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Still did not explain why they had no clue the infinity war stuff was going on... it was a world thing it was huge big ass ship in NY even if they in cali they would have heard about it
Yes, I laughed at the seagull scene. However now I feel ashamed. #AntRights Anyway had a good time at this movie, although the anxiety at the long wait for Infinity War (2) has returned to my brain.
The line that Scott should have used when they kept sticking "quantum" in front of everything: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
I hadn't thought about the plumbing/electricity issues, but as a Structural Engineer I was having some real questions about the foundations of these buildings. They never set the buildings up on anything that was remotely made to support that kind of weight. The lab should have left some large craters, and they literally built a house on sand at the end, which has no chance of lasting. Also, did they have everything in the lab anchored down? Because that thing got tossed around all over the place, and it seems like it should have been a huge mess when they got back inside.
Also why didnt the building, and house, not crumble, twist, and brake apart due to all the lifting, tossing, and what have you. A building's strength is compression strength with some rigidity. They are built to sit in one place. You would thank that the walls would distort and brake apart when being lifted.
Dirus Nigh I think they assumed that a real house, when shrunk, acts like a doll house. And their beach house annoyed me like what about the electricity or the plumbing or whatever?
Dirus Nigh I was going to give them the benefit of the doubt on that one and say they designed it to be really strong and flexible in order to deal with the rapid shrinking and expansion, even though in reality you are totally right. Everything that deals with the world around the building was just where I decided to draw the line.
SAME! I'm a civil engineer and that was my first thought (especially when Hank puts the house near the beach). Maybe they're expecting that moving the lab constantly won't cause soil to settle significantly while they're working, but they could lose significant structural integrity if they're in an area prone to sinkholes. And did they install some sort of internal gravity to keep things from moving around? Imagine the damage to the Quantum Tunnel if all that lab equipment started tossing about.
Thought it was better than the first one in every way!! Comedy worked better, better chemistry, and more inventive action. The fact that there was no clear cut villain, just antagonists, was refreshing.
I have an answer for the buildings power needs! In the lab, in the background, you can see giant Duracell batteries in the background that he supersized. Not sure the science of that, but there's your answer!
Ant Man is exactly what the MCU needed to follow up Infinity War, because this is the only franchise that could not take itself too seriously and still have a lot of heart. This movie was light and fun and a much needed breath of fresh air before we plunge back into all the heavy stakes of Infinity War. I don't know how they do it, but even though they're never perfect, Marvel can't seem to do anything wrong.
What I like about Marvel is that whenever I watch movies, dozes of questions will run through my head nitpicking the story as I watch. And Marvel will usually answer the major ones, right in the following scenes. This is so rarely done nowadays, by any movie, most hoping you wouldn't notice or care. Resulting in some cases, gaping holes in logic. Like for this movie, as they're driving away from Ghost, my mind zeroed in on Ghost using her abilities to hijack a vehicle to give chase - ala The Matrix Revolutions - and why hasn't she done so. It was already pretty far into the chase. And lo and behold, she does so like a minute after that. The typical fare of movies I've seen lately, would've abandoned Ghost as the primary antagonist for that chase, and focused on Birch. And have Ghost ambush them later, *but* it would've left the gap in logic of why Ghost isn't using her abilities. That being said, in their initial encounter after having been told to get away, Hope for some reason chooses to duke it out with Ghost instead of shrinking along with the stuff and getting away. Well, they're not perfect.
This is such a bullshit reason to praise a film. It being lighter then IW (which was plenty light literally most of the time except the cliffhanger ending) should not be counted as some actual positive because it has no actual bearing on the film itself. People act like IW was this pitch black descent into darkness when in reality, it was the standard MCU tone with a downer ending. In 10 years, will people be like "Oh, when this came out it was lighter than IW so it's soooo good!" There's no logic in that whatsoever. Marvel fanboys can find any way to excuse or any MCU film from legit criticism. This film is easily one of the most lazy of the entire franchise.
Tyler E - I should clarify what I mean by light, because Infinity War was definitely light in most respects, but not when it comes to stakes or characters - the stakes of Infinity War were incredibly heavy and it included a ton of characters who we are already invested in, which meant that the film had a much more serious and weighty feeling even while it was able to remain a fun comic book movie. Ant Man didn't have the weight of high stakes and only had a handful of characters that were invested in, which changed the tone and allowed it to be a much simpler escapist adventure that exists in the same universe, but doesn't get weighed down by lots of characters and the feeling of impending doom. The reason I think that is important and is a testament to Marvel's movie making abilities is because the ability to change tones and styles between their movies is what keeps this universe fun and interesting - if every Marvel movie felt the same, they would stop being fun to go to and we would get tired of revisiting the universe over and over again, but by creating films with a variety of styles and tones they continue to keep their appeal fresh. Granted there are a lot of common threads in tone and style, but those commonalities are what holds it together and allows these films to build on one another in a shared universe, it's the fact that films like Ant Man can retain their own unique identity and style that I love. I'm not saying you have to like a film that has a lighter tone, but I appreciated and enjoyed it as a fun change of pace as we continue to move forward in this universe. And to be fair, I think you're probably right about this being the laziest film in the franchise, but that's why I think it shows Marvel can't make a mistake - it somehow managed to be a pretty good movie that was a lot of fun in spite of the fact that it seems lazy. I think that perceived laziness actually helps to create the casual tone that is one of the things that I really enjoyed about this movie.
I'm starting to notice this trend ("Solo" and this film make two and that constitutes a trend, right?) in movie criticism all over the Internet in which terms like "fun" and "entertaining" have become derogatory terms. The look on Dan's face when he says this movie was "fun" speaks volumes, as though movies that are just "fun" aren't worth your time or money. And that makes me sad. Don't get me wrong. I love very serious and very artistic films. Stanley Kubrick is one of my top favorite directors. But there shouldn't be anything wrong with movies being "fun".
To be honest I feel like certain RUclips movie critics, including but not limited to Dan, have developed a pretty reductive and entitled attitude when it comes to modern blockbuster cinema. I understand that Dan is probably forced to review this kind of fare as part of his role at SJU, and I understand that certain films as of late have been particularly divisive, but at this point I would rather they had someone on who could at least pretend to give a shit. I don't need shill fanboys to oversell everything, but I am sick fed up of Dans "I would rather be anywhere else, holier-than-thou" attitude regarding certain franchises. It's really taking the wind out of the sails of a lot of videos, and if Dan is unhappy perhaps he could let someone else step in to cover this stuff so he can focus on his box office reporting (he still seems to enjoy discussing the business side of Hollywood)
EwanMakeMovies I don't agree with everything you wrote there. I don't think Dan has a "holier-than-thou" attitude at all. I really don't think that's fair to Dan. I do agree that he sometimes comes across as though he'd prefer to be talking about different movies at least. I'm not sure I can blame him there.
we are in an age where we have seen greatness in movies, so yes just fun and entertaining aren't enough cause the real reason is there are ton of those already, if you want your movie to stand out it needs to have actual substance and depth too and not just cheap laughs
Dan has been specifically using this term for years now and using it in a derogatory way. It bothers me also. I get this movie and others are lighter than the oscar heavy things and deeper themes but they still have substance and in that way i feel like Dan can carelessly sweep it under the "fun" category. It's annoyning and it's something that i think creates a dis connect between audience and critics like him.
@ 14:30 they start talking about Hanks lab and questioning how it's powered. I've seen Ant-Man & The Wasp a few times now and I've noticed a giant duracel battery 🔋attached to a bunch of cable's in Hanks lab. This seems to imply that Hank has found a way to expand nd shrink energy itself. So he managed to power his entire building, his whole lab... With a single battery. I kno it's science fiction but damn that's cool. Could you imagine what the geniuses of the MCU could accomplish if they all worked together?
15:24 - Roth and Dan your witty quip about Hank and Tony being "villains" had me laughing in stitches! It reminded me of Eobard Thawne's retort to Barry on the CW's Flash, "Who's the villain NOW, Flash?" But seriously when you stop and think about it? Tony's actions in the MCU? And also considering some of his arcs in the comics? Plus, the fact that Hank actually DID make Ultron in the comics? Yeah, those aren't exactly the actions of superheroes, and really more like supervillains, eh? Brilliant review! I quite enjoyed the numerous cogent and trenchant points you raised! Will you be doing a video about your theories as to the future direction of the overall MCU story thus far? What would you like to see in future films? How would you integrate the X-Men and Fantastic Four into the MCU? How cool would it be to see Doctor Doom be a recurring character in the MCU? Cannot wait for more! Same Bat-Time? Same Bat-Channel? Rock on!
Is there a beauty salon in the time vortex? Pfiefer's charecter emerges after being trapped for 30 or 40 years wearing makeup lipstick eyebrows penciled hair coiffed all to perfection
The main thing I didn’t like was that all the action scenes were in the trailers. I kept waiting to see something new and special and that didn’t come.
I thought you guys knew about the set photos from Avengers 4 that show the battle of New York from the first Avengers? Time travel is definitely a part of Avengers 4 and Scott might be the key to them going back and forth. I really loved this movie, I thought it was fun and refreshing after infinity war, and the post credits scene was perfect. Not my favorite marvel movie by far, but still, I thought people were a little too harsh on this one. Definitely excited for more Paul Rudd in Avengers 4.
Here's my MMQ of the writing: rather than separate story threads, make Goggin's character be more central with Ghost working as a contractor for him so she has access to black market quantum tech that might help her. Have her double-cross him to steal the device she acquired for Hope, leading to both groups searching for her and Goliath - Goggins for revenge and the tech, the Pyms for the tech itself. That makes Goggins the bad guy, with the quantum teams being good but desperate people trying to save loved ones. Scott helps them realize they can help each other, reuniting Goliath and Hank, and in act three Goggins shows up and takes everything, leading to both groups teaming up to get the lab back. Also needed: at a crucial moment, they get help from a rogue Avenger, so a cameo from Cap, Widow, somebody. The scene helps validate Scott's betrayal of the Pyms by showing that he now has access to other heroes, and you can add a throw-away line where whoever it is says they' get called to help Cap in Ireland (where Vision and Wanda were attacked), giving us a better tie-in to Infinity War's timeline and adding impact to the post-credits scene.
I find it interesting that the post credits scene was the only impact on the whole movie. What's even more amazing is how will Scott get out of the quantum realm.
Janet teased about Time Vortexes, could be just another Marvel red herring. But I feel like it's not a coincidence that Captain Marvel in set in the 90s, and both of them are important in Avengers 4.
As for getting himself out of the quantum realm - in the first movie, he got himself out by putting the growth disc in the size regulator. Pym has a line in this film about how he did away with the regulator in the new generation suit(which Scott was wearing at the end); which is why they needed to find the old one todo the tracking.
I totally agree with you about the implications of the buildings moving locations and changing sizes so easily. I'm a civil engineer and my first thoughts when they kept throwing the lab building into different locations were "What about a proper foundation?" and "Where are they getting power for this lab?" If they really are running a quantum tunnel, their energy needs would be staggering and need a stable source in order to run the computers alone, let alone the turbines that they show. If they had the time to explain how all the quantum realm stuff "works" (I still have questions, but that's not the point), then they could have spared a sentence for the lab. Overall, it was still a fun movie and a nice respite from Infinity War, but won't place in my top 5 of the MCU.
The thing with Ant-man and the growth discs is, while it worked before, he didn't remember doing it or how he escaped the first time. So they may have never figured out that was possible. And if he does have some on him, it may not even occur to him to try it this time (especially before his mind gets lost). You know, I really think that second post-credit scene would have been way better if the ant got ashed/snapped. At the very least it would've taken the snap questions and theories up a notch lol.
I really enjoyed ghost she was an interesting and complex character I really want to get to see more of her nothing like the comic version she could be more an Anti-Hero than a villain
In the comic books Hank Pym and Tony Stark have been even more morally gray than the MCU has ever shown. They have also both been storyline villains on occasion.
One difference between a movie that is “fun, pretty good” and a movie that is “awesome, amazing, great” is wether you leave the theater desperate to see it again. I left infinity like “OMG that was awesome, I need to see it again”. I left AM&W like “that was a pretty good, glad I had fun, I’m probably not gonna see it again”. Same thing for Solo btw.
Given this was coming out after Infinity War they were probably told not to connect in any big way to future films besides the post-credits scene. Also, I kept seeing I didn't have to stay for the second P-C scene, but I was so glad I did I just like the thought that Thanos kept the giant ants like he saw them with one of the stones and was like "yes I must keep those giant creatures in the universe" that's my theory anyway and I am sticking to it.
I thought that Janet meant that the location she is in will only stay where it is for the next 2 hours, and it won't align to that spot for another 1000 years. Plus, it's likely she can't take over Scott again, so this is their only real chance to get her.
I was hoping Janet Van Dyne will somehow be important in Avengers 4 bec of her exposure to the Quantum realm and Energy indicating that she is connected to Captain Marvel
I hoped for that as well. Her experiences in the micro verse and how it changed her is worth exploring. Also I just want to see her as the Wasp in a movie.
This was the only MCU film that I’ve actually disliked. There are a lot of them that I think are just mediocre, but this was the first one that I’ve felt was just bad.
This film is, to put it simply, utterly pointless. It doesn't have to be some universe altering story...but the story we got was just...stagnant. Nothing really happened. Nothing was at stake. Nothing felt dangerous or tangible. It's just about meme generator like Ragnarok. It's a 2 hour excuse for the post credit scene, and it's one of the most cynical films I've seen, well, since Ragnarok.
I can’t believe you got into how the shrinking house works. This is a deliriously fun and frothy film, which is what it sets out it to be, it’s not supposed to be taken seriously! I loved it. So much fun.
Janet didn't say "time vortex", she said "tardigrade" which was what Hank saw when he was shrinking and tried to harm him. Basically its a microorganism which is famed to be practically indestructible
I wonder if the client/clients that goggins character was working for that wouldn’t take no for an answer was setting up someone or something big. Like dr. Doom or the hellfire club
I think what would make up for the multiple storylines is if you see Burch again. He kept saying The Boss. Like he had a person above him. So if they came back to that again in tbe next movie then it wouldn't feel as wasted. So its like the movie introduced wasp, ghost and this underground bad guys.
I did not enjoy this movie as much as the first, and overall, it was one of my least favorite from the MCU. Not to crap on it too much and ruin it, there was a lot of clunky dialogue and plot points, specifically that scene in the school with Ant-Man being the size of a child and that dubstep music playing. That was cringe worthy in my opinion. Also, why are there brand new cars turned over, burning in an alley? It was the scene towards the end when they were hiding. Definitely did not like the fact that there was zero consequence in any of it, save for the mid-credits scene, which is almost a cop-out in my eyes. And that car that Luis drove...that was heavily cringe-worthy to me as well. I'll say, these are my opinions, and I can be pretty critical. It was a fun movie, and maybe the point was to highlight the heroes and be a completely feel-good movie. Felt like this movie was the one that was most geared towards little kids of all of the MCU movies, which is dope for them.
Just watched it tonight since I was at AX when it dropped and then came home incredibly sick and couldn't see it last Tuesday when my mom bought us tickets to see it. I went into this movie expecting nothing as usual, for Ant-Man anyway, but with all my love for Paul Rudd. In that respect I loved it, laughed, had a good time, and tried my best not to over think all the things that were annoying me. But then the post credit scene happened and I got angry. He's stuck in the quantum realm! And no one knows he's in there! How's he getting out in ANY movie before Avengers IW part 2/Avengers 4?! I was really, really hoping Ant-Man would be in the next Avengers because I love him as a character and I love Paul as an actor, but that just destroyed any hopes I had. Then I got out of the film and began to fully process it and I feel the same in regards to there being too much going on. Ghost wasn't even a bad guy, she wasn't a villain, she was a victim of someone elses mistake and just wanted to stop hurting and save her own life, and just by perfect luck Janet came back and fixed her right up. This little side story is the only reason Scott even ended up in the quantum realm to remove him from the only story he could even be a part of next, which looking at the line-up is literally only the next Avengers. So unless they informed someone like Tony or Steve that hey, Scott's stuck in the quantum realm. I don't see how he's getting out unless he just does it himself at some point in which case there's even LESS reason he was left there at the end of this movie! These were all the things happening in this movie: Scott staying under house arrest so he's constantly trying to outrun the FBI, saving Janet, avoiding/fighting/saving Ghost/Eva, taking back the Lab over and over again, Scott and Hope's once again underdeveloped love dynamic that's rewarded with yet another kiss right at the end, avoiding/fighting/chasing Burch and his goons, and lastly all the stuff with Luis and his company. It just seemed like way too much and a good half of that could have been removed for a more concise story and maybe in place included more character interactions to better develop their dynamics and overall characters. Still enjoyed it a lot, but just 'cause I liked it doesn't mean it didn't have flaws worth addressing in hopes if we DO one day get a 3rd one maybe they clean it up a bit more.
Odds on Ant Man showing up at the end or in the post credits scene of Captain Marvel having gone through the time vortex to get her? (That would also be an explanation as to why she hasn't been around this whole time)
Here's the thing: we NEEDED this nice little break after the devastation of Infinity War. And it was a fun movie with lovable characters and the World's Greatest Grandma!
Have yall never heard of a water tank before? He could pop one out of a briefcase in two seconds. The house I grew up in never had water main connections. I think the main problem is waste water. Septic tanks are gross.
"You should be saving the world wirh magic water!" I love Roth! As for Hank being the true villain, that's not so much of a stretch. He keeps screwing people up and leaving them behind!
For me the ending had me the most interested (post credit scene). It was the only time I really cared to know what happens next. I wish this movie was more about the microverse Janet was in. The action scenes were great though, and I liked wasp, and Michael Pena narrating the story of how they met was EVERYTHING!!! 😂
I can't tell if it was on purpose but you guys dropped some of thy sickest puns ever in the episode. "I /hope/ to see more of Janet." "The ants were dropping like /flies/." "/Smaller/ stakes." "The /larger/ universe."
Another commentor said something that is close to my thought. What was fun about this movie, and Brilliant by Marvel/Disney is that this movie was fun, could stand on its own, yet is a part of a thread where we don't know where it's going. Nothing, until the mid credit scene was seemingly important to the greater MCU. So, the pay off that the Russo brothers were going for, making the audience wonder what is going to happen and feeling sort of gut punched, is still there. This just let us laugh for a while, then remember the gut punch. At the end of this, we still have no idea how Avengers 4 or even Captain Marvel is going to play out. Not a clue. I think the Russo's are enjoying that.
I really enjoyed the film. I do agree with Dan & Roth that the parts(characters) were great, but the entire story line could have been better. Its 1 of those things that if this was a TV series we'd get those things fleshed out but because its a 2 hour film you can't quite do all of that. After watching the film & what's to come in Captain Marvel & AVENGERS 4 I think this is setting up aside from Dr. Doom & Galactus, The Beyonder, Sin, Kang the Conqueror, Annhilus, Count Nefaria, Amora The Enchantress, Taskmaster, & Morgan Le Fay as villains for the MCU in phase 4 and beyond.
Zias B Lou I agree the story is very basic but I LOVED GHOST, its complex and there is a discussion to have about why she is doing this (this is the quick version) she is doing it because she just doesn't want to hurt anymore she's been hurting since her father died and she didn't want that anymore. Laurence Fishburne is also complex but it's simple he thought Ghost as a daughter and didn't want to see her hurt. Hope was awesome and I could have a solo movie of just her. I would love to see Cassie as Scott's partner one day. Janet was interesting would like to see more of her and Hank, I also imagine if they do a third they would be back. Walton Goggjns is amazing actor and I hate that he has been "that bad guy" in the last 2 movies he'd done. Paul Rudd man, that's nuff said I think, but seriously he's so funny. Luis talking scene in this one is amazing. I'm just going on and now so I'm going to stop but I liked it.
I was hoping the "people disappearing because of Thanos" post credit scene in Ant-man would be shot like it was in Infinity War. Starting with Scott's daughter & cutting to his ex wife & her husband, then it goes to Bill. & then Hank while he's with Janet, Scott & Hope. & then Janet goes, Hope & Scott start freaking out. Then Hope disappears as Scott is trying to calm her down. Fade to black.
So y'all just going to ignore the fact that a woman survived for 30 years with no food, water or oxygen in the quantum zone or whatever, and yet came out of it looking incredible, dazzling with a shiny new sword lance thing. IF THEY'RE THE SIZE OF ELEMENTAL PARTICLES THEN WHAT ARE THEY MADE OF
i was expecting more balls with the snap something like: scotts at the park and he sees people disappear in the distance, looks around and more people dusting until finally he looks at cassie as she turns. the pyms didnt do it for me lol
That would be so depressing and jarring considering the tone of the film in front of it. The reason I think they didn't do that is that they've cast a teenage actor to play Cassie in Avengers 4.
A fare assessment. I feel it fell short of the first one and could have added more Momma Pym and less megufen shuttling. Very interested in the whole time travel discussion. Scene it in multiple reviews.
For all the people saying "what did Janet eat and how did she poop in the quantum realm?" if we're to go on the movie rules established, since going big drains your energy extra quick going sub-atomic would stretch out your longevity almost indefinitely without having to eat or drink. Antman is not scientific though so stop trying to look at it that way.
MCU chronological watch order 1. Captain America The First Avenger 2. Iron Man 3. Iron Man 2 4. The Incredible Hulk 5. Thor 6. The Avengers 7. Iron Man 3 8. Thor The Dark World 9. Guardians of the Galaxy 10. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 11. Captain America The Winter Soldier 12. Avengers Age of Ultron 13. Ant-Man 14. Captain America Civil War 15. Black Panther 16. Spider-Man Homecoming 17. Doctor Strange 18. Ant-Man & The Wasp 19. Thor Ragnarok 20. Avengers Infinity War
I just keep saying it’s another episode in a (TV) series. It’s a filler episode. Setting you up for the season finale (Avengers IW: Part 2.) I’m POSITIVE all the characters who were “snapped away” are in the Quantum Realm. I missed the “time vortex” part. Interesting... Yah. I thought the mom would have gone evil or something while in the Quantum Realm. But at the same time, we haven’t seen much of her yet, so who knows. Suspend reality, Dan. Suspend reality.
Putting quantum in front of everything is an age old sci-fi method of making things sound 50% more scientific. You should see how often Star Trek does it, quantum fissure, quantum incursion, quantum flux, quantum inverter, quantum implosion, quantum stasis.
I enjoyed Ant Man and The Wasp. Even if I had to give the logical part of my brain a beer and tell it to chill out. I am really disappointing that Marvel dusted Hank and Jan Pym. Marvel missed an amazing opportunity to have Mechil Phypher and Micheal Douglas playing Ant Man and Wasp in Infinity war Part 2 or a 3rd And Man and the Wasp movie. If Liam Neeson can have an old man action series with Taken, then Marvel can make one movie with these two kicking ass. Seriously though Marvel brakes it's own rules with shrinking objects. They state that shrunken objects keep their mass yet have the characters pick up a shrunken building as if it's luggage. Also how does that building have power and water if you rip it from it's original foundation and utility hook ups? Wouldn't every thing in that building get destroyed by literally falling all over the place and crashing into things? I know have a beer, a hot dog, and chill. It was a silly fun movie. However the preposterous leaps of "logic" on how to fix Ghost's problem is a little to much to ignore. Also how did Jan survive in the micro verse? How did she eat, breath, and shelter herself for 30 years? Damn I cant turn it off.
Dirus Nigh Mass is different from weight. I assume they lose their weight as they shrink but retain their mass in a more compact way. The buildings shrinking make no sense but eh we can assume that they’re bolted down. Hank is smart so I guess he made sure to make their lab self sustaining and bolted down. It’s a big assumption but oh well.
You're watching the wrong movie if you want to scrutinise the rules that closely. The entire concept of Antman is infeasible at the lowest to highest levels so you just need to let a lot slide and have fun with the silliness.
Theme: There are three sets of fathers and daughters represented in this film, all of them at least ATTEMPTING nurturing relationships. Compare to Infinity War which features an incredibly abusive father/daughter relationship.
I think a lot of this comes down to what you want from a Marvel Movie, if you came into this hoping for something like Black Panther or Winter Soldier you might be disappointed. I came in hoping for a light, Paul Rudd, action comedy and I loved it.
Also I don't really understand complaining about the science in an MCU movie, in a universe with Space Vikings and Infinity Stones we are getting hung up on quantum plumbing? Anyway, I had a smile on my face from the Marvel Logo to the end credits so I was happy. I hope you enjoyed it too, if not I hope you enjoy the next film you see more! :)
Spoilers don't matter to me because i still haven't actually seen it. I'm not going to visualize it the same and i won't remember it while I'm watching.
To be fair, we don't know that the ants are slaves. Maybe they're paid in food. Maybe they have a union. Maybe they just want to be gigantic so they don't get eaten by spiders all the time.
Still did not explain why they had no clue the infinity war stuff was going on... it was a world thing it was huge big ass ship in NY even if they in cali they would have heard about it
SPOILERS I've been told by people that know whats happening in Avengers 4 that the snap conflict is resolved at the beginning of the 3rd. And that we will see everyone that we will see every hero in the MCU in one scene together. And they also said that Thanos is defeated by what resolved the snap so I guess we'll see.
I found the movie really bland. The movie Dan explained that he didn't want.. actually sounds pretty good. The quantum realm isn't meant for anyone to be stuck there for 20 without going mad. I would have liked if Janet Van Dine came back a little "different"
Ant Man got out of the quantum realm before, however this one he’s in a quantum tunnel and what if he doesn’t wanna grow big and break it and cause a big explosion or something that can go horribly wrong like that. Idk, lame excuse, but he probably just doesn’t have a growy disc.
Is it just me or the wife reunion scene is pretty much lifted from HTTYD2, complete with the mom surviving in the wild somehow gaining knowledge and powers?
I really loved this film! Antman and The Wasp >>> Black Panther. And Ghost is incredible. It is funny for me that everybody “got” Killmonger but think that Ghost fell flat. She was a great antagonist. This is one of the greatest Marvels for me! A great superhero film first, with lots of unique and exciting action set-pieces. It is a comedy second and a great one, but it is an awesome superhero film. Wasp kicks ass!
The main problem with this movie is Janet Van Dyne has been training as the Wasp for a long time,goes to Quantum Realm and gets stuck for long time. Scott Lang learns about this stuff over a weekend and goes into Quantum Realm and finds a way to come back instantly. Why have Janet Van Dyne incompetent just to make your main character look great and can do anything with no little experience?
jon williams you do know how Scott got out using his enlarging disc right ? If Janet didn’t have any then she couldn’t get out like Scott did . Scott was just lucky
Matthew Heywood He uses the enlarging disc because the script needed him to get out the quantum zone and impress the other characters. By you saying Scott was lucky proves my point. Right ,the hero of the movie can do anything.
jon williams is this the first comic book movie or comic book you have ever seen or read? It is a quite common occurrence in them hate to break the news to you
I wouldn't reccomend this for the comedy. Some of its good some of it was super flat for me. I liked the relationships between Scott and Cassie, Hank and Hope and Janet, and Hope and Scott. That's what's best in this movie. The rest is just kinda fine.
Hey guy's love the shows (my viewing history shows it) but I can't help but think that these spoiler reviews are a little unneeded so what do I mean, well I get that a place to talk about the movie you just saw is the spoiler review you get to say how the specific plot details affected you and how that colours your critical opinion.... But should we not call it that thete isn't a need for spoilers for an opinion but taking about the movie conveying how it made you feel and how it influences you that could be a great panel show on its own..... Just one man's opinion. Love your stuff
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Still did not explain why they had no clue the infinity war stuff was going on... it was a world thing it was huge big ass ship in NY even if they in cali they would have heard about it
Yes, I laughed at the seagull scene. However now I feel ashamed. #AntRights
Anyway had a good time at this movie, although the anxiety at the long wait for Infinity War (2) has returned to my brain.
#JusticeForANTonioBanderas
The answer to Dan's questions about energy and plumbing in the building: quantum energy and quantum plumbing
The line that Scott should have used when they kept sticking "quantum" in front of everything:
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
I saw an enlarged Duracell battery in the building. Probably takes care of the energy needs.
I hadn't thought about the plumbing/electricity issues, but as a Structural Engineer I was having some real questions about the foundations of these buildings. They never set the buildings up on anything that was remotely made to support that kind of weight. The lab should have left some large craters, and they literally built a house on sand at the end, which has no chance of lasting. Also, did they have everything in the lab anchored down? Because that thing got tossed around all over the place, and it seems like it should have been a huge mess when they got back inside.
Also why didnt the building, and house, not crumble, twist, and brake apart due to all the lifting, tossing, and what have you. A building's strength is compression strength with some rigidity. They are built to sit in one place. You would thank that the walls would distort and brake apart when being lifted.
Dirus Nigh I think they assumed that a real house, when shrunk, acts like a doll house. And their beach house annoyed me like what about the electricity or the plumbing or whatever?
Dirus Nigh I was going to give them the benefit of the doubt on that one and say they designed it to be really strong and flexible in order to deal with the rapid shrinking and expansion, even though in reality you are totally right. Everything that deals with the world around the building was just where I decided to draw the line.
That part where Ghost uses the building to smash through a car window... That can't be good for the structural integrity.
SAME! I'm a civil engineer and that was my first thought (especially when Hank puts the house near the beach). Maybe they're expecting that moving the lab constantly won't cause soil to settle significantly while they're working, but they could lose significant structural integrity if they're in an area prone to sinkholes. And did they install some sort of internal gravity to keep things from moving around? Imagine the damage to the Quantum Tunnel if all that lab equipment started tossing about.
Thought it was better than the first one in every way!! Comedy worked better, better chemistry, and more inventive action. The fact that there was no clear cut villain, just antagonists, was refreshing.
I agree, this was a gi-ANT improvement in every way possible!
Travis Spazz Precisely.
I really liked that there was no true villain as well it gave the movie time to really focus on the main characters and develop them more.
nah
Yes!
I have an answer for the buildings power needs! In the lab, in the background, you can see giant Duracell batteries in the background that he supersized. Not sure the science of that, but there's your answer!
Ol_Crustacean I caught that too.
And the Lego plates?
I missed that. Now how did the pluming still work?
Yes! I was just about to comment that.
Dirus Nigh expand the water, shrink the poop!
Ant Man is exactly what the MCU needed to follow up Infinity War, because this is the only franchise that could not take itself too seriously and still have a lot of heart. This movie was light and fun and a much needed breath of fresh air before we plunge back into all the heavy stakes of Infinity War. I don't know how they do it, but even though they're never perfect, Marvel can't seem to do anything wrong.
Agreed.
True
What I like about Marvel is that whenever I watch movies, dozes of questions will run through my head nitpicking the story as I watch. And Marvel will usually answer the major ones, right in the following scenes. This is so rarely done nowadays, by any movie, most hoping you wouldn't notice or care. Resulting in some cases, gaping holes in logic. Like for this movie, as they're driving away from Ghost, my mind zeroed in on Ghost using her abilities to hijack a vehicle to give chase - ala The Matrix Revolutions - and why hasn't she done so. It was already pretty far into the chase. And lo and behold, she does so like a minute after that.
The typical fare of movies I've seen lately, would've abandoned Ghost as the primary antagonist for that chase, and focused on Birch. And have Ghost ambush them later, *but* it would've left the gap in logic of why Ghost isn't using her abilities. That being said, in their initial encounter after having been told to get away, Hope for some reason chooses to duke it out with Ghost instead of shrinking along with the stuff and getting away.
Well, they're not perfect.
This is such a bullshit reason to praise a film. It being lighter then IW (which was plenty light literally most of the time except the cliffhanger ending) should not be counted as some actual positive because it has no actual bearing on the film itself. People act like IW was this pitch black descent into darkness when in reality, it was the standard MCU tone with a downer ending.
In 10 years, will people be like "Oh, when this came out it was lighter than IW so it's soooo good!" There's no logic in that whatsoever.
Marvel fanboys can find any way to excuse or any MCU film from legit criticism.
This film is easily one of the most lazy of the entire franchise.
Tyler E - I should clarify what I mean by light, because Infinity War was definitely light in most respects, but not when it comes to stakes or characters - the stakes of Infinity War were incredibly heavy and it included a ton of characters who we are already invested in, which meant that the film had a much more serious and weighty feeling even while it was able to remain a fun comic book movie. Ant Man didn't have the weight of high stakes and only had a handful of characters that were invested in, which changed the tone and allowed it to be a much simpler escapist adventure that exists in the same universe, but doesn't get weighed down by lots of characters and the feeling of impending doom.
The reason I think that is important and is a testament to Marvel's movie making abilities is because the ability to change tones and styles between their movies is what keeps this universe fun and interesting - if every Marvel movie felt the same, they would stop being fun to go to and we would get tired of revisiting the universe over and over again, but by creating films with a variety of styles and tones they continue to keep their appeal fresh. Granted there are a lot of common threads in tone and style, but those commonalities are what holds it together and allows these films to build on one another in a shared universe, it's the fact that films like Ant Man can retain their own unique identity and style that I love.
I'm not saying you have to like a film that has a lighter tone, but I appreciated and enjoyed it as a fun change of pace as we continue to move forward in this universe.
And to be fair, I think you're probably right about this being the laziest film in the franchise, but that's why I think it shows Marvel can't make a mistake - it somehow managed to be a pretty good movie that was a lot of fun in spite of the fact that it seems lazy. I think that perceived laziness actually helps to create the casual tone that is one of the things that I really enjoyed about this movie.
"If you're one of those weirdos that don't care about spoilers - no judgement..."
I'm starting to notice this trend ("Solo" and this film make two and that constitutes a trend, right?) in movie criticism all over the Internet in which terms like "fun" and "entertaining" have become derogatory terms. The look on Dan's face when he says this movie was "fun" speaks volumes, as though movies that are just "fun" aren't worth your time or money. And that makes me sad. Don't get me wrong. I love very serious and very artistic films. Stanley Kubrick is one of my top favorite directors. But there shouldn't be anything wrong with movies being "fun".
To be honest I feel like certain RUclips movie critics, including but not limited to Dan, have developed a pretty reductive and entitled attitude when it comes to modern blockbuster cinema. I understand that Dan is probably forced to review this kind of fare as part of his role at SJU, and I understand that certain films as of late have been particularly divisive, but at this point I would rather they had someone on who could at least pretend to give a shit.
I don't need shill fanboys to oversell everything, but I am sick fed up of Dans "I would rather be anywhere else, holier-than-thou" attitude regarding certain franchises.
It's really taking the wind out of the sails of a lot of videos, and if Dan is unhappy perhaps he could let someone else step in to cover this stuff so he can focus on his box office reporting (he still seems to enjoy discussing the business side of Hollywood)
EwanMakeMovies I don't agree with everything you wrote there. I don't think Dan has a "holier-than-thou" attitude at all. I really don't think that's fair to Dan. I do agree that he sometimes comes across as though he'd prefer to be talking about different movies at least. I'm not sure I can blame him there.
we are in an age where we have seen greatness in movies, so yes just fun and entertaining aren't enough cause the real reason is there are ton of those already, if you want your movie to stand out it needs to have actual substance and depth too and not just cheap laughs
DarthEd77 I agree with you, like AatW is not perfect in any sense, but it made me very happy
Dan has been specifically using this term for years now and using it in a derogatory way. It bothers me also. I get this movie and others are lighter than the oscar heavy things and deeper themes but they still have substance and in that way i feel like Dan can carelessly sweep it under the "fun" category. It's annoyning and it's something that i think creates a dis connect between audience and critics like him.
I caught those huge AA batteries in the background of Pym's lab...I figured he used those as a power source
my question about the movie is; what makeup brand did janet use? didn't fade in 30 years!
Quantum makeup.
@ 14:30 they start talking about Hanks lab and questioning
how it's powered. I've seen Ant-Man & The Wasp a few times now and I've noticed a giant duracel battery 🔋attached to a bunch of cable's in Hanks lab.
This seems to imply that Hank has found a way to expand nd shrink energy itself. So he managed to power his entire building, his whole lab... With a single battery. I kno it's science fiction but damn that's cool.
Could you imagine what the geniuses of the MCU could accomplish if they all worked together?
Just use quantum in front of any word. 😂😂😂
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Quantumceivable!
15:24 - Roth and Dan your witty quip about Hank and Tony being "villains" had me laughing in stitches! It reminded me of Eobard Thawne's retort to Barry on the CW's Flash, "Who's the villain NOW, Flash?"
But seriously when you stop and think about it? Tony's actions in the MCU? And also considering some of his arcs in the comics? Plus, the fact that Hank actually DID make Ultron in the comics?
Yeah, those aren't exactly the actions of superheroes, and really more like supervillains, eh?
Brilliant review! I quite enjoyed the numerous cogent and trenchant points you raised! Will you be doing a video about your theories as to the future direction of the overall MCU story thus far?
What would you like to see in future films? How would you integrate the X-Men and Fantastic Four into the MCU?
How cool would it be to see Doctor Doom be a recurring character in the MCU?
Cannot wait for more!
Same Bat-Time?
Same Bat-Channel?
Rock on!
Is there a beauty salon in the time vortex? Pfiefer's charecter emerges after being trapped for 30 or 40 years wearing makeup lipstick eyebrows penciled hair coiffed all to perfection
Loved the movie, it was very funny, Paul Rudd was amazing. Thor Ragnarok and AntMan and The Wasp are my favourite comedies from the MCU
The main thing I didn’t like was that all the action scenes were in the trailers. I kept waiting to see something new and special and that didn’t come.
I thought you guys knew about the set photos from Avengers 4 that show the battle of New York from the first Avengers? Time travel is definitely a part of Avengers 4 and Scott might be the key to them going back and forth.
I really loved this movie, I thought it was fun and refreshing after infinity war, and the post credits scene was perfect. Not my favorite marvel movie by far, but still, I thought people were a little too harsh on this one. Definitely excited for more Paul Rudd in Avengers 4.
Here's my MMQ of the writing: rather than separate story threads, make Goggin's character be more central with Ghost working as a contractor for him so she has access to black market quantum tech that might help her. Have her double-cross him to steal the device she acquired for Hope, leading to both groups searching for her and Goliath - Goggins for revenge and the tech, the Pyms for the tech itself. That makes Goggins the bad guy, with the quantum teams being good but desperate people trying to save loved ones. Scott helps them realize they can help each other, reuniting Goliath and Hank, and in act three Goggins shows up and takes everything, leading to both groups teaming up to get the lab back.
Also needed: at a crucial moment, they get help from a rogue Avenger, so a cameo from Cap, Widow, somebody. The scene helps validate Scott's betrayal of the Pyms by showing that he now has access to other heroes, and you can add a throw-away line where whoever it is says they' get called to help Cap in Ireland (where Vision and Wanda were attacked), giving us a better tie-in to Infinity War's timeline and adding impact to the post-credits scene.
As much as I love Dan and Roth I wish Spoiler Reviews consisted of 4 people I think it further conversations great vid still tho
I find it interesting that the post credits scene was the only impact on the whole movie. What's even more amazing is how will Scott get out of the quantum realm.
We saw how he got out of the quantum realm in the first movie.
Kevin E. No way he's going to get out the same way. Guessing the movie will set him up with no enlarging discs
What if Scott was spared by the snap because he was in the Quantum realm?
He was told not to go into the worm holes, maybe he goes into one and discovers time travel 😩😩👏
Janet teased about Time Vortexes, could be just another Marvel red herring. But I feel like it's not a coincidence that Captain Marvel in set in the 90s, and both of them are important in Avengers 4.
As for getting himself out of the quantum realm - in the first movie, he got himself out by putting the growth disc in the size regulator. Pym has a line in this film about how he did away with the regulator in the new generation suit(which Scott was wearing at the end); which is why they needed to find the old one todo the tracking.
My favorite part is when Scott & Hope are on a date. Watching THEM! Which I actually have on DVD. Even though they were actually babysitting Cassie.
Favorite Dan quote: "Don't get caught in a time vortex!"
I totally agree with you about the implications of the buildings moving locations and changing sizes so easily. I'm a civil engineer and my first thoughts when they kept throwing the lab building into different locations were "What about a proper foundation?" and "Where are they getting power for this lab?"
If they really are running a quantum tunnel, their energy needs would be staggering and need a stable source in order to run the computers alone, let alone the turbines that they show. If they had the time to explain how all the quantum realm stuff "works" (I still have questions, but that's not the point), then they could have spared a sentence for the lab.
Overall, it was still a fun movie and a nice respite from Infinity War, but won't place in my top 5 of the MCU.
And I'm with you, Roth. I always need more Michelle Pfeiffer in my life and can't wait to see what they do with her and Hope in the future!
The thing with Ant-man and the growth discs is, while it worked before, he didn't remember doing it or how he escaped the first time. So they may have never figured out that was possible. And if he does have some on him, it may not even occur to him to try it this time (especially before his mind gets lost).
You know, I really think that second post-credit scene would have been way better if the ant got ashed/snapped. At the very least it would've taken the snap questions and theories up a notch lol.
I really enjoyed ghost she was an interesting and complex character I really want to get to see more of her nothing like the comic version she could be more an Anti-Hero than a villain
In the comic books Hank Pym and Tony Stark have been even more morally gray than the MCU has ever shown. They have also both been storyline villains on occasion.
One difference between a movie that is “fun, pretty good” and a movie that is “awesome, amazing, great” is wether you leave the theater desperate to see it again. I left infinity like “OMG that was awesome, I need to see it again”. I left AM&W like “that was a pretty good, glad I had fun, I’m probably not gonna see it again”. Same thing for Solo btw.
Given this was coming out after Infinity War they were probably told not to connect in any big way to future films besides the post-credits scene. Also, I kept seeing I didn't have to stay for the second P-C scene, but I was so glad I did I just like the thought that Thanos kept the giant ants like he saw them with one of the stones and was like "yes I must keep those giant creatures in the universe" that's my theory anyway and I am sticking to it.
I thought that Janet meant that the location she is in will only stay where it is for the next 2 hours, and it won't align to that spot for another 1000 years. Plus, it's likely she can't take over Scott again, so this is their only real chance to get her.
I was hoping Janet Van Dyne will somehow be important in Avengers 4 bec of her exposure to the Quantum realm and Energy indicating that she is connected to Captain Marvel
I hoped for that as well. Her experiences in the micro verse and how it changed her is worth exploring. Also I just want to see her as the Wasp in a movie.
Janet was one of the victims of Thanos' finger snap.
This was the only MCU film that I’ve actually disliked. There are a lot of them that I think are just mediocre, but this was the first one that I’ve felt was just bad.
This film is, to put it simply, utterly pointless. It doesn't have to be some universe altering story...but the story we got was just...stagnant. Nothing really happened. Nothing was at stake. Nothing felt dangerous or tangible. It's just about meme generator like Ragnarok.
It's a 2 hour excuse for the post credit scene, and it's one of the most cynical films I've seen, well, since Ragnarok.
I can’t believe you got into how the shrinking house works. This is a deliriously fun and frothy film, which is what it sets out it to be, it’s not supposed to be taken seriously! I loved it. So much fun.
Maybe the ghost girl and Lawrence fishburne will get ant man out.
Janet didn't say "time vortex", she said "tardigrade" which was what Hank saw when he was shrinking and tried to harm him. Basically its a microorganism which is famed to be practically indestructible
I wonder if the client/clients that goggins character was working for that wouldn’t take no for an answer was setting up someone or something big. Like dr. Doom or the hellfire club
I think what would make up for the multiple storylines is if you see Burch again. He kept saying The Boss. Like he had a person above him. So if they came back to that again in tbe next movie then it wouldn't feel as wasted. So its like the movie introduced wasp, ghost and this underground bad guys.
The Goggins character was working for Hammer Inc to set up a Goggins/Rockwell buddy villain movie.
I did not enjoy this movie as much as the first, and overall, it was one of my least favorite from the MCU. Not to crap on it too much and ruin it, there was a lot of clunky dialogue and plot points, specifically that scene in the school with Ant-Man being the size of a child and that dubstep music playing. That was cringe worthy in my opinion. Also, why are there brand new cars turned over, burning in an alley? It was the scene towards the end when they were hiding. Definitely did not like the fact that there was zero consequence in any of it, save for the mid-credits scene, which is almost a cop-out in my eyes. And that car that Luis drove...that was heavily cringe-worthy to me as well.
I'll say, these are my opinions, and I can be pretty critical. It was a fun movie, and maybe the point was to highlight the heroes and be a completely feel-good movie. Felt like this movie was the one that was most geared towards little kids of all of the MCU movies, which is dope for them.
Just watched it tonight since I was at AX when it dropped and then came home incredibly sick and couldn't see it last Tuesday when my mom bought us tickets to see it. I went into this movie expecting nothing as usual, for Ant-Man anyway, but with all my love for Paul Rudd. In that respect I loved it, laughed, had a good time, and tried my best not to over think all the things that were annoying me. But then the post credit scene happened and I got angry. He's stuck in the quantum realm! And no one knows he's in there! How's he getting out in ANY movie before Avengers IW part 2/Avengers 4?! I was really, really hoping Ant-Man would be in the next Avengers because I love him as a character and I love Paul as an actor, but that just destroyed any hopes I had.
Then I got out of the film and began to fully process it and I feel the same in regards to there being too much going on. Ghost wasn't even a bad guy, she wasn't a villain, she was a victim of someone elses mistake and just wanted to stop hurting and save her own life, and just by perfect luck Janet came back and fixed her right up. This little side story is the only reason Scott even ended up in the quantum realm to remove him from the only story he could even be a part of next, which looking at the line-up is literally only the next Avengers. So unless they informed someone like Tony or Steve that hey, Scott's stuck in the quantum realm. I don't see how he's getting out unless he just does it himself at some point in which case there's even LESS reason he was left there at the end of this movie!
These were all the things happening in this movie: Scott staying under house arrest so he's constantly trying to outrun the FBI, saving Janet, avoiding/fighting/saving Ghost/Eva, taking back the Lab over and over again, Scott and Hope's once again underdeveloped love dynamic that's rewarded with yet another kiss right at the end, avoiding/fighting/chasing Burch and his goons, and lastly all the stuff with Luis and his company. It just seemed like way too much and a good half of that could have been removed for a more concise story and maybe in place included more character interactions to better develop their dynamics and overall characters. Still enjoyed it a lot, but just 'cause I liked it doesn't mean it didn't have flaws worth addressing in hopes if we DO one day get a 3rd one maybe they clean it up a bit more.
Odds on Ant Man showing up at the end or in the post credits scene of Captain Marvel having gone through the time vortex to get her? (That would also be an explanation as to why she hasn't been around this whole time)
Here's the thing: we NEEDED this nice little break after the devastation of Infinity War. And it was a fun movie with lovable characters and the World's Greatest Grandma!
Have yall never heard of a water tank before? He could pop one out of a briefcase in two seconds. The house I grew up in never had water main connections. I think the main problem is waste water. Septic tanks are gross.
"You should be saving the world wirh magic water!" I love Roth!
As for Hank being the true villain, that's not so much of a stretch. He keeps screwing people up and leaving them behind!
For me the ending had me the most interested (post credit scene). It was the only time I really cared to know what happens next. I wish this movie was more about the microverse Janet was in. The action scenes were great though, and I liked wasp, and Michael Pena narrating the story of how they met was EVERYTHING!!! 😂
I thought Walter goggins did the "persistent bad guy in way over his head" role rather well
Ant-Man and the Wasp: Three teams playing hot potato for about two hours 😝
Maybe they have enlarged Ants Running on Treadmills to produce energy for the Lab =D
I enjoyed this movie, not bad, not great but it had me laughing out loud at some points and the family relations felt really real.
I think of the movie as the marvel attempt at Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels.
I can't tell if it was on purpose but you guys dropped some of thy sickest puns ever in the episode. "I /hope/ to see more of Janet." "The ants were dropping like /flies/." "/Smaller/ stakes." "The /larger/ universe."
You are stretching
EwanMakeMovies or am I /growing/?
that after credit scene with the drums was pretty great :)
Another commentor said something that is close to my thought. What was fun about this movie, and Brilliant by Marvel/Disney is that this movie was fun, could stand on its own, yet is a part of a thread where we don't know where it's going. Nothing, until the mid credit scene was seemingly important to the greater MCU. So, the pay off that the Russo brothers were going for, making the audience wonder what is going to happen and feeling sort of gut punched, is still there. This just let us laugh for a while, then remember the gut punch.
At the end of this, we still have no idea how Avengers 4 or even Captain Marvel is going to play out. Not a clue. I think the Russo's are enjoying that.
I really enjoyed the film. I do agree with Dan & Roth that the parts(characters) were great, but the entire story line could have been better. Its 1 of those things that if this was a TV series we'd get those things fleshed out but because its a 2 hour film you can't quite do all of that. After watching the film & what's to come in Captain Marvel & AVENGERS 4 I think this is setting up aside from Dr. Doom & Galactus, The Beyonder, Sin, Kang the Conqueror, Annhilus, Count Nefaria, Amora The Enchantress, Taskmaster, & Morgan Le Fay as villains for the MCU in phase 4 and beyond.
Zias B Lou I agree the story is very basic but I LOVED GHOST, its complex and there is a discussion to have about why she is doing this (this is the quick version) she is doing it because she just doesn't want to hurt anymore she's been hurting since her father died and she didn't want that anymore. Laurence Fishburne is also complex but it's simple he thought Ghost as a daughter and didn't want to see her hurt. Hope was awesome and I could have a solo movie of just her. I would love to see Cassie as Scott's partner one day. Janet was interesting would like to see more of her and Hank, I also imagine if they do a third they would be back. Walton Goggjns is amazing actor and I hate that he has been "that bad guy" in the last 2 movies he'd done. Paul Rudd man, that's nuff said I think, but seriously he's so funny. Luis talking scene in this one is amazing. I'm just going on and now so I'm going to stop but I liked it.
If Taskmaster isn't used in Black Widow or in Marvel Netflix verse I could see him as the villian in the next film or Spidey villian Chameleon
What did Janet Van Dyne eat for THIRTY YEARS??!!!
And only ONE SET OF CLOTHING??? Why hasn't anyone raised those questions…??! 🤔🙄😒😲
I was hoping the "people disappearing because of Thanos" post credit scene in Ant-man would be shot like it was in Infinity War. Starting with Scott's daughter & cutting to his ex wife & her husband, then it goes to Bill. & then Hank while he's with Janet, Scott & Hope. & then Janet goes, Hope & Scott start freaking out. Then Hope disappears as Scott is trying to calm her down. Fade to black.
I’m one of those weirdos who do not care for spoilers.
Not many spoilers for the MCU in general other than the PS scene. A bunch of possible stuff set up for future movies.
So y'all just going to ignore the fact that a woman survived for 30 years with no food, water or oxygen in the quantum zone or whatever, and yet came out of it looking incredible, dazzling with a shiny new sword lance thing. IF THEY'RE THE SIZE OF ELEMENTAL PARTICLES THEN WHAT ARE THEY MADE OF
The energy came from the Duracell battery in the building dan!
i was expecting more balls with the snap something like: scotts at the park and he sees people disappear in the distance, looks around and more people dusting until finally he looks at cassie as she turns. the pyms didnt do it for me lol
That would be so depressing and jarring considering the tone of the film in front of it. The reason I think they didn't do that is that they've cast a teenage actor to play Cassie in Avengers 4.
A fare assessment. I feel it fell short of the first one and could have added more Momma Pym and less megufen shuttling. Very interested in the whole time travel discussion. Scene it in multiple reviews.
It annoyed me greatly that Janet disappeared in the end scene.
An entire movie putting effort into saving her only to immediately get rid of her
‘Phantom Zone’ ... love you Roth
For all the people saying "what did Janet eat and how did she poop in the quantum realm?" if we're to go on the movie rules established, since going big drains your energy extra quick going sub-atomic would stretch out your longevity almost indefinitely without having to eat or drink. Antman is not scientific though so stop trying to look at it that way.
MCU chronological watch order
1. Captain America The First Avenger
2. Iron Man
3. Iron Man 2
4. The Incredible Hulk
5. Thor
6. The Avengers
7. Iron Man 3
8. Thor The Dark World
9. Guardians of the Galaxy
10. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
11. Captain America The Winter Soldier
12. Avengers Age of Ultron
13. Ant-Man
14. Captain America Civil War
15. Black Panther
16. Spider-Man Homecoming
17. Doctor Strange
18. Ant-Man & The Wasp
19. Thor Ragnarok
20. Avengers Infinity War
I just keep saying it’s another episode in a (TV) series. It’s a filler episode. Setting you up for the season finale (Avengers IW: Part 2.)
I’m POSITIVE all the characters who were “snapped away” are in the Quantum Realm.
I missed the “time vortex” part. Interesting...
Yah. I thought the mom would have gone evil or something while in the Quantum Realm. But at the same time, we haven’t seen much of her yet, so who knows.
Suspend reality, Dan. Suspend reality.
They have giant Duracell batteries in the building, is how.
Putting quantum in front of everything is an age old sci-fi method of making things sound 50% more scientific. You should see how often Star Trek does it, quantum fissure, quantum incursion, quantum flux, quantum inverter, quantum implosion, quantum stasis.
I felt like this movie was more like a heist movie with superhero elements, than a superhero movie.
I enjoyed the video, fyi for Ant-Man 3, the plural of Vortex is Vortices, not vortexes, lol
I enjoyed Ant Man and The Wasp. Even if I had to give the logical part of my brain a beer and tell it to chill out.
I am really disappointing that Marvel dusted Hank and Jan Pym. Marvel missed an amazing opportunity to have Mechil Phypher and Micheal Douglas playing Ant Man and Wasp in Infinity war Part 2 or a 3rd And Man and the Wasp movie. If Liam Neeson can have an old man action series with Taken, then Marvel can make one movie with these two kicking ass.
Seriously though Marvel brakes it's own rules with shrinking objects. They state that shrunken objects keep their mass yet have the characters pick up a shrunken building as if it's luggage. Also how does that building have power and water if you rip it from it's original foundation and utility hook ups? Wouldn't every thing in that building get destroyed by literally falling all over the place and crashing into things?
I know have a beer, a hot dog, and chill. It was a silly fun movie. However the preposterous leaps of "logic" on how to fix Ghost's problem is a little to much to ignore. Also how did Jan survive in the micro verse? How did she eat, breath, and shelter herself for 30 years? Damn I cant turn it off.
Dirus Nigh Mass is different from weight. I assume they lose their weight as they shrink but retain their mass in a more compact way.
The buildings shrinking make no sense but eh we can assume that they’re bolted down. Hank is smart so I guess he made sure to make their lab self sustaining and bolted down. It’s a big assumption but oh well.
You're watching the wrong movie if you want to scrutinise the rules that closely. The entire concept of Antman is infeasible at the lowest to highest levels so you just need to let a lot slide and have fun with the silliness.
Theme: There are three sets of fathers and daughters represented in this film, all of them at least ATTEMPTING nurturing relationships.
Compare to Infinity War which features an incredibly abusive father/daughter relationship.
I think a lot of this comes down to what you want from a Marvel Movie, if you came into this hoping for something like Black Panther or Winter Soldier you might be disappointed. I came in hoping for a light, Paul Rudd, action comedy and I loved it.
Also I don't really understand complaining about the science in an MCU movie, in a universe with Space Vikings and Infinity Stones we are getting hung up on quantum plumbing?
Anyway, I had a smile on my face from the Marvel Logo to the end credits so I was happy. I hope you enjoyed it too, if not I hope you enjoy the next film you see more! :)
+Johnny Goodfellow some people will start expecting an infinity war like movie 3 times a year.
Johnny Goodfellow It being a light comedy isn't the point. It being a poorly written, ugly looking film is the problem.
this was 10 times better than winter soldier and awful black panther
Spoilers don't matter to me because i still haven't actually seen it. I'm not going to visualize it the same and i won't remember it while I'm watching.
ants are slaves by default
Don’t you remember the giant aa batteries. Lol.
To be fair, we don't know that the ants are slaves. Maybe they're paid in food. Maybe they have a union. Maybe they just want to be gigantic so they don't get eaten by spiders all the time.
Some people just can’t afford the movies, and this is the best they can do. Ever think of that? No need to call us weird.
I was oddly bored during 75% of the movie. Randall Park was my favorite part. Until the post credit sequence - that was amazing!
Regarding the plumbing and power of the building; a wizard did it.
Still did not explain why they had no clue the infinity war stuff was going on... it was a world thing it was huge big ass ship in NY even if they in cali they would have heard about it
SPOILERS
I've been told by people that know whats happening in Avengers 4 that the snap conflict is resolved at the beginning of the 3rd. And that we will see everyone that we will see every hero in the MCU in one scene together. And they also said that Thanos is defeated by what resolved the snap so I guess we'll see.
I found the movie really bland. The movie Dan explained that he didn't want.. actually sounds pretty good.
The quantum realm isn't meant for anyone to be stuck there for 20 without going mad. I would have liked if Janet Van Dine came back a little "different"
Ant Man got out of the quantum realm before, however this one he’s in a quantum tunnel and what if he doesn’t wanna grow big and break it and cause a big explosion or something that can go horribly wrong like that. Idk, lame excuse, but he probably just doesn’t have a growy disc.
Is it just me or the wife reunion scene is pretty much lifted from HTTYD2, complete with the mom surviving in the wild somehow gaining knowledge and powers?
Arif R Winandar Also ghosts powers are the same as the twins from Matrix Reloaded.
HTTYD2?
How To Train Your Dragon 2
(a film for which the studio IDIOTICALLY spoiled that revelation in the trailers)
It's a beautiful, hilarious story about fathers and daughters-- Hank and Hope, Scott and Cassie, Bob and... Ghost(?). That's the real strength.
and yet we never really felt any of thoe touching moments except scott and cassie
Stewart Fletcher it’s Ava I think
I really loved this film! Antman and The Wasp >>> Black Panther. And Ghost is incredible. It is funny for me that everybody “got” Killmonger but think that Ghost fell flat. She was a great antagonist. This is one of the greatest Marvels for me! A great superhero film first, with lots of unique and exciting action set-pieces. It is a comedy second and a great one, but it is an awesome superhero film. Wasp kicks ass!
Guess you guys never been out in the country with NO RUNNING water and sewers
You have watertanks and septic tanks and generators
The houses/buildings don't need a foundation because they're Quantum Buildings. Easy mistake.
I've always felt Hank Pym was a friggin' prick, so really, Roth, I think you should maybe explore that line of thought a bit further.
Lesson learnt .. watch only the teaser. Save the trailers for after the movie. They totally ruin every cool scene.
The main problem with this movie is Janet Van Dyne has been training as the Wasp for a long time,goes to Quantum Realm and gets stuck for long time. Scott Lang learns about this stuff over a weekend and goes into Quantum Realm and finds a way to come back instantly. Why have Janet Van Dyne incompetent just to make your main character look great and can do anything with no little experience?
jon williams you do know how Scott got out using his enlarging disc right ? If Janet didn’t have any then she couldn’t get out like Scott did . Scott was just lucky
Matthew Heywood He uses the enlarging disc because the script needed him to get out the quantum zone and impress the other characters. By you saying Scott was lucky proves my point. Right ,the hero of the movie can do anything.
jon williams is this the first comic book movie or comic book you have ever seen or read? It is a quite common occurrence in them hate to break the news to you
I hope laurence fishbourne gets ant man out with ghost because they mustve known he was going into quantum realm since it was for ghost's benefit
Well... none of the ants look sad. And maybe that thing that controls them makes them feel happy doing everything they’re told.
Am I the only one who feels that if DC produced this same exact movie Screen Junkies would be bashing the hell out of it right now?
I wouldn't reccomend this for the comedy. Some of its good some of it was super flat for me. I liked the relationships between Scott and Cassie, Hank and Hope and Janet, and Hope and Scott. That's what's best in this movie. The rest is just kinda fine.
It was an okay and really fun movie. After the Infinity War trauma (which the end credit scene reminds us of) this is what we need. A nice breather.
And other stuffing..
Hey guy's love the shows (my viewing history shows it) but I can't help but think that these spoiler reviews are a little unneeded so what do I mean, well I get that a place to talk about the movie you just saw is the spoiler review you get to say how the specific plot details affected you and how that colours your critical opinion.... But should we not call it that thete isn't a need for spoilers for an opinion but taking about the movie conveying how it made you feel and how it influences you that could be a great panel show on its own..... Just one man's opinion. Love your stuff