Whether you've inherited one of these wonderful machines, or are interested in purchasing one, these machines are easy to operate and I'll show you how.
Thanks for the video. I was at the dump, and a lady was unloading one of these into the scrap heap. Took it home, watched this video and found out it works fine, wood needs some attention, but grateful I was able to save it...
A couple of further notes, which may have not been raised before: Not all Edison discs can be played on this: there are a couple of exceptions. One is the "Long Play" disc, which was introduced in 1926; it requires a double spring motor, special gearing, and a different reproducer (these could be fitted by the dealer as an upgrade). The second is the "Needle Cut" disc: a regular shellac 78 that was marketed for a very short time in 1929. Both of these are quite rare, though. As for reproducers: the "standard" reproducer (with a couple of early variations) was offered in several finishes - nickel, gold, oxidized copper (rare), and gunmetal. Then there was the "Dance" reproducer, which used a heavier weight and spring-loaded connections to increase the volume. This was superseded by the "Edisonic", which can be recognized by its large, round weight. Finally, there was the aforementioned "Long Play" reproducer, which had an extremely fine stylus.
I can not thank you enough for this video! I was going down to pick up one of these tomorrow for $100 and it is in very good condition. BUT, I had no idea it would not play the thinner 78 rpm style records, of which I have a large collection that I inherited from an aunt of mine. I did not know the thicker records were even made. Thank you and I really enjoyed watching this piece of history.
I think it also might be good to explain that Diamond Discs are modulated with grooves that are "hill and dale" or move up and down. All the other disc systems used lateral or side to side grooves so that's why the Diamond disc reproducers would literally tear the side to side grooves of other brands and cause physical damage to the Diamond reproducer it self.
Wonderful quick introduction to the Edison DD Phonograph. I just obtained one Sunday and am already amazed by the clarity of the sound. The friend who helped me move it already had 3 from the 1970s so he was well familiar with all the particulars of setting it up and explaining its operation. Great, simple video. Thank you!
Just a fantastic video. Thank you. A lady at a yard sale sold me one of these for next to nothing and I’m trying to figure out the ins and outs. Tremendously useful to me. I appreciate it.
What a BEAUTIFUL Machine you have there - and such an informative, interesting and descriptive Video! I LOVE Gramophones, and have several - but not this particular Model. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks so much for this informative video. Its quality and clarity are excellent. I just brought home my Edison C-150, so your video was particularly helpful.
My aunt has one with a buizar tone arm. It is highly adjustable with interconnected pipes. It even has interchangable tips. It works beautifully. It even cane with a broken conventional arm, a container of tips, and 18 disks. One of them is slightly thinner than the rest, but plays well.
This video is just what I needed! Just got a Sheraton S19 and around 3 dozen records with it but I had no idea about how to run it or care for it. It's in very nice shape, with all parts and cabinet intact including the fabric behind the fretwork. It plays, but the speed control doesn't seem to be working. I'm going to get some 3-1 and see it that helps as it has been sitting for years without being used.
Please note that all disc phonographs / gramophone motor springs should be wound up with the turntable running.. The brake can be adjusted by a screw to change the position of the right lever so that it is tripped at the end of the longest record track. I tend not to use it, though, on my Chippendale C-19 model.
The mute is a very funny thing!. I enjoy your explanations cause your speaking is clear and slow enough to understand to my poor English. Congratulations for your machine! Never seen one in my country Uruguay, South America. Never had an Edison record in my hands either.
I inherited the S19 that has the speed control to the upper left of the turntable and the cabinet opens downward with the records inside. The only thing is that the turntable starts to slow down as soon as I lower the arm to the record and brings it to a stop. Now watching the video that you did I can see that it probably needs some oil in some key places, but if you have any other ideas as to why the turntable would slow down please let me know. When I crank it up it turns just fine until I lower the arm. I am hoping that it is now the motor because it seemed to work fine a few months back
I have one as well. Thanks for the tips. My parents bought ours from an estate sale in 1972 for $23. It is in great shape, except the front panel is missing. I have 13 discs and it plays wonderfully. Mine is an H19 sn 2439
I used to have one like this. I can't remember exactly but I think the automatic stop arm is supposed to turn manually to suit the individual disc. There's a setscrew you loosen underneath the platter. This is due to the fact that Edison diamond discs had end points that varied based upon the length of the song and unfortunately Edison never put in an end spiral. Yours might have frozen in one place due to corrosion. My old manual referred to figure 6. Check yours. Beautiful machine!
After years of waiting, I found it on ebay. I had to travel miles to pick it up... but it was well worth it! The gramophone was in excellent working condition and okay-ish cosmetic condition... and came with 63 discs! I've just spent 10 days cleaning it, removing the rust (wire wool, rust remover, Dremmel with polishing compound), sensitively restaining the cabinet to its original colour because parts of it had faded in sunlight, and making a new trellis (thank you, fretsaw). The sound is great - seems better than most standard 78s - and, as I said, your video has helped a lot. For example, I never thought of using both hands to start playing the record: one on the lever and the other on the "tone arm" to steady it... otherwise you have to be a helicopter pilot to control both lateral and vertical movement using the lever by itself! I can now start the record at the start as opposed to somewhere near the start, thanks to you! Best wishes.
to make your auto stop work, pull straight UP on the handle that controls your tonearm. This will take the tension off the metal cog under it. You can move that cog CLOSER to the brake mechanism, so that when the record reaches the end, that cog will bump the brake and shut it off. Very nice machine and a good presentation.
That is not how to adjust the stop. Just remove the turntable and loosen the adjustment screw on the stop, move stop pad to the desired location and retirement screw, replace turntable.
Hi, I was able to purchase one of these machines and it plays great after oiling and rebuilding the reproducer, it also included roughly 80 Edison DD records however some of them are so filthy and scratchy sounding. Do you have any tips on cleaning them, currently I am just using a soft cloth and 90% alcohol. I believe the diamond stylus is the original also, so I am thinking replacing it would improve the quality as well.
You would have to send the reproducer to a restorer for rebuilding. I would recommend Steve Medved (steve_noreen@msn.com): not only can you get the new Bruce stylus, but you can also get the "True-tone" diaphragm, which gives great reproduction.
Hi! Thanks for the very informative video! We just picked up and Edison Disc Phonograph model LU-37 from a flea market and have been enjoying figuring out how to use it. Ours does not appear to have a volume control like you mentioned. Is this standard for this model? Also, it came with two different heads. One to play the Edison thick disc and another head with a longer, thinner needle. Do you know what type of discs that head can play? Thank you!
There is an Edison in the basement and thanks to you I had the courage and knowledge to try to see if it works. It works! I’m just having an issue with the needle. As it moves forward it does not want to pull the arm with it. It is sort of floating and when it reaches the wire part it plays the same line over and over until you give the arm a push. Any idea what I can do to help it along?
There is a worm gear (a metal rod with lines on it) that something is supposed to sit on and move the arm. I would check there. When you lower the arm, it engages this action.
Oil it. Don’t use 3 in 1 oil, use sewing machine oil. Might take a while to work in. Also, are you using the cueing lever? That matters as he covered here.
I just got a Edison player and I love it. However when I got it at home it seems like the records are playing really fast. How do I adjust the speed to get the right sound of the record. It was working great where I bought it from so something must’ve happened during transport Please help
Enjoyed your video! We have an edison just like your's, but the horn has come unsoldered from the two small metal plates that move it from behind. I wonder how to get it fixed?
I just picked up a H 19 that's been in my family sense the late 1920s there's a Edison recreation record of a wedding. I wonder if it's my great grandparents? Just need to find some needles.
I acquired a LU - 37 phonograph. It plays but not at the proper speed. The platter goes faster and faster as time passes. Is there a site to find how it actually works? Thanks, good video.
Dale Haigh your speed Governor is bad or stuck . Oil it and see if that helps. Do you have the Long Playing LU-37? If so, does it have two different heads?
Thank you for posting this. I’m actually in the market now looking for a phonograph that is old and your video taught me that we’re not to play non Edison records on an Edison machine. I didn’t know that, I have other 78’s that I’d like to play, what other models do you recommend? I wanted Edison but it sounds limiting as to what I can play. I’m hoping to spend under $300 for one. Thanks from Virginia.
Look on EBAY for an Edison adapter reproducer.. the Diamond Disc repro comes off with a twist of the ring and the adapter goes in... plays regular 78s.. usually about $125.. mant different brands.. OroTone made a selection of good ones
"Normal" 78's are cut laterally Edison "Diamond Discs" are cut vertically, this is why you can't play a normal 78 on an Edison DD machine (without a different (adapter) reproducer, this is ALSO true the other was around, you should NEVER attempt to play an Edison DD records on a normal 78 record player (Just about every other brand that's NOT Edison). "Fun fact": Modern stereo records use a "mix" of a lateral AND vertical cut.
Edison reproducers are very difficult to find. Some Edison gramophones came with both the vertical reproducer for Victor, Columbia and other conventional 78s and the horizontal reproducer for Edison Diamond Discs.
All Sonora phonograph models including mine has a tonearm and reproducer, and it was the first fully compatible phonograph to play both lateral and vertical cut records. To play a vertical records, you have to turn the tonearm and move the reproducer to the folding position and play an Edison Diamond and Pathe record with the Sonora.
I disagree. The spring can become detached in its barrel from the hook called an arbor. I wouldn’t touch a broken spring again for a lot of $, got badly injured trying to fix one many years ago! (Not an Edison)
I have a Victrola Edison, and it came with 2 tone arm heads and I'm wondering what the difference is. Also what oil would you recommend that we use? Thanks
+The Flying Pie Plays - The two heads allows your machine to play both Edison discs and standard 78rpm discs. On mine, I used sewing machine oil and put 4 or 5 drops it into the holes. 3-IN-ONE is the brand of oil.
I just inherited one from my aunt and I know she used it. I am so afraid to use it since it is so old, but it is in great shape and I suppose meant to be enjoyed. There are 42 records inside (yes, the thick ones). I have not yet checked the needle, but will before we play it. I have a question, there is a medallion inside that says something like 'model 250 is the official laboratory model..." but when I look up model 250 it does not look like the one I have. Mine looks exactly like the W-19 with the crisscross attaching the legs, so I am confused. Can you help determine which model I have? Mine also has a pull handle in the center of the 'door' which pulls out a drawer that contains the records. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you so much
haydeehaydeehaydee Thank you for your comments and congrats on your inheritance! The best place for the answers you need are on this forum: edisonphonos.proboards.com/board/4/diamond-disc-phonograph-discussion-board
How does one replace the needle? Where may one buy a replacement diamond tipped needle. If none may be had, can one replace the needle with a regular needle and would you be able to play non-Edison records?
There are a couple video`s on here that show how to replace the stylus. You can find them, but they are not cheap, somewhere around $150 depending on where you look. You only want to use a diamond stylus made for a Edison.
I just obtained an Edison Diamond Disc Phonograph. It plays a record half way through before slowing down nio matter how much I wind it. Am I doing something wrong, or does something need to be adjusted? Thanks
This is helpful! I inherited an Edison Diamond Disc turntable from my grandparents, and approached it knowing nothing about technology that doesn't say mp3... Thanks for the great video!
I'm not aware of seeing an Edison player. But, I bought an Edison record around 2 weeks ago at The Salvation Army. All 78 players I have are stereo. The player of choice had a stereo mono switch. I thought it would sound better with the switch set to mono. I was dead wrong. I didn't know that Edison records were recorded differently than average 78s.
@@Lucius1958 It actually sounds quite good with the wiring as is on my stereo record player. But the player must be set to stereo. I need to do a video of it playing. My dad passed from heart failure not too long after I bought the disc. I guess I forgot to post a video of it playing.
The oil tubes are actually plugged with fiber at the lower end to keep the oil flowing slow and smooth.. otherwise it would just drip out all over and make a mess.. don't "clean out" your tubes.....
How do you change the needle on my Edison Disc Phonograph B19 SM 0164 and can you tell me the year of my B19 because I can not find to much information on the internet and what needle do I get for it ... Thank you Richard
Edison Needles last 100 years! I know, I have 3, one (cylinder) machine from 1903, and 2 Diamond Disc machines, plus the rarer Edison Portable that does play 78’s. That one won’t play Diamond Disc records though.
My reproducer seems to be too low, every time I put it on the record it applies so much pressure that it stops the record... any tips on how to fix that?
Needles can be replaced by a qualified restoration tech, but can easily last 100 years. I have 3, never needed to replace a needle yet, all play perfectly!
Can you tell me how to insert a needle? My 1903 Edison was gifted to me from the family of my cousin who passed away and there was no needle. I put chased a package of needles on eBay but I am not familiar with installing a needle. Thank you!
An Edison diamond disc phonograph does not use steel needles. It actually uses a diamond tip needle. You would need to acquire a completely new needle from eBay or some other source. But do not use steel needles.
Pathé records used a much larger sapphire ball stylus, and were recorded at a much coarser thread than Edison discs. You *might* be able to play *some* Pathés with a suitable adaptor and stylus; but their early etched label discs play from the inside out, and would not be playable on an Edison machine.
Yes, you can! Swap the right channel wires around (usually red and green) and you're good to go! You don't HAVE to have an Edison Diamond Disc phonograph to play Edison Diamond Discs!
Diamond Discs are vertically cut records, as to the more common horizontally cut records. It won't sound correct on a machine that isn't designed to play vertically cut records.
Edison discs are recorded in a series of bumps and troughs, standard vinyl records are side to side. You'd probably mess up your stylus if you tried an Edison on a modern turntable
You can play Edison discs perfectly on a modern player if you can vary the speed and have a pre-amplifier with proper equalisation and correct stylus size. Please visit "The Edison Man" RUclips channel.
You may not need to rewire the record player. Regular vinyl records are Mid-Side-modulated. The Mid-Part (Mono downmix) is cut horizontally. The side part (Stereo difference) is cut vertically. If you play a Diamond Disc instead (using correct needle), the record player would treat the vertical cut mono signal as pure stereo difference. That will end up in antiphased mono playback. To prevent that, just unplug one of the audio cables plugged into the amp (and switch the amp to mono to have both speakers working :-)).
I have an "LC-38" Edison Disk Phonograph" player. Serial number 21440. Is it a "diamond disc"? I also have about 50 records that go with it (the real thick ones.) Are the records, which are only in "fair" shape but definitely playable, worth anything? Is this player worth restoring? Thanks for any help. The machine belonged to my great-grandparents.
F.M. Scott Yes, you have a Diamond Disc. The records, depending on the number series, may be worth a lot or very little. Discs in the 52,000 series and above are highly prized. Also, one disc with Edison's voice on it is worth quite a bit. The player, when working, could be worth a couple hundred dollars. I paid about $150 for mine working. Search LC-38 on ebay for current values.
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Thanks for the video. I was at the dump, and a lady was unloading one of these into the scrap heap. Took it home, watched this video and found out it works fine, wood needs some attention, but grateful I was able to save it...
A couple of further notes, which may have not been raised before:
Not all Edison discs can be played on this: there are a couple of exceptions. One is the "Long Play" disc, which was introduced in 1926; it requires a double spring motor, special gearing, and a different reproducer (these could be fitted by the dealer as an upgrade). The second is the "Needle Cut" disc: a regular shellac 78 that was marketed for a very short time in 1929. Both of these are quite rare, though.
As for reproducers: the "standard" reproducer (with a couple of early variations) was offered in several finishes - nickel, gold, oxidized copper (rare), and gunmetal. Then there was the "Dance" reproducer, which used a heavier weight and spring-loaded connections to increase the volume. This was superseded by the "Edisonic", which can be recognized by its large, round weight. Finally, there was the aforementioned "Long Play" reproducer, which had an extremely fine stylus.
I can not thank you enough for this video! I was going down to pick up one of these tomorrow for $100 and it is in very good condition. BUT, I had no idea it would not play the thinner 78 rpm style records, of which I have a large collection that I inherited from an aunt of mine. I did not know the thicker records were even made. Thank you and I really enjoyed watching this piece of history.
they have 78 adapters for them too. I have this same model (s-19)
but i have a normal 78 tone arm on it
I think it also might be good to explain that Diamond Discs are modulated with grooves that are "hill and dale" or move up and down. All the other disc systems used lateral or side to side grooves so that's why the Diamond disc reproducers would literally tear the side to side grooves of other brands and cause physical damage to the Diamond reproducer it self.
Thanks so much for this video! I just recently received my grandpa’s Edison phonograph. This video helped me learn to operate it correctly.
The wallpaper goes great with the machine! and on another note, I am a big fan and I really hope to see more videos like this!
Wonderful quick introduction to the Edison DD Phonograph. I just obtained one Sunday and am already amazed by the clarity of the sound. The friend who helped me move it already had 3 from the 1970s so he was well familiar with all the particulars of setting it up and explaining its operation. Great, simple video. Thank you!
Thanks for your comment!
This is absolutely amazing, love it!
What a wonderful machine, just love it! Thanks for doing such a great video!
Thank you for the compliment and for watching!
Thank you so much for teaching so well. I recently acquired an Edison BC-34 (Baby Console) and you answered all my questions...so far 🍒🍒🍒
You're welcome! Enjoy!
Just a fantastic video. Thank you. A lady at a yard sale sold me one of these for next to nothing and I’m trying to figure out the ins and outs. Tremendously useful to me. I appreciate it.
It is amazing how quiet the mechanism runs, don't think I've ever heard one that quiet. But maintenance does help!
You did an excellent job explaining how to operate the Edison machine. I plan to get one down the road.
+Robert Mechner Thank you Robert, I appreciate the feedback.
Interesting presentation thank, hope to see more like this ! 👍
Thank you for such an informative video. I really enjoyed watching it and have learned a few new things about my Edison.
You're very welcome, best wishes with that new Edison!
They are actually selling for more like $1000 on the webs :)
What a BEAUTIFUL Machine you have there - and such an informative, interesting and descriptive Video! I LOVE Gramophones, and have several - but not this particular Model. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks so much for this informative video. Its quality and clarity are excellent. I just brought home my Edison C-150, so your video was particularly helpful.
John Lindsay Congrats on your new Edison, John. Thanks for watching!
Great Video - Good tips and easy to follow.
I was wondering about that. Just acquired a Edison Phonograph C150 Sheridan and plan on using high grade sewing machine oil
My aunt has one with a buizar tone arm. It is highly adjustable with interconnected pipes. It even has interchangable tips. It works beautifully. It even cane with a broken conventional arm, a container of tips, and 18 disks. One of them is slightly thinner than the rest, but plays well.
This video is just what I needed! Just got a Sheraton S19 and around 3 dozen records with it but I had no idea about how to run it or care for it. It's in very nice shape, with all parts and cabinet intact including the fabric behind the fretwork. It plays, but the speed control doesn't seem to be working. I'm going to get some 3-1 and see it that helps as it has been sitting for years without being used.
+Sherry Winkinhofer - congratulations on your purchase! Sometimes they just need to be loosened up and used.
I can smell the old just by looking at it, lol... Nice video, thanks.
Goodness that's a real BEAUTY! the condition is AMAZING! looks like it was made only yesterday
Beautiful pieces;)
Please note that all disc phonographs / gramophone motor springs should be wound up with the turntable running.. The brake can be adjusted by a screw to change the position of the right lever so that it is tripped at the end of the longest record track. I tend not to use it, though, on my Chippendale C-19 model.
Thank you so much for this very informative video! I really appreciate you.
The mute is a very funny thing!. I enjoy your explanations cause your speaking is clear and slow enough to understand to my poor English. Congratulations for your machine! Never seen one in my country Uruguay, South America. Never had an Edison record in my hands either.
Thank you for being a subscriber, Luis!
Wouldn't use 3in1 oil it gums up try sewing machine oil.
That IS sewing machine oil. Red and black 3-in-1 oil is meant for sewing machines.
I have just inherited one - thank you - I’m winding mine up now.
i found a diamond disc awhile ago, my grandpa just said “you want it” and now i have a great display peace
I inherited the S19 that has the speed control to the upper left of the turntable and the cabinet opens downward with the records inside. The only thing is that the turntable starts to slow down as soon as I lower the arm to the record and brings it to a stop. Now watching the video that you did I can see that it probably needs some oil in some key places, but if you have any other ideas as to why the turntable would slow down please let me know. When I crank it up it turns just fine until I lower the arm. I am hoping that it is now the motor because it seemed to work fine a few months back
I have one as well. Thanks for the tips. My parents bought ours from an estate sale in 1972 for $23. It is in great shape, except the front panel is missing. I have 13 discs and it plays wonderfully. Mine is an H19 sn 2439
wow, edison disks are hyper rare
An additional tip - these machines were meant to be played with the lid closed.
Yes, Closing the lid will DRAMATICALLY cut down the surface noise!
Great video, thank you!
Super informative, outstanding video
What a beautiful record player
I used to have one like this. I can't remember exactly but I think the automatic stop arm is supposed to turn manually to suit the individual disc. There's a setscrew you loosen underneath the platter. This is due to the fact that Edison diamond discs had end points that varied based upon the length of the song and unfortunately Edison never put in an end spiral. Yours might have frozen in one place due to corrosion. My old manual referred to figure 6. Check yours. Beautiful machine!
Thanks for the input!
Most helpful, thank you. Just got one - thrilled! - and was a little puzzled about some its features. Great help.
Awesome! Where did you find it?
After years of waiting, I found it on ebay. I had to travel miles to pick it up... but it was well worth it! The gramophone was in excellent working condition and okay-ish cosmetic condition... and came with 63 discs! I've just spent 10 days cleaning it, removing the rust (wire wool, rust remover, Dremmel with polishing compound), sensitively restaining the cabinet to its original colour because parts of it had faded in sunlight, and making a new trellis (thank you, fretsaw). The sound is great - seems better than most standard 78s - and, as I said, your video has helped a lot. For example, I never thought of using both hands to start playing the record: one on the lever and the other on the "tone arm" to steady it... otherwise you have to be a helicopter pilot to control both lateral and vertical movement using the lever by itself! I can now start the record at the start as opposed to somewhere near the start, thanks to you! Best wishes.
Thanks for sharing your story! Mine is still working wonderfully and I enjoy showing it to guests who find it fascinating.
Stuffing something into the horn of an acoustic record player is where the expression "put a sock in it" (meaning to be quiet) comes from.
If there was an Edison Diamond Disc Recorder, I would record an ‘80s song! Also, my own song has an ‘80s vibe. It’s called “We Are The Best Dancers!”.
sewing machine oil is much better for this kind of usage, but overall a wonderful video !
Thanks for posting. Just got one
immediately subscribed no one has ever responded to my comments before thanks for the reply
You're welcome Jarod, thanks for subscribing!
to make your auto stop work, pull straight UP on the handle that controls your tonearm. This will take the tension off the metal cog under it. You can move that cog CLOSER to the brake mechanism, so that when the record reaches the end, that cog will bump the brake and shut it off. Very nice machine and a good presentation.
Thanks for the tip Rod. I still have the machine, still works great.
That is not how to adjust the stop. Just remove the turntable and loosen the adjustment screw on the stop, move stop pad to the desired location and retirement screw, replace turntable.
Should have read "re-tighten".
That thickness was crazy
Hi, I was able to purchase one of these machines and it plays great after oiling and rebuilding the reproducer, it also included roughly 80 Edison DD records however some of them are so filthy and scratchy sounding. Do you have any tips on cleaning them, currently I am just using a soft cloth and 90% alcohol. I believe the diamond stylus is the original also, so I am thinking replacing it would improve the quality as well.
I saw a Edison disc on Discogs in poor condition and got really curious so thanks for the video!
Glad I could help!
I just acquired one from a barn (family farm) that was under many layers of good protection.
Beautiful
Do you have a reference or video on how to replace the needle in this type of early 1900's Edison phonograph? Thanks, Bill Skye
You would have to send the reproducer to a restorer for rebuilding.
I would recommend Steve Medved (steve_noreen@msn.com): not only can you get the new Bruce stylus, but you can also get the "True-tone" diaphragm, which gives great reproduction.
Hi! Thanks for the very informative video! We just picked up and Edison Disc Phonograph model LU-37 from a flea market and have been enjoying figuring out how to use it. Ours does not appear to have a volume control like you mentioned. Is this standard for this model? Also, it came with two different heads. One to play the Edison thick disc and another head with a longer, thinner needle. Do you know what type of discs that head can play? Thank you!
+Nina Tissi-Gassoway - the dual heads are for playing Edison discs as well as 78's from Columbia, Victor, etc.
You May have a RARE Edison Long Playing head! If you do, it is valuable!
There is an Edison in the basement and thanks to you I had the courage and knowledge to try to see if it works. It works! I’m just having an issue with the needle. As it moves forward it does not want to pull the arm with it. It is sort of floating and when it reaches the wire part it plays the same line over and over until you give the arm a push. Any idea what I can do to help it along?
There is a worm gear (a metal rod with lines on it) that something is supposed to sit on and move the arm. I would check there. When you lower the arm, it engages this action.
Oil it. Don’t use 3 in 1 oil, use sewing machine oil. Might take a while to work in. Also, are you using the cueing lever? That matters as he covered here.
I just got a Edison player and I love it. However when I got it at home it seems like the records are playing really fast. How do I adjust the speed to get the right sound of the record.
It was working great where I bought it from so something must’ve happened during transport
Please help
Enjoyed your video! We have an edison just like your's, but the horn has come unsoldered from the two small metal plates that move it from behind. I wonder how to get it fixed?
Find a friend who can do welding and weld it back together for you.
You could also have it replaced, if you'd like.
I believe these machines can also play any *vertical cut* disc -- such as a Pathe -- as opposed th the *lateral cut* discs like Victor or Columbia.
Pathe disks are not compatible. I think Pathe plays inside to outside.
Go to the FaceBook forums.
No! Do not play Pathe’ or any other Vertical cut Disc, you will destroy the record and hurt your machine!
I just picked up a H 19 that's been in my family sense the late 1920s there's a Edison recreation record of a wedding. I wonder if it's my great grandparents? Just need to find some needles.
This unit requires a diamond needle as part of the reproducer. Might find a reproducer replacement on ebay with needle in it.
It would be unusual to have a private recording in those days, the equipment was the size of a Motorhome!
this is great for the beginner !
Just bought a BC 34 that mostly works. Still examining it. The unit came with a catalog of Edison records listed by "mood"
Hmmm. Sounds intriguing!
Thanks very much indeed, very interesting adventure to the past!!! What surprises is it uses no electricity at all all manual 🎩😃🎄!!!
I acquired a LU - 37 phonograph. It plays but not at the proper speed. The platter goes faster and faster as time passes. Is there a site to find how it actually works? Thanks, good video.
Dale Haigh your speed Governor is bad or stuck . Oil it and see if that helps. Do you have the Long Playing LU-37? If so, does it have two different heads?
Thank you for posting this. I’m actually in the market now looking for a phonograph that is old and your video taught me that we’re not to play non Edison records on an Edison machine. I didn’t know that, I have other 78’s that I’d like to play, what other models do you recommend? I wanted Edison but it sounds limiting as to what I can play. I’m hoping to spend under $300 for one. Thanks from Virginia.
Look on EBAY for an Edison adapter reproducer.. the Diamond Disc repro comes off with a twist of the ring and the adapter goes in... plays regular 78s.. usually about $125.. mant different brands.. OroTone made a selection of good ones
"Normal" 78's are cut laterally Edison "Diamond Discs" are cut vertically, this is why you can't play a normal 78 on an Edison DD machine (without a different (adapter) reproducer, this is ALSO true the other was around, you should NEVER attempt to play an Edison DD records on a normal 78 record player (Just about every other brand that's NOT Edison). "Fun fact": Modern stereo records use a "mix" of a lateral AND vertical cut.
I have a Brunswick Ultona with the multiple head reproducer designed to play standard lateral cur records Edison and Pathe' vertical cut records too.
Edison reproducers are very difficult to find. Some Edison gramophones came with both the vertical reproducer for Victor, Columbia and other conventional 78s and the horizontal reproducer for Edison Diamond Discs.
All Sonora phonograph models including mine has a tonearm and reproducer, and it was the first fully compatible phonograph to play both lateral and vertical cut records. To play a vertical records, you have to turn the tonearm and move the reproducer to the folding position and play an Edison Diamond and Pathe record with the Sonora.
Mine has a speed control. It's purpose is not to play the record slower or faster, it's purpose is to be able to adjust the speed to attain accuracy.
Edison- "Plantation Lullaby." Wow. lol
Amazing!
Thank you!
I have one for for sale with 50 records but not sure where to place it or value it at the moment
Can you tell me where to get an Owner's Manual for a CC 32?
I have heard that one should always run the motor all the way down if you are not going to use it continuously because of stretching the spring. True?
I've heard that as well and sometimes do practice that. But I've never had a string pop. I'd be very careful not to wind it too tight.
I disagree. The spring can become detached in its barrel from the hook called an arbor. I wouldn’t touch a broken spring again for a lot of $, got badly injured trying to fix one many years ago! (Not an Edison)
one of my friends has one of these and it has something the tone arm is getting caught on something. any ideas?
I have a Victrola Edison, and it came with 2 tone arm heads and I'm wondering what the difference is. Also what oil would you recommend that we use? Thanks
+The Flying Pie Plays - The two heads allows your machine to play both Edison discs and standard 78rpm discs. On mine, I used sewing machine oil and put 4 or 5 drops it into the holes. 3-IN-ONE is the brand of oil.
+databits Ok thanks
Victrola is a product of the Victor Talking Machine Company! Not an Edison product!
Do you have any later 52K electrical recordings>
I just inherited one from my aunt and I know she used it. I am so afraid to use it since it is so old, but it is in great shape and I suppose meant to be enjoyed. There are 42 records inside (yes, the thick ones). I have not yet checked the needle, but will before we play it. I have a question, there is a medallion inside that says something like 'model 250 is the official laboratory model..." but when I look up model 250 it does not look like the one I have. Mine looks exactly like the W-19 with the crisscross attaching the legs, so I am confused. Can you help determine which model I have? Mine also has a pull handle in the center of the 'door' which pulls out a drawer that contains the records. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you so much
haydeehaydeehaydee Thank you for your comments and congrats on your inheritance! The best place for the answers you need are on this forum: edisonphonos.proboards.com/board/4/diamond-disc-phonograph-discussion-board
42 Edison discs?! Jesus Christ.....
Arif Akyuz I have over 300. Collectors do that.
A C-250 is the top priced machine. Designation changed to C-19 around 1919. The pull out drawers were early machines made between 1912-1916.
I have an Edison diamond disc but I don't have one of these. how would I play my diamond disc without one of these?
How does one replace the needle? Where may one buy a replacement diamond tipped needle. If none may be had, can one replace the needle with a regular needle and would you be able to play non-Edison records?
There are a couple video`s on here that show how to replace the stylus. You can find them, but they are not cheap, somewhere around $150 depending on where you look. You only want to use a diamond stylus made for a Edison.
I know a flea market that had one of these.
Twice I have bought a milk crate full of Edson Records for my Grandmother's machine.
I just obtained an Edison Diamond Disc Phonograph. It plays a record half way through before slowing down nio matter how much I wind it. Am I doing something wrong, or does something need to be adjusted? Thanks
It likely needs the gears cleaned and lubricated. The grease on the main spring could need replaced.
This is helpful! I inherited an Edison Diamond Disc turntable from my grandparents, and approached it knowing nothing about technology that doesn't say mp3... Thanks for the great video!
Thanks Samantha
I'm not aware of seeing an Edison player. But, I bought an Edison record around 2 weeks ago at The Salvation Army. All 78 players I have are stereo. The player of choice had a stereo mono switch. I thought it would sound better with the switch set to mono. I was dead wrong. I didn't know that Edison records were recorded differently than average 78s.
Diamond Discs *can* be played on a stereo turntable; but you will have to rewire the cartridge to play only the vertical signal.
@@Lucius1958 It actually sounds quite good with the wiring as is on my stereo record player. But the player must be set to stereo. I need to do a video of it playing. My dad passed from heart failure not too long after I bought the disc. I guess I forgot to post a video of it playing.
Why the upper slot of the wall socket on the right side is covered?
DünnschissTV baby’s or kids
The oil tubes are actually plugged with fiber at the lower end to keep the oil flowing slow and smooth.. otherwise it would just drip out all over and make a mess.. don't "clean out" your tubes.....
How do you change the needle on my Edison Disc Phonograph B19 SM 0164 and can you tell me the year of my B19 because I can not find to much information on the internet and what needle do I get for it ... Thank you Richard
Look on ebay and find a good reproducer. Replace the entire reproducer.
Edison Needles last 100 years! I know, I have 3, one (cylinder) machine from 1903, and 2 Diamond Disc machines, plus the rarer Edison Portable that does play 78’s. That one won’t play Diamond Disc records though.
Hey guys help! Can you disassemble this cabinets for transportation?
It’s oossible scratching on this record?
dont forget hide the crank, thanks for the explanation
Are the thick Edison records all "diamond discs" by definition?
Yes
My reproducer seems to be too low, every time I put it on the record it applies so much pressure that it stops the record... any tips on how to fix that?
The best advice is to watch a youtuber by the name of dyslexic genius hurt . He has a great channel with really good how too.
How can i play my new fangled OGG files on this thingy?
Joke?
Que c'est beau...
Are the discs double sided? And what kind of needles do you use? Thanks
Yes. The needle is a part of the pickup.
Needles can be replaced by a qualified restoration tech, but can easily last 100 years. I have 3, never needed to replace a needle yet, all play perfectly!
I saw one of those in Chapman Kansas at an antique store. they wanted 400 Dollars for it and it included a few records if I could have afforded it
What speed RPM does the Edison play ? The same as the Gramaphones?
80rpm
Can you tell me how to insert a needle? My 1903 Edison was gifted to me from the family of my cousin who passed away and there was no needle. I put chased a package of needles on eBay but I am not familiar with installing a needle. Thank you!
An Edison diamond disc phonograph does not use steel needles. It actually uses a diamond tip needle. You would need to acquire a completely new needle from eBay or some other source. But do not use steel needles.
Can you play pathe records. They use the same hill and dale system
Pathé records used a much larger sapphire ball stylus, and were recorded at a much coarser thread than Edison discs.
You *might* be able to play *some* Pathés with a suitable adaptor and stylus; but their early etched label discs play from the inside out, and would not be playable on an Edison machine.
Can Edison diamond discs be used on my Columbia victrola?
No
Can you play Edison records on a normal turn table autotechnica 120? Or do you need a specific needle
Yes, you can! Swap the right channel wires around (usually red and green) and you're good to go! You don't HAVE to have an Edison Diamond Disc phonograph to play Edison Diamond Discs!
Diamond Discs are vertically cut records, as to the more common horizontally cut records. It won't sound correct on a machine that isn't designed to play vertically cut records.
Edison discs are recorded in a series of bumps and troughs, standard vinyl records are side to side. You'd probably mess up your stylus if you tried an Edison on a modern turntable
You can play Edison discs perfectly on a modern player if you can vary the speed and have a pre-amplifier with proper equalisation and correct stylus size. Please visit "The Edison Man" RUclips channel.
You may not need to rewire the record player. Regular vinyl records are Mid-Side-modulated. The Mid-Part (Mono downmix) is cut horizontally. The side part (Stereo difference) is cut vertically. If you play a Diamond Disc instead (using correct needle), the record player would treat the vertical cut mono signal as pure stereo difference. That will end up in antiphased mono playback. To prevent that, just unplug one of the audio cables plugged into the amp (and switch the amp to mono to have both speakers working :-)).
you think using hardware store oil is bad?
sometimes I use
*_vegetable oil_*
to lubricate stuff 😳😳😳
personally I would use fine machine oil, like sewing machine oil, and not 3 in 1. 3 in one will gum up the works after some time.
Hasn't yet! And that was many years ago.
mine is slow i cranked it just like you said and more and i did every thing right what should i do
its an older one than this so it has that speed nob
+josh cowan model A-100 if that helps
+josh cowan - I suggest joining this forum: forum.talkingmachine.info/ and presenting your question there. best of luck with it!
+josh cowan - I suggest joining this forum: forum.talkingmachine.info/ and presenting your question there. best of luck with it!
+databits so i got a wilcox gay recordette and the cutting head and needle doesn't work (there both on the same tonearm
I have an "LC-38" Edison Disk Phonograph" player. Serial number 21440. Is it a "diamond disc"? I also have about 50 records that go with it (the real thick ones.) Are the records, which are only in "fair" shape but definitely playable, worth anything? Is this player worth restoring? Thanks for any help. The machine belonged to my great-grandparents.
F.M. Scott Yes, you have a Diamond Disc. The records, depending on the number series, may be worth a lot or very little. Discs in the 52,000 series and above are highly prized. Also, one disc with Edison's voice on it is worth quite a bit. The player, when working, could be worth a couple hundred dollars. I paid about $150 for mine working. Search LC-38 on ebay for current values.