Haha, I'm a guitarist that bought edrums to record.. Kinda wanting an acoustic kit now that I can actually play them, but I'm nowhere near recording level, so quantize is huge for my ass.
IMO if you play acoustic live, you should practice on an acoustic. You just have to think about so many more things, and dynamics is really an art form on acoustic drums. E-drums, not so much.
I have both and I’d say just use electric they are cheaper some of them and they are just to practice and get you to know it better once you learn how to play really good I’d say love on to the noisier one (acoustic) unless you have a sound proof room with foam mats all over it just buy acoustic scince you can start with a a small kit and keep on adding as you get more money it depends what you want and if your acually gona play it and learn it
Under the right circumstances yes. Acoustic are better. But required are good drum heads and cymbal, drums tuned, great snare and kick, good recording space, lots of microphones and cables, and a good sound engineer who knows how to record drum sounds. Not everyone has access so these things...
for live it depends on the situation. Smaller venues don't do well with acoustic drums, and the overall band sound is destroyed by unmic'd, unprocessed acoustic drums. E-kits sound virtually the same wherever they are, quiet or loud. Basically if you're not playing a venue where the PA is covering the acoustic sound of the drums, a good e-kit will sound better.
It really comes down to personal choice. My last band gigged for 11 years with VDrums and for me there was nothing better. I have full control of the bands sound and volume and it allowed us to scale our show from the smallest of settings to large venues. Also for recording it saves a lot of time tuning drums, miking and sound checking. Onstage the ability to hear everything so clearly without the acoustic kit was a hug advantage and I saved myself 11 years of ear fatigue... Again it has it's place...
That is real pro feedback. We think the triggering has places where it can go wrong? Live sound and recording has so many places where the sound is lost, based on the mics, the room and type of music being played. So thanks Donald. It would be interesting to get a reading of who (in these responses) is playing gigs and recording in relationship or contrast to who is playing in a controlled setting (no recording, or filling a venue with a live performance).
@@sharonsterner8854isagree TOTALLY! The Alesis Strike Pro/Pro SE, is/are an AMAZING instrument. Not to mention most live acoustic drummers use Triggers. So they’re essentially Hybrid E-Kits. The question I pose is: Is an Electric Guitar, not as real as an Acoustic Guitar? Let’s face it…The future of drums is ELECTRONIC. Why else do we have Triggers for our Acoustic Kits? To get the sound we want ELECTRONICALLY! I own many vintage Acoustic Kits, and love every one. And I proudly own a triple Module Alesis Strike Pro, with 23 drums 3 down Floor Toms (14” far Left,16”,18”) 5 up Rack Toms(8”,10”,12”, 12”,14” L to R), 4 far left side hanging Roto-Toms(8”, 8”,10”,12”), 4 hanging center Octobans (8”,8”,8”,8”), 1 far right hanging Gong drum (16”)2 Bass Drums(20”,20”),1 aux R side Bass Drum (14”), 1 Dual Piezo Trigger Blast Beater Far Right (fires on the single petal downstroke and the upstroke when it returns to position), a Snare(14”), and a Piccolo (12”). With ALL 20:00 25 METAL E-Cymbals, including METAL Electronic Hi Hats 14” (on conventual left), 13” Aux Hats(center right). And there’s a boat load of 14,000 multi layered samples, for realism, that I can tune my drums and cymbals to whatever brand, tone, decay, and pitch and even particular Artists signature sounds. Basically, play any and every Drum or Cymbal made-There’s even a TAMA Bell Brass Snare. I can play LOUD (3000+ watts PA), quietly (depending on venue, or room size), or silent (with headphones), I can easily record myself, and the rest of band mates, very easily. It did cost a considerable amount of cash to achieve this level of realism, but no more than a super hi-end Acoustic Drum Set & super hi-end Cymbals. So realistically E-Kits are the future, and the future is now. I’m not bragging or trying to argue-just trying to bust up the stigma of E-Kits not being as good as Acoustic Kits. However, I respect all of your opinions. ✌🏼&❤️😎 🥁
@@emilsunter3596 I never said eDrums weren't "real" drums, Of course they are. We have 2 sets in our studio now. I'm just saying, and I am NOT a drummer, but have lived w/one for 29 years and know a few pros...Roland VDrums, to me are higher quality. Neil Peart had a VDrums kit connect to his acoustic kit, which was amazing. As for all the other stuff, it's more than I mentioned. And I'm well aware of the benefits and the sounds, tiggers etc... that come w/most kits, plus adding ur own. Edrums are a great addition to any studio, right beside an acoustic kit.
I use to play an acoustic drum kit when I 1st started to practice/play, but when I started to play gigs, majority of them were very small size venues (mostly coffee shops), and ppl complained that the band was too loud, so I had to use blast sticks, now those worked, but they're not great for doing ghost notes, drums rolls, play fast tempo, stuff like that, and they easily broke, so I went to Edrums, and it was far better to play! I was able to control the vol., compress the sound, have percussion, the list goes on. If you're not happy with the feel of the heads on the Edrums, I HIGHLY recommend drum tec's real feel heads, I did that, and what a difference! happy drumming!
Before COVID I had this jam with two acoustic guitarists/ vocalists, with my trusty Roland TD9. The gigs were small to medium. Getting a mix was easy, just turn the volume knob. We could be as quiet or as loud as our PA would let us. Also you can use big sticking action at lower volumes.
For the sound category, it would depend largely on the samples and output equipment used for the electric drums. I used to have an acoustic drum set, and it generally couldn't give me any sounds that sounded near as good as what I would hear in say a Toontrack drum sample library. It really depends on the situation. Also, acoustic kits require far more maintenance to regularly sound good.
As a kid when I got my first acoustic drum kit I love them. But then over time I realized that they didn't sound anything close to the drums on records and tapes that I was listening to. I used to try to dampen the toms by putting narrow strips of material under the heads which worked. But only to a certain degree. I upgraded the Skins to Remo pinstripe which was the best I could find at the time and Meinl and Paiste cymbals, but it was all in vain because you just can't get away from that awful din that Acoustics produce. A lot of rock drummers from the 70s and 80s are half deaf due to practicing for hours on end on very loud acoustic drums. No matter what I did they still did not sound like the drums on the recordings I was listening to. When I discovered Roland electronic drums that was it, I was sold, and I sold my acoustic drums and I never went back there. For me it's all about sound quality I don't care how Rubber pads, feel I don't care how mesh pads feel I want sound quality and I want to be able to control the volume without making myself deaf. Not to mention having to cart around massive heavy acoustic drums and of course all the cymbal stands along with it. I'll never go back to acoustics. On edrums you also have about 20 diff kits to choose from and can custom design your own using l, the huge amount of samples available. No broken sticks, no tuning drums, no replacing heads, no cracked cymbals, no mics - two guitar cables and BANG - stereo, studio quality sound. The manager of the music shop I frequent , says that 75% of drums sales are edrums, and he predicted that if some acoustic manufacturers don't adapt - they'll go out of business. Everywhere I look I see people wanting to sell their acoustics to upgrade to edrums. Unfortunately good sound doesn't come cheap, and edrums are very expensive for the more upmarket ones, but with acoustics, it's not just the kit you have to buy, its the cymbals too. I can literally fold up my entire edrum kit and put it over my shoulder and head out. I've played at popular venues where the sound guys say they've NEVER heard drums sound like that through their PA's. 😊
I've been learning on an acoustic kit for the last several months. 2 days ago I ordered a Roland td-17kvx2. I should have started with that. As a very beginner I think my acoustic kit sounds terrible (my playing does too 😅) and I don't know how to tune them correctly and I don't want to buy new heads for the toms and bass. And another thing is I totally underestimated how loud it is. My neighbors are a ways away but sometimes I want to practice late at night. I'll probably hold on to the acoustic kit for a while to jump back and forth for a bit but then I can see myself selling it.
I definitely agree with the final result - ever since I started playing drums I have spent an equal amount of time on acoustic and electric. And I love both. They are both amazing at different things, but are both so good. They must be categoriesed as different instruments like keyboards and piano. The only difference I would have made, was to swap the winners of the first and last round around, as (in the sound category) you can still tune, and make your kit responsive to ghost notes on an e kit by changing sensitivity settings, and on an e kit, you can basically get an unlimited amount of sounds and configurations out of your kit, especially if you use a plug in. Where with the acoustic, you can only do so much to change the sound, and changing the sound dosen't come with the touch of a button like e kit. The last round, even though an e kit saves you buying more sticks, you can use brushes, hotrod, mullets, and so many other styles of stick, giving you a different sound and feel. On the e kit, no matter what tool you used to hit the pad, you always get the same sound. So for sticks, it depends If you are talking about price or sounds.
I have a $5,000 Roland kit and would happily trade it for an acoustic set if I lived in a place where noise was not an issue. Bottom line is if you want the purest sound and most important play-ability the acoustic set is far superior, especially the cymbals.
With a little less playability (Little flatter dynamics) and huge booster in rebound, which is not good actually you would have the same or even better sounds using 2box module than on most of acoustics drums.
I live in an apartment in a capital city in Europe and I have both an electronic kit and an acoustic kit. Hands down the acoustic kit wins. It’s just so much more pleasure to play. I use Zildjian low volume cymbals and Remo silent stroke heads in the acoustic kit they really narrow the sound down by 80% it’s perfect I can comfortably play the acoustic kit in my apartment.
Why does the electric kit not chew up the styx? Rubber on the rims of the drums, rubber cymbals and/or plastic cymbals. The heads on the e kits lasts much longer too.
@@ArshMoossharmA i dont understand, that fill sounds very fast but the hand movement doesnt look fast, so im wondering how to do it. Seen that fill many times but i have no idea how to.
Personally, what I lose in dynamics is well worth what I gain overall, both in recording, rehearsal and live play. I don't do any pro recording, just stuff to promote the band and to learn from. No mics needed and I can change the snare etc with a push of a button. Rehearsal, hands down the E kit is superior. The drums easily fit into the mix with a full band and even in a small room, the vocals are still on top. Practicing with headphones is a blessing. Live play, no open mics on stage is a huge plus. The snare and cymbals are never too loud and the toms are never buried. Of course you need a proper PA to handle them but I have that. The annoying sound of the sticks hitting the cymbals is tough but I always play loud enough to cover it up. Even in a quiet band rehearsal, I turn the instruments up enough to almost cover it. Also, no ear protection is required. The E drums allow us to have minimal stage volume, especially if everyone else is going through the PA.
I was really struggling with this, at first I wanted a acoustic drum set as my first drum set but the I realized that, Electric Drum sets were better for beginners. Thank you for this information!
I practice 90% of the time with an e-kit, although I prefer to have a couple of pre-gig rehearsals using the acoustic kit. You do need to re-adjust your playing/feel/dynamics whenever you've spent too much 'consecutive" time on the e-kits... You don't want things to sound and feel weird in your opening songs, and if you don't adjust quick and proper, you're in for a long "stressed out" night... lol
I was afraid to buy an acoustic kit cuz of its treatment and mics setup but when i bought it that even without mics they are amazing such a raw and powerfull sound with no effects and robotic things
The thing I like the most out of an E kit is if you don't like the sound of a kick, snare, tom or whatever, you can always change it out. Where as with an acoustic you have a chance of just getting bored of the sound of it, but you're stuck with the sound unless you wanna spend 100 or more for another snare or whatever. And honestly I'm not really a fan of how the modern day drums sound anyways. I think they sound too weak. I miss the older drum kits. So I stick with E-drums so I can put in my OWN sounds and how I want it to sound. I think too if you wanna record an E drumset, it would be cheaper to do so because with an acoustic you'd have to buy mics for EACH drum and that can run into a lot of money. Also thinking about that, that can get in the way.
E-drums have such an advantage in so many situations for the non-studio, amateur drummer. I think it’s more of a use-case thing, not so much a head-to-head one. Having both would be ideal, but even for people deciding wholly to use one or the other, it’ll still come down to use-case.
Good job! I like it. Thats fair enough to not have the winner cause these drum sets are completely different and good enough in different situations. E-drums are perfect for home practicing and the acoustic one is classic for concerts.
Finally just naught a new acoustic drum set after having the Alesis command x for a few years. I’m so exited to get back to the clearly better type of drums
This is a great video. I never really had a decent Acoustic Kit (it was cheap, poorly setup and sounded like shit lol and I used duck taped brushes to keep the levels low) but when I demo'd a TD30KV I fell in love with it, it was almost like the real thing to me at the time. But over the years as I got better and found it had to express my playing and the stage presence was not amazing so I did the only thing I could and made a custom A2E (7Pc Tama Superstar Classic + TD50 all 16 inputs maxed out/plus TD27 for extra digital inputs, Digital: snare, x2 rides, HH and the Roland Thin cymbal line and I use SD3 cause Roland sounds suck) and it added a lot of depth to the stale, bouncy, shaky and weak sounding TD30/TD50. But I know it's still nowhere near what an Acoustic kit wold feel and sound like and it's holding me back some...but it's the only way I can have a drum kit at this time and am grateful these options are available to us.
Definitely Acoustic are superior in every way, but I can't play loud drums in my house, so e drums are the only option. Unfortunately I just can't find a hi-hat that works nice. The hats are their own instrument, and I love to constantly be changing the feel/pressure on my hat pedal.
I have played acoustic all my life. I now own a Roland TD50kv2, which is an industry standard. If I had a choice to keep only one. I’m sticking with electronic. It just so much fun and much more versatile.
You should always take an e-drum as a replacement for an acoustic drum, where an acoustic drum can not or hardly be used, e.g. because of sound level or size. Especially, if you than stick to the e-drums and do not always change in between them, they are absolutely fantastic! I do never want to get back to the time where after some hours of practicing, you were hearing impaired because everybody had to adjust the level to the drummer.
I have had three electronic Roland drum sets and spent a lot of time trying to make them sound more acoustic, the feel of the rubber plastic cymbals were my biggest hate. So I gave up and went back to acoustic and never regretted it. We have a band room so disturbing the neighbours is not an issue. It’s horses for courses, yes the drum sticks are an issue with acoustics but I like the rim shots on an acoustic more. Good video 👍🏻
Record same parts on both. Wherever more low end is needed increase volume of electric kit and for high end use acoustic. Always combine both while recording and use only one live
I prefer edrums because you can get wild on it, hit it as hard as you want without bothering anyone. You cant go wild on an acoustic drums without making enemies. Unless you have a dedicated sound proofed room for your acoustic drums, only then is the acoustic better. Btw this is the best comparison video on acoustic and edrums.
Im lucky to have both a high end Ludwig and a Roland Virtual Acoustic VAD503 and the Dynamics and feel of the roland are really close to the real kit. The Digital pads of roland really make a difference and you can even play with brushes smh. I like both and don't find issues going back and forth between them
I think that’s the most gorgeous PDP kit i’ve ever seen! Had no idea they had stepped it up so much! That snare sounds magnificent too! BTW i just got the black n red DDrum Hybrid 5 kit with the Mapex all black hardware and double kick and love it! It’s the best of both worlds! I do wish i had that Alesis module you have though,that would be rad! I’m getting the Paiste Red cymbal set soon to match the rest of the kit!
8:04 Ive been waiting for this exact video. Im about to buy this Alesis kit and Ive been searching to see how loud it is. Looks like lll be good to go for an apartment!
@Alejandro, I kinda disagree about the 1st comparison (Sound), because even with basic Yamaha DTX6K, other brands not sure.. you can tune in very detail for each crash, cymbal, snare, tom, all of them. Every detail tunings are possible and quite easy yo do, you can even upload the recorded sound of your specific acoustic unit (hi-hat, bell, snare, etc.. you name it). So seeing the above.. e-drum wins actually. But indeed about the feel, ;mesh head and rubber crash are not a fun things to play with.. however, again, Yamaha silicon snares & toms are great! Disclaimer: I'm not from Yamaha, their distributor, sales, or anything else. I ended up fall in love with Yamaha, not Alesis, or even Roland, because of Yamaha's silicon pad and practicality of the sound upload and recording, superb, even for the basic one I have. I'm far from pro, just a layman, starting to pick up a very old buried hobby. Love your videos, bro! Cheers! 😉🍻
I'm perfectly comfortable using acoustic or electronic drums in most situations. E-drums have come a long way. Back in the 80's they were abysmal but even then I added an 8 pad drum machine to my kit. Sure in an arena a giant 17pc set looks amazing but a giant pain to set up. Many major recording artists now tour with 5 and even 4 pc sets. The biggest thing for me is cymbals, e-cymbals still have a ways to go. They sound good enough but most only have 2 triggers, edge and middle, no bell. Some do silence decently though. You can't get the versatility out of e-cymbals that you can out of real ones. Outside of that I think e-drums are good enough for most situations. *edited for typos"
I prefer playing on acoustic, but, for me practicing at home and not in the practice rooms at my school it's definitely worth me getting the electric for 2 reasons. 1 I can probably plug headphones in. 2 turning volume down. Acoustic are better for performances and studio recording, e-drums for practicing at home and recording.
I agree with the FEEL of the Electric Drums.. I have been playing for 5 years with my Electric drums, and so far, It's good. Although the first 3 years I have been playing with it, My hands were like ' WHEN WILL THIS END! ' But after it, My hands moved on, and it didn't hurt. The funny thing is that I Played an acoustic set in a Music store and I broke the stick, My hand was like ' Hit it harder, HARDER! ' so My church decided to have an Electric Drum rather than the Acoustic.
I have both an acoustic and e-drum at home. My wife suffers from hyperacusis (sensitive hearing). When she’s home I will use my e-drum as the sound of the pads doesn’t really travel through the walls. And when she’s not home I go ham on the acoustic. I prefer the acoustic overall… but the e-drum definitely has its place.
One thing that I have learned is to record the E-Drums with midi maybe the first 1-2 times through. Listen to the playback and you can adjust your velocity errors through midi. Once you have everything good, play back and record the audio.
Been drumming for 20 years so I'd agree the acoustic is better in all aspects. The only reason I have an ekit is because it makes it easier to practice in an apt but you can still get your exercise in and move them on to the big kit. Super convenient and it seems like they just keep improving on making them sound and feel like a real kit every year.
Acoustic drum kits are overrated, if you ask me. They're nice to look at but...... way to loud and limited. It doesn't unleash as much creativity out of the box, as the nicer electronic kits do, at the push of a dial. You can have an electric kit go thru a midi controller or some kind of mixer, then to a computer as your brain instead of a electronic drum module. Lots of software plugins out there today. Lot's of configuration options for the e-kits future, without end.
In the end .. it's all about what we love ... ..nice teaching ... Though i have only seen e kit like four boxes ... Can't figure out what is what .... Only saw acoustic drum kit in its complete sense .. never been a drummer ... Was only a vocalist for a while ...
After playing five different Drum set. From the Roland TD 1 K. To Roland TD 17 K. And ATV E xs 2 and exs 3. I would say that the E drum set with all mesh head which are 10 inch or larger. would have better fuel than a acoustic one, that's just my opinion. And with the edrum, you can hitting drums and symbols really hard and that's essential for beginners to learn. The acoustic drum set is loud as hell.
I disagree with the looks part. I genuinely think the e-kit looks better for the most part. Sure you can design your acoustic drumset freely, but just the color combinations that they usually put with the black on the e-kit and the design of the cymbals, toms, and snare are just way better in my eyes. You can even make the wires look neat by tying them together. So I think the e-kit wins that one.
It’s no competition is it ! the acoustic drums are a different thing altogether. The electronic drums have there place but it’s an easy win for the acoustics for me 👍
A e-drum might be very useful, like in a flat. But I think a real drummer would always choose the acoustic drum -for feel, sound and look. It is just something different…
Mix the two sets together the sounds are limitless. That's what I did, it's Luke having 28 sets in one. If I have a small place to setup at I take my e-kit . Gives me several kits to choose from in a little space. Plus if want to use my Amp for small clubs I can. And if I don't want to lug around my Amp I can hook up to the clubs sound system.
You missed two very important things: tunning and price. As e-drums doesn't need for tunning in comparison to acoustic instruments is a clear point for e-drum. And yeah, today you can buy a very decent acoustic set with cymbals for more or less the price of a good entry level e-drum set, that doesn't include the mics you need to record properly your sessions. Anyway great review, I wish to see this when I bought my first set, I had many doubts. Now I only have e-drums not only because my neighbors, but also because of my girlfriend, noise bothers everybody, but if I have the choice to find a place where I can play without disturbing anybody, definitely going to get an acoustic set, everything you said is correct.
I have one more test for you: How much does it cost in replacement parts. On an acoustic kit, you have to replace the skins and the cymbals. And even though you may have to replace your mesh heads, I'm pretty sure it's less often than the skins on your acoustic kit.
I don't have the option to go acoustic. Though not a beginner, the Strike Pro is my first kit, literally just ordered one today! I'm a guitarist/bassist by trade and also play rudimentary keys. I understand drumming, have programed my own stuff since 1983, have played different times on cajon and a real kit, but don't have the option for my studio. It's a new journey for me.
I think that e-drums are prefect for recording and practicing in your house, and the acoustic is worth for live situations and studio recording.
Haha, I'm a guitarist that bought edrums to record.. Kinda wanting an acoustic kit now that I can actually play them, but I'm nowhere near recording level, so quantize is huge for my ass.
IMO if you play acoustic live, you should practice on an acoustic. You just have to think about so many more things, and dynamics is really an art form on acoustic drums. E-drums, not so much.
I have both and I’d say just use electric they are cheaper some of them and they are just to practice and get you to know it better once you learn how to play really good I’d say love on to the noisier one (acoustic) unless you have a sound proof room with foam mats all over it just buy acoustic scince you can start with a a small kit and keep on adding as you get more money it depends what you want and if your acually gona play it and learn it
Under the right circumstances yes. Acoustic are better. But required are good drum heads and cymbal, drums tuned, great snare and kick, good recording space, lots of microphones and cables, and a good sound engineer who knows how to record drum sounds. Not everyone has access so these things...
for live it depends on the situation. Smaller venues don't do well with acoustic drums, and the overall band sound is destroyed by unmic'd, unprocessed acoustic drums. E-kits sound virtually the same wherever they are, quiet or loud. Basically if you're not playing a venue where the PA is covering the acoustic sound of the drums, a good e-kit will sound better.
Nothing beats acoustic drums
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Well I beat on them everytime while playing 😂
It really comes down to personal choice. My last band gigged for 11 years with VDrums and for me there was nothing better. I have full control of the bands sound and volume and it allowed us to scale our show from the smallest of settings to large venues. Also for recording it saves a lot of time tuning drums, miking and sound checking. Onstage the ability to hear everything so clearly without the acoustic kit was a hug advantage and I saved myself 11 years of ear fatigue... Again it has it's place...
Good points
He's using a inferior digital kit. Roland, MUCH better. Can't go wrong.
That is real pro feedback. We think the triggering has places where it can go wrong? Live sound and recording has so many places where the sound is lost, based on the mics, the room and type of music being played.
So thanks Donald. It would be interesting to get a reading of who (in these responses) is playing gigs and recording in relationship or contrast to who is playing in a controlled setting (no recording, or filling a venue with a live performance).
@@sharonsterner8854isagree TOTALLY! The Alesis Strike Pro/Pro SE, is/are an AMAZING instrument. Not to mention most live acoustic drummers use Triggers. So they’re essentially Hybrid E-Kits. The question I pose is: Is an Electric Guitar, not as real as an Acoustic Guitar? Let’s face it…The future of drums is ELECTRONIC. Why else do we have Triggers for our Acoustic Kits? To get the sound we want ELECTRONICALLY! I own many vintage Acoustic Kits, and love every one. And I proudly own a triple Module Alesis Strike Pro, with 23 drums 3 down Floor Toms (14” far Left,16”,18”) 5 up Rack Toms(8”,10”,12”, 12”,14” L to R), 4 far left side hanging Roto-Toms(8”, 8”,10”,12”), 4 hanging center Octobans (8”,8”,8”,8”), 1 far right hanging Gong drum (16”)2 Bass Drums(20”,20”),1 aux R side Bass Drum (14”), 1 Dual Piezo Trigger Blast Beater Far Right (fires on the single petal downstroke and the upstroke when it returns to position), a Snare(14”), and a Piccolo (12”). With ALL 20:00 25 METAL E-Cymbals, including METAL Electronic Hi Hats 14” (on conventual left), 13” Aux Hats(center right). And there’s a boat load of 14,000 multi layered samples, for realism, that I can tune my drums and cymbals to whatever brand, tone, decay, and pitch and even particular Artists signature sounds. Basically, play any and every Drum or Cymbal made-There’s even a TAMA Bell Brass Snare. I can play LOUD (3000+ watts PA), quietly (depending on venue, or room size), or silent (with headphones), I can easily record myself, and the rest of band mates, very easily. It did cost a considerable amount of cash to achieve this level of realism, but no more than a super hi-end Acoustic Drum Set & super hi-end Cymbals. So realistically E-Kits are the future, and the future is now. I’m not bragging or trying to argue-just trying to bust up the stigma of E-Kits not being as good as Acoustic Kits. However, I respect all of your opinions. ✌🏼&❤️😎
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@@emilsunter3596 I never said eDrums weren't "real" drums, Of course they are. We have 2 sets in our studio now.
I'm just saying, and I am NOT a drummer, but have lived w/one for 29 years and know a few pros...Roland VDrums, to me are higher quality.
Neil Peart had a VDrums kit connect to his acoustic kit, which was amazing.
As for all the other stuff, it's more than I mentioned.
And I'm well aware of the benefits and the sounds, tiggers etc... that come w/most kits, plus adding ur own.
Edrums are a great addition to any studio, right beside an acoustic kit.
I use to play an acoustic drum kit when I 1st started to practice/play, but when I started to play gigs, majority of them were very small size venues (mostly coffee shops), and ppl complained that the band was too loud, so I had to use blast sticks, now those worked, but they're not great for doing ghost notes, drums rolls, play fast tempo, stuff like that, and they easily broke, so I went to Edrums, and it was far better to play! I was able to control the vol., compress the sound, have percussion, the list goes on.
If you're not happy with the feel of the heads on the Edrums, I HIGHLY recommend drum tec's real feel heads, I did that, and what a difference!
happy drumming!
Before COVID I had this jam with two acoustic guitarists/ vocalists, with my trusty Roland TD9. The gigs were small to medium. Getting a mix was easy, just turn the volume knob. We could be as quiet or as loud as our PA would let us. Also you can use big sticking action at lower volumes.
For the sound category, it would depend largely on the samples and output equipment used for the electric drums.
I used to have an acoustic drum set, and it generally couldn't give me any sounds that sounded near as good as what I would hear in say a Toontrack drum sample library.
It really depends on the situation.
Also, acoustic kits require far more maintenance to regularly sound good.
And which model of electric battery do you recommend? I’m planning to get one
I use vdrums and they sound like a professional recorded it (just the sound not the playing)
Edrums for a small home where noise may be an issue, acoustic if you can get away with it. Just get any drum set and play it’s fun either way
As a kid when I got my first acoustic drum kit I love them. But then over time I realized that they didn't sound anything close to the drums on records and tapes that I was listening to. I used to try to dampen the toms by putting narrow strips of material under the heads which worked. But only to a certain degree. I upgraded the Skins to Remo pinstripe which was the best I could find at the time and Meinl and Paiste cymbals, but it was all in vain because you just can't get away from that awful din that Acoustics produce. A lot of rock drummers from the 70s and 80s are half deaf due to practicing for hours on end on very loud acoustic drums. No matter what I did they still did not sound like the drums on the recordings I was listening to. When I discovered Roland electronic drums that was it, I was sold, and I sold my acoustic drums and I never went back there. For me it's all about sound quality I don't care how Rubber pads, feel I don't care how mesh pads feel I want sound quality and I want to be able to control the volume without making myself deaf. Not to mention having to cart around massive heavy acoustic drums and of course all the cymbal stands along with it. I'll never go back to acoustics. On edrums you also have about 20 diff kits to choose from and can custom design your own using l, the huge amount of samples available.
No broken sticks, no tuning drums, no replacing heads, no cracked cymbals, no mics - two guitar cables and BANG - stereo, studio quality sound.
The manager of the music shop I frequent , says that 75% of drums sales are edrums, and he predicted that if some acoustic manufacturers don't adapt - they'll go out of business. Everywhere I look I see people wanting to sell their acoustics to upgrade to edrums.
Unfortunately good sound doesn't come cheap, and edrums are very expensive for the more upmarket ones, but with acoustics, it's not just the kit you have to buy, its the cymbals too. I can literally fold up my entire edrum kit and put it over my shoulder and head out. I've played at popular venues where the sound guys say they've NEVER heard drums sound like that through their PA's. 😊
I've been learning on an acoustic kit for the last several months. 2 days ago I ordered a Roland td-17kvx2. I should have started with that. As a very beginner I think my acoustic kit sounds terrible (my playing does too 😅) and I don't know how to tune them correctly and I don't want to buy new heads for the toms and bass. And another thing is I totally underestimated how loud it is. My neighbors are a ways away but sometimes I want to practice late at night. I'll probably hold on to the acoustic kit for a while to jump back and forth for a bit but then I can see myself selling it.
@@lobbyrobbyEdrums aren't for everyone, but they're taking over. 👍🏻
I definitely agree with the final result - ever since I started playing drums I have spent an equal amount of time on acoustic and electric. And I love both. They are both amazing at different things, but are both so good. They must be categoriesed as different instruments like keyboards and piano. The only difference I would have made, was to swap the winners of the first and last round around, as (in the sound category) you can still tune, and make your kit responsive to ghost notes on an e kit by changing sensitivity settings, and on an e kit, you can basically get an unlimited amount of sounds and configurations out of your kit, especially if you use a plug in. Where with the acoustic, you can only do so much to change the sound, and changing the sound dosen't come with the touch of a button like e kit. The last round, even though an e kit saves you buying more sticks, you can use brushes, hotrod, mullets, and so many other styles of stick, giving you a different sound and feel. On the e kit, no matter what tool you used to hit the pad, you always get the same sound. So for sticks, it depends If you are talking about price or sounds.
That is awesome! That's the perfect comparison like keyboard and piano! That is true! You can use more variety of sticks with acoustic! That's great!
They sounds so good played together. It's hard to dislike. Perfectly mixed
I have a $5,000 Roland kit and would happily trade it for an acoustic set if I lived in a place where noise was not an issue. Bottom line is if you want the purest sound and most important play-ability the acoustic set is far superior, especially the cymbals.
With a little less playability (Little flatter dynamics) and huge booster in rebound, which is not good actually you would have the same or even better sounds using 2box module than on most of acoustics drums.
Same i have the 27kv
Yea that’s the only reason I need an electric set. Noise. But I swear I’m gonna get an acoustic set when noise isn’t an issue
I live in an apartment in a capital city in Europe and I have both an electronic kit and an acoustic kit. Hands down the acoustic kit wins. It’s just so much more pleasure to play. I use Zildjian low volume cymbals and Remo silent stroke heads in the acoustic kit they really narrow the sound down by 80% it’s perfect I can comfortably play the acoustic kit in my apartment.
Woow. I love the balance you've stricken between the two. Amazing video.
Why does the electric kit not chew up the styx? Rubber on the rims of the drums, rubber cymbals and/or plastic cymbals. The heads on the e kits lasts much longer too.
Amazing video! I would like to see more drum lessons because I am starting in a few days! Thank you for the inspiration! Keep the good work!
More to come! Thanks to you for all the support!
How’s your drum journey coming along?
let’s not talk about how smooth that fill was at 9:35
Hey Lulu, thank u so much for that!
can you tell me the name of the drum fill? I want to learn it
@@AlejandroSifuentescan you tell me the name of the drum fill? I want to learn it
Bro, it's a simple fill. I can show you what it is with these simple notes s=snare k=kick t=toms sskkttkkttkk(s and t together)
@@ArshMoossharmA i dont understand, that fill sounds very fast but the hand movement doesnt look fast, so im wondering how to do it. Seen that fill many times but i have no idea how to.
Personally, what I lose in dynamics is well worth what I gain overall, both in recording, rehearsal and live play. I don't do any pro recording, just stuff to promote the band and to learn from. No mics needed and I can change the snare etc with a push of a button.
Rehearsal, hands down the E kit is superior. The drums easily fit into the mix with a full band and even in a small room, the vocals are still on top. Practicing with headphones is a blessing.
Live play, no open mics on stage is a huge plus. The snare and cymbals are never too loud and the toms are never buried. Of course you need a proper PA to handle them but I have that. The annoying sound of the sticks hitting the cymbals is tough but I always play loud enough to cover it up. Even in a quiet band rehearsal, I turn the instruments up enough to almost cover it. Also, no ear protection is required. The E drums allow us to have minimal stage volume, especially if everyone else is going through the PA.
I was really struggling with this, at first I wanted a acoustic drum set as my first drum set but the I realized that, Electric Drum sets were better for beginners. Thank you for this information!
When it comes to the dynamics of your strike pro kit, you get much better results when you set the sensitivities specific to your playing.
I had that same same Alesis kit and took it back for a Roland V Drum set. The Alesis is incredible, but Roland has the best eDrums hands down.
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I practice 90% of the time with an e-kit, although I prefer to have a couple of pre-gig rehearsals using the acoustic kit.
You do need to re-adjust your playing/feel/dynamics whenever you've spent too much 'consecutive" time on the e-kits...
You don't want things to sound and feel weird in your opening songs, and if you don't adjust quick and proper, you're in for a long "stressed out" night... lol
A good acoustic is very expensive, but you can buy a electric kit for less than 500 bucks that has good sound on it
I was afraid to buy an acoustic kit cuz of its treatment and mics setup
but when i bought it that even without mics they are amazing such a raw and powerfull sound with no effects and robotic things
The thing I like the most out of an E kit is if you don't like the sound of a kick, snare, tom or whatever, you can always change it out. Where as with an acoustic you have a chance of just getting bored of the sound of it, but you're stuck with the sound unless you wanna spend 100 or more for another snare or whatever. And honestly I'm not really a fan of how the modern day drums sound anyways. I think they sound too weak. I miss the older drum kits. So I stick with E-drums so I can put in my OWN sounds and how I want it to sound.
I think too if you wanna record an E drumset, it would be cheaper to do so because with an acoustic you'd have to buy mics for EACH drum and that can run into a lot of money. Also thinking about that, that can get in the way.
E-drums have such an advantage in so many situations for the non-studio, amateur drummer. I think it’s more of a use-case thing, not so much a head-to-head one. Having both would be ideal, but even for people deciding wholly to use one or the other, it’ll still come down to use-case.
I've got an acoustic kit and I CANNOT imagine anything better!
They are absolutely amazing!
I prefer electric because the silence lol
But being able to have an 808 sound out of the kick for hip hop beats is so fun sometimes
@@chukfunk yea but the acoustic kit is perfect for regular practice
what kit did u get? im trying to get into drumming, acoustics for sure caught my eye but there are so many options its overwhelming lol.
Good job! I like it. Thats fair enough to not have the winner cause these drum sets are completely different and good enough in different situations. E-drums are perfect for home practicing and the acoustic one is classic for concerts.
I definitely agree with the result! This vid was so entertaining!!!… You made me laugh a couple of times lol
Thank u so much, really glad it made you laugh!
Finally just naught a new acoustic drum set after having the Alesis command x for a few years. I’m so exited to get back to the clearly better type of drums
That is amazing! Back to acoustics!
Even tho electronic kits have diff options and its more easier to move around , i would still go for the Acoustic !! GREAT VID !! LOVED IT :)
That is true! Easier to move around! Both are beautiful! THANK U SO MUCH!
This is a great video. I never really had a decent Acoustic Kit (it was cheap, poorly setup and sounded like shit lol and I used duck taped brushes to keep the levels low) but when I demo'd a TD30KV I fell in love with it, it was almost like the real thing to me at the time. But over the years as I got better and found it had to express my playing and the stage presence was not amazing so I did the only thing I could and made a custom A2E (7Pc Tama Superstar Classic + TD50 all 16 inputs maxed out/plus TD27 for extra digital inputs, Digital: snare, x2 rides, HH and the Roland Thin cymbal line and I use SD3 cause Roland sounds suck) and it added a lot of depth to the stale, bouncy, shaky and weak sounding TD30/TD50. But I know it's still nowhere near what an Acoustic kit wold feel and sound like and it's holding me back some...but it's the only way I can have a drum kit at this time and am grateful these options are available to us.
Definitely Acoustic are superior in every way, but I can't play loud drums in my house, so e drums are the only option. Unfortunately I just can't find a hi-hat that works nice. The hats are their own instrument, and I love to constantly be changing the feel/pressure on my hat pedal.
I have played acoustic all my life. I now own a Roland TD50kv2, which is an industry standard. If I had a choice to keep only one. I’m sticking with electronic. It just so much fun and much more versatile.
You should always take an e-drum as a replacement for an acoustic drum, where an acoustic drum can not or hardly be used, e.g. because of sound level or size.
Especially, if you than stick to the e-drums and do not always change in between them, they are absolutely fantastic!
I do never want to get back to the time where after some hours of practicing, you were hearing impaired because everybody had to adjust the level to the drummer.
2:20 "Give it to me baby, uh-huh uh-huh". Just popped into my head, Cheers!
Both are great🔥🔥🔥I like to play both of two😍😍😍 The sound of both instrument are fantastic👌🤘👌
Agreeeee!! Both are beautiful!
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I prefer e-kit more because of 2 things, Noise and practical and to me E kit is better. I actually enjoy watching this video. Great Job
The thing I dont like about e drums is dynamics and feel. So Acoustic Drums still the King
Prefer acoustic for sure, but shocked by how far e drums have come!
Ask your neighbors which they prefer you play.
My daughter wants to play the drums, so I'm doing some research, this was really helpful.
I personally think acoutsic is better
But if you live in an apartment than I electric is better
Have an amazing day alejandro
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That is completely true! Facts!
Have an amazing week! Ireland rocks!
I play electronic drum kit and each sounds are good 👍
Duuude!! YOUR DRUMMING SKILLS!! IS FIRE!! 🔥🔥🔥 I WANNA BE ABLE TO PLAY LIKE THAT!!
Finally!!! I was waiting for a video like this, bro love that thumbnail lol so sick.
That is awesome! Glad you liked it bro!
Both sets sound amazing, but I have a questions what mics and rack gear are you using to get that studio sound on the acoustic set?
I saw it in one of his videos called “how to record drums for beginners” and he talked about all his gear in there
the cinematography on this guys videos feel like a movie
I have had three electronic Roland drum sets and spent a lot of time trying to make them sound more acoustic, the feel of the rubber plastic cymbals were my biggest hate. So I gave up and went back to acoustic and never regretted it. We have a band room so disturbing the neighbours is not an issue. It’s horses for courses, yes the drum sticks are an issue with acoustics but I like the rim shots on an acoustic more. Good video 👍🏻
Record same parts on both. Wherever more low end is needed increase volume of electric kit and for high end use acoustic. Always combine both while recording and use only one live
Both sound good, but nothing beats the classic!
Well, in that nostalgic vein then, vinyl is better too than digital.
@@georgebentonjr3876 That`s correct! I do agree!
I prefer edrums because you can get wild on it, hit it as hard as you want without bothering anyone. You cant go wild on an acoustic drums without making enemies. Unless you have a dedicated sound proofed room for your acoustic drums, only then is the acoustic better. Btw this is the best comparison video on acoustic and edrums.
Im lucky to have both a high end Ludwig and a Roland Virtual Acoustic VAD503 and the Dynamics and feel of the roland are really close to the real kit. The Digital pads of roland really make a difference and you can even play with brushes smh. I like both and don't find issues going back and forth between them
I háve Been a drummer almost my entire Life i played Both drums Styles in big and small churches and for me i prefer the acoustic a million times❤
I think that’s the most gorgeous PDP kit i’ve ever seen! Had no idea they had stepped it up so much! That snare sounds magnificent too!
BTW i just got the black n red DDrum Hybrid 5 kit with the Mapex all black hardware and double kick and love it!
It’s the best of both worlds!
I do wish i had that Alesis module you have though,that would be rad!
I’m getting the Paiste Red cymbal set soon to match the rest of the kit!
9:23 felt like I was back in the band room
Hi Alejandro how are you hope you're okay stay safe and have a amazing day today God bless
Heey! Thank u so much! Have a an amazing day, blessings!
8:04
Ive been waiting for this exact video. Im about to buy this Alesis kit and Ive been searching to see how loud it is. Looks like lll be good to go for an apartment!
I would recommend you record some samples from your acoustic drums and download them to your e kit!
Love how he reply to every single comments.
Love the both man…
Both are amazing!
Great compare and contrast! Just like a perfect English paper you'd hand to the teacher in high school.
@Alejandro, I kinda disagree about the 1st comparison (Sound), because even with basic Yamaha DTX6K, other brands not sure.. you can tune in very detail for each crash, cymbal, snare, tom, all of them.
Every detail tunings are possible and quite easy yo do, you can even upload the recorded sound of your specific acoustic unit (hi-hat, bell, snare, etc.. you name it).
So seeing the above.. e-drum wins actually.
But indeed about the feel, ;mesh head and rubber crash are not a fun things to play with.. however, again, Yamaha silicon snares & toms are great!
Disclaimer: I'm not from Yamaha, their distributor, sales, or anything else.
I ended up fall in love with Yamaha, not Alesis, or even Roland, because of Yamaha's silicon pad and practicality of the sound upload and recording, superb, even for the basic one I have.
I'm far from pro, just a layman, starting to pick up a very old buried hobby.
Love your videos, bro!
Cheers! 😉🍻
That is true and even better with plug ins like EZDrummer and more! Yamaha is amazing too! Thank u so much for the support! Cheers!
Right!
Part II
Acoustic VS Yamaha DTX10 full set mesh head
The best kit is the one you have access to play.
Awesome stuff!
You are awesome bro!
I'm perfectly comfortable using acoustic or electronic drums in most situations. E-drums have come a long way. Back in the 80's they were abysmal but even then I added an 8 pad drum machine to my kit.
Sure in an arena a giant 17pc set looks amazing but a giant pain to set up. Many major recording artists now tour with 5 and even 4 pc sets.
The biggest thing for me is cymbals, e-cymbals still have a ways to go. They sound good enough but most only have 2 triggers, edge and middle, no bell. Some do silence decently though. You can't get the versatility out of e-cymbals that you can out of real ones.
Outside of that I think e-drums are good enough for most situations.
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I prefer playing on acoustic, but, for me practicing at home and not in the practice rooms at my school it's definitely worth me getting the electric for 2 reasons. 1 I can probably plug headphones in. 2 turning volume down. Acoustic are better for performances and studio recording, e-drums for practicing at home and recording.
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the video was.... BEAUTIFUL!!
I love watching you drum. Great comparison. Gracias amigo!
Thank u so much amigo! Really glad you liked it!
I agree with the FEEL of the Electric Drums.. I have been playing for 5 years with my Electric drums, and so far, It's good. Although the first 3 years I have been playing with it, My hands were like ' WHEN WILL THIS END! ' But after it, My hands moved on, and it didn't hurt.
The funny thing is that I Played an acoustic set in a Music store and I broke the stick, My hand was like ' Hit it harder, HARDER! ' so My church decided to have an Electric Drum rather than the Acoustic.
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All drums are beautiful!
If I need a drum set, electronic or otherwise, I’ll call you, cuz you seem like someone who knows what’s good.
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Don't worry, you are here, and that's awesome! You are amazing!
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Hoping to buy a drum set and start lessons from Ur channel.
That drum kit is coming real soon!
I have both an acoustic and e-drum at home. My wife suffers from hyperacusis (sensitive hearing). When she’s home I will use my e-drum as the sound of the pads doesn’t really travel through the walls. And when she’s not home I go ham on the acoustic. I prefer the acoustic overall… but the e-drum definitely has its place.
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One thing that I have learned is to record the E-Drums with midi maybe the first 1-2 times through. Listen to the playback and you can adjust your velocity errors through midi. Once you have everything good, play back and record the audio.
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Been drumming for 20 years so I'd agree the acoustic is better in all aspects. The only reason I have an ekit is because it makes it easier to practice in an apt but you can still get your exercise in and move them on to the big kit. Super convenient and it seems like they just keep improving on making them sound and feel like a real kit every year.
Acoustic drum kits are overrated, if you ask me.
They're nice to look at but...... way to loud and limited.
It doesn't unleash as much creativity out of the box, as the nicer electronic kits do, at the push of a dial.
You can have an electric kit go thru a midi controller or some kind of mixer, then to a computer as your brain instead of a electronic drum module. Lots of software plugins out there today. Lot's of configuration options for the e-kits future, without end.
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In the end .. it's all about what we love ... ..nice teaching ... Though i have only seen e kit like four boxes ... Can't figure out what is what .... Only saw acoustic drum kit in its complete sense .. never been a drummer ... Was only a vocalist for a while ...
POV before starting the video: Aquostic Wins.... always it's better than the other drums...its originality is always bonkers...
hahaah acoustic is amazing1
for studio purpose , if i need electric drum voices i would use a drum pad or keys .. i think that Edrums suitable for stages and live performing
Amazing video guy! Congratulations!
This is very informative for a beginner like me.... after watching this video makes me like subscribe & follow. Keep it up Alejandro....🥁🥁🥁
After playing five different Drum set. From the Roland TD 1 K. To Roland TD 17 K. And ATV E xs 2 and exs 3. I would say that the E drum set with all mesh head which are 10 inch or larger. would have better fuel than a acoustic one, that's just my opinion. And with the edrum, you can hitting drums and symbols really hard and that's essential for beginners to learn. The acoustic drum set is loud as hell.
I disagree with the looks part. I genuinely think the e-kit looks better for the most part. Sure you can design your acoustic drumset freely, but just the color combinations that they usually put with the black on the e-kit and the design of the cymbals, toms, and snare are just way better in my eyes. You can even make the wires look neat by tying them together. So I think the e-kit wins that one.
wow, i love you way to comparing this drum kit .
Really glad you liked it bro!
It’s no competition is it ! the acoustic drums are a different thing altogether. The electronic drums have there place but it’s an easy win for the acoustics for me 👍
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I appreciate that! Thanks!
I just literally got an ad of your video in your video.
Awesome video!! Question of many new drummers answered!!
A e-drum might be very useful, like in a flat. But I think a real drummer would always choose the acoustic drum -for feel, sound and look. It is just something different…
Yeah! Drums are life, baby! 😁👌🔥🎶
Mix the two sets together the sounds are limitless. That's what I did, it's Luke having 28 sets in one. If I have a small place to setup at I take my e-kit . Gives me several kits to choose from in a little space. Plus if want to use my Amp for small clubs I can. And if I don't want to lug around my Amp I can hook up to the clubs sound system.
Damn I love your energy, great vid!
You missed two very important things: tunning and price. As e-drums doesn't need for tunning in comparison to acoustic instruments is a clear point for e-drum. And yeah, today you can buy a very decent acoustic set with cymbals for more or less the price of a good entry level e-drum set, that doesn't include the mics you need to record properly your sessions. Anyway great review, I wish to see this when I bought my first set, I had many doubts. Now I only have e-drums not only because my neighbors, but also because of my girlfriend, noise bothers everybody, but if I have the choice to find a place where I can play without disturbing anybody, definitely going to get an acoustic set, everything you said is correct.
Me encanta que te tomes el tiempo de traducir el vídeo a inglés
I have one more test for you: How much does it cost in replacement parts. On an acoustic kit, you have to replace the skins and the cymbals. And even though you may have to replace your mesh heads, I'm pretty sure it's less often than the skins on your acoustic kit.
I don't have the option to go acoustic. Though not a beginner, the Strike Pro is my first kit, literally just ordered one today! I'm a guitarist/bassist by trade and also play rudimentary keys. I understand drumming, have programed my own stuff since 1983, have played different times on cajon and a real kit, but don't have the option for my studio. It's a new journey for me.
I came across this video and just by seeing the caption i don't have to think twice, acoustic is the best.
Great video thanks for sharing.
Brooo, your talent is on fire 🔥🔥🔥