Games You Tried Hard To Love But Couldn't - Kinda Funny Gamescast Ep. 36 (Pt. 4)
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2015
- What games did we want to love, but just couldn't get into?
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Greg should put up Let's Play of him going through FF6.
Colin makes Mega Man look so elementary. I missed out on Mega Man in my young years and jumped on the Collection as soon as it released. After dying over and over to start the level it made me realize just how good Colin is at them.
Man, the control stuff makes me say "thank you mario" for making 3D control schemes make sense. "thanks nintendo" is probably something we should say a ton for nintendo and controls
well done Tim. Way to stick with a game and end up loving it. I fell in love with KH instantly and its one of my favorite game series of all time. As for the topic, sadly I'm not a fan of Mario games. I was a sega kid growing up and never really got into mario. I've played mario games, but i just don't share the love for it that other people have.
+vanguardduelist Bloodborne was like that for me. Hated it at first, but stuck with it and fucking loved it. Now I'm a huge fan of the Souls series and can't wait for DS3
+vanguardduelist I'm the opposite. I played kh1, 2, one third of bbs, and re:chain. 2 was okay, the rest were terrible.
1 in particular just has some really ridiculous levels and doesn't tell you where to go at all.
wonderland in particular, fuck that shit.
For me it's The Witcher, I brought 1, it felt antiquated as hell and just... terrible(though I find most don't love that game), brought 2, I tried, I really really tried but I just couldn't deal with the combat, it was so odd. I may try 3 when it gets really cheap(I brought 1+2 on a Steam sale for probably less than $20, that's how much i'd pay for 3 since so many people love it). Also Deus Ex Machina, I was just bad at it, love stealth games but not a big fan of 1st person stealth.
I understand man definitely should give 3 a try though. I barely played any of the first one and never touched the 2nd but 3 had me wanting to check those boxes haha
+ThatOneGuyCpr I can't get into The Witcher 3 right now either to be honest. I was so excited for that game all throughout its pre-release but during the wait I played Dragon Age Inquisition. I don't know how to put it but I basically only play 1 full-fledged RPG every year or so, but because that is literally all I can handle before getting sick of them or bored out of my mind. Right now I haven't really played much of anything lately just so when I get that urge again, it will go all to The Witcher 3.
+ThatOneGuyCpr haha witcher 1 is my favourite game of all time :D yeah it was complicated at first to me, but i love the combat :D story so good :D
+ThatOneGuyCpr If you didn't like 1 and 2, i would not recommend 3. It has improvements on the first two but those improvements make the game tighter and do not change anything substantial. It is the same but much larger.
You sound a lot like me. I couldn't stand the combat, it felt clunky to me and unbearable. The story was great and i ended up watching my friend play the game who had the same feelings towards the gameplay but was able to play the game anyways.
The game is great but it is just not for me and i will say it is probably the same for you. If you can demo it or try it before purchasing it, do it.
Why does Colin keep saying MGS had tank controls? Either he doesn't understand what tank controls really are, or he's just misremembering. I just don't get why Greg isn't correcting him. Considering he's such a big Metal Gear fan, I would assume he knows that's incorrect.
+jbell1688 I'm fairly sure the first 2 Metal Gear games did have tank controls. I could be wrong though.
The movements were really awkward.
+Mike Mike
Colin is probably talking about the concept of the switch to the first person view, the ''tank" part being not able to move in the first person view.
Every single Zelda game. The Mass Effect Series. Sonic Unleashed. Sonic and the Secret Rings. Red Steel. F Zero GX. GTA 4. Skyrim. Super Mario Sunshine. Final Fantasy XIII. Uncharted 3.
It took me three honest tries to get into Dark Souls. The first two efforts were totally fruitless, but for some reason the third was a resounding success and the game is now one of my favorites of all time.
Fallout 3, GTA series, half life, Mario sunshine, and animal crossing
Zelda: Skyward Sword...it really felt like a chore to play. I've never gone back to it again after finishing it once and every time I try to finish it a second time I just stop 20% in the game.
It had some epic moments though, I'll give it that. Like that 8 handed golden statue boss battle.
I loved that GameSpot panel it was hilarious.
I couldn't imagine never loving Kingdom Hearts. Everything about the series grab me. The story does make sense but, you have to play all the games go on forums and use wikis to really decipher everything. GTA is a series I tried repeatedly but, could never get into for some reason.
I remember when I started the first Mass Effect, I got a little nauseous and I didn't like how it controlled and I had to take a step back. Then I decided to power through and once I got passed the first mission I was good. Nausea was gone and it got better. Glad I stuck to it.
First time I ever got into a games community is Bloodborne. I created a Reddit for it just to post, and share my thoughts. It's amazing to see so many other people who are just as passionate/more passionate than me about it.
Whoever said KH should feel ashamed.
+videogamejo whoever turned in this topic sounds like a young buck who doesn't know the history of games
+videogamejo Well the controls sucks a lot. You would be surprise how many people dislike KH just for this.
+TheParadozia As someone who absolutely loves the series, I have to admit that Kingdom Hearts was the weakest game in the series in terms of controls. Combat-wise, it was absolutely Chain of Memories in my opinion. There are plenty of reasons to love/hate Kingdom Hearts and I whole-heartedly agree that the controls in some of them are quite bad.
Shadow of the Colossus is one of my favorite games but the games that I can't like is Resident Evil 4, Grand Theft Auto 5, Mega Man games and Final fantasy series
Dishonored and Metro: Last Light. Tried hard to get into those games.....then after I beat them I felt like "yeah, I'm okay with never playing through those two again".
Dragon Age Inquisition
+chrsngyn I tried it after i finished the witcher 3 .... big mistake, dragon age inquistion looks like a gravehags left titty compared to the witcher
+fluffy fingerz your opinion
+fluffy fingerz Dragon Age was not graphically equal to Witcher 3. I think Witcher 3 was a more fun game. But, Dragon Age was still a fun and good game.
+Noah Kint if u want to compare stories yes witcher 3 is inferior would loved it if they focused the story on the witchers and not siri. but gameplay the witcher 3 win hands down
+chrsngyn Ever dragon age shit every fantasy game.
Devil May Cry and Bayonetta. Every time I watch those games they look so intense and cool, but the second I try to play them I get bored.
Right after Greg and Colin got done talking about SotC I was thinking to myself, "Damn these guys are crazy". Literally a second later Tim says, "Wow you guys are crazy" haha. I'm also surprised on Greg's take on the FF series. Given his age and how FFVII was a coming of age game for the PS1, I would have thought that he'd have at least beaten it. To each his own though. Good video guys and happy gaming.
I powered through peace walker. Hated it at first, then figured it out and loved it.
+Euler I'm sort of the opposite. I'm pretty late to the Metal Gear series and have been playing through all the games. I played through Ground Zeroes first when it came out and decided to go back and play the others and I really dislike the gameplay mechanics of the first 3 games (particularly 1 and 2). They are very dated as far controls. I still love the games though. The story is fantastic but when I first started playing them I really didn't like them and got easily frustrated. It was a matter of just grinding through it for a few hours until I got comfortable with the game.
Just started Peace Walker now and I love it. Can't wait to play through Phantom Pain :)
+Patrick Chaanin I got into the metal gear games early last year. I at first loved the first one but as I saw my brother struggling with it, I realized that this did not age well at all. Still love it but it's for nostalgia now. I think almost 40 hours into MGS V TPP it obliterates every metal gear in terms of gameplay.
Hah! Can't understand that Colin haven't played, truly played Shadow of the Colossus. Classic.
To each their own
The Witcher series stands out as a series I tried so hard to play. Couldn't get past the first few hours of 1 and 2. Just got bored and stopped.
As far as Tim's comments on Kingdom Hearts. KH1 was a bit hard to play but it clicked for me instantly because of the story. I do tend to look past some mediocre gameplay if the story is good.
Where can I buy Tim's mug? That pipe is awesome.
+Vince_M_S Fangamer.com!
Thank You Bestfriend!
I like to think I'm a big Mass Effect fan but I feel somewhat disjointed because I only played the trilogy months after ME3 released.
How can you not like SHADOW OF THE COLOSSUS!!!!!!!
I like but, is not a masterpiece for me...
+Maverick D. It's one of those games with a cult following. Sure it's great and artistic and all that, but some of the collosi are just tedious to fight. I like the game, but if they made the gameplay more fun and less tedious, I think a lot more people would be on board with it. That being said, The Last Guardian looks pretty sick :D
The swimming is absolutely terrible.
+MikeG82 you adapt after a colossus or 2
+MikeG82 the controls are the best part of the game for me theres a weight to the animations tht makes everything feel very unique
I agree with Collin. I WANT to love Assassin's Creed, like I want to dive deep within the games and learn how it connects with history, to see the characters interact with each other...but I am not feeling it, sad really...
I don't remember if i tried hard, but a franchise that comes to mind is Sonic.
This topic/video is really fantastic timing for me. I ordered Kingdom Hearts 1.5 and 2.5 remix the other day and they are coming in the mail tomorrow. This helped me mentally prepare for what I'm getting into. Thanks guys! Wanna be caught up for Kingdom Hearts 3. (I know it's far away.)
+TbestiaC The remixes do their best to improve the visuals and re-adapt the controls, so I don't think you'll have any trouble. It sounds like the person who sent in the question played the ORIGINAL, which didn't have camera control on the right stick or anything like that.
Ooooo they re-adapt the controls? AWESOME. Thanks dude. Now I'm even more excited.
+TbestiaC kh 2.8 got announced. pick that up when that comes.
warning for kh2 hd. despite being good it the forms have a longer load animation which will be noticed if you played the original. pause the game for a few seconds to fully load it so you can insta wrek enemies
+TbestiaC kh 2.8 got announced. pick that up when that comes.
warning for kh2 hd. despite being good it the forms have a longer load animation which will be noticed if you played the original. pause the game for a few seconds to fully load it so you can insta wrek enemies
+TbestiaC kh 2.8 got announced. pick that up when that comes.
warning for kh2 hd. despite being good it the forms have a longer load animation which will be noticed if you played the original. pause the game for a few seconds to fully load it so you can insta wrek enemies
Colin is where he is because he wrote FAQs... I am confused, isnt that a bit of fandom and dedication we are talking about?
Mobas are like competitive gaming for people that can't aim.
Megaman powered up let you make your own levels and share them with your friends and that was really fun and worked
The games that come to mind for me are Metal Gear Solid, Darks Souls, and Bloodborne. Just can't bring myself to play though these games.
Colin hit the nail on the head as to why Greg doesn't like FF imho. He played the wrong ones. 4 is my favorite, but 6 is a masterpiece. Tactics shoutout though as that was an amazing game too. Maybe Greg would like Chrono Trigger better though.
I want techs back from Chrono Trigger and Cross. It looks like Project Setsuna might have that.
I honestly think, that the Kingdom Hearts series is specifically engineered to be played through during one's childhood. It's pretty much designed to be the ultimate nostalgia game. Let's take Star Wars for example, it's pretty much a franchise that achieved it. And the Kingdom Hearts series has numerous allusions to Star Wars, examples being the light and darkness motif, the black cloaks, Xemnas' abilities which includes having something very reminiscent to red light-sabers. The Gummi Ship mission in KH2 called Assault of the Dreadnought also has a literal Death Star in the shape of a cube instead of a sphere. You could even say Kingdom Hearts is its spiritual successor. But Stars Wars is only one thing, because it pretty much has an ensemble of the Disney Renaissance which are also a part of the childhood of many. And there's also the Final Fantasy series, FFVII specifically served as a gateway for many to their first JRPG or maybe even RPG in general.
This is easy.
-GTA Series
-Kingdom Hearts (Still getting 2.8, 2.9, and 3)
-FF2
-Batman Arkham Night
-RE5
-DA: Origins
-All Zelda games (still getting Zelda U)
-All Metroid Games
-Dragon Quest Series
-Tales series
-Borderlands Series
-All Bethesda games pre-Skyrim and pre-New Vegas
-Devil May Cry Series
-The Souls Series (love the bosses, hate the difficulty)
...and those are only a few.
Do you like anything good
+megadeth232 Of course I do. Those games I listed were too tedious or too difficult for my tastes.
I am so on board with Assassin's Creed lmao!!
Alone in The Dark: Inferno 2008.
I wanted this game to succeed and have another installation of it. Story wise it was great and have a very dark plot, but gameplay didn't help to delver the awesome story of it. I tried really hard to play it and love it but no it didn't click with me.
Kingdom hearts was my first video game and it's what got me hooked on gaming
I got a cover topic! Life choices validated!
I'll probably try to power through KH again at some point, but not yet.
DC Universe Online was the game for me. The trailer lured me in, and I know that CGI trailers should be looked at with a judging eye, but I thought that if this game had just a shimmer of what the trailer showed then I would enjoy it. It didn't and I just couldn't stick with it.
FTL : Faster Than Light
I grew up with Kingdom Hearts, so I guess thats why I love it? I remember when I first got a PS2 Christmas of 2002- three days before my eleventh birthday. I got Sly Cooper with it, then my dad took me to Blockbuster and I rented Kingdom Hearts. The game was magical then, and it introduced me to the Final Fantasy games- which is my favorite game series. I'll admit the gameplay is no Zelda, but it successfully combined Final Fantasy and Disney in an awesome way. So, yeah man, Kingdom Hearts was a great time in middle school...
Colin says when asked which mechanics he wants to see in future games it would be to make choices that have impact. What i found ridiculous about that was that the Witcher 3 has one of the best systems in terms of that. Your choices matter and they even make the world change. The great thing is that it is done in a realistic way and not like giving you two options and no matter what you do the game will judge you in some way and put you in a good vs evil category. As Colin didn´t play a big part of W3´s story of course he didn´t get this. But i am actually not sure if he could appreciate that system because here it really sounds like he wants those cliche telltale choices that don´t feel realistic and always make you feel bad no matter what you do and are way over the top.
For me, it's Skyrim. Bought it, played it and just had no fun with the combat. I also thought the story was weak. I feel a lot of open world games just don't have a great story. No characters that I get attached too like in Mass Effect or DAI. A bit the same with MSG 5 though the combat in MSG is just great.
Zelda, for years, I'm still trying. Also Borderlands 2.
Final Fantasy IX came out in 2000! lol..I definitely agree with Colin though. Final Fantasy VII (like many others) is probably the most important game of my life. However, it doesn't hold up very well. On the other hand, Mega Man, Mario, Contra, Super Dodgeball, and Zelda for NES are all timeless.
I can't really get in to JRPGs only one I like is pokemon.
+Potatochief I can't get into them, either. I've tried to play so many Final Fantasies back in the day, but I just can't do it. I can only do action RPGs. Hell, I even tried to get into South Park, but I couldn't even do that. And I thought the presentation on that game was phenomenal, I just couldn't deal with the old school turn based JRPG mechanics.
If you can't get into traditional JRPGs try Paper Mario, specifically Thousand Year Door on GameCube. Very fun game and the timed combat system (which is inspired from Super Mario RPG) makes it interesting and engaging
I'm starting to warm to JRPGS slowly. Enjoying FF6 at the moment
Fallout 3, which is weird because I love open world games and rpgs but for what ever reason I just could not get into it. I'm intrigued by Fallout 4 though and will give the series another try.
They fixed the controls in 1.5 :p
JRPGs. I tried Final Fantasy VI, Kingdom Hearts, & Fire Emblem: Awakening but couldn't get into any of them. I really wanted to like them though.
System shock 2. Since I adore Bioshock and have beaten it 4 times, it would be logical that I would like it's predacessor, but I just couldn't bring myself to like it, and the whole plot twist thing didn't really shock me at all.I still beat it though.
Witcher,Dragon Age Inquisition, a Monster Hunter.
kingdom heart, borderlands, final fantasy, elder scrolls, fallout.
Mario maker is already announced for the 3ds. lol Finally gonna pick it up
Every Arkham game :(
Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon.
I can see it's good, and I love the ideas in it, but I had to force myself to beat it.
I don't think getting a tattoo makes you a bigger fan.
Final Fantasy 9 !!!! Play this game! Its the best!
Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2, Dark Souls 2, MGS 2, RE6, and Splinter Cell Blacklist. Valkyria Chronicles is almost there, it's stuck swaying on the edge of terrible and great for me.
Megaman Maker? I guess you'd have to come up with a way to create new robot masters.
The Force Unleashed. I remember it being the first Star Wars game I was ever excited for, having previously played Bounty Hunter and Battlefront and enjoying those but wanting more. The physics-mechanic of force-pushing stormtroopers into stuff was mindblowing for me when I saw it in trailers and everything looked so good... but then the game sucked...
I used to have an obsession with Dragons Dogma. I'm so hoping to get Dragons Dogma Online in America.
i don't really have a good example. But i will say i loved KH from beginning, and i did love shadow of colossus. i do think that it's hard to do the controls from games from like ps1 and ps2 generation. In my mind, it was, you just get used to whatever the control scheme is. so when people say, i want control mapping, i'm like no. just get used to what the dev's want you to do
Bravely Default. Old school job system? Awesome. Warriors of Light homage? Check. Unique take on old combat system tropes? This game was made for me.
30 hours in and all of that good will went away very, very fast.
The ending is worth the grind that the plot twist puts you through.
Happen too many times. Just lie to yourself to make yourself feel better and the money you just wasted
I couldn't get into Fallout: New Vegas. I played a few hours of Fallout 3 from someone's copy to try it out. I loved it but now I only have a PS4 and FO3 doesn't work on Windows 7. So I got New Vegas but it didn't click with me at all.
"Im the bigger fan!" schtick really pisses me off, had a friend who would try that often, and would always bring that up any time i had the audacity to bring up critiques with films and games we were fans of, its possible to love something and still be able to discuss its faults.
A game I tried to get into but couldn't was Starcraft 2, loved Halo Wars and wanted to play more sci-fi RTS, but i found it just never really clicked, probably also didn't help I prefer Controller to Mouse and keyboard.
And a game mechanic I would like to see more of, active reload in Gears of War, brings an element of risk vs reward to a mechanic most games wouldn't give a second thought to.
Deus Ex for me. It's everything I SHOULD love in a game but I just can't get into it.
I tried to get into first Uncharted, Batman, GTA4 when I bought PS3, but just couldn't. At that point I mostly moved into PC gaming. That whole generations almost all 3rd person games just didn't catch me at all after loving many on my Gamecube and PS2.
Games that I should by every account love, Witcher and Witcher 2 I just could not get into. I really did try to like both. Though I do like Witcher 3 very much.
yeah I could never get into assassin creed lol
Put the sponsor thing at the end of the video
MGSV is the game I wanted to love but couldn't. It looked like so much fun but after 15 hours I was bored as hell from the repetitive missions and easy stealth. Like I'm bad at stealth games but I was getting S ranks all the time for full stealth. Plus there are stupid difficulty spikes out of nowhere. I know that there are different ways to play other than stealth but the game really only rewards you for playing one way in terms of building mother base etc etc.
How about in Super Mario Maker you can make Mario Galaxy type levels too.
I've attempted to like WOW on multiple occasions but I just can't get into it.
I'm only experiencing this with kingdom hearts. I love da franchise but haven't gotten around to play da games. If a collection comes to ps4, I will definitely try it, no matter what order lol
Zone Of The Enders
I tried playing MGS & MGS2 but could not get with the controls.
Xenoblade- MMO-Style grinding, combat system lacked depth with victory determined purely on if you are high enough level to take on the next boss. Its landscape which, was indeed very well designed, couldn't display well on the Wii's low graphic capabilities. Also, not exactly a fan of the characters *yelling their moves before using them.* Story was okay. Kinda cliche but it wasn't bad. Things I liked? The voice acting when not yelling their moves, or telling the enemy what time it was. It was an okay game.
The whole Final Fantasy universe is something I try to get into but can't. I also find it annoying that every game is it's own story.
I still love the Tactics games without caring about the story.characters.
Kingdom Hearts where kinda behind the times in terms of camera control though. In fact, most Japanese devs at the time where when it came to camera control. They just insisted on sticking to buttons for controlling the camera for the longest time. Maybe Japanese gamers just wheren't taking to an analog stick controlled camera, and that is why?
Regardless, KH definitely wasn't a case of just being. "Of the times" and we not knowing how to do it better back then. Which is why KH2 introduced a better camera control system.
Uncharted I really didn't like the first one all that much but gut through it but the sequels were gold
F-Zero maker please! Or hell, just any F-Zero!
I've tried Final Fantasy 7 so many times, I just can't get into it. I really enjoyed 8, and 10 was fine.
shadow of the colossus is my fav game...sad to hear that guys...
still love you. =)
Can we all just stop and appreciate Tim's mother fucking mug! my god! need it...
One game series I thought was good but didn't understand the obsession is.....brace yourselves..... The Legend of Zelda. I played Skyward Sword and probably a little under half of Ocarina of Time and it just didn't click. But I was also a late comer to the series.
+Dennis Osborn Skyward Sword is also, IMO, one of the worst if not the worst Zelda game out there. Surprised you didn't like Ocarina, though
+Dennis Osborn Skyward Sword is probably the worst official Zelda ever made...
Link to the Past and Link Between Worlds. Play those, I was late to the series as well but I started with Link to the Past. At least try one of those since the 2D games are so different than the 3D titles
+Dennis Osborn I don't blame you. I personally think Wind Waker is the best Zelda. The rest of the games were 'good' to me. It's just one of those long lasting series that will draw in numbers regardless of how it stands next to its predecessors. It's a good series, don't get me wrong. But I think it certainly could turn off some people.
Also, if you didn't like those, the 2D ones aren't much different. That's just my view since they follow the same formula.
Starting with Skyward Sword was a huge mistake. That game is hated by a good chunk of the fan base, so I urge you to finish ocarina of time or try something like majoras mask or wind waker, or even a link to the past if you're into top-down games.
How about a Super Mario Kart Maker ? Who else wants that ???
Every game KF recommends lol
For me, it's Red Dead Redemption... and I'm an open-world game fan. #CantLoveEmAll
Second the Assassin Creed thing. Keep trying but it just doesn't click.
So glad im not the only one that has such a hard time with the Final Fantasies. I know its such an unpopular opinion....... because I have just not been able to get into it.
Dragon Age for sure.
Sooo want a Zelda Maker!
my wife power through me, now she loves me.
Any platformer
For me it's the Final Fantasy Series. I know it's considered heresy, but I can't get into them. The only JRPG series I like is Persona for some reason.
I love GTA V, so I thought it would be a good idea to play it's PS2 predecessor, San Andreas. I wanted to love that game but hoo wee are the controls garbage. Honestly, take off any nostalgia goggles you have on and play that game in 201 and you will see just how archaic it is.
I don't think there is any game that I could even come close to post to a forum about. I mean the closest thing I could come close to posting about would probably be hockey but I am still nowhere close to these super fans of hockey.