Best and Worst 3-Color Commander Designs!
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- Опубликовано: 28 окт 2021
- This color combination series returns, for a spooky second part where we give you our favorite and least favorite 3-color shard and wedge commanders in the format, and tell you why!
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Nice! Though I really thought Beezy was going to be a ham sandwich and Joe would somehow go infinite.
We thought about that, but then the video would never end :p
lol it would be funny if joe somehow became small version of the universe and he was just emanating mass, energy and stars next to beezy who was just a literal ham sandwich.
@@lunarlight3131 how could we ever do that lol 😂
I could've seen that lol
That would be Bonkers
“Marchesa is the only commander to have Monarch in the command zone.”
Jared Carthalion: “Am I a joke to you?”
Me: “You are a joke of a card, yes.”
Jared is a joke til he gets the monarch back and adds 13 counters for 1 mana from blasphemous act
Someone had to say it
@@Dayyyjoey26 oh of course. Jared is capable of some crazy stuff, and I’m looking at making a deck for him. It’s just also that the card has some serious drawbacks and is a bit clunky and awkward.
@@semperignotus Good jokes can be great fun though and Jared in my humble opinion is exactly that: It is clunky and not an A-tier commander BUT the card oozes flavor :)
@@Morrodin182 i definitely love the flavour of the card and want to get like a King Arthur alter/secret lair.
Never have I enjoyed looking at beezy trying to turn his head more than today❤️🤣
It was creepy for me
So glad he said he was a flaming Cheeto cuz I was struggling to figure out what he was
I was thinking, tongue maybe.
liver?
Pepperoni Beezy
Looks like a tongue to me🤣
Pretty much mono nonsense
You guys are def missing the value of a mutating commander by calling brokkos 'nothing'. Mutate is actually a cracked voltron mechanic and trample is really all they need to be good for it in terms of evasion. Like sticking brokkos onto a managorger hydra lets you rack up commander damage like crazy. Same with a card like realm seekers which is normally just a huge no evasion fatty, but with brokkos it's an instantly lethal weapon. And unlike other voltron commanders brokkos has the yard-cast resiliency, which certainly helps efficiency wise compared to my illuna deck that struggles to recast after the 2nd time.
I completely agree. I have a Brokkos deck and its one of my favorites and my playgroup hates it. But whats great is they hate it without thinking he's too brokken. cause he certainly isnt broken. But when you can dodge commander tax as long as you have a creature on the field and give your trampling commander pesudo-haste, a voltron win with him isnt out of reach. there are a ton of fun ways to fuse him with things. Base 0/0 hydras with counters and creatures with deathtouch are my favorite. But slap him on some hexproofers and you can get a boggles deck going, shadow creatures, flyiers, etc. He certainly isnt a mutate themed deck like Otrimi (although I still run a few mutate creatures for flavor, and using Brokkos to get more of their mutate triggers still works), but he is such a fun commander.
Yes thank you! Don't understand being able to always pay exactly five mana to have a 6/6 trample with extra abilities that's you're commander. He's awesome
I actually like brokkos a lot, came really close to building him. I like commanders that commit tax evasion.
That is the best part of him maybe we will do a least favorite commanders episode of S/S
Made him into a flash infect deck. His showcase art really made me think infect for him.
You have to pay the tax with it
@@crisgon9552 you can let him go to the graveyard and he probably won't ever see the command zone again
@@ExKiwi-yw8er I can see that but then he isn't committing tax evasion sense he isn't being taxed.
I'd watch this with mono colored commanders as well :)
Maybe nice to then also discuss how well they represent the identity of their color
I think we might do that 😅
The costumes have me dying 😂
'Boo'
@@slicksamos8334 AHHH I was just so scared 😱
15:42 “you can’t really make a 5/5 every turn”. crested sunmare wants to know your location
And dragonmaster outcast lol
Grrrr…
Ehehe.. Love you guysss
@@bradwinward1237 love you too
Love the daily content so consistent! 🙌 you guys rock! Very spooky. I’m scared of hot cheetos
Me too, I actually hate them lol
Marchesa the Black Rose being my favorite commander of all time, I'm glad you guys at least had it as an honorable mention. Obeka is sick though, I'll give you that.
Both of them are great 😊
15:20 “what else does it do?” As Beezy is trying to suppress his laughter lol love the show!
I actually like Brokkos. He's fairly open-ended and doesn't hamstring you to a particular strategy. He's just there as a body you can get at anytime if you want, cheating out Commander tax.
That is completely fair, your opinion is as valid as ours 🥰
I like him as a consistent Mutate enabler. There just plain aren't enough mutate cards to make it it work in Commander so having a consistent mutate trigger sitting there in the command zone or graveyard pushes the mechanic into "playable."
To my understanding mutate is also subject to commander tax. So you have to be casting from your graveyard, making the strat just a little more vulnerable.
@@maxwellm8628 This is true, and is the only upside to Brokkos is casting from the yard and dodging the tax. But thats what makes him fun, his consistency. He's the Apex of Forever, he's gonna be back if you get rid of him
Volrath Shapestealer is probably my favorite all time Sultai commander but I love Brokkos as my second, just a classic big ''dumb'' beater deck in Sultai. I think what I like about both of them is how they use creatures as their voltron almost like these types of commanders have created a sub type of Voltron, creature-tron.
Man kadena have to be one of my favorite 3 colors commanders. Her deck is so unique and mind tricks
We like her a lot too
That year's commander precons were all great. I liked the idea of building decks for unrepresented keywords (flashback, populate, madness and morph) I also like gavi because of that. Is a cool way of making commander products.
Omg you guys are the best channel ever not only is this content amazing but what other channel is dressing up and doing this good, keep it up nerds!!
Thanks for the kind words
Thanks for the kind words
Your costumes are really cool!! loved today's content, now i can say that chucky with a cheeto spooked me.
Thank you 😂
"I may be dressed as a flaming hot Cheeto, but I have a lot of integrity." A cheeto with values is ... well ... definitely a voice worth listening to (especially about Magic and hammers) :)
Bant equipment is just a cool design. You can also throw in some great blue creatures like the snake rogue from forgotten realms for extra value
So glad you guys picked Kalamax as your favorite for his colors. He's my favorite deck to play, so much fun!
You mentioned Windgrace, and one of the ways you can take him that's not lands (which I added as a subtheme to my own deck) is madness. You +2 Windgrace to discard a madness card, which lets you cast it, and then you draw a card to replace it. If you build it that way, Windgrace is a fair version of Anje, which is a lot of fun.
Yeah we have in commander cube for the madness deck
Riku was my most favourite commander for a long time. Then we had a huge power creep in our meta and now riku is basically unplayable. I never get to untap with him and its very frustrating and sad
I wish he was made a little better
Same, he was the first commander deck I had. Tried convincing our playgroup to wind the clock back to 2013 because the 2-3 hour games we had back then were some of the best we had.
Yall are so amazing. Thanks for the great content.
I just used your tcg link to buy some singles!....don't hate me but I bought a cyclonic rift. Haha
Nothing wrong with that buy and play what you enjoy
awesome costumes guys really really cool episode
Love the honest share at the end
I have a Brokkos deck that revolves around stringing together trample, deathtouch and hexproof, its actually the most fun deck I have. I don’t need Brokkos to win though, and the variance of that is what makes it so fun. I just used him as a cue for the theme of those keywords, and things that like being in the graveyard or care about whats in your graveyard. I’ll also mention that Muldrotha is in the 99 😊. If there were another commander that was better suited for those themes I’d gladly switch out Brokkos. I hope we get more support for mutate sometime soon, because I love the idea, I just don’t love the majority of the cards.
Brokkos is so beefy in the zone; + you get BUG colors
I run brokkos as well to buff my infect creatures and random power buff tricks with disciple of bolas and thought sponge
LOL Your deck sounds similar to mine. I sometimes refer to it as Brokkgles since I got the idea from the Bogles deck archetype :p
Everyone loves brokkos we will have to make a deck and see
@@NitpickingNerds my version can kill with regular damage or infect. I almost always kill one to two people before I run out of resources. Its not a very high win rate (15%ish) but it’s soooo fun. The look on peoples faces when I attack with brokkos and then Cast Ram Through on the creature they thought would be sufficient to block with. XD
You guys are my favorite mtg RUclipsrs. I love your videos so much
We love your comments! :D
Fantastic costumes guys loved the episode
Glad to hear it!
Omg story untold with that Intro!!!!
A friend in my playgroup has a great spellslinger Riku deck. It used to be Epic Experiment combo but it was very unfun to play with or against it so he watered it down and now it's a really cool deck with finishers like Master the Way and with zero creatures in the 99 (or maybe there is a single Melek or something like that in there).
I'm sad to see that Thantis didn't get any love. I'm excited for my new Thantis deck! But I agree on Chulane and Korvold... I had both of them and took them apart.
They are just lame
I love my Thantis deck, it's in a constant state of finding other fun cards to throw in.
Why run korvold when you can just PROSSH
Karador was the first commander I built a deck around and might be my favorite commander
You and me both 😊
love this content!
Appreciate the honesty bros
Loved the episode! I fully agree with your take on Korvold and Chulane. I bought both decks, when they were released. Dismantled them for the cards in it (like arcane signets) that benefited other decks and both have been gathering dust since then in my binders. I just don't see the point making a deck around them. They are just too easy.
They really are just too generically good
LOVING THE COSTUMES! Chucky doll and a tongue? hahahahha
Great content as always, love the costumes.
I want to give props to
Riku of the two…
Riku gave me my favourite Commander win of all time. Let me tell you:
I was sitting back on a rite of replication, with double mana.
My buddy plays Kukosho the black Kamigawa dragon (hoping to loop sacrifce & reanimate on his next turn).
I kicked Rite ofReplication, then copied with Riku creating 10 copies of the legendary Dragon,
which because of the legend rule I had to sac 9.
It dealt all opponents 45 damage.
Tripple Ko win.
Best Replication ever!
Fun fact regarding Nevinyral- Larry Nevin the Sci-fi/Fantasy author for whom the card was named also coined the term, "Mana" for a magical power source!
I love how serious you are talking about Palladia Mors while looking like a hotdog 🤣🤘
Hey he’s a Cheeto lol 😂
Just the fact that you won't do random sponsorships like literally every other youtuber out there is reason enough to consider joining your patreon.
Karador, Ghost Chieftan was an amazing commander switch from Kathril, Aspect Warper. I love the sheer value you get from Karador.
Video idea: Favourite and least Favourite commanders from outside the commander only products. Could be fun to hear your thought on old legendary creature cards
This is amazing
I just love the intro
Literally took us 15 minutes to get one usable take because we were laughing too much 😂
Great job fellas
Thanks so much!
Nice my favorite new commander deck I play is Galea she's amazing my playgroup loves when I play her to, Have a great weekend everyone Happy Samhain love the costumes.
She is a great design 😊😊😊
19:35 Jared Carthalion
Yeah but he is so forgettable we forgot about him
So the first deck commander deck I ever made was a riku clone and copy deck. I still have it even though I’ve upgraded and changed a lot about the deck itself. I understand the feeling that he can be clunky or you can be killed (my play group tends to play 7-8) but it’s still one of my favorite decks. I just love the way it plays and it fits me well.
Muldrotha was the card that got me back into MTG after a 5 year break. She is one of the most flexible commanders I have ever seen and I had about 60 cards to sideboard into a different deck every week for 3 months
My experience was almost exactly the same. I decided to come back to Magic after a 5 year break and wanted to see what cool golgari recursion based commanders were out there. There were great options like Meren, but I was thinking about adding white for Karador. Problem was that I like blue a lot more than white. When I saw that Muldrotha existed I was so happy that they had designed exactly the kind of card I wanted as a commander.
My favorite three color commander is Surrak Dragonclaw for Temur
5 mana for a flash, uncounterable 6/6 that makes ALL other creatures you cast uncounterable AND gives them trample!! You can make the biggest stompiest deck you want, you can make the ultimate flash creature deck, you can make jank +1+1 Proliferate strategies or creature cloning... The stomping room is ENDLESS.
Imo he's the perfect mid-power Temur commander and he allows for so many nutty strategies at once it's insanity - while never being broken at what he does. He's fun as heck
Beezy really do be looking like a snack this episode. The more the episode goes along, the more I think this is a good look for Joe.
Classic. This just popped up on suggested videos
My Nevinyrral zombie tribal deck is one of my favorite decks. The board wipe is either an emergency stop button or is the start of a near game winning turn
I’ve been wondering, especially since the release of Myrkul, if these three tier rankings would have changed at all. It’s just something that kind of has been in the back of my mind every time I see your new commander rankings
I love that Daghatar exists when Ghave does too.
Sad about Riku, but he holds a special place in my heart because a friend gave him to me when I first got into the game. Not for free though. He looked up the price and it was about the same as a Wendy's burger at the time. He said he would give it if I bought him a burger. I bought him a burger. He gave me Riku. It was great
Best time I had in Brawl was going up against at LEAST one Korvold deck each time I played, and playing my Ashiok deck and running a ton of mind control effects. As soon as they lost Korvold they'd scoop.
Hell yea you dressed up!... neat costumes
That box of weather light looks so great !…….I have no will power and would have cracked it!!! Loved scorched ruins even though you had to sack two untapped lands and then next turn someone would stone rain it before I could even use it …..the good ol days!!!
Lol, I hit the like button as soon as I saw the costumes.
Thank you 😊
I loved the otrimi precon only for the Zaxara.🤣 It's my latest deck build, loads of X costs, barely any mutates left in it, gotta be my fave sultai!
I came here specifically for the Temur take, and boy was I not ready. I love my Riku, and he's probably my favorite commander. I 100% agree he should just cost RUG but I still enjoy playing him. Nothing wrong with not liking him though.
As someone who has a Daghatar deck… yeah I mean I kinda agree with your points. However, I am just such a big fan of Khans of Tarkir to choose any other Abzan Counters commander. The deck is kinda fun - not very powerful, but fun. Really fun to play all the +1/+1 counter lords in the deck, and then moving around counters (and stealing them from your opponents) to make sure all of your creatures have counters and the benefits. It’s not incredible, but it sure is fun.
Even our least fav commanders can
Be built in fun ways. That just shows how awesome commander is
Seeing as you did this and the color dual pairings, maybe most/least favorite color pairings/wedges for partners? It may be kinda bad but my favorite partner pair is Rograghk and Keleth.
That is a good pair, we are thinking about doing single color
Obeka looks like a really fun card, she's just really confusing. I have to look through some of your vids, I think you guys did something with her rules.
When talking about Chulane: "The only thing you have to do is put creatures in your deck"
*confused me sitting here with my Chulane lands-matter landfall and my Chulane Enchantress decks*
Thraximundar is my favorite commander. 😫 I have a sacrifice heavy zombie tribal deck with him as the commander.
We support you still
He was my first commander back in 2010 :( I love him as well and he doesn't cut the mustard these days if you're trying to win. I still play him though!
Beezy’s costume is scarier than 🍒 100%.
Dude I’m cracking tf up when Beezy says “in all of eternity” when introducing Chulane in that costume 😂😂😂
Beezy, you should draw a face on that and you can be the Kool-Aid Man!
"OH YEAH!!!!"
Man those Brawl commanders are so polarizing.
Oloro deserved to be the 'least favorite' design for Esper.
We don’t like him very much but it would have been the same rant we did with Edgar
YOu know.... you'd think after Oloro, wizards would have learned their lesson that eminence was a bad idea.
@@anthonydelfino6171 The idea of a commander who can affect the game without being played is kind of cool, but it’s yet to be implemented in a cool and balanced way imo. Most Oloro decks I played against back in the day would create annoying board states without ever having to cast their commander. Those were some obnoxious games.
@@nickhannah7234 ur-dragon is done pretty well
I took every step possible to not be board wipe/fort tribal when I played him. I tried to use as many powerful but life draining cards as possible to try to constantly ride the line of am I dead next turn or will oloro save me
Ive personally been tempted to do a brokkos voltron deck with no mutate focus where i just make small creatures with good abilities, turn them into brokkos, and thenbif he dies just put him on another body. He reminds me abit of hogak in some ways
I built a Daghatar deck because I wanted something to do with all my extra +1/+1 counters cards. It needs some setup, but its surprisingly resilient if you're not the archenemy. I got wiped twice in a turn and had creatures by the next one, survived a blightsteel pointed at me for two turns by moving counters around, and won the game once I removed Blight with a Constable of the realm.
He's not perfect, but he's more than meets the eye
like transformers!
Aragorn, King of Gondor also introduces the monarch on ETB from your command zone
Nice to see that we agree about the coolest commanders of the two best color trios: alela and obeka
I love the visual of Obeka being resurrected with a Beginning of the End Step card and she smashes a clock to save her life
She is literally punches you into next week
well, Utrimi is meant as a larval form of brukus' species, as for brokus herself, I agree, she needed some extra spice
There's just something soooo tasty about a card with three mana symbols (no colorless), as a 3/3, with 3 abilities. I mean, my ocd number is 3 so I'm a tad biased. But good lord is it satisfying
I think eminence 'could' have been interesting if the eminence ability was different from the ability when played. Like "when in command zone, you make a 2/2 every upkeep" but then "when enters the battlefield, all creatures gain trample" or "when it dies, return a card from graveyard to play".
Something like that. Something that blends, but still encourages the creatures to be played.
Better than how it is now
Hey guys.. love the content.. Jared Carthelion is a Naya commander that introduces the monarchy in a backwards sort of way.. I mean, he's not great but he still counts, sort of 😂😂
Had a Nev deck and broke it up into a Varina deck after repeated complaints from my playgroup. It was so much fun to play. Kept the board clear while I amassed a zombie army from blowing up the board and recurring Nev. So powerful but painful to play against.
That is how we feel about him as well
@@NitpickingNerds Varina Lich Queen is about as powerful but less pain inducing for the table, and Nev fits right in! It's a pretty powerful zombie to drop into the graveyard and pull back out, but less backbreaking out of the command zone.
Riku is super fun, but that’s because I play a Creatures matter deck. My creatures cost me at least 2 less if not more because of all the buffs and the mana I would normally put into the cost goes towards the doubling effect and it makes for a very fun and synergistic deck.
I love that Karador and Obeka are two best commanders, I have a deck with each and both are so fun (but Karador is a creature commander, not a graveyard commander (inside joke with EDH group)) and Anafenza is good in the Karador deck
In my meta I have lost with my riku deck like two times and he always sticks around to do a lot of broken things. :P
Riku is a powerhouse. My buddy did a version based on warpworld. Lots of etb, venser as a counter, and all the etb tokens or etb removal. He's a firm believer in surrounding a card with enough money that it becomes good. I wish warpworld was a meme but he even won fnms against real modern decks with our take on warpworld. My next challenge for him is "kresh and burn". He'll get it to an 8 somehow.
I’m not amazing at building commander decks to be honest, but I can with time and some guidance. I am interested in kalamax though. Do you think he’s challenging enough for people who aren’t as experienced at deck building to steer clear from, or is he more of a medium difficulty build?
Follow up question, is the pre-constructed deck for Kalamax worth it?
Love the outfits
Akim works with a lot of the temp token makers (e.g., Faerie Artisans, Flameshadow Conjuring, etc.), but that's still terrible since the permanent tokens remain as 1/1s.
You guys are jokes🤣 MVP mtg content on RUclips!
Wait is this a nice or mean comment lol 😂
@@NitpickingNerds Nice 😉 you’re commander mentality and card selection is on point! Only good vibes from this Brit 😁
@@GG-sg9zx awww thanks friend 🥰🥰
i think nevinyrral is super interesting but that only because his combo routs are interesting.the fact that if you cst him multiple times in a turn he does something similar to prosh but in esper makes the deck the same but completely different.
He has cool things you can do for sure
His cost is fair. I’ve never wiped with him more than once. I play him as the lead of a zombie tribal deck with mass reanimation effects.
ah, my ex has a riku deck, and i’m very glad it costs 5 mana instead of 3. when you’re playing against an infinite combo deck with very little interaction, it’s nice to have until turn 3 or 4 to draw a swords to plowshares. palinchron, biovisionary, any extra turn spell, etc are pretty much an instant win in riku - protean hulk i think is pretty busted though he cut it out of the deck, so i’m not sure. when i saw it in the least favorite slot i honestly thought it was gonna be because it was too powerful, and i’m shocked that the experience of going against an obnoxious riku deck isn’t universal.
Achievement unlocked. I had three of these "Worst" commanders. Thraximundar and Anafenza were two of the first five decks I ever made. Anafenza has been decommissioned but Thrax is still chilling as my janky ass Zombie tribal commander.
And Riku is one of my favs.
Just stumbled on your channel. You guys are really likeable. A lot of times MTG channel-types seem like assholes but you guys, well you guys are great. I like your little faces.
Cheers!
I realise im a year late to the discusion but j love my Brokkos deck. The flavour all comes from having a mutate commander that you can cast multiple times without having to pay tax. One huge qeakness of mutate is losing a stack of 3-4 cards to a single removal spell, brokkos being playable from the graveyard covers some of that weakness, and being a beefy 6/6 means you can use any tiny base body to build onto and itll instantly be relevant. Mutate onto silent arbiter and challenge people to single combat, mutate onto an infect creature and only have to deal 10 commander damage! Mutate onto cold eyed selkie and draw a bajillion cards! But it's still essentially fair and honest magic :)
Riku was my first commander deck. It WAS super clunky but I loved it. I did all kinds of weird stuff in that deck because I deliberately made it janky.
Honestly, I kind of agree on Riku. I have a Riku deck that I've been trying to tweak and revive for years, and maybe it's just something about the way I build decks, but I always end up disassembling it because it never actually works.
Do the Dragonshield sleeves with the black interior only come in the Japanese card size?
Just saw the first 15 seconds of the video and I INSTANTLY click liked!
YES 😂
A fun Kalamax deck i though of was kalamx, counterspells, removal, then green pump cards. You attack play a pump card, it gets copied and kalamx get a counter. I think it would be a fun version of voltron.
Galea, very fun. Three blades of dual color protection alongside the best aruas. My champion. Lifelink and counter gain off life gain. The slayer with built in vigilance.
Crown of Doom is one of my favorite suggestions for using with Gahiji
Also you get to say Ghijo thats my fav part lol