The Thermosiphon cooler is something I genuinely want so much. It's the best of both world when it comes to air and water-cooling, no risk of pump failure. Count me in!
It sounds like a cool project. We'll see how it turns out. Without the fast flow provided by a pump it could gunk up unless they find remedies. Not to mention how to get competitive temps versus pump-based AIOs.
Noctua is such a wholesome company. Their marketing strategy is just to make great products with amazing warranty support and customer support, and then their engineers don't need to give us any bullshit, and can just market their products by being completely honest and transparent about the products.
@@EdeN_2006 True, if you don't value their long-term platform support and warranty. With Noctua, you can basically buy one cooler and reuse it for 10+ years if you wish. Maybe you need to swap a fan or two, but still, I like it.
you get that lifetime warranty and socket support for even the oldest coolers. thats what you pay for, next to the engineering. Plus other high-end air-coolers are not far off price-wise, but yes noctua tends to be the highest
@@nniklask Right, Noctua is totally worth it. People spend thousands of dollars on CPU and GPU but first dude think a Noctua cooler with a $150 price tag is insane lol.
I think Noctua should colder code LBC in red and HBC in blue for the packaging so that it’s instantly a clear message. Dear Noctua, please take note of my suggestion. Thanks
I cant wait ❤❤❤❤ a new immortal god after noctua air coolers❤❤ this will be the ultimate god after noctuas....imagine liquids and aios or custom loops will be long forgotten when noctua and thermopsiilon will rule the world
@@nsevv Its still expensive regardless of what you make. Coolers of comparable quality cost $40 now. $150 for the same performance, even 2-3 degrees better is pointless money burning.
@@nontoxic9960 premium products are not made to be best price to performance, it is made to be the best. Also they will send you mounting brackets lifetime, so it is kind buy one use forever product, but I agree, it doesn't make sense for most people who wants the best value.
Man, I love Noctua, my NH-U14S, and will continue buying their fans, but my god their prices just do not compete with the market and the performance we’re already seeing. Hopefully their numbers are modest and these coolers outperform everything, but even then, sheesh.
You're paying for the lifetime warranty that's pretty much it, and let me tell you it delivers. Ive had them sent me an AM4 mounting kit, free took less then a week, I've had a fan made bearing noise, again less then a week. Ive had 3 of their fans on my rad for about 6 years now, not a single issue.
They make some coolers which are a lot cheaper, and those coolers still come with high quality Noctua fans, and the legendary warranty and customer support. They will send you free adapter upgrade kits for new socket support, even if your product is past the end of its warranty! I speak from personal experience, after getting an upgrade kit which allowed me to add AM4 support to a CPU cooler which was made before the AM4 standard existed.
@@bluej511 Exactly. The fans last forever, i've not had one noctua fan die on me yet for over 10 years. Whereas i had gpu, case fans crap out within years. Noctua puts fans on gpus, psus, case fans i'll buy them over anything.
Thank you for finally acknowledging the existence of the new 120mm fans and that dual tower cooler, I keep seeing it in other videos from other channels but they never even glance at it, they keep looking at the D15 G2 which is exciting fair, but so is this. Thank you!
That pricing is just nonsense, but fanatics going to buy anyway. If your cpu can be cooled with air cooler, buying $150 cooler instead of $40 one that has same performance is just insane. If you have cpu that cant be cooled with air cooler, like 14900k. You buying 360mm aio, many of which cost way lower than $150. And please, dont talk about amazing service and support, or getting free mounting kit. They send you free mounting kit that cost like $5 to make, for cooler you paid $150. Id rather pay $40 for same cooler, and if needed in far future buy mounting kit for $5-7. Same with fans, you can buy ps120 for $35, even if fans fail in few years, you can buy two noctua fans for $30 total, and it still will be less than half of cost of D15 g2, or whatever better/quieter fans there will be. And you might get even better performance when ps120 with stock fans have same or better performance as D15, so with noctua fans it could be even more better.
This is cool and all (pun intended), especially the Thermosiphon, but Noctua really needs to get on the daisy-chain trend with their fans. A lot of ppl will buy fans that can link together over fans with better performance just to have fewer cables they need to manage.
Daisy chain is added bulk, proprietary connectors, expense, and isn't needed for non RGB fans. If you must, a simple 4pin fan splitter like on T30 is a superior solution imo.
I love Noctua but I am excited to see the new Thermalright coolers in comparison. They are supposed to cost 1/3 of the D15G2 and delivered insane performance in the past.
Noctua: “I just need some time to fix myself, please don’t give up on me.” Me: “I’m sorry babe… I can’t put my life on hold forever… I have to move on and live my life but I’ll always love you and remember the good times we had.” 😢
I wish they would have talked about performance differences between the NH-D15 G1 and the NH-D15 G2. For example, if someone previously was using a Core i7 14700K or a AMD Ryzen 9 7950X, on a D15 G1, would that user benefit meaningfully from the D15 G2, or should they just move to a 360mm AIO? Mainly wondering since at a $140 price point it is at the price point of major branded 360mm AIOs.
@@craeeg It was hinted at from some of the background images, though they don't offer enough detail, to accurately isolate heatsink improvements. How much of that improvement is coming from their newer fans with a much higher static pressure, as one popular mod that would give a 7C temperature drop on the NH-D15, was to switch from the stock fans, to their higher speed and significantly louder industrial fans, and with the NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM at 3000RPM vs the stock fans at 1500RPM, temperatures were significantly lower. (those industrial fans also have a significantly higher static pressure than the stock fans). Only issue is for that extra cooling, you have significantly more noise. Liquid cooling will always have its issues since the propylene glycol breaks down over time and gradually clogs the microfins thus reducing cooling efficiency over time, thus there is a desire to get good cooling from an air cooler. For a user on an NH-D15, the video still makes it hard to determine if they should upgrade to the G2, or buy the new fans and stick it on the G1 with offset mount when on AMD.
@@Razor2048 pretty sure just offset mount is the most reasonable upgrade to buy without spending a lot of money if you already have D15. At the end of the day, 2-3 degrees won't matter for every day use.
Seen some comments about their pricing and I get that it's high when compared to their competitors, but you need to consider this - with Noctua, you're getting an air cooler for life. So long as you want to use aircooling, no matter the platform, you just need to write in and request for the relevant mounting kit, FOC.
@@shiion6711 But the difference isn't a $5 mounting bracket, is it? You upgrade your PC, platform changes, and you need a new cooler, not a new mounting bracket. So you shell out another $50-$70, or more, for a new cooler. Next time you upgrade, the same thing happens. You've essentially spent more than $150 by now. I, on the other hand, just kept using the same $150 Noctua cooler. The same one that I can still use for my next platform change.
God this comment reeks of Noctua kool-aid. We have literally seen companies changing their cooler designs to accommodate for new CPU designs. It makes very little sense these days to buy a cooler and thinking it will work great in the future on chips that don't even exist when it would be much smarter to buy a new cooler that is optimized for the coolers that are coming out. You can easily buy 3-4 Thermalright coolers with every new CPU generation instead of one Noctua and know that it was optimized for the CPU that's coming out now rather than something that came out a decade ago. People need to stop making a big deal out of free mounting kits when the coolers themselves are so expensive.
The price may seem (and even be) very expensive, but if you (like me) want a good performance / silence ratio, these Noctua models seem to be the best on the market. Personally, I prefer to pay more and have as much silence as possible, without compromising on performance.
I absolutely LOVE this company. I don't buy AIO's or any other CPU air coolers. I only buy Noctua. Those fans are badass looking. They look wicked and aggressive. Love them! Go Noctua!!
I would love if Noctua created that 120 dual tower cooler reasonably soon, it looks absolutely awesome and chromax would sell like hotcakes. Currently I have NH-U12A chromax for my 7950X and its great, but the one that is sitting beside the D15 G2 I'm sure would be much better. I would get the G2, but no way would fit in my Lian Li Air mini, D15 was already tight, so for now my current cooler has to do till the dual 120 is available, hopefully sometimes in 2025. Thank you Noctua and thanks Hardware Canucks!!!
7 -8 years passed my noctua fans still works and silent ..cream brown color was good since pc case side doors were not see through .. black or grey premium fans available ? other than redux ?
Ive found the hard way that even Noctua fans have the same issues as all other brands. They work, untill they dont. Randomly. The chance of failure is exactly the same if not more, cuz Noctua does all those little things optimizing everything. Unfortunately too many things can go wrong when delivery service takes those fans to the end user. This is life. In my experience 2 out of 3 fans starts to die in the very first year (produce strange noise where there wasnt any extra noise before at the same speed----Im not talking about a complete failure, but giving the price, loud(failed after some use) Noctua may as well end up in a trashcan), some--1 out of 3--even erlier than that, 1-3 months, say bye bye. What I ended up using is D15 with s SINGLE fan in the middle. 2nd intake fan (near the ram slots) died on me after 4 or 5 months. What is sad is Dual Tower coolers produce more noise by default. Something about 2 seperate fans having different speeds at the same RPM settings. In other words push/pull configuration produce extra noise you would never experience with a Single Tower design. So when 1 our of 2 fans starts failing on you, the noise becomes extra unberable. Simply lowering RPM wont work anymore. Let's say your fan starts getting very loud at 25 to 50% RPM. What are u gonna do about it? 24 is too low. 51% and above -- too loud for a background noise in a day to day use. All Im saying is a single tower design cooler is a KING. less is more, and dont think Noctua fans are whisper quiet. 140mm fans are louder than 120m at the same air pressure. Not louder by much, but every little thing counts in the end. A single 140 or 120mm Noctua fan on top of something like D15 is a King for your money and ears. Their newer 120mm dual tower doesnt even have space to suck air for a middle fan. I dont see that cooler working with a single fan at all. What a waste. Not to say I dont love Noctua as a whole. I went out of my way to open-up power supply unit, and changed stock 120m 3-pin fan with Noctua best static pressure 120mm. 2 yrs later -- works like a charm. Not that I would recommend doing the same to any other PSU. Mine was just ungodly loud cuz it was rly, rly cheap. Some random debrand $20-25 PSU. And I had at the time an extra Noctua fan... so... yeah
NH-D15 G2 review out and... That video title aged like fine milk. Boss mode having trouble beating a 40$ cooler by 1c when another 50$ cooler already beats it by 3c.
The reason amd's cpus aren't doing that is because the ihs is 3x thicker. That's really bad for cooling. And you'll notice the effect of all this is like one degree. The only people who really care about are people who view getting that 1 degree as their hobby.
Have to be honest. With companies like Thermalright making cheap air coolers with fantastic temps, even if Noctua takes that top spot again in terms of thermals their prices won't make sense especially if it's only by a few degrees over coolers that are less than half the cost with better visual appeal as well.
Expensive, but I trust this brand more than I do some of these other minimum wage brands. Noctua Is the gold standard as everyone else is just an alternative.
I'd like to think the marketing departments of other hardware companies see this and go "BORING" but it's actually really cool even if it looks really fucking nerdy, especially that AIO.
in the thermosiphon i assume the liquid phase would have to completely cover the cpu area, it reminded me of old xmas tree ornaments that had a little light bulb at the bottom and it would bubble up a vertical tube. it was pretty to watch. wonder if they could make a clear version of the siphon would it look pretty too
Hopefully if Noctua brings the thermosiphon AIO to market, it'll be user-serviceable. Pump failure is just one way AIOs can fail. Gaskets and O-rings can perish, coolant slowly diffuses through tube walls, clogs can develop.
The Thermosiphon certainly sounds fascinating. But won't fan failure be even more catastrophic than pump failure? Won't the temperature instantly shoot up like 100 degrees? So it will become mandatory to replace fans every 4 years or so regardless of how much life they still exhibit?
I presume that the radiator has enough passive heat dissipation to prevent such failures, even in the case that two fans have somehow failed simultaneously.
@@AlphaMachina Its their identity and its working great. What other company do you associate with brown colors? Actually whenever you see brown pc parts, you know it's Noctua. They literally claimed a whole color for themselfs. Well, "Bossmode" is indeed a bit dated xd
Sure If you like minimum wage products from a minimum wage company as Noctua Is the gold standard as your minimum wage favorite is an alternative. I'll be embarrassed to use a product from your minimum wage company.
@@jamesm568 Hi, thank you for your input. I have no info about wages of Thermalright's employees, nor of Noctua's. But I would suggest you to reevaluate your opinion about Noctua's actual results vs marketing in light of the developments of the past few years. I did that, and I changed my mind. Of course I could be wrong. By the way, I just found out that Thermalright has already presented an even newer line up of cooler. Crazy. I'm in no way affiliate to Thermalright, nor to Noctua or any other company. I just care for the better cooling performance (preferably without rbg or other nonsense) because, if possible, I would like to keep using air coolers.
@@jamesm568Sorry to break your bubble, but Thermalright has been on the coolers market for DECADES. It's even older than Noctua. Thermalright is a Taiwanese company, like all the big guys in the hardware market. Calling them out makes no sense. 😆
@@anastasy2 I said Thermalright was an old school company, but they have lost their mojo for years as people don't consider them a premium company these days. Thermalright is not a person's first choice when picking computer components as they are a great alternative. Computer enthusiast don't associate quality and Thermalright in the same sentence for years.
@@anastasy2 Don't get me wrong as I use Thermalright products myself when building computers that are less than $1,000. I trust Thermalright products more than any Corsair product.
This is all so overpriced compared to their market competition. That thermosiphon though, can command the premium. Not having pump noise or failure risk in a 240 rad would be worth money.
Cooler Master was once the king of cases. Before that it was Antec, and Chieftec before that. Corsair was once the King of AIO cooler. DFI was once the King of motherboards. Asus is falling from grace. Nothing lasts forever in the PC hardware space. Special shout out to EK, because they were never became the king of watercooling.
Finally got with the times, about 3 generations too late lol. That D15 cold plate is the size of my techn watercooler block, only took them about 5+ years.
After seeing all these "fans" willing to pay $150 for an air cooler, I can see why Noctua is trying to position itself as the Apple of air coolers or the god of air coolers to milk these clueless fanboys. They can't even design a fricking fan for years while their competitors offer the same performance for $30-$40 with innovation every year.
Yes Noctua must be doing something wrong to be able to put the same designs in the market for years without changing anything and still offer good performance, it sure sucks to be able to use the same cooler on many builds. One day I'll get to ditch my NH-D14 so I can enjoy a new shiny cheap ass air cooler.
Looking forward to the D15 G2 reviews, even though after many years, I said goodbye to Noctua and went liquid. As suspected, it's also great news that they started to experiment on liquid. I guess they realised that they need to do something to remain competitive. These recent CPUs are getting increasingly difficult to cool.
There is a thing that´s not true. The IR photos show the preassure, not the deformation. There may be a preassure difference but the cooler still has contact to the IHS. So it´s a bit lot marketing here and the temperature differences between the cooler designs would be very very small as you see in 12:08
i had my nhd 14 for over 10 years and only sold it cuz moved to mini itx, where I got another noctua. its still working in some other chaps rig..so no, noctua ain't expensive its the best value you can get.
The Thermosiphon cooler is something I genuinely want so much. It's the best of both world when it comes to air and water-cooling, no risk of pump failure. Count me in!
It sounds like a cool project. We'll see how it turns out. Without the fast flow provided by a pump it could gunk up unless they find remedies. Not to mention how to get competitive temps versus pump-based AIOs.
Man I would kill for that thermosiphon but that is probably five years away.
@@passerby6168 this is also my main concern, but I trust that Noctua can find a way to solve that.
Especially the 360 version. Hopefully it comes out soon and not in 10 years.
I'm very very interested in the thermalsiphon.
If anyone can make this work , and I can trust that it will work reliability it is Noctua.
Noctua is such a wholesome company. Their marketing strategy is just to make great products with amazing warranty support and customer support, and then their engineers don't need to give us any bullshit, and can just market their products by being completely honest and transparent about the products.
and by overpicing them.
@@EdeN_2006 cry
@@EdeN_2006womp womp
@@EdeN_2006 True, if you don't value their long-term platform support and warranty. With Noctua, you can basically buy one cooler and reuse it for 10+ years if you wish. Maybe you need to swap a fan or two, but still, I like it.
They really are the complete opposite to 'buy cheap buy twice' and I love them for it
ASUS would be the undisputed kings of PC enthusiasts if they had the same "quality for the costumer first" mentality that Noctua have.
Damn price tags on these coolers are insane. But I guess that what you get for going noctua.
It is called get a job.
you get that lifetime warranty and socket support for even the oldest coolers. thats what you pay for, next to the engineering. Plus other high-end air-coolers are not far off price-wise, but yes noctua tends to be the highest
@@challenger516Salty, much?
@@stephenwakeman3074 "Salty" because he thinks Noctua products are expensive? You need to go back to English class and work on your vocabulary, dude 😂
@@nniklask Right, Noctua is totally worth it. People spend thousands of dollars on CPU and GPU but first dude think a Noctua cooler with a $150 price tag is insane lol.
I think Noctua should colder code LBC in red and HBC in blue for the packaging so that it’s instantly a clear message. Dear Noctua, please take note of my suggestion. Thanks
That Thermosiphon is far and away the most exciting product here
My eyes are on Thermosiphon. Knowing how proficient Noctua is, this will be a blast once completed.
I cant wait ❤❤❤❤ a new immortal god after noctua air coolers❤❤ this will be the ultimate god after noctuas....imagine liquids and aios or custom loops will be long forgotten when noctua and thermopsiilon will rule the world
150€ for a two fan air cooler is crazy
Yeah. I am questioning Noctua's relevance these days.
Huh? I would get a job.
@@nsevv You should get a job and stop sounding like an a$$
@@nsevv Its still expensive regardless of what you make. Coolers of comparable quality cost $40 now. $150 for the same performance, even 2-3 degrees better is pointless money burning.
@@nontoxic9960 premium products are not made to be best price to performance, it is made to be the best. Also they will send you mounting brackets lifetime, so it is kind buy one use forever product, but I agree, it doesn't make sense for most people who wants the best value.
Man, I love Noctua, my NH-U14S, and will continue buying their fans, but my god their prices just do not compete with the market and the performance we’re already seeing. Hopefully their numbers are modest and these coolers outperform everything, but even then, sheesh.
You're paying for the lifetime warranty that's pretty much it, and let me tell you it delivers. Ive had them sent me an AM4 mounting kit, free took less then a week, I've had a fan made bearing noise, again less then a week. Ive had 3 of their fans on my rad for about 6 years now, not a single issue.
They make some coolers which are a lot cheaper, and those coolers still come with high quality Noctua fans, and the legendary warranty and customer support.
They will send you free adapter upgrade kits for new socket support, even if your product is past the end of its warranty! I speak from personal experience, after getting an upgrade kit which allowed me to add AM4 support to a CPU cooler which was made before the AM4 standard existed.
@@bluej511 Exactly. The fans last forever, i've not had one noctua fan die on me yet for over 10 years. Whereas i had gpu, case fans crap out within years. Noctua puts fans on gpus, psus, case fans i'll buy them over anything.
@@bluej511 That’s fair!
I really want to see in the market the Noctua Thermosiphon Project. Since I rather build SFF PC I feel like it go great with ITX builds.
Thank you for finally acknowledging the existence of the new 120mm fans and that dual tower cooler, I keep seeing it in other videos from other channels but they never even glance at it, they keep looking at the D15 G2 which is exciting fair, but so is this. Thank you!
That pricing is just nonsense, but fanatics going to buy anyway.
If your cpu can be cooled with air cooler, buying $150 cooler instead of $40 one that has same performance is just insane.
If you have cpu that cant be cooled with air cooler, like 14900k. You buying 360mm aio, many of which cost way lower than $150.
And please, dont talk about amazing service and support, or getting free mounting kit. They send you free mounting kit that cost like $5 to make, for cooler you paid $150.
Id rather pay $40 for same cooler, and if needed in far future buy mounting kit for $5-7.
Same with fans, you can buy ps120 for $35, even if fans fail in few years, you can buy two noctua fans for $30 total, and it still will be less than half of cost of D15 g2, or whatever better/quieter fans there will be.
And you might get even better performance when ps120 with stock fans have same or better performance as D15, so with noctua fans it could be even more better.
This is cool and all (pun intended), especially the Thermosiphon, but Noctua really needs to get on the daisy-chain trend with their fans. A lot of ppl will buy fans that can link together over fans with better performance just to have fewer cables they need to manage.
Daisy chain is added bulk, proprietary connectors, expense, and isn't needed for non RGB fans. If you must, a simple 4pin fan splitter like on T30 is a superior solution imo.
@@jeremytine um, no. daisy chain is fewer cables. rgb or not
@@playerzero0000 the pogo pin fad has all the problem I said.
At that price it’d better be more than 5 degrees cooler than any other cooler on the market. Haven’t they seen the performance of the competition?
it wont be lol
Spoiler. The Noctua won't cool any better but it will sound nicer.
@@cemsengul16exactly. That’s the main selling point of Noctua. Not amazingly better performance, but totally silent performance.
@@Stepher45
..those fans are also reliable. They'll work perfectly 100 hundred years after heath death of the universe.
@@cemsengul16 i hope so
I love Noctua but I am excited to see the new Thermalright coolers in comparison. They are supposed to cost 1/3 of the D15G2 and delivered insane performance in the past.
Noctua: “I just need some time to fix myself, please don’t give up on me.”
Me: “I’m sorry babe… I can’t put my life on hold forever… I have to move on and live my life but I’ll always love you and remember the good times we had.” 😢
Great interview and great presentation. That was so informative and well delivered, with timestamps!
I wish they would have talked about performance differences between the NH-D15 G1 and the NH-D15 G2. For example, if someone previously was using a Core i7 14700K or a AMD Ryzen 9 7950X, on a D15 G1, would that user benefit meaningfully from the D15 G2, or should they just move to a 360mm AIO? Mainly wondering since at a $140 price point it is at the price point of major branded 360mm AIOs.
It's in the video
@@craeeg It was hinted at from some of the background images, though they don't offer enough detail, to accurately isolate heatsink improvements. How much of that improvement is coming from their newer fans with a much higher static pressure, as one popular mod that would give a 7C temperature drop on the NH-D15, was to switch from the stock fans, to their higher speed and significantly louder industrial fans, and with the NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM at 3000RPM vs the stock fans at 1500RPM, temperatures were significantly lower. (those industrial fans also have a significantly higher static pressure than the stock fans). Only issue is for that extra cooling, you have significantly more noise.
Liquid cooling will always have its issues since the propylene glycol breaks down over time and gradually clogs the microfins thus reducing cooling efficiency over time, thus there is a desire to get good cooling from an air cooler.
For a user on an NH-D15, the video still makes it hard to determine if they should upgrade to the G2, or buy the new fans and stick it on the G1 with offset mount when on AMD.
@@Razor2048 pretty sure just offset mount is the most reasonable upgrade to buy without spending a lot of money if you already have D15. At the end of the day, 2-3 degrees won't matter for every day use.
I wish and hope Noctua make a 420mm thermosiphon. I like having all fans 140mm, it has a more pleasant hum.
Cant belive this guys just transformed flatenes tolerance deviation in 3 sub categories
I love Noctua, but $150 is crazy...
Seen some comments about their pricing and I get that it's high when compared to their competitors, but you need to consider this - with Noctua, you're getting an air cooler for life. So long as you want to use aircooling, no matter the platform, you just need to write in and request for the relevant mounting kit, FOC.
Nice how much extra are you paying for a $5 mounting bracket?
@@shiion6711 But the difference isn't a $5 mounting bracket, is it? You upgrade your PC, platform changes, and you need a new cooler, not a new mounting bracket. So you shell out another $50-$70, or more, for a new cooler. Next time you upgrade, the same thing happens. You've essentially spent more than $150 by now. I, on the other hand, just kept using the same $150 Noctua cooler. The same one that I can still use for my next platform change.
@@shiion6711 a lot of companies literally dont even make a new bracket that wroks on their older hardware so you can't buy it
God this comment reeks of Noctua kool-aid. We have literally seen companies changing their cooler designs to accommodate for new CPU designs. It makes very little sense these days to buy a cooler and thinking it will work great in the future on chips that don't even exist when it would be much smarter to buy a new cooler that is optimized for the coolers that are coming out. You can easily buy 3-4 Thermalright coolers with every new CPU generation instead of one Noctua and know that it was optimized for the CPU that's coming out now rather than something that came out a decade ago. People need to stop making a big deal out of free mounting kits when the coolers themselves are so expensive.
The price may seem (and even be) very expensive, but if you (like me) want a good performance / silence ratio, these Noctua models seem to be the best on the market. Personally, I prefer to pay more and have as much silence as possible, without compromising on performance.
When black version of the G2?
Q1 2025 probably, At least that's what Noctua said.
pretty good was expecting 5 years or so you know from a lot of "brown" experience
2025 and it will be more expensive than the regular G2, so I guess around $175-180
I absolutely LOVE this company. I don't buy AIO's or any other CPU air coolers. I only buy Noctua. Those fans are badass looking. They look wicked and aggressive. Love them! Go Noctua!!
I would love if Noctua created that 120 dual tower cooler reasonably soon, it looks absolutely awesome and chromax would sell like hotcakes. Currently I have NH-U12A chromax for my 7950X and its great, but the one that is sitting beside the D15 G2 I'm sure would be much better. I would get the G2, but no way would fit in my Lian Li Air mini, D15 was already tight, so for now my current cooler has to do till the dual 120 is available, hopefully sometimes in 2025.
Thank you Noctua and thanks Hardware Canucks!!!
7 -8 years passed my noctua fans still works and silent ..cream brown color was good since pc case side doors were not see through .. black or grey premium fans available ? other than redux ?
Ive found the hard way that even Noctua fans have the same issues as all other brands. They work, untill they dont. Randomly. The chance of failure is exactly the same if not more, cuz Noctua does all those little things optimizing everything.
Unfortunately too many things can go wrong when delivery service takes those fans to the end user. This is life.
In my experience 2 out of 3 fans starts to die in the very first year (produce strange noise where there wasnt any extra noise before at the same speed----Im not talking about a complete failure, but giving the price, loud(failed after some use) Noctua may as well end up in a trashcan), some--1 out of 3--even erlier than that, 1-3 months, say bye bye.
What I ended up using is D15 with s SINGLE fan in the middle. 2nd intake fan (near the ram slots) died on me after 4 or 5 months. What is sad is Dual Tower coolers produce more noise by default. Something about 2 seperate fans having different speeds at the same RPM settings. In other words push/pull configuration produce extra noise you would never experience with a Single Tower design. So when 1 our of 2 fans starts failing on you, the noise becomes extra unberable. Simply lowering RPM wont work anymore. Let's say your fan starts getting very loud at 25 to 50% RPM. What are u gonna do about it? 24 is too low. 51% and above -- too loud for a background noise in a day to day use.
All Im saying is a single tower design cooler is a KING. less is more, and dont think Noctua fans are whisper quiet. 140mm fans are louder than 120m at the same air pressure. Not louder by much, but every little thing counts in the end. A single 140 or 120mm Noctua fan on top of something like D15 is a King for your money and ears. Their newer 120mm dual tower doesnt even have space to suck air for a middle fan. I dont see that cooler working with a single fan at all. What a waste.
Not to say I dont love Noctua as a whole. I went out of my way to open-up power supply unit, and changed stock 120m 3-pin fan with Noctua best static pressure 120mm. 2 yrs later -- works like a charm. Not that I would recommend doing the same to any other PSU. Mine was just ungodly loud cuz it was rly, rly cheap. Some random debrand $20-25 PSU. And I had at the time an extra Noctua fan... so... yeah
NH-D15 G2 review out and...
That video title aged like fine milk.
Boss mode having trouble beating a 40$ cooler by 1c when another 50$ cooler already beats it by 3c.
Thermalright:
"Yawn.
We are NOT selling,but GIVING you 3 newest revolutionary aircoolers and additional 35$ just for the kicks." .
had a thought, thermosiphon, SFF
why is no one really focusing on the 120mm fans and prototype dual tower cooler with 8 heatpipes or the thermophysian icegiant prosyphon competitor
Thanks Intel for adding another reason not to buy your CPUs 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah I mean how are we supposed to know which mount we need? Does Noctua expect us to do lab pressure tests?
The reason amd's cpus aren't doing that is because the ihs is 3x thicker. That's really bad for cooling. And you'll notice the effect of all this is like one degree. The only people who really care about are people who view getting that 1 degree as their hobby.
Have to be honest. With companies like Thermalright making cheap air coolers with fantastic temps, even if Noctua takes that top spot again in terms of thermals their prices won't make sense especially if it's only by a few degrees over coolers that are less than half the cost with better visual appeal as well.
Expensive, but I trust this brand more than I do some of these other minimum wage brands. Noctua Is the gold standard as everyone else is just an alternative.
Mike, where is your review of the NH D15 G2? Can't wait for it to release!!!
I'd like to think the marketing departments of other hardware companies see this and go "BORING" but it's actually really cool even if it looks really fucking nerdy, especially that AIO.
Waiting for the Chromax versions!
You will die waiting
GPU is the noisy one, really annoying we can't swap them out without a lot of work
Id noctu changes to a black colored coolers they would sell double the amount of units
Noctua Jakob must be so tired havhing to tell the same story over and over again to every got damn tech youtuber lol!
Think he’s been to enough trade shows now and knows to expect it. It’s how they work.
Noctua reverse fans when?
When you turn them around.
@@nimrodery and look at the ugliness
Shut up an take my money now !! ... Chromax Black ??
Hello, everyone ! 🌞😉👍
Very good !
I really like it
I really L❤️VE Moctua
still waiting for white noctua fans T_T
*Already picked up a Scythe Fuma 3, after watching YOUR review...*
Many thanks.
Noctua is at it again!
Thermalright engineer: lol 😂
I hope the Thermosiphon is compatible with multiple orientations, specifically front mounted with a push pull set up.
Gotta love fans still looks Line they come from a smoking home😂
in the thermosiphon i assume the liquid phase would have to completely cover the cpu area, it reminded me of old xmas tree ornaments that had a little light bulb at the bottom and it would bubble up a vertical tube. it was pretty to watch. wonder if they could make a clear version of the siphon would it look pretty too
9:12 - A good well educated person who admits contact frames can have a positive effect along with negative.
Yikes. Thermalright been giving us the same or better cooling performance for a third of the cost.
I love when companies deploy actual engineers into their booths on these shows rather than marketing people.
Hopefully if Noctua brings the thermosiphon AIO to market, it'll be user-serviceable. Pump failure is just one way AIOs can fail. Gaskets and O-rings can perish, coolant slowly diffuses through tube walls, clogs can develop.
I always looked at an AIO as disposable as they're so cheap and replaceable.
Hello, is there any news on the passive cooling PC, case or anything?
The Thermosiphon certainly sounds fascinating. But won't fan failure be even more catastrophic than pump failure? Won't the temperature instantly shoot up like 100 degrees? So it will become mandatory to replace fans every 4 years or so regardless of how much life they still exhibit?
I presume that the radiator has enough passive heat dissipation to prevent such failures, even in the case that two fans have somehow failed simultaneously.
Unless Hardware Canucks or Gamers Nexus review the cooler, all other reviews are pointless
give me a break
@@WASD-MVME sure, where do you want it?
@@WASD-MVME it's true, tell me one more channel with a more detailed review of air coolers. One.
@@jacksun_jack where there isn't gamers nexus simps running around
@@WASD-MVME if you're looking for people that care, you haven't found them, toodles.
happy to switch water cooling whe Noctua release one.
I'm ONLY interested in the Thermosiphon. SO GET IT RELEASED ASAP. ALSO. Make them available for the RTX 5090. THANK YOU.
"Boss Mode"?! is this 2016?
Yeah, this sh-t is so dated. Noctua seriously need to update their design.
@@AlphaMachina Its their identity and its working great. What other company do you associate with brown colors?
Actually whenever you see brown pc parts, you know it's Noctua. They literally claimed a whole color for themselfs.
Well, "Bossmode" is indeed a bit dated xd
Noctua is living in the past with those prices related to performance.
F**cking nerds!!!!…I love it! ❤
$150 yea nah
They have also had a Seasonic Power Supply
Hi Mike, can't wait to see yout test these :)
$150 😂No thank you 🤣
$150 for an ugly and bulky air cooler 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡 I have seen everything now
So, for three times the price, is Noctua finally capable of beating the Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120?
Sure If you like minimum wage products from a minimum wage company as Noctua Is the gold standard as your minimum wage favorite is an alternative. I'll be embarrassed to use a product from your minimum wage company.
@@jamesm568 Hi, thank you for your input. I have no info about wages of Thermalright's employees, nor of Noctua's. But I would suggest you to reevaluate your opinion about Noctua's actual results vs marketing in light of the developments of the past few years. I did that, and I changed my mind. Of course I could be wrong.
By the way, I just found out that Thermalright has already presented an even newer line up of cooler. Crazy.
I'm in no way affiliate to Thermalright, nor to Noctua or any other company. I just care for the better cooling performance (preferably without rbg or other nonsense) because, if possible, I would like to keep using air coolers.
@@jamesm568Sorry to break your bubble, but Thermalright has been on the coolers market for DECADES. It's even older than Noctua. Thermalright is a Taiwanese company, like all the big guys in the hardware market. Calling them out makes no sense. 😆
@@anastasy2 I said Thermalright was an old school company, but they have lost their mojo for years as people don't consider them a premium company these days. Thermalright is not a person's first choice when picking computer components as they are a great alternative. Computer enthusiast don't associate quality and Thermalright in the same sentence for years.
@@anastasy2 Don't get me wrong as I use Thermalright products myself when building computers that are less than $1,000. I trust Thermalright products more than any Corsair product.
149 is outrageous
Noctua❤
Oooooverrated air coolers.
A good liquid 360mm AIO will easily out-cool any air cooler for less than $120.
But it will make more noise.
@@nossy232323 wrong. Modern pumps are silent and because of the increased radiator surface area - fans can actually run slower and quieter
Very true, but will it still be useable for future builds in 5 or 10 years time, like Noctua products have been?
@@8020Alive I need to look into it. Can you give me an example of an AIO that is more silent than a D15 cooler and performs at least as well?
This is all so overpriced compared to their market competition.
That thermosiphon though, can command the premium. Not having pump noise or failure risk in a 240 rad would be worth money.
Noctua will be always the king of cooler!!
Nope
The king of AIR cooler. Well, not even close. Thermalright beat them for half the price. 😅
Cooler Master was once the king of cases. Before that it was Antec, and Chieftec before that. Corsair was once the King of AIO cooler. DFI was once the King of motherboards. Asus is falling from grace. Nothing lasts forever in the PC hardware space.
Special shout out to EK, because they were never became the king of watercooling.
Finally got with the times, about 3 generations too late lol. That D15 cold plate is the size of my techn watercooler block, only took them about 5+ years.
I could never put those ugly coolers in my PC lol
Cringe title...
After seeing all these "fans" willing to pay $150 for an air cooler, I can see why Noctua is trying to position itself as the Apple of air coolers or the god of air coolers to milk these clueless fanboys. They can't even design a fricking fan for years while their competitors offer the same performance for $30-$40 with innovation every year.
Yes Noctua must be doing something wrong to be able to put the same designs in the market for years without changing anything and still offer good performance, it sure sucks to be able to use the same cooler on many builds. One day I'll get to ditch my NH-D14 so I can enjoy a new shiny cheap ass air cooler.
Looking forward to the D15 G2 reviews, even though after many years, I said goodbye to Noctua and went liquid.
As suspected, it's also great news that they started to experiment on liquid. I guess they realised that they need to do something to remain competitive. These recent CPUs are getting increasingly difficult to cool.
There is a thing that´s not true. The IR photos show the preassure, not the deformation. There may be a preassure difference but the cooler still has contact to the IHS. So it´s a bit lot marketing here and the temperature differences between the cooler designs would be very very small as you see in 12:08
WHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITE :(
i had my nhd 14 for over 10 years and only sold it cuz moved to mini itx, where I got another noctua. its still working in some other chaps rig..so no, noctua ain't expensive its the best value you can get.
Too long! I got a lot of computex videos to get through and very little time.
An idea for the Thermosiphon : use tubes that contain a metalbased spiral shape inside it.
Perhaps that way it helps with sustained high temperatures.
Thermalright shits on them for 1/5 of the money.
Not even going to talk about Arctic AIO's...
Any company spoke person without beard now get minus 1 from me
BIDEN 2024‼️
back to the old shitty colors?
Noctua just created solution for problem wich is not exist. Just use thermal paste.
Not how it works ;)