Trying to FIX - Broken REXEL Confetti Cut Paper Shredder
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Hi, in this video today I attempt to fix a broken confetti cut shredder purchased from eBay. It was advertised as no power, but it is making plenty of noise, so it must be some other problem.
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Remember that this is just for entertainment and I am not an expert in these repairs. The processes in the video may not be the best way, the correct way or the safest way to fix these things. I do love fault finding and trying to fix broken things, so I hope that comes across in this 'Trying to FIX' series. Many thanks, Vince.
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This right here is proof why this channel is the best. The weirdest, strangest and most curious items on display, only here, on My Mate Vince.
Hi vince, I recommend you do a revisit. But next time make a silicone mold. Then you can use resin to make the new gear. I've seen many people do that with great success. Kind regards. Paul.
I would love to see Vince branch out too. Please up vote this comment.
The resin is weaker than the already weak plastic gears Rexel used here, a 3D printed wheel will likely be destroyed fairly quickly, though I guess it would demonstrate that it was the real issue. There are several 3D printing methods that would work for this but they all require extremely expensive hardware (basically metal 3D printers).
Basically, ALL cheap shredders use plastic gears which is pretty much always the first thing to give, it's pretty much a question "you want it to last - buy a more expensive model which will have proper metal gears". And since we could hear the motor running but the shredder part didn't move it was pretty much guaranteed as soon it was turned on.
The auto function can sometimes break first, but usually there's ways to bypass that (most have separate "on" and "auto" functions) OR it fails "open" like this, so it's really planned obsolence, the plastic wheel WILL break at some point, sooner or later someone will feed it too many papers at the same time.
The metal gear ones usually stall out the motor (insufficient torque), the cheap plastic ones... loose one or more cogs.
I was going to suggest the same repair process, epoxy may work
That gear repair looked amazing, I was as sure as you that it was going to work! A valiant effort either way, Vince. I would definitely have given up way before you did! 😊
Cheers Steve, I was so pleased with it...and then it lasted 20 seconds!!!! 🤣👍👍
🤣 but what a 20 seconds it was! 😁
@@Mymatevince probably this gear are nylon reinforced with glass fiber and this do not like glue (weak bound) and this gear have no reason at all to be nylon other than breaking to make the consumer buy an new one this nylon gear can also cost more than a metal one sometimes I wonder why they do waste so much resources for this kind of devices 1 metal gear and this last the life of the cutting devices like 5-10 year because the paper is abrasive and will sand to death the cutting element too bad but we have cool video to look ;p
I knew when you said lets try to fold it like 4 pages, that was when it was going to break. Like you said, you could have stopped the video then and we wouldn't have known. I like your honesty.
Really impressed with the honesty that Vince employs in the making of his videos, respect!
Good to see the warning sign against using it on your head, I was just thinking what would happen if I shredded me head.
That looked perfect, I was on your side with giving it a bath. Thought it would have lasted longer than just a few sheets. Such a shame but still much appreciated for the video and the views on the guts inside of these.
I enjoyed it immensely every time the shredder shouted at you for putting in 4 sheets 😂 I learnt a lot though, I think our work shredder needs a new gear. It was under warranty and they've replaced the shredder for new and let us keep the old one. I'm going to try and fix it so we have an extra, fingers crossed. Learnt some important stuff here, thank you.
Hi Vince, I discovered you approx. 1-2 months ago and I've seen about 80% of your videos(I'm addicted). As a child I used to teardown my toys etc to see how they functioned and still do as an adult. Never seem to be able to fix/put them back together but it's fun nonetheless. Your videos inspire me both to save costs and to save the environment. Keep up the good work Vince 👍
Thanks Vince, tried fixing mine today after watching your video. Same problem in the end. Broken teeth on the wheel. Had to give up. But thanks for your help anyway! I call that planned obsolescence!
DUDE!!!!
That was the best.
Please try to mold a new gear from epoxy, or shape one out of a solid surface material like Corian.
You are such a blessing sir!
Not even my mate Vince can fix everything. Still enjoyed it. Your perseverance is incredible. 👍
Another amazing example of planned obsolescence at work. Nice upload Vince.
It’s not always about the fix, I really enjoyed this video great entertainment value. I have learnt so much from watching your videos Vince, the losses can be as valuable as the wins
The point where you inserted the magazine cover and the tooth snapped was just golden, very funny. Well you clearly learn a lot from these repairs and we can learn a lot too. Do you ever try to teach your children or other members of your family how to fix things?
Thank you SOOOOO much for the entertaining fun! I had one of these strip the gear just like yours years ago. (I never bought a replacement when the rep told me they don't sell the gears)
When you decided to attempt to repair that gear, I just can't describe my reaction! I just loved it! Thank you again for making my day! Absolutely brilliant!!
Hi Vince, thanks for a very informative video. I had a different problem with my Rexel (working only in reverse). But after watching your video I decided to have a go. I especially liked the fact that you showed exactly how to open it up and where all the bits had to go. I am now very happy that I have yet again a working shredder and didn't have to throw it away. Keep up the good work. Regards, Sylvia
Another great video. Hate that it didn't work, but it was still a valiant effort and a good video.
Vince, you should find a big gear that has the teeth the same size, chop off a slice(just like a cake) and splice that in. Worked for me on a model helicopter.
Such great fun, Vince. I love your willingness to soldier on. Laughed out loud when it died for the second time!
I audibly said "Oh No..." When the gear stripped the first time... I smacked my forehead when it went the second time.
How did I miss this =O Nice surprise watch =D And for Vince's next trick - walking on water!!! I spoke too soon lol! Amazing work on that gear! In something that doesnt have so much torque that would have been a lasting fix for sure!
Pins were my first thought for the repair. Thanks for trying!
Despite your failures this was one of your most entertaining videos! To be honest i was sure it was going to work when you q-bonded the gear. Your videos are better for their honest approach to fixing.
Great video, one of my favourites. A top notch effort. I had a similar shredder with a similar fault that turned out to be a stripped cog. I didn't make any attempt to fix it, but when I saw your fix I thought "dam he's fixed it!". Dremel is a great tool I have had one in one shape or another for 20+ years, I'm sure you'll get lots of use from it. Another great try to fix video. Thanks for keeping us entertained.
Cheers Roger, I was sure it would last...🤣 I might have another attempt using some metal cut/keyed into the gear. That might work better👍
@@Mymatevince You certainly have some patience and persistence (See Andy Pandy). I think that is one of the many reasons you are so popular. Lesson for me to learn there. I hope to get a storage locker soon, so i can keep some of my failures for later revisits too. I have run out of room in the flat.
Superglue and bicarbonate of soda can be used to build up material and the resulting mess can be filed and sanded to shape.
The gear repair looked so good! I was so hopeful!
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My oh my, too bad it didn't last :( For me getting to know about that Q-Bond thingy was worth the video. And I really thought it would last as well but it seems to me it's a bad design having the metal gear against the plastic one like that, I think that if they were both plastic there's a chance it would last a bit more, not so sure. Amazing video and I would have given up before trying the metal pins. All in all, I had a lot of fun watching it!
Thanks Felipe 👍👍
you could make a mould of it and some how use that mould to cast a new metal one
A whole lot of work if you don't already own the means to melt the metal though. I thought the same, the classic youtube soda can recycle.
Be careful with your new tool Vince! I winced a little bit when you were using it so close to your hand. One slip and you would have severely hurt yourself. Might be worth getting a little vice grip or at least some heavy duty gloves when doing stuff like that. Too bad about the gear. Perhaps some proper 2-part epoxy would have been strong enough to last?
Using it close to your hand may be necessary at times BUT WEAR SAFETY GLASSES! Those cut off wheels can EXPLODE and cause really bad eye injury. Little worse than cutting your finger.
@@grimwraith1 Indeed, i have had nasty cut under my eye from wheel just like this .. :)
i had a rexel shredder and contacted them as i was able to order one , cost me 9 quid .
I just love the trumpet player 😂😂
it worked while it lasted, still a good job vince
Keep up the good work fella and stay safe. I’d rather see these fettled than landfilled so every fix is a win!
Edit…. Ah well.
I'm afraid you encountered the Planned Obsolescence Gear (tm) that is installed into all consumer products. This one is just more obvious than others. Love the channel, thanks for the honesty. Cheers!
Great effort. I think they have to put plastic gears as a safety mechanism in case you get your tie caught in the machine. Very amusing dialog in this one. Thumbs up.
Definitely, they design similar linkages on petrol & diesel engines to protect damage to the transmission parts.
Do wish Vince would look into getting a 3d printer, so many of the failed repairs could potentially be fixed with a printed plastic part. Though equally the quirky hacks he then resorts to are quite entertaining.
With what Vince mentioned in the video, the cog is quite chunky so printed one should be fine, the metal centre bit can be pushed in using the heat from the soldering iron to heat up the metal part.
@@benwainwright2314 I gotta agree with Vince that the print medium might be too weak to hold up to the forces put on the gears. Though I don't have any experience with it personally. It seems like a big investment to create a few plastic parts once in a while.
first time I’ve seen you mate,obviously I’d a problem with my rexel so tracked you down,really enjoyed your vid so informative,and more impressive because you really tried everything,such a pity it still stripped the gear,I’ve subscribed so keep up the great work!,kindest regards Derek….
Wow that’s pretty impressive rebuilding the gear I have the same machine sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t thanks for sharing Vince
I am still impressed you were able to repair that cog at all
I was given a non-working Fellowes professional office confetti shredder about a year ago, with exactly the same problem (along with a similar plastic gear rather than a nice machined metal one - so much for high-end products - they're just as crap quality as the cheap consumer stuff). Anyway I designed and 3D printed a replacement in PLA with 60% infill for strength, which worked just as well as your repair did Vince - that is to say that it worked perfectly with one or two sheets of paper, but shredded the teeth when faced with anything thicker (so no credit cards or CDs with 3D printed gears)
So I printed a another replacement and that's still working fine as long as I only ever feed single sheets of paper into it (I'm sure it will fail eventually, but it's easy enough to print a new one I guess) so to answer your question as to whether 3D printing is a viable means of repairing this sort of product, the answer is a definite "yes", but only for the lightest duty home use, definitely not for a busy office.
That was absolutely heartbreaking when that gear failed, it looked so good I was as sure as you that it would last.
I was heading down to the gym to lose 10Lbs and get shredded but stopped to watch this video. Glad I did. InTeReStiNg and Vince is a real loveable cutup. I really ended up in pieces. I didn't have the power to resist. Thanks for the memories! Cheers p.s. With all due respect to the Co. that has to be a design problem to have collected that much Confetti insided the mechanism yes? Just saying. Good Fix BTW. (except for the last EXTREAM TEST) And Dremel™? How posh.
Great video, great attempted repair, still my favourite channel, from one Tech to another.
Great effort, I was certain you had it! Well, you did briefly :) You can still salvage it with some work; clean the gear, mold and cast a new proper one. More effort than it's worth perhaps. Are you certain the new shredders don't use the same gearing?
Win some, lose some. I love the try
just a thought vince, drive needles deep into the gear with heat cut the top to level it out, then use that thingamabob putty you use to encase it. then use the dremel to shape new teeth.
Like you said, can't win them all. Thanks for showing us that "rock hard" stuff, might not have worked in that case but it might do very well in stuff I thought was otherwise, not recoverable.
Hi Vince You can try to put new teeth to your gear with paperclip.You cut the paperclip and you put on the gear with solder iron.You only check the spaces beetwen them.I have fix a lot of them from vcrs in the past.you make a hole with a drill to the gear the same dimension with paperclip an then you put the tooth.I think you can made it!
Good efforts, I learnt something 👍
Somewhere there in England there is a retired machinist that would love to mill you a new cog/gear. As others have said - the nylon set is a safety mechanism but these consumer devices usually thermally protected as well so if it does get jammed up and won't stop the fuse link will blow or the fuse itself in the plug... 3D printers can print some pretty robust stuff these days - especially the ones pros use so that's an option too. I'd like to see a follow up here when you buy another one of these or find someone who can reproduce that part.
You brought back the horn! But a new one lol
Love your RUclips videos. .I same spend hours trying to fix something not worth fixing if works at the end I'm happy if it doesn't well with I tried
Gloves! Wear gloves when using a multitool like that. Or use a vice to hold the work item.
I was actually wondering if he is wearing safety glasses.
Nice work Vince. I am sure a 3D print from nylon would last forever.
Vinces matty crew has arrived 🏴☠️🦜
Ya had a bloody good go at fixing it, that's the main thing. I wonder if the addition of a 3D printer might change the game with things like this.
Vince time to buy a 3d printer to you channel. Great video
How this channel doesn’t have a million plus subscribers is beyond me. As always, a GREAT video. 👍👍
Only vince would attempt a repair On a item like this! 😂 I was so sure that gear would work your repair looked amazing! Nevertheless awesome job as usual vince regardless of the outcome
The first attempt was a beauty to the eye... you shouldn't had worked that you should just have had left that
Fantastic and interesting video as usual, love your videos. With regard to the fix, it’s a shame they make these things to break, if all the gears were metal it wouldn’t have broke in that way. Like you said though, it’s cheap and disposable which is a shame in today’s world. Anyway, it made for great viewing and your repair was excellent, a great effort.
After many years of use I finally jammed mine to the point I need to open it up to clear the blockage. This video seems the way to go. Interestingly I have never oiled the shredder and one of the "Do Not Do" symbols on my unit is do not oil? In this video the symbols are visible at the 40 second time point. I am assuming oiling would help my old unit. If I unjam the thing I'll give it the canola treatment.
Very well done sir, enjoy your videos and attempts to repair items. Think worth another attempt to reconfigure, mould, shape new teeth from some of the suggestions below eg liquid metal (jb weld or heavy gorilla weld), reform the teeth then coat all teeth with liquid metal for extra strength? that itself could/would make an interesting video. Keep up the good work Vince!
I just bought a rotary tool, trying to find reasons to use it everywhere now! I do think you would benifit from a small vice tho
Vice,
You can try to repair it with an epoxy stick that behaves like blue tack .
You cut a piece of the bar and knead it to a uniform color , score some grooves in the gear so that the epoxy has a good bite, and
apply like blue tack, put the gear in place mesh it with the other gear to form the teeth take the gear back of and let it harden use some sandpaper or a little file
to trim the sides of the gear where the epoxy has been squeezed out and done. (or trim the sides with a knife while it is still soft )
Just Google for "epoxy putty"
JBweld and Pattex are two of which I have worked and have good results even on plastics.
If your not done yet Vince try contacting HPC gears. They stock double gears and may have a direct replacement if you can give them some dimensions etc.
I really enjoyed this video.
I was rooting for ya Vince! Great effort!
You need to cast a section of the teeth then cut the affected section out in the same style as a keyway and insert the cut to size cast section . The beveled edge will lock in place and hold firm either direction choose a hard material like the bottle tops of milk bottle (hdpe) there are videos on melting it in the oven so with the right mold material you could actual cast straight into the mold. Hope I've made sense. Hope you give it a go and do a revist.
when the gear snapped I was like the time I thought I fixed the VCR player and it disconbobbulaits again half way through the film during class in highschool!
I told my teacher I could fix it and it worked the day before I brought it back!
It was back to how it was before I took it home to fix it!
Great as always! Maybe plastic padding could have worked? Or maybe it was the same kind of stuff you used.
Love all your videos 😊
What about making a mold of the gear and use resin maybe a fun experiment
Love your videos! Have you thought bout making an aluminum gear for it? Maybe casting it out of soda cans...
Vince, our human 3D printer 😉
Argh! Thought you had it. Shame they don’t make a replacement gear. Thanks for sharing.
You may try JounJip plastic welding kit with 80w iron on Amazon or eBay - suggestion - the box comes with screen and plastic strips and a wire brush hand brush
I love how vince just aggressivley presses the button like it was going to fix it like mate it won’t work
Get a broken 3D printer and fix it. Or we can all chip in and get you one :-) you can create fancy gears using it FYI . Love the channel vince hope you and your family are well.
nice try. I thought maybe only one sheet at the time is allowed bit according to the manual it is max 7. I once fixed something like this by taking a bigger part of the gear out, clued some plastic part in it, and shaping it as you did.
Try typing 'plastic gears' or 'metal gears' into Ebay and see what comes up. Cheap and plentiful. The same problem occurs with Video and Audio Cassette Decks and the like, Especially the old Philips gears that appear to be made of Cheddar Cheese!
Did you know there are places called repair cafes and there all over appently? Was driving through Epson and saw one there. it seems like once a month the doors open and you bring in broken stuff. When I looked online it seemed like bird tables, prams, lawnmowers etc.
This is the point where you find a machining or CNC channel to collab with on making a new gear for a £50 paper shredder. Alternatively RS, and presumably other places, do plastic gears, provided there's one with the correct dimensions and number of teeth, you could enlarge the centre hole and file out a tooth pattern to take the hub gear off the broken one, and epoxy the whole lot together, the tricky part would be keeping everything concentric.
Nice video, the 2 rollers need oiling once in a while and maybe if you had oiled them they had maybe spinned a bit easier and there for get less strain on the gears, just a thought 👍
Ah, that sweet, sweet music (the bugle, not the shredder).
:( Pity about that gear, though. If you're up for it, I'd love to see some for-science gear-repair experiments in a follow up video.
Also, now I can add "As seen on My Mate Vince" on my CV. Haha
You can't always win.. true.. but it made a very interesting video
That was fun :D greetings from Poland :)
You would need to clean and degrease the plastics first then use the dremel to scuff up the the plastic. that would give a better bond, Thanks for the mention 😊 still a great video 👍👍👍👍
Its interesting to watch any way
My hats off to your effory
You can add a little salt to the qbond and it will strengthen the qbond alot more :)
The nylon gear is there as a safe point of failure. Imagine dropping a fork in the shredder if it only had metal gears (shrapnel everywhere or motor catching fire over a box of shredded paper). It also is pliable so it is somewhat forgiving of overloading with paper. The repair was simply too brittle to be effective. A for effort though. It's a shame they don't sell spares for parts designed to fail.
Good point
Use Can Air
Brilliant Vince!
... hahaa I literally wrote this *right* before it stripped.
Really good try!
is that Dremel 8220 or new model I have one 8220 and dremel 4000 love it use it on everything, Iused to do wood crafts until covid 19 hit shut down most of my suppliers
Great video, thank you.
Hi bud a big well done thats another bit e waste saved
Great video mate👍
Is JB Weld available in the UK? They make a "steel putty" that starts off just like that Blu Tack, but once you let it set it's as hard as metal! I've fixed car parts with it lol
I have this exact shredder 😂
If it ever breaks I’m returning to this video
Or you could break yours to donate the gear to Vince 😂
Shredders,oil the blades to keep them moist.Paper burr dulls the blades and they get sticky.Years of cleaning them in the office 😊