Canon EOS R5 Mark II & R1 - First Look & Example Imagery
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Let us know what testing you want to see with the cameras below!
- Does it have dual (maybe triple) native iso settings
- dynamic range in comparison to R5c
- anamorphic support?
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Does it pre-record in 4k120?
Does it feature ABB and can the video picture profiles be customised in terms of color matrix, noise reduction and sharpening (can eliminate all in camera sharpening)?
Is it true the R5mk2 only line skips above 30p? I'm thinking the 4K will not look anywhere near as good as the R5C, or maybe even the OG R6!
I like that it looks more and more like a 5/1D with every iteration.
Fellas… I just have to say that yours is the fifth video I’ve watched about these cameras, but I’m only halfway through it and you’ve shared twice as much info already! Thank you for being so thorough and so detailed.
Finally! R5mk2 is already pre ordered! thanks for the insightful video!
Some of these more cinema-oriented features suggest that they will actually release an R5 C II in the near future... I really want to believe we'll get an R5 C with full-size HDMI, Clog 2, etc...😶🌫
And maybe 8k120fps with a cooling fan battery grip! If they bring back the c100 flippy screen ill be a canon user for years to come!
I dont see that as the case. Why even get an r5c when a stills does it all almost. This seems like a better marrying of the 2 worlds and much more convenient and faster to use. Sure it isnt cinema eos but it is 95% there
@@RayValdezPhotography The R5 C has the Cinema EOS operating system and of course the all-important cooling fan
I don't see this at all, the fact of that grip with a fan is exactly what the R5C was to the R5. Now you just have to buy that grip to make your R5 into a R5C.
@@RonKeiser they made a fan for the r5ii though. All they would be doing is making different camera just to have a OS few features when u can buy a c70, c400 and whatever is planned. R5c just seems like they were trying something to see what works best before making the r5ii
R5 Mark II looks super. Thanks for this preview!
The best preview yet! Thank you so much for this amazing job
You can get a lumix s5 ii for $1,700 and it doesn't overheat, has unlimited record times, shoots opengate, 6k and has shutter angle. Has a crop at 60p but there is no reason the R5 needs to be that expensive.
Of course you can. But there are a lot of people fully invested in Canon's ecosystem. Not all professionals with thousands invested in gear and familiar with systems and color want to just jump ship. Additionally, many pros make their money back on investment within a shoot.
That 60p crop is the problem.
AF is worse , crop in 4k60 . but yes , bought s5II with 50 1.8 for 1760$ and now can't justify such a high price for new cameras
It’s not just a spec sheet, it’s the color science and overall image. Canon’s is just better.
@@peterildefonsa not rly . if we compare with Sony - yes, but Lumix color science and "overall" image is almost the same as Canon . Anyway I prefer Fuji from both of them , lol )
12:57 thank you so much. I feel like that should be the opening clip is full-size HDMI yes indeed full-size HDMI and the show a bunch of people with standing ovations that Canon has finally made it lol I admit that moments before you addressed it, I paused this video and wrote a very long comment complaining that I’ve seen several videos on this and people just don’t seem to be mentioning the full size HDMI which made me think maybe they hadn’t done anything. Then I watched this part of the video. I immediately deleted my previous comment. Am I the only one who is celebrating this? You guys make it feel nonchalant as if Canon did something that’s a no biggie for Canon. This is really major. Anyway, back to the video thank you all for your fantastic work
NIce, thanks for the extra detail, you for sure covered bits that others didnt!
Guess we'll have to wait for the R5C mark ii
They aren’t making one
I'm glad they start to put clog 2 on there mirrorless camera!!!
Why
@@Piyush10129 more dynamic range
Because of different sensors on these cameras.
@@nigerian-nightmarehas nothing to do with the sensors
@@officialbrandoncoleman clog 2 is better than clog 3?
I hope the hot shoe is improved for those of us that sometimes use a flash on our R5 and have dealt with having to send it in after it became loose.
A lot of people are moaning about the specs of the R1 but really this is a niche product for the pro sports photographer. Canon will sell many millions more cameras with R5 m2 and for the hobbyist or pro portrait or wedding photographer, the R5 M2 is an awesome camera and the real flagship for Canon. Love it
Please do a R5 - R5c - R5ii comparison in Dynamic range, noise reduction and overheating issues (without the cooling grip). And I guess if you have time compare the autofocus system. Please Please Please and Thank You!
Canon used to be THE BEAST when it came to skin colours, but since they went mirrorless, their skin colour science is now among the worst. 0:51 , 1:05 , and so many more examples in this video.
This is where you should've seen the other footage of that break dancing segment. The room was very dark with only spotlight strobe like lighting. Canon wanted to show how these cameras could do video in such poor lighting. A lot of the other channels produced beautiful video. I dont know what happened here.
Both of these cameras look mighty impressive!! Huge props to Canon for allowing 8K60 in the R5ii using internal batteries, and also getting decent battery life out of them. That was probably the main reason I sold my R5c. They are a bit on the pricier side though... would love to see a comparison between the R5ii and the Nikon Z8 as it feels like both of those cameras cover the same market.
Somebody said it doesn't do 8K-60.
@@MrWiseinheart It's literally in the spec sheet. Whoever you got your info from is wrong.
@@DynamicPhil84 Must of been, because they were complaining about it not being able to do that.
I knew the r3 was a rebranded r1. They have so much in common
Too much, really.
Glad I went withe the R3 instead of waiting for this R1. Love my R3, I'd love to add a R5mk2 as my Bcam.
R3 is far more affordable right now as well. Its price tag is $4,500.00 usd which is $1,800 usd cheaper than the R1
Fantastic first look, would love to know if the R5mk2 when recording video - lets you zoom/punch in to check focus in your full review + a Dynamic Range/Lowlight comparison to R5mk1 would be fantastic re: CLOG2 etc :)
I hope the r5cii switches to using bpa style batteries
When you guys going to do a full review of the R5II?
Meh, I'm a dedicated canon shooter for photo and video and honestly I'm kinda unimpressed. They just dont innovate like sony does with certain wow factor features. I did like the c400 as a great step but these are very ehhh. depending on how good the AF is. Was really hoping for more especially since so many people got an r5c and now this has clog 2 like what the hell. and a new battery......great now I have to sell all the ones that I got for the other models.
I would much prefer a pixel shift option as opposed to an AI upscaled image in camera. It is a great camera and I supposed it's in there for a reason for some people. If I were to use an upscaled image, I would do it in the post processing phase.
You say Oversampled 4K is limited to 60p in your dialog, but the chart shows the oversampled 4K only goes to 30p. Even the R5c supports 4K/60p oversampled. Is the 4K/60p really still subsampled in this 2024 camera?
Yes! This is Canon huge mistake
Interesting to see the R5II priced the same now to the R5C when released 🙃 Also interesting to see what Canon does next for their Cinema OS auto focus upgrades with further advancements in their stills line. Unless Canon thinks video users only manually focus 😅 hopefully not
Would be interesting to see a poll of how many actual pro's vs enthusiasts watch these type of gear videos.
I don't understand why Canon keeps on making huge cameras and lenses, I had the original R5c and C70, but ended up selling them because of the bulk when compared to Sony. These upgrades are interesting but nothing spectacular that would make me want to go back to Canon.
Same here. Had an r5 originally, switched over to R5C because of overheating and ibis wobble. (Real estate videographer so im always shooting wide). It's sad to see they've fixed almost none of those major problems. (Really..... a battery grip with a fan??). And the wobble at 35mm or wider still hasn't been fixed. Just sold all of my canon gear last week and am switching to Sony. Sad to say because ive invested almost 8k in canon gear. But it had to be done. They just had to fix 2 issues.
One reason I guess is to accommodate big hands/fingers? But I also really don't understand why. I just bought a Sony 300mm and it's super light.
The bulk/weight is so underrated but this is also one big reason for me not to go to Canon/Nikon.
The wide angle ibis wobble is specifically marketed as beeing almost eliminated with the R5II though. and the ibis is much better due to a bigger sensor movement. seems to even be on par or better with panasonic from the first small tests i have seen, quite astonishing.
@@Digi20 That's really good to hear. I wonder how it would compare with A7RV IBIS (I would guess, Canon would win with the latest technology).
I used to have R5I and I found it difficult to edit video files; probably not a big deal now, especially with faster MacBooks.
Sony has really done a good job at diversifying their product lines at different price points, so that every user can find a camera that better fits their budget and needs. Canon, on the other hand, makes better high-end hybrid bodies and lenses that won't trouble weight- and price-insensitive users.
Unfortuantely MII version doesn't feature IBIS High Resolution mode, so it is very limited as it doesn't use the multi-exposure IBIS function of the camera any more. Also, the former batter grip isn''t compatible with this camera (same size tough).
If only r52 had the same video photo switch on rec button woulda been perfect
It will be interesting to see whether Canon really does release an R6 MK III this year, and if it will have any of these features such as registering a face for person priority
With the cooling grip, your fingers will cover the intake grill in portrait mode, I suspect that’s the reason for omitting the controls.
Another extensive and thorough review. Thank you. It could be me but where the clips generally a bit over exposed or at least exposed to the right. In terms of showing 16stops of dr outdoor locations feel most informative but even so the indoor lighting seemed hot in the image imo so perhaps this is all something that the raw clips can deal with. Just seems like the upper part of the curve could come down. Thx as always. Much appreciated.
I find 24MP for a flagship worthy of the name R1 disappointing. With Sony you can easily get 60MP, with Fuji 100MP for only slightly different price range. Sure, not everybody needs the highest number of pixels - but i thought that's what the r3 line was for.
It is a sport camera. Fuji have a fps of 5,3. R1 have 40. Its not the same at al. Also the sony camer that have 60 mp is not a sports camera.
@@andreasfan9568 yet Sony released a 50mp 30fps sports camera in 2021, then they dropped the A9iii this year. The R1 seems very, very tame in comparison, especially after such a long wait. It has some cool features but I was really expecting Canon to offer more for their flagship stills camera.
@@andreasfan9568 Wrong! R3 is the sports the camera. R1 is the flagship camera. If you're saying R1 is a sports camera, then its literally an R3 mark ii. A1 is the flagship camera. A9-iii is the sports camera. See the difference?
Thanks CVP for the quick info. One thing you did not mention is the built-in GPS, does R52 has built-in GPS?
No, it doesn't.
Does the R5 M2 have dual recording options to both memory cards simultaneously?
IBIS wobble with extreme wide angles would be a good test cause the other canons were awful in video. And also if the 8k raw is 12-bit or 14-but which the Canon Canada website claims.
Thank you @cvp for another great review, please can you use the new battery in the canon EOS R5c and be able to record 8k60 LT raw internally ? Since it’s a much more powerful battery . Thank you
I ordered an R5 mkii because I want more DR over my R5C and Animal-AF in the video mode, but I like 8K-RAW 60fps. If what you showed is true that it can overheat after 18Min and with the ventilator grip after 21Min, then I think I'll stop my order. Then I'll hope for an R5C MKII, maybe next year, what will probably have an internal ND.
I don't think a R5c II will ever materialize.
informative review thanks CVP
So we should be able use the new LPE6P batteries in the R5C to bypass the original power limitations in 8K60?
Interesting theory! I sure hope so but I’m bet canon will find a way to block that from happening so more people will buy the R5ii.
idk, it's hard to think about any camera other than the A9iii with the Ad that Sony made existing.
Why does it feel like canon is now playing catchup with the z8/z9?
Nikon never catch up in AF performance 😂
@@zegzbrutal They definitely have. Have u used the new cameras?
@@GhostsGraphics yes. Z9 was close to R3 but R1 R5ii a9iii pulled the gap again.
I'm not saying is Z8 Z9 bad enough to be unusable, but Nikon's catch up isn't desperately needed in the high end. It's the mid-entry level that needs a overhaul.
genuine question, why would a video shooter choose a to buy an R5 II with Grip over a well priced R5C? (just for clog2?) Personally I'm done with R5's when i eventually move on from my R5C, the memories of overheating issues with the original R5 back in 2020 still make my eyes roll. I wanted the R1 with Cinema OS so i could move on from the R3 and R5C which both have strengths and weaknesses for video. Final thought, I have my set of Mercury's but canon has no camera with 1.5x in camera for me to have a super small Anamorphic set up. For the next video please throw some anamorphics on these new canon cameras and call them out, please :) Also what does anamorphic look like on the R1 with IBIS on? love your work as always! thanks for these vids :)
Looks great, but so has just about every camera of the last 5 years. I don’t think I’m going to buy another camera until they figure out how to get an electronic vND into a small body. Seems possible if global shutter sensors become more widespread. Then there’s the issue of instantaneous readout vs maximum dynamic range, but hopefully that will be solved by then
there's maybe a R1 X series coming up😅
Can you confirm the actual bit depth of the R5II? There's a lot of conflicting press releases from different global branches saying it actually offers 14bit RAW? 🤨 Their detailed specs only mention 4:2:2 chroma subsampling at either 8 or 10bit, shouldn't canon RAW be 4:4:4 12bit?
It looks like a fantastic camera! How does its dynamic range compare to the R5C and C400? Does it offer 16 stops like the C400? I'm considering getting one, but I've never been impressed by the dynamic range of Canon's mirrorless cameras. Additionally, I've never understood how so many camera brands advertise their dynamic range when it often falls short of the actual usable dynamic range. Only Blackmagic and Arri come close to delivering what they claim.
Great work guys as per, I think I would like to see a RAW comparison, between all modes and flavours, does clog 2 give much more DR do they dual record /relay record, in modes that the lowest card slot allows for? I also think maybe testing with LPE6Ns would be good as people will have a lot of then and probably wonder what it is like. Cant really think of owt else.
I’d pay for some of these features if I could get a firmware update!! Let’s do these cameras like Tesla’s and I’m in!!
I wonder if the new batteries will work with the R5C and add longer run time 🤔.
Still overheats without the cooling grip? or does it have the option to turn it from standard to high without the cooling grip?
In the video you say that oversampling on the R5 Mark II is limited to 60p in 4k. But the graphic on screen when you say this appears to show that oversampling is limited to 29.97 in 4k. Can you clarify this? Maybe I’m misunderstanding what I’m hearing or seeing but if you can clarify the oversampling parameters of the R5 Mark II that would be helpful. Thanks, great video as per usual.
What I understood it oversamples for regular video 4K60p but not for 4K60p raw.
16:02 which camera/lens was this shot on? Color and tones remind me very much of my old 5D III (in the best possible way)
It has all these excellent features, but does it have one of the most simple features that has been found on even cheap cameras from other brands for over a decade? That is, can you keep the horizon level on during recording video? It may seem silly, but this one feature will decide whether I purchase one or not. I know it has some self-leveling IBIS thing, but that isn't what I'm asking. I just want to be able to make the camera level myself, because I can see the level on the screen. Any clue if it can do that?
Needs anti-theft tech
Is R5 mark ii actual dynamic range is 16 stops plus ?
I don't think so. It's too early too tell but I'm not that impressed by the image quality so far as a C70 owner
@@irfanhaider2937 no, especially with a stacked sensor
@@Yupthereitism do you lose DR with a stacked sensor?
@@photophilsteingard8374 yes
Not a chance. The DGO sensor in the C300 III and C70 is also claimed to be 16+ stops. It technically DOES have that much "dynamic range", but the usable amount is closer to 14 stops.
Using the R3 as a benchmark for a stacked sensor (I would be surprised if the R1 or R5 II are noticeable improvements in video DR) they are likely to have between 12 and 13 stops of usable dynamic range.
Why would Canon not include waveforms in the R1? Is this due to it being a pre production model? What a ridiculous omission!
BH is showing the internal Raw of the R5II being 14bit?
That’s for photos
@@cinnabun1046 It's not it's listed under the "Video Capture - Internal Recording Modes"
@@BrandonTalbot I’m fairly certain that’s a mistake on B&H’s part. The marketing material was showcasing 12 bit raw in video.
@@Kiywii I figured as much.
@@BrandonTalbot yea, I saw that too and was very excited haha
Is there a 4K60 High Quality option on the R5 Mark II? If not that means it’ll be line skipping right? If so that would make me very sad.
Current R5 4K120 has ALL-I only. The file size is huge. Does R5 II has lower bit rate compression such as IPB?
Would it be safe to say that this camera would likely be added to Netflix's approved cameras for cinema recording?
Misleading title!!! You called it a "first look" yet you gave such informative review which I can find nowhere else.😂 Another evidence that I can always count on CVP in terms of video camera reviews.
Can you use the new lpe6p batteries on old cameras like r5mark I?
Where is the GH7 review guys?
Will the R5C be able to fully work with those new batteries without external power? 🤔
What do you think of the R5MkII video quality. As good as BMCC6K, better or worse?
Can you record 8k 540 mb/s to both card slots?
That's the main feature that I'm after.
What about 4k RAW Light?
Will Canon release shutter angle with the R5 Mark 2
Hey! I’m curious to know if the fan battery grip will be compatible with the R5 mark 1?
R5ii can use usb-c rec direct to external ssd?
I think the file sizes got smaller for equal/ better quality?.. Can someone who knows better than me confirm?
If I want the best quality 4k 25p available:
R5 mk i: H.265 Clog On 4K (29.97p/25.00p/24.00p/23.98p) ALL-I: Approx. 470 Mbps
R5 mk ii: MP4 4K DCI/UHD Fine / Normal (Oversampled from 8K / Not oversampled): XF-HEVC S YCC422 10bit Standard LGOP
29.97p/25.00p/24.00p/23.98p: Approx. 135 Mbps
Is this a proper comparison? The other R5 mk ii numbers for the similar spec:
4K SRAW Light (25.00p/24.00p/23.98p): Approx. 350 Mbps
4K SRAW Standard (25.00p/24.00p/23.98p): Approx. 780 Mbps
MP4 4K DCI/UHD Normal (Not oversampled): XF-HEVC S YCC422 10bit Standard LGOP 59.94p/50.00p: Approx. 225 Mbps (I can't find a 25.00p option here)
Does either camera have the DGO architecture for video? I heard 16+ stops for the video.
best review so far ! But cameras are pricey .
Now Canon, please transfer the R5 sensor to R6 Mark III and I am set for life.
so is 4k60 oversample? The chart said no but the talking said 60p has oversample
Does the camera oversample 4K up to 60fps or 30fps?
What's the deal with all the Canon Raw video codecs? Raw vs Raw Light vs SRaw vs SRaw Light vs Cinema Raw Light? Isn't Cinema Raw light supposed to be the highest quality?
Does anybody know already if an external power bank will delyver enough power for 8K-RAW 60fps like in the R5C, and if this will work for the R5MKII and the R1? Also, will this kind of powering will work together with the ventilated BG? Also does anyone knows if in the R5MKII the 8K-RAW 60fps will work with a BG what will only have one new and one older batterie or if every inserted battery must be a new one for this mode? Thanks
Tired, no revolution... but can't wait for the Canon R5 Mark III in 2028 !
Is the animal eye af on the R5 II working in video mode as well?
Is it available hq mode on 4k 60fps???
seriously, how do you store those huge files? unless I want to buy a NAS for every project, they seem unusable
Can anyone let me know if the new r5ii fits the old r5/r6 cages please?
Does the R5ii have anamorphic desqeeze?
No, it doesn't.
What are the internal recording options when recording external raw ?
Can't wait to maxout my credit card again
Another person at that event asked a Canon rep if the 4K60 is downsampled and the answer was no. Your video at 4:30 claims the opposite. Do you have a way to confirm that fact?
Looks like it can record 4k "fine" in 60p, which is the downsampled mode
@@Wolfedtw Everyone else is saying there is no 4K60 fine mode. Where are you seeing this (besides this video)?
The video claims fine mode in 4K 60p 422, but no fine mode in 4K 60p RAW
@@esplak I’ve now seen someone navigating the menus and when they tried to use 4K fine in 60p the camera says “these settings cannot be combined”
Does anyone know what allows the R5 II to have CLog2. Is it a change the the sensor or is something software related?
Everything is changed
does either one have shutter angle?
This might fuel the already long said rumours of a successor to Sony's Alpha 1...and can't help but think Canon just reused their pro body DSLR design on these cameras. It looks...proportionally weird. Canon has a longer way ahead of themselves over what the competition had been able to put up!
Its a R3 Mk II, not R1
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Is it true the R5mk2 only line skips above 30p?
Yes
@my7favorite7videos in RAW yes.
In 422 no.
That what the video claims
This hurts to look at 7:28
Underwhelming considering it’s been 5 years since the r5
4 years
but still no C log 2 for R5C -_-
It will never get CLOG 2, it uses the R5's sensor which is only about 11 stops of DR, CLOG2 needs at least 14 stops or you will unrecoverably lose parts of the DR that you cannot recover in post, this is why the R7 and R6 also do not have CLOG2.
@VUMEDIAGroup yeah but when you shoot RAW and set in post C Log 2 it shows 16 stop, yeah they are super noisy but they are there
@@pepsiq210200 You can't get more DR in post than the sensor supports. The sensor is limited to around 11 stops, conforming footage to 16 stops with 4 of them unusable is still only 11 stops. I am hoping the R5II actually has the claimed 16 stops....more than likely it is 15 but still way better than 11...the fact Canon finally added CLOG2 means they must be telling the truth at least somewhat.
Canon is a joke
what a disappointment for canon. I understand that resolution isn't everything, 24.2 megapixels for the R1 just doesn't cut it when there are other options. Likewise, a r5 mark ii that doesn't hit the ball out of the park in terms of resolution or bit depth doesn't really move the needle for me
Is it Netflix Approved or not
no one cares
Only cameras that have a time code input can qualify.
😂😂 why? Did Netflix contact you to make a movie with a Canon camera?
@@JeanSebastienLEGER - Netflix certified is nice when selling your video services, ESPECIALLY when you show up with a mirrorless camera. Also, there is peace of mind that when you decided to invest in a camera, sky is the limit when thinking about future production possibilities.
@@daniellove162 I still don't understand why it's nice...So you show up to your client saying "don't worry it looks like a photography camera but actually it's a Netflix certified camera!" ?? 😅 😆And if Netflix produce your film or serie or documentary, do you really think you'll use a mirrorless camera?...🤨 And do you know that you can make a movie even with your smartphone and still have the chance to sell it on Netflix? You can use any cameras, it doesn't matter at all! Netflix certified is only when Netflix PRODUCE your project...(But if it's the case, you'll get the budget to rent whatever camera you want anyway...)
I always find it funny when people ask this question...And, If you are worry about your client perception, just get a real cinema camera...