These New PolarPro Filter Kits Are Fantastic! (Basecamp & Summit Review)
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- Опубликовано: 11 ноя 2019
- Unboxing and setup guide for PolarPro's new Basecamp matte box and Summit landscape filter kits. Featuring some image quality tests & ND accuracy checks.
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So, it looks like they have fixed ND filters ready to go already.🤓🙌 Here’s a link: bit.ly/36Xoh1f
You can get from 1 to 8 stops of fixed ND. Nice! Now we just need those circular diffusers!
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These looks stunning!! I'm sure the glass quality is well above my Cokin system. Great film.
This looks pretty great! Agreed, now I just need to see if they can come up with both some Black Pro Mist and Glimmer Glass defusion and a way we can run it with ND honestly...
No filter: imgur.com/D7qbRc6
Polar Pro filter: imgur.com/s3gnYzg
SLR Magic filter: imgur.com/nqbqBfb
Was really unimpressed with the PolarPro Peter McKinnon VNDs. They had an uneven colour cast across the frame, with the right side of the frame skewing heavy towards cyan. You can't just do a custom white balance to corect, as it only affects half the frame and you'd then throw out the other side of the image.
How did Polar Pro manage to take something I hate using and make it more than tolerable? I swear they have a ninja note taker at everyone's projects and it reports to some robot at HQ.
Sponsored and legit vid. Undone right. Thanks Gerald.
Hi, Gerald. Do you have any experience with the Aputure DEC Vari-ND or the DEC LensRegain? I'd LOVE to hear your opinion on them.
If you're unfamiliar:
Aputure DEC Vari-ND is an EF to MFT adapter (not boosted) + wireless follow focus + 9 stop variable ND,
Aputure DEC LensRegain is an EF to MFT speedbooster + wireless follow focus.
Gerald as a filmmaker with aspergers and a touch of OCD, the thoroughness of your videos is the most satisfying thing. Really preciate' ya! MKBHD became the top and most trusted tech channel on YT, and I think you will become the top filmmaker gear review channel in no time. The most trusted, comprehensive, nothing left to be desired, the kind of reviews that make you go "i dont need to listen to anyone else". I am always astonished at the amount of work and care you put in to things!
That's very kind of you, Shane! Thanks so much.
You are good damn right! :) Every time I need to buy some new piece of film making kit (ND, tripod, lens, lights...) I go to Geralds channel and buy what he tells me to buy. And I was never been disappointed. I am very indecisive and he is bringing me peace of mind that I just made a good choice :) Except for Gerald and Marques, I need somebody for sports gear and maybe live choices and I will be happy :D
Your sponsorship breakdown was great, and I'm so happy for your channel's continued growth.
Great explanation of sponsorship at the beginning. I’m glad info on why multiple videos from multiple creators go up at the same time, is becoming more common knowledge. Fantastic walk through Gerald.
Appreciate it, Levi. Thanks, man! 🤓🙏
I agree the packaging is on another level. The bags and everything look top notch. Thanks
Super happy I found this review of something I thought I wasn't going to buy for a while. Now top of my list. Awesome reviews my man!
I always love how thorough you are with everything.
I was looking for EXACTLY this comparison, and actually just came from your review and comparison of the variable ND filters..... I think..... I think I love you. Always great videos, thanks for your hard work, definitely helped me to make a decision.
I love the last ”overcranking shutter" part :-)
You literally read my mind. Thank you for doing this one.
Stellar review !!!... Honest and no bullshit...awesome...keep smashing it mate !!!
Thanks for sharing! I ordered one using your link. This matte box solution fixes everything I hate about my current one!
You are like the dude back in the 90s working in a camera store and called Gerald the end-boss nerd that mostly knows everything about camera and stuff. Never subscribed to anyone but you are the first trustworthy person in that area. Keep going.
I caught other reviews of the same product, but you really covered this system better.
I am looking at matte boxes and I found this video helpful, thanks 😊👍
My guy, you are the most upfront, transparent guy talking camera gear on RUclips; not a knock against anyone else, but you're the only person I've seen talk about how they actually make money from product videos in relation to their testing. There's nothing I respect more than using your integrity to guide your wallet and not vice versa. I trust your opinion more than anyone else's, and you're my go to source of "nerd calibre" info for finding the proper information on purchases. I buy my gear based first on specs, followed then physical layout, and you offer completely unbiased, science based arguments of why certain formats, sensor sizes and methods of capture are more appropriate in different situations. It's actually provided me with a competitive edge when it comes to overhead and pricing in my market. BlackMagic, SmallRig, Panasonic and Sigma owe you some commission from me.
So, from a fella working out in Western Canada, thanks a ton, sincerely. I'll be buying hella merch when I'm in the money. You're doing God's work, or at least Ansel Adams'.
Thanks so much, Joel! This comment really made my day. 🤓🙏🙌💜
Very thorough! Great review and unboxing.
Great review, full of facts and what a system! ripper!
Great review, learned a lot (as always). Love the channel.
love the honesty
For those who are interested: I just received my Mattebox and I can confirm that you can screw the Mattebox mount onto the Tiffen Black Promist Filter provided you got the 77mm or 82mm edition. This seems to be a decent workaround until Polar Pro releases their own Diffusion Filters.
Thank you for the video. I like fixed ND filters and until I saw your comment below, I was going to hold off. Now I have something to really think about. I like my Lee system, but this is something I am considering for landscapes. I am just pricing it out in my head and thinking long term is it worth purchasing it. If only I was able to use my current filters in this system then the decision would be easier. If I choose to go with it, I may have to run it by my budget director,....I mean my wife. Thanks again. Another quality video which I felt was informative and as usual, I enjoyed it.
I just got the Summit in the mail and will give it a try shortly. Upon initial inspection, the build quality seems spot on and I like being able to apply CP with other filters easily. My only complaint is, LOL, the carry case. I wish it had a tad more room to store everything Summit related in one place and a way to attach it to a camera bag.
Thanks Gerald, amazing review!
Like that intro transparency, very well done 👍🏻
5:51 Next intro: "I'm Gerald Undone and I like....good boxes....."
You had me at closed system. Nothing I love better than a closed system. I am supper happy that you’re not paying more to get a closed system. There is that 👍
I was in the market for a filter system for GNDs and NDs. I tried Cokin and was unimpressed. I was pretty much sold on trying Lee. Then Polar Pro released the Summit System. Their timing was perfect. I was already a huge fan of Polar Pro's variable GNDs, especially for video. Their VNDs are super. 2-5 stop and 6-9 stop. No color shifts or cross-polarization. I was also impressed with their Quartzline CP filter. Again, no color shift. I decided to try the Summit System. I've now bought the complete system. I see some grouching about price. You really do in this case get what you pay for. No color shifts. They work with wide angles down to 16mm. They're made out of quartz glass instead of resin. That was critical for me. I wanted the highest quality glass in front of my lenses. Everything is well-designed. The Summit CP filter sits inside the frame. Everything is tightly sealed to avoid light leaks. I could not be happier with my decision to try the Summit System from Polar Pro.
The proprietary system killed it for me. 4x4 or even 4x5.6 would have had me thinking
These are sick!
You earned my sub earlier and now the bell! I understand making it on youtube is hard and accepting sponsorships is a good way to get started! You do it so honestly with disclaimers that it doesn't bother me at all!
As a stills and motion shooter, I'm really torn between the two different systems. Your thorough video has helped a lot. I'm still having a really hard time deciding, but I know much more than I did 20 minutes ago, thanks!
Loved it! thank you..
Solid info as usual and thanks for being so transparent about reviews.
Is there any chance that you remember which video of yours was the one where you went into detail about the double qr’s? I am thinking about piecing together my first rail system and I’m really interested to hearing more.
Subbed purely because of your ethics!
You could probably say this as an intro " I am light and I am going to devour your sensor" great video as always!!
polar pro has the BEST packaging of any product ive ever opened.. that includes Apple products.. loved my PMVND box its on display on my shelf its so good.
Samsung and one plus has the one of the best packaging when it comes to phone, their charging cables are even packed really well.
This system look great as an option for my bmpcc4k
Cool stuff
I want that basecamp one so bad!!
this looks good.
great review
I like their stuff I bought one before I watched this. Since I don't have any matte box system currently and I have been contemplating one the closed ecosystem does not really bug me. I do hope they have some some pro-mist or some other style filters too though.
How hard would it be to use a 1/4 black pro mist filter in conjunction or substitution with the polarizer?
Darn it Gerald, I just bought the dp500 last month and I love it apart from the front leaves little room for adjustment as I like to double up on quick release plates also so some of my lenses don't sit centre 🙄
Gerald, first off thank you so much for all your super informative videos. In my opinion they are some of the best on youtube. As a total newbie to the idea of a matte box for my video setup I'm noticing that this one has no side flags. It that a problem or limitation in your opinion? Also do you think the "closed system" of Pro Polar only filters of this product is limiting in any way? Most of the other matte boxes can use third party filter inserts. And finally, what about the "swing away" feature on the rail mount that most other systems use to allow for quick lens changes? I guess it's a trade off of lens support vs. swing away convenience? Thank you for your time and for sharing all your knowledge.
Looks dope. Very similar to Bright Tangerine in some ways. Too bad it cant take a standard 4x5.65 filter. But I like what they are doing.
Interesting product and nice review Gerald!
I would prefer having the regular VND and fixed ND in front of it. That polarized filter seams awkward...
Thanks mate
great review. would of liked to seen some landscape pics with some remarks on pic quality using the filters thow.
One of your better ones.
I just checked this kit out and they included everything in the video in the kit for the sale price.
What would be the best way to use a black pro mist filter with this setup? Thanks bro love your channel !
D D GUND.... gots him some nice boxes! YES! I MADE IT BOYS! after a year of suggestions I made the intro. Haha appreciate the helpful infos, very comprehensive and in depth break down. I think everyone needs their products Undone! Yay k bye
Intro:.....hows about a good old fashion What IS HAPPENING *two finger salute*
Outro:... Well then your dead to me!
Haha. My pleasure, Walt! Keep suggesting them. 🤓🙏
Can the base kit be used with the canon laowa 12 mm , with the glass that protrudes forward? And also are there any IRNd filters available?
Hey Gerald, great video as usual, great product but I still think mattebox products have a way to go to be more portable and travel friendly.
If you have time you should look at the Kipon EF to E-Mount adapter with the drop in filters, it's a bit niche but you should check it out.
Well, this hit just in time for me, thanks @geraldundone , also I have to get one of those undone hoodies!
You know, I was just thinking that I need more little pouches...said no photographer ever. ;)
Out in the landscape photo field would you miss having Medium Grads seeing how the Summit series only has soft ND4/ND8? Or combining the two softs with the fixed NDs generally solves that equation?
It's worth getting some quality filters and it's a good investment for return, at least that's what I tell myself 😂 excellent look at the lens Gerald!
Do you have any idea if i can attach the Box to my Lens if there is a ProMist filter attached? Since i already own a set of those it would be sweet to continue using those.
Nice review, man! Question, how do you know what stop you're on if there are no markings?
Great video! Ive got a Sony FS5ii. So, is this still a matte box worth considering since I have a variable ND built into my camera and what I really need is something to block light? What might be the benefit of going for the full kit? Appreciate your thoughts on that Gerald. Also, nice save when that camera slid.
idk what it is but i realy like him
Thank you for your video. How does Basecamp kit compare to NiSi or H&Y? With all the pieces to be connected, is there any light leaks? Can a grad be inserted on the Basecamp? Which of the two do you recommend?
Best review I’ve seen! Im wondering if the CP still acts as a polarizer with the VND? Could you theoretically rotate the whole matte box if needed? Also, do you have any thoughts on how well it cuts IR vs needing an extra IR cut screw filter
did you figure out if the polariser works as a normal polariser too when used with the vnd?
I would like to love it. But no 4x4 or 4x5.65 support makes a Mattebox sensles for me using diffusion filter for creating a look.
Will this matte box work on your lens if you have a diffusion filter screwed on to the front of it? Not having 2 trays is the only downside I'm seeing witth this system. Thanks.
You should compare it to the Arri & bright tangerine line. If one wants to start small but then grow to much bigger shoots it’s almost worth it to get the proper stuff from the start. Finally starting to get my head around what would make for a good matte box and moving away from VND’s. These are probably good for certain people but it’s good to know why and be informed all the way up to the pro stuff like with the FX3, FX6, FX9 series of reviews you did which I liked. Love
Hi amazing video, I was wondering what mink tripod legs and head are you using here? Looks a lot like sachtler but is not
Thank you
Love this review! Can you please share the tripod head and legs in this video? Looking to have the same desk tripod setup :)
Well that was a great review.
Can you put a filter before the 82mm mount for the matte box? Say put a pro mist filter on the lens, then the 82mm matte box mount and have the variable nd in the matte box?
I am a huge fan of your channel and have always seen you as a pragmatist who values the democratisation of good design and affordability. Its surprising that you endorse a brand that seems so overtly aspirational (the packaging alone) and hardly a snip. The principle of proprietary design seems to embody everything that good design isn't. Likewise any brand that feels the need for "signature" versions of plainly functional pieces has to be a concern. Most matte boxes seem ridiculously expensive, and this really seems no exception given its proprietary bent, though I appreciate your take on that. Swing away design as an innovation at least allows quick lens change and it would be great to see similar. Principally universality and standardisation allows costs to come down and if we all want better egalitarian design, then designs/brands like this, though addressing some practical concerns, seem instinctively a step in the wrong direction. Regardless your time, consideration and valued judgment is always sincerely appreciated.
can you try it on a Gimbal? :) - also your review or the VND filters is what got me to get the Peter Mckinnon polar pro VND. i absolutely love it.
Gerald, on your rig in this video, what is that boxy-looking thing mounted on the rods, rear of the camera?
Thanks for yet another irresistibly well-done video!
Nice vids thanks. Where do you put the Haida M10 system comparing price and performances with the polar Pro Summit ?
Nice review! If I shoot both photos AND videos, which system would you recommend, if you can only pick one (either the Summit or the Basecamp) because of budget concerns? They are targeting the Summit at photographers and the Basecamp at videographers... I’m using the Fuji XT2 system btw...
Gerald: I wanted to know, if I rotate the whole matte box from the clamp, with the VND+CPL inside, would that work also as a stand-alone CPL? Like, say, the SLR Magic/ Simmod Variable NDs that also work as CPLs when you rotate them from the base?
Hi Gerald, hope you had time to read this. I'm curious: Which one is that tripod you use in this set up? Thanks for making such great vids!
what a product
Gerald, I wanna know the beahaivor of the reflactions and glares when using the polarized filter to change the exposure... is the polarization of the shot affected when you rotate the pl filter? Or does it only influence in the exposure affectiing the overall density?
Question, can I use the Basecamp matte box also for stills photography?
Really hope they come out with filters equal in quality to the black pro mist! Would be a shame otherwise as I use the pro mist a bunch
Lol how many cameras did you have setup for this? Awesome review. Decided to buy it within the 7 day launch to get the discount. Super pumped for it to arrive. Been thinking about Matte Boxes for a long time and this looks like the first one that makes sense. Was nice meeting you at Pro Fusion too! Keep on crushing it
This system costs more than my G85 lol, but looks like it is worth every penny. Excellent review.
time fly listening to this man, I thought this was a 10 minute video
very cool
Hi Gerald, Great review.... The mate box system have a lot of control premising circular CPL +ND , but I just wondered if there is an interest to have a second Polarpro PeterMcKInnon VND Mist, without mate box.. I read that the mist edition reduce a little bit the wrinkle for skin... for people filming fashion or beauty you think it's an interesting approach or only keep the VND with mate box... All the best
Thanks for the great review, will get one pretty likely soon. Do you have any idea if i can attach the Box to my Lens if there is a ProMist filter attached? Since i already own a set of those it would be sweet to continue using those.
So if i get the circular vnd peter mc version, can i attach that to this matte box? No?
Could this filter system work on lenses that don't have a front filter thread, specifically the Sony 12-24 f4?
How do you know if you are pushing past the 2-5 variable nd as the adjustment wheel just spins round?
Awesome video! Can you tell me what head and table top tripod you are using in this video?
useful review! Extremely well designed system, just a bit dissapointed propietary system to hold square filters. I would like to know if possible your table tripod it seems sturdy and reliable! trying to get one.
9:30 doesn't the color shift comes form the direction of the CPL as installed? Like if you would have changed its direction there is less or no color shift.
Hi Gerald, Thank you for the great explanation. I have two questions I shoot most of videos on Sony A7III and sony lens for auto focus. If I use polarpro kit which is CPL & variable ND filter that will be two glasses in front of my lens will that effect the auto focus of sony lenses? Can i use only polarpro matte box and CIRCULAR variable ND filtter will that work instead of CPL&ND filter ?
Just received my Basecamp Kit and the Polariser was broken - just fell straight out of it's metal ring. It was almost as though it wasn't glued in at all. Hope it's just an anomaly in their early production run. Have reach out to them and am hoping they replace it. Otherwise seems like a great product though. Thanks for the review.
Hey Gerald,
I'm curious about something! I love the look of this and want to buy just the Mattebox as I already have the variable ND from PolarPro, do the 'clamp rings' that would usually be for cinema cameras clamp down hard enough to hold it in place on a 77mm diameter lens?
I only ask as I shoot on 16mm film so have to be really precise with my exposure and can't guess with the standard VND this kit uses, but the PolarProXPeter VND is perfect for this!
Thank you again and much love!
What is the lens diameter for this matt box without an adapter? Can it be attached to a 114mm lens?
In the actual kit there is a 77mm and a 82mm "Thread Plate" included, my biggest lens uses 72mm so i could convert all my lenses to either size. Is there a reason to choose one over the other? Of should i just go to the 77mm because the step up rings are smaller/hopefully lighter/better to store, or do i miss out on something if i not go to the biggeer size of 82mm? Thank you very much btw for your indepth videos!
Recommended by Gerald: ooooo this could be worth getting.
Proprietary mount: oookay maybe not.
Looks like a great tool, really high quality, but the closed system nature of it is pretty off-putting for the mean time... I'd want to see several generations of this to be reassured that they weren't going to come out with a slightly different mount each time. Definitely will be keeping an eye out for if they introduce a compatibility add-on.
Yeah the closed system is a real downside.
I was thinking about that, but since they currently offer a complete range of VND and ND as well as supports and cover every front filter size, they almost don't really need to add anything to the system. Other than that diffusion filter! But once they add that, it might be a closed system, but it's a complete one. So I don't think we're really missing out. Just my two cents.
What if you put a mattebox on a minorly scuffed up GVM RGB-150s?
Also I found out that since the light itself takes power through XLR, I can use my XLR cables as extensions. This light is AWESOME
a massive but totally very secret thank you for you 👐