Man it must've been hard for William to kill all those kids with jaundice, mitten hands, and a featureless blob for a face. It also means the killer in Fruity Maze couldn't have been William because that person had eyes. /s
I love your lore videos because of how sensible they are. I am HUGE into the FNaF lore, and your thoughts and theories seem very possible with backed up evidence. The lore can get really confusing with how it’s organized and with all these secrets and easter eggs hidden throughout the games. Would love to see your future lore videos!!
I've never been too into the FNAF lore (since it is like. REALLY confusing for absolutely no reason) but I've really enjoy watching these lore videos. And you brought up some good points in this one too
The thing that really gets me thinking about the mini game is the intended takeaway. Whatever is happening in midnight motorist must be informative enough to have been worth Scott bothering to make midnight motorist. As a general rule, anything that happens in atari graphics is important information. He doesn't just throw in atari minigame scenes with redundant or useless information in them. The question is, what is the intended takeaway here? We do not have many cohesive households of characters that this place might represent, and in most possible configurations of those households, william/wife/mike, william/mike/crying child, henry/mike/William, etc. either the information is redundant and so the cutscene doesn't tell us anything (crying child running away to freddy's) or the resulting event is irrelevant nonsense due to too much missing information (pretty much any theory involving Henry). Then there's the Chica angle. In UCN, in one of the Chica highschool years videos, while trying to date the puppet, she describes very similar events, including going around the back, finding a window, and breaking it open to get to the person inside. Either this is a completely irrelevant red herring, or this is meant to tell us something. If its telling us something, there are a very small number of things it could be telling us. Either 1. Chica is involved. 2. The Puppet is involved. or 3. The figure outside was in fact breaking in, as in the high school years scene. Chica being involved might be less random than it sounds, since fruity maze is one of the other mini game easter eggs in fnaf 6, and the file name "Later that night" for midnight motorist may be referring to later after fruity maze rather than later after security puppet. Also a kidnapping isn't necessarily contradictory to orange guy's dialog, as he could simply be mistakenly assuming it was a runaway, except this time it wasn't a runaway. But in all of these scenarios...... what's the point? What does the scene tell us that is both new and relevant? That someone has gone back somewhere?
There's a theory the minigame represents William kidnapping one of the missing children, more likely Andrew, in the Springbonnie suit, and the parents are the parents of the child.
Yeah. Like if it's just a nightmare animatronic outside, what is the minigame actually conveying? And where would Michael go to escape them? Why would something like that make him run outside? I don't think he was kidnapped by the nightmares, because if he was then William would probably know since he supposedly controls them. (Personally I'm not a fan of the illusion disk theory regardless.)
@@crisbox2007 I think rather than it being a kidnapping, he just lured him away to his favourite place (Freddy Fazbear's), because that's where he runs away to when his dad gets drunk, as we see with Jr's, which is likely a bar that his dad goes to and is banned from for getting violent (probably). After he lures him away, he kills him.
@@KoopaKaper I think he just broke the window and kidnapped him, bc the window is broken and you wouldn't have to break your window if you can just open it Xd
There is actually little to no merit on bringing up the extremely minute details from semi-old games because at this point it is highly likely that Scott already placed new "hints" as details on later games. I believe that if someone is gonna bring up said old details, they have to be in the perspective of how the story is going on AT THAT TIME to be able to make sense of it fully as the meaning of these details might have been changed or entirely ret-conned over the years. I think we have been obssessing over these minute details thinking that Scott is a giga-galaxy-brain chad that had it all planned all along (Looking at you, Mattpat). Sure, the old games are the foundation of lore on the new ones but I really believe that the story we are all experiencing now have shifted already.
Dang wow that a poggers video right there, some tasty points The stalker animatronic outside going invisible is a really cool angle that hasn't been ever thought of before, as long as I can remember. Although I think it's just more simpler if the animatronic just walked backwards into the bushes. About the point of Scott not writing loopy character arcs, I think it's a bit iffy. Scott actually does write characters that loop in morality like sun/moon and Vanessa/Vanessa ordering things online/Vanny(if you think she's vanny). Although they have more clear cut explanations on why their morality differs, unlike what would be the case if MikeCouch was true, it is proof nonetheless that Scott could write non linear loopy characters that loop in morality. I also don't see why it would even matter at all if this type of character arc wasn't made by Scott before or that the change of morals isn't mentioned again, for supporting mikenotcouch. Heck, Mike's morality might not even be changing at all from mm to FNAF 4 if he was the couch guy, but instead adding more to the character, as we never see how he acts with the drunken father around in FNAF 4.
So I was originally going to comment on the last video, but got carried away and had to type it up in my notes app and then forgot to post it. But I don’t think its the day that the bite victim was buried - I think its the anniversary. I think it would give Michael enough time to go to that place multiple times, eventually becoming so obsessed with atonement for what he did that he’s able to become the character we play as in all the games without noping out - and it gives William enough time for his anger and grief to change him into an abusive implied-alcoholic who is so obsessed with this loss that he kills his friend and business partners kid. I feel like Charlies death wasn’t a deliberate attempt to put her in the puppet. William could probably see the puppet was trapped inside. I think it was an attempt to make Henry the same as him. (And obviously he then went on to kill a bunch more kids with the deliberate intention to either revive his two dead kids or “immortality” bluh bluh bluh I always thought that was such a boring interpretation) This is a really really heavily summarised version of my original comment, where I went into probably way too much detail with the hypothetical psychological effects that such a traumatic event might inflict on a family, and I think that the midnight motorist game is less about how many fucking toes an animatronic has and more about a family that is so fractured and on edge that William doesn’t even have to say *anything* for the person on the couch to be hyper aware of his intentions and immediately defensive of whoever is supposed to be in that room.
I wouldn't honestly hold the cd's high remarks as it being about Ms. Afton committing suicide. Fuhnaff found a calendar to established that SB year canon is 2035, so it seems such a stretch Vanessa having this tragic backstory that something could have happen in the 80's. I'm also on the side of those footprints are Golden Freddy, while many say it's a shadow doing it, Shadows don't have physical traits as they don't seem to kill or move objects, Golden Freddy on the other hand has the ability to teleport and physically interact in killing the night guard.
Vanessa (for some reason) has a lot of connections to Elizabeth’s life. Whether she’s a robot, or a person brainwashed into thinking it, or even a fazgoo clone, she seems to have her life overridden with Elizabeth’s. So her life details are important.
There’s evidence that the bunker was their robot lab. I don’t remember spiffcy. but just the way they talk about it. And all the Henry looking dolls. Also it just makes sense that Afton would have a lab for that.
Is Golden Freddy Fredbear? Yes and not just Fredbear, the first Fredbear. “But Fredbear has a purple hat and a purple bow tie” and he does but the FIRST Fredbear has a black bow tie and black hat. We know this because of the fnaf 3 mini game Stage01, the 01 means the first so it’s the first stage a.k.a the first fnaf location. If you need anymore proof to show that this first Fredbear’s family diner is the first fnaf location, in fnaf ar, the files have faz facts for when you would die, being scrapped later on. In one of those faz facts, it says that Fredbear’s family diner is the first fnaf location. “But it was unused!” Well even if it is, we still have the 01 in Stage01 to relate it to.
I've never understood the idea of the mound of dirt being Charlotte or the Crying Child's grave. Who tf would just bury their kid in a random hole in the forest and not a fucking graveyard???? Elizabeth's grave, maybe. If her body wasn't stuck inside CB and was able to be removed, maybe she was buried in a shitty grave because there would be no way for William to explain her death to authorities.
Thanks, so you believe that William used the Freddy suit to lure the children as spring bonnie is implied in several books and spin off games to be the suit Henry wore. Thus explaining William made a huge flaw of putting on the bonnie suit he wasn't as familiar with after destroying the animatronics in follow me. in fnaf 3 its then explaining the fnaf 3 trailer line "we have a place for him" implying he originally wore the suit to frame Henry. Thus shadow Freddy is his darkness Or do you believe he always wore the bonnie suit, and pieces of the spring bonnie suit were used in toy bonnie to repair it creating a new version of Shadow bonnie called shadow toy bonnie over shadow spring bonnie. But multiple bonnie suits exist, stage 1 springtrap the fnaf 4 closet version scraptrap ect
Was thinking that once he showed NM!Chica's feet and even noticed that she lacks that "back toe" chickens have. That would have definitely showed up in the footprints. Though, yeah, the story you mentioned is probably a parallel to Midnight Motorist.
I think the Theory itself is great - it makes you think, which is ultimately what a theory is meant to do after all is it not? On top of possibly providing an answer of course, but, and I said this on your last video, tho I was a bit late to the party lol, I still don’t see it being Mrs Afton on the couch and instead being Michael - the grey dialogue - as well as just the grey colouring of the outfit for one thing too - Michael being one of the only(?) characters shown in grey, granted this is a weak point. However, there’s also the layout of the house too. Fnaf 4 minigames shows that CC’s room is right next to the living room and Elizabeth’s room, obviously that section of the minigames when CC exits his room is set up in a 2D-ish fashion, so we can’t say for certain, however the layout does undoubtedly match the layout in midnight motorist, with CC’s room being right next to the living room. And as you mentioned, we’ve seen Michaels room as he is the one having the Fnaf 4 nightmares. He has two doors, one on the left and one on the right. If William came knocking on one of the doors, pounding on it to be let in, and then went around to the other side, why would there be a window there instead of the other door that we know Michaels room has? And from what we’ve seen of Mike’s room in Fnaf 4, it doesn’t seem to have a window? It may do so, but from what we’ve seen, it doesn’t seem to have one. Instead, and let me make a mini theory in this, what if this was setup to show that Michael wasn’t ALWAYS a bad brother? That at one point, he was protective? What if this night was the thing that changed it? Rather what happened during this night - Charlottes death. We know Charlotte indeed died this night, and the person in that room ran off to ‘That Place’ again. ‘That place’ is left ambiguous to what it is, so what if indeed it was the restaurant where William had just killed Charlotte? Henry and William were best friends, it’s not unusual therefore for Henry and Williams children to have known and cared for each other then. And if CC is the child that run from his room? It would justify both his fear of the animatronics AND his hatred for the Freddy’s locations - as William says in Fnaf 4 - “He knows you hate it here.” In regards to Fredbears Family Diner. It’s highly likely that CC saw Elizabeth get taken By Circus Baby, Hence his fear of the animatronics, however Circus Babys Pizza World was not a Freddy’s location. That was purely funded and created by William and Afton Robotics. So why does CC hate the Freddy’s locations? Well finding the dead body of his friend/non blood related cousin would be a viable reason to develop a hatred to those locations. Side note, I do believe Elizabeth died first - CC having seen something to do with the animatronics for one thing, as well as the fact that Charlie literally has a tracker on her as shown by the lefty blueprint (Green Bracelet that she wears) which seems to indicate that to Henry, someone important to him had gone missing(Elizabeth), else why would he place a tracker on Charlotte? So that outta the way, I do think CC either discovered - or saw her body being taken away, leading to his hatred of the locations on top of the animatronics, and this is the catalyst to why Michael started to bully him. That does leave questions tho, like how do we even know they were close? Michael and Charlotte that is. Well UCN does have something strange with Charlotte - she’s in it as both the Puppet and Lefty. Her Puppet voice lines are what you’d expect, “I don’t hate you. But you need to stay out of my way.” “Seeing you powerless is like music to me…” pretty much intended for William I think we can agree? However her Lefty dialogue is odd - “Shh. I’m so glad I found you…let me make room for you.” “Shh. I’ve been looking for you…and now I will never let you go…” quite simply, it’s a complete 180 on what she says as puppet, where she’s antagonistic to William, but now she’s glad to have found him? Which leads me to think, this dialogue is not intended for William. I considered if it was for Henry - but it’s unknown if Charlotte is even aware that Henry is there - Elizabeth certainly didn’t - “You don’t really know who your employer is, do you?” And her ending speech seem to imply she believes William is running the restaurant - which makes sense, how would she know William is Scraptrap? And then her dialogue also seems too…intimate? To say to Henry - her father, who is meant to be the protector role for her. And on top of that, who is the one person, throughout all of Fnaf, that lefty - and Charlotte - canonically attacks? Michael - or the Fnaf 6 Manager - she did spend the entirety of Fnaf 2 gameplay in the box(as If she left it, it usually meant…well always meant, luck excluded, game over), and in Fnaf 6 she literally ignores her killer to attack Michael instead? What did Michael possibly do that could make Charlotte hate him more than William - who had literally killed her - when Charlotte, in Henry’s words, wanted to protect and raise others up in her arms? Unless she’s not trying to kill Michael, rather capture him? Reminder, the thing Charlotte says to you when she gets you in Fnaf 6 is always “Shh.” The start of all her voicelines as lefty in UCN. So what if Michael was a good brother, and simply lashing out at the world - the easiest target in this moment being CC - who had also been the one to see Elizabeth last before going missing and then now either discovered or saw charlottes body (possibly something with Mrs Afton too? Vanessa’s story parallels the Aftons in general it seems, and if the divorce happened - a child would have had to lie in court - and CC does have a Fredbear plush that William uses to manipulate him, but that’s speculation), leading Michael to eventually start to bully CC severely. Again this is all a possibility, you might be able to disprove or find proof of it, I don’t know, but I thought it was a good idea, or at least an interesting one lol, to put it out there, apologies for The amount btw -_-“
'There isn't that much proof to show that William Afton is the one behind the slaughter... While "Eggs Benedict" makes more sense as their skin is purple because of decay. Think about it... Would you kill if you get kicked out of your job due to your stench that you cannot help? The children only brought back the memory as well as the memories where he lost everyone he knew and then William Afton got all the blame as he simply wore purple right at the wrong time in the wrong place.' - Chrome
Good job for the video! You present some good evidence, but I think I fundamentally disagree on some details because I think Charlie's death (and thus, Midnight Motorist) come before the Bite of 83. You may have explained why it is that way in another video but I thought of sharing my thoughts here because that's the first video of yours I've stumbled upon that made that point. The franchise from FNAF6 onwards really puts the emphasis on Charlie's death being basically the first thing of note that happened in the franchise (eespecially if you start including details from the book, in which we do have a date for Charlie's death, that being 1981, I wouldn't really have mentionned that but you did mention Step Closer in your editing of the previous video so I thought it was a worth to include). If that's the case, then William has no motive beyond being a psycopath... and honestly I think that's just that? I see a lot of people trying to give a reason to William as to why he kills, but there doesn't need to be one. Believe it or not, sometimes, people are just psychos, so y'know. If Charlie's death comes before, then that does leave the possibility of the runaway kid being CC, but I think I can agree with you that it's probably Michael and that couch potato is Henry. Yes, it could be Ms. Afton but I don't see why Scott would introduce her as a character only to say "she's a decent mother", that doesn't really bring anything to the narrative and storytelling table imo. Nonetheless, keep up the good work!
My interpretation is The Orange Guy is William The Runaway is Micheal The Couch Potato is Mrs Afton The Grave is The Box from FNAF 4 which Has Evan’s body in it
Yuhknow, we keep trying to make there be a Mrs afton. What if William and Henry were romantically involved and built robot kids for themselves bc they couldn't naturally conceive and they each basically build their own perfect versions of kids but ofc William is a maniac and their own robot kids can physically die but not spiritually which is why they keep coming back. Perhaps the MCI happened as a way to obtain the remnant needed for their robot kids to achieve true sentience and once Henry realized what William had done to make their children come to life he was disgusted and enraged. I also still think that CC is a young version of Mike Afton. Idk just some head canon of my own, take it as you will.
What if the footprint outside is the real golden freddy/fredbear after being possessed by the crying child? So it just watches through the window into Michael's room to torment him. After all golden freddy can for some reason just materialise if he wanted to
I know this looks and sounds quite stupid to think, but what if the orange man is actually Henry? (as I said this theory I'm about to tell is stupid). What if this takes place after cc, Elizabeth and William's death, leaving Micheal completely alone (and maybe he was still a minor, or anyways unable to live by himself) so Henry takes him to live with him. Maybe that person on the couch could've been Henry's wife? Idk? And maybe Henry (the orange man) sounded angry because Micheal has been doing it more than once (running away). It would be kind of weird for William to be orange, and especially for Mrs afton to be still alive, since we have never seen her or hear her getting mentioned in any way.
When he mentioned that, my first thought was Henry. Its most likely that after Mike's family died, he would need a guardian and who would be better than the family friend?
What if the rough day he had was accidentally killing his brother? What if he keeps sneaking out to go the pizzeria to visit his brothers spirit? Also the minigame does take place at night as the mini game is called MIDNIGHT motorist.
If it makes you feel better I forgot to talk about the tv. It’s elizabeth Michael and crying. Michael is the oldest and shown to be taller then the other two. Also miss Afton wasn’t even implied until sister location, while elizabeths was shown in fnaf 4.
Love your videos Man just started watching them today but I can clearly tell what you're saying can go somewhere compared to Matt Pat's I think you're doing better. at some point it seems like he's just trying to throw things together and see what sticks while you're one of the few RUclipsrs I've seen so far it's going to little bit more logical about it keep it up man I just subscribed and I want to see more
Because of this, I reread some of the theories around. What if this is the Emily Household and the Yellow mustard man was actually Henry and not william afton? Hear me out and this makes sense. Based on Silver Eyes book, the wife and Henry got divorced and the mother had custody of Sammy, Charlie's brother. The one sitting in front of the TV was Emilie, the mom. The one on the room was Sammy. "Leave him alone, he had a rough day." said the mom. That's because this is "later that night" or later after Charlie was killed. Here's the timeline for the Midnight motorist + puppet minigame: Charlie and her brother went to the party. Sammy was one of the three kids with the armband. Charlie was stuck outside and puppet was stuck because of the gifts. once the puppet got out, charlie was dead outside BUT he was killed by William Afton (Tire tracks gives me the reason that someone killed her). After the party, Charlie's Brother sammy, got the news that his sister was dead. He got home crying that was why "he had a rough day." William Afton then followed him home in the Spring Bonnie Suit and started looking at the back window. Standing until he can get to Sammy. Afterwards, William got out of the suit, walked toward the window, smashed it and kidnapped Sammy. (Window smashed from the outside, that's why there's no glass.) William kidnapped Sammy walked upwards to one of the car in JR's (the footsteps are from human william afton.) William went back recovered Bonnie Suit and "probably" went towards the grassy area so only standing footprint can be seen. Why did he need to get out of suit? Well, it's probably to avoid being heard walking towards the window. After this, Midnight motorist happens. Henry gets back. Talked to his wife, went to the back and "assumed" that Sammy "ran off to that place again." Few more points. I think JR's is the original Fnaf and not a second or improved. The footsteps show that it's going up from the back and pathway from JR's to Henry's House indicates that JR's is below the Henry Household. JR's is where Charlie was killed and where the party from the Puppet Mini game happened. The mound is probably Charlie's grave. Why did William have to kidnap Sammy? For Henry to build the scooper and help william afton for the advancement of animatronics. Basically, just to give Henry the motivation. Sammy wasn't killed but kidnapped based on Silver Eyes. I believe that's what happened in Midnight Motorist's "Later that night" + Puppet Mini game / Charlie's death.
And he would of been turned away from jrs becuase his employes would of wanted him to take a break or at least go home and grive. It being called jrs though is a bit odd though if your theory is true (of course it could of scotts short and simple way of convaing og fredbears.) Either way i never thought of this minigame in this way.
The nightmares aren’t cannon though are they? Like they aren’t real animatronics that have been built. It’s only their mechanics that are cannon, as in the opening chest cavity that the crying child saw and then manifested in his nightmare visions of the fazbear animatronics
They aren't real. Will is using illusion discs to scare CC into submission because he keeps on ruing asway. But that fear and agony, made them some what real. They don't have body's in the real world. Yet. Nightmare puppet might get one soon. It made them repeat able personality's.
3:28 yeaaaah... but she is the only character in the minigame who has gray cloths and has eyes unlike orenge guy or green guy, to me it is strange how scott made william an the other guy just green stick figures but the sofa guy has details like cloths and eyes, It ofcours doesnot mean that orenge and green guys are naked but I think it means that sofa guy actually can be bold due to the fact that he has the details. The reason kids are bold is just beacuse small kids don't have much hair, and even though the kids could be like 5 or 6, they are drown bold to show us that they are kids. in old games william has details like eyes and a bage but he is purple and so we don't see on the sprite if he is bold or has haird cause he just fully purple, in shadows
I'm insanely confused right now. If the Crying Child died before Charlotte Emily was murdered by William Afton, than how on Earth can Charlotte be haunting the Fredbear plush if she's not even dead yet? It just doesn't make sense. The only other option is that the person who ran away in the Midnight Motorist mini-game is the Crying Child, and the person sitting on the couch is Michael Afton, and I don't want to believe that. The two theories of Charlie being the one who haunts the Fredbear plush and Michael being the one who ran away in the Midnight Motorist mini-game cannot co-exist with one another.
@@siresquawks Yeah, it is kind of strange how Scott doesn't even mention CharliePlush theory in the Ultimate Guide, which means its probably not true. Thanks for the response! Keep making awesome vids!
@@siresquawks Wait my only question is that if the plush is William than how is the plush talking to us at the same time the Crying Child sees William putting someone into a spring lock suit? The plush has to be just a hallucination and/or imaginary friend, right? Also I don’t think there’s any way William could or would say to his kid on his death bed, “We are still your friends. Do you still believe that?” It doesn’t make sense, but it would make more sense if Charlotte said this. These are just my thoughts, though.
@@Cxsonn well Fredbear doesn’t speak in that scene so it’s not that absurd. And Bite Victim doesn’t know that Fredbear is his dead which makes sense of the friends line.
I think the kid leaving is Michael heading off to his night shifts trying to free the kids, this makes sense because there is no sign of even or Elizabeth which means at this point those 2 are dead which means Michael at this point is older. Also notice the name of the mini game, midnight motorist, what happens at midnight in every game? The start of a new night, which means Michael probably busted out because his younger brother was outside the window telling him to come help so Michael left for his night shift right before William got home. Idk just some thoughts
That’s interesting but the internal name of the minigame is called “later that night” connecting to the end of the security puppet minigame where Charlie dies, so this would be very early in the timeline, right after Charlie dies.
maybe thats why we didnt see her in the games or mentioned anywere ,she died from cancer ,no one killed her and william tried to experiment with remnant to save her wife , he created those animatronics that kill people to obtain remnant , this is maybe the reason he kills in this series , he truly loves his family since he in fnaf sb he stries to unite the family and bring them back together .
Her having cancer could make sense. And that after she lost custody she didn't see a reason to continue fighting cancer since her main reason for fighting cancer would be for her kids. But like.u said it doesn't matter much how she died we just know that she killed herself
Dude. The guy on the couch was mrs afton now the one in the grave was Crying child dead. And michael was inside the room. Will was in mrs Afton house. When cc( crying child) died be was drunk. But one night golden freedy or cc came to michael room and when michael saw him outside the window he broke the window and went to fredbears. After all fredbears was close to their house. Now we dont know what happened after he left the house. But this didnt really mean anything. It shows that what happened when cc was put together in the golden freedy suit by puppet. But some say that he was put together by will. This doesn't mean that much. What does means important is that when was put together he came towards michael. And he was full of rage. Idk but why nightmare fredbear is scary cuz hes angry. Michael saw him as crying child in his dream. And all the animatronics he let as his nightmares. But one was Mich disturbing than the other ones. His true nightmare fredbear or his dead little brother. While for some nights he had this nightmares. It could have been usual too. You see after his nightmares he was given a job to go work at the afton robotics to fix them. And who gave him this job? William. After he was working William went for taking the souls from the old FNAF 1 animatronics. Their souls were connected to the metals and went for it. Well rest is history. After working at Afton robotics and finding more info bout his mother and sister. Sister location is meant for both reasons. In matpat recent theory it's the place William created thousands of Elizabeth. And one is vannesa the night guard at Mega pizzaplex while the other was Vanny poccesed by william Afton when working on testing Fnaf help wanted with a glitch trap aka william Afton connected to the computers. What is interesting is that canny was poccesed to bring back his father. And with all codings she knew she was an expert in hacking through the pizzaplex. While Vannesa was not experienced with any job. She worked in pizzaplex. The one running the company was Elizabeth. She also wanted to bring back her father too. After knowing that she was also poccesed by will I began to know that everyone except Vannesa(could be not sure) not poccesed by will. By she could had been. You see, if william died then both canny and Vannesa or even elizabeth wouldnt be poccesed. That's what the good ending is for. while another little girls was there in the photo if everyone saw it. It was also Elizabeth but small. These were actually robots. Gregory was also a robot. And he was made as cc. While its unsure that william made thousands of Gregory's. now this is one sister location where many sisters are there, the location of many sisters. While another is that where sister location is the location of Michael's sister.
Its raining when Charlie is killed. This means Fred Bare was just vibing for god knows how long. then de clocked, then recloaked. Just because he has camo doesn't mean that gravity stopped working. Fred bare when he's in the back ground, he is shown as purple. Shadow Freddy is shown to appeared and disappear. He's shown to lead people to William follow me. These are always end in L moments. He has three toes. He was in fnaf 4. Showing he's not tied to the building. In the toy Chica high school years, when Chica is plotting to seduce the puppet she talks about luring them out a window. Then she talks about setting the house on fire. in Ennard vent repair, you set the sister location on fire, and that's under the Affton house. In the black light vent repair, shadow Freddy makes a cameo.
Couldn’t the pile of dirt be where the animatronic is? Like it goes away once William comes home so if Michael shows William, there’ll be nothing there?
I 100% agree on the William is orange. Even at this day, I don't understand why they call him "purple guy" when the thing is literally orange. I mean I know purple guy but how is that guy in the midnight motorist, "purple guy" when he's literally orange.
Well I agree with the theory of Mike being the runaway kid since I belive mike is BV, but we also know from Charlotte's death date and the bite of 83 date that Charlotte gets killed before the bite, her death being in may 1983 compared to the bite being in fall I also believe that Elizabeth and Cassidy (yes I belive Cassidy is an Afton) where at Mrs aftons house, becuase in security breach we see that atleast one of the 2 Afton daughters had to be moved around houses many times so that's why they don't appear in the minigames
What if... Midnight motorist is not William, mean the guy is YELLOW now PURPLE. It's all just about some other kid that gets kidnapped and killed by William.
@@siresquawks But the only indicator that it is William is actually the color of the car and that the character has a son. The other minigames show how William lures and kills other victims so that would be keeping up with that. DMuted made a great video about that that convinced me that way. Have you given it a watch? If so I'd love to hear you debunking his points. This series is so full of topics for endless discussions, haha.
@@PokemonkaDub an interesting take I remember back in the fnaf 6 theory made by matpat was that William was orange because there were two purple guy’s walking around William and Michael
Ehh as much as I do like the idea of CC being with Cassidy in Golden Freddy mostly cuz imagine how many conversations that would be I do like CC being Micheal too and the older brother being someone else like I know the Minecraft videos aren't Canon but I could see the idea of William using other kids souls or remnant to revive him heck maybe even using CC's own soul to do it or making a robot that he puts the soul into there's a lot you can do with that idea but to late since it's been in ways confirmed that CC isn't Micheal but just a character without a name or at least not confirmed name
this is completely unrelated but one thing that has always annoyed me, was people saying that william afton keeps changing suits. and what????? that's always mentioned, they keep saying he dragged himself out of one and rebuilt himself in a different one, what if, now hear me out, it's just a redesign, and it's not relevant to the lore at all? what if **most** things are irrelevant to the lore??? fucking fnaf lore, man.
If I am not wrong, There's a Easter egg in fnaf 2, everybody knows it, SHADOW Freddy, as he is a copy of Golden Fredboi isn't him ? We can see in the camera, parts and service in a moment, That he has THREE fingers too. It can be him....
ummmm i want to ask you something why woude henry be in william's hous becouse in the minigame he never says anything about wanting to build a scopper and why woude henry want to not make william do something bad to the crying child like i'm not even joking you saying that fellt like you needing to say that it's not michael even if in the minigame it's heavly implyed that it's michael with you know stuff like the man on the chair having the same grey color on his speaking text like michael in fnaf 4 and the man on the chair even wearing a grey shirt like michael in fnaf 4 which is pretty good evidence as well + (this something i sayd in my last comment but i will say it again) just becouse the man on the chair isn't mean to the run away kid (being crying child) deosn't mean it's not michael still you saying that midnight motorist was after the bit is something i disagree on becouse midnight motorist heavly implys that it's michael on the chair and since t.m.o.t.c is wanting to not make william do something bad to c.c. it heavly implys that michael first cared about c.c. but since william has been treating michael badly but william starts liking c.c. more this makes michael dis like him as well which is why he deosn't like c.c. in fnaf 4 so yeah this implys that midnight motorist was before the bit since we know by the fact that michael isn't mean to crying child as well so yeah again i disagree that midnight motorist is before the bit ok good (sorry that the comment is long).
I always thought that it was just William thinking that Michael had a rough day at work (sister location) and that he should let him sit and watch TV at midnight.
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William exclusively targets cancer patients because they remind him of his wife but that’s just a theory, A GAME THEORY THANKS FOR READING THE BOOKS
It’s nightmare Chica and she threw the cupcake. That’s why there’s no glass.
Honestly more logical than some comments I saw
Nightmare chica is an illusion, she can't just do that. But it might be an endoskeleton.
Nightmare chica comments crimes lol
Man it must've been hard for William to kill all those kids with jaundice, mitten hands, and a featureless blob for a face. It also means the killer in Fruity Maze couldn't have been William because that person had eyes. /s
William Afton is Dave Miller from DSAF confirmed. Thx for the clues, Old Sport
I love your lore videos because of how sensible they are. I am HUGE into the FNaF lore, and your thoughts and theories seem very possible with backed up evidence. The lore can get really confusing with how it’s organized and with all these secrets and easter eggs hidden throughout the games. Would love to see your future lore videos!!
The idea of Henry being the one watching TV literally blew my mind.
Every human in fnaf has cancer, there was no murders, it was all just large amounts of people suddenly dying from cancer
Canon
In the security log book, nightmare Fred bear has all four toes intact.
I think that’s a artist error. But shows the artist intent.
Even though his toes are ripped you can tell he has four. His endoskeleton also has more than 3 toes.
All nightmares except nightmare chica have 4 toes.
@@THGMR-ox7sd maybe it’s like a glove that has two fingers in one hole.
I've never been too into the FNAF lore (since it is like. REALLY confusing for absolutely no reason) but I've really enjoy watching these lore videos. And you brought up some good points in this one too
The thing that really gets me thinking about the mini game is the intended takeaway.
Whatever is happening in midnight motorist must be informative enough to have been worth Scott bothering to make midnight motorist. As a general rule, anything that happens in atari graphics is important information. He doesn't just throw in atari minigame scenes with redundant or useless information in them.
The question is, what is the intended takeaway here? We do not have many cohesive households of characters that this place might represent, and in most possible configurations of those households, william/wife/mike, william/mike/crying child, henry/mike/William, etc. either the information is redundant and so the cutscene doesn't tell us anything (crying child running away to freddy's) or the resulting event is irrelevant nonsense due to too much missing information (pretty much any theory involving Henry).
Then there's the Chica angle. In UCN, in one of the Chica highschool years videos, while trying to date the puppet, she describes very similar events, including going around the back, finding a window, and breaking it open to get to the person inside. Either this is a completely irrelevant red herring, or this is meant to tell us something. If its telling us something, there are a very small number of things it could be telling us. Either 1. Chica is involved. 2. The Puppet is involved. or 3. The figure outside was in fact breaking in, as in the high school years scene.
Chica being involved might be less random than it sounds, since fruity maze is one of the other mini game easter eggs in fnaf 6, and the file name "Later that night" for midnight motorist may be referring to later after fruity maze rather than later after security puppet. Also a kidnapping isn't necessarily contradictory to orange guy's dialog, as he could simply be mistakenly assuming it was a runaway, except this time it wasn't a runaway.
But in all of these scenarios...... what's the point? What does the scene tell us that is both new and relevant? That someone has gone back somewhere?
Theres a theory that cc escaped and found charlie dead body, and thats why hes so scared of the animatronics, because he saw puppet near a dead kid
There's a theory the minigame represents William kidnapping one of the missing children, more likely Andrew, in the Springbonnie suit, and the parents are the parents of the child.
Yeah. Like if it's just a nightmare animatronic outside, what is the minigame actually conveying? And where would Michael go to escape them? Why would something like that make him run outside? I don't think he was kidnapped by the nightmares, because if he was then William would probably know since he supposedly controls them. (Personally I'm not a fan of the illusion disk theory regardless.)
@@crisbox2007 I think rather than it being a kidnapping, he just lured him away to his favourite place (Freddy Fazbear's), because that's where he runs away to when his dad gets drunk, as we see with Jr's, which is likely a bar that his dad goes to and is banned from for getting violent (probably). After he lures him away, he kills him.
@@KoopaKaper I think he just broke the window and kidnapped him, bc the window is broken and you wouldn't have to break your window if you can just open it Xd
There is actually little to no merit on bringing up the extremely minute details from semi-old games because at this point it is highly likely that Scott already placed new "hints" as details on later games. I believe that if someone is gonna bring up said old details, they have to be in the perspective of how the story is going on AT THAT TIME to be able to make sense of it fully as the meaning of these details might have been changed or entirely ret-conned over the years.
I think we have been obssessing over these minute details thinking that Scott is a giga-galaxy-brain chad that had it all planned all along (Looking at you, Mattpat). Sure, the old games are the foundation of lore on the new ones but I really believe that the story we are all experiencing now have shifted already.
Also, give this man 1k subs so they can finally apply for monetization!
i'm leaning to the man on the couch being henry more than the mother
Lmao this was directed at me. But I love your content man. You gave me inspiration to write a theory in the first place. Keep up the good work.
Dang wow that a poggers video right there, some tasty points
The stalker animatronic outside going invisible is a really cool angle that hasn't been ever thought of before, as long as I can remember. Although I think it's just more simpler if the animatronic just walked backwards into the bushes.
About the point of Scott not writing loopy character arcs, I think it's a bit iffy. Scott actually does write characters that loop in morality like sun/moon and Vanessa/Vanessa ordering things online/Vanny(if you think she's vanny). Although they have more clear cut explanations on why their morality differs, unlike what would be the case if MikeCouch was true, it is proof nonetheless that Scott could write non linear loopy characters that loop in morality. I also don't see why it would even matter at all if this type of character arc wasn't made by Scott before or that the change of morals isn't mentioned again, for supporting mikenotcouch. Heck, Mike's morality might not even be changing at all from mm to FNAF 4 if he was the couch guy, but instead adding more to the character, as we never see how he acts with the drunken father around in FNAF 4.
Honestly sun and moon could be considered two characters that share a body. And Vanessa’s similar.
So I was originally going to comment on the last video, but got carried away and had to type it up in my notes app and then forgot to post it.
But I don’t think its the day that the bite victim was buried - I think its the anniversary. I think it would give Michael enough time to go to that place multiple times, eventually becoming so obsessed with atonement for what he did that he’s able to become the character we play as in all the games without noping out - and it gives William enough time for his anger and grief to change him into an abusive implied-alcoholic who is so obsessed with this loss that he kills his friend and business partners kid. I feel like Charlies death wasn’t a deliberate attempt to put her in the puppet. William could probably see the puppet was trapped inside. I think it was an attempt to make Henry the same as him. (And obviously he then went on to kill a bunch more kids with the deliberate intention to either revive his two dead kids or “immortality” bluh bluh bluh I always thought that was such a boring interpretation)
This is a really really heavily summarised version of my original comment, where I went into probably way too much detail with the hypothetical psychological effects that such a traumatic event might inflict on a family, and I think that the midnight motorist game is less about how many fucking toes an animatronic has and more about a family that is so fractured and on edge that William doesn’t even have to say *anything* for the person on the couch to be hyper aware of his intentions and immediately defensive of whoever is supposed to be in that room.
I wouldn't honestly hold the cd's high remarks as it being about Ms. Afton committing suicide. Fuhnaff found a calendar to established that SB year canon is 2035, so it seems such a stretch Vanessa having this tragic backstory that something could have happen in the 80's. I'm also on the side of those footprints are Golden Freddy, while many say it's a shadow doing it, Shadows don't have physical traits as they don't seem to kill or move objects, Golden Freddy on the other hand has the ability to teleport and physically interact in killing the night guard.
Vanessa (for some reason) has a lot of connections to Elizabeth’s life. Whether she’s a robot, or a person brainwashed into thinking it, or even a fazgoo clone, she seems to have her life overridden with Elizabeth’s. So her life details are important.
There’s evidence that the bunker was their robot lab. I don’t remember spiffcy. but just the way they talk about it. And all the Henry looking dolls.
Also it just makes sense that Afton would have a lab for that.
I love people picking apart these games, I was invested from the first game
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭when he started talking about how everyone was bald
Is Golden Freddy Fredbear? Yes and not just Fredbear, the first Fredbear. “But Fredbear has a purple hat and a purple bow tie” and he does but the FIRST Fredbear has a black bow tie and black hat. We know this because of the fnaf 3 mini game Stage01, the 01 means the first so it’s the first stage a.k.a the first fnaf location. If you need anymore proof to show that this first Fredbear’s family diner is the first fnaf location, in fnaf ar, the files have faz facts for when you would die, being scrapped later on. In one of those faz facts, it says that Fredbear’s family diner is the first fnaf location. “But it was unused!” Well even if it is, we still have the 01 in Stage01 to relate it to.
I've never understood the idea of the mound of dirt being Charlotte or the Crying Child's grave. Who tf would just bury their kid in a random hole in the forest and not a fucking graveyard???? Elizabeth's grave, maybe. If her body wasn't stuck inside CB and was able to be removed, maybe she was buried in a shitty grave because there would be no way for William to explain her death to authorities.
Imagine its the sister location...
And William told Mike where to find it under the mound of dirt.
Thanks, so you believe that William used the Freddy suit to lure the children as spring bonnie is implied in several books and spin off games to be the suit Henry wore. Thus explaining William made a huge flaw of putting on the bonnie suit he wasn't as familiar with after destroying the animatronics in follow me. in fnaf 3 its then explaining the fnaf 3 trailer line "we have a place for him" implying he originally wore the suit to frame Henry. Thus shadow Freddy is his darkness
Or do you believe he always wore the bonnie suit, and pieces of the spring bonnie suit were used in toy bonnie to repair it creating a new version of Shadow bonnie called shadow toy bonnie over shadow spring bonnie. But multiple bonnie suits exist, stage 1 springtrap the fnaf 4 closet version scraptrap ect
didnt watch the video yet, but iirc its was always implied to be the contrary, william wore springbonnie, henry fredbear.
With the running away again stuff around 6:55 this could just be like an anniversary date instead of the exact day
It could be chica she has 3 toes and there's a whole book written about her standing outside a house
Was thinking that once he showed NM!Chica's feet and even noticed that she lacks that "back toe" chickens have. That would have definitely showed up in the footprints.
Though, yeah, the story you mentioned is probably a parallel to Midnight Motorist.
@@Takejiro24 looking at the vr games models it seems she doesn't have a back toe
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I think the Theory itself is great - it makes you think, which is ultimately what a theory is meant to do after all is it not? On top of possibly providing an answer of course, but, and I said this on your last video, tho I was a bit late to the party lol, I still don’t see it being Mrs Afton on the couch and instead being Michael - the grey dialogue - as well as just the grey colouring of the outfit for one thing too - Michael being one of the only(?) characters shown in grey, granted this is a weak point. However, there’s also the layout of the house too.
Fnaf 4 minigames shows that CC’s room is right next to the living room and Elizabeth’s room, obviously that section of the minigames when CC exits his room is set up in a 2D-ish fashion, so we can’t say for certain, however the layout does undoubtedly match the layout in midnight motorist, with CC’s room being right next to the living room. And as you mentioned, we’ve seen Michaels room as he is the one having the Fnaf 4 nightmares. He has two doors, one on the left and one on the right. If William came knocking on one of the doors, pounding on it to be let in, and then went around to the other side, why would there be a window there instead of the other door that we know Michaels room has? And from what we’ve seen of Mike’s room in Fnaf 4, it doesn’t seem to have a window? It may do so, but from what we’ve seen, it doesn’t seem to have one.
Instead, and let me make a mini theory in this, what if this was setup to show that Michael wasn’t ALWAYS a bad brother? That at one point, he was protective? What if this night was the thing that changed it? Rather what happened during this night - Charlottes death. We know Charlotte indeed died this night, and the person in that room ran off to ‘That Place’ again. ‘That place’ is left ambiguous to what it is, so what if indeed it was the restaurant where William had just killed Charlotte? Henry and William were best friends, it’s not unusual therefore for Henry and Williams children to have known and cared for each other then. And if CC is the child that run from his room? It would justify both his fear of the animatronics AND his hatred for the Freddy’s locations - as William says in Fnaf 4 - “He knows you hate it here.” In regards to Fredbears Family Diner.
It’s highly likely that CC saw Elizabeth get taken By Circus Baby, Hence his fear of the animatronics, however Circus Babys Pizza World was not a Freddy’s location. That was purely funded and created by William and Afton Robotics. So why does CC hate the Freddy’s locations? Well finding the dead body of his friend/non blood related cousin would be a viable reason to develop a hatred to those locations. Side note, I do believe Elizabeth died first - CC having seen something to do with the animatronics for one thing, as well as the fact that Charlie literally has a tracker on her as shown by the lefty blueprint (Green Bracelet that she wears) which seems to indicate that to Henry, someone important to him had gone missing(Elizabeth), else why would he place a tracker on Charlotte? So that outta the way, I do think CC either discovered - or saw her body being taken away, leading to his hatred of the locations on top of the animatronics, and this is the catalyst to why Michael started to bully him.
That does leave questions tho, like how do we even know they were close? Michael and Charlotte that is. Well UCN does have something strange with Charlotte - she’s in it as both the Puppet and Lefty. Her Puppet voice lines are what you’d expect, “I don’t hate you. But you need to stay out of my way.” “Seeing you powerless is like music to me…” pretty much intended for William I think we can agree?
However her Lefty dialogue is odd - “Shh. I’m so glad I found you…let me make room for you.” “Shh. I’ve been looking for you…and now I will never let you go…” quite simply, it’s a complete 180 on what she says as puppet, where she’s antagonistic to William, but now she’s glad to have found him? Which leads me to think, this dialogue is not intended for William. I considered if it was for Henry - but it’s unknown if Charlotte is even aware that Henry is there - Elizabeth certainly didn’t - “You don’t really know who your employer is, do you?” And her ending speech seem to imply she believes William is running the restaurant - which makes sense, how would she know William is Scraptrap? And then her dialogue also seems too…intimate? To say to Henry - her father, who is meant to be the protector role for her. And on top of that, who is the one person, throughout all of Fnaf, that lefty - and Charlotte - canonically attacks? Michael - or the Fnaf 6 Manager - she did spend the entirety of Fnaf 2 gameplay in the box(as If she left it, it usually meant…well always meant, luck excluded, game over), and in Fnaf 6 she literally ignores her killer to attack Michael instead? What did Michael possibly do that could make Charlotte hate him more than William - who had literally killed her - when Charlotte, in Henry’s words, wanted to protect and raise others up in her arms? Unless she’s not trying to kill Michael, rather capture him? Reminder, the thing Charlotte says to you when she gets you in Fnaf 6 is always “Shh.” The start of all her voicelines as lefty in UCN.
So what if Michael was a good brother, and simply lashing out at the world - the easiest target in this moment being CC - who had also been the one to see Elizabeth last before going missing and then now either discovered or saw charlottes body (possibly something with Mrs Afton too? Vanessa’s story parallels the Aftons in general it seems, and if the divorce happened - a child would have had to lie in court - and CC does have a Fredbear plush that William uses to manipulate him, but that’s speculation), leading Michael to eventually start to bully CC severely.
Again this is all a possibility, you might be able to disprove or find proof of it, I don’t know, but I thought it was a good idea, or at least an interesting one lol, to put it out there, apologies for The amount btw -_-“
'There isn't that much proof to show that William Afton is the one behind the slaughter... While "Eggs Benedict" makes more sense as their skin is purple because of decay. Think about it... Would you kill if you get kicked out of your job due to your stench that you cannot help? The children only brought back the memory as well as the memories where he lost everyone he knew and then William Afton got all the blame as he simply wore purple right at the wrong time in the wrong place.' - Chrome
I hated having to listen to someone calling the crying child "evan"
It's just the theory of a name that could be the bv name, I see nothing wrong with it, if he supports that theory, let him be
Good job for the video! You present some good evidence, but I think I fundamentally disagree on some details because I think Charlie's death (and thus, Midnight Motorist) come before the Bite of 83. You may have explained why it is that way in another video but I thought of sharing my thoughts here because that's the first video of yours I've stumbled upon that made that point.
The franchise from FNAF6 onwards really puts the emphasis on Charlie's death being basically the first thing of note that happened in the franchise (eespecially if you start including details from the book, in which we do have a date for Charlie's death, that being 1981, I wouldn't really have mentionned that but you did mention Step Closer in your editing of the previous video so I thought it was a worth to include). If that's the case, then William has no motive beyond being a psycopath... and honestly I think that's just that? I see a lot of people trying to give a reason to William as to why he kills, but there doesn't need to be one. Believe it or not, sometimes, people are just psychos, so y'know.
If Charlie's death comes before, then that does leave the possibility of the runaway kid being CC, but I think I can agree with you that it's probably Michael and that couch potato is Henry. Yes, it could be Ms. Afton but I don't see why Scott would introduce her as a character only to say "she's a decent mother", that doesn't really bring anything to the narrative and storytelling table imo.
Nonetheless, keep up the good work!
This is great
I did my own video on the FNAf lore a week ago and your content trumps it
My interpretation is
The Orange Guy is William
The Runaway is Micheal
The Couch Potato is Mrs Afton
The Grave is The Box from FNAF 4 which Has Evan’s body in it
Yuhknow, we keep trying to make there be a Mrs afton. What if William and Henry were romantically involved and built robot kids for themselves bc they couldn't naturally conceive and they each basically build their own perfect versions of kids but ofc William is a maniac and their own robot kids can physically die but not spiritually which is why they keep coming back. Perhaps the MCI happened as a way to obtain the remnant needed for their robot kids to achieve true sentience and once Henry realized what William had done to make their children come to life he was disgusted and enraged. I also still think that CC is a young version of Mike Afton. Idk just some head canon of my own, take it as you will.
Interesting idea
What if the footprint outside is the real golden freddy/fredbear after being possessed by the crying child? So it just watches through the window into Michael's room to torment him. After all golden freddy can for some reason just materialise if he wanted to
I know this looks and sounds quite stupid to think, but what if the orange man is actually Henry? (as I said this theory I'm about to tell is stupid).
What if this takes place after cc, Elizabeth and William's death, leaving Micheal completely alone (and maybe he was still a minor, or anyways unable to live by himself) so Henry takes him to live with him. Maybe that person on the couch could've been Henry's wife? Idk? And maybe Henry (the orange man) sounded angry because Micheal has been doing it more than once (running away). It would be kind of weird for William to be orange, and especially for Mrs afton to be still alive, since we have never seen her or hear her getting mentioned in any way.
When he mentioned that, my first thought was Henry. Its most likely that after Mike's family died, he would need a guardian and who would be better than the family friend?
@@mangleplush6982 yeah, Henry was the only one left with him.
What if the rough day he had was accidentally killing his brother? What if he keeps sneaking out to go the pizzeria to visit his brothers spirit? Also the minigame does take place at night as the mini game is called MIDNIGHT motorist.
I mean that’s part of the original theory
Don’t really recall you mentioning that but I’ll take your word on it
Micheal is just jack Kennedy from dayshift obvs
Eyy my window theory got mentioned and I didn't notice that the footprints are going away. I guess that's just a theory. A game..............
If it makes you feel better I forgot to talk about the tv.
It’s elizabeth Michael and crying.
Michael is the oldest and shown to be taller then the other two.
Also miss Afton wasn’t even implied until sister location, while elizabeths was shown in fnaf 4.
You mean the pigtail girl was Elizabeth?
@@Takejiro24 Elizabeth was shown. And was heavily implied to be dead.
@@Hot_SpicyGrill Ah. Gotcha. Thanks.
Love your videos Man just started watching them today but I can clearly tell what you're saying can go somewhere compared to Matt Pat's I think you're doing better. at some point it seems like he's just trying to throw things together and see what sticks while you're one of the few RUclipsrs I've seen so far it's going to little bit more logical about it keep it up man I just subscribed and I want to see more
Of course chica has 3, she’s a chicken. Chickens have 3 toes
Because of this, I reread some of the theories around. What if this is the Emily Household and the Yellow mustard man was actually Henry and not william afton?
Hear me out and this makes sense. Based on Silver Eyes book, the wife and Henry got divorced and the mother had custody of Sammy, Charlie's brother. The one sitting in front of the TV was Emilie, the mom. The one on the room was Sammy. "Leave him alone, he had a rough day." said the mom. That's because this is "later that night" or later after Charlie was killed.
Here's the timeline for the Midnight motorist + puppet minigame:
Charlie and her brother went to the party. Sammy was one of the three kids with the armband. Charlie was stuck outside and puppet was stuck because of the gifts. once the puppet got out, charlie was dead outside BUT he was killed by William Afton (Tire tracks gives me the reason that someone killed her).
After the party, Charlie's Brother sammy, got the news that his sister was dead. He got home crying that was why "he had a rough day." William Afton then followed him home in the Spring Bonnie Suit and started looking at the back window. Standing until he can get to Sammy. Afterwards, William got out of the suit, walked toward the window, smashed it and kidnapped Sammy. (Window smashed from the outside, that's why there's no glass.) William kidnapped Sammy walked upwards to one of the car in JR's (the footsteps are from human william afton.)
William went back recovered Bonnie Suit and "probably" went towards the grassy area so only standing footprint can be seen. Why did he need to get out of suit? Well, it's probably to avoid being heard walking towards the window.
After this, Midnight motorist happens. Henry gets back. Talked to his wife, went to the back and "assumed" that Sammy "ran off to that place again."
Few more points.
I think JR's is the original Fnaf and not a second or improved. The footsteps show that it's going up from the back and pathway from JR's to Henry's House indicates that JR's is below the Henry Household. JR's is where Charlie was killed and where the party from the Puppet Mini game happened. The mound is probably Charlie's grave.
Why did William have to kidnap Sammy?
For Henry to build the scooper and help william afton for the advancement of animatronics. Basically, just to give Henry the motivation. Sammy wasn't killed but kidnapped based on Silver Eyes.
I believe that's what happened in Midnight Motorist's "Later that night" + Puppet Mini game / Charlie's death.
And he would of been turned away from jrs becuase his employes would of wanted him to take a break or at least go home and grive. It being called jrs though is a bit odd though if your theory is true (of course it could of scotts short and simple way of convaing og fredbears.) Either way i never thought of this minigame in this way.
This theory, actually makes some sense
The nightmares aren’t cannon though are they? Like they aren’t real animatronics that have been built. It’s only their mechanics that are cannon, as in the opening chest cavity that the crying child saw and then manifested in his nightmare visions of the fazbear animatronics
They aren't real. Will is using illusion discs to scare CC into submission because he keeps on ruing asway. But that fear and agony, made them some what real.
They don't have body's in the real world. Yet. Nightmare puppet might get one soon.
It made them repeat able personality's.
After the bite they probably wanted to get Fredbear out of there, so Willy could have taken it home in lue of it getting thrown in the dumpster.
3:28 yeaaaah... but she is the only character in the minigame who has gray cloths and has eyes unlike orenge guy or green guy, to me it is strange how scott made william an the other guy just green stick figures but the sofa guy has details like cloths and eyes, It ofcours doesnot mean that orenge and green guys are naked but I think it means that sofa guy actually can be bold due to the fact that he has the details. The reason kids are bold is just beacuse small kids don't have much hair, and even though the kids could be like 5 or 6, they are drown bold to show us that they are kids. in old games william has details like eyes and a bage but he is purple and so we don't see on the sprite if he is bold or has haird cause he just fully purple, in shadows
I'm insanely confused right now. If the Crying Child died before Charlotte Emily was murdered by William Afton, than how on Earth can Charlotte be haunting the Fredbear plush if she's not even dead yet? It just doesn't make sense. The only other option is that the person who ran away in the Midnight Motorist mini-game is the Crying Child, and the person sitting on the couch is Michael Afton, and I don't want to believe that. The two theories of Charlie being the one who haunts the Fredbear plush and Michael being the one who ran away in the Midnight Motorist mini-game cannot co-exist with one another.
It's because she's not the fredbear plush that's been deconfirmed for 5+ years now.
@@siresquawks Yeah, it is kind of strange how Scott doesn't even mention CharliePlush theory in the Ultimate Guide, which means its probably not true.
Thanks for the response! Keep making awesome vids!
@@siresquawks Wait my only question is that if the plush is William than how is the plush talking to us at the same time the Crying Child sees William putting someone into a spring lock suit? The plush has to be just a hallucination and/or imaginary friend, right?
Also I don’t think there’s any way William could or would say to his kid on his death bed, “We are still your friends. Do you still believe that?” It doesn’t make sense, but it would make more sense if Charlotte said this.
These are just my thoughts, though.
@@siresquawks Just out of curiosity, how was it deconfirmed? I wasn’t aware of this
@@Cxsonn well Fredbear doesn’t speak in that scene so it’s not that absurd. And Bite Victim doesn’t know that Fredbear is his dead which makes sense of the friends line.
I think the kid leaving is Michael heading off to his night shifts trying to free the kids, this makes sense because there is no sign of even or Elizabeth which means at this point those 2 are dead which means Michael at this point is older. Also notice the name of the mini game, midnight motorist, what happens at midnight in every game? The start of a new night, which means Michael probably busted out because his younger brother was outside the window telling him to come help so Michael left for his night shift right before William got home. Idk just some thoughts
That’s interesting but the internal name of the minigame is called “later that night” connecting to the end of the security puppet minigame where Charlie dies, so this would be very early in the timeline, right after Charlie dies.
maybe thats why we didnt see her in the games or mentioned anywere ,she died from cancer ,no one killed her and william tried to experiment with remnant to save her wife , he created those animatronics that kill people to obtain remnant , this is maybe the reason he kills in this series , he truly loves his family since he in fnaf sb he stries to unite the family and bring them back together .
Her having cancer could make sense. And that after she lost custody she didn't see a reason to continue fighting cancer since her main reason for fighting cancer would be for her kids. But like.u said it doesn't matter much how she died we just know that she killed herself
Michael just bulled him because he thinks its stupid that he's afraid of there dad company.
Dude. The guy on the couch was mrs afton now the one in the grave was Crying child dead. And michael was inside the room. Will was in mrs Afton house. When cc( crying child) died be was drunk. But one night golden freedy or cc came to michael room and when michael saw him outside the window he broke the window and went to fredbears. After all fredbears was close to their house. Now we dont know what happened after he left the house. But this didnt really mean anything. It shows that what happened when cc was put together in the golden freedy suit by puppet. But some say that he was put together by will. This doesn't mean that much. What does means important is that when was put together he came towards michael. And he was full of rage. Idk but why nightmare fredbear is scary cuz hes angry. Michael saw him as crying child in his dream. And all the animatronics he let as his nightmares. But one was Mich disturbing than the other ones. His true nightmare fredbear or his dead little brother. While for some nights he had this nightmares. It could have been usual too. You see after his nightmares he was given a job to go work at the afton robotics to fix them. And who gave him this job? William. After he was working William went for taking the souls from the old FNAF 1 animatronics. Their souls were connected to the metals and went for it. Well rest is history. After working at Afton robotics and finding more info bout his mother and sister. Sister location is meant for both reasons. In matpat recent theory it's the place William created thousands of Elizabeth. And one is vannesa the night guard at Mega pizzaplex while the other was Vanny poccesed by william Afton when working on testing Fnaf help wanted with a glitch trap aka william Afton connected to the computers. What is interesting is that canny was poccesed to bring back his father. And with all codings she knew she was an expert in hacking through the pizzaplex. While Vannesa was not experienced with any job. She worked in pizzaplex. The one running the company was Elizabeth. She also wanted to bring back her father too. After knowing that she was also poccesed by will I began to know that everyone except Vannesa(could be not sure) not poccesed by will. By she could had been. You see, if william died then both canny and Vannesa or even elizabeth wouldnt be poccesed. That's what the good ending is for. while another little girls was there in the photo if everyone saw it. It was also Elizabeth but small. These were actually robots. Gregory was also a robot. And he was made as cc. While its unsure that william made thousands of Gregory's. now this is one sister location where many sisters are there, the location of many sisters. While another is that where sister location is the location of Michael's sister.
I thought everyone already knew this
Not game theory and Reddit apparently.
Its raining when Charlie is killed. This means Fred Bare was just vibing for god knows how long. then de clocked, then recloaked. Just because he has camo doesn't mean that gravity stopped working.
Fred bare when he's in the back ground, he is shown as purple.
Shadow Freddy is shown to appeared and disappear.
He's shown to lead people to William follow me.
These are always end in L moments.
He has three toes.
He was in fnaf 4. Showing he's not tied to the building.
In the toy Chica high school years, when Chica is plotting to seduce the puppet she talks about luring them out a window. Then she talks about setting the house on fire. in Ennard vent repair, you set the sister location on fire, and that's under the Affton house. In the black light vent repair, shadow Freddy makes a cameo.
Wait a second, We know in Sister location that he started off tan then green then purple. So nobody is questioning how Afton became purple???
Couldn’t the pile of dirt be where the animatronic is? Like it goes away once William comes home so if Michael shows William, there’ll be nothing there?
I 100% agree on the William is orange. Even at this day, I don't understand why they call him "purple guy" when the thing is literally orange. I mean I know purple guy but how is that guy in the midnight motorist, "purple guy" when he's literally orange.
pizza simulator came out when the large majority of fandom still knew william as purple guy, simple as that lol
Well I agree with the theory of Mike being the runaway kid since I belive mike is BV, but we also know from Charlotte's death date and the bite of 83 date that Charlotte gets killed before the bite, her death being in may 1983 compared to the bite being in fall
I also believe that Elizabeth and Cassidy (yes I belive Cassidy is an Afton) where at Mrs aftons house, becuase in security breach we see that atleast one of the 2 Afton daughters had to be moved around houses many times so that's why they don't appear in the minigames
What if... Midnight motorist is not William, mean the guy is YELLOW now PURPLE. It's all just about some other kid that gets kidnapped and killed by William.
I'm sorry but there are so many issues with this. Getting hung up on the colors is the least important thing in that minigame.
@@siresquawks But the only indicator that it is William is actually the color of the car and that the character has a son. The other minigames show how William lures and kills other victims so that would be keeping up with that.
DMuted made a great video about that that convinced me that way. Have you given it a watch? If so I'd love to hear you debunking his points. This series is so full of topics for endless discussions, haha.
@@PokemonkaDub an interesting take I remember back in the fnaf 6 theory made by matpat was that William was orange because there were two purple guy’s walking around William and Michael
Waaait. She might not be bald. It might be a close tight BLONDE haircut. THE YOUNG AND THE RESTLESS anyone?
What is your avatar thing?
Asking for a friend that is I.
A very proper ostrich
Makes sense..
I thought it was a worm with a beak.
How does something that doesn't exist leave footprints????
Well obviously there’s something real. My point was what Nightmare a Fredbear is, isn’t the physical monster we see but something much simpler.
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Random animatronic: Rock. 🙂
Crying child kept on running off because he was a big fan of fazz bear.
what’s good
Ehh as much as I do like the idea of CC being with Cassidy in Golden Freddy mostly cuz imagine how many conversations that would be I do like CC being Micheal too and the older brother being someone else like I know the Minecraft videos aren't Canon but I could see the idea of William using other kids souls or remnant to revive him heck maybe even using CC's own soul to do it or making a robot that he puts the soul into there's a lot you can do with that idea but to late since it's been in ways confirmed that CC isn't Micheal but just a character without a name or at least not confirmed name
The theory of BV being Mike was never debunked, more or so debunked
@@tomkubus wait who is BV?
What Minecraft videos?
@@Takejiro24 wait you don't know the animations people made of their own timeline?
@@chaoraiser2338 Not the Minecraft ones, no.
Is it possible for Crying Child to be Balloon Boy?
this is completely unrelated but one thing that has always annoyed me, was people saying that william afton keeps changing suits.
and what????? that's always mentioned, they keep saying he dragged himself out of one and rebuilt himself in a different one, what if, now hear me out, it's just a redesign, and it's not relevant to the lore at all?
what if **most** things are irrelevant to the lore??? fucking fnaf lore, man.
If I am not wrong, There's a Easter egg in fnaf 2, everybody knows it, SHADOW Freddy, as he is a copy of Golden Fredboi isn't him ? We can see in the camera, parts and service in a moment, That he has THREE fingers too. It can be him....
I say that in the video. Golden Freddy or shadowy Freddy can work.
I just think Nightmare Fredbear is more what the series is implying.
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At what milestone are you going to start beef with other RUclipsr 😆
ummmm i want to ask you something why woude henry be in william's hous becouse in the minigame he never says anything about wanting to build a scopper and why woude henry want to not make william do something bad to the crying child like i'm not even joking you saying that fellt like you needing to say that it's not michael even if in the minigame it's heavly implyed that it's michael with you know stuff like the man on the chair having the same grey color on his speaking text like michael in fnaf 4 and the man on the chair even wearing a grey shirt like michael in fnaf 4 which is pretty good evidence as well + (this something i sayd in my last comment but i will say it again) just becouse the man on the chair isn't mean to the run away kid (being crying child) deosn't mean it's not michael still you saying that midnight motorist was after the bit is something i disagree on becouse midnight motorist heavly implys that it's michael on the chair and since t.m.o.t.c is wanting to not make william do something bad to c.c. it heavly implys that michael first cared about c.c. but since william has been treating michael badly but william starts liking c.c. more this makes michael dis like him as well which is why he deosn't like c.c. in fnaf 4 so yeah this implys that midnight motorist was before the bit since we know by the fact that michael isn't mean to crying child as well so yeah again i disagree that midnight motorist is before the bit ok good (sorry that the comment is long).
I always thought that it was just William thinking that Michael had a rough day at work (sister location) and that he should let him sit and watch TV at midnight.