This was actually a cut gag I forgot to record. I think it literally was “Or their just someone new” and it would cut right to the outro. I do think this is possible.
I think DLC girl can be theorized as Charlie, since in the poster the girl is in black and white (like the puppet), whereas the rest of the image has colour.
@@siresquawks fnaf needs to move on from the past, for the past... god FIVE YEARS we've been in this transition phase, where we put the old characters away, only for them to come back in a weird way, like afton and baby, you could argue that they've been recycling story details ever since fnaf 4. Elizabeth is just the CC again with (admittedly major) details changed, the fnaf 6 ending was just fnaf 3's ending but with more context etc... I just can't wait until they come up with something (good) that's original, or at the very least come up with a focused narrative, because right now we just have a bunch of loose plot points with no sense of cohesion that makes almost no sense, at this point, the community is making the story and building the world, not the devs. rant over.
I don't think 46 is really helping Afton. She's working with him to some extent, yeah, but some stuff she's implied to do (like manipulating Vanessa and killing the therapists without her knowledge) hint she's not entirely cooperative. Knowing her character, I feel like she's either helping him out of interest for her own goals, or she often acts on impulse because she doesn't care all that much about Afton's plans. She's pretty chaotic. Great video btw!
I mean that doesn’t really scream “impulse” per say. It could be that she’s simply doing it out of necessity since if Vanny kills the therapists, it’ll look suspicious on her. And second, probably because if it’s only Afton talking to her in her head, she could’ve thought she had gone mad and thus went to the therapists in the first place. But in order to cement Afton’s power over her, he sends patient 46 to manipulate her and eliminate anything that might/will get in their way.
Sounds great, prolly one of the most convincing theory so far. It fits almost perfectly and I feel as though your adaptation clears up a lot of the continuity issues brought about by Security Breach and also why the DLC contains a unknown girl we have never seen before and who we assume could have been the child living in the Pizza Plex long before Gregory's arrived.
If we're talkoing about children being kidnapped and brainwashed in SB, I might call yalls attention the warehouse, specifically the parts with children's furniture, popcorn buckets, and screens playing the Sleepy-Time Candy commercials or static. Other arguments can be made for why the decor is so kids themed in an area where no kids should be, especially considering the bts talk about these areas being stripped-down, but kid-sized benches facing screens with over-turned popcorn buckets are a little harder to explain any other way.
I'm about 99% certain the translators had no idea the therapists were talking to two different patients. They used the feminine forms in their language presuming the therapists were always talking to Vanessa, because the English words were gender-neutral.
I feel like the notes could also be from not just one or two kids, but from all the children Vanny had kidnapped before. I mean, there's a lot of seemingly "posessed" Staff Bot heads lying around the whole room... And, well, there's also those other possibly posessed staff bots that actually kill you unlike all the others.
So Vanny kidnapped several kids who only write in 2 maybe 3 styles, that all write the exact same kind of messages and behavior patterns that all line up with Patient 46?
hysterically I actually think they WILL be using the ball pit. Not literally the ball pit itself, but traveling back through memories. Because!! the ruin DLC seems to be adapted from the concept for into madness, and with all the new arcade cabinet lore, and the balloon world cabinet, and a bunch of other things, that the arcade cabinets will be used for some sort of similar purpose. Whoever is speaking through the cabinets and telling the employee what to do could very well be Charlotte with the crush the vile band message being written by her.
and that spirit was talking with someone who "is afton family" so that's why sometimes it seems to be talking to someone else with those kinds of lines ,because it slowly starts to recognize who it is talking with.
Man, your theories are always so good and well presented with really logical and convincing evidence, they're great! Keep it up! I think as baffling and unnecessary as it is, patient 46 being a robot Charlie or somehow possessed by her is really by far the most convincing theory we have about 46's identity atm, there's just way too many things connecting them, like the door's file name and the references to the bullies' arm bands, I find it really hard to believe all of that is coincidence or red herring. Though I disagree with one thing you said in this video, why do you think saying you can't solve fnaf without the books is ridiculous? What's your reasoning for not using the books in your theories? I admit I'm not the most knowledgeable in the fnaf books but I was always under the impression that there is quite a lot of stuff they helped solve or some even that we'd have almost no clue about without them.
Glad you liked the video! I feel like I say this a lot, but I’m not saying you can’t use the books. I’m saying that I think that you can cover a lot of ground without them. And if you look at “how useful they’ve been” It’s honestly overblown. The only two things they have inarguably done is cemented names for Henry and Charlie. William’s name was confirmed with 6 and so was Elizabeth’s. Michael has no book counterpart that reall matches his full character. Every actually important lore beat was revealed in the games, hell use of the books is what lead to a lot of early misconceptions about William and the events of sister location. Not to mention Scott’s said that the novels aren’t meant to fit in with the games just that there may be some similarities. And Fazbear frights serves more to ease arguments and confusion than to literally teach us new information. I definitely agree that 46 is somehow Charlie, like I said in the video. But this fundamentally isn’t how robot kids even work in the books, and no prior game had ever implied or given us context for that making it a massive asspull from a writing standpoint. Charlie it also doesn’t explain the great family concept that well. It could be the case but I’m waiting to see.
I think Charlie being a robot is the only thing that does make sense. The binary showing up in the same image as the scribbles makes it seem that they were done at the same time - a very early stage of development when she is only capable of primitive communication, like scribbles. But binary is highly advanced. At least for a human. Not for a robot though. The puppet, Charlie, was destroyed in the same fire that "destroyed" Afton at the end of Pizzaria Simulator. But what if he found some of her Remnant and put it in a robot. Maybe to steal Henry's daughter. Maybe he thought it was Elizabeth. Actually him thinking it was Elizabeth from ScrapBaby makes even more sense if Gregory is also a robot containing the crying child's Remnant. He's literally trying to rebuild his family.
@@tayloranderson7547we'd honestly be better off if we didn't have to fit in details from the books into litterally everywhere they don't belong. Most of the stories in the books are irrelevant too. The Games really get you way farther than you give them credit for. (As in, most of the way, honestly the only time I'd tell you that you need information from the books is for ruin. Because the mimic reveal just doesn't hit if you have no context for what it is.)
6:13 well, when you google search, do you not occasionally use plural when only intending to use it for one thing? Maybe he searched the first one, didn't find what he was looking for, and changed the search in hopes of it working better. Good theory so far, though. Just wanted to put this out there as an alternative.
I know this is an old video and we've gotten a lot of new info since then, but we DO still have the unsolved questions of the post-it note room and the nightmarionne plushies, plus CharlieDoor staying in the games while "Cassidy" as the princess's name was removed, I think it's possible that this is breadcrumbs so they they can _later on_ introduce a character that's an unfinished CharlieBot who's been watching the whole time. I wouldn't call this a theory so much as a substantiated hunch, though.
wait as well i do think you for sure need the books to solve the new lore nowadays, and it feels a bit unfair to dismiss them so easily now. fuhnaff and gametheory showed just how much security breach is connected to the original novels. also the end joke is funny but the ball pit doesnt time travel and it only goes backwards in memories.
I was riffing on people who only take broad concepts from the books and apply them, however. I also don't agree that Security breach is tied to the original novels. Scott said when those came out that those should not be used as pieces to solve the puzzle of fnaf. There may be similarities, but that's all. I think there is a place for using the collective books in theorizing but it's really overblown right now.
Why are there therapy sessions? Who is funding/arranging/coordinating two characters in the story to go to the same therapy office/center? These characters are not choosing to take themselves to therapy and then happen to end up at the same office; who is telling them to go and why are the sessions being recorded, numbered and kept by someone? Are the tapes scattered around just "cause"? Or did 46 scatter them in places they would be found by someone? Were the tapes meant to be found because they serve as evidence to something?
Based on the fact that the early therapists believe the lies about 46's life, and revealing the truth is what gets a later one killed, it seems like the therapy is meant to help condition Vanessa and 46 into believing they are who Afton wants them to be. We even see this in Vanessa's tapes where she talks about a divorce case with her parents, one of them being Bill (short for William) Vanessa doesn't say much in response, and when she does it's in her brainwashed voice, which reinforces this. The Therapists are unknowingly transforming Vanessa and 46's world view to fit Afton's.
As one of the therapists says "I don't just work with corporations" there's also other lines about how they have access to company chatlogs and how they know the animatronics had been hacked which means Fazbear Entertainment hired the therapists, likely recorded the sessions and kept them no idea why they're spread around the pizzaplex that could just be for gameplay rather than lore
People need to stop trying to link SB characters back to the past. Charlie’s gone, she’s already out of the picture. There’s no need to bring her back. 46 works better as just a brand new character, rather than an incarnation of Charlie that somehow got brought back to life after being dead for years. Charlie doesn’t deserve this treatment; let her rest.
Very interesting points! Here's the snag I have. SB sets up that there are already people going missing, yeah that works. If 46 was kidnapped and brainwashed, that still works. Here's the question I have. If the last therapist found 46's real family, in all likelihood that would mean the therapist connected her as a missing person. Why wouldn't the therapist call the police immediately and confront the child instead?
Here's a thought: Someone wants to rebuild the afton family. The girl in the Ruin DLC is 46 and will take the place of Elizabeth Gregory as Evan And Vanessa/Vanny as, stay with me here, William Afton. 46 is a much better fit for Elizabeth as she is working with Afton, hacking for him and being given golden child treatment. It would also explain why she is given Elizabeth's backstory and all the other stuff you brought up in your theory, and why we are being introduced to a new character in the DLC, little blonde girl. The Vanessa thing I'm a bit iffy on, but it could be something to think about. She is being *directly* controlled and brainwashed by Afton, which has caused this alter-ego of Vanny, who acts very similarly to Afton/Glitchtrap in Help Wanted. This theory has plenty of issues like who is Michael being replaced with, who is the CEO of Fazbear now and why are they allowing (or possibly helping) with this, and a bunch more. Its a weak theory but it is something to think about. Plus, your theory would fit very well if this happens to be where they take the story. Lmk your thoughts on this!!
I Vanessa didn’t say that her dad Bill manipulated her into swinging the court case for divorce custody, and did so in her weird out of it possessed voice, I’d say this theory had potential, but Vanessa already has parallels to Elizabeth also which would be very confusing if two of the kids believed they were Elizabeth, plus 46 having the weird Charlie connections.
The four faces look more like the nightmare scrapbots jumpscare but I think she made the nightmarrione guard bots. Wrote in your nightmares on there to scare Michael off from the location of burntrap
I find that the only way to maintain my continued love and interest in FNAF lore as a franchise is to separate each branch of FNAF content by mediums. The books from Fazbear Frights series are canon only in themselves. Tales from the Pizzaplex are only canon within themselves. The games, etc all compartmentalized. Otherwise the continuity errors completely ruin it for me.
I know that this video is like a month ago, but i want to point out something. On 2:06, There is a drawing of five balloons, with two of them 'erased'. And then there are all those drawings of cakes and three happy children. I think this is a reference to the happiest day, and it means that only three children gets free, and the other two are still here. One of them is Probably Cassidy, obviously. but who is the other one? (also, Englise is not my first language, so there might be some mistakes.)
The issue with the count of 5 is that implies it's not charlie, because the 5 would most likely be the MCI. So what other MCI kid stayed behind? Or alternatively it's Mike, Molten Fred, Charlie, William and Baby from 6 and as the 5 count or something.
I think the 3 post it note is Cassidy, 46 and Afton, the people in 46's soul, and the 4 one is the Afton kids, Cassidy, Elizabeth, mike, and mikes brother, and we see a post it note where a few kids get presents from someone that looks like the puppet but they don't gets a present, paralleling Cassidy, also there are no time traveling ballpits, none in books,games or novels
Well yeah it was a bit because Matpat called the into the pit ballpit a timetraveling one and people will just use anything Matpat says like it's solid proof even if it was an off handed comment or joke. Why cassidy? Where's the proof Cassidy is in 46? That's not a critique if you have evidence, I'm all ears.
@@siresquawks ye, when it came out it made sense since it was revealed in a later book that it wasn't time travel The main connections are using your theory to see that Cassidy is the post it note room kid, since I believe your theory of the post it note kid being patient 46, so I'll list the evidence for Cassidy being post it note kid They are in a group of 7 kids (connects to the mci kids in ucn a secure if dreadbear) They are both female They know about the bite happening and elizbaeth getting clawed, (probably because they were with Elizabeth in sl, because that's the only way they'd know, so therefore it can only be the MCI kids) A post it note showing something that looks like the puppet give gifts to a group of kids but not her, like in the minigame give gifts give life, the only one not to get a gift is Cassidy The happiest day is for them, and using the books somnophobia, and the frights epilouges aswell as them being a golden freddy spirit I'm pretty confident in saying that's Cassidy, she also says happiest day is her party in the logbook There's a post it note and a shrine which show her being drawn as a girl and having girls shoes, aswell as liking chica, and Cassidy has some sort of connection to chica as seen in process quest when chica is watching/protecting her The Afton table has 5 people, one resembling the crying child, older brother, Elizabeth, Mrs Afton, there's one that we don't know about but it's likely that it's william, there's a 6th slit where the post it note would be and a chair a bit of to the side, implying post it note kid is a 6th Afton, and in fnaf 6 we see there's 4 relevant aftons (if you think the poster behind lefty is about the aftons, I believe its about the fnaf 6 enemy's) one being Mike, one being Elizabeth, one being William, a d one being golden Freddy, becuase fnaf world states the BV won't possess a suit after the bite and followervicitm/mikevicitm being implied alot, I am convinced BV isn't in golden Freddy, so it must be anothe person in golden Freddy, the only 2 candidates are Andrew and Cassidy, Andrew possesses William directly until he possesses fetch, golden Freddy and some other robots after ucn, so therefore the fredbear can only be Cassidy so Cassidy is an Afton, and post it note kid is a female Afton Those are most of my points, there is more evdience but I don't want to make this toong so if you want more details just ask me
and all the child like clothing and the family put back together as robots is an attempt at calling that spirit ,and also an attempt at possibly freeing it through rituals that possibly did not work because that spirit is either not who the person thinks it is ,or has more unfinished buisness than just needind their family altogether for their birthday.
Am I the only one who realized that the final therapist wasn’t very good, saying “you had a great family” isn’t very good, because on the outside they might be good, but on the inside, they might suck
I dont think patient 46 is the post it note person at all. The evidence for it being ‘they like sweets’ and ‘they talk to themselves’ are flimsy pieces of evidence at best and It just doesnt make sense, its pretty clear through the notes that the post it note person is stuck in the room theyre in. Notes saying ‘this is my home’ would imply they pretty much live in the post it note room, and the hello and goodbye notes would also imply that someome is visiting them in the room, patient 46 clearly operates outside the pizzeria and is intentionally manipulating the robots to be more aggressive, its unlikely she would get stuck there and even if she did, why would she consider it her home? Also why would As much as i hate this idea and really wish it wasnt true, i think that the room contains charlie bot and gregbot and maybe someone else. The post it note line ‘all for me’ clearly points towards the crying child and many of the other notes as well at the door suggest charlie is in there. The line ‘i feel you are broken’ as well as the 3 star ending ice-cream being a golden freddy pop with the front of the head being bitten, are way too specific for gregory not to be connected to the crying child in any way. The post it not person/ people are definitely robots, glitchtrap has possessed several people and no reference to them talking in binary is ever given, if they were trying to get you to make that connection they wouldve mentioned that jeremy was talking in binary or something. Also them being a hacker wouldnt give them any reason to talk in binary. The person being a robot is the only real logical explanation for the post it note. As to who patient 46 is, i think they are a either a girl possessed by the glitchtrap virus or a character we havent seen because theres no other explanation that is even close to making sense, its obviously not Gregory for so many reasons outside of just the languages calling patient 46 a ‘she). Baby doesnt fit personality wise and neither does any other character outside of afton. It might be possible that patient 46, visits the charliebot and gregbot as they are trapped in there, which would actually explain the post it notes very well, the three people being patient charlie and greg and the fourth one in one of the final post it notes being vannessa/ vanny. Its possible but i dont think patient 46 is the one writing the notes.
Yeah that's the leading interpretation, but it really didn't matter for the video what it exactly said. It was the fact that it responds to why is I? that I wanted to highlight.
What complicates this theory though is the"all for me" post it. What would it mean? It clearly connects to the crying child (a gift box implies a party, the crying child is the only character in the series with a party that even remotely matters), but then the door is called CharlieDoor? Also, why do the post its include a close up shot of a freddy (and not glamrock freddy because of the missing detail) and the post-it room contain a lunch table which is probably simbolising the afton family? ALSO Also, why the hell would afton choose to brainwash a kid to make them charlie of all people? Charlotte has never been loyal to afton and there are a ton of other vengeful spirits you could use from that blob(cough cough *elizabeth* )
Yet they also draw the security puppet arm bands, they say “all my friends” when drawing 7 faces, which ads up for Charlie (5Mci, Michael or maybe herself if she’s in the list, Bite Victim) but not for Elizabeth who only at max had 3 friends who betrayed her. Charlie dies from being outdoors which lines up with 46 liking to be in doors, where as Elizabeth was trapped in a undefined dark bunker for a while and wanted to get out, that trait even lines up with Vanessa (going to need a separate video on that nonsense). Charlie also has a connection to original Freddy as seen in Fnaf 2’s between night cutscenes, as opposed to Elizabeth who only had Funtime Freddy. I don’t fucking know why Charlie has so many connections to 46 as I say in the video, but she has more concrete connections than any other prior character. I don’t no why nor do I want that to be where 46 goes, but that’s what’s being implied.
Unlikely trying to brainwash a random kid to make them Charlie but rather trying to brainwash Charlie to make her an Afton Happiest Day implies the puppet is also a part of a party that remotely matters essentially the same party but better
The fact that time traveling ballpit bit even for the slightest fraction of a second made sense to my brain, either means this franchise has gone too far or I'm just incredibly stupid.
i know im a huge cynic because when you said "46 is just a brainwashed girl working for afton" i thought "yeah checks out, that's basically what they've done with every other major female character in this franchise, make them another afton pawn". not bringing this up as some kind of major point or anything, im just bitter about baby/vanny/etc being wasted antagonist potential ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
“There’s a good five minutes of me making fun of robot kids” Honestly I can’t wait for that video, the more the series try to lean into that the more asspull and stupid the series plot has become.
With Ruin out now, I believe in 15-46 Gregory is wearing the Mask. Possibly talking to someone in AR. It's in the name Security Breach. The fancy AR bunny Security was Breached and Cassie Ruined it. Lol
Hmmmm I'm mixed on it I still think 46 is just vanny the alternate william persona of Vanessa and that the lines that say otherwise are metaphors taken literaly but this is one of the few theroys I actually don't mind believeing in though you say otherwise as I am also a lover of the afton cult theroy so I do believe glitchtrap possessing multiple people Really we just need to wait and see
To be fair I made this before the book was even really announced, and even then the general consensus I've seen from those around for the leaked live reading said that SB gets details "wrong". Of course I'm waiting to read it myself, just because I want to see the big reveal as written since that's more fun.
I just had the idea that Charlie and Cassidy reincarnate into a girl, Cassie, with 2 personalities in communication. No evidence but it supports multiple theories at once AND it could be cool. Maybe.
Depends how young the child is. Are we just going to ignore Elizabeth manipulating Afton to let her get close to baby despite his warnings. By holding it over his head.
this is just pure speculation but is it possibly that if this is a ouija board the person trying to contact them may be a "top" spirit I.E. the spiritwraith making contact with a spirit it shares form with that can not outwardly express itself....or perhaps the person is looking for a certain persons spirit and this one turned out to be a bad spirit to contact which is why we don't see anything good coming of it as the spirit lashed out later on after fully awakening.
While there are some connections, I think there are more connections elsewhere. I feel like the binary goes somewhat unused here, and all the connections to 46 seem pointless.
@@siresquawks I think due to FNAF world the afterlife may or may not be digital in it's nature. With how it seems Afton's soul was able to live on as glitchtrap and how spirits seems capable of interacting with the world on an electrical and digital level there seems to be some level of overlap between the digital and the spiritual
@@titan7789 Could be. Honestly I'm avoiding talking about Ruin until we get more concrete info like a name for the teaser girl, if we're playing as her (it looks like it, but people thought we were going to play as Vanessa before her name was revealed).
@@siresquawks another interesting,but useless fact: the colors of the bracelets match the colors of the lights in FNAF5 when we try to shock Circus Baby.
I liked someone else's theory a little better. In the first screen of notes, there's a very clearly written message. "This is my home" and "Leave" Sure you can say to yourself that something is your home now... but why write the word "Leave" by itself, it just doesn't add up at all. Not to mention that the entire page is filled with barely legible notes. It doesn't fit in at all to me... unless you assume that it isn't written by the same person. There's reason to believe that there's two people in the post-it notes room, at least initially, though the second page also has a note of cake that says "share" (reminds me of charlie bringing cake to a table for dead kids? no?). Another thing, there's two types of utensils being used to write the notes. One that looks clear, and one that looks almost sprayed on? maybe a crayon, idk. Either way, it's weird how the clearly legible text is all in crayon, while the shakier post-its are using the sharper utensil (pencil? pen?). All except for the first two notes, "This is my home" and "Leave" follow this pattern. Almost like the first person let the second person use their utensil, and they chose to write with something else. The second page shows us that at the very least, a security guard is seen by the person making the post-it notes. That's gotta be Vanessa right? It's not bunny related so it works even if you assume they're not the same. But would Vanessa not report a child in a basement? Remember, when you get caught by Vanessa, she doesn't kill you outright. She brings you to her office and *Vanny* waits outside for you. It's Vanny that's out to kill you. Unless this isn't happening in the basement? That's an indication they've gotten out of the room? Possibly the reason why there's staff bots down there? To keep them inside? Vanny writing "In your dreams" on them, taunting them about not being able to escape, explains this, maybe? - Unless... the security guard is NOT Vanessa. they don't exactly have a pony tail, do they? It could very well be Michael, who Charlie would have plenty of memories of, as they interacted with them once or twice in their time as the puppet. The first page also has an interesting note... middle left of the page. Four... things, with arrows between them. Almost like stages... stages of life? Like Charlie bots? Or maybe even Elizabeth bots? There is the whole "Afton family" dining scene above the room filled with post-its. Bottom left of the first page... Someone theorised that that is scrap baby? I can kinda see it, but nothing definitive to prove anything. About that... The Afton dining scene could have also been filled with post-its right? But it wasn't? IIRC the dining scene didn't have post-its over it at all? Almost like a separate area? Like there's two sides to a room? Like two kids sharing a room together? Idk I'm just putting it out there. Second page. dead center. Ice cream cone. That is very clearly connected to Baby. This makes it seem like the scrap baby thing does make sense, just not sure what the connection is? But it seems clear to me that baby HAS to be connected to these somehow. There is of course the whole "all for me" note which is likely a reference to the FNAF guidebook or whatever, indicating that crying child is in that room as "the party was for me" as well as the close-up of Fredbear, which is the last thing CC sees before getting gnawed.
As I say in the video: the post it’s constantly talk to themselves in the same writing styles. Leave makes sense because they respond to an unseen person likely Vanny. All of the rest of the handwriting has the same personality quirks and traits, and even this early writing does.
@@siresquawks lemme get this straight. They speak in binary at first, develop a handwriting along the way of learning english, and bond with this murderous bunny person so much that (according to your theory) they start to appreciate them (as indicated by the hello-smiley post-it and the goodbye-sad post-it), only for them to develop such a good hand writing that they tell them to leave? And that it is their home now? Yeah, mass murderer psycho bunny will probably convey that message to hypnotising child-killer murder rabbit. They'll leave em alone. Or, are you saying that they somehow - while learning english and developing a hand writing of their own, mind you - learned to write perfectly legible statements? Only for the handwriting to then deteriorate, and later they recouperate some of that loss of progression? It just doesn't add up that way
@@CaptainRickey That's not how it goes. Their first crude messages are "this is my home" and "Leave" but their final messages are things like "Hello :)" "Goodbye :(" "Home home home" which are more coherent and legible than any others. That's progression, not the weird summersault order you made up.
@@siresquawks you keep doing this. You're hung up on one part of my message and completely ignore the other part. I didn't do a somersault. I explained to you how your logic for this theory makes no sense whichever way you try to slice it. How do you explain the handwriting being spot on and eligible in the beginning, and somehow then deteriorating afterwards, but then somehow again regaining some of the ability to write? Also, as I said before in my message. It doesn't make sense the person writing would be telling Vanny/Afton to go away. That's not exactly the type of thing they'd just accept like that. Especially Afton isn't exactly the type to be acting nice after being told off.
Thing is when it comes to pronounes in other languages the feminine is most often used. For example you will see Spanish guys reffing to themselves and others as chica which is the feminine rather than chico which is the masculine version. So languages that use both masculine and feminine pronounes almost always use feminine as default so using it as evidence of a gender is unreliable. Ella is used for everything means her. Ella es bien mucho gusto. She is fine which is feminine but mucho gusto both masculine showing it's reffing to a boy. Ella as bien muchas gracias she is fine but mucha rather than mucho is feminine showing it's reffing to a girl. But it still starts with Ella/she as El/he is not used because it's more used as a replacement for the word (the) el Dorado, the city of gold. Just an example
Ehh not really. Male pronouns are also used as substitutes in languages for gender neutral terms. If EVERY localization is the same, then it’s that gender. Plus this doesn’t counteract all the other evidence pieces. Spanish would be one thing but Italian, German, Russian, and Chinese?
If they keep bringing back the characters from 6 then that means Henry's plan was worthless. At most the only character that should return is William. Even then he would of been better off ending in help wanted
They're a Robot even if they're not a kid. ~ I wonder if it might be more than 2. ~~ Ruin DLC? Anyways... THAT PART OF THE THEORY: ~~~ Charlie Door. Time traveling Charlie would be so cool.
Please prove any of this. Part of the joke in the book segment was that the ball pit only shows past events and doesn't literally time travel. Also why did you write the comment like I just know what you're responding to? Time stamp or something.
@@siresquawks Yeah I write comments like that as I talk while things are going on and it's sort of a code kinda for myself. Also I don't know why you're saying prove when we theorizing and I think most of the community agrees we waiting on Ruin to see if anything will be confirmed or denied. Within lore like this that's kinda what you have to do sometimes.
I love SB' music, but it overlaps with your voice. Iirc RyeToast also use this music, but it's less distracting. I'm probably just have problems hearing your voice...
I am certain our post-it bandit is the Mimic. It speaks in binary first, then slowly starts to learn like a human child. It grows up in a recreation of the Afton House, and if Glitchtrap's trying to remake Afton, what better way than to use a robot who can become him? He's out of kids and family to manipulate into doing it.
You're sure they are not Funtime Foxy?
ever since the funtime foxy video sire squaks was replaced by funtime foxy and is turning attention away
Pretty sure 46 is phone guy
Everyone knows 46 is ness from Undertale.
I alwaus thought patient 46 was burntrap.
What if 46 is the "ruins DLC" girl, it might be the connection to this totally new character
This was actually a cut gag I forgot to record. I think it literally was “Or their just someone new” and it would cut right to the outro. I do think this is possible.
I think DLC girl can be theorized as Charlie, since in the poster the girl is in black and white (like the puppet), whereas the rest of the image has colour.
@@diamondinmyeye6160 i theorize that the dlc girl is michael afton bc they both have hair
@@neneenenejrkerre1828 lol
@@siresquawks fnaf needs to move on from the past, for the past... god FIVE YEARS we've been in this transition phase, where we put the old characters away, only for them to come back in a weird way, like afton and baby, you could argue that they've been recycling story details ever since fnaf 4.
Elizabeth is just the CC again with (admittedly major) details changed, the fnaf 6 ending was just fnaf 3's ending but with more context etc...
I just can't wait until they come up with something (good) that's original, or at the very least come up with a focused narrative, because right now we just have a bunch of loose plot points with no sense of cohesion that makes almost no sense, at this point, the community is making the story and building the world, not the devs.
rant over.
I don't think 46 is really helping Afton. She's working with him to some extent, yeah, but some stuff she's implied to do (like manipulating Vanessa and killing the therapists without her knowledge) hint she's not entirely cooperative. Knowing her character, I feel like she's either helping him out of interest for her own goals, or she often acts on impulse because she doesn't care all that much about Afton's plans. She's pretty chaotic.
Great video btw!
I’ll keep that idea in mind
I mean that doesn’t really scream “impulse” per say. It could be that she’s simply doing it out of necessity since if Vanny kills the therapists, it’ll look suspicious on her. And second, probably because if it’s only Afton talking to her in her head, she could’ve thought she had gone mad and thus went to the therapists in the first place. But in order to cement Afton’s power over her, he sends patient 46 to manipulate her and eliminate anything that might/will get in their way.
@@siresquawksin retrospective I think it was definitely the Mimmick!
Sounds great, prolly one of the most convincing theory so far. It fits almost perfectly and I feel as though your adaptation clears up a lot of the continuity issues brought about by Security Breach and also why the DLC contains a unknown girl we have never seen before and who we assume could have been the child living in the Pizza Plex long before Gregory's arrived.
If we're talkoing about children being kidnapped and brainwashed in SB, I might call yalls attention the warehouse, specifically the parts with children's furniture, popcorn buckets, and screens playing the Sleepy-Time Candy commercials or static. Other arguments can be made for why the decor is so kids themed in an area where no kids should be, especially considering the bts talk about these areas being stripped-down, but kid-sized benches facing screens with over-turned popcorn buckets are a little harder to explain any other way.
I'm about 99% certain the translators had no idea the therapists were talking to two different patients. They used the feminine forms in their language presuming the therapists were always talking to Vanessa, because the English words were gender-neutral.
thats a REALLY good case for patient 46 being a possible candidate down there
I feel like the notes could also be from not just one or two kids, but from all the children Vanny had kidnapped before. I mean, there's a lot of seemingly "posessed" Staff Bot heads lying around the whole room... And, well, there's also those other possibly posessed staff bots that actually kill you unlike all the others.
So Vanny kidnapped several kids who only write in 2 maybe 3 styles, that all write the exact same kind of messages and behavior patterns that all line up with Patient 46?
This is my personal favorite theory since i just think that vanny and afton letting a random child go rampage is funny
This world must have terrible grief counselors if every time a kid, your solution is to build a robot replica and pretend nothing changed
10:17 idk why but the image of Charlie with text that just says “Girl” over her is really funny to me
"Charlie is using the time-traveling ball pit to kick Afton in the shins"
That is so amusing, I think I'm going to make that an entire AU.
this is really interesting. the fnaf community is really being held up by people like you, good work
hysterically I actually think they WILL be using the ball pit. Not literally the ball pit itself, but traveling back through memories. Because!! the ruin DLC seems to be adapted from the concept for into madness, and with all the new arcade cabinet lore, and the balloon world cabinet, and a bunch of other things, that the arcade cabinets will be used for some sort of similar purpose. Whoever is speaking through the cabinets and telling the employee what to do could very well be Charlotte with the crush the vile band message being written by her.
Maybe. I do think there is something the arcades are building too
and that spirit was talking with someone who "is afton family" so that's why sometimes it seems to be talking to someone else with those kinds of lines ,because it slowly starts to recognize who it is talking with.
Man, your theories are always so good and well presented with really logical and convincing evidence, they're great! Keep it up!
I think as baffling and unnecessary as it is, patient 46 being a robot Charlie or somehow possessed by her is really by far the most convincing theory we have about 46's identity atm, there's just way too many things connecting them, like the door's file name and the references to the bullies' arm bands, I find it really hard to believe all of that is coincidence or red herring. Though I disagree with one thing you said in this video, why do you think saying you can't solve fnaf without the books is ridiculous? What's your reasoning for not using the books in your theories? I admit I'm not the most knowledgeable in the fnaf books but I was always under the impression that there is quite a lot of stuff they helped solve or some even that we'd have almost no clue about without them.
Glad you liked the video!
I feel like I say this a lot, but I’m not saying you can’t use the books. I’m saying that I think that you can cover a lot of ground without them.
And if you look at “how useful they’ve been” It’s honestly overblown. The only two things they have inarguably done is cemented names for Henry and Charlie.
William’s name was confirmed with 6 and so was Elizabeth’s. Michael has no book counterpart that reall matches his full character.
Every actually important lore beat was revealed in the games, hell use of the books is what lead to a lot of early misconceptions about William and the events of sister location.
Not to mention Scott’s said that the novels aren’t meant to fit in with the games just that there may be some similarities. And Fazbear frights serves more to ease arguments and confusion than to literally teach us new information.
I definitely agree that 46 is somehow Charlie, like I said in the video. But this fundamentally isn’t how robot kids even work in the books, and no prior game had ever implied or given us context for that making it a massive asspull from a writing standpoint. Charlie it also doesn’t explain the great family concept that well. It could be the case but I’m waiting to see.
I think Charlie being a robot is the only thing that does make sense. The binary showing up in the same image as the scribbles makes it seem that they were done at the same time - a very early stage of development when she is only capable of primitive communication, like scribbles. But binary is highly advanced. At least for a human. Not for a robot though.
The puppet, Charlie, was destroyed in the same fire that "destroyed" Afton at the end of Pizzaria Simulator. But what if he found some of her Remnant and put it in a robot. Maybe to steal Henry's daughter. Maybe he thought it was Elizabeth.
Actually him thinking it was Elizabeth from ScrapBaby makes even more sense if Gregory is also a robot containing the crying child's Remnant. He's literally trying to rebuild his family.
Wed have almost no clue about without them.
@@tayloranderson7547we'd honestly be better off if we didn't have to fit in details from the books into litterally everywhere they don't belong. Most of the stories in the books are irrelevant too. The Games really get you way farther than you give them credit for. (As in, most of the way, honestly the only time I'd tell you that you need information from the books is for ruin. Because the mimic reveal just doesn't hit if you have no context for what it is.)
6:13 well, when you google search, do you not occasionally use plural when only intending to use it for one thing? Maybe he searched the first one, didn't find what he was looking for, and changed the search in hopes of it working better.
Good theory so far, though. Just wanted to put this out there as an alternative.
After reading through the books and seeing Ruin, I guess maybe the localizations were wrong about 46?
Not trying to spoil it in the comments tho.
I know this is an old video and we've gotten a lot of new info since then, but we DO still have the unsolved questions of the post-it note room and the nightmarionne plushies, plus CharlieDoor staying in the games while "Cassidy" as the princess's name was removed, I think it's possible that this is breadcrumbs so they they can _later on_ introduce a character that's an unfinished CharlieBot who's been watching the whole time. I wouldn't call this a theory so much as a substantiated hunch, though.
wait as well i do think you for sure need the books to solve the new lore nowadays, and it feels a bit unfair to dismiss them so easily now. fuhnaff and gametheory showed just how much security breach is connected to the original novels. also the end joke is funny but the ball pit doesnt time travel and it only goes backwards in memories.
I was riffing on people who only take broad concepts from the books and apply them, however. I also don't agree that Security breach is tied to the original novels. Scott said when those came out that those should not be used as pieces to solve the puzzle of fnaf. There may be similarities, but that's all. I think there is a place for using the collective books in theorizing but it's really overblown right now.
Ah yes, bribing with treats, a classic technique.
Robots are computers. Computers want cookies. She wants to share cookies. Its an robit.
Literally any other food gives more weight.
This is better logic than some stuff I've seen.
Why are there therapy sessions? Who is funding/arranging/coordinating two characters in the story to go to the same therapy office/center? These characters are not choosing to take themselves to therapy and then happen to end up at the same office; who is telling them to go and why are the sessions being recorded, numbered and kept by someone? Are the tapes scattered around just "cause"? Or did 46 scatter them in places they would be found by someone? Were the tapes meant to be found because they serve as evidence to something?
Based on the fact that the early therapists believe the lies about 46's life, and revealing the truth is what gets a later one killed, it seems like the therapy is meant to help condition Vanessa and 46 into believing they are who Afton wants them to be. We even see this in Vanessa's tapes where she talks about a divorce case with her parents, one of them being Bill (short for William) Vanessa doesn't say much in response, and when she does it's in her brainwashed voice, which reinforces this. The Therapists are unknowingly transforming Vanessa and 46's world view to fit Afton's.
As one of the therapists says "I don't just work with corporations" there's also other lines about how they have access to company chatlogs and how they know the animatronics had been hacked
which means Fazbear Entertainment hired the therapists, likely recorded the sessions and kept them
no idea why they're spread around the pizzaplex that could just be for gameplay rather than lore
Hi this is a great video
People need to stop trying to link SB characters back to the past. Charlie’s gone, she’s already out of the picture. There’s no need to bring her back. 46 works better as just a brand new character, rather than an incarnation of Charlie that somehow got brought back to life after being dead for years. Charlie doesn’t deserve this treatment; let her rest.
Bro 46 is
Among us
going crazy over theory afton's logic.
"hm never had a second daughter, i think the first kid i murdered is the closest to that yeah"
I mean it was a close friend’s daughter which is what I meant.
Very interesting points! Here's the snag I have. SB sets up that there are already people going missing, yeah that works. If 46 was kidnapped and brainwashed, that still works. Here's the question I have. If the last therapist found 46's real family, in all likelihood that would mean the therapist connected her as a missing person. Why wouldn't the therapist call the police immediately and confront the child instead?
To be honest I think that’s why she dies right after, and she’s the last therapist implying she stopped seeing her therapists after.
Here's a thought: Someone wants to rebuild the afton family.
The girl in the Ruin DLC is 46 and will take the place of Elizabeth
Gregory as Evan
And Vanessa/Vanny as, stay with me here, William Afton.
46 is a much better fit for Elizabeth as she is working with Afton, hacking for him and being given golden child treatment. It would also explain why she is given Elizabeth's backstory and all the other stuff you brought up in your theory, and why we are being introduced to a new character in the DLC, little blonde girl.
The Vanessa thing I'm a bit iffy on, but it could be something to think about. She is being *directly* controlled and brainwashed by Afton, which has caused this alter-ego of Vanny, who acts very similarly to Afton/Glitchtrap in Help Wanted.
This theory has plenty of issues like who is Michael being replaced with, who is the CEO of Fazbear now and why are they allowing (or possibly helping) with this, and a bunch more.
Its a weak theory but it is something to think about. Plus, your theory would fit very well if this happens to be where they take the story.
Lmk your thoughts on this!!
I Vanessa didn’t say that her dad Bill manipulated her into swinging the court case for divorce custody, and did so in her weird out of it possessed voice, I’d say this theory had potential, but Vanessa already has parallels to Elizabeth also which would be very confusing if two of the kids believed they were Elizabeth, plus 46 having the weird Charlie connections.
ure so underrated fr
The four faces look more like the nightmare scrapbots jumpscare but I think she made the nightmarrione guard bots. Wrote in your nightmares on there to scare Michael off from the location of burntrap
Probably my favorite theory bout this topic
and that spirit slowly became more capable of contact and verbalizing itself beyond a few words as it began to connect with them more.
I find that the only way to maintain my continued love and interest in FNAF lore as a franchise is to separate each branch of FNAF content by mediums. The books from Fazbear Frights series are canon only in themselves. Tales from the Pizzaplex are only canon within themselves. The games, etc all compartmentalized. Otherwise the continuity errors completely ruin it for me.
could the person have held a scenace and allowed a spirit to talk to them through the post it notes?
Could be the person is Charlie who is speaking to Crying Child as they are setting up Happiest Day.
@@Takejiro24 saw a theory video about what you said and I agree with you
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@@Takejiro24 yep
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I know that this video is like a month ago, but i want to point out something. On 2:06, There is a drawing of five balloons, with two of them 'erased'. And then there are all those drawings of cakes and three happy children. I think this is a reference to the happiest day, and it means that only three children gets free, and the other two are still here. One of them is Probably Cassidy, obviously. but who is the other one? (also, Englise is not my first language, so there might be some mistakes.)
The issue with the count of 5 is that implies it's not charlie, because the 5 would most likely be the MCI. So what other MCI kid stayed behind?
Or alternatively it's Mike, Molten Fred, Charlie, William and Baby from 6 and as the 5 count or something.
I think the 3 post it note is Cassidy, 46 and Afton, the people in 46's soul, and the 4 one is the Afton kids, Cassidy, Elizabeth, mike, and mikes brother, and we see a post it note where a few kids get presents from someone that looks like the puppet but they don't gets a present, paralleling Cassidy, also there are no time traveling ballpits, none in books,games or novels
Well yeah it was a bit because Matpat called the into the pit ballpit a timetraveling one and people will just use anything Matpat says like it's solid proof even if it was an off handed comment or joke.
Why cassidy? Where's the proof Cassidy is in 46? That's not a critique if you have evidence, I'm all ears.
@@siresquawks ye, when it came out it made sense since it was revealed in a later book that it wasn't time travel
The main connections are using your theory to see that Cassidy is the post it note room kid, since I believe your theory of the post it note kid being patient 46, so I'll list the evidence for Cassidy being post it note kid
They are in a group of 7 kids (connects to the mci kids in ucn a secure if dreadbear)
They are both female
They know about the bite happening and elizbaeth getting clawed, (probably because they were with Elizabeth in sl, because that's the only way they'd know, so therefore it can only be the MCI kids)
A post it note showing something that looks like the puppet give gifts to a group of kids but not her, like in the minigame give gifts give life, the only one not to get a gift is Cassidy
The happiest day is for them, and using the books somnophobia, and the frights epilouges aswell as them being a golden freddy spirit I'm pretty confident in saying that's Cassidy, she also says happiest day is her party in the logbook
There's a post it note and a shrine which show her being drawn as a girl and having girls shoes, aswell as liking chica, and Cassidy has some sort of connection to chica as seen in process quest when chica is watching/protecting her
The Afton table has 5 people, one resembling the crying child, older brother, Elizabeth, Mrs Afton, there's one that we don't know about but it's likely that it's william, there's a 6th slit where the post it note would be and a chair a bit of to the side, implying post it note kid is a 6th Afton, and in fnaf 6 we see there's 4 relevant aftons (if you think the poster behind lefty is about the aftons, I believe its about the fnaf 6 enemy's) one being Mike, one being Elizabeth, one being William, a d one being golden Freddy, becuase fnaf world states the BV won't possess a suit after the bite and followervicitm/mikevicitm being implied alot, I am convinced BV isn't in golden Freddy, so it must be anothe person in golden Freddy, the only 2 candidates are Andrew and Cassidy, Andrew possesses William directly until he possesses fetch, golden Freddy and some other robots after ucn, so therefore the fredbear can only be Cassidy so Cassidy is an Afton, and post it note kid is a female Afton
Those are most of my points, there is more evdience but I don't want to make this toong so if you want more details just ask me
3:08 that kinda looks like it says “you are afton family”
Yeah but what about Browboy
Fuck you got me there
It's so simple it can't possibly be right this is FNAF were talking about
I am that person, that ball pit idea is brilliant and tru
and all the child like clothing and the family put back together as robots is an attempt at calling that spirit ,and also an attempt at possibly freeing it through rituals that possibly did not work because that spirit is either not who the person thinks it is ,or has more unfinished buisness than just needind their family altogether for their birthday.
Am I the only one who realized that the final therapist wasn’t very good, saying “you had a great family” isn’t very good, because on the outside they might be good, but on the inside, they might suck
Ballon boy is behind all of this he is the true mastermind he be livin gangsta's paradise
some of the words like "hello" and goodbye" "yes" and "no" seem like a ouija board.
That’s interesting. I can see that.
i hope this cannon cause it would be funny
I dont think patient 46 is the post it note person at all. The evidence for it being ‘they like sweets’ and ‘they talk to themselves’ are flimsy pieces of evidence at best and It just doesnt make sense, its pretty clear through the notes that the post it note person is stuck in the room theyre in. Notes saying ‘this is my home’ would imply they pretty much live in the post it note room, and the hello and goodbye notes would also imply that someome is visiting them in the room, patient 46 clearly operates outside the pizzeria and is intentionally manipulating the robots to be more aggressive, its unlikely she would get stuck there and even if she did, why would she consider it her home? Also why would As much as i hate this idea and really wish it wasnt true, i think that the room contains charlie bot and gregbot and maybe someone else. The post it note line ‘all for me’ clearly points towards the crying child and many of the other notes as well at the door suggest charlie is in there. The line ‘i feel you are broken’ as well as the 3 star ending ice-cream being a golden freddy pop with the front of the head being bitten, are way too specific for gregory not to be connected to the crying child in any way. The post it not person/ people are definitely robots, glitchtrap has possessed several people and no reference to them talking in binary is ever given, if they were trying to get you to make that connection they wouldve mentioned that jeremy was talking in binary or something. Also them being a hacker wouldnt give them any reason to talk in binary. The person being a robot is the only real logical explanation for the post it note.
As to who patient 46 is, i think they are a either a girl possessed by the glitchtrap virus or a character we havent seen because theres no other explanation that is even close to making sense, its obviously not Gregory for so many reasons outside of just the languages calling patient 46 a ‘she). Baby doesnt fit personality wise and neither does any other character outside of afton.
It might be possible that patient 46, visits the charliebot and gregbot as they are trapped in there, which would actually explain the post it notes very well, the three people being patient charlie and greg and the fourth one in one of the final post it notes being vannessa/ vanny. Its possible but i dont think patient 46 is the one writing the notes.
Which would actually make ruin DLC girl patient 46, which may even possibly explain some of the lore of this game
What if burntrap survived by jumping in to the time travelling ball pit
3:06 it think it says “you are afton family”
Yeah that's the leading interpretation, but it really didn't matter for the video what it exactly said. It was the fact that it responds to why is I? that I wanted to highlight.
is post it kid the girl in the DLC teaser? am i the only one i feel this is possible
It’s possible we just need to wait and see though
What complicates this theory though is the"all for me" post it. What would it mean? It clearly connects to the crying child (a gift box implies a party, the crying child is the only character in the series with a party that even remotely matters), but then the door is called CharlieDoor? Also, why do the post its include a close up shot of a freddy (and not glamrock freddy because of the missing detail) and the post-it room contain a lunch table which is probably simbolising the afton family? ALSO Also, why the hell would afton choose to brainwash a kid to make them charlie of all people? Charlotte has never been loyal to afton and there are a ton of other vengeful spirits you could use from that blob(cough cough *elizabeth* )
Yet they also draw the security puppet arm bands, they say “all my friends” when drawing 7 faces, which ads up for Charlie (5Mci, Michael or maybe herself if she’s in the list, Bite Victim) but not for Elizabeth who only at max had 3 friends who betrayed her. Charlie dies from being outdoors which lines up with 46 liking to be in doors, where as Elizabeth was trapped in a undefined dark bunker for a while and wanted to get out, that trait even lines up with Vanessa (going to need a separate video on that nonsense). Charlie also has a connection to original Freddy as seen in Fnaf 2’s between night cutscenes, as opposed to Elizabeth who only had Funtime Freddy.
I don’t fucking know why Charlie has so many connections to 46 as I say in the video, but she has more concrete connections than any other prior character.
I don’t no why nor do I want that to be where 46 goes, but that’s what’s being implied.
Unlikely trying to brainwash a random kid to make them Charlie but rather trying to brainwash Charlie to make her an Afton
Happiest Day implies the puppet is also a part of a party that remotely matters
essentially the same party but better
3:09 “you are afton family?”
That’s most likely, but i felt it was more important that they were being told they belonged to a family in general.
when I heard "afton doesn't wanna lose his minion" (8:04) I immediately pictured afton with a despicable me minion
He wants the moon
The fact that time traveling ballpit bit even for the slightest fraction of a second made sense to my brain, either means this franchise has gone too far or I'm just incredibly stupid.
yes
i know im a huge cynic because when you said "46 is just a brainwashed girl working for afton" i thought "yeah checks out, that's basically what they've done with every other major female character in this franchise, make them another afton pawn". not bringing this up as some kind of major point or anything, im just bitter about baby/vanny/etc being wasted antagonist potential ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Didn't the ballpit only let you see the memories of the past through the agony the pit absorbed?
Yeah, that’s part of the bit. I’m poking a bit of fun at theories that change the context or over generalize premises from the books for proof.
UNDERRATED!
“There’s a good five minutes of me making fun of robot kids”
Honestly I can’t wait for that video, the more the series try to lean into that the more asspull and stupid the series plot has become.
I think that you should use the books as the last resort
With Ruin out now, I believe in 15-46 Gregory is wearing the Mask. Possibly talking to someone in AR. It's in the name Security Breach. The fancy AR bunny Security was Breached and Cassie Ruined it. Lol
Hmmmm I'm mixed on it I still think 46 is just vanny the alternate william persona of Vanessa and that the lines that say otherwise are metaphors taken literaly but this is one of the few theroys I actually don't mind believeing in though you say otherwise as I am also a lover of the afton cult theroy so I do believe glitchtrap possessing multiple people
Really we just need to wait and see
Well I guess I was wrong to but honestly I’m ok with it since they seem to be going in the afton cult rout and that’s awesome
Well it’s been confirmed that patient 46 is Gregory so at least somthing has been solved by TFTPP
To be fair I made this before the book was even really announced, and even then the general consensus I've seen from those around for the leaked live reading said that SB gets details "wrong".
Of course I'm waiting to read it myself, just because I want to see the big reveal as written since that's more fun.
@@siresquawks Sorry I know I just wanted to write it.
And I don’t know since the TFTPP is likey a alternete universe
what's good
Its not charlie, its the springbaby from bunny call in the flesh. Duh.
Ah of course.
@@siresquawks if you have any doubt, please know that is a joke 😂
I just had the idea that Charlie and Cassidy reincarnate into a girl, Cassie, with 2 personalities in communication. No evidence but it supports multiple theories at once AND it could be cool. Maybe.
Children are great manipulators what are you talking about?
Depends how young the child is.
Are we just going to ignore Elizabeth manipulating Afton to let her get close to baby despite his warnings. By holding it over his head.
I never said they couldn’t or weren’t just that it was worth noting that they were.
@@siresquawks Fair enough. Just not ruling it out
this is just pure speculation but is it possibly that if this is a ouija board the person trying to contact them may be a "top" spirit I.E. the spiritwraith making contact with a spirit it shares form with that can not outwardly express itself....or perhaps the person is looking for a certain persons spirit and this one turned out to be a bad spirit to contact which is why we don't see anything good coming of it as the spirit lashed out later on after fully awakening.
While there are some connections, I think there are more connections elsewhere. I feel like the binary goes somewhat unused here, and all the connections to 46 seem pointless.
@@siresquawks I think due to FNAF world the afterlife may or may not be digital in it's nature. With how it seems Afton's soul was able to live on as glitchtrap and how spirits seems capable of interacting with the world on an electrical and digital level there seems to be some level of overlap between the digital and the spiritual
What if the 3 depicted in the photos are Gregory, 46 and vanny or something like that?
But why Gregory? Why not Afton who’s in control of 46 and Vanny?
Why does she draw the DLC girl(two times,If you count the scribbles she did at the start)though...?
or it's her and she just saw her reflection in the mirror or something?
@@titan7789 Could be. Honestly I'm avoiding talking about Ruin until we get more concrete info like a name for the teaser girl, if we're playing as her (it looks like it, but people thought we were going to play as Vanessa before her name was revealed).
@@siresquawks another interesting,but useless fact: the colors of the bracelets match the colors of the lights in FNAF5 when we try to shock Circus Baby.
@@siresquawks just realized,46 is afraid of the outside and windows,why and how does she draw a bird?
Has anyone ever told you that you sound like Mr.Ballen? It’s uncanny.
Mr. Ballen?
I liked someone else's theory a little better. In the first screen of notes, there's a very clearly written message. "This is my home" and "Leave"
Sure you can say to yourself that something is your home now... but why write the word "Leave" by itself, it just doesn't add up at all. Not to mention that the entire page is filled with barely legible notes. It doesn't fit in at all to me... unless you assume that it isn't written by the same person. There's reason to believe that there's two people in the post-it notes room, at least initially, though the second page also has a note of cake that says "share" (reminds me of charlie bringing cake to a table for dead kids? no?). Another thing, there's two types of utensils being used to write the notes. One that looks clear, and one that looks almost sprayed on? maybe a crayon, idk. Either way, it's weird how the clearly legible text is all in crayon, while the shakier post-its are using the sharper utensil (pencil? pen?). All except for the first two notes, "This is my home" and "Leave" follow this pattern. Almost like the first person let the second person use their utensil, and they chose to write with something else.
The second page shows us that at the very least, a security guard is seen by the person making the post-it notes. That's gotta be Vanessa right? It's not bunny related so it works even if you assume they're not the same. But would Vanessa not report a child in a basement? Remember, when you get caught by Vanessa, she doesn't kill you outright. She brings you to her office and *Vanny* waits outside for you. It's Vanny that's out to kill you. Unless this isn't happening in the basement? That's an indication they've gotten out of the room? Possibly the reason why there's staff bots down there? To keep them inside? Vanny writing "In your dreams" on them, taunting them about not being able to escape, explains this, maybe?
- Unless... the security guard is NOT Vanessa. they don't exactly have a pony tail, do they? It could very well be Michael, who Charlie would have plenty of memories of, as they interacted with them once or twice in their time as the puppet.
The first page also has an interesting note... middle left of the page. Four... things, with arrows between them. Almost like stages... stages of life? Like Charlie bots? Or maybe even Elizabeth bots? There is the whole "Afton family" dining scene above the room filled with post-its.
Bottom left of the first page... Someone theorised that that is scrap baby? I can kinda see it, but nothing definitive to prove anything.
About that... The Afton dining scene could have also been filled with post-its right? But it wasn't? IIRC the dining scene didn't have post-its over it at all? Almost like a separate area? Like there's two sides to a room? Like two kids sharing a room together? Idk I'm just putting it out there.
Second page. dead center. Ice cream cone. That is very clearly connected to Baby. This makes it seem like the scrap baby thing does make sense, just not sure what the connection is? But it seems clear to me that baby HAS to be connected to these somehow.
There is of course the whole "all for me" note which is likely a reference to the FNAF guidebook or whatever, indicating that crying child is in that room as "the party was for me" as well as the close-up of Fredbear, which is the last thing CC sees before getting gnawed.
As I say in the video: the post it’s constantly talk to themselves in the same writing styles. Leave makes sense because they respond to an unseen person likely Vanny. All of the rest of the handwriting has the same personality quirks and traits, and even this early writing does.
@@siresquawks lemme get this straight. They speak in binary at first, develop a handwriting along the way of learning english, and bond with this murderous bunny person so much that (according to your theory) they start to appreciate them (as indicated by the hello-smiley post-it and the goodbye-sad post-it), only for them to develop such a good hand writing that they tell them to leave? And that it is their home now?
Yeah, mass murderer psycho bunny will probably convey that message to hypnotising child-killer murder rabbit. They'll leave em alone.
Or, are you saying that they somehow - while learning english and developing a hand writing of their own, mind you - learned to write perfectly legible statements? Only for the handwriting to then deteriorate, and later they recouperate some of that loss of progression?
It just doesn't add up that way
@@CaptainRickey That's not how it goes. Their first crude messages are "this is my home" and "Leave" but their final messages are things like "Hello :)" "Goodbye :(" "Home home home" which are more coherent and legible than any others. That's progression, not the weird summersault order you made up.
@@siresquawks you keep doing this. You're hung up on one part of my message and completely ignore the other part. I didn't do a somersault. I explained to you how your logic for this theory makes no sense whichever way you try to slice it. How do you explain the handwriting being spot on and eligible in the beginning, and somehow then deteriorating afterwards, but then somehow again regaining some of the ability to write?
Also, as I said before in my message. It doesn't make sense the person writing would be telling Vanny/Afton to go away. That's not exactly the type of thing they'd just accept like that. Especially Afton isn't exactly the type to be acting nice after being told off.
Thing is when it comes to pronounes in other languages the feminine is most often used. For example you will see Spanish guys reffing to themselves and others as chica which is the feminine rather than chico which is the masculine version. So languages that use both masculine and feminine pronounes almost always use feminine as default so using it as evidence of a gender is unreliable.
Ella is used for everything means her. Ella es bien mucho gusto. She is fine which is feminine but mucho gusto both masculine showing it's reffing to a boy. Ella as bien muchas gracias she is fine but mucha rather than mucho is feminine showing it's reffing to a girl. But it still starts with Ella/she as El/he is not used because it's more used as a replacement for the word (the) el Dorado, the city of gold. Just an example
Ehh not really. Male pronouns are also used as substitutes in languages for gender neutral terms. If EVERY localization is the same, then it’s that gender. Plus this doesn’t counteract all the other evidence pieces.
Spanish would be one thing but Italian, German, Russian, and Chinese?
@@siresquawks absolutely I've not seen every language worldwide translation just wanted to point out the situation 😁
If they keep bringing back the characters from 6 then that means Henry's plan was worthless.
At most the only character that should return is William. Even then he would of been better off ending in help wanted
They're a Robot even if they're not a kid.
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I wonder if it might be more than 2.
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Ruin DLC?
Anyways...
THAT PART OF THE THEORY:
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Charlie Door.
Time traveling Charlie would be so cool.
Please prove any of this.
Part of the joke in the book segment was that the ball pit only shows past events and doesn't literally time travel.
Also why did you write the comment like I just know what you're responding to? Time stamp or something.
@@siresquawks Yeah I write comments like that as I talk while things are going on and it's sort of a code kinda for myself.
Also I don't know why you're saying prove when we theorizing and I think most of the community agrees we waiting on Ruin to see if anything will be confirmed or denied.
Within lore like this that's kinda what you have to do sometimes.
she is totally cassie
Interesting :)
i mean, 46 is probably caseoh r sumthing idfk
this is a certified good theory
I love SB' music, but it overlaps with your voice.
Iirc RyeToast also use this music, but it's less distracting.
I'm probably just have problems hearing your voice...
Audio’s my main weakness in general right now, I’m trying to find the right balance
Sorry I can’t stop laughing 😂 😂🤣🤣🤣
Laughing as in the video's bad or that there's something funny in the video?
I am certain our post-it bandit is the Mimic. It speaks in binary first, then slowly starts to learn like a human child. It grows up in a recreation of the Afton House, and if Glitchtrap's trying to remake Afton, what better way than to use a robot who can become him? He's out of kids and family to manipulate into doing it.
I stopped watching the video when he said Evan. It's the crying child. Not Evan.
Filler name. Also technically the only official name he’s been refers to is the bite victim.
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