Honestly, the mimic is the best thing that couldve happen to fnaf. Ignoring that it feels like a highschooler using the bathroom to skip class (cant disprove is wasnt the original reason, and is plausible), i give the mimic a 8/10. Now, all we need is a game where the animatronics adapt to your playing style rendering patterns useless.
We don't need the Mimic what We need is someone else to Take over the role of the Main Villain instead of just having Afton keep coming back every game!
@@lockskelington314 you actually brought up something I've been thinking about for a while. I was also on the grandpappy afton slander before I realized it was just security breach. Fnaf 6 was a stellar ending to the physical embodiment of William. UCN was his punishment and was done really well, he wasn't back as much as he was just paying his dues. Help Wanted you could make the argument he should've stayed dead, but if glitchtrap was just one and done and Vanessa got the torch no one would bat an eye. Also Glitchtrap gives some great insight of early lore in what getting kidnapped by Afton was like, it is a game on recreation. SB is the only game in which Afton had no reason to be alive. It could and should've been Vanessa.
@@quesproductions7170 I actually think Vanny might be the Next Afton. Theres a Theory that Vanny and Vanessa are two different People. The Fire Ending shows us so and the Vanny on the Roof is a Robot that Vanny Made to Take over her running the Pizza Plex while she did Aftons Bidding. See ID's Fantasy Video on it. At the Princess Quest Ending we take control of Pizza Plex back from Afton effectivly booting him out of the System. Then Vanny Dropped her Mask and Ran to him getting trapped in the Process after the elevator down broke. She's now trying to get someone to try and free her using a Recording/spliced together call that Gregory tried sending to call for help. That's why we see the Rabbit in the Trailer with 5 fingers its Vanny reaching out to us with her Mangled form possibly fused with animatronic maybe even put inside Glitchtrap as she held his dying body when his portion of the Pizza Plex was Cut off from receiving any more power.
@@lockskelington314 I like that theory but it depends on 2 things. Which ending of Security breach is cannon, and if Ruin is cannon. There's a 1 in six chance that that theory is correct, but even still there's some issues with it. 1. If there is a robot Vanessa that would mean robot people are in play. And if Vanessa is the stand in for Elizabeth then oh boy. Now we have robot kids, the fourth closet being being literally literal in the games. Afton children back together? Robot Gregory? How fnaf gives info even if the fire escape ending was real and there are two Vanessas it would take three years just figure out the implications of why. I just like to think (and hope) Vanessa got corrupted into Vanny and is now crazy. Crazy copy cat story line seems fitting.
@@quesproductions7170 I think Princess Quest IS Canon because it had 3 stars and The Pizza Plex wasn't Completely Burnt down. The Place just looks like it fell into Disrepair like it would have since Vanesa was the only one running it. Also Gregory isn't actually a Robot but rather a Kid that was Being Brainwashed by Vanny from a VR headset and was using him to try and Find Where Cassidy's soul is in the Pizza plex mini games thus why GGY is on the Top score of Every Arcade Machine. Thats why when Vanny gets close our Vision goes Hazy its the effect of the Brainwashings making you come back under her control. I like the Idea that Vanny is the next Villian cause all we see is her abandon the Mask never what happens to her. From the Ruin Trailer we can see that the mask doesn't have great visibility so she could be running to Burntrap on to have herself be trapped inside of and Animatronic body!
the more mimic theories i see the more i really hope that its canon to the games. so many interesting possibilities that are better than just "somehow afton returned"
I wonder if the facial recognition tech on the FNAF 2 animatronics helped it distinguish "who" to mimic. Maybe there were dudes in costume or just older animatronics that "trained" the toy animatronics how to act and interact with customers. But when a bunny started killing kids.....
I really don't like the Mimic myself but if it turns out to be true, I'll accept it. I just don't think it advances the story in any way if it is true because the Villain we has before is still there but he is a robot now that replicates what our original Villain would have done and looks exactly like him which doesn't really changes the story in any significant way.
I think the two intersting things Mimic Does is: - We're now playing with a FNAF-spin on the concept of a copycat killer, which while it means we have so far hit a lot of the same beats still changes up what we're doing - Once the Mimic, if true, is fully revealed, we can now deviate from the Afton track if the Mimic story evolves in a different, new direction
Just wanted to say that I always enjoy hearing your theories and discussions. You have a really good hold on the franchise and are able to find ways lore can fit neatly. Honest and without exaggeration, I think you deserve as much recognition as the bigger names in the fnaf community.
The one thing that feels off about this is how the toy animatronics are specifically violent towards adults and not children. If they're mimicking William's actions wouldn't it be the other way around?
Except they aren't exclusively VIOLENT towards just adults, they're noted as staring. Phoneguy says don't hurt ANYBODY implying everyone including the kids were at risk.
@@siresquawks yeaaaah but.... they are very specific to note that they act fine with kids but not with adults. It is actually an interesting point I haven't thought about. Even tho phone guy says "anybody" that doesn't mean he has seen them being also aggressive towards children. It would just be weird to specify "adults" if as far as he knows them attacking kids is still a possibility. But it doesn't mean he knows for sure they attack kids.
it’s possible that the spirits are influencing these actions by shifting the murderous intent away from fellow kids, and more towards adults like their killer
The reason Phone Guy tells us to make sure the robots don't hurt anybody is because they had been acting aggressive towards adults recently. This is mentioned earlier in the game.
@@siresquawks "Anybody" in this context means "Make sure they don't hurt people at all", or more appropriately, "Make sure they hurt no one". That doesn't mean they're a threat to any person or to every person, it just means that Jeremy's job is to make sure they're a threat to nobody.
In The Silver Eyes, William did use a yellow bear suit when he took Michael in that version of the MCI. I think that's the only case of William using a suit that wasn't Spring Bonnie, though.
Something else I think is relevant to these debates: the original Mimic wears costumes to kill people in the story The Mimic, even though it wouldn't have witnessed anything at the pizzerias and presumably wouldn't be connected to any kind of network (is it ever said anywhere that _any_ of the Mimics were a hive, or is that a thing the fandom has assumed?). So I don't know that that part is even from Afton at all, it might just be from watching David and Edwin get dressed each day. Similarly, it doesn't lure people the way Afton did, if anything its behavior seems more reminiscent of a boss radioing an employee to the back to me. I'm also inclined to think Pizza Party is an intentional level, not a Glitchtrap thing. After all, you can play it even without collecting any tapes, and the credits scroll + HandUnit's speech fit perfectly for how you'd expect a "real" ending of the game to go. --- The biggest problem with _any_ "Mimic saw the murders" theory for me is the timeline. The Mimic story (or at least the first half of it) is roughly five years after "the early 70s", making it fall sometime from 1975 to 1980 (if we give it a little wiggle room since it's early in the year and the company would have been founded a bit later in). But then, I did recently make a post suggesting a lot more happened between the halves than we think, in which case the second part could very well be years later and the story is just set up very misleadingly. --- Something I think people overlook is that there were two different Mimic lines, Mimic Model 1 and Mimic Model 2. I've kind of wondered whether _both_ Endo-01 and Endo-02 are Mimics. After all, each model _does_ fit any suit of that generation... This does require both a retcon of the designs (which you may be able to do with the indie games excuse) and Tales being a separate continuity where Edwin is taking over part of Henry's job (which I am very happy to accept) Either way I generally think it's unlikely though, because the other endos in the epilogues match with Endo-01 iirc. Perhaps the upgraded Withereds are Mimic Model 1 and the Toys are Mimic Model 2? They're similar enough Kelly can't tell which the one in the epilogues is, after all. --- In The Silver Eyes, William did wear Fredbear to lure Michael, but used Spring Bonnie to lure Susie. So he may have used both in at least some versions of events, but it also doesn't matter much. --- On Funtime Foxy's hook: If you look closely, you'll notice both of Mangle's hands are _right_ hands. It may be that once kids starting taking him apart, an employee replaced her hook with a hand from a spare suit to avoid lawsuits about them hurting themselves. (Though FNaF World and merch all have the hook on the right, which makes Mangle having _any_ right hands weird.) --- Feel like there was something else I wanted to add, but now I've forgotten it... Oh well.
It would also explain the Endo leaving Charlie's music box when the Puppet does, and I think if Mangle is in the Blob it could affect it, too. Plus the fact that the Mimic being in FNAF 2 also makes sense for copying Micheal Afton as Fritz and Jeremy in the emails and stuff, and why it seems ruin has a conflict between Afton's influence on the Mimic and Charlie's influence (and probably other kids and events compiling over the years). If the Endo 02's for the OG and maybe Toy crew were infected with the kids remnant and meted into the Fun times, it might explain the erratic behavior on top of the already murderous programming, and might be why the Blob exists as it does. If Funtime Freddy's head was used as a blueprint for the equivalent of the Tree, a lot of the stuff with the incidents and the mimic software would also merge to make the Blob erratic and violent in so many ways, even if the remnant would be gone, the program might still exist. Maybe that's why it would attack Gregory without Freddy, it has killing intent from mimicking the DCI and the Funtime program combined, on top of possible remaining agony and rage from all the tragedy before it. The base Mimic would have direction because it wasn't likely as touched by every other event having only the DCI and a bit of MCI and might have very little contact with anything else until Help Wanted, but the Blob would have very little if any direction due to so many instances and the pain of times long passed clogging it's program at once, from Elizabeth and Ennard and the mixing of remnant to the many years of chaotic autonomy alongside the Funtime programs and the agony of controlled shocks and burning. Plus having absorbed parts of the displays in the museum would make the number of infected parts increase. The Mimic is Burntrap, but another thing with the mimic program alongside a bit of every other Fazbear tragedy is the Blob, and perhaps both are a fight between what was mimicked from the children victims, predominantly Charlie, and William.
I think this is one of the theories if not the one I hope most for canonicity. - It fits more than well with what we already have known and it gives relevancy to overlooked moments in the earlier titles. Wonderful nice theory, and dare I say, it sounds perfect. Cheers for another great theory, Sire!
Tbh. As much as I dislike afton being back. I kinda prefer him over the mimic. Like, the mimic goes to sci-fi while afton being back still keeps the supernatural roots. Or you know. Could have gotten rid of both plot devices and make vanny the main villian like they were going to back during the teasers and trailers. A woman being possessed by what's left of an old serial killer from the 80s (which is honestly an 80s horror movie trope. It would have fit so perfectly if they just stuck to that.)
The story and game became too ambitious so Vanny was pushed to the side, since the Mimic endo can wear suits to fit etc, I think he most likely wore the Scraptrap suit since it reassembled Afton the most and Vanessa/Vanny did the rest, Afton coming back in whatever way is too outlandish while having the Mimic carry on his legacy seems way better than having rinky dink Afton back when he's already served his purpose
The Mimic was already happening during Help Wanted, it was just brought to light as of recently, it was already intended to rise eventually even with Vanny on the side, as much as I find Vanny to be goofy character....I already said the story and game became too ambitious so she got the short end of the stick
@@aubergineman3205 I don't know why you're investigating me so hard but all I'm saying is that they were going too far out with the story and and trying to optimize the game weeks before release etc, and when I say ambitious I'm more so talkin about the priorities within the game, characters etc
I think this take explains a big remaining mystery with the storyline, that being that we don’t know what the Mimic did to get the project shut down. We can figure it sees Afton kill and that results in it becoming Glitchtrap decades later, but we know there has to be some immediate fall out. The Bite of 87 is the most infamous event where the animatronics themselves are going haywire. The toys being tied to the mimics also could explain both of their visual connections to the Glamrocks. This point is irrelevant to the main theory but FNAF3 does retroactively explain why Springbonnie wasn’t the suit in FNAF2: he was sealed behind a wall immediately after the MCI. See the Tapes Thats why when William comes back however many years later in Follow Me, the suit is still there (which itself is an analogy for the MCI, they both end with Springbonnie getting stuck inside a wall). This is also why FNAF2 implies the yellow suit is Golden Freddy, because he only starts appearing on Night 6 after Phone Guy mentions the suit, or why there’s the “1987” Golden Freddy easter egg in FNAF1. It wasn’t a joke like everyone seems to think, it was a teaser for the next game. Novels William used GF to kill Brooks, which itself is already weird, but it shows that he doesn’t mind using a different suit.
I don't think William Afton worn Spingtrap or any golden suit in the Save Them minigame. He and the Mimic saw Springtrap roaming around in fnaf2. The Mimic did nothing. William shut it down with his own tools to save his own life and immediately shut down other roaming animatronics. Remember, Fun with Plushtrap is created by William Afton. He portrays himself as a vulnerable child, keeping Springtrap at bay, and shutting the animatronic down at the right time.
Another thing that's possible, the mimic could have seen the murders of 1985 from the time traveling ballpit story, and since it's at least 40 years old, the other things could have just been from randomly seeing things like kids playing hide and seek
A small problem with the theory is, why would the mimic remake the mci instead of DCI? And how would he know what it looks like, hand unit says that that part of the game was never added or intended to be in the game, or made at all, it was made by the mimic, so how would it know and why would it be important to the mimic? Also fnaf vr came out mid 2019, while tales started being made November or December 2019, so they weren't being made at the same time
Maybe that ending is how the actual game itself ends, ie. the developers made that ending. Then Glitchtrap replaced the model that's supposed to be there, ie. Springbonnie, for whatever reason
If i had a nickel for everytime the FNAF community got a free "it was x all along" i would have.... *Illusion Disks, Robot Humans, Charliebot (specifically, even if the character in question isn't Charlie) and now... The Mimic* 4! Which isn't a lot, but it's weird it happened so many times
I really like this theory. Especially since other than introducing the puppet and some of the original basic lore in the 8-bit minigames, Fnaf 2's actual events are largely completely irrelevant. Like, the dead kids are so irrelevant they don't even show up in the books for sake of streamlining. Jeremy Fitzgerald and the Bite of 87 is pretty irrelevant. It'd be nice for some of that stuff to actually matter to the lore.
You make a pretty good case for the Mimic seeing the FNaF 2 killings. Originally I was of the opinion it saw the MCI but this idea is just a lot more interesting cuz it repurposes an essentially irrelevant plot point and irrelevant characters. My main question regarding this then would be: how do the Toy Animatronics work with this information? Would they be possessed and under the corrupted mimic programming at the same time?
i personally believe the toy animatronics are controlled by the puppet. fnaf 4 shows the toys being played with by a girl. they are on strings, meaning they are controlled. and since they have the posessed eyes, that is why i believe the puppet controls them. i would say the toys are posessed, but fnaf 4 made me think otherwise. and puppet is a strong spirit so... plus the kids killed in the new and improved freddy fazbear's pizza were not found. they were not stuffed. they were killed and kidnapped. maybe taken to the afton robotics laboratory and probably had their remnant injected into them. who knows what william did with them? and for the birthday... i believe that after william did the new killings and kidnappings, the toys went berserk and attacked staff. meaning charlie was panicing. it especially fits with the puppet cause when puppet became lefty, she was extremely twitchy and dangerous. but they avoid hurting kids. the toys avoid hurting kids. only staff and adults. puppet sees herself as a savior...but in reality... she kinda just made things worse.
@@hudsonthejojo2825 that's what i think since fuhnaff's theory was absolutely ridiculous. merging the books with the games's timeline. "the mimic is baby", "we see the mimic in fnaf world as "mendo" cause the m stands for mimic", etc. all of it struck me as a massive reach and just trying way too hard and looking into stuff too close. i dont believe the mimic theory. so my beliefs are other more simple explenations. i mean scott even said the toys on strings in fnaf 4 were actually an important detail. so heah, im hard pressed in believing they are controlled and not a mimic.
5:16 I thought the animatronics went crazy because they saw Afton in the yellow suit and want to make he doesn't kill anyone else (remember they're possessed)
Just one thing I'm confused on, isn't Scotty finally done with FNAF because of the donations he's made, he's just occasionally popping in to make sure that the games don't betray the fandom. Isn't Steel Wool Studios and everyone else in charge now?
While I personally don't fully believe the Mimic is in the games (I need more concrete proof), these are perfectly valid explanations as to how they can exist within the games. Out of all the recent theories the community has come up with, the Mimic is legitimately the best. The problem with stitchline and MoltenMCI is that they undermine the previous lore. Stitchline brings William back to life for no reason just to kill him again, alongside retconning Cassidy and adding a 6th missing child, meanwhile MoltenMCI more or less retcons the importance of happiest day by instead having the souls be freed in FNaF 6. Meanwhile we don't need to get into how Charliebots, Elizabethbots and Gregbot just has no proof in the mainline games. The Mimic fits relatively cleanly in the timeline and since Security Breach just has no concrete lore, it can fit right in.
@@friskycalibri2293 henry literally said in his insanity speech that they are in the fnaf 6 building and the only animatronic they could be in is molten freddy, in the novels which literally explained what remnant is and explained how nightmares work, molten freddy is the main 4 melted together and also part of their soul was in funtimes, plus one candy cadet story talks about children being sewn together into one body, if that doesn't confirm it then i don't know what
@@ikaiju-eu9wn No it isn't and Henry didn't say anything. He said that the MCI were "Trapped souls in prisons of _my_ making", HIS making, the Funtimes were William's creation. If he was talking about the MCI being molten into the Funtimes, he would have said "Trapped souls in prisons of _his_ making". Plus, the Candy Cadet Stories, as Squire said in his video talking about MCI, are about 5 innocent souls being stitched together by a _good_ person, and it's a bad thing that makes them stitch them together. Unless you're implying William is a secret hero in the FNaF lore, connecting Candy Cadet's stories to him doesn't make sense. It makes more sense that Henry melted the animatronics and put them into Lefty, or that he used the animatronics to make the Rockstars than it is to say they're Molten Freddy.
the only problem i see with endo-02 being the mimic is that in fnaf 2 it explicitly says that the animatronics treat KIDS well, but are agressive towards adults. if the mimics are mimicking the dci, then wouldn't they be attacking kids MORE than adults? you could say that it is a retcon, but it is a very BIG retcon for the series since it would at least seem to contradict prior events
This is sort of a minor misconception, or we’ll it’s not stated the way people think. Phone guy says “with adults they just stare” and later after the incident says “make sure they don’t hurt anybody”.
@@siresquawks In the same phone call in which he says "with adults they just stare", he says "they interact with the kids just fine." you could say that after the incident they seem to be agressive to ANYONE, and that can't really be disproven. anyways, it is weird that this one instance of seeing someone hurting other people would lead them all to hurt people, since they have presumably seen good behavior until then, at least from staff. but it is a normal license for a game to take, so it can be forgiven. i think it IS indisputable that this is a retcon, though, and that they were initially meant to have been tampered with or posessed
There is 2 possiblity that how Mimic can debut. 1.As Charlie/Baby Virus theory. (Fuh Naff theory) İts good sides 1.İts explains why Glitchtrap is so manuplative like Circus baby. 2.İts explains why there is so many Nightmarione symbolism in the SB. 3.İts explains why Henry did not took care of it like the rest,since he thought it was in Scrap Baby. 4.İts makes the villian someone we know. And adds it more depth. 5.İts also is a paralel with combination of Elenore and mimic story line. 6.İts makes it "Not just Ai". 7.İts totally organic to lore,and not feels out of nowhere 8.This is also make the Virus more symbiotic. Since this means it will act diffrent per host. This is why Vany and Baby(Elizabeth) has diffrences,but both still beign manuplative. The bad sides 1.When it actually try to mimic Afton? Since Circus Baby hates him. 2.İts needs a soft retcon. Since this means org Baby is created by Henry much earlier than 1983 bite and Charlies death. 2.Skeleton theory (your theory) Good sides 1.İts explains why it tries to replicate Afton. 2.İts totally adds up. 3.Mimic probably absorbed Kids and Aftons agony,this is why it looks like that. 4.İt can fit to any point in the timeline very easly. 5.İts totaly organic. 6.İts a paralel to Mimic story line. Bad Sides 1.This means Mimic has no significant personality. İts basically smart ver of Blob. 2. Apperances of the chracters can be mean nofthing sometimes. Mostly when its comes to significant chracter like Elizabeth.This is means there is a possiblty that it was the org endo-skeletons that withnessed missing child incident. Than its parts later used for Fnaf 2 skeletons. Which can be make an argument that it was the org skeleton models that we never saw them directly. 3.Why Henry did not dealt with them? If what you said them beign Endo-2 models,than Henry must also try to found the remains like he did to fnaf 1 animatronics by using it on Rockstars. And since we know he did not use fnaf 2 robots on Rockstars.
Honestly I like this idea just because it puts Possessed toys into the ground, never really cared for that theory. Also like how you alternate between mangles genders nice touch.
This is a very interesting connection. It makes sense- which saddens me just a little. If what you have presented has any weight to the canon then even the older parts of the story are being retroactively more sci-fi like the present. I enjoy the new sci-fi elements, but there is a lost charm to that original ghost story feeling.
Burntrap has parts from 2 different animatronics, the first thats noticable is the FNAF 4 animatronic hands along with MAYBE the feet because i cant fully tell. While the arms, legs and maybe torso are Glamrock animatronic parts
4:38 correction, He did wear fredbear to lure michael brooks well that doesn’t mean he killed any other kid with fredbear it’s possible he used it at one point in the games
I think this theory makes sense, but there's a little thing that bothers me. If the fnaf 2 endos started mimicking Afton, wouldn't they start murdering all of the kids during the parties? if that did happen, how could Fazbear's Entertainment have rebuilt their new location in fnaf 1? because they supposedly only closed the second one because of some more kids being missing and a robot biting a guy's head almost killing him, which is why they could reopen later because those incidents weren't relatively that bad. But if the animatronics started literally doing carnage during the parties, that would make Fazbear's Entertainment close immediately to never reopen again. Also, the main problem I have with the mimic being Afton is that that would imply Glitchtrap is an ordinary virus, that has nothing to do with souls. If that's the case, how could he possess Vanessa?
To be honest that’s a plot hole regardless. We literally see the bodies of Afton’s victims all around the building and they’re barely scheduled for one more day, but it’s a prequel so the first game HAS to happen somehow. Phoneguy says “make sure they don’t hurt anybody” so this really just is a fact of the story. The animatronics try to hurt people publicly and they get scrapped and the company moves on… somehow. That’s a plot point regardless of my theory being true or not.
@@siresquawks Phone Guy's dialogue heavily implies that the bodies weren't found until the investigations were underway, suggesting William hid them after the minigame.
I mean, Phone guy did state that someone (possibly William) tampered with their facial recognition systems. He doesn't state when it happened, but it's possibly after the DCI/Save Them. This was probably what caused them to become aggressive towards the staff/adults except the children. I think it's because of the missing children. They're going after their killer who IS an adult. They don't remember what their killer looks like, but they know they ARE an adult. In TSE, the OGs were trying to protect Jason; they thought that Charlie and her friends were going to harm him. (I watched the TSE: Graphic Novel Dub on YT where Lamar states it, though I'm not sure if it's in the original novel.) I'm skeptical about the implications. Hopefully, this won't be the case. To me, I just see Afton/Glitchtrap using the Mimic as a sort of vessel into the real world, not actually _being_ the Mimic itself. I think this would make much more sense.
@@not_irlon18 Phone Guy just guessed that someone tampered with the facial recognition systems as an attempt to explain why they're acting weird towards adults. We, as the audience, know he's wrong, we see the story play out and we know that they're possessed by dead children. That is the reason they're aggressive. It's just like the explanation in FNAF 1 that the animatronics think you're a naked endoskeleton and that's why they attack. Yes, that explanation is in the original novel. The Storyteller shows that the Mimic isn't just an endoskeleton. It's also an AI program with paranormal capabilities. The same AI program responsible for corrupting the Glamrock characters. There's going to be a whole story about it haunting someone after they play a VR game and meet Mimic in it. It's definitely the same entity as Glitchtrap.
@@siresquawks I guess, but what I mean is that the animatronics don't act the way the mimic story really says they should. They aren't immediately violent, they just have certain instances were they attack, they don't seem to be mimicking anything in my opinion because if they would, they wouldn't stop hurting people. But they do stop. Which would imply the issue is more like a glitch in the system or some sort of possession. Also, I would like you to also talk about the virus-possession plot hole of AftonMimic that I mentioned.
This would also explain how the Mimic Program got into Help Wanted without making a brand new unseen animatronic; if the parts of the Toys and Withereds were scanned into the game, of course it would bring the Mimic program with them
I love this theory and is causing me to completely reexamine everything mimic related. I do have a minor question, in this video you said the mimic was a hive mind and I’m curious where we are told that? Could you elaborate, I’d truly appreciate it.
13:15 I heard a theory that the other endo head on Mangle was for a pirate themed Foxy while the main head on the Mangle is for some sort of love interest (proposed by Dawko too)
Whether people like the mimic or not, i think is a much better idea than bringing back willian in SB, pretty sure NOBODY wanted that, the mimic may not be the most creative new antagonist, but i'll take it
So im not sure exactly how to run though it in an efficient manner, though it doesnt really matter that much, but theres a strong arguement that the spring bonnie suit got sealed in the safe room after the mci, and during fnaf 2 william used the golden freddy suit for the dci, and then later reopened the saferoom sometime before follow me. I dont knoww how heavily i belive this interpretation of events, but it does work for a rough outline.
@@siresquawks I'm guessing it wasn't sealed away actually, dunno how, maybe the workers took it, but couldn't dare to touch the SpringBonnie suit, due to it being the suit the killer used?Or maybe Henry took it before the sealing(for whatever reason) or William took it out beforehand(and couldn't take the Springbonnie out because if he did, he would be an even more suspect than he already is, I guess?)and I mean, we don't see GF the previously sealed room in FM(and considering the fact that we can temper with him in FNAF2, I think the suit basically has to be physical here)
Something that I'd like to point out about Burntrap's design that I noticed the other day is that he has Springtrap's endo torso and upper arm sections, but all other parts are from the Glamrock endo design (except the hands).
Thank you for being one of the only people I've seen who uses various alternating pronouns for Toy Foxy (as the Gods intended). You're a real one for that! Incredible video, as always. ❤
I didn't know the mimics could work so far back in the context of FNAF 2. Makes me wonder how much of the FNAF lore is either planned out of just came up with on the fly.
It doesn't seem planned out. It seems like a pure coincidence turning into pure perfection. Maybe Scott even had no idea how perfectly everything lines up. Or while imagining things, he had to imagine how it would line up, and then make it.
there also the thing that animatronics try to stuff into a suit as an Endoskeleton, but also treat you as an Exoskeleton... about this last part, there any indication that william treat his victims as an suits as well?
As much as I personaly would LOVE for William to return (and I actually have a theory based on some lines from UCN ("They tried to release us, release you, I'm not gonna let that happen") and the connections with "Man in room 1280" of Frights series that William actually survived the second fire and is not dead in a full sence of that word more of a state of coma and that Afton's contiousness combined with mimic 1 programing, creating glichtrap virus and later mimic combines with what's left of scrapteap creating burntrap, then loosing parts, creating a mimic of ruin while glitchtrap "escaping" to the AR world of ruin, ultimately resulting in this wild abomination of remnant, agony, William's will and contiousness, corrupt mimic 1 programing, actual mimic endoskeleton, AR world and all the other programings of glamrocks, possibly some leftover souls of children ?, Charlie ??, Cassidy ???, Mike ???? and Henry ????? (The more "?" the more I unsure in it and 1 "?" is already I'm just saying as a 0,1% possibility) as some sort of omnipotent eldrich reality-altering, brainwashing being as a sort of Lovecraftian Old God!... (I think I went crazy)), I don't think this is a direction that the new (or any at that point) writers go with FNaF story So, just wanted to say (ha-ha, a simple short comment, nothing much, I promised myself to stop leaving those *crazy* theories under FNaF videos, ha-ha. stupid. stupid. Oh... I actually went too far, I think. I should stop this strange intermission, noone is gonna read your comment, just stop already and stop writing yourself to stop! Argh[/_\]) Your explanation of the mimic story is GREAT, the most consistent and logical I've seen yet, especially tying up with toy animatronics (kinda makes you think it was ment from the start, but nah, just too tired and overwhelmed and once again s p i r a l i n g into insanity...) /// I feel ashemed of this comment(-_*)
While I do agree it could have been the save them mci that the mimic saw (although really I think with pizzaparty that's questionable), The Mimic takes place when he was 24, and he's said to have graduated college in the early 70s. So the timeline for him to have made the toys is all messy
Is it? Other characters in Tales like burrows are noted as child prodigies, so I don't think it really matters. If he went to college early at 16, and magically within 2 years like burrows gets a usable degree he's perfectly on track.
I know this video is really old but just to clarify 4:57 yes he does wear golden Freddy in silver eyes Charlie mistakenly remembers Freddy as golden and thinks she is crazy until John says I also remember a golden Freddy, once the ones on stage when haywire John saw golden Freddy and then Michael disappeared. He used golden Freddy to Lure Michael in the silver eyes.
Great video as always but can I just say I really don’t like the idea of the mimic ik there are fans of him but the idea of having to read a book to understand and Know the villain is ridiculous
First off: THANK YOU FOR NOT AUTOMATICALLY CONNECTING MIMIC TO SEEING THE MCI. There is zero reason to make that assumption, and imo the only reason the theory is so popular is entom spread it before the livereads even happened in fredditcord. I can't get that interpretation no matter how much I read it. I like the idea of solving what exactly happened to the toys and also solving what the mimics saw, but I don't think they connect because of how the toys act. Remember, they are fine with kids, but stare at adults. That's not something easy to explain away, and I certainly don't think it can be retconned. I saw your response to Toadstool, but that just doesn't quite make sense to me. I do hope we get more of an answer for the toys, because their story feels like it cuts off randomly, but I don't think this is it it. Who knows, though, we have three books left to go. I'm not really confident the mimics saw anything before VR though - I think their actions in the second half of The Mimic are just them trying to copy things David does, and I think Fazbear was just negligent and didn't check "hey these guys won't go murdering people" before mass-producing them (or thought they fixed the problem, etc.). I think what they see comes from some combination with William in VR (I still think William is involved). Also, don't get me started on the whole timeline thing. I've made a 15-minute video on why the timeline just doesn't work at all if The Mimic story is canon to the games continuity. I don't think we can trust any dates based off purely the book as the ones for when the Mimic was created/saw something happen, as all the dates the book implies are pre-1983, and all dates with the games' version of Mimic have to be taken from the games' angle as such.
While I don’t like Mimic this is my favorite Mimic theory so far as it ties them into the original series and makes them feel less thrown in (Even though they definitely were) also it’s pretty much confirmed at least Mangle saw Afton because I’m pretty sure the mangle sprite is called something like “I saw Him” don’t quote me on that though.
hey, just wanted tp say the William probably didn't wear springbonnie during the DCI, as it was sealed in the FNaF 1 location. Also, he wore the fredbear suit to lure and kill Michael Brooks in TSE
If Edwin is a parallel for Henry and the Pizzaplex is above the location of where all the animatronics were burned in a prison HENRY made then some of his other creations would have been there ie Mimic. As Edwin in books built Chica but we all know thats Henry's thing. Remember UCN is canon since Cassidy held their souls to torture Afton. That means some parts of all of their bodies still had active remnant or even souls. And people make the mistake of assuming that ONLY ONE circuit was scanned into the game.
Didn't phone guy say the animatronics interact with the children just fine, but when they see an adult they just stare. Afton in fnaf 2 is running around while dead bodies lay around. In that mini game nothing implies that the bodies are kids. The withereds aren't active, golden Freddy's suit can appear at random Mangle is moving because the animatronics are designed to move around during the day and night at that point. The animatronics after this only try to hurt adults. Specifically Jeremy. Jeremy is attacked not a kid Phone guy tells Jeremy to ensure the animatronics don't hurt anyone. The bodies are most likely adults or teens nobody tampered with the facial recognition but someone used one of the suits a yellow one. That suit is golden Freddy's as seen by him appearing as a head to Jeremy The fact their is an investigation but a birthday party is still allowed means the animatronics are only seen as potential threats to adults Probably seen as a malfunction of the animatronics attacking adults at night thinking them intruders Like sister location night 5 We know the staff work at night (the staff had to put foxy back together at the end of every shift, eventually they just stopped trying) So is it unreasonable to assume that the staff were attacked and killed in fnaf 2 Phone guy does mention contacting the owner of the original resteraunt Fred bears family dinner. And one animatronic attacks Jeremy at night that we don't see in this mini game but do see in fnaf 3 and fnaf 6 Balloonboy who not only is never mentioned by phoneguy but JJ appearing under the desk is included in the survival logbook So if baloonboy isn't mentioned by phone guy despite having a mechanic of steeling your battery power (very mimic like) Appears in fnaf 3 as a phantom despite never being possessed Appears in fnaf 6 where lemonade clown warns you not to tell anyone about it or he will ...... Along with helpy Appears in lucky boy where he messes with someone who does something similar to Jeremy the beta tester in help wanted Appears in help wanted... along with helpy Appears in the fnaf AR trailer and as part of the fazbear delivery service.......oh sorry that was its name in the trailer, it's suddenly called the fazbear funtime service In fnaf 3 balloon boys voice lures springtrap away by saying hello, hi and laughing Like how Afton lured away the MCI Perhaps you should be wondering if phone guy did contact an owner of fredbears who put baloonboy in the fnaf 2 location confirmed real by JJ in the survival logbook Fnaf 3 Fazbear frights software could use mimic 1 as its voice lures springtrap and springtrap appearing brings phantoms of balloon boy and foxy and mangle that on jump scares, turn off ventilation and audio and video Mimic And the survival logbook asks "was your favourite ride the carousel" Which only appears in fnaf 2 where baloonboy is. So if baloonboy is the mimic and can hide in other items. And can turn off all technology running on battery and power And if fnaf 3 security runs on the mimic 1 ai created by Edwin Things start to fall into place. Because the box in fnaf 3 contains baloonboys head, it's teaser was called "what can we use" Springlock suits were never said to have technology that makes them follow the sound of children And the importance of baloonboys air adventure in security breach being corrupted And where the only thing Scott said was cannon to the games in fnaf 4 Halloween update was baloonboy Who appears to be a nightmare and in fnaf 4 the game mechanic of how surviving against him would work in lore. As light makes him hide or freeze, but feels disconnected from the rest of the fnaf 4 gameplay
about william being springtrap... did you watch "What the Sister Location cutscene really mean? " by Dawko? it show the possibility that after the S.L he go to old restaurant to find her (charlotte=puppet) and set her free (for my understanding, might be by dismantling the animatronics) but they didnt recognized him (the "stitch-wraith's victims like 'ghosts") then they thought he was his dad, and he hide in SpringBonnie...
Yes, after watching vid, it is make sense. He and jeremy work at the night shift (henry - "... the job wasnt intended cor you..." - so perhaps to jeremy?) And will, might use a far control device to control him, then thats why we hear him say lines likr "you will fear me" ect.
Btw do you know the thery that the puppet is shadow freddy, shadow bonnie and the 1 behind the fnaf 1 hallucinations? It goes like this, the Puppet is weirdly full of ghostly power. They make make Hallucinations to scare away the guards when possible so in all 3 locations we see the shadows in it's the puppet doing it.
@@Some_random_Stickman Then why is he nowhere to be seen in pizza sim? Peapaw is right there and I don't see no ghostly purple bears. Now if it was the puppet then it makes sense since shes in constant torture being shocked in lefty but 'ol Willie? He's right there leaving agony and remenant all over the place.
i got a theory that honestly removes a HUGE headache of timeline stuff and honestly its the only way FNAF 2 and 4 can exist on the same time line, the pre help wanted 1 games are the in universe games that were made by the game dev in the story help wanted. The events can be true but due to unreliable narrator we get some information wrong such as dates and parts missing from the actual incidents, theres nothing really stopping the story from having the same endo all the way through but got changed in game after the new endo model was made/found, i mainly like this theory cause theres no way that fnaf 4 takes place in 1983, THE TOY ANIMATRONICS WERE NEW TO THE FAZBEAR UNIVERSE IN 1987 AND THE KID IN THE MINI GAME HAD A TOY TOY CHIKA HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE IF THE GAME IS SET IN 1983
Hardly knew what the Mimic was because I refuse to read the books. I have no idea what’s going on in the plot anymore. Back in the day, we was just trying to figure out who the murderer was, I would have never imagined underground murder bot facilities, soul metal, mimic endos. This isn’t the story I grew up on…
I feel like someone could end up defeating the Mimic by faking their death ie suicide in front of it and then have them all kill themselves as they have no real agency and just do what they've seen.
Just realised the cake in help wanted pizza party is the exact cake model from the portal glados ending showing the cake model on the table And Fury's rage the cake is a lie joke The puppet giving cake to a kid in the survival logbook And the stichwraith being at a birthday party where he is with his friends and cake only to realise it's not real or even a memory The fnaf ar emails based on everyone's fav cakes Bur none of the cakes are the exact model of the cake in portal as the cake in pizza party is. Cool Easter egg
I guess that could potentially make more sense than the Mimic seeing the MCI. Although as others pointed out the toys are only agressive to the adults. Now to my unique viewpoints on this: Would this mean that the children from the DCI don't possess the toys? Like, going from the phone calls in FNaF 2, the implication seems to be the reason the toys stopped acting right is because the children possessed the toys after their deaths. If this assumption about the DCI is correct, does this mean it was retconned or are the children possessing mimic endos and both the endos and the souls are being agressive to people simultaneously on the same vessel for some reason?
I mean the possession or non possession isn't super important really in the longrun, they get scrapped anyways. As to the aggression comment, as I said in other comment replies, the aggression towards adults is a Pre night 6 thing, and as I said in the video staring at adults who they're trained to copy lines up with their purpose, copy adults to mimic their performances. In the night 6 call phone guy says don't hurt anyone which could imply they're beyond just staring at adults.
@@siresquawks I mean, yeah, in the long run it may not be important, but if it true it could go against the theory. Phone Guy knows the Toy animatronics became dangerous, yes, but he doesn't know how possessed robots act, so using the word anyone is the better term compared to saying "make sure they don't hurt any adults". From what we solidly know they stare at adults, and considering what I have heard The Silver Eyes says I don't think the toys would hurt children (again, going with the logic that they are possessed, but in the phone calls they seem to show the same behavior of only disliking adults, and I think there's more in favor of that than them being agressive to everyone).
@@siresquawks yeah,im just saying thing like the mimic making a plan with vannesa and knowing william catchprase are thing that he cant have seen wich makes think that he cant be glichtrap.
I agree With this video and i alwes believed that the endo2 is mimic2 and hell even the name endo2 it well not make sence to Name the new endo 1 and the old one 2 it doesn't make sence unless hes named after mimic2
Bro wait did people actually not think what the Mimic witnessed was the FNaF 2 MCI?? Like bruh the endo in that game literally lives in the puppet's box because it can only be seen after the puppet has been let out. And if the whole Henry-parallel thing is true, that means the Mimic was continuing to do what it was programmed to: be a friend to Charlie. The FNaF 2 endo has to be the Mimic. (It also explains why an endo was present at the FNaF 1 location; the Puppet was there giving life, and the Mimic probably went with her. It also gives the Mimic a reason to dig up the Pizza Sim location beyond looking for Afton's corpse--its friend was trapped there. In fact, the Mimic may have even helped Charlie get into the Pizzaplex's systems.)
Dear Mr. Squawks. Please give me the time of day to talk to you about my Jeremy theory. Its crazy you even brought up the twisted Birthday ending of Help wanted. I saw on Reddit you're a RUclips guy and I just have a theory I feel solves something significant, and that's what soul is in BalloonBoy World Arcade, and inb4 "all crazy theorists think that" I got the RECEIPTS. It could be a huge video for you to just give me a short amount of time. Crossing my fingers hoping you read this.
@@siresquawks If you'd prefer I share the theory here I totally understand but idk how to get the pictures of the books and stuff to back up what I'm saying
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That’s because the MCI is a really old concept, established in the first game it’s the “Missing Children’s Incident” where 5 kids go missing after being lured to a back room in Freddy’s.
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The Mimic saw the FNAF movie.
Lucky
I could get horribly multilated, being a minor, but I am stealing that thing and it will be worth it
squawks thinks they can sneak in that shadow of funtime foxy when discussing phone guy without us noticing
call your theory a meme all you want, it holds water!
Honestly, the mimic is the best thing that couldve happen to fnaf. Ignoring that it feels like a highschooler using the bathroom to skip class (cant disprove is wasnt the original reason, and is plausible), i give the mimic a 8/10.
Now, all we need is a game where the animatronics adapt to your playing style rendering patterns useless.
We don't need the Mimic what We need is someone else to Take over the role of the Main Villain instead of just having Afton keep coming back every game!
@@lockskelington314 you actually brought up something I've been thinking about for a while. I was also on the grandpappy afton slander before I realized it was just security breach.
Fnaf 6 was a stellar ending to the physical embodiment of William. UCN was his punishment and was done really well, he wasn't back as much as he was just paying his dues. Help Wanted you could make the argument he should've stayed dead, but if glitchtrap was just one and done and Vanessa got the torch no one would bat an eye. Also Glitchtrap gives some great insight of early lore in what getting kidnapped by Afton was like, it is a game on recreation. SB is the only game in which Afton had no reason to be alive. It could and should've been Vanessa.
@@quesproductions7170 I actually think Vanny might be the Next Afton. Theres a Theory that Vanny and Vanessa are two different People. The Fire Ending shows us so and the Vanny on the Roof is a Robot that Vanny Made to Take over her running the Pizza Plex while she did Aftons Bidding. See ID's Fantasy Video on it.
At the Princess Quest Ending we take control of Pizza Plex back from Afton effectivly booting him out of the System. Then Vanny Dropped her Mask and Ran to him getting trapped in the Process after the elevator down broke. She's now trying to get someone to try and free her using a Recording/spliced together call that Gregory tried sending to call for help. That's why we see the Rabbit in the Trailer with 5 fingers its Vanny reaching out to us with her Mangled form possibly fused with animatronic maybe even put inside Glitchtrap as she held his dying body when his portion of the Pizza Plex was Cut off from receiving any more power.
@@lockskelington314 I like that theory but it depends on 2 things. Which ending of Security breach is cannon, and if Ruin is cannon. There's a 1 in six chance that that theory is correct, but even still there's some issues with it.
1. If there is a robot Vanessa that would mean robot people are in play. And if Vanessa is the stand in for Elizabeth then oh boy. Now we have robot kids, the fourth closet being being literally literal in the games. Afton children back together? Robot Gregory? How fnaf gives info even if the fire escape ending was real and there are two Vanessas it would take three years just figure out the implications of why.
I just like to think (and hope) Vanessa got corrupted into Vanny and is now crazy. Crazy copy cat story line seems fitting.
@@quesproductions7170 I think Princess Quest IS Canon because it had 3 stars and The Pizza Plex wasn't Completely Burnt down. The Place just looks like it fell into Disrepair like it would have since Vanesa was the only one running it.
Also Gregory isn't actually a Robot but rather a Kid that was Being Brainwashed by Vanny from a VR headset and was using him to try and Find Where Cassidy's soul is in the Pizza plex mini games thus why GGY is on the Top score of Every Arcade Machine. Thats why when Vanny gets close our Vision goes Hazy its the effect of the Brainwashings making you come back under her control.
I like the Idea that Vanny is the next Villian cause all we see is her abandon the Mask never what happens to her. From the Ruin Trailer we can see that the mask doesn't have great visibility so she could be running to Burntrap on to have herself be trapped inside of and Animatronic body!
I've never seen Mangle so upset.. 😢
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the more mimic theories i see the more i really hope that its canon to the games. so many interesting possibilities that are better than just "somehow afton returned"
I wonder if the facial recognition tech on the FNAF 2 animatronics helped it distinguish "who" to mimic. Maybe there were dudes in costume or just older animatronics that "trained" the toy animatronics how to act and interact with customers. But when a bunny started killing kids.....
huh
I really don't like the Mimic myself but if it turns out to be true, I'll accept it. I just don't think it advances the story in any way if it is true because the Villain we has before is still there but he is a robot now that replicates what our original Villain would have done and looks exactly like him which doesn't really changes the story in any significant way.
I personally like the Mimic. I mean, a mimicking robot turned copycat killer? That's the most FNAF thing in FNAF.
@@Jedi-ge6lrI agree. We can finally stop beating a dead horse, err... Murderer Corpse furry man that is William.
I think the two intersting things Mimic Does is:
- We're now playing with a FNAF-spin on the concept of a copycat killer, which while it means we have so far hit a lot of the same beats still changes up what we're doing
- Once the Mimic, if true, is fully revealed, we can now deviate from the Afton track if the Mimic story evolves in a different, new direction
Hey guys, so about that
Just wanted to say that I always enjoy hearing your theories and discussions. You have a really good hold on the franchise and are able to find ways lore can fit neatly. Honest and without exaggeration, I think you deserve as much recognition as the bigger names in the fnaf community.
The one thing that feels off about this is how the toy animatronics are specifically violent towards adults and not children. If they're mimicking William's actions wouldn't it be the other way around?
Except they aren't exclusively VIOLENT towards just adults, they're noted as staring. Phoneguy says don't hurt ANYBODY implying everyone including the kids were at risk.
@@siresquawks yeaaaah but.... they are very specific to note that they act fine with kids but not with adults. It is actually an interesting point I haven't thought about.
Even tho phone guy says "anybody" that doesn't mean he has seen them being also aggressive towards children. It would just be weird to specify "adults" if as far as he knows them attacking kids is still a possibility. But it doesn't mean he knows for sure they attack kids.
@@siresquawks Phone guys says "They interact with the kids just fine, but when they encounter an adult, they just... stare."
So I don't know.
@@LucasTF maybe the classics/withered parts are influencing the mimic, it's a bit of a cop out but still
it’s possible that the spirits are influencing these actions by shifting the murderous intent away from fellow kids, and more towards adults like their killer
The reason Phone Guy tells us to make sure the robots don't hurt anybody is because they had been acting aggressive towards adults recently. This is mentioned earlier in the game.
Yes, but he doesn't specify adults the final time. He says "anybody", showing an increase in overall violence.
@@siresquawks "Anybody" in this context means "Make sure they don't hurt people at all", or more appropriately, "Make sure they hurt no one". That doesn't mean they're a threat to any person or to every person, it just means that Jeremy's job is to make sure they're a threat to nobody.
In The Silver Eyes, William did use a yellow bear suit when he took Michael in that version of the MCI. I think that's the only case of William using a suit that wasn't Spring Bonnie, though.
Something else I think is relevant to these debates: the original Mimic wears costumes to kill people in the story The Mimic, even though it wouldn't have witnessed anything at the pizzerias and presumably wouldn't be connected to any kind of network (is it ever said anywhere that _any_ of the Mimics were a hive, or is that a thing the fandom has assumed?). So I don't know that that part is even from Afton at all, it might just be from watching David and Edwin get dressed each day.
Similarly, it doesn't lure people the way Afton did, if anything its behavior seems more reminiscent of a boss radioing an employee to the back to me.
I'm also inclined to think Pizza Party is an intentional level, not a Glitchtrap thing. After all, you can play it even without collecting any tapes, and the credits scroll + HandUnit's speech fit perfectly for how you'd expect a "real" ending of the game to go.
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The biggest problem with _any_ "Mimic saw the murders" theory for me is the timeline. The Mimic story (or at least the first half of it) is roughly five years after "the early 70s", making it fall sometime from 1975 to 1980 (if we give it a little wiggle room since it's early in the year and the company would have been founded a bit later in). But then, I did recently make a post suggesting a lot more happened between the halves than we think, in which case the second part could very well be years later and the story is just set up very misleadingly.
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Something I think people overlook is that there were two different Mimic lines, Mimic Model 1 and Mimic Model 2. I've kind of wondered whether _both_ Endo-01 and Endo-02 are Mimics. After all, each model _does_ fit any suit of that generation... This does require both a retcon of the designs (which you may be able to do with the indie games excuse) and Tales being a separate continuity where Edwin is taking over part of Henry's job (which I am very happy to accept)
Either way I generally think it's unlikely though, because the other endos in the epilogues match with Endo-01 iirc. Perhaps the upgraded Withereds are Mimic Model 1 and the Toys are Mimic Model 2? They're similar enough Kelly can't tell which the one in the epilogues is, after all.
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In The Silver Eyes, William did wear Fredbear to lure Michael, but used Spring Bonnie to lure Susie. So he may have used both in at least some versions of events, but it also doesn't matter much.
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On Funtime Foxy's hook: If you look closely, you'll notice both of Mangle's hands are _right_ hands. It may be that once kids starting taking him apart, an employee replaced her hook with a hand from a spare suit to avoid lawsuits about them hurting themselves. (Though FNaF World and merch all have the hook on the right, which makes Mangle having _any_ right hands weird.)
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Feel like there was something else I wanted to add, but now I've forgotten it... Oh well.
Some good points in here!
It would also explain the Endo leaving Charlie's music box when the Puppet does, and I think if Mangle is in the Blob it could affect it, too. Plus the fact that the Mimic being in FNAF 2 also makes sense for copying Micheal Afton as Fritz and Jeremy in the emails and stuff, and why it seems ruin has a conflict between Afton's influence on the Mimic and Charlie's influence (and probably other kids and events compiling over the years). If the Endo 02's for the OG and maybe Toy crew were infected with the kids remnant and meted into the Fun times, it might explain the erratic behavior on top of the already murderous programming, and might be why the Blob exists as it does. If Funtime Freddy's head was used as a blueprint for the equivalent of the Tree, a lot of the stuff with the incidents and the mimic software would also merge to make the Blob erratic and violent in so many ways, even if the remnant would be gone, the program might still exist. Maybe that's why it would attack Gregory without Freddy, it has killing intent from mimicking the DCI and the Funtime program combined, on top of possible remaining agony and rage from all the tragedy before it. The base Mimic would have direction because it wasn't likely as touched by every other event having only the DCI and a bit of MCI and might have very little contact with anything else until Help Wanted, but the Blob would have very little if any direction due to so many instances and the pain of times long passed clogging it's program at once, from Elizabeth and Ennard and the mixing of remnant to the many years of chaotic autonomy alongside the Funtime programs and the agony of controlled shocks and burning. Plus having absorbed parts of the displays in the museum would make the number of infected parts increase. The Mimic is Burntrap, but another thing with the mimic program alongside a bit of every other Fazbear tragedy is the Blob, and perhaps both are a fight between what was mimicked from the children victims, predominantly Charlie, and William.
The fact that Edwin remebers the chicken he worked on as "chick" may nodd to Toy Chica's slimmer design
I think this is one of the theories if not the one I hope most for canonicity.
- It fits more than well with what we already have known and it gives relevancy to overlooked moments in the earlier titles.
Wonderful nice theory, and dare I say, it sounds perfect.
Cheers for another great theory, Sire!
Tbh. As much as I dislike afton being back. I kinda prefer him over the mimic. Like, the mimic goes to sci-fi while afton being back still keeps the supernatural roots.
Or you know. Could have gotten rid of both plot devices and make vanny the main villian like they were going to back during the teasers and trailers. A woman being possessed by what's left of an old serial killer from the 80s (which is honestly an 80s horror movie trope. It would have fit so perfectly if they just stuck to that.)
The story and game became too ambitious so Vanny was pushed to the side, since the Mimic endo can wear suits to fit etc, I think he most likely wore the Scraptrap suit since it reassembled Afton the most and Vanessa/Vanny did the rest, Afton coming back in whatever way is too outlandish while having the Mimic carry on his legacy seems way better than having rinky dink Afton back when he's already served his purpose
@@1Tombbbut they didn't need the mimic, they already had a fine new villain!
@@1Tombbthe story became too ambitious? It's as ambitious as any FNAF game after 4...
The Mimic was already happening during Help Wanted, it was just brought to light as of recently, it was already intended to rise eventually even with Vanny on the side, as much as I find Vanny to be goofy character....I already said the story and game became too ambitious so she got the short end of the stick
@@aubergineman3205 I don't know why you're investigating me so hard but all I'm saying is that they were going too far out with the story and and trying to optimize the game weeks before release etc, and when I say ambitious I'm more so talkin about the priorities within the game, characters etc
I think this take explains a big remaining mystery with the storyline, that being that we don’t know what the Mimic did to get the project shut down. We can figure it sees Afton kill and that results in it becoming Glitchtrap decades later, but we know there has to be some immediate fall out. The Bite of 87 is the most infamous event where the animatronics themselves are going haywire.
The toys being tied to the mimics also could explain both of their visual connections to the Glamrocks.
This point is irrelevant to the main theory but FNAF3 does retroactively explain why Springbonnie wasn’t the suit in FNAF2: he was sealed behind a wall immediately after the MCI. See the Tapes
Thats why when William comes back however many years later in Follow Me, the suit is still there (which itself is an analogy for the MCI, they both end with Springbonnie getting stuck inside a wall). This is also why FNAF2 implies the yellow suit is Golden Freddy, because he only starts appearing on Night 6 after Phone Guy mentions the suit, or why there’s the “1987” Golden Freddy easter egg in FNAF1. It wasn’t a joke like everyone seems to think, it was a teaser for the next game.
Novels William used GF to kill Brooks, which itself is already weird, but it shows that he doesn’t mind using a different suit.
I don't think William Afton worn Spingtrap or any golden suit in the Save Them minigame. He and the Mimic saw Springtrap roaming around in fnaf2. The Mimic did nothing. William shut it down with his own tools to save his own life and immediately shut down other roaming animatronics. Remember, Fun with Plushtrap is created by William Afton. He portrays himself as a vulnerable child, keeping Springtrap at bay, and shutting the animatronic down at the right time.
Another thing that's possible, the mimic could have seen the murders of 1985 from the time traveling ballpit story, and since it's at least 40 years old, the other things could have just been from randomly seeing things like kids playing hide and seek
A small problem with the theory is, why would the mimic remake the mci instead of DCI? And how would he know what it looks like, hand unit says that that part of the game was never added or intended to be in the game, or made at all, it was made by the mimic, so how would it know and why would it be important to the mimic? Also fnaf vr came out mid 2019, while tales started being made November or December 2019, so they weren't being made at the same time
Maybe that ending is how the actual game itself ends, ie. the developers made that ending. Then Glitchtrap replaced the model that's supposed to be there, ie. Springbonnie, for whatever reason
If i had a nickel for everytime the FNAF community got a free "it was x all along" i would have....
*Illusion Disks, Robot Humans, Charliebot (specifically, even if the character in question isn't Charlie) and now... The Mimic*
4! Which isn't a lot, but it's weird it happened so many times
I really like this theory. Especially since other than introducing the puppet and some of the original basic lore in the 8-bit minigames, Fnaf 2's actual events are largely completely irrelevant. Like, the dead kids are so irrelevant they don't even show up in the books for sake of streamlining. Jeremy Fitzgerald and the Bite of 87 is pretty irrelevant. It'd be nice for some of that stuff to actually matter to the lore.
This is why chicas beak falls off in FNAF 2, because Toy Chica is mimicking the pigtail girls toy!
You make a pretty good case for the Mimic seeing the FNaF 2 killings.
Originally I was of the opinion it saw the MCI but this idea is just a lot more interesting cuz it repurposes an essentially irrelevant plot point and irrelevant characters.
My main question regarding this then would be: how do the Toy Animatronics work with this information? Would they be possessed and under the corrupted mimic programming at the same time?
i personally believe the toy animatronics are controlled by the puppet.
fnaf 4 shows the toys being played with by a girl. they are on strings, meaning they are controlled.
and since they have the posessed eyes, that is why i believe the puppet controls them. i would say the toys are posessed, but fnaf 4 made me think otherwise. and puppet is a strong spirit so...
plus the kids killed in the new and improved freddy fazbear's pizza were not found. they were not stuffed. they were killed and kidnapped. maybe taken to the afton robotics laboratory and probably had their remnant injected into them. who knows what william did with them?
and for the birthday... i believe that after william did the new killings and kidnappings, the toys went berserk and attacked staff. meaning charlie was panicing.
it especially fits with the puppet cause when puppet became lefty, she was extremely twitchy and dangerous. but they avoid hurting kids. the toys avoid hurting kids. only staff and adults.
puppet sees herself as a savior...but in reality... she kinda just made things worse.
@@nota444tm2 Don't quite agree but that's honestly a very cool interpretation.
@@hudsonthejojo2825 that's what i think since fuhnaff's theory was absolutely ridiculous. merging the books with the games's timeline. "the mimic is baby", "we see the mimic in fnaf world as "mendo" cause the m stands for mimic", etc. all of it struck me as a massive reach and just trying way too hard and looking into stuff too close.
i dont believe the mimic theory. so my beliefs are other more simple explenations.
i mean scott even said the toys on strings in fnaf 4 were actually an important detail. so heah, im hard pressed in believing they are controlled and not a mimic.
5:16 I thought the animatronics went crazy because they saw Afton in the yellow suit and want to make he doesn't kill anyone else (remember they're possessed)
Just one thing I'm confused on, isn't Scotty finally done with FNAF because of the donations he's made, he's just occasionally popping in to make sure that the games don't betray the fandom. Isn't Steel Wool Studios and everyone else in charge now?
No
@Sire Squawks Oh, okay then.
Okay I love the idea of Endo 02 being a mimic, especially because it makes the toys relevant again after just being sorta there in fnaf 2
I do wonder if The Mimic's yellow eyes means anything. It feels like them being yellow is supposed to mean something, but I don't know what.
While I personally don't fully believe the Mimic is in the games (I need more concrete proof), these are perfectly valid explanations as to how they can exist within the games. Out of all the recent theories the community has come up with, the Mimic is legitimately the best. The problem with stitchline and MoltenMCI is that they undermine the previous lore. Stitchline brings William back to life for no reason just to kill him again, alongside retconning Cassidy and adding a 6th missing child, meanwhile MoltenMCI more or less retcons the importance of happiest day by instead having the souls be freed in FNaF 6. Meanwhile we don't need to get into how Charliebots, Elizabethbots and Gregbot just has no proof in the mainline games. The Mimic fits relatively cleanly in the timeline and since Security Breach just has no concrete lore, it can fit right in.
Moltenmci is canon
moltenmci is canon, fnaf 6 didn't free any souls and the happiest day is being set up as the games go on
@@ikaiju-eu9wnit isn't canon, get over it please
@@friskycalibri2293 henry literally said in his insanity speech that they are in the fnaf 6 building and the only animatronic they could be in is molten freddy, in the novels which literally explained what remnant is and explained how nightmares work, molten freddy is the main 4 melted together and also part of their soul was in funtimes, plus one candy cadet story talks about children being sewn together into one body, if that doesn't confirm it then i don't know what
@@ikaiju-eu9wn No it isn't and Henry didn't say anything. He said that the MCI were "Trapped souls in prisons of _my_ making", HIS making, the Funtimes were William's creation. If he was talking about the MCI being molten into the Funtimes, he would have said "Trapped souls in prisons of _his_ making". Plus, the Candy Cadet Stories, as Squire said in his video talking about MCI, are about 5 innocent souls being stitched together by a _good_ person, and it's a bad thing that makes them stitch them together. Unless you're implying William is a secret hero in the FNaF lore, connecting Candy Cadet's stories to him doesn't make sense. It makes more sense that Henry melted the animatronics and put them into Lefty, or that he used the animatronics to make the Rockstars than it is to say they're Molten Freddy.
the only problem i see with endo-02 being the mimic is that in fnaf 2 it explicitly says that the animatronics treat KIDS well, but are agressive towards adults.
if the mimics are mimicking the dci, then wouldn't they be attacking kids MORE than adults? you could say that it is a retcon, but it is a very BIG retcon for the series since it would at least seem to contradict prior events
This is sort of a minor misconception, or we’ll it’s not stated the way people think. Phone guy says “with adults they just stare” and later after the incident says “make sure they don’t hurt anybody”.
@@siresquawks In the same phone call in which he says "with adults they just stare", he says "they interact with the kids just fine."
you could say that after the incident they seem to be agressive to ANYONE, and that can't really be disproven.
anyways, it is weird that this one instance of seeing someone hurting other people would lead them all to hurt people, since they have presumably seen good behavior until then, at least from staff. but it is a normal license for a game to take, so it can be forgiven.
i think it IS indisputable that this is a retcon, though, and that they were initially meant to have been tampered with or posessed
There is 2 possiblity that how Mimic can debut.
1.As Charlie/Baby Virus theory. (Fuh Naff theory)
İts good sides
1.İts explains why Glitchtrap is so manuplative like Circus baby.
2.İts explains why there is so many Nightmarione symbolism in the SB.
3.İts explains why Henry did not took care of it like the rest,since he thought it was in Scrap Baby.
4.İts makes the villian someone we know. And adds it more depth.
5.İts also is a paralel with combination of Elenore and mimic story line.
6.İts makes it "Not just Ai".
7.İts totally organic to lore,and not feels out of nowhere
8.This is also make the Virus more symbiotic. Since this means it will act diffrent per host. This is why Vany and Baby(Elizabeth) has diffrences,but both still beign manuplative.
The bad sides
1.When it actually try to mimic Afton? Since Circus Baby hates him.
2.İts needs a soft retcon. Since this means org Baby is created by Henry much earlier than 1983 bite and Charlies death.
2.Skeleton theory (your theory)
Good sides
1.İts explains why it tries to replicate Afton.
2.İts totally adds up.
3.Mimic probably absorbed Kids and Aftons agony,this is why it looks like that.
4.İt can fit to any point in the timeline very easly.
5.İts totaly organic.
6.İts a paralel to Mimic story line.
Bad Sides
1.This means Mimic has no significant personality. İts basically smart ver of Blob.
2. Apperances of the chracters can be mean nofthing sometimes. Mostly when its comes to significant chracter like Elizabeth.This is means there is a possiblty that it was the org endo-skeletons that withnessed missing child incident. Than its parts later used for Fnaf 2 skeletons. Which can be make an argument that it was the org skeleton models that we never saw them directly.
3.Why Henry did not dealt with them? If what you said them beign Endo-2 models,than Henry must also try to found the remains like he did to fnaf 1 animatronics by using it on Rockstars. And since we know he did not use fnaf 2 robots on Rockstars.
Honestly I like this idea just because it puts Possessed toys into the ground, never really cared for that theory.
Also like how you alternate between mangles genders nice touch.
This is a very interesting connection. It makes sense- which saddens me just a little. If what you have presented has any weight to the canon then even the older parts of the story are being retroactively more sci-fi like the present. I enjoy the new sci-fi elements, but there is a lost charm to that original ghost story feeling.
Burntrap has parts from 2 different animatronics, the first thats noticable is the FNAF 4 animatronic hands along with MAYBE the feet because i cant fully tell. While the arms, legs and maybe torso are Glamrock animatronic parts
It isn’t, I compared them.
4:38 correction, He did wear fredbear to lure michael brooks well that doesn’t mean he killed any other kid with fredbear it’s possible he used it at one point in the games
I think this theory makes sense, but there's a little thing that bothers me.
If the fnaf 2 endos started mimicking Afton, wouldn't they start murdering all of the kids during the parties? if that did happen, how could Fazbear's Entertainment have rebuilt their new location in fnaf 1? because they supposedly only closed the second one because of some more kids being missing and a robot biting a guy's head almost killing him, which is why they could reopen later because those incidents weren't relatively that bad. But if the animatronics started literally doing carnage during the parties, that would make Fazbear's Entertainment close immediately to never reopen again.
Also, the main problem I have with the mimic being Afton is that that would imply Glitchtrap is an ordinary virus, that has nothing to do with souls. If that's the case, how could he possess Vanessa?
To be honest that’s a plot hole regardless. We literally see the bodies of Afton’s victims all around the building and they’re barely scheduled for one more day, but it’s a prequel so the first game HAS to happen somehow.
Phoneguy says “make sure they don’t hurt anybody” so this really just is a fact of the story. The animatronics try to hurt people publicly and they get scrapped and the company moves on… somehow. That’s a plot point regardless of my theory being true or not.
@@siresquawks Phone Guy's dialogue heavily implies that the bodies weren't found until the investigations were underway, suggesting William hid them after the minigame.
I mean, Phone guy did state that someone (possibly William) tampered with their facial recognition systems.
He doesn't state when it happened, but it's possibly after the DCI/Save Them.
This was probably what caused them to become aggressive towards the staff/adults except the children.
I think it's because of the missing children. They're going after their killer who IS an adult. They don't remember what their killer looks like, but they know they ARE an adult. In TSE, the OGs were trying to protect Jason; they thought that Charlie and her friends were going to harm him.
(I watched the TSE: Graphic Novel Dub on YT where Lamar states it, though I'm not sure if it's in the original novel.)
I'm skeptical about the implications. Hopefully, this won't be the case.
To me, I just see Afton/Glitchtrap using the Mimic as a sort of vessel into the real world, not actually _being_ the Mimic itself. I think this would make much more sense.
@@not_irlon18 Phone Guy just guessed that someone tampered with the facial recognition systems as an attempt to explain why they're acting weird towards adults. We, as the audience, know he's wrong, we see the story play out and we know that they're possessed by dead children. That is the reason they're aggressive. It's just like the explanation in FNAF 1 that the animatronics think you're a naked endoskeleton and that's why they attack.
Yes, that explanation is in the original novel.
The Storyteller shows that the Mimic isn't just an endoskeleton. It's also an AI program with paranormal capabilities. The same AI program responsible for corrupting the Glamrock characters. There's going to be a whole story about it haunting someone after they play a VR game and meet Mimic in it. It's definitely the same entity as Glitchtrap.
@@siresquawks I guess, but what I mean is that the animatronics don't act the way the mimic story really says they should. They aren't immediately violent, they just have certain instances were they attack, they don't seem to be mimicking anything in my opinion because if they would, they wouldn't stop hurting people. But they do stop. Which would imply the issue is more like a glitch in the system or some sort of possession.
Also, I would like you to also talk about the virus-possession plot hole of AftonMimic that I mentioned.
This would also explain how the Mimic Program got into Help Wanted without making a brand new unseen animatronic; if the parts of the Toys and Withereds were scanned into the game, of course it would bring the Mimic program with them
I love this theory and is causing me to completely reexamine everything mimic related. I do have a minor question, in this video you said the mimic was a hive mind and I’m curious where we are told that? Could you elaborate, I’d truly appreciate it.
It's more a broad implication, I don't remember if it's really stated outright, which was a mistake kinda in this video.
@@siresquawks thank you, I needed to know since it would completely disprove my pet theory about the alpha staff bots and story teller
13:15 I heard a theory that the other endo head on Mangle was for a pirate themed Foxy while the main head on the Mangle is for some sort of love interest (proposed by Dawko too)
If this is true, the toy animatronics and the second mci would finally be relevant to the lore so i like it
Whether people like the mimic or not, i think is a much better idea than bringing back willian in SB, pretty sure NOBODY wanted that, the mimic may not be the most creative new antagonist, but i'll take it
No William is a better idea The mimic is trash.
So im not sure exactly how to run though it in an efficient manner, though it doesnt really matter that much, but theres a strong arguement that the spring bonnie suit got sealed in the safe room after the mci, and during fnaf 2 william used the golden freddy suit for the dci, and then later reopened the saferoom sometime before follow me. I dont knoww how heavily i belive this interpretation of events, but it does work for a rough outline.
But golden Freddy’s physical suit is still a Springlock suit. It would also be sealed away.
@@siresquawks I'm guessing it wasn't sealed away actually, dunno how, maybe the workers took it, but couldn't dare to touch the SpringBonnie suit, due to it being the suit the killer used?Or maybe Henry took it before the sealing(for whatever reason) or William took it out beforehand(and couldn't take the Springbonnie out because if he did, he would be an even more suspect than he already is, I guess?)and I mean, we don't see GF the previously sealed room in FM(and considering the fact that we can temper with him in FNAF2, I think the suit basically has to be physical here)
Something that I'd like to point out about Burntrap's design that I noticed the other day is that he has Springtrap's endo torso and upper arm sections, but all other parts are from the Glamrock endo design (except the hands).
Thank you for being one of the only people I've seen who uses various alternating pronouns for Toy Foxy (as the Gods intended). You're a real one for that!
Incredible video, as always. ❤
4:30 He wears the Golden Freddy suit in the Silver Eyes, and then switches to Spring Bonnie later.
I didn't know the mimics could work so far back in the context of FNAF 2.
Makes me wonder how much of the FNAF lore is either planned out of just came up with on the fly.
Ffs
*or
It doesn't seem planned out.
It seems like a pure coincidence turning into pure perfection.
Maybe Scott even had no idea how perfectly everything lines up.
Or while imagining things, he had to imagine how it would line up, and then make it.
Based on the in-game quarterly calendars, Security Breach is in either 2029 or 2035, leaning toward 2029.
This is a pretty good theory Sire!!!!
Good video, kept me distracted during my dentist appointment
Now I know more about the mimic AND my tooth doesn't hurt
Pretty good take, it'd be cool to see the DCI actually be lore relevant for once.
there also the thing that animatronics try to stuff into a suit as an Endoskeleton, but also treat you as an Exoskeleton... about this last part, there any indication that william treat his victims as an suits as well?
As much as I personaly would LOVE for William to return (and I actually have a theory based on some lines from UCN ("They tried to release us, release you, I'm not gonna let that happen") and the connections with "Man in room 1280" of Frights series that William actually survived the second fire and is not dead in a full sence of that word more of a state of coma and that Afton's contiousness combined with mimic 1 programing, creating glichtrap virus and later mimic combines with what's left of scrapteap creating burntrap, then loosing parts, creating a mimic of ruin while glitchtrap "escaping" to the AR world of ruin, ultimately resulting in this wild abomination of remnant, agony, William's will and contiousness, corrupt mimic 1 programing, actual mimic endoskeleton, AR world and all the other programings of glamrocks, possibly some leftover souls of children ?, Charlie ??, Cassidy ???, Mike ???? and Henry ????? (The more "?" the more I unsure in it and 1 "?" is already I'm just saying as a 0,1% possibility) as some sort of omnipotent eldrich reality-altering, brainwashing being as a sort of Lovecraftian Old God!... (I think I went crazy)), I don't think this is a direction that the new (or any at that point) writers go with FNaF story
So, just wanted to say (ha-ha, a simple short comment, nothing much, I promised myself to stop leaving those *crazy* theories under FNaF videos, ha-ha. stupid. stupid. Oh... I actually went too far, I think. I should stop this strange intermission, noone is gonna read your comment, just stop already and stop writing yourself to stop! Argh[/_\])
Your explanation of the mimic story is GREAT, the most consistent and logical I've seen yet, especially tying up with toy animatronics (kinda makes you think it was ment from the start, but nah, just too tired and overwhelmed and once again s p i r a l i n g into insanity...)
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I feel ashemed of this comment(-_*)
While I do agree it could have been the save them mci that the mimic saw (although really I think with pizzaparty that's questionable), The Mimic takes place when he was 24, and he's said to have graduated college in the early 70s. So the timeline for him to have made the toys is all messy
Is it? Other characters in Tales like burrows are noted as child prodigies, so I don't think it really matters. If he went to college early at 16, and magically within 2 years like burrows gets a usable degree he's perfectly on track.
I know this video is really old but just to clarify 4:57 yes he does wear golden Freddy in silver eyes Charlie mistakenly remembers Freddy as golden and thinks she is crazy until John says I also remember a golden Freddy, once the ones on stage when haywire John saw golden Freddy and then Michael disappeared. He used golden Freddy to Lure Michael in the silver eyes.
Yeah forgot that moment.
What book do these Mimic blueprints come from?
4:39 In the silver eyes John says he saw a non-freddy bear animatronic with a MCI kid.
Great video as always but can I just say I really don’t like the idea of the mimic ik there are fans of him but the idea of having to read a book to understand and Know the villain is ridiculous
First off: THANK YOU FOR NOT AUTOMATICALLY CONNECTING MIMIC TO SEEING THE MCI. There is zero reason to make that assumption, and imo the only reason the theory is so popular is entom spread it before the livereads even happened in fredditcord. I can't get that interpretation no matter how much I read it.
I like the idea of solving what exactly happened to the toys and also solving what the mimics saw, but I don't think they connect because of how the toys act. Remember, they are fine with kids, but stare at adults. That's not something easy to explain away, and I certainly don't think it can be retconned. I saw your response to Toadstool, but that just doesn't quite make sense to me.
I do hope we get more of an answer for the toys, because their story feels like it cuts off randomly, but I don't think this is it it. Who knows, though, we have three books left to go. I'm not really confident the mimics saw anything before VR though - I think their actions in the second half of The Mimic are just them trying to copy things David does, and I think Fazbear was just negligent and didn't check "hey these guys won't go murdering people" before mass-producing them (or thought they fixed the problem, etc.). I think what they see comes from some combination with William in VR (I still think William is involved).
Also, don't get me started on the whole timeline thing. I've made a 15-minute video on why the timeline just doesn't work at all if The Mimic story is canon to the games continuity. I don't think we can trust any dates based off purely the book as the ones for when the Mimic was created/saw something happen, as all the dates the book implies are pre-1983, and all dates with the games' version of Mimic have to be taken from the games' angle as such.
While I don’t like Mimic this is my favorite Mimic theory so far as it ties them into the original series and makes them feel less thrown in (Even though they definitely were) also it’s pretty much confirmed at least Mangle saw Afton because I’m pretty sure the mangle sprite is called something like “I saw Him” don’t quote me on that though.
hey, just wanted tp say the William probably didn't wear springbonnie during the DCI, as it was sealed in the FNaF 1 location. Also, he wore the fredbear suit to lure and kill Michael Brooks in TSE
I know your name is Sire Squawks, but your mascot dude reminds me of a worm with a beak.
If Edwin is a parallel for Henry and the Pizzaplex is above the location of where all the animatronics were burned in a prison HENRY made then some of his other creations would have been there ie Mimic. As Edwin in books built Chica but we all know thats Henry's thing.
Remember UCN is canon since Cassidy held their souls to torture Afton. That means some parts of all of their bodies still had active remnant or even souls. And people make the mistake of assuming that ONLY ONE circuit was scanned into the game.
Edwin just say that he built some 4 fazbear animatronics, could be the toys, they have a similar program
funtime freddy or the blob as he goes by is a mimic, he has a glamrock endo skeleton head in his mouth.
Didn't phone guy say the animatronics interact with the children just fine, but when they see an adult they just stare.
Afton in fnaf 2 is running around while dead bodies lay around. In that mini game nothing implies that the bodies are kids. The withereds aren't active, golden Freddy's suit can appear at random
Mangle is moving because the animatronics are designed to move around during the day and night at that point.
The animatronics after this only try to hurt adults. Specifically Jeremy.
Jeremy is attacked not a kid
Phone guy tells Jeremy to ensure the animatronics don't hurt anyone.
The bodies are most likely adults or teens nobody tampered with the facial recognition but someone used one of the suits a yellow one.
That suit is golden Freddy's as seen by him appearing as a head to Jeremy
The fact their is an investigation but a birthday party is still allowed means the animatronics are only seen as potential threats to adults
Probably seen as a malfunction of the animatronics attacking adults at night thinking them intruders
Like sister location night 5
We know the staff work at night (the staff had to put foxy back together at the end of every shift, eventually they just stopped trying)
So is it unreasonable to assume that the staff were attacked and killed in fnaf 2
Phone guy does mention contacting the owner of the original resteraunt Fred bears family dinner.
And one animatronic attacks Jeremy at night that we don't see in this mini game but do see in fnaf 3 and fnaf 6
Balloonboy who not only is never mentioned by phoneguy but JJ appearing under the desk is included in the survival logbook
So if baloonboy isn't mentioned by phone guy despite having a mechanic of steeling your battery power (very mimic like)
Appears in fnaf 3 as a phantom despite never being possessed
Appears in fnaf 6 where lemonade clown warns you not to tell anyone about it or he will ......
Along with helpy
Appears in lucky boy where he messes with someone who does something similar to Jeremy the beta tester in help wanted
Appears in help wanted... along with helpy
Appears in the fnaf AR trailer and as part of the fazbear delivery service.......oh sorry that was its name in the trailer, it's suddenly called the fazbear funtime service
In fnaf 3 balloon boys voice lures springtrap away by saying hello, hi and laughing
Like how Afton lured away the MCI
Perhaps you should be wondering if phone guy did contact an owner of fredbears who put baloonboy in the fnaf 2 location confirmed real by JJ in the survival logbook
Fnaf 3 Fazbear frights software could use mimic 1 as its voice lures springtrap and springtrap appearing brings phantoms of balloon boy and foxy and mangle that on jump scares, turn off ventilation and audio and video
Mimic
And the survival logbook asks "was your favourite ride the carousel"
Which only appears in fnaf 2 where baloonboy is.
So if baloonboy is the mimic and can hide in other items. And can turn off all technology running on battery and power
And if fnaf 3 security runs on the mimic 1 ai created by Edwin
Things start to fall into place. Because the box in fnaf 3 contains baloonboys head, it's teaser was called "what can we use"
Springlock suits were never said to have technology that makes them follow the sound of children
And the importance of baloonboys air adventure in security breach being corrupted
And where the only thing Scott said was cannon to the games in fnaf 4 Halloween update was baloonboy
Who appears to be a nightmare and in fnaf 4 the game mechanic of how surviving against him would work in lore. As light makes him hide or freeze, but feels disconnected from the rest of the fnaf 4 gameplay
Squawks cooked and it is delicious!
about william being springtrap... did you watch "What the Sister Location cutscene really mean? " by Dawko?
it show the possibility that after the S.L he go to old restaurant to find her (charlotte=puppet) and set her free (for my understanding, might be by dismantling the animatronics) but they didnt recognized him (the "stitch-wraith's victims like 'ghosts") then they thought he was his dad, and he hide in SpringBonnie...
Are you saying mike is springtrap?
Yes, after watching vid, it is make sense. He and jeremy work at the night shift (henry - "... the job wasnt intended cor you..." - so perhaps to jeremy?) And will, might use a far control device to control him, then thats why we hear him say lines likr "you will fear me" ect.
@@hyugalubbok7770 I don't know about that, that video was outdated. Plus the books kinda confirmed the killer was springtrap
Btw do you know the thery that the puppet is shadow freddy, shadow bonnie and the 1 behind the fnaf 1 hallucinations? It goes like this, the Puppet is weirdly full of ghostly power. They make make Hallucinations to scare away the guards when possible so in all 3 locations we see the shadows in it's the puppet doing it.
No shadow Freddy is not the puppet shadow Freddy is William aftons agony
@@Some_random_Stickman Then why is he nowhere to be seen in pizza sim? Peapaw is right there and I don't see no ghostly purple bears. Now if it was the puppet then it makes sense since shes in constant torture being shocked in lefty but 'ol Willie? He's right there leaving agony and remenant all over the place.
i got a theory that honestly removes a HUGE headache of timeline stuff and honestly its the only way FNAF 2 and 4 can exist on the same time line, the pre help wanted 1 games are the in universe games that were made by the game dev in the story help wanted. The events can be true but due to unreliable narrator we get some information wrong such as dates and parts missing from the actual incidents, theres nothing really stopping the story from having the same endo all the way through but got changed in game after the new endo model was made/found, i mainly like this theory cause theres no way that fnaf 4 takes place in 1983, THE TOY ANIMATRONICS WERE NEW TO THE FAZBEAR UNIVERSE IN 1987 AND THE KID IN THE MINI GAME HAD A TOY TOY CHIKA HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE IF THE GAME IS SET IN 1983
Hardly knew what the Mimic was because I refuse to read the books. I have no idea what’s going on in the plot anymore. Back in the day, we was just trying to figure out who the murderer was, I would have never imagined underground murder bot facilities, soul metal, mimic endos. This isn’t the story I grew up on…
This isn't the story I grew up on either, but I am all for it.
I feel like someone could end up defeating the Mimic by faking their death ie suicide in front of it and then have them all kill themselves as they have no real agency and just do what they've seen.
Chica did say she saw everything 👀
Just realised the cake in help wanted pizza party is the exact cake model from the portal glados ending showing the cake model on the table
And Fury's rage the cake is a lie joke
The puppet giving cake to a kid in the survival logbook
And the stichwraith being at a birthday party where he is with his friends and cake only to realise it's not real or even a memory
The fnaf ar emails based on everyone's fav cakes
Bur none of the cakes are the exact model of the cake in portal as the cake in pizza party is.
Cool Easter egg
Love You Eleanor!
I guess that could potentially make more sense than the Mimic seeing the MCI. Although as others pointed out the toys are only agressive to the adults.
Now to my unique viewpoints on this:
Would this mean that the children from the DCI don't possess the toys? Like, going from the phone calls in FNaF 2, the implication seems to be the reason the toys stopped acting right is because the children possessed the toys after their deaths. If this assumption about the DCI is correct, does this mean it was retconned or are the children possessing mimic endos and both the endos and the souls are being agressive to people simultaneously on the same vessel for some reason?
I mean the possession or non possession isn't super important really in the longrun, they get scrapped anyways.
As to the aggression comment, as I said in other comment replies, the aggression towards adults is a Pre night 6 thing, and as I said in the video staring at adults who they're trained to copy lines up with their purpose, copy adults to mimic their performances. In the night 6 call phone guy says don't hurt anyone which could imply they're beyond just staring at adults.
@@siresquawks I mean, yeah, in the long run it may not be important, but if it true it could go against the theory.
Phone Guy knows the Toy animatronics became dangerous, yes, but he doesn't know how possessed robots act, so using the word anyone is the better term compared to saying "make sure they don't hurt any adults". From what we solidly know they stare at adults, and considering what I have heard The Silver Eyes says I don't think the toys would hurt children (again, going with the logic that they are possessed, but in the phone calls they seem to show the same behavior of only disliking adults, and I think there's more in favor of that than them being agressive to everyone).
I think this doesnt answer probably the most important question thought.
Where did he learnt to transfer his consciuscenes in humans?
To be fair, there really isn't ANY explanation for that.
@@siresquawks yeah,im just saying thing like the mimic making a plan with vannesa and knowing william catchprase are thing that he cant have seen wich makes think that he cant be glichtrap.
@@alessandroreyes3827why mpeg springtrap exists in the first place
I agree With this video and i alwes believed that the endo2 is mimic2 and hell even the name endo2 it well not make sence to Name the new endo 1 and the old one 2 it doesn't make sence unless hes named after mimic2
Bro wait did people actually not think what the Mimic witnessed was the FNaF 2 MCI?? Like bruh the endo in that game literally lives in the puppet's box because it can only be seen after the puppet has been let out. And if the whole Henry-parallel thing is true, that means the Mimic was continuing to do what it was programmed to: be a friend to Charlie. The FNaF 2 endo has to be the Mimic. (It also explains why an endo was present at the FNaF 1 location; the Puppet was there giving life, and the Mimic probably went with her. It also gives the Mimic a reason to dig up the Pizza Sim location beyond looking for Afton's corpse--its friend was trapped there. In fact, the Mimic may have even helped Charlie get into the Pizzaplex's systems.)
Here from the future:
Nope xd
@@Wizardjones69 nah i still think it's true
Dear Mr. Squawks. Please give me the time of day to talk to you about my Jeremy theory. Its crazy you even brought up the twisted Birthday ending of Help wanted. I saw on Reddit you're a RUclips guy and I just have a theory I feel solves something significant, and that's what soul is in BalloonBoy World Arcade, and inb4 "all crazy theorists think that" I got the RECEIPTS. It could be a huge video for you to just give me a short amount of time.
Crossing my fingers hoping you read this.
Hit me. If I think you're onto something I'll look into it, and if it's video worthy you'll get a shoutout.
@@siresquawks Is Reddit okay?
@@ethanbullock4038 Sure leave a link here
@@siresquawks Im sorry. I'm 30, and I don't know what you mean. I did get too excited and messaged you there, I'm sorry I jumped the gun
@@siresquawks If you'd prefer I share the theory here I totally understand but idk how to get the pictures of the books and stuff to back up what I'm saying
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I haven't seen any other fnaf tuber talk about MCI and I find the series here confusing. What does MCI even stand for
That’s because the MCI is a really old concept, established in the first game it’s the “Missing Children’s Incident” where 5 kids go missing after being lured to a back room in Freddy’s.
Sure Squawks is the mimic
Damn you got me
The withered animatronics aren’t the mci kids, fnaf 2 is before fnaf 1
mci happens before fnaf 2...
What is "the MCI"? Kind of lost lmao
Missing children’s incident
Did anyone else find this really hard to follow?
honestly id prefer if the mimic was bruntrap, ratehr than just william again
mimic saw deez nuts
i HATE this franchise
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