The Night Francis Ngannou Broke Tyson Fury
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Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou was supposed to only go one way, but Ngannou shocked the world. He may have lost his first boxing fight ever but he took Tyson Fury to deep waters that neither Fury nor Frank Warren ever expected. Now the Usyk fight is somewhat tainted, and Ngannou has even put a stop to the date that was set in stone. Where does Tyson Fury vs Usyk stand now?
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Round 7 should have been called a KD. Francis got Fury with a left hock before he fell on his knees.
Dude, why do you wach a lot of corn? 3:=)))
What an absolute warrior Francis Ngannou is he deserves all the credit in the world for his performance.
He's a true multi-sport athlete
He is genetically very gifted, though let's also acknowledge the fact that he definitely has some skill and well disciplined training behind those genetic gifts.
It is not unusual for West Africans to be unusually strong and athletic, but Ngannou is gifted even by the standards of that part of the world. Many West Africans have naturally high testosterone, and a combination of other genetic factors which influence fast twitch muscle development and performance. Get used to seeing more and more people of West African descent in sports which benefit from these traits. We've already seen lots in sports like boxing, but usually from African Americans.
I love how, despite Ngannou being an absolute monster of a man, he is a very soft-spoken, gentle, intelligent, and mature man. He really completely breaks the common stereotypes of power-punching MMA champions.
Exactly the way we should look at it.
This a cracking 50 mins on Mike Tyson training Francis..packed with great boxing information. ruclips.net/video/RBrt3D5rG9Q/видео.html
He did really well, but I wasn't surprised.
I wasn't of the opinion that Nganou was going to be an easy fight.
I didn't watch the fight till a week after just to soak up what others were saying.
Fury obviously won, Francis gave a good account of himself, which is what I expected.
The boxing pundits are very snobby about their sport, and disrespected Nganou all the way up to the fight.
Just makes you wonder what could have happened if he’d pursued boxing instead of mma all those years ago. He’d be a whole lot richer that’s for sure
Who would have thought that Ngannou would turn out to be a switch hitting, front foot counter puncher and would be able to land lead left hooks on the supposed “best heavyweight of our generation”
I’m here for it all day 💯
Ngannou also shocked me
Fury fought too many of the same fighters.
Wilder Flatline KO Francis
@@terrellewilliams2188agreed to be honest, wilder has a different kind of power, more of a death touch than Francis has
The fury fraud is becoming unravelled.
A small but very noteworthy detail: if they did take a point for the most blatant elbow ever thrown in a boxing match, on the official scorecards that makes it a draw
Im surprised more people arent calling it a draw, thats exactly how i scored it.
He didnt really put power into the elbow.
It was probably more frustration than malice
@@lordsummerisle852 hes the champion... and it wasnt retaliation... theres no excuse for him to throw bows against a guy with 0-0-0 boxing record... francis shouldnt have been the cleaner boxer.
@@lordsummerisle852 you say that like it's legal...
It should be 2 points off for an intentional foul
This was billed as “baddest man on the planet” the man who got beat up won because he tapped him with a few extra jabs that did no damage meanwhile fury’s face is all beat up and got dropped.
👏👏👏
Yup, the issue is how subjective boxing scoring is. Its possible to argue that either won, but if damage were seriously considered the W would have to go to Francis. On the other hand Tyson technically outboxed Francis, even though it wasnt really significant.
ngannou didn't beat up fury. beating someone up is what fury done to wilder or what ruiz done to aj . ngannou dropped fury and won 3 rounds . ngannou done better than he was supposed to and when that happens people get carried away.
He beat up Fury, you could see how scared Fury was, hence dirty elbow 😊
I think even if you had Fury winning it you have to say Francis is the Baddest. He would demolish Fury without boxing rules and very nearly beat him first time going in a boxing ring!
Fury’s win over Ngannou has damaged his legacy more than a loss against Usyk would have. Justice for ducking and lying.
The steroids now this
All about money, mate. I can't see him ducking anyone, just educated choices for the paper.
@@kierenjerrett7774 let’s see, mate. I fully expect Usyk-Fury to not happen and due to Fury pulling out…and this being the case before the Ngannou fight happened. If it does happen then I’ll happily stand corrected, but Usyk is gonna be slippery for him like Steve Cunningham was and by his own words his hardest ever fight.
@@kierenjerrett7774 The Saudis were willing to pay him through the nose to fight Usyk last year but he didn't take it, cause Usyk was too high a risk. He gets paid a similar amount for Francis and jumps all over cause he thought it was an easy win.
Don't excuse these antics, his cherry picking backfired.
@@supersardonic1179 couldn’t agree more. We can do a bit of deduction here:
1. When negotiating the first time with Saudis Fury asked for more money than they had to pay both fighters combined.
2. It’s reported that Usyk got 65m against AJ so given undisputed would he bigger than that and Fury was still the A side then probably Fury was asking for north of $150m.
3. Even if he took 100% of the gate at Wembley where the negotiations went after Saudi’s refused he wouldn’t get more than 150m so it clearly wasn’t about money otherwise he’d have taken the Saudi amount. He never planned to take the fight and was just pretending.
As for the fight being done, I’ll believe it when I see it because like you said I don’t think it’s about money but rather not risking his 0. For me this fight might only happen because of the backlash against Fury because the fans aren’t as stupid as he thought and they mostly see through his BS. I’m still not holding my breath he’ll go anywhere near Usyk.
This fight was Tyson Fury’s cherry pick gone wrong 🍒
Facts
Based on Fury’s performance and PPV sold in the Francis fight, he deserves 30% in the fight with Usyk now
😂😂😂😂😂
He's not lying low, he's lying non-stop.
Uhh except fury has the much bigger crowd draw than usyk, weather right or wrong the best usyk could hope for regarding the purse is 50/50 split because of that fact alone
@@oliverparrish5470 fury - Francis made around 70k ppv buys, even Usyk - Dubuous made much more. Not that big of a crowd for fury, to be honest.
The fight doesn't make sense anymore, they're fighting to see who's number two,
Never seen an "ATG" get dropped and humbled by a debutant.
Fury's truly one of a kind 😂😂😂
Pass me a tonic pal
Did you see the time fury uppercut himself? Yeah Francis did it to himself this fight also
This is a perfect illustration of losing the battle but winning the war. The only winner in this whole saga was Ngannou.
and both their bank accounts
Fury “the greatest heavyweight of all time “ 😂😂😂
The fraudulent habitual cheater Shrek lookalike ogre is pillow fisted
Still drops usyk
@@M.as.e
Olexander Usyk is going to be knocked out by fury
Never ever will😢😅
No glove tampering against Francis in Saudi Arabia promotion. That's what happens when there is no tampering
The Fury family have been exposed as terrible fighters, the father had a trash record, tommy struggles against youtubers and tyson lost to a ufc fighter
Dude…. Francis boxed in an othodox calm way and turned fury into a wrestler…. Holy hell what universe is this?
Ngannou has always wanted to be a boxer, he didnt think he had the talent or skill to just get into boxing, thats why he went the mma route, he figured if he could make a name for himself he could get into boxing, and he absolutely did. Go back and watch or listen to some of the rogan podcast wheb he has francis on, he explains it. Big reason why he left the ufc is so he could box. Man i hope francis keeps boxing, he can shake up the hw division and hopefully breathe some fresh air into it and bring new talent!
Yea propa, been waiting for this 😄
Here’s the thing that really struck me in the fight. When Fury got dropped by Wilder in his fights with him, he went forward and charged at him. When he got dropped by Ngannou, he became very cautious because of you look at the Compubox numbers from the fight Fury didn’t throw a whole lot of punches in the rounds afterwards. That means Francis’ power is legit.
No, no it means he has actual defense unlike wilder 😂
Thank you Captain Obvious!!!
He charged at Wilder because Wilder has NOTHING else in his arsenal outside of that right hand. Ngannou's toolbox is much larger, making him far more dangreous
@@flamehirowilders head movement is pretty good pal, just because he keeps his hands down dosent mean his defence is non-existent. Don’t try go there about prince nas.
@@shonwamcfeckerty7363honestly wilder needs a bit more hard fights to determine potential. Fought too many ezs 😂
The biggest surprise for me was Ngannou not gassing. His performance was well beyond expectations. Tyson definitely overlooked him and his clinch work was unsuccessful. Tyson is used to wearing down power punches with a "Grab&Lean" type of clinch, this did not work nearly as well with someone who's body has been conditioned to wrestling exchanges. Quite frankly, Fury was flummoxed after the knockdown, he abandoned many of the techniques that have brought him his success. I believe he won on points (barely) but Ngannou had the much larger moral victory. If they were to rematch in the future and Fury is dialed in, I think Fury takes it handily---- or gets KO'D brutally by or before the end of the 3rd round.
He didn't gas because he wasn't made to work. Fought a really negative fight against someone whose last 4 fights have been against 3 people with zero movement. This is what happens when you fight at a low level consistentl while believing your own hype, it's reflected in your own game
Ngannou doesn't have that success against fitter fighters who do fight at a higher level. People who move and make him move. It's a very simple dynamic
@@K_j_M look up pictures of Tyson Fury in this fight, then look up pictures of him in his second fight against Wilder.
Fury looked terrible. Worst shape we’ve seen him in in years. The problem wasn’t the caliber of fighter he’s been fighting (even if it has been lower than he’s capable of), it was how he didn’t take the fight seriously.
He did gas. He threw like 4 punches total in the last 2 rounds
@@kd8vk551Sure, but I expected him to fade out much earlier than that. Especially being a "one punch" type of fighter, I anticipated him holding his sides by round 4 or 5
Nah he shouldn’t have even won he thru a whole ass Elbow that should’ve deducted a point but ofc they were not gonna call that cuz that would’ve made the fight a draw honestly sad to see goes to show that boxing has really came downhill
Best breakdowns on the RUclips. Keep on keeping on, Propa 💪✊
Was waiting for this for longest
Francis was truly fantastic for a first timer!
Go on Usyk!!!! 🥊🥊
This a good watch on Mike Tyson training Francis.. ruclips.net/video/RBrt3D5rG9Q/видео.html
francis was robbed
I still don’t think they should give Francis a top 5 spot. It’s unfair to someone who might deserve it, boxing their whole lives. I understand he had a good performance but it’s just a bit silly
He stood toe to toe and arguably beat the heavy weight champion of the world, if that doesn't land you top 5. What does?
Maybe not top 5 but definitely a top 10 spot. Really though, modern heavyweight boxing is just kind of a joke, not much talent in the division.
@@mattj1829Fighters have done it countless times in the past. And not cracked the top ten afterwards!
He's better than them though
Arguably but he didn’t though, if he’d have won I’d say something different but 1 fight? Nah it’s a bit silly.
What a corrupt sport, even if we take away the double knockdown and the illegal elbow, it's still debatable that Francis won. Those 2 judges need to be held accountable, I hope they're getting all the heat right now from the people.
Accountable? Count the rounds. Ngannou threw like 4 punches total in the last 2 rounds and expects to beat a champion?
If anything, the dissenting judge has more explaining to do
It ain't just Tyson that looked dejected, Prop. Look at his team, the blokes around him KNOW!
Its quite obvious fury is banking money fights to secure a retirement bag.
Of course he looked dejected going into ngannou fight, francis might be the "hungriest" combat sports athlete on the planet considering he literally grew up starving and working in sand mines... furys self destructive mental health struggles cant compete against that drive. Francis almost auto wins the mental game right off the rip from that alone, plus, he goes back to work the mines to keep himself humble... a western fighter has to have an order of magnitude more talent and a lifetime of training to compete with that, and even then, that doesnt always work considering he only has like what 4 losses to his name? (One of which shouldve been scored a draw in the fury fight).
One thing that is obvious is that tyson fury isn't 6"9.
Tyson Fury looked exacly the same as he's ever looked (not counting his Klitschko fight discounted for Ped drugs) and no different in any way other than: This is what you're seeing when the opponent is as tall, has as long a reach, is as heavy and the opponent was better at the one thing Fury relies on: wrestling and 'mma' moves in the ring. This is exactly Tyson Fury as he always was.
The Hammer fight was struck from record for PEDs. Pissed clean for Klitschko
All boxers are on PED’s give me a break, especially klitschko’s
Hughie fury...PED'S....YEA the fury camps are bang at it.
@@joskevermeulen3271 I could see it because AJ is also (like Nagano) nearly the same height as Fury and had monster strong legs. Fury loses his one 'ring iq genus' move of just laying his huge upper body weight on Big AJ to exhaust him.
@@copee2960 That is actually quite a strange thing too. Weirdly, Fury had actually been caught using Peds before the Klistschko bout but not actually suspended (i think this was just the WBA??) and the fight went ahead as usual. So he's stripped of that belt after his win but the win isn't 'disqualified' either. Later Hughie and Tyson were suspended for 2 years for cocaine use (squaring with everyone who were sure Fury appeared high on cocaine during the bout),
HOWEVER,
technically, on paper, officially, Fury's championship win remains official in every technical sense.
realistically,, like many of those where they later discovered 'PEDS' like that, I suppose a sports historian might put an '*asterisk' and it gets remembered as not a legitimate win in the realistic sense.
Ngannou won. BOSH
He'll still duck the usyk fight
Mid 2024 if ever
No he won't he wasn't ever ducking it it's just about ££££ and it's worth too much not to happen. He's rather lose and bag 50mill or whatever then not fight and retire with some worthless belt made from plastic.
Francis dancing is a boxing memory. He did good.
The scoring of the fight is debatable but i think we can rest assured that Francis Ngannou bang's like a runaway freight train.
Boxing isn't based on damage unless you get a KO or TKO. Or the points are totally equal at the end.
Street fights are though, and everyone deep down still looks at a fight this way especially if your the one in it...and that's what the difference is here, everyone knows as a fight ngannou won. As a boxing contest, fury won. compubox is a computer program it has no bias or preference in style it just counts punches, landed or not.
I scored it a draw, nobody with a 0-0-0 pro boxing record can win a decision against the champ while being behind on score cards, even if its not by much. Ngannou really needed a ko to officially win.
Im not a fan of greedy belly, if anything im biased towards ngannou, that man is such an inspiration. I hope he keeps boxing, i think with some more training he could run the heavyweight division for at least a few more years. Hell foreman did work in his 40's.
The 'self punch' is a truly timeless giggle. 🤭
Fury had 3 fights against Wilder
His face never looked as bad as it did with just 10 rounds with Ngonnou
Hes exposed boxing, Ngonnour wipes out that heavyweight divison, Usyk, while technical, will just be overbeared by Ngonnous power & patience, he already beat fury & sends AJ to retirement
3:13 You said "It was almost a Rocky story" but your wrong IT WAS A ROCKY STORY! In the original Rocky movie he lost his big fight with the champion just like Francis and he lost by razon thin margins like like Francis. I'm ready to see the sequel to this story because in the movie Rocky finally wins his Belt! Only thing missing is Francis needs his own Burgess Meredith screaming at him from the corner.
Lol rocky was a “normal” guy. Ngannou is 6’5, 260 lbs, 12% body fat, and holds the record for strongest punch ever recorded. More than a punchers chance
That said, Fury has demonstrated his ability to adjust many times over. He comes back and wipes the floor with Francis if there’s a rematch
What an utterly embarrassing performance by Fury. The supposed "greatest heavyweight ever" according to his more delusional fans SHOULDN'T have looked so pathetic against a debuting boxer. If it weren't for Usyk heavyweight boxing would be an absolute joke.
I hope Fury is forced to fight on Dec 23rd. Apparently he'll get sued for $200m if he refuses so that'll put a nice little dent in his bank balance, won't it?
Francis is the lineal heavyweight champ now. It's a mythical belt anyways, so why can't I say he's the holder of it.
Fury looked like a beaten man at the end. You can make a case for him winning a close decision but he surely didn't believe it himself.
Let's be honest that was the worst I'd seen Fury fight since the 1st Mcdermott fight, the way he acted you'd think he didn't have the reach advantage, his feints were bizarre rather than effective, his Ring IQ was poor, he didn't change in reaction to what Francis did or properly set up punches. He threw half as many punches as normal. The fact Francis landed 59 punches in 10 rounds and that was good enough to be considered competitive shows how bad Fury was. Foreman, Marciano, Frazier Ali, Holyfield etc. There are too many I can name. Have landed more punch in a single round than Francis did in the entire fight. It was also bizarre the way he delt with being knocked down every other time he goes on the front foot, this time he just stayed the same throwing out a few more jabs. Even when Cunningham knocked him down in round 2 or when Wilder knocked him down in the first fight. Fury was in a much more perilous position in both those fights, yet he still went on the front foot. But he didn't here. And when you think Usyk will throw over 3x more punches than Francis will, if Fury comes in like this he's lost.
He's slowed right up. Watch him in 15 vs Wlad and now 8 years later it's finally caught up with him. It's like tennis player Murray is a shadow of what he was 8 years ago, same with Fury.
nope, Fury did everything he ever did. his 1-2s were as fast and strong as ever. This is just what he looks like when he fights someone as big and heavy as him who's even a bit better at grappling. Otherwise, Fury was exactly Fury as you've ever seen him.
@@topsuperseven7910 stop making stuff up, if he was as fast and strong as he ever was, why was he throwing so little. Francis took a round longer than Cunnigham a cruiserweight to knock fury down, the idea that it was Francis being to big is patently absurd. The fact you have not been able to refute anything I've said is very telling.
@@jasonladd6400 yeah exactly
@@Alex-cw3rz If you need to create a argument that goes "If that's true then why wasn't something like something huh?" you've lost this.
Still, I'm going to try and help explain this so you'll just see 'well...then why wasn't something else like another thing?" again.
He was as fast and strong as ever because we can directly see it.
Do you understand?
You don't understand what you're watching so you believe others must not know either so we get to have a "Who knows?' BUT in fact, boxing people can eye this and see that his punches were as strong and fast.
Because we saw it.
It happened. We can time the speed of his counters, defense, the split second it extends.
Just like you see a car go down your street and can see it went as fast as the last car.
You ask this irrelevant question "even though this has nothing to do with his speed and power.... why did he throw so little??"
because he wanted to win the boxing match on point.
Like he did vs Wilder 1 (an amazing 2 or 3 punches a round at times) and Klitschko too.
He became aware of 2 things early:
Naggano has trained to counter-punch him and is being very good at it.
2. Naggano is punching very hard.
So what Fury does is try to minimize the damage he takes and you're going to need to keep something in mind:
In boxings scoring system, Fury can win that round even if he only lands 2 punches and nagano 1 punch.
Knowing exchanges were not going his way, he chose to preserve his damage control and endurance and ONLY pick the best possible places he could pop and get stung once but to pop just a single punch or more than Nagano.
THATS WHY.
Your other thing, which is largely blamed on your understanding of reality through video games is so stupid I can't even try sorting it out for you.
"uhh... if size made any difference why did it take Naggano a round long to KD fury' just wowwwwwwwwww.
please don't engage in these discussions anymore ok? i don't belong in a ring with top boxers as if I'm actually going to engage meaningfully.
YOU should not be trying to carry on these levels of discussions. Maybe there is some WWE 'kombat sports' video fights you can go opine about?
Had he fought Ruiz, Hrgovic, Wallin rematch or even Parker instead of Ngannou none of this would've happened
Belly screwed himself
You don't win a fight where you landed 7 more punches.... but also land fewer power punches, get backed up the whole fight AND get dropped. Everybody knows in their gut who won that.
I think a draw was the result and Tyson would of been lucky to get that. The Usyk fight will be the usual delay and sh*te we have to put up with nowadays ending in a Fury duck and retirement.
This fight wasn't almost a Rocky story, it was EXACTLY a Rocky story! Rocky lost to Creed but won the war, mate!
John:
"I know what's you're thinking Tyson, you didn't beat him senseless and the man just kept coming after you. We don't need that kind of man in our lifes, just let it go... let it go"
Tyson:
"Man i won! but i... clearly won so no need for a rematch"
John:
"Okey, lets just focus on Usyk fight now"
Fury:
"Fuck that, Usyk is dangerous, it's either an easy match or i'll retire because there is nothing to prove"
*end credits roll*
training camp before a fight isn't a weight loss camp, fury is obviously too old at this point to endure losing a shit ton of fat as he's done before and then perform. he looked weak and deflated in the fight, and still pretty chubby. unless he starts living the life of an athlete moving forward he's done at this level, and certainly wont beat usyk
Yeah I agree, I know it has nothing to do with boxing skills but asides from Foreman in the 90s who was in his 40s at the time I can't remember a recent heavyweight champion who was as out of shape as Fury, its surely gonna take its toll as you approach 40 and still getting in the ring with elite fighters.
I did have Fury taking it on points, but the fact that it's up for debate says a lot. We'll see. Fury has often fought down to the level of the opponent... in this case it was only the perceived level, and he nearly paid for it.
It's a fallacy that he just boxes to the level of opponent. They say this after every bad performance. He blitzed Schwarz out in 2 rounds ffs. One of the worst people he's faced
@@K_j_M I did say "often", not "always", but I guess we'll only find out if he rematches Ngannou.
BOXING = WE HAND PICK ALL OUR FIGHTS AND EVERYONE CLAIMS TO BE THE BEST WHILST FIGHTING OLD MEN.
MMA = THE BEST ACTUALLY FIGHT THE BEST, WITH LOTS OF YOUNG TALENT AND THE REAL BEST FIGHTER IS CROWNED.
You're judging the entire sport of Boxing based on an admittedly lackluster Heavyweight Division.
Would be like me saying UFC is entirely full of inbred Dagestani's... oh wait.
One thing’s for sure. We will all tune in for a rematch.
Francis ate that elbow like a fucking light snack, baddest man on the planet.
I think Ngannou had this. But by extension of that, I've got my eyes glued to the future of his combat sports career. The man has an incredible story, is built like an ox and has a crushing punch, so whether he sticks to MMA or delves more into boxing I think it will be interesting to watch.
I saw the judges score cards. They did not count the second knockdown. And the 10 count after the first knockdown was like 20 seconds. Francis definitely won.
And I'm a Fury fan but I'm not stupid. 2 knockdowns and a scared Fury is definitely a win for Francis.
@@SSM12457 they only start the count after the other fighter returns to a neutral corner. Francis wanted to stand there dancing like a leprechaun
@@SSM12457were you watching in slow motion? Cuz he definitely was up before 10
The only reason I gave Ngannou any chance at all was because he was fighting Fury, who is notorious for being inconsistent and putting poor performances in "easy" fights. Don't forget Otto Wallin almost beat him and Wilder was probably one punch away in their 3rd fight. It is what it is, Fury had one of his brain farts and it let Ngannou into the fight.
It's interesting that when Fury is not so good or average or is matched you don't really count that as the 'True Fury'. that he must be only half Fury. The ones where its the REAL Fury are the ones where he did fairly well. You don't say "hey, 2 o 3 times Fury, a rather average boxer, a few times he came up BIG in big fights'. Then Wilder 3 is about the only one example.
Jfc this is such a hard cope.
This a cracking 50 mins on Mike Tyson training Francis..packed with great boxing information. ruclips.net/video/RBrt3D5rG9Q/видео.html
Fury looked shit because he was delberately making Ngannou look good. Fixed fight.
How 'bout punch drunk fans, mainly from the UK, that dead-set think Fury's the greatest ever heavyweight boxer 😅😂.
Like Teddy Atlas said, he doesn't nowhere near deserve that "greatest ever" title, because it's an insult to so many other greats with far superior boxing resumes than Tyson Fury's resume.
That was a humiliation and violation on a EPIC SCALE lol 😂
Francis looked like Iron. Nothing seemed to hurt him
We’ve all met a usyk aint we down the club. Those eyes. He’s the bloke you let push in front of ya at the bar. In fact sun, let me buy your beer for ya 🥺
Best thing that could of happened. Dead rubber no one cared about. Usyk would of made him his sissy. Now he got something to prove. C'mon February.
I personally think that Fury suffered a combination of being civilised (think Rocky 3) and Victory Disease. No longer having the "Eye of the Tiger" and clearly not concerned with putting his all into every fight has bitten him back, but I wonder if it bit him as hard as needed for some realising to occur. Whether Fury will take the extended time before the Usyk fight to train properly and approach the fight in top form or if he'll very mistakenly view it as another "easy fight", we'll have to wait and see.
As for Ngannou, I was among the many who didn't give him much of a chance and was surprised by his stellar performance. The man proved that be could comfortably belong in the boxing ring and while he may not be ready for the likes of Usyk, even on an off day Fury is not an easy opponent. I'd like to see more of Ngannou in the boxing scene, becoming a big player and possibly shaking things up. Because personally, because Fury vs Wilder, Usyk vs Joshua and this very fight, the Heavyweight boxing scene for me has been pretty boring.
Calm down Plato... It's not that deep. He just had a shit fight with a shit plan and almost paid the price on his record. Certainly paid the price with the public
Wilder can't box. Joshua can't move. Ruiz is physically limited. Ngannou is at the very least competitive against all of them. Usyk is a great fighter but he struggled to get people out of there at heavyweight and I don't think he could trouble Ngannou with his power - he would have to box and move.
Ngannou isn't a great boxer, but he's ok - with tremendous durability and massive power. For a debutant he's by far the Goat. He will get better if he continues to box. Good to set the cat amongst the pigeons in heavyweight boxing.
@@K_j_MNgannou is a elite boxer
His also visibility slowing down. His living will catch up eventually, it's been 8 years since he beat Klitschko and he fought wars ever since. I think he only had a couple of high level bouts at best, if he gets the unified he should consider checking out soon.
Fury was always an overated dosser. Beat a grandad 40 year old klitscko on a points stinker and windmil wilder who's best win is going life and death with a 99 year old luis ortiz. That the gypsy kings resume, oh, and a trilogy with gate keeper double digit losses chisora. As soon as fury stepped in the ring with someone the same size/weight as him that he couldnt weight bully by leaning his sweaty gypsy tiits on the whple fight, he got exposed.
I think it deserves to be repeated just how much taking away the opportunity for Fury to recover by clinching was a big deal for Ngannou. I don't know if it is more due to skill and experience with stand up grappling or his size and physicality. But heavyweight boxers could certainly stand to learn from him and MMA in general in this regard. Just look at how good Ngannou's foot placement was whenever Fury tried to clinch.
I don’t think ngannou will repeat it because obviously it’s more likely he gets pumped off fury, he is the gypsy boxer after all. Makes more sense to fight wilder or summut
Are you seriously praising Ngannou for the one thing he had least done for? Like, come on, he wasn't tired out because he wasn't smaller than Fury. That's basically it. A clinch like Fury uses it only works in Boxing to tire out the opponent by using your weight. So you basically force the other guy to carry part of your weight making just standing more work. There is absolutely no skill in this, just size. Real skill is only required when smaller as to not get into a clinch at all. Usyk will have to avoid clinches with Fury because he is smaller, nothing else he can do.
Same, Propa. 95-94 to Ngannou every time I watched it. Makes you laugh that all these old boxers like Atlas and Lewis say Fury won, which he clearly didn't. It's like they're scared to admit the MMA guy might have just embarrassed their sport.
But the MMA guy in this instance is a boxer.
@@blackpalacemusic To be a "pro boxer" you only have to take one professional fight. Well Ngannou hadn't had any pro boxing fights until he fought Fury. So no, he was not a boxer at that point he was the "MMA guy". Of course, he's the undisputed WBC champ now!
This is the anti Fury channel so wouldn’t be surprised of bias against him everybody know who won but barely
@@terrellewilliams2188 bet you think anyone that isn't suckling on tyson's nutsack is anti fury.
@@terrellewilliams2188 one of the judges had Ngannou winning and most people agree that the outrageous of the scores, was the one that had Fury winning by 3 points. The fact is, Fury got beat up so bad, he had to cancel the post fight press conference and postpone the Usyk fight.
I don’t think Fury is passed it. I think he has consciously changed his style since the second wilder fight and has now gone one dimensional. He seems to have decided to try to please the casual fans and go for KOs, which basically means using his size and weight to maul and smash everyone - 50/50 as to whether that pleases anyone or if it’s just easier than being in shape. I loved it when he was slick and hard to hit. While the second fight against Wilder was a brilliant tactical move at the time, the way he’s fought since has been pretty shit to watch. The third wilder fight was shocking, no head movement, just brawling and won on heart and luck. There’s a middle ground that he hasn’t found and that’s probably because he isn’t trying to keep the weight off… weight=power blah blah. Sugar Hill is renowned for having this brawling/bullying style, and I think some of Fury’s best assets have been wasted of late. I’d love to have Peter Fury / Ben Davidson back on the pads with him. Now Furys been in with someone stronger than him, with good movement and fast hands, it seems Fury had no other levels to go to, just stuck in the mud. He’s a lucky lad to have gotten away with that one. Though I had him winning 1, 2, 5, 6, 9, and 10. Nnganou was a shock, to prepare for him now would be very different, who knew he was that quick with his feet/hands? Delighted to have him in the mix, will have to wait to see how good he is, but good luck to him!
Fury only beat wilder cuz he was 50 lbs heavier, he just bullied people with his size, but he couldn't do that cuz Ngannou has size and skill
Never have so many been so happy to have been so wrong. This why you name your son Francis, so he is forced to start fighting as soon as he enters first grade.
Here before this guy gets a million
He’s too funny 🤣🤣🤣
I like how we always make "Illusions" about Fury's characteristics, but always tend to forget that he's a Gypsy, and lives by his own rules! Just a thought...🤷
Tyson the clown got exposed for the conman he is😂😂💯💯
Fury looked like an old 35 in that fight
Fury is nothing more than the top of the current crop of heavyweights. When one considers what a poor crop that is in general, it is not saying much about Fury. This is why a very technically basic and limited boxer like Wilder has been able to put him down several times, and this is why Nganou did as well as he did - because Fury is nothing special at all. Put him in a ring with Joe Frasier, Lennox Lewis or Holyfield and Fury would get smashed to bits. There is NO comparison at all between the heavyweight division today and what it was 30 years ago. Not even close.
James, well f ing said .
This guy's delivery of everything he says is as good as someone elses chip; you feel like you don't deserve it but it's delicious and the guilt eventually disappears
NGANNOU REMINDS ME OF HOW AJ USED TO FIGHT. COUNTER PUNCHING WITH VENOM. Ruiz took AJs heart
People seem to forget that Ngannou started his martial arts journey with boxing and has a heavily boxing-based style in MMA. Although not an professionally experienced boxer he is a highly experienced martial artist whose specialty is boxing making him as far from a typical "novice" as one could possibly be. He basically has all the experience you could get outside of actual boxing fights and as much practice as one who isn't professionally boxing in the ring can get for the last 10 years.
So whilst it as surprising to see Fury not be able to dominate at first, it is far from unexpected. Adding into this is that his coach is basically a boxing legend that has become a great personality in the meantime making Mike the perfect teacher.
Every word you wrote is wrong
@@tonidvornik8754 it’s really not he’s the only one speaking sense
@@jamesprynne1422 Every sentence he wrote is wrong. 1. Sentence: people are not forgeting he uses boxing based style in mma. Thats why he got the fight in first place. Nobody thinks he is a wrestler or jiu jitsu specialist. 2. He is not "as far from a typical novice". You could say that for usyk before his first pro fight. Ngannou had some decent experience but a lot less than any amateur boxer. 3. Sentence can be true, if you dont count amateur boxing, which you should. If you do, then its wrong. 4. It is far from expected. It is easy to say now after the fight. Before the fight everyone was expecting fury to run trough him. 5. Mike is not a perfect teacher, he is just a boxing legend. Ngannou didnt use any of the boxing that mike used back when he was fighting. Every sentence was wrong.
@@tonidvornik8754 I’m sorry mate but you’ve clearly no idea what your talking about when you say you could say usyk is furthest away from a novice before his first pro fight? Usyk had an EXTENSIVE amateur career with a lot of fights, and fought in the Olympics and won gold, so no you couldn’t make the same comparison at all.
But what the poster was getting at is Francis has stated the learnt to box first and only went into mma as he got told it was faster way to make money, but he still leant to box first, nowhere near to the standard of usyk tho obviously.
Fact is fury overlooked Francis majorly, people acting like it’s never happened, Otto wallin, alleged east fight we all saw what happened, John McDermott one, fury lost that fight and probably is the dodgiest decision in boxing, Steve Cunningham people thought fury’s size would dominate but once again we all saw what happened.
But bottom line fury always comes back hard and watch come February we will see fury back to in his words the gypsy king as it was Tyson in the ring against Francis not the gypsy king as fury puts it
@@tonidvornik8754 also you say mikes not a perfect teacher after what happened I don’t know, Tyson is a great student of the game and you could really see him trying to pass on what Cus taught him, and also has Tyson trained anyone before?? Maybe we’ve overlooked Tyson as a trainer now, they say the best coaches are ex fighters well who better?
Usyk has Fury's number, always has since he stepped up to Heavyweight.
By the way, don't mention the Fury Vs. Ngannou PPV figures... Ooouf.
MMA! MMA!
Fury won on points when I scored round by round. HOWEVER I didn’t score it my first watch. Most rounds did not have a clear winner and Ngannou did knock Fury down in the 3rd and really beat Fury up in the 8th(?). So I felt Ngannou won, he had a few great moments and Fury did not.
Francis won my heart. What a beast. He boxed on equal footing with the Lineal HW Boxing champion!
So Fury won on points!
@@P.H.888 exactly
Love your videos propa❤
After rewatching, I'm pretty sure Fury did win by one or two rounds. Although it was so close that literally 2 or 3 more power shots or combos in the latter half of the fight could've tipped it towards Ngannou.
Nope
@@lauderdale77 What? Nope it wasn't that close?
@@elliotspencer8129corruption would not allow that
You need to go listen to Shane Fury's interview where he says Fury is the greatest getter meaning when he's up against and everyone says he has no chance he'll perform at his best and beat anyone but his biggest weakness is when he's a champion and he's supposed beat a guy easily, he performs at his worst and stinks the place out. This is exactly what happened Fury.
Fury stunk the place out when he fought Klitschko.
@@rosiemason-rk4cm ur looney
@@rosiemason-rk4cmit was a masterclass performance against wlad if the gameplay was to box and not get hit because that's exactly what fury done....kinda like what Joshua is now trying to achieve and turn himself into a boxer that doesn't get hit and just wins the fight buy points and a knockout is a bonus
Sounds like the same thing they said when AJ lost to ruiz.. Fury always been overrated and handpicked his fighters
@@grockstait was a stinkfest
That mention of Paulie Malignaggi made me realize Fury basically had a "magic man" performance that night. And I mean the rough kind of Paulie's magic man fights wherein he took the decision despite taking the most damage and backing up for much of the fight.😅
If that Fury shows up against Usyk, he’ll announce his retirement after his loss.
Providing Fury's legs haven't gone & after watching the Ngannou fight who knows? Aside from that Fury's a rubbish Champion, when he's on a build up to become Champion he's really good, when he's defending Champion he's just shit. Will he get it together for Usyk, who knows? If he can't I wouldn't be surprised if Fury retired halfway through the training camp.
slimmest win of slightly corrupted judging, the crowd put novice francis as winner . Respect to his age , fitness ,a durable chin and a dangerous left thats an absolute power tool, LOST BUT NOT FORGOTTEN , gl in his few years left . 1 more money-spinning mega boxing only match up and a record breaking match up with john bones jones and you can retire a pretty rich fella
Regardless of the scorecard, the narrative has been set.
FFS uncle, you didn't even mention Furys' timing!! It was shite, he tried to set him up with the jab and when he threw the right, feck me, I could have dodged them!! He didn't take Enganajo seriously, it was obvious, in the last rounds when he needed big right he was too scared to throw it because of Negad, Nagar, oh bollocks anyway, because of his opponents counter.
Glad you bought it up, the pushing. And the way he pushes heads with his left and then hooks with his right. Hmmm. Refs need to step up massively and start deducting points. In my humble opinion Ngannou won that. Just. But he's not a boxer, so they were never gonna let him win. Best crossover fight I've seen so far.
If anyone thinks fury taken this fight serious at all you need to give ya heads a wobble, The guy probably didnt train serious at all, Completely underestimated ngannou. Furys a absolute tool.
I scored Francis winning by a point, but hard to call, People calling it a 'Robbery' are Fury haters nothing more, I dont like Fury, But i'm not delusional enough to call it a robbery.
Furys xfactor story will always make the judges say yes. If Francis knocked him out, he probably would have been disqualified for hitting above the neck lol
Greedy Belly was in camp for twelve weeks?! Feck me, I would be in better shape than that if I did a twelve week camp......and I am 64. No wonder Fury was hugging Francis so much.
I think IF the fight with Usyk does happen this could have been the best thing for Tyson.. a wake up call without consequences...
No more fucking around getting fat and and then trying the same straight one two.
Hopefully it happens and both fighters turn up primed and ready
Fury cheats, doesn’t train, bows out of fights, goes on benders and talks crap all the time. Why is he in the lime light still. Are we really this bored? Fury was at his best on fight night. This is how he fights. He’s got the ability, but we’ve never really seen it much.
I still think Francis knocked down Fury twice. The first time and the 2nd one where Fury tried to bulldoze in and caught a cheeky jab on his head.
Idk, I kinda dig the whole outcome of this super duper spectacle. It all had the same energy and spirit from the getgo, it was like the reflexion of the environment, not to say it was a clusterfuck of a show or anything, contrary it was enjoyable and it had its grotesque feel to it. When it comes to entertainment and milking the cow, nothing is better than getting soaked wet in milk with some good old fashion controversy.
Almost a Rocky story ?????? it was identical to Rocky 1. and I leave with a quote from Apollo, "I won but I didn't beat him".
Fury might be gifted, and possibly the best of his generation, but never truly had the CV to make that a fact. Now that he's been shown up by someone on their debut to boxing, I think we all need to question if Fury really ever has been that great.
Agree
Opinions divided???? C'mon lad, be honest an say it with your chest the predator won by a mile 🙄 propa fury fan boy is what ya should call yourself 🫡
As soon as I saw Fury get knocked down I just knew 100% that the clip would be replayed with a fart sound on this channel. 😂😂😂
In my opinion, it doesn't really matter about a point here and a point there, what matters is the overall performance of the fighters .For example a knockdown is scored higher than a few punches. Francis won the heart of the people and did better in this match (he was the aggressor)
It's always been this way in boxing ware politics will favor the champion, however in this case the champ did poorly.
Fury will never box with Francis Ngannu again, because next time is lights off....and we all know it. Ngannu is amazing.
Fury looked out of shape, even for him. Believing his own hype will be his downfall.
Im just glad people are waking up to Fury being one of the biggest hype jobs. He's only fought 2 real men, the mans a joke.
Please do a video addressing why they didn't do a post fight presser
It'd be a 5 second videos, it was sheer embarrassment.
Fury fan boys forget that Wilder aside (btw he cheated loads in the second fight) Fury has had a lot of snooze fests and not always been on his A game.
Yeah he's had a lot of terrible fights but I genuinely think his trilogy with Wilder was very entertaining heavyweight boxing but he's since ruined all that with his BS statements and refusal to take on decent fights. Well done to Ngannou getting a massive pay day instead of being ripped off by Dana.
He didn't cheat in the 2nd fight at all. Literally bettered Wilder from pillar to post in a fair fight. Hate the kid all you want but at least be honest.. Gloves were fine. Commission took them at the end of the fight, as they do in all title fights, with the wraps
What other cheating has been mentioned? Making Wilder rewrite the book on excuse making? Forcing a corner 2nd to throw a towel in mid round? Having the temerity to expose the biggest fraud to the HW division in 30 years who was gifted a blatant robbery decision in the 1st fight after winning only 2 rounds?
Pal, I can't stand Fury but, he didn't need to cheat Wilder to beat him. Beat him at 60% and beat him twice more at 100%.....egg shaped form!
5:20 Is this seriously an illegal move in boxing? Pushing the opponent? Asking for real, I don't follow boxing
Surely at this point in his career, the longer he leaves the fight with Usyk, the less chance of winning?
Tyson Fury's weight has finally caught up with him its slowing him down now he ain't no spring chicken anymore he needs to lose the weight or look a twat again if he doesn't
Fury has no business getting into the ring with Usyk in the state that he fought against Ngannou.
Hell in this state he wouldn't even beat old man klitschko.
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