Cause of the fire update. - At 11:15 A.M. today we responded to a call for a house fire on 19th Ave. A neighbor called to report the fire after seeing flames come out of the windows. When first responders arrived the house was engulfed. The fire was apparently caused by one of the dogs knocking over a candle. Both dogs were safe and there were no injuries from the fire or from firefighting efforts. Officers and Fire Fighters acted quickly, notifying JCP&L, NJNG, the school buses and the building department, and ensuring a safe perimeter around the scene. Laurelton, Herbertsville, Breton Woods and Pioneer Hose fire companies all responded and after two hours the fire was under control. Additionally, the Brick Township Fire Bureau and the Point Boro FAST team responded to assist with the investigation and administration of the scene, and our EMTs were there to provide emergency medical support, which was thankfully not needed. Chief Forrester would like to thank all the responders who helped get a dangerous situation under control and commend everyone on a job well done.
I am glad the dogs were able to get out and are safe. I know about candles. My ex wife had one burning in a glass jar and it burned to low causing the jar to explode and fire caught the curtains on fire. I keep 3 PKP 30 lb fire extinguishers in my house at all times. That's what saved my house. Yes I had to have my house cleaned professionally but it's cheaper than watching my house burn down.
@@patrickhorner5887 those first 2 on scene ( chief and the Grey hair) should gave rolled the closest Engine at that time of day, and at least dumped the monitor in that bedroom. May have bought enough time for the first attack crew to get there and make entry. 🤷♂️
@@brianburke6350 After the first engine arrived, I wouldn't say it took very long to get water, only about a minute which is fairly decent. But it seems odd to me that all these chiefs, etc show up & it takes them that long to get an engine out there. They need professional staffing, this seems kinda like a clown show. Too many chiefs, not enough Indians.
@@jerseyshorefireresponse I mite know where to get on, or you can look around for a used one...it was over my 10 min mark before water was put on the Fire..
As a 26 year veteran of the fire service this is extremely difficult and painful too watch!!! The lack of communication, professionalism, and response time really showed in this video. A 15+ minute response time even in a volunteer department within a urban environment is totally unacceptable. That house could have possibly been saved if they had got on scene and had some urgency on getting water on the fire. Yes I know the fire was chasing through the attic.
Dude, you know, given your 26 years in the fire service that from the moment the camera hit the scene that for any fire department that house was a goner. Yes it is frustrating but NFPA guidelines is 10 minutes from dispatch to rolling out the first truck. Then that truck has to get to the scene. We have no idea the traffic challenges for the firefighters faced in route. So yes the house was going to be a total loss, doesn't mean we let it burn though. That is my problem there seemed to be a bit of malaise. I personally would have liked to see a little more snap in the response and I don't understand why the first in didn't hit the hydrant on the way in, that is what I would have ordered and I would have hit each room in secession with a 2 1/2 for a knockdown I mean the first hose team attempted an interior that wasn't going to happen. I'm a volunteer in a rural area we probably would have been faster on scene but we are not hanging out at the firehouse waiting for the call we have other things going on I doubt those complaining about volunteers would be very happy for the massive increase in their taxes if they had to pay for their fire protection.
Volunteer response time is usually slower especially during the day when they are working their main job. They gotta leave work and get to the firehouse which can be slow because they gotta sit in traffic. Volleys here just get a blue light on the dash no sirens so people dont move for them
@@thomaschew2191 still need to get an engine on scene quicler, ksut because the home was a goner as you call it, dude you still have to put the fire out and protect exposures, no excuse why the engine response could not have been quicker geeezzz
@@Scoobawoo its slower when you have to sit and wait on personnel but on this fire you had at 3 or 4 fire personnel on scene before an engine they should have left out of the fire station sooner
Highly populated urban area. Why is there not a fully staffed and paid professional fire department? No way would I feel safe living in an area like this. This community deserves better.
As a retired FF, we always arrived on scene completely suited up and ready to go. We were really out of sorts if we did not have water flowing within minutes. Volunteer all the way and our response time was always quick and efficient. will have to digest what i see here and wonder where the training went...if any
@derrickharvey295, same here. I don't get it. If you hear a working fire, gear up on the way. By the time you get there, unless the fire is around the corner from the firehouse , you should be ready to go to work when you arrive.
@@jerseyshorefireresponse Well that's their own dumbass fault then for leaving a candle burning while you're not home - especially with animals roaming around.
I'm sure the lady is thrilled about the speedy response of the camera brigade. It's amazing how disorganized this was considering the brass was there like 15 minutes prior to everyone else.
Embarrassing 100% who the hell takes a chainsaw and opens up the outside of a house like that waste of time. They need to get inside and pull the rest of the ceiling to get the fire out this is absurd
These guys are the best foundation savers on all of RUclips, video after video taking 5min or more to get at least 1 line in service. Excellent work fellas
Some of the highest property taxes in the nation. Close to a million dollars worth of Suburbans, Expeditions and Explorers showed up before a fire truck. The property owner should have told them to get lost, let what's left burn.
@@johndavis6119 i don't know what's with my town, the FF's must be really obsessed, and all work in town. They are quite quick to show up, and get water on quickly. One of them is my neighbor across the street, and there is a station around the corner, plus 3 others all within the town of 10k people. All volunteers. A total opposite of the rural place I used to live, where an ambulance took 30 mins and 2 calls to 911. Like how long would the FD take to get there? Station was 15 mins away, maybe 10 in a fire engine- some winding roads), but was volunteer.
I spent 35yrs as a volunteer working my way to Asst Chief... aside from the obvious, (response times, lack of urgency to get water on fire, lack of communication from command to 1st arriving, lack of donned SCBA and the ready position. etc) . i want to address the first arriving FC Officers that stood around and did nothing but point! As i heard the pump operator give his countdown of water supply left, 3/4, 1/2, 1/4,,,,,,,,,, and the camera panned to see that the supply line was still on the engine!!! why didnt they meet that engine and assist with deploying a supply line??? why didn't the IC relay to the engine, the plug location so they could hit it on the way in?? why open a deck gun and hit the roof top?? make the D side window a door and flow up under the roof with a 2 1/2!! so many variables happen here!!
The response time of a fire truck was crazy just crazy, you had fire personnel onscene without a engine for a good while before an engine ever decided to show up
Evidently there is no SOP in this department. You can't fight a fire with no trucks and water. The Chief should have radioed in that he is on the scene and all responders report to the fire department so they can man and roll trucks. Doesn't work when your chauffeurs are waiting around a structure burning to the ground. Just a super poor execution.
Volunteer departments. That's the reason That at the first dispatch they dispatched four stations. Aka 4 different departments. First personnel on scene responded direct in their personal vehicles. Fire trucks are useless if you have no driver.
Staggered to see how long it took for first fire engine to arrive. Why didn't neighbours respond with hoses much earlier? A smaller tanker arriving much faster might have delayed the final engulfment of the entire house till the larger units arrived.
First of all, no matter how much you care about your neighbors and their homes, you should ALWAYS wait for the professionals to arrive! If you were to get trapped or burned somehow now the first responders have to not only put out a fire, but save your dumbass as well. Second, a house fire causes A LOT of heat! You can't just walk up to a fire that big and put some dinky little hose on it. I can bet you the camera guy could even feel the heat from where he was standing and that was quite a few feet away. Never go wandering around a house fire thinking you can do anything about a house that is burning that badly. Leave it to people who are TRAINED to do so.
@@whimsygrove9971 I mean I know a guy whose house (and wife sleeping inside) was saved by neighbors noticing the smoke and rushing inside with water buckets and extinguishers.
It’s crazy watching this fire start in a bedroom then quickly consume this entire house . I never take shots at any 2departments but this fire response was really really bad . This fire should have never gotten past the original room of origin . 12 mins and still no apparatus on location . If this fire had a life hazard or even a exposure problem it wouldn’t have ended well . I completely understand that volunteer departments have a tough time getting trucks on the street at different points of the day , but if it’s this bad the chief of this department needs to really sit down and adjust the alarms and who he has responding on dwelling/building fires . From 6am to 6pm they should add more departments on the initial response . Maybe even run a full second alarm during their slowest hours . This is completely unacceptable. Maybe the people who live in this town need to attend a town meeting and voice their concerns. Something has to change here
I think perhaps Brick Township has grown too big to have an all-volunteer FD. If they were a combination dept. at least a couple of rigs might have reached the scene in reasonable time.
This was so painful to watch. I was a volunteer ff for a long time when I was young and the response time for equipment on scene was disgraceful. This was a disorganized mess. My heartfelt sympathy to this poor lady.
I lost count of how many FD cars were on the scene but if they staffed an Engine Company with even half of those guys they'd have better luck getting water on the fire instead of standing around watching it burn. Priorities in operations make a difference.
It seems like an eternity for first due engine when you’re watching fire progress like that. But if this is volunteer dept, the tones drop at random drop of a dime and people then have to drop what their doing , race to the station witch easily can be atleast a 5 minute car ride “ if not longer” , get to station, gear up and roll and engine to a house that maybe over 5 to 10 minutes away easily.. so the ten minute response time is realistic unfortunately , we’re all racing to be there as fast as we can but we can’t save everything. It’s quite a challenge, time commitment and risk to be in the fire service. Also majority work regular jobs in daytime leaving some stations with only a single or few firefighters to respond. Please , we’re all short staffed , go to your local firehouse today and grab an application!
You did a great job covering this " cluster *%#@. I can't add anything to the notes Greg left. I was a volunteer from 1976 until 2006. we had some long halls to the edge of our first due, but we never had a response time like this. Keep up the good work. Your videos put me right on the fireground with you. God Bless...
At 22:13, a Chief is having a conversation while laughing. This was no place to be having a friendly conversation while laughing as a female stood by distraught watching her house become a total loss.
@@Floridabruce1960U.K. fire fighters put these guys to shame, water is on usually in less than a minute of arrival, and crews are suited and booted on route , apart from the driver…..
Thank God the dog was safe and the poor lady, it brought tears to my eyes when the lady was asking where the fire brigade were, a friend of mine lost his house to a fire, and every one got out of the but his poor little dogs went back into the house and died.
I spent 20 years as a volunteer. In my department you needed to be able to drive the engine before being eligible to be an officer and the first and second officers to sign on determined right away who was closest to the firehouse and then used his lights/siren to go to get the first engine rolling. Volunteers only had a simple blue light so traffic was often an issue. If a volly driver got the rig rolling first then the officer changed direction or continued to get a second rig rolling as needed. It was all about communication. Always get a rig on the road asap. Of course Jersey traffic may well have contributed to the long response.
I live in a super rural part of northern Michigan with a volunteer fire department covering an ENTIRE COUNTY. The average response from tones to water on fire is 7 minutes. That’s 3 fire houses in one department covering 360 square miles and they have a better response time. This departments response is shameful and should be addressed by the state. Just awful
Unbelievable. A simple room & contents goes to a surround and drown before any water is on the fire. A full 20 minutes in and the original room is still fully involved. Well, it’s good that their perfect foundation save record is still good. Never seen so many white helmets in all my life!! Was there a chiefs convention nearby or something??
It might be time to start trading in the fancy Chief vehicles for a mini-pumper as the Chief response vehicle. It would be more practical and at least would guarantee water on scene (at least temporarily)
@@RLTtizME Probably not in this case… but if you look at departments that actively get water into the fire instantly, they have much better outcomes. I posted one such department on my community post the other day. They get consistent results with just one pump operator, one on nozzle and one advancing hose.
My biggest Question is why the First in Engine didn't grab the hydrant, if you listen to the radio traffic, multiple units were asked to grab the hydrant and in the end they Hand Jacked it anyway, Ive worked in Rural Voly and Class 1 Departments and this just seemed to be a cluster
I feel for the homeowner. Had they had an engine there in the first 4 or 5 minutes, they could have saved the house. As it is, total loss. Of course, you don't know how long the fire was burning before someone called 911- all the more reason to have fire systems in the house that automatically notify. Sad situation. Hopefully insurance takes care of them. Glad no one got hurt. Things can be replaced, lives can't.
I was a volunteer for a small Department that had staffing problems on the day shift. The full-time Chief would sometimes show up by himself and start fighting the fire until other personnel and mutual aid arrived. Much better than those guys standing around.
1 guy could have did that with a deck gun. Hit the brakes. Put the truck in pump gear, Flip the PTO switch, Open the tank to pump valve and prime. open deck gun valve or pull a booster or a cross-lay = 2 minutes. Dump the tank. 2nd to arrive, hit a hydrant or hook to 1st due to boost. There I told you how to do it next time. Practice this on training night make a contest to see which truck can be the fastest. It might take you 3 minutes but not 10-15. And if you are not driving put the gear on while on the way. If you are driving you don't need gear just pump.
Just so everyones aware Brick Township FD is 100% all volunteer, there was one chief for brick that responded. The other fire officers are Brick Township Fire Marshalls, all they carry is packs and turnout gear. (3) of them arrived before the first due engine cause they happen to be in the area. 2471 is the nearest engine but due to members being spread out across the town this day they got the engine out slower then normal. Also this fire went into Monmouth County dispatch first so there was least a 5 min delay from them to Brick Township getting the info and dispatching their units.
How many Fire Marshalls/inspectors does brick have? Maybe it’s time to have them work as a crew utilizing a mini pumper or two, or even an engine rather than individually with an SUV. That would allow for a staffed engine to be available at all times during the work day. It works in plenty of other places.
I also heard "Emergency Management" call on radio they were responding. OEM in NJ is not a response element, nor is it anywhere, but people do it anyway despite training. The Head is the Emergency Management Coordinator, COORDINATOR. Even if the argument was made they responded to coordinate... That's the On Scene Commander, aka Fire Chief's role. SMH
Emergency Management’s role varies in different locations. In my area the HazMat team, the training academy, the 911 dispatch center, the department of corrections, department of youth services, Mutual Aid Coordinators and Large scale EMS task forces are all under the direction of Emergency Management. Emergency Management is dispatched on all structure fires and significant incidents (mass casualties, tech rescue, active shooter, etc) Most members belong to various organizations as FFs and EMTs. Many times when members of Emergency Management respond, some will become directly involved with the firefight or rescue operation as needed while others will carry out the traditional Coordination roles.
I'm so happy those dogs are safe, and that those officers rescued them.. one of my biggest worries is my girl not getting rescued if our house ever goes up
You would think this was the first fire that they were called to. My department always showed up geared up ,masked up and ready to go. All I can say is one word…TRAINING!,, it works
Exactly! EVERY Chief or officer that has a department vehicle does not need to respond directly to the scene. Common sense should prevail that when one or two other chiefs are responding but no apparatus is in service or responding then go to your respective station and ensure the rig gets out. If the rig leaves before the chief gets there, then he/she can resume responding to the scene. It’s all very simple. All it takes is some common sense thinking.
@hockey4370 that's ture for some states. But others require engineers to have a CDL. But still not every firefighter is not a Engineer. So if you don't know how to drive or operated the engine what good is it.
Because the initial plan was to do an interior attack. The conditions in the structure made the fire get out of control within minutes and they had to go exterior only.
@@graceangel5146 Which is beyond stupid. All that door and window access and they go inside? They got driven right back out and didn't make a dent if the entry fire.
The excessive response time and lack of motivation and hustle in these guys makes my local fire department look like super stars (which they are). Volunteer or not these guys need some serious training. Been a first responder myself and I would’ve been fired numerous times over had I moved this slow on scene.
This puts into perspective the waiting time before water starts to flow on the fire. It seems an eternity but how fast that fire moved through that house! Scary footage! Get your loved ones out and rebuild.
Response time to this fire was painfully slow. How is that possible? Respect to firefighters, always, how it took so long to get at this fire, I don’t understand.
@@jerseyshorefireresponse Brandweer Lunteren is a channel with only volunteers, they have a normal job, and have water on the fire at 4 minutes after the first call.
I'm a little late to comment on this post so I think the issue with response time and urgency has been covered. I'm not a firefighter so I do want to ask why they felt the need to chainsaw the exterior walls to expand the window openings...after the bulk of the fire had been knocked down(?).
Better access for water to that part of the fire. The house is already well past the point where it will have to be demolished anyway, so cutting a new hole isn't going to make it worse.
Two thumbs up Greg! It does prove an important point. I was reading an article where a contractor was trying to dispell the 7 minute escape time once a smoke detector is tripped. Watching the time line on this video, it would have been difficult for anyone to get out at the 5 minute mark. At 10 minutes this place was fully involved. Contractors need to watch this video and take a lesson!
You can't use a deck gun without an adequate water supply. Unfortunately, establishing a water supply ( hydrant ) is always an after thought in Brick Twp. Early on, there were a couple of requests from responding apparatus asking for a hydrant location. Each request was answered with a location, and yet. no one drove to the location and dropped at that hydrant on the way in. That causes further delay because now a labor intensive back stretch by hand is needed. Apparatus placement horrible , as usual. The first due pumper should NEVER take the spot directly in front of the structure. Either stopping short or passing the fire building allows for deploying handlines without the spaghetti hose mess on the front lawn that everyone keeps tripping over. The front of the structure is for a Ladder Company and Rescue Company if there is one !!! They have all of the special tools and equipment for forcible entry, vertical and horizontal venting, search, rescue, utility control, aerial stream, ETC. Career Fire Departments typically have the first 2 or 3 pumpers all drop at a hydrant , each arriving from different directions. This ensures a decent water supply early on, rather than playing catch up with the fire.
@@AB-NJ the deck hun is a very useful tool for fully involved fires. That’s being said it’s very destructive but like Carl said the deck gun uses ALOT of water very quick
It was at approximately the 10:03 mark from the start of the video, the first fire engine/truck could be seen. At the 11:39 mark it seemed water was first employed. The firefighters worked very well together. Very quick getting water onto the fire. The problem was the response time to the fire. If this department is volunteer, the local government needs to get a full time fire department. 10 MINUTES in a fire, is an eternity.
If you won’t pay for career response times, then you should expect to get volunteer responses…no knock on these guys, but people want a 3 min response time but aren’t willing to pay for it…the consequences are predictable.
This is the first fire that I've watched where there are suited up firemen walking around, and no fire engines on scene! I can hear the Chief asking,"where's my first engine?"
Well I guess it's safe to say that this is the reason why candles should NOT be left unattended and I'm sure the fire marshal would agree with me on that. As someone who knows about fire safety, ALWAYS extinguish candles before leaving the house or before going to bed at night. DO NOT leave lit candles unattended.
@@RLTtizME it’s just something that I wanted to mention as I couldn’t stress enough to say. That’s all. And I also happen to have a dad who is a former firefighter. He retired not too long ago
As a volunteer it was sad to see no one was really ready to battle the fire. The lax of just taking ur time to suit up and no lines in the ground to battle exterior while someone was suiting up with a interior line waiting
The chief gave micro signals to crew - all lost - told them to back up and then...well you saw it crew showed and knew they could move slower - chief already signaling surround and drown a bedroom candle fire. starts at the top I am afraid.
Everything is fucking destroyed. Holy shit, where is the fucking fire department?! What the hell is even the point of putting it out by time they got there? Jfc.
Crazy how long it took them to actually put water on the fire?! They got nice pretty trucks and lots of firemen wandering around not doing anything, why did it take them so long to turn water on? It's so ridiculous we all thought it was a training house fire that they just let burn? I feel very sad for homeowner😢
@@jones8072they ain’t rescuing anything from that structure, those huge rescue rigs are a waste of money for these types of departments. They think they’re the FDNY. Sure the look good at the pancake breakfasts all shined up, but they’re virtually useless when the shit hits the fan. All the gear and no idea.
@@jones8072 Then that should have not been the first truck. You can protect victims faster by eliminating the threat with tank water than you can by finding and removing them.
@@JB91710 well obviously it would be best to have the first truck arrive have water but that truck may have been coming back from another call or at a different station or any other amount of factors
I'm absolutely dismayed at the amount of time it took for water to be put in this fire? I know the house was going to be a complete loss however, the home owner or renter doesn't know this and expects that someone, mainly a fire department will be responding quickly and water will be put on the fire in a timely manner? I find it amazing you had numerous command staff from different agencies arrive on scene fairly quickly, however it took well over 10 minutes before a working fire apparatus arrived, and even then it took a long time for water? In a city this large, it seems very odd that response time was so long? Sorry to be critical, but this video showed some serious problems?
Thanks for posting. You always put yourself out there when you do. Long response times now days mean the house is gone, but with current home furnishings they go pretty fast anyway. Even after that house was burning 10 minutes its probably a total loss anyway. It was good no one one trapped inside. I found the video educational as far as how the fire progressed and when the structure was too weakened to be safe. it is just a fact that it is harder to retain volunteers, and a day time may find your staff unavailable. The general public in a volunteer area need to realize what their local department is capable of and if they want faster service then they will have to find the money to have staffed fire houses. Cheers.
Glad no one was home at the time, and that their dog was rescued. Boy that fire was really blowing out those windows, when the video started. Thank you to all firefighters everywhere for protecting the citizens of your coverage area.
Unfortunately this fire was interrupting the fire department coffee break. Took them a good hour to figure out that they needed to put water on the fire. By the time they figured it out the loss was total! Have to get permission from the Planning Commission to decide if they can put the fire out! I would be ashamed to show my face if I was on that fire call. Absolutely pathetic!!
@golferpro1241 that's not true because of that were the case the fire truck would have been on scene I n 5mins. Volunteers drive the truck but you have to wait for a minimum of 2 to 3 before you leave
Hopefully they can use this as a training video on what NOT to do at a fire. Glad I don’t live anywhere near this town! The whole department should be retrained.
THIS ENTIRE VIDEO IS AN EYE OPENER FOR ALL EMERGENCY RESPONDERS, NOT JUST P.D. From the comments below on other emergency services in that area, sounds like the entire County needs new management. 30mins is unacceptable for an Ambulance to get to the address.
EMS is not an essential service in about 46 out of the 50 states in the USA. So no you don’t get an ambulance if one is not available. EMS has been yelling from the roof tops about how bad it is but no one listens. Many are leaving the field of work because of crappy hours, crappy pay and benefits. My old partner drives a box truck and brings home about 600 dollars more every two weeks then I do as a paramedic so….
Let's stop and hope everyone is doing ok right let' honor and appreciate the paramedics and firemen who proudly serve us your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated thanks great job great team work and great and sweet catches as usual still going strong great team efforts are deeply appreciated thanks to everyone who responds and is involved stay safe and warm out much love and respect and appreciation job well done you should be amazed and proud way to go !! Joe 😅😅😊😊
I can kind of understand that lady's anxiety when she kept asking where the fire department was. I was involved in a fire a little over two years ago. I live in a mobile Home Park and two houses down a fire started and it burnt his place down and it burnt my neighbors down and another 60 seconds more and mine would have been up in flames but the fire department got there just in time... I just had some minor heat damage thankfully
To play devils advocate, you can't really complain when you aren't willing to pay for a professional paid dept for coverage. I do agree with you that it's sad to see but also, this community gets what it pays for
I’m guessing across the US many people don’t realize that small towns, villages & rural areas are supported by volunteers. Most volunteers have full time jobs or other duties. In order for an engine to respond to a call you need someone at or near the firehouse, who is certified to operate that vehicle, to respond to the call. In today’s society there are just not enough volunteers. To be involved as a fireman, you need training & that never ends. It is a huge commitment. In our area, mutual aid is often utilized, as appears it did here, but the response time is that much longer. More need to be willing to volunteer, if they are physically able to do the job. Here those who can’t do the job any longer, due to age &/or injury, still are utilized in tasks like directing traffic away from the scene. More effort needs to be put into getting the younger generations involved. This is not a job just for the guys, gals can do it as well. Support your local department, both financially & with your time. Can the town support even just a driver for at least one truck to respond? This could be your house. What would the response time be if you had a fire in your home? Have fire extinguishers handy & make sure they are full. Fire detectors should be functioning. Take precautions in the home. Thank you all who are first responders!
I'm going to be controversial and say there is actually a lot to like here. The elephant in the room is of course response time for the first engine, but that is a function of staffing and geography and I really can't speak to it. In my very rural district there are more than a few places that we would have no chance if reaching in less than 15 minutes at the best of times. This looks more suburban, but for all we know it may be the house furthest from the station. Once the engine arrived on scene, it was 1:07 from airbrake to flowing water, and that is pretty damn good. Crews were masked up at the door when they got water and got a quick knockdown. I am also glad to see they used their tank water rather than waiting for a supply to start fighting fire. It wasn't enough to knock down the whole house, but still took a lot of the energy out of the fire. Once they had a decent water supply (which took stretching several blocks by the sound of it) they put several lines in service and killed it. Love the purple hose BTW All in all I've seen a lot worse.
Maybe one of those chiefs should try going to a firehouse and getting a rig on the street instead of rushing to the scene in a chase car only to stand around for 10 minutes waiting for a suppression unit.
What was a bedroom fire. When the services was called and when they finally turn up the house is nearly burned down very very slow and very poor fire service
My brother-in-law is a FD lieutenant in a CT town a lot smaller than this one. It's mostly a volunteer department but there's always someone in the firehouse 24/7 to get the apparatus to the fire scene immediately when a call comes and where the volunteers will muster as well. This response time was almost rural.
Glad that no one was home and that PD was able to get the dog away from the house and to safety. Thank you to all firefighters everywhere for protecting the citizens of your coverage area.
New Jersey loves to tax hike everyone why don’t they staff paid in with the volunteers. I mean the residents deserve it since they can pay up to 15k+ just in property taxes each year. Unbelievable!
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Cause of the fire update. - At 11:15 A.M. today we responded to a call for a house fire on 19th Ave. A neighbor called to report the fire after seeing flames come out of the windows. When first responders arrived the house was engulfed.
The fire was apparently caused by one of the dogs knocking over a candle. Both dogs were safe and there were no injuries from the fire or from firefighting efforts. Officers and Fire Fighters acted quickly, notifying JCP&L, NJNG, the school buses and the building department, and ensuring a safe perimeter around the scene.
Laurelton, Herbertsville, Breton Woods and Pioneer Hose fire companies all responded and after two hours the fire was under control. Additionally, the Brick Township Fire Bureau and the Point Boro FAST team responded to assist with the investigation and administration of the scene, and our EMTs were there to provide emergency medical support, which was thankfully not needed.
Chief Forrester would like to thank all the responders who helped get a dangerous situation under control and commend everyone on a job well done.
This is why you don't leave candles burning if you're not going to be around
I am glad the dogs were able to get out and are safe. I know about candles. My ex wife had one burning in a glass jar and it burned to low causing the jar to explode and fire caught the curtains on fire. I keep 3 PKP 30 lb fire extinguishers in my house at all times. That's what saved my house. Yes I had to have my house cleaned professionally but it's cheaper than watching my house burn down.
I'm glad that the dogs are okay!
Okay, asked answered. I am glad that there wasn't anyone hurt. Love from Marysville, California
@@Rick-mg1nv Why do you NEED candles - period?
Pro Tip: Studies have shown that putting water on a fire helps to put it out.
To many chiefs w/vehicles and not enough engines!
@@patrickhorner5887 those first 2 on scene ( chief and the Grey hair) should gave rolled the closest Engine at that time of day, and at least dumped the monitor in that bedroom. May have bought enough time for the first attack crew to get there and make entry. 🤷♂️
Did the guy next door lose his camper?
lies
@@patrickhorner5887 I noticed that too. If more than 1 Chief shows up, that probably means there are two too many.
For a community of over 70,000 people to not have a full-time staffed and professional fire department is incredibly insane and embarrassing.
Best comment so far.. that response time is offensive
I completely agree with you.
Holy crap did it have to take so long to get water on that structure? Wow!!!
@@brianburke6350 After the first engine arrived, I wouldn't say it took very long to get water, only about a minute which is fairly decent. But it seems odd to me that all these chiefs, etc show up & it takes them that long to get an engine out there. They need professional staffing, this seems kinda like a clown show. Too many chiefs, not enough Indians.
@@justanotherguy1110 well it all about the taxes payers and probably dont have that many fires to have a full time staff pretty much that now it works
The photographer should have a fire truck park at is place 24/7. He is way faster than the fire department.
if you guys wanna buy me a mini pumper ill have no issue driving it around ha!
@@jerseyshorefireresponseyou deserve one💯💯💯
@@jerseyshorefireresponse how could you be so much faster then the fire department ?
@@jerseyshorefireresponse I mite know where to get on, or you can look around for a used one...it was over my 10 min mark before water was put on the Fire..
write a fire grant to OEM, get NARCAN AND BUILD YOUR PERSONAL KIT IN MEAN TIME
As a 26 year veteran of the fire service this is extremely difficult and painful too watch!!! The lack of communication, professionalism, and response time really showed in this video. A 15+ minute response time even in a volunteer department within a urban environment is totally unacceptable. That house could have possibly been saved if they had got on scene and had some urgency on getting water on the fire. Yes I know the fire was chasing through the attic.
Dude, you know, given your 26 years in the fire service that from the moment the camera hit the scene that for any fire department that house was a goner. Yes it is frustrating but NFPA guidelines is 10 minutes from dispatch to rolling out the first truck. Then that truck has to get to the scene. We have no idea the traffic challenges for the firefighters faced in route.
So yes the house was going to be a total loss, doesn't mean we let it burn though. That is my problem there seemed to be a bit of malaise. I personally would have liked to see a little more snap in the response and I don't understand why the first in didn't hit the hydrant on the way in, that is what I would have ordered and I would have hit each room in secession with a 2 1/2 for a knockdown I mean the first hose team attempted an interior that wasn't going to happen.
I'm a volunteer in a rural area we probably would have been faster on scene but we are not hanging out at the firehouse waiting for the call we have other things going on I doubt those complaining about volunteers would be very happy for the massive increase in their taxes if they had to pay for their fire protection.
Volunteer response time is usually slower especially during the day when they are working their main job. They gotta leave work and get to the firehouse which can be slow because they gotta sit in traffic. Volleys here just get a blue light on the dash no sirens so people dont move for them
28 years and i completely agree
@@thomaschew2191 still need to get an engine on scene quicler, ksut because the home was a goner as you call it, dude you still have to put the fire out and protect exposures, no excuse why the engine response could not have been quicker geeezzz
@@Scoobawoo its slower when you have to sit and wait on personnel but on this fire you had at 3 or 4 fire personnel on scene before an engine they should have left out of the fire station sooner
Highly populated urban area. Why is there not a fully staffed and paid professional fire department? No way would I feel safe living in an area like this. This community deserves better.
wonder what the taxes are there? Its NJ so..............adding a FT FD? not int he budget unless everyone pays thousands more.
As a retired FF, we always arrived on scene completely suited up and ready to go. We were really out of sorts if we did not have water flowing within minutes. Volunteer all the way and our response time was always quick and efficient. will have to digest what i see here and wonder where the training went...if any
@derrickharvey295
Youve never worked a fire in your life
Apparently they were sent Brooklyn
@derrickharvey295, same here. I don't get it. If you hear a working fire, gear up on the way. By the time you get there, unless the fire is around the corner from the firehouse , you should be ready to go to work when you arrive.
@@gregggoss2210
Another phony has arrived 🤣
Please post some super 8 movies of your Department so that we can criticize it.
Absolutely disgraceful. Just the response time in a community that is certainly not even semi rural is unacceptable.
I have never seen such a slow response to putting out a fire. Makes us greatfull to have such a great service in the uk..
That poor woman lost everything. I am so sorry, my heart goes out to you and your family.
😮💨😓🙏
not sure if that was the homeowner or not they were reported to not be home.
@@jerseyshorefireresponse Well that's their own dumbass fault then for leaving a candle burning while you're not home - especially with animals roaming around.
@@timweis3265 exactly
I wonder if there will be a Go Fund Me, if so, I'm in!!!!!
I'm sure the lady is thrilled about the speedy response of the camera brigade. It's amazing how disorganized this was considering the brass was there like 15 minutes prior to everyone else.
I'm sure she realizes water damages more than the fire itself.
Embarrassing 100% who the hell takes a chainsaw and opens up the outside of a house like that waste of time. They need to get inside and pull the rest of the ceiling to get the fire out this is absurd
@@trevormortensen3212 Probably people who know more about their job and the best way to doing it.
Welcome to the east coast. Very brass heavy in all public sectors. Criminal
Too many Chiefs (Chefs) spoil the Broth, eh?
These guys are the best foundation savers on all of RUclips, video after video taking 5min or more to get at least 1 line in service. Excellent work fellas
LOL, made me laugh out loud.
Suburbia and small town America are great places to live, until your house catches fire.
Some of the highest property taxes in the nation. Close to a million dollars worth of Suburbans, Expeditions and Explorers showed up before a fire truck. The property owner should have told them to get lost, let what's left burn.
@@johndavis6119 i don't know what's with my town, the FF's must be really obsessed, and all work in town. They are quite quick to show up, and get water on quickly. One of them is my neighbor across the street, and there is a station around the corner, plus 3 others all within the town of 10k people. All volunteers. A total opposite of the rural place I used to live, where an ambulance took 30 mins and 2 calls to 911. Like how long would the FD take to get there? Station was 15 mins away, maybe 10 in a fire engine- some winding roads), but was volunteer.
Can't believe it takes soooooo long for 1 truck to get there and then they just look at the fire!!
I spent 35yrs as a volunteer working my way to Asst Chief... aside from the obvious, (response times, lack of urgency to get water on fire, lack of communication from command to 1st arriving, lack of donned SCBA and the ready position. etc) . i want to address the first arriving FC Officers that stood around and did nothing but point! As i heard the pump operator give his countdown of water supply left, 3/4, 1/2, 1/4,,,,,,,,,, and the camera panned to see that the supply line was still on the engine!!! why didnt they meet that engine and assist with deploying a supply line??? why didn't the IC relay to the engine, the plug location so they could hit it on the way in?? why open a deck gun and hit the roof top?? make the D side window a door and flow up under the roof with a 2 1/2!! so many variables happen here!!
I was a volunteer for 10 years. You covered all that I was thinking.
1st in was told early on to catch the hydrant.
The response time of a fire truck was crazy just crazy, you had fire personnel onscene without a engine for a good while before an engine ever decided to show up
Evidently there is no SOP in this department. You can't fight a fire with no trucks and water. The Chief should have radioed in that he is on the scene and all responders report to the fire department so they can man and roll trucks. Doesn't work when your chauffeurs are waiting around a structure burning to the ground. Just a super poor execution.
@@Backnine907 cops got there first and relayed there was visible fire. So the fire department should have gotten the info
@@Backnine907 Too many Chiefs (vehicles) not enough Indians (Indigenous) sorry ,
Volunteer departments. That's the reason That at the first dispatch they dispatched four stations. Aka 4 different departments. First personnel on scene responded direct in their personal vehicles. Fire trucks are useless if you have no driver.
@@johnlang150 You’re forgiven this time bucky boy. Next time there’s a charge.
Staggered to see how long it took for first fire engine to arrive. Why didn't neighbours respond with hoses much earlier? A smaller tanker arriving much faster might have delayed the final engulfment of the entire house till the larger units arrived.
First of all, no matter how much you care about your neighbors and their homes, you should ALWAYS wait for the professionals to arrive! If you were to get trapped or burned somehow now the first responders have to not only put out a fire, but save your dumbass as well.
Second, a house fire causes A LOT of heat! You can't just walk up to a fire that big and put some dinky little hose on it. I can bet you the camera guy could even feel the heat from where he was standing and that was quite a few feet away.
Never go wandering around a house fire thinking you can do anything about a house that is burning that badly. Leave it to people who are TRAINED to do so.
@@whimsygrove9971 I mean I know a guy whose house (and wife sleeping inside) was saved by neighbors noticing the smoke and rushing inside with water buckets and extinguishers.
As a 24yr. vet.they so slow putting out this fire.
That’s what I thought too 😂
I was waiting for the firefighters to break out the marshmallows.. its as if they were enjoying watching it go up..
It’s crazy watching this fire start in a bedroom then quickly consume this entire house . I never take shots at any 2departments but this fire response was really really bad . This fire should have never gotten past the original room of origin . 12 mins and still no apparatus on location . If this fire had a life hazard or even a exposure problem it wouldn’t have ended well . I completely understand that volunteer departments have a tough time getting trucks on the street at different points of the day , but if it’s this bad the chief of this department needs to really sit down and adjust the alarms and who he has responding on dwelling/building fires . From 6am to 6pm they should add more departments on the initial response . Maybe even run a full second alarm during their slowest hours . This is completely unacceptable. Maybe the people who live in this town need to attend a town meeting and voice their concerns. Something has to change here
Never burn candles if you have pets! If it can be knocked over they will.. Sorry for the loss of your home.
I think perhaps Brick Township has grown too big to have an all-volunteer FD. If they were a combination dept. at least a couple of rigs might have reached the scene in reasonable time.
This was so painful to watch. I was a volunteer ff for a long time when I was young and the response time for equipment on scene was disgraceful. This was a disorganized mess. My heartfelt sympathy to this poor lady.
I lost count of how many FD cars were on the scene but if they staffed an Engine Company with even half of those guys they'd have better luck getting water on the fire instead of standing around watching it burn. Priorities in operations make a difference.
Fire department response time??? Totally unacceptable !
You obviously speak without knowing any of the facts.
It seems like an eternity for first due engine when you’re watching fire progress like that. But if this is volunteer dept, the tones drop at random drop of a dime and people then have to drop what their doing , race to the station witch easily can be atleast a 5 minute car ride “ if not longer” , get to station, gear up and roll and engine to a house that maybe over 5 to 10 minutes away easily.. so the ten minute response time is realistic unfortunately , we’re all racing to be there as fast as we can but we can’t save everything. It’s quite a challenge, time commitment and risk to be in the fire service. Also majority work regular jobs in daytime leaving some stations with only a single or few firefighters to respond. Please , we’re all short staffed , go to your local firehouse today and grab an application!
The driver was lost
You did a great job covering this " cluster *%#@. I can't add anything to the notes Greg left. I was a volunteer from 1976 until 2006. we had some long halls to the edge of our first due, but we never had a response time like this. Keep up the good work. Your videos put me right on the fireground with you. God Bless...
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At 22:13, a Chief is having a conversation while laughing. This was no place to be having a friendly conversation while laughing as a female stood by distraught watching her house become a total loss.
It’s always heart breaking to watch the structures become totally engulfed before water is ever applied.
Seems to be a normal occurence in America. Nobody gives a flip. It's not their house and stuff burning up so....
@@Floridabruce1960U.K. fire fighters put these guys to shame, water is on usually in less than a minute of arrival, and crews are suited and booted on route , apart from the driver…..
Thank God the dog was safe and the poor lady, it brought tears to my eyes when the lady was asking where the fire brigade were, a friend of mine lost his house to a fire, and every one got out of the but his poor little dogs went back into the house and died.
I spent 20 years as a volunteer. In my department you needed to be able to drive the engine before being eligible to be an officer and the first and second officers to sign on determined right away who was closest to the firehouse and then used his lights/siren to go to get the first engine rolling. Volunteers only had a simple blue light so traffic was often an issue. If a volly driver got the rig rolling first then the officer changed direction or continued to get a second rig rolling as needed. It was all about communication. Always get a rig on the road asap. Of course Jersey traffic may well have contributed to the long response.
A shame they lost everything but they saved the dog ❤
Thanks to the PD for assisting the homeowner and pup!
I live in a super rural part of northern Michigan with a volunteer fire department covering an ENTIRE COUNTY. The average response from tones to water on fire is 7 minutes. That’s 3 fire houses in one department covering 360 square miles and they have a better response time. This departments response is shameful and should be addressed by the state. Just awful
Excellent coverage again . Stay safe out there
Unbelievable. A simple room & contents goes to a surround and drown before any water is on the fire. A full 20 minutes in and the original room is still fully involved. Well, it’s good that their perfect foundation save record is still good. Never seen so many white helmets in all my life!! Was there a chiefs convention nearby or something??
hell OEM was there.
It might be time to start trading in the fancy Chief vehicles for a mini-pumper as the Chief response vehicle. It would be more practical and at least would guarantee water on scene (at least temporarily)
Good idea but in this case...it would have done absolutely nothing to save the house.
@@RLTtizME Probably not in this case… but if you look at departments that actively get water into the fire instantly, they have much better outcomes. I posted one such department on my community post the other day. They get consistent results with just one pump operator, one on nozzle and one advancing hose.
they arrived in style too, I saw that.
I am embarrassed for them.
Great video. Thanks for the update. Glad the dogs are ok. I would never have open flame candles with all the safer things to us these day...🤗🤗
I'll buy that cop a coffee! Cheers for getting that dog out of the way 😍
My biggest Question is why the First in Engine didn't grab the hydrant, if you listen to the radio traffic, multiple units were asked to grab the hydrant and in the end they Hand Jacked it anyway, Ive worked in Rural Voly and Class 1 Departments and this just seemed to be a cluster
WHAT in the name of all that's Holy were the Firefighters doing!!?? WHERE WERE THE TRUCKS???
I guess herbertsville didn't learn from the first time they didn't pick up the hydrant with the first due
As a Retired Professional Firefighter 29.6 yrs. This is ridiculous!!!.. The entire shit would've gotten suspended!!!
What should have been a simple room and contents knockdown turned into a surround and drown total loss.
Nice to see the many firefighters walking and enjoying the sight.
Who is actually responsible for spraying water?
I feel for the homeowner. Had they had an engine there in the first 4 or 5 minutes, they could have saved the house. As it is, total loss. Of course, you don't know how long the fire was burning before someone called 911- all the more reason to have fire systems in the house that automatically notify. Sad situation. Hopefully insurance takes care of them. Glad no one got hurt. Things can be replaced, lives can't.
I’m not going to access if this house could be “saved.” Once those flames appeared it would be hard to tell what would have happened.
Hoarding made the fire uncontrollable. Even if they were there faster, I don’t think it could have been saved honestly.
@@ktwells2000 What the hell makes you think “hoarding” was involved???
@@TitaniumTurbine read the description
I was a volunteer for a small Department that had staffing problems on the day shift. The full-time Chief would sometimes show up by himself and start fighting the fire until other personnel and mutual aid arrived. Much better than those guys standing around.
1 guy could have did that with a deck gun. Hit the brakes. Put the truck in pump gear, Flip the PTO switch, Open the tank to pump valve and prime. open deck gun valve or pull a booster or a cross-lay = 2 minutes. Dump the tank. 2nd to arrive, hit a hydrant or hook to 1st due to boost. There I told you how to do it next time. Practice this on training night make a contest to see which truck can be the fastest. It might take you 3 minutes but not 10-15. And if you are not driving put the gear on while on the way. If you are driving you don't need gear just pump.
What’s the chief gonna do with out an engine there. Pee on it?
Just so everyones aware Brick Township FD is 100% all volunteer, there was one chief for brick that responded. The other fire officers are Brick Township Fire Marshalls, all they carry is packs and turnout gear. (3) of them arrived before the first due engine cause they happen to be in the area. 2471 is the nearest engine but due to members being spread out across the town this day they got the engine out slower then normal. Also this fire went into Monmouth County dispatch first so there was least a 5 min delay from them to Brick Township getting the info and dispatching their units.
Brick is also Ocean County Not Monmouth county
Yes correct that’s why there was a delay in dispatch.
How many Fire Marshalls/inspectors does brick have?
Maybe it’s time to have them work as a crew utilizing a mini pumper or two, or even an engine rather than individually with an SUV.
That would allow for a staffed engine to be available at all times during the work day.
It works in plenty of other places.
I also heard "Emergency Management" call on radio they were responding. OEM in NJ is not a response element, nor is it anywhere, but people do it anyway despite training. The Head is the Emergency Management Coordinator, COORDINATOR. Even if the argument was made they responded to coordinate... That's the On Scene Commander, aka Fire Chief's role. SMH
Emergency Management’s role varies in different locations.
In my area the HazMat team, the training academy, the 911 dispatch center, the department of corrections, department of youth services, Mutual Aid Coordinators and Large scale EMS task forces are all under the direction of Emergency Management.
Emergency Management is dispatched on all structure fires and significant incidents (mass casualties, tech rescue, active shooter, etc)
Most members belong to various organizations as FFs and EMTs.
Many times when members of Emergency Management respond, some will become directly involved with the firefight or rescue operation as needed while others will carry out the traditional Coordination roles.
I'm so happy those dogs are safe, and that those officers rescued them.. one of my biggest worries is my girl not getting rescued if our house ever goes up
Anybody hear the Chief tell the 1st due to grab the hydrant? They didn’t and ran out of tank water. Wonder if that made a difference.
Considering the initial fire was in the A/D corner and involved the whole A side with fire out the windows probably no
It was done by then but they disregarded the order. Someone should have waited next to the hydrant.
They are all dressed up but no truck to take them to the party
One big difference would be if all this fancy shining chief-suv had at least one fire extinguisher
You would think this was the first fire that they were called to. My department always showed up geared up ,masked up and ready to go. All I can say is one word…TRAINING!,, it works
I wonder how many people with Chief cars and POV drove by a station and truck to get on scene first.
Bc not all FF are CDL Operators. Only those who are licensed and trained can operate a engine
@@karlkrikelis5933 FF aren’t required to maintain CDL’s.
Exactly!
EVERY Chief or officer that has a department vehicle does not need to respond directly to the scene.
Common sense should prevail that when one or two other chiefs are responding but no apparatus is in service or responding then go to your respective station and ensure the rig gets out.
If the rig leaves before the chief gets there, then he/she can resume responding to the scene.
It’s all very simple. All it takes is some common sense thinking.
@hockey4370 that's ture for some states. But others require engineers to have a CDL. But still not every firefighter is not a Engineer. So if you don't know how to drive or operated the engine what good is it.
@ritirons2726 not all the cheif offers you see in the video are from the department. Some are from mutual aid departments
It was almost like a control burn it took way to long for a water truck to show. That went from a bedroom fire to a complete loss 😤😤😤
exactly what I thought, effort like sunday morning practice burn/bull session.
Why did they not use the deck gun earlier?
Because the initial plan was to do an interior attack. The conditions in the structure made the fire get out of control within minutes and they had to go exterior only.
@@graceangel5146 Which is beyond stupid. All that door and window access and they go inside? They got driven right back out and didn't make a dent if the entry fire.
That poor homeowner. I’d be hysterical.
Thank God all are alive and that sweet pit pup 🐾❤️👍🏻
The excessive response time and lack of motivation and hustle in these guys makes my local fire department look like super stars (which they are). Volunteer or not these guys need some serious training. Been a first responder myself and I would’ve been fired numerous times over had I moved this slow on scene.
This puts into perspective the waiting time before water starts to flow on the fire. It seems an eternity but how fast that fire moved through that house! Scary footage! Get your loved ones out and rebuild.
I have nothing but respect for Police and fireman, very tough jobs. But with that being said, that felt like a very long response time.
Response time to this fire was painfully slow. How is that possible? Respect to firefighters, always, how it took so long to get at this fire, I don’t understand.
They aren’t always sitting next to the fire house waiting most have full time jobs we have no paid fire fighters in the township
@@jerseyshorefireresponse Brandweer Lunteren is a channel with only volunteers, they have a normal job, and have water on the fire at 4 minutes after the first call.
I'm a little late to comment on this post so I think the issue with response time and urgency has been covered. I'm not a firefighter so I do want to ask why they felt the need to chainsaw the exterior walls to expand the window openings...after the bulk of the fire had been knocked down(?).
Better access for water to that part of the fire. The house is already well past the point where it will have to be demolished anyway, so cutting a new hole isn't going to make it worse.
Two thumbs up Greg! It does prove an important point. I was reading an article where a contractor was trying to dispell the 7 minute escape time once a smoke detector is tripped. Watching the time line on this video, it would have been difficult for anyone to get out at the 5 minute mark. At 10 minutes this place was fully involved. Contractors need to watch this video and take a lesson!
The fuel load due to hoarder conditions also needs to be part of the equation
Yes but the front door was left opened feeding the fire.
The videographer is AMAZING! Steady, consistent and calm. Well done! It can't be easy recording so steadily under such traumatic circumstances!
Amazing Pre-Arrival Video. Im not a firefighter but I have to ask why didnt they use the deck gun as soon as the first engine arrived???
Stupid, lazy, poor work ethic, didn't want the fun to end too soon. Take your pick.
You can't use a deck gun without an adequate water supply. Unfortunately, establishing a water supply ( hydrant ) is always an after thought in Brick Twp. Early on, there were a couple of requests from responding apparatus asking for a hydrant location. Each request was answered with a location, and yet. no one drove to the location and dropped at that hydrant on the way in. That causes further delay because now a labor intensive back stretch by hand is needed. Apparatus placement horrible , as usual. The first due pumper should NEVER take the spot directly in front of the structure. Either stopping short or passing the fire building allows for deploying handlines without the spaghetti hose mess on the front lawn that everyone keeps tripping over. The front of the structure is for a Ladder Company and Rescue Company if there is one !!! They have all of the special tools and equipment for forcible entry, vertical and horizontal venting, search, rescue, utility control, aerial stream, ETC. Career Fire Departments typically have the first 2 or 3 pumpers all drop at a hydrant , each arriving from different directions. This ensures a decent water supply early on, rather than playing catch up with the fire.
@@carltauscher6411Thank you for explaining that. It just seems like that deck gun could knock out anything fast
@@AB-NJ the deck hun is a very useful tool for fully involved fires. That’s being said it’s very destructive but like Carl said the deck gun uses ALOT of water very quick
It was at approximately the 10:03 mark from the start of the video, the first fire engine/truck could be seen. At the 11:39 mark it seemed water was first employed. The firefighters worked very well together. Very quick getting water onto the fire.
The problem was the response time to the fire. If this department is volunteer, the local government needs to get a full time fire department. 10 MINUTES in a fire, is an eternity.
If you won’t pay for career response times, then you should expect to get volunteer responses…no knock on these guys, but people want a 3 min response time but aren’t willing to pay for it…the consequences are predictable.
Does that area have a volunteer force only? Long response time for an engine
SOP issue, not pay rates.
This is the first fire that I've watched where there are suited up firemen walking around, and no fire engines on scene! I can hear the Chief asking,"where's my first engine?"
Tell us the reason for that. Oh...you don't know? Well find out before you blindly criticize.
@@RLTtizME 🤡
they needed directions - "down 20th!"
What kind of scanner do you have ?
I like how after 11 minutes the first engine arrives and still no water don't rush guys
This was disgusting an absolute shit show!
What are you talking about? Water was flowing 60 seconds after engine arrived
First engine didn't arrive until.after the 10:30 mark in the video, that is pathetic. But within a minute or so they had water flowing.
were u able to access the UPS fire in Lakewood tonight??
Well I guess it's safe to say that this is the reason why candles should NOT be left unattended and I'm sure the fire marshal would agree with me on that. As someone who knows about fire safety, ALWAYS extinguish candles before leaving the house or before going to bed at night. DO NOT leave lit candles unattended.
I think most of us know that...but thanks anyway.
@@RLTtizME it’s just something that I wanted to mention as I couldn’t stress enough to say. That’s all. And I also happen to have a dad who is a former firefighter. He retired not too long ago
Or don't light candles at all they are unnecessary now and an accident waiting to happen
@@NickiBratz yeah, I personally don’t light any candles. Although my parents do, my dad is a retired firefighter. So he knows a lot about fire safety
Yeah accidents happen genius lol
Oh look at the lovely doggy 🐶 Rolling over for a belly rub. No time for belly rubs doggy, we have to watch your house burn down.
As a volunteer it was sad to see no one was really ready to battle the fire. The lax of just taking ur time to suit up and no lines in the ground to battle exterior while someone was suiting up with a interior line waiting
The chief gave micro signals to crew - all lost - told them to back up and then...well you saw it crew showed and knew they could move slower - chief already signaling surround and drown a bedroom candle fire. starts at the top I am afraid.
how do you get to pre arrivals
Fantastic job filming. Thank you for the great coverage. Blessings to all first responders. Please everyone stay safe.
Everything is fucking destroyed. Holy shit, where is the fucking fire department?! What the hell is even the point of putting it out by time they got there? Jfc.
Crazy how long it took them to actually put water on the fire?! They got nice pretty trucks and lots of firemen wandering around not doing anything, why did it take them so long to turn water on? It's so ridiculous we all thought it was a training house fire that they just let burn? I feel very sad for homeowner😢
That's the USA way! You can see it in just about every video.
the first crew that arrived probably had a rescue truck which dont have much fire fighting equipment
@@jones8072they ain’t rescuing anything from that structure, those huge rescue rigs are a waste of money for these types of departments. They think they’re the FDNY. Sure the look good at the pancake breakfasts all shined up, but they’re virtually useless when the shit hits the fan. All the gear and no idea.
@@jones8072 Then that should have not been the first truck. You can protect victims faster by eliminating the threat with tank water than you can by finding and removing them.
@@JB91710 well obviously it would be best to have the first truck arrive have water but that truck may have been coming back from another call or at a different station or any other amount of factors
What kind of camera are you using?
For this video 3, first iPhone, GoPro hero 11, canon 1dx mark ii
when the office of emergency management shows up before there is water on the fire... time to re-evaluate staffing and SOPs
leaders, give them a 2.5 lbs kiddie instead of a raise. Would save homes tomorrow.
I'm absolutely dismayed at the amount of time it took for water to be put in this fire? I know the house was going to be a complete loss however, the home owner or renter doesn't know this and expects that someone, mainly a fire department will be responding quickly and water will be put on the fire in a timely manner? I find it amazing you had numerous command staff from different agencies arrive on scene fairly quickly, however it took well over 10 minutes before a working fire apparatus arrived, and even then it took a long time for water? In a city this large, it seems very odd that response time was so long? Sorry to be critical, but this video showed some serious problems?
Thanks for posting. You always put yourself out there when you do. Long response times now days mean the house is gone, but with current home furnishings they go pretty fast anyway. Even after that house was burning 10 minutes its probably a total loss anyway. It was good no one one trapped inside. I found the video educational as far as how the fire progressed and when the structure was too weakened to be safe. it is just a fact that it is harder to retain volunteers, and a day time may find your staff unavailable. The general public in a volunteer area need to realize what their local department is capable of and if they want faster service then they will have to find the money to have staffed fire houses. Cheers.
Glad no one was home at the time, and that their dog was rescued.
Boy that fire was really blowing out those windows, when the video started.
Thank you to all firefighters everywhere for protecting the citizens of your coverage area.
Unfortunately this fire was interrupting the fire department coffee break. Took them a good hour to figure out that they needed to put water on the fire. By the time they figured it out the loss was total! Have to get permission from the Planning Commission to decide if they can put the fire out! I would be ashamed to show my face if I was on that fire call. Absolutely pathetic!!
What you talking about? You want them to piss on it? Can’t put on with fire with no water. Water on fire 60 seconds after engine arrived
Best inground pool installation video on RUclips
All those firemen but no truck. WOW Did they forget to get it.
No, they're volunteers. The paid crew brings the engine.
That's what I was saying. O George we forgot the truck. Duh
@@m2hmghb is that true? Wow
@golferpro1241 that's not true because of that were the case the fire truck would have been on scene I n 5mins. Volunteers drive the truck but you have to wait for a minimum of 2 to 3 before you leave
@@CarTalesCrewNo way that's true. No department would be that stupid to have a policy like that.
Did the first crew take the bus? What am I missing? Where was the rig?
Hopefully they can use this as a training video on what NOT to do at a fire. Glad I don’t live anywhere near this town! The whole department should be retrained.
OEM should be audited for fire grant usage. Training vacations or mini pumpers - you decide which is truth.
Can someone answer why some of the FF aren’t connected to air?
THIS ENTIRE VIDEO IS AN EYE OPENER FOR ALL EMERGENCY RESPONDERS, NOT JUST P.D. From the comments below on other emergency services in that area, sounds like the entire County needs new management. 30mins is unacceptable for an Ambulance to get to the address.
You are sniping with virtually no underlying facts whatsoever. Your comment negates itself.
EMS is not an essential service in about 46 out of the 50 states in the USA. So no you don’t get an ambulance if one is not available. EMS has been yelling from the roof tops about how bad it is but no one listens. Many are leaving the field of work because of crappy hours, crappy pay and benefits. My old partner drives a box truck and brings home about 600 dollars more every two weeks then I do as a paramedic so….
@@jasonwhitaker4883 You need to move to a northern municipality. $125,000.
Let's stop and hope everyone is doing ok right let' honor and appreciate the paramedics and firemen who proudly serve us your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated thanks great job great team work and great and sweet catches as usual still going strong great team efforts are deeply appreciated thanks to everyone who responds and is involved stay safe and warm out much love and respect and appreciation job well done you should be amazed and proud way to go !! Joe 😅😅😊😊
I can kind of understand that lady's anxiety when she kept asking where the fire department was. I was involved in a fire a little over two years ago. I live in a mobile Home Park and two houses down a fire started and it burnt his place down and it burnt my neighbors down and another 60 seconds more and mine would have been up in flames but the fire department got there just in time... I just had some minor heat damage thankfully
To play devils advocate, you can't really complain when you aren't willing to pay for a professional paid dept for coverage. I do agree with you that it's sad to see but also, this community gets what it pays for
Hiya, Why did it take so long before FD put water on the fire?
I’m guessing across the US many people don’t realize that small towns, villages & rural areas are supported by volunteers. Most volunteers have full time jobs or other duties. In order for an engine to respond to a call you need someone at or near the firehouse, who is certified to operate that vehicle, to respond to the call. In today’s society there are just not enough volunteers. To be involved as a fireman, you need training & that never ends. It is a huge commitment. In our area, mutual aid is often utilized, as appears it did here, but the response time is that much longer. More need to be willing to volunteer, if they are physically able to do the job. Here those who can’t do the job any longer, due to age &/or injury, still are utilized in tasks like directing traffic away from the scene. More effort needs to be put into getting the younger generations involved. This is not a job just for the guys, gals can do it as well. Support your local department, both financially & with your time. Can the town support even just a driver for at least one truck to respond? This could be your house. What would the response time be if you had a fire in your home? Have fire extinguishers handy & make sure they are full. Fire detectors should be functioning. Take precautions in the home. Thank you all who are first responders!
I'm going to be controversial and say there is actually a lot to like here. The elephant in the room is of course response time for the first engine, but that is a function of staffing and geography and I really can't speak to it. In my very rural district there are more than a few places that we would have no chance if reaching in less than 15 minutes at the best of times. This looks more suburban, but for all we know it may be the house furthest from the station.
Once the engine arrived on scene, it was 1:07 from airbrake to flowing water, and that is pretty damn good. Crews were masked up at the door when they got water and got a quick knockdown. I am also glad to see they used their tank water rather than waiting for a supply to start fighting fire. It wasn't enough to knock down the whole house, but still took a lot of the energy out of the fire. Once they had a decent water supply (which took stretching several blocks by the sound of it) they put several lines in service and killed it. Love the purple hose BTW
All in all I've seen a lot worse.
Maybe one of those chiefs should try going to a firehouse and getting a rig on the street instead of rushing to the scene in a chase car only to stand around for 10 minutes waiting for a suppression unit.
Put some wheels on your recliner and get out there and help out.
What was a bedroom fire. When the services was called and when they finally turn up the house is nearly burned down very very slow and very poor fire service
If they just would have had a crew of RUclips firefighters that fire would have been out 30 seconds after the 911 call
hahaha exactly
And of course a few to man the. Armchair command post
My brother-in-law is a FD lieutenant in a CT town a lot smaller than this one. It's mostly a volunteer department but there's always someone in the firehouse 24/7 to get the apparatus to the fire scene immediately when a call comes and where the volunteers will muster as well. This response time was almost rural.
Glad that no one was home and that PD was able to get the dog away from the house and to safety.
Thank you to all firefighters everywhere for protecting the citizens of your coverage area.
If someone was home, they would've had a chance to put the fire out, so they wouldn't have to rely on these clowns...
What were they doing with a candle?
New Jersey loves to tax hike everyone why don’t they staff paid in with the volunteers. I mean the residents deserve it since they can pay up to 15k+ just in property taxes each year. Unbelievable!