I love this album even better than Melancholy, it makes more sense to me and is very well put together. The last 3 songs also elevate the album to a very different dimension. I think it's a an album to listen as a whole.
Necrotic Nick- There's definitely stuff I like about this album but there's a bit too much of the symphonic elements and honestly those synths start sounding very samey after awhile. The last 3 definitely showed some cool songwriting dynamics that I liked so I'm curious where they go.
@@thrallsofmetal every honest opinion is a good opinion ahahah I admit I thought the same about the orchestral after the first few listens but I feel like I integrated them now and they sound less cheesy and more adequate now. I'm not even a fan of symphonic metal ahahah I just love that band, they are so unique!
I thought this album was pretty good. Definitely not my favorite. I think their previous album “melancholy” was a deathcore masterpiece and is similar to elegy except they aren’t as drenched in symphonic stuff. I highly recommend malediction from melancholy
Necrotic Nick- I think with less symphonic elements I might actually like this more. The overproduction of the cleaner vocals was an issue too but I'd be willing to check out more of their stuff in the future.
Necrotic Nick- While I'm not the biggest deathcore fan I do want to give it a fair shake. After all, I won't know if I like it or not unless I listen to it.
On metal archives it has this band as Symphonic/Melodic Deathcore. Heading in, I was kinda expecting like the goofy cheesy symphonic metal stuff. But just now finishing the album, for me I actually quite liked this one. I liked the melodic nature to it and the symphonies to me only carried the music further and didn't create a cheesy atmosphere which I quite liked. I felt like for the most part this was a really solid record and definitely one that I would want to head back to. Rating:4/5
Necrotic Nick- I think the symphonic elements end up becoming too overdone at certain point. They kinda lose what I imagine was supposed to be a sinister edge and it just gets campy for me. When the symphonic albums take a backseat they're actually pretty good though.
Shadow of Intent have become one of my favorite modern deathcore bands. This album to me is their best album to date. I love how they blend deathcore with symphonic elements so well, and Ben Duerr is such an incredible vocalist.
Necrotic Nick- I really dug the harsh vocals on this. The dude has a very powerful delivery. The cleaner vocals were very off-putting though since they were so overproduced. I think these guys are good musicians I'm just not that into what they do.
I thought this was a great album. People think their last album, Melancholy, was their masterpiece. I could agree but I personally liked their Reclaimer record. If you want a really crushing song from them, try The Forsaken Effigy. It's one of heaviest songs I enjoy. Hell, SoI are my heaviest band I listen to. Anyway Elegy is a 8.75/10 for me.
Oh and I forgot to mention that, it is indeed a member from Fleshgod Apocalypse who does all their orchestral work. Both for this album and last. His name slips my mind but it's funny how often people bring up FA.
@@thrallsofmetal good lord. I cant believe cannibal corpse would allow whitechapel on the bill. Im not a cannibal corpse fan but i respect them. 👌 fuck whitechapel
This is my first album that I have heard from Shadow of Intent properly. I was very surprised with this album because I'm generally not a big fan of Deathcore, but I absolutely dug this. This was another 8/10 for me personally.
Necrotic Nick- This was the first full album of theirs I had jammed. I had checked out individual songs before but never dove into a full album. There's definitely stuff I liked on this one but the symphonic elements got to be too much after awhile.
Unfortunately the orchestral elements are kinda who they are. It did kinda lend better to their early material. Fitting well with the Halo subject matter. Not sure they'd get as much traction removing it. Toning it down I could see
Necrotic Nick- I like that they're trying to carve their own niche in deathcore but it's a bit much on this one. If they were blaring all the time on this I think it would be a lot better.
Necrotic Nick- I jammed a track awhile ago and it's definitely something I want to snag at some point. I really haven't been into Kadavar in awhile but I do love what they're doing with Elder on what I've heard.
I quite liked this album personally. I'm probably less of a deathcore fan than you, I can't stand it for the most part so it's even nicer when I find one that's actually decent. I've never liked deathcore as a whole so it's rare that happens 🤣 I think the reason why I liked this is because of the elements that you were not really into. For me I'm much more of a fan of when an album like this brings in those kind of things, because otherwise I feel it can just be a bit boring. Same goes for the Fit For An Autopsy album, there's some tracks on there that are awesome, and also the Depths of Hatred album from last year. This and those mentioned above are definitely ones I will be checking in with in future to see where the sound goes
Necrotic Nick- I'm not much a deathcore fan and more but I'm even less of a fan of most symphonic metal in general so this may have been a perfect storm of taking me out of my comfort zone for a bit. lol. I like when deathcore steps outside of the breakdown to blast beat formula but sometimes it's a mixed bag depending on which direction they step. I like the blend of Rivers of Nihil and Gojira in Fit for an Autopsy's sound but with this one the symphonic elements are just overbearing and a bit generic. I'm glad you found something new you liked though.
Hey Nic, nice review. Not my style but thanks for taking the time! You think you’re gonna review the new Tony Martin? I thought that one was surprisingly heavy & good.
Necrotic Nick- Thanks! Yeah, it's not really mine either but there's some stuff I did like on it. I probably won't do a full review for the new Tony Martin but I may still check it out. The dude is still a solid singer and I do still have a soft spot for Headless Cross.
I really enjoyed this album. I got hooked on the singles Intensified Genocide and From Ruin... We Rise and was highly anticipating this album and it didn't disappoint. I will say it wasn't as good as I was hoping, but still very solid. It's also my first time listening to a full Shadow of Intent album. I agree that Of Fury, even if it's not a bad song, feels really weird on this album. On first listen I would say that I liked the Worm Shepherd more (it's more brutal and less symphonic but still similar to SoI), but this album is really good. Of course the winner of Jan. 14th deathcore is definitely Fit For An Autopsy for me.
Necrotic Nick- I really enjoyed Intensified Genocide. That song is a banger. Of Fury just didn't seem to fit on the album for me. It felt too much like a symphonic power metal song in spots. I may still check out Worm Shepard just because there seems to be a buzz about them as well. I like the new Fit for an Autopsy more than this one for sure though.
All bands should do the same as these guys and self release. It's so much "easier"* to do now. Home studio programmes are cheap and amazingly easy to use and make a record- I've managed to put a whole 11 track Big Beat/sample/cut n' paste DJ Shadowesque LP together in the space of two years, including teaching myself how to use it... And it was only £/$14. I can't play an instrument at all, so imagine what you could do if you can! Record labels are obsolete in every way to be honest, they just don't want people to find out. They were there to pay studio fees and producers wages and then dish out on promotion and manufacturing. All of that you can do yourself, especially with the reach of social media. Imagine bands being able to create without the yoke of record label debt over their heads. In the early to mid 80's I started becoming aware of the DIY punk scene with bands like Crass, Subhumans et al. Photocopied covers and tapes and self released, pressed singles on vinyl, paid for with fanzine, gig money and social benefits ;). There are so many bands now going down that route in the resurging underground in UK. Jungle, Grime and all the electro dance sub cultures have been doing this since early 90's. With so many different platforms available to promote and release new music the time has never been better to drive the vultures in the big companies into the ground forever.. I have no love for them. The money they steal from the artist is sickening and has lead to the ultimate kick in the nutsack- Spotify. Bandcamp and Mixcloud have been amazing. I've bought so many bits and bobs because of them.. Hellripper being a great example of a Bandcamp find. When you have so many bands literally hoping their merch sales will cover the cost of tours and help with LP sales to cover the debt they are in to the record company, something is so fucking incredibly wrong. My favourite band in the entire world and has been since I was 18, is British punk/techno/grebo/hip hop/underground legends, Pop Will Eat Itself- love them. Seen them live more than any other band, 30+ at last count. In 1992 they were dropped by their record label before the end of their contract and because of this, their debt to the company was written off. Over £1million. Studio costs, promotion, artwork etc for three LP's. And that was 30 years ago, can you imagine the debt that bands are yoked with now? Fucking shocking. The lads in PWEI were only about 26 when they were dropped.. Imagine being that much in debt at that age? 5 in the band, £200+ grand each. That's fucking scary shit.. I'm 51 now, I don't think in my entire working life I've actually earned 200 grand if added all together.. 334 years man lol! So, after such a ramble hahaha.. Yay to bands self releasing.. boo to record companies.. and I thought this record was pretty awful all in all.. but I really don't like symphonic anything in metal to be honest. I just want chug, growls, thrash, mental drumming, blistering guitar solos and scowly band photos. I'm a simple man with simple tastes \m/ * I say easier.. obviously it takes a lot of dedication, commitment, forward thinking, dedication and a team of people on your side and above all- time, patience, bloody minded determination, contacts, kindness and the truth that you very unlikely to be rich, but if you get to do what you love and it pays for itself, then that's a fucking win. Sermon over, turn to hymns, page 456...
Necrotic Nick- There's arguments to be made for and against going with a label. With labels there's arguably stronger promotion and support for the bands but that really does depend on the label. With self releasing you're not subjected to the restraints of being on a label as well or them pushing you in different directions artistically. There's definitely room for a big discussion (maybe something we might cover in a video someday actually) but it really can go either way.
@@thrallsofmetal agreed Nick. I think some labels- especially in our music community are much better.. ie- have a conscience and a soul lol. Metal has some great labels like RoadRunner, Metal Blade etc that have pushed the genre and bands to the forefront. All these guys were independent labels started by enthusiasts that could see that the majors were never going to sign metal bands, especially in the early 80's. Without them, where would we be in terms of the music we love? Probably much poorer in diversity and your cd collection would be just one shelf dude lol. I think most labels are cutting back on expenditure, even with the resurgence of vinyl and cd sales. The amount of money used to promote bands and records is being scaled down- especially when you can pay a small team of social networkers to use all platforms to push LP ad's and reviews in marketing campaigns, largely for free.. no massive printing costs for posters or advertising budgets for ad's in music press etc and instant access in to the eyes of the buyer. Even how an LP is plugged seems to have dramatically changed, with live album streams on YT and being available on Spotify.. whether or not that helps sell the record digitally or physically would be an interesting answer. I really think that this subject would make for a good discussion on your channel- especially with Jammin' as he's looking at promoting new bands, right ?.. fuck it guys- you should make a Thralls record label for releasing and promoting underground metal bands.. I'm a top illustrator if they need LP art work.. like proper good old skool Metal art a la Derek Riggs at his height and the current best work on Death metal releases \m/ Subject wise, it would make for an invaluable roundtable for up and coming bands and teens in the basement or garage that could really do with the knowledge or extra drive to make things happen for their music. Could even branch out into sharing tips for home recording via digital platforms, which programmes are the best value for money and give the best results for recording. Perhaps invite members of bands and industry types onto the channel to discuss their experiences and insights on the subject?
Just listened to Of Fury single. This music would be perfect with like Amorphis or even Epica styled vocal approach, but it's so weird with this deathcore White Chapel thing that it kind of turns me off a bit.
Necrotic Nick- Honestly, with some more traditional clean vocals bouncing back and forth between the harsh ones it might work better. It kinda feel like that style was the big influence on that one but they really didn't blend it with their style very well.
Necrotic Nick- I'd say there's definitely a death metal feel on some of the tracks but this is still very much a deathcore album. Nothing wrong with that, but they need to tame the symphonic elements down a bit.
i do like this album and since they are sci fi aliencore im sort of ok with the ultra processed vocals , and i personally dont find sounding like NIghtwish (but far heavier) to be a insult ,i thought it was a pretty good not great album
Necrotic Nick- I honestly didn't get much of a sci-fi feel on this one at all. The symphonic elements really gave me a big gothic vibe more than sci-fi for me to be honest. I like that they're pushing the boundaries of deathcore a bit more with this but some of it really didn't do much for me. It may just not be entirely for me though. Still, not a bad alum.
@@thrallsofmetal well the first two albums were far more sci fi , i agree this one is less so . but they are for sure a sci fi themed band even named after Halo. and space operas are full of symphonic stuff but yeah i agree its more gothic but it still has the Halo vibe
@@thrallsofmetal this and these super clean produced albums just aren't my thing. Also these symphonic blackened deathcore Bands often sound like B-Side Dimmu Borgir but make it core and even more sterile sounding, that's not really the sound I am chasing for I want my music like my tofu Raw and chunky
The guitarist just needs to stop singing. It ruins the songs for me. You can tell the band is mainly "his" band which is probably why all of the "clean" singing is allowed. Quit trying to impress the chicks bro.
Necrotic Nick- I have no problem with clean vocals but I don't like that they're so damn overproduced on this album. Nothing about the cleans sound natural at all. It's all drenched in effects and layers to the point it's almost just synthetic.
I love this album even better than Melancholy, it makes more sense to me and is very well put together. The last 3 songs also elevate the album to a very different dimension. I think it's a an album to listen as a whole.
Necrotic Nick- There's definitely stuff I like about this album but there's a bit too much of the symphonic elements and honestly those synths start sounding very samey after awhile. The last 3 definitely showed some cool songwriting dynamics that I liked so I'm curious where they go.
@@thrallsofmetal every honest opinion is a good opinion ahahah I admit I thought the same about the orchestral after the first few listens but I feel like I integrated them now and they sound less cheesy and more adequate now. I'm not even a fan of symphonic metal ahahah I just love that band, they are so unique!
I thought this album was pretty good. Definitely not my favorite. I think their previous album “melancholy” was a deathcore masterpiece and is similar to elegy except they aren’t as drenched in symphonic stuff. I highly recommend malediction from melancholy
Necrotic Nick- I think with less symphonic elements I might actually like this more. The overproduction of the cleaner vocals was an issue too but I'd be willing to check out more of their stuff in the future.
malediction was the song that got me into the band, SUCH a good one
Deathcore reviews on thralls makes my day 🔥
Necrotic Nick- While I'm not the biggest deathcore fan I do want to give it a fair shake. After all, I won't know if I like it or not unless I listen to it.
BAHAHAHAHAHA
On metal archives it has this band as Symphonic/Melodic Deathcore. Heading in, I was kinda expecting like the goofy cheesy symphonic metal stuff. But just now finishing the album, for me I actually quite liked this one. I liked the melodic nature to it and the symphonies to me only carried the music further and didn't create a cheesy atmosphere which I quite liked. I felt like for the most part this was a really solid record and definitely one that I would want to head back to.
Rating:4/5
Necrotic Nick- I think the symphonic elements end up becoming too overdone at certain point. They kinda lose what I imagine was supposed to be a sinister edge and it just gets campy for me. When the symphonic albums take a backseat they're actually pretty good though.
Shadow of Intent have become one of my favorite modern deathcore bands. This album to me is their best album to date. I love how they blend deathcore with symphonic elements so well, and Ben Duerr is such an incredible vocalist.
Necrotic Nick- I really dug the harsh vocals on this. The dude has a very powerful delivery. The cleaner vocals were very off-putting though since they were so overproduced. I think these guys are good musicians I'm just not that into what they do.
@@thrallsofmetal That's fine, and I do agree that Ben's harsh vocals are way better than his clean vocals. Phil Bozeman can pull off both really well.
I thought this was a great album. People think their last album, Melancholy, was their masterpiece. I could agree but I personally liked their Reclaimer record. If you want a really crushing song from them, try The Forsaken Effigy. It's one of heaviest songs I enjoy. Hell, SoI are my heaviest band I listen to. Anyway Elegy is a 8.75/10 for me.
Oh and I forgot to mention that, it is indeed a member from Fleshgod Apocalypse who does all their orchestral work. Both for this album and last. His name slips my mind but it's funny how often people bring up FA.
This album is fucking killer. I know you don't really like deathcore but you need to check out the new Worm Shepherd album Ritual Hyms.
The Thralls occasionally review deathcore, but Necrotic will probably get that Worm Shepherd album in a collection update.
Necrotic Nick- I've heard a lot of rumblings about Worm Shepard here lately so I may check it out if I have time.
Yep! Worm Shepherd rules!!! 🤘
Please Review Worm Shepherd's "Ritual Hymns" Album Id Like To Know What You Think Of That
Necrotic Nick- Since it already came out I may just cover it in a collection update if I pick it up.
@@thrallsofmetal awesome thanks mayne pyrexia and waking the cadavers new album is good too
Saw these guys live with despised icon angelmaker Kublai khan and ingested 🤘
Necrotic Nick- I may be seeing them with Cannibal Corpse and Whitechapel later this year. I'm curious how all of this translates live.
@@thrallsofmetal Im going to the Chicago stop of that tour too! This is my first time listening to them too and im impressed
Ingested fucks!
@@thrallsofmetal SOI is amazing live
@@thrallsofmetal good lord. I cant believe cannibal corpse would allow whitechapel on the bill. Im not a cannibal corpse fan but i respect them. 👌 fuck whitechapel
This is my first album that I have heard from Shadow of Intent properly. I was very surprised with this album because I'm generally not a big fan of Deathcore, but I absolutely dug this. This was another 8/10 for me personally.
Necrotic Nick- This was the first full album of theirs I had jammed. I had checked out individual songs before but never dove into a full album. There's definitely stuff I liked on this one but the symphonic elements got to be too much after awhile.
Unfortunately the orchestral elements are kinda who they are. It did kinda lend better to their early material. Fitting well with the Halo subject matter. Not sure they'd get as much traction removing it. Toning it down I could see
Necrotic Nick- I like that they're trying to carve their own niche in deathcore but it's a bit much on this one. If they were blaring all the time on this I think it would be a lot better.
Have you heard the new Elder collaboration with Kadavar entitled Eldovar?
Necrotic Nick- I jammed a track awhile ago and it's definitely something I want to snag at some point. I really haven't been into Kadavar in awhile but I do love what they're doing with Elder on what I've heard.
I quite liked this album personally. I'm probably less of a deathcore fan than you, I can't stand it for the most part so it's even nicer when I find one that's actually decent. I've never liked deathcore as a whole so it's rare that happens 🤣 I think the reason why I liked this is because of the elements that you were not really into. For me I'm much more of a fan of when an album like this brings in those kind of things, because otherwise I feel it can just be a bit boring. Same goes for the Fit For An Autopsy album, there's some tracks on there that are awesome, and also the Depths of Hatred album from last year. This and those mentioned above are definitely ones I will be checking in with in future to see where the sound goes
Necrotic Nick- I'm not much a deathcore fan and more but I'm even less of a fan of most symphonic metal in general so this may have been a perfect storm of taking me out of my comfort zone for a bit. lol. I like when deathcore steps outside of the breakdown to blast beat formula but sometimes it's a mixed bag depending on which direction they step. I like the blend of Rivers of Nihil and Gojira in Fit for an Autopsy's sound but with this one the symphonic elements are just overbearing and a bit generic. I'm glad you found something new you liked though.
I thought this album was awesome and it’s already reserved a spot on my “top albums of 2022” 😂
Necrotic Nick- There's a lot of albums to come but this year is already off to a good start as far as releases.
This was decent for a Deathcore release but still meh
Necrotic Nick- That was essentially my take: it's good for what it is but I'm just not that into it.
So far this is my AOTY, but you would probably like their 2017 album Reclaimer based on what you liked and disliked about this one
Hey Nic, nice review. Not my style but thanks for taking the time! You think you’re gonna review the new Tony Martin? I thought that one was surprisingly heavy & good.
Necrotic Nick- Thanks! Yeah, it's not really mine either but there's some stuff I did like on it. I probably won't do a full review for the new Tony Martin but I may still check it out. The dude is still a solid singer and I do still have a soft spot for Headless Cross.
I really enjoyed this album. I got hooked on the singles Intensified Genocide and From Ruin... We Rise and was highly anticipating this album and it didn't disappoint. I will say it wasn't as good as I was hoping, but still very solid. It's also my first time listening to a full Shadow of Intent album. I agree that Of Fury, even if it's not a bad song, feels really weird on this album. On first listen I would say that I liked the Worm Shepherd more (it's more brutal and less symphonic but still similar to SoI), but this album is really good. Of course the winner of Jan. 14th deathcore is definitely Fit For An Autopsy for me.
Necrotic Nick- I really enjoyed Intensified Genocide. That song is a banger. Of Fury just didn't seem to fit on the album for me. It felt too much like a symphonic power metal song in spots. I may still check out Worm Shepard just because there seems to be a buzz about them as well. I like the new Fit for an Autopsy more than this one for sure though.
i dont like deathcore, but ill give this a listen, thank you nick
Necrotic Nick- It's always worth jamming just to see if you like it for yourself. I thought it was OK but who knows, this might really do it for you.
All bands should do the same as these guys and self release. It's so much "easier"* to do now. Home studio programmes are cheap and amazingly easy to use and make a record- I've managed to put a whole 11 track Big Beat/sample/cut n' paste DJ Shadowesque LP together in the space of two years, including teaching myself how to use it... And it was only £/$14. I can't play an instrument at all, so imagine what you could do if you can!
Record labels are obsolete in every way to be honest, they just don't want people to find out. They were there to pay studio fees and producers wages and then dish out on promotion and manufacturing. All of that you can do yourself, especially with the reach of social media. Imagine bands being able to create without the yoke of record label debt over their heads.
In the early to mid 80's I started becoming aware of the DIY punk scene with bands like Crass, Subhumans et al. Photocopied covers and tapes and self released, pressed singles on vinyl, paid for with fanzine, gig money and social benefits ;). There are so many bands now going down that route in the resurging underground in UK. Jungle, Grime and all the electro dance sub cultures have been doing this since early 90's.
With so many different platforms available to promote and release new music the time has never been better to drive the vultures in the big companies into the ground forever.. I have no love for them. The money they steal from the artist is sickening and has lead to the ultimate kick in the nutsack- Spotify. Bandcamp and Mixcloud have been amazing. I've bought so many bits and bobs because of them.. Hellripper being a great example of a Bandcamp find. When you have so many bands literally hoping their merch sales will cover the cost of tours and help with LP sales to cover the debt they are in to the record company, something is so fucking incredibly wrong.
My favourite band in the entire world and has been since I was 18, is British punk/techno/grebo/hip hop/underground legends, Pop Will Eat Itself- love them. Seen them live more than any other band, 30+ at last count. In 1992 they were dropped by their record label before the end of their contract and because of this, their debt to the company was written off. Over £1million. Studio costs, promotion, artwork etc for three LP's. And that was 30 years ago, can you imagine the debt that bands are yoked with now? Fucking shocking. The lads in PWEI were only about 26 when they were dropped.. Imagine being that much in debt at that age? 5 in the band, £200+ grand each. That's fucking scary shit.. I'm 51 now, I don't think in my entire working life I've actually earned 200 grand if added all together.. 334 years man lol!
So, after such a ramble hahaha.. Yay to bands self releasing.. boo to record companies.. and I thought this record was pretty awful all in all.. but I really don't like symphonic anything in metal to be honest. I just want chug, growls, thrash, mental drumming, blistering guitar solos and scowly band photos. I'm a simple man with simple tastes \m/
* I say easier.. obviously it takes a lot of dedication, commitment, forward thinking, dedication and a team of people on your side and above all- time, patience, bloody minded determination, contacts, kindness and the truth that you very unlikely to be rich, but if you get to do what you love and it pays for itself, then that's a fucking win.
Sermon over, turn to hymns, page 456...
Necrotic Nick- There's arguments to be made for and against going with a label. With labels there's arguably stronger promotion and support for the bands but that really does depend on the label. With self releasing you're not subjected to the restraints of being on a label as well or them pushing you in different directions artistically. There's definitely room for a big discussion (maybe something we might cover in a video someday actually) but it really can go either way.
@@thrallsofmetal agreed Nick. I think some labels- especially in our music community are much better.. ie- have a conscience and a soul lol.
Metal has some great labels like RoadRunner, Metal Blade etc that have pushed the genre and bands to the forefront. All these guys were independent labels started by enthusiasts that could see that the majors were never going to sign metal bands, especially in the early 80's. Without them, where would we be in terms of the music we love? Probably much poorer in diversity and your cd collection would be just one shelf dude lol.
I think most labels are cutting back on expenditure, even with the resurgence of vinyl and cd sales. The amount of money used to promote bands and records is being scaled down- especially when you can pay a small team of social networkers to use all platforms to push LP ad's and reviews in marketing campaigns, largely for free.. no massive printing costs for posters or advertising budgets for ad's in music press etc and instant access in to the eyes of the buyer.
Even how an LP is plugged seems to have dramatically changed, with live album streams on YT and being available on Spotify.. whether or not that helps sell the record digitally or physically would be an interesting answer.
I really think that this subject would make for a good discussion on your channel- especially with Jammin' as he's looking at promoting new bands, right ?.. fuck it guys- you should make a Thralls record label for releasing and promoting underground metal bands.. I'm a top illustrator if they need LP art work.. like proper good old skool Metal art a la Derek Riggs at his height and the current best work on Death metal releases \m/
Subject wise, it would make for an invaluable roundtable for up and coming bands and teens in the basement or garage that could really do with the knowledge or extra drive to make things happen for their music. Could even branch out into sharing tips for home recording via digital platforms, which programmes are the best value for money and give the best results for recording. Perhaps invite members of bands and industry types onto the channel to discuss their experiences and insights on the subject?
The guitarist needs to work on his vibrato.
Necrotic Nick- I think the symphony needs to calm down first, but that's just me.
Just listened to Of Fury single. This music would be perfect with like Amorphis or even Epica styled vocal approach, but it's so weird with this deathcore White Chapel thing that it kind of turns me off a bit.
Necrotic Nick- Honestly, with some more traditional clean vocals bouncing back and forth between the harsh ones it might work better. It kinda feel like that style was the big influence on that one but they really didn't blend it with their style very well.
With this album they are leaving their symphonic deathcore roots and going for more of a symphonic death metal sound. Killer album!
Necrotic Nick- I'd say there's definitely a death metal feel on some of the tracks but this is still very much a deathcore album. Nothing wrong with that, but they need to tame the symphonic elements down a bit.
@@thrallsofmetal I don't mind it. It's one of the reasons why I got hooked on the band back in the day 👍
i do like this album and since they are sci fi aliencore im sort of ok with the ultra processed vocals , and i personally dont find sounding like NIghtwish (but far heavier) to be a insult ,i thought it was a pretty good not great album
Necrotic Nick- I honestly didn't get much of a sci-fi feel on this one at all. The symphonic elements really gave me a big gothic vibe more than sci-fi for me to be honest. I like that they're pushing the boundaries of deathcore a bit more with this but some of it really didn't do much for me. It may just not be entirely for me though. Still, not a bad alum.
@@thrallsofmetal well the first two albums were far more sci fi , i agree this one is less so . but they are for sure a sci fi themed band even named after Halo. and space operas are full of symphonic stuff but yeah i agree its more gothic but it still has the Halo vibe
As much as I respect SoI for what they contributed to modern deathcore.
The production on their albums is a big nope for me
Necrotic Nick- The symphonic elements need to take a big backseat. They shouldn't be drowning out anything on this.
@@thrallsofmetal this and these super clean produced albums just aren't my thing.
Also these symphonic blackened deathcore Bands often sound like B-Side Dimmu Borgir but make it core and even more sterile sounding, that's not really the sound I am chasing for
I want my music like my tofu
Raw and chunky
Is Thralls Riff Vault not able to happen until Shredlord recovers?
What happened to shredlord?
@@heavymetalcompilations4784 He got COVID and is currently on the mend.
Necrotic Nick- He's been laid up with Covid but he's getting out of that soon. He's almost in the clear.
@@thrallsofmetal Send your well wishes to him from all of us!
It's good but this week for Deathcore goes to Worm Shepherd
Necrotic Nick- I haven't jammed that one yet but this was OK. After awhile the symphonic elements really started to get a bit grating.
The guitarist just needs to stop singing. It ruins the songs for me. You can tell the band is mainly "his" band which is probably why all of the "clean" singing is allowed. Quit trying to impress the chicks bro.
quit trying to mold them to your purist death metal box.
Necrotic Nick- I have no problem with clean vocals but I don't like that they're so damn overproduced on this album. Nothing about the cleans sound natural at all. It's all drenched in effects and layers to the point it's almost just synthetic.