Making Our Own Ford Focus RS In Germany
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- We asked if we could go the Ford factory in Germany and work on a Focus RS. Amazingly they said yes so we flew to Germany to help put together our own car.
We also caught up with the lead vehicle designer and performance engineer to see what they thought about people like us modifying something that they have been working on for years.
And of course then hit up a track to do some skids...
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A huge thank you to Ford Australia for letting us make this video.
We approached them about our idea and were stoked they agreed to let us into the factory. They did cover travel, crew costs and also paid for a delicious schnitzel at a German restaurant.
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WOW WOW WOW! I couldn't get the smile off my face for the entire video. Well done lads on a magnificent experience with the team from Ford Germany and and congratulations on a brilliant choice of car for the Mighty Car Mods Garage... Very envious indeed. Truely MAD!
just what I was thinking!,
MCM and the RS is what I've wanted to see for ages,
never thought they'd actually buy one though, never mind go and help build it.
Great job MCM, glad it wasn't Blue too lol.
Germans are renown for their patience! Great video and I agree 100% about the smiling.
Nice to see they destroying the tire at the end! lol, the guy on the passenger was not liking, but later on he was smiling! :)
One of the best episodes yet guys! Hilarious!
1000% agreed !!! Epic Video !! EPIC CARR !!! THIS WAS SOO MADDDDD!!!!
Props to Ford for letting you guys film in there.
It's actually quite usual to be allowed to film on factory tour.
You can visit the BMW factory in Munich for ten euros if you're a student, and you can takes pictures :)
Irandal I believe you can visit the US BMW factory for free and take pictures
andrew bradley my mom let's you take pictures for free 😐
Irandal holy shit, I envy you. we have an BMW assembly factory here in Indonesia, but I don't think I can visit it
Factory workers quietly watching as Marty and Moog bring their productivity numbers down
BeBobFerrari99 I was thinking the same haha
As Germans they are fretting about being executed at dawn because of a couple Austrailians
no different then when I train people at Cummins especially when they overcycle I just start counting dollar signs :O
They are probably on an offline test bench
Moog said that the workers said Schnell and schaisse alot around them =D
i love the dudes facial expressions towards end while you guys are drifting the car, you can genuinely see he loves the result of the work hes put into the car.
I love the 'patient dad' look on the ford guy when they are drifting.
Joe MacLeod-Iredale yeah he wasn't impressed at all lol..."yep tires gone😐"
10:20 : "Mit Schmackes" means as much as "with force" (colloquial term)
11:55 : "schnell" means "fast", "Scheisse" = "shit" (swearing)
Thanks to Ford for letting us into their factory. Until the RS arrives, next episode we'll be back to Mira with a bunch of rad parts that we picked up in Japan!
Wow, congratulations what an episode, watching this here in Ireland, where we also drive on the correct side of the road! I am assuming this stuff is on TV in AUS? What a great series!
So this is basically the European model that's sold in Australia? (apart from the right hand steering ofcourse)... Cool!
This car is fucking unreal, thanks for bringing us this...and huge congrats on landing an opportunity like this, keep up the incredible work guys
Omg guys. I have been a long time mcm fan, right from the early days. This video you have just walked right up my street. I have always been a through and through ford fan, I have owned nothing but ford, I currently have two ford C-max 's.
I've always been interested that they are built in germany, a majority of them being assembled in Saarlouis, and to see it happening and with you guys getting involved omg I don't know what to say. I'd have loved to have been there and been involved with a ford build at all, but the rs modifications too omg *the excitement takes over*
Many many hanks for this.
daveytn fords shit at least the rs versions seems not
You even had the engineer smile at the end!!! Good job guys
Guillaume Bergeron my personal favorite part of the video. The face of a man watching someone else enjoy something he poured his heart and soul on.
I couldn't help but laugh when I saw him smiling while they were going sideways
Still smiling and calm when the tyre went as well
It's a 1 of 1 car because it came factory with that sticker technically
Thats true.
ok so i just bought an RS last week! OMG this cars amazing and i used to have a 400+ hp s13 180sx, i know fun cars and this is at the top of the list for sure
Just bought mine. Traded in a Hellcat Challenger. RS is a whole different kind of fun but 100% more smiles than the Hellcat!
Good for a first car??
10:46 to 10:54 close your eyes and listen
lmfao
Yep
lol good spot, you got a dirty mind xD
Is there any other sort of mind? :P
"ok so just finger bang it"
As a fellow RS owner I approve this message! What an amazing vid, can't wait to see what happens next!
Love the restrained look on the engineers face in the passengers seat whilst doing donuts....gold! Great Video!
will there be a chopped high-vis vest in the future? in a lot of european countries you have to have one in your car. so why not a mad one?
this would be fantastic
bc if you overdo it with modifying, your chances of breaking down rise
If you're referring to them having one in the Focus, not likely as it's not a requirement in Aus.
If you're referring to merch, maybe, or at worst, put a sticker on one or have it embroidered on professionally
since Aus is in the european song contest its a part of europe. therefore, it will be bullied into copying some silly ideas from France/Germany and boooooom Chopped high-vis vests everywhere
p.s. if i pay to produce merch id put my face on it and not some other brand
steal/borrow one from a workplace put a chopped sticker on it problem slovered
That could be sick for motorbikes too.
Go Ford! (Bias as a am a Ford Engineer who worked on this program) :D
You guys have come so far in such a short time. You know you've hit the big leagues when car manufacturers allow you access to their factory and give you cars to burn the tires off. Congratulations to both of you. I will always be a Mighty Car Mods fan!
German here: "Schmackes" does not techinally mean "smack it!", but rather (at least where I live) we say "mit Schmackes!" if somebody is too carefull wirh something i.e. with hammering a nail, and it means to do something more manfully, which I guess you could say translates to "smack it" :)
Onomatopoeia man. Bam!
so siehts aus :-)
Give it some welly.
In the U.S. we would just say, "Hit it like you mean it." ;)
gute Beschreibung
"Schmackes" means basically "with force" So if you do something with "schmackes" you dont slap it half assed but in full force for example.
ich wollte es auch schon schreiben aber gut du warst schneller
Does anyone else just get chills watching this? From the driveway with hondas to here...MCM is evolving, becoming bigger than they every thought possible, i feel privileged to have seen this progress and i can't wait to see where Mighty Car Mods goes from here -Please come to Adelaide some time for a meet!
I WANT ONE NOW!! Great video guys learnt a lot!
The lead engineer looks like the type of dude who daily drives gt3 rs
With the salary of a lead engineer and living in Germany, id say it is highly likely he does haha
They talk about it in the latest video. Porsche driver.
What impressed me the most was not Fords' stance of "Sure, come build your own car" but the down-to-earth attitude of the entire process. You'd think a lead designer would frown at people altering their design, but he totally accepted it an embraced it by seeing that everyone likes things differently. Plus Ford were so accomodating from the off, even when you blew a tyre they just got you another car to rag around in. I'm honestly amazed by the video, and fingers crossed you guys get to do something similar again!
love it. the engineer tells him to side step the clutch :')
lloydness s that is just how the launch control works. Slam the accelerator until it hits the launch rev limiter, then drop the clutch and the computer takes over. It just automates the usual accelerator feathering and clutch slipping. The actual clutch doesn't actually drop like it does in a regular manual car.
lloydness s cool ✌
Damn Guys im so sad...... i didnt know that you was in Saarlouis its my hometown and i live 5 minutes from the ford factory it would be a pleasure for me to meet you :(.
I'm a fan for years of you and watched every episode.
jop wär echt geil gewesen. war aber echt cool zu sehen wie die in den selben hallen gestanden haben, in denen ich auch schonmal war
Best Focus RS video I have ever seen, including Factory assembly, insights from exterior designer and performance engineer, wow!
Too many salty fucks scared of progression and success here. I still think the content is great, there's only so much home built stuff you can do and it's especially time consuming. They're a busy pair and you get it for free, be glad you get any MCM at all. It's not like they've sold out and every video is a corporate shill for a car that doesn't fit the demographic. At least I got insight in to a car I love and should put a smile in anyone's face who's into a modern drivers car. No one forces you to watch this, you don't own MCM and if you want lots of videos without huge waits while they order or pay for expensive services, they have to go beyond working on old stuff in their own garage.
It's a good thing you are not a salty fuck :DD
I think it's only natural some are a bit worried. I loved this vid and would not mind watching something like this every now and then. But if all their videos became like this a lot of people would loose interest very quickly.
I don't mind the wait if it's worth waiting for.
So, they're not allowed to buy a new car? Or be involved in assembly, seeing how it all happens? They don't really plug anything or compare it to other brands. Seems a lot of the others commenting on other posts are drawing long bows. To me anyway. :shrugs:
I think we are talking about two different points. I was under the impression that the majority complaining are afraid that this is the direction they are moving in rather than upset that they did an advert for Ford Focus RS. I have seen it with other youtubers where they put out a very popular video and then move in that direction due to its success but then everyone is upset because it's not something they want to see every time and eventually that yt ends up going back to his original style.
Marty was buying a new car and they decided to take us on the ride with them. Not like this will be what all the new content is like guys, don't worry.
It's like the video the guys did with the Ford Ranger a while back... yes it was sponsored, yes it was a new car... BUT wholly hell it was still an awesome video to watch just like this one. Regardless if it is a low key commercial or not. Heck I would prefer to watch "commercials" produced like this than the bullcrap force feed down our throats by the corporate fat cats.
Willkommen in Deutschland MCM 🇩🇪 🇦🇺
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Da des schon Monate her is, wird das warscheinlich nix :D
This channel is so good, always with lengthy and interesting videos and the dudes are never cocky about their work.
The germany engineer seems like "oh please leave us alone to work" HAHAHAHAHA I LIKE THIS!! this is how to mess up the car assemble factory
So, this car is going to be replacing evo as daily driver?
X Blocky yee
But marty also got an MR2(?)
X Blocky nah the subaru
already know of someone who traded their 2009 Evo for it so yeah prob lol
So happy for you guys! As the owner of a 17 sti I must say I considered one of these! I'd definitely like to recommend ceramic pro or cquartz ceramic coating to keep it protected! Or even Xpel wrap! Congrats! Huge fan since the first season all those years ago! I've watch all the episodes countless times. Hope to meet you all one day but hey Florida is pretty far away lol.
Wheres the bit where you stick a honda engine in it?
Dogurasu dunno, ask McLaren
Ahoy Hoy dude... You win
Ahoy Hoy how you know nothing
don't these engines have problems? there was some person who had to replace the engine 3 times under warranty...
Dogurasu you realize the focus RS has a four cylinder too right...? LOL
"Engineered for track use", read: "WAY over-engineered for regular street use", which is awesome!
But the the designer engineer said the engine its pretty close to the limit. So how much more power can we safely add to this engine?
@@juancruz-jg5pq probably not that much and still meet their required reliability parameters. Depending on your tolerance for issues, it can still handle more.
Hey Mighty Car Mods! I want to say thank you to both of you Marty and Moog. When you arrive in Germany you could easily go on your journy to Ford and make the RS but no! You set up a little carmeet in Cologne and make lots of people happy to meet you in person. One of the guys there was Rainer with his red Mazda Miata NA. He was a HUGE fan of you and was happy like a little child on christmas. A view days later he died in a motorcycle accident. I personally want to thank you for beeing here and make a wish come true of a man who not live anymore. Thank you so much and keep your good work going on. I look forward to welcome you to Germany again guys!
mit schmackes geht alles
LOS LOS LOS
Mit Schmackes = smash it, mate! Yep, that translation is correct. :D
aber smell ok nit langsam :D
Lel gibt tatsächlich deutsche die MCM schauen geile scheiße haha
Cry Ban ddd6n 990ljj .
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Those spring blocks seem like a game changer for people needing to regularly load lowered cars onto trailers.
I'd much rather just use wood instead of jacking up two to all corners of the car.
blacksail337 yeah because these are a new thing
type-dRew first I've heard of them, so fuck me right?
yes, fuck you
i guess
why not
Or have a trailer that loads flat and then raise it once the car is secured on
Congratulations boys. Things like this only happen to luckiest the people. Very happy for you guys. Looking forward to seeing the MCM Focus RS when it arrives to Australia.
good video as usual guys! nice content..
Next time on Mighty Car Mods: "Focus RS vs STI, Loser sells his car!"
Vitor Oliveira cool ✌
Vitor Oliveira who's sti?
Neil Blum Or WRX. Don't remenber which is it. But im pretty sure you got what i was trying to say.
What about the EVO?
Ultimate Mighty Car Mods Focus RS, Subie STI vs the EVO.
Looser sells the cars and lease an EVO for a year. The EVO must be in background of every Mighty Car Mods video. haha
i wanna see this, but at the same time, i don't because i know the wrx will lose.
This is an absolutely wonderful video. Thank you Mighty Car Mods for putting a smile on my face for all these years.
Welcome to Germany! 😳👍🏻
3:33 Ask the ago old question, "Will this wing fit my Honda?"
4:25 Marty you said it ......WITH LASERZZZ... Now jokes aside i just have to say congrats guys, you really have rolled your sleeves up and taken on the world with your channel you guys really should be proud of yourself with how far you guys of come and the way you guys bring the type of content to us people, its vidz you watch from start to end and thats what people want. 3MILLION and counting. Free to air TV in Australia, who needs it
I wasn't going to watch it because of my disdain for the RS, but I'm glad I did 👍🏼
So cool 😎👍 I am not a ford guy but I want one 😍
cool ✌
82leone "I FUCKIN HATE THE SHIT OF FORD THEY ARE SOO FUCKIN STUPID!"
"But this car is the BEST SHIT EVER LIKE REAL TALK"
(Drives a 1996 camry with an ebay exhaust)
WOW! I had to pause the video just to say how happy I am with it ! You guys have done it!!! the perfect car show !!!! I LOVE IT !!!!
Nice video guys, keep up the great work
Mozza Gamer didn't even watch it yet lol
Im here for the Focus RS & MK7 Golf R drama! 👀
You'll have to allow a few hours for the Golf guys to catch up.
nullr1 a few hours? I know that's a joke but Golf R was tested .2 seconds slower by EVO in a half mile. That's pretty good for being cheaper, a better daily, 8 psi less, and 58 less horsepower.
SGTR ayyye love your vids and channel man!
iHeart GT86 {KatyCat} that's just pure opinion, to me the golf has the same interior as every other VW and the exterior is boring as fuck.
MGRAY241 I prefer the Focus RS. Only way a Golf R is coming close is if its a dsg. Interior is blah for both. But the Golf takes that category.
Hi from the UK, I've just bought a 1 owner, 22,000 mls nitrous blue, Rs shell seats, forged wheels back in January to finally get on the RS band wagon, had it stage 1 mapped with a Sabre tuning live map to 395 bhp its phenomenal, bought as a keeper, if you've never been in one the power and the handling are simply sublime, you can thread it through a series of bends and your going 20-30 mph faster than your passenger thinks you are,,, let the haters hate.
shout out to the spoiler babe at 3:25
I was looking for this lol
Amazing Video Brother
Production values - excellent. Possibly the single best motoring media out there at the moment. Fantastic work lads.
Welcome to the RS Club
How quick did it burn that tyre in drift mode!
Ford made good plays with getting you guys access and you know you've made it big time when you get this kindof access! This was so awesome!
And here I thought I was going to bed...
Anthony Foxx fr😂
Sameeeeeee
Anthony Foxx same brob😂😂
oh shit me to
lol same
3:26 Sheeeesh
shes pretty tho
True
i bet with that spoilers she gonna keep a man down....hahaha
I've got a delivery she can help with.
So cool to see where my RS came from! You guys are going to have a BLAST with this car, so fun to drive! Can't wait for the mods to come, then I will know where to go with mine!
Bumper = bambah lol i laughed so muchXDD
Couple of sore losers in the comments. MCM is not for you, you should be privileged enough to see it for free so quit the whining. Nobody cares if you watched from the start (I did as well) but get out of the past and enjoy content for what it is, Excellent!
manifacturing process, designer and performance engineer involved + test drive. best rs rewiev ever. so bad there wont be any more rses.
Rocker Panel is american apparently. Either owing it's origins to naval terms (a curved keel) or rock (being a protector from rocks).
I'd buy that. But I've always understood the rocker panels to be the sheet metal underneath/behind the lower door sills. Kind of the spot where gravel hit's if you don't have front splash guards/mud flaps. And then side skirts are side skirts.
I wonder why the Germans call it that. Also, as Frontball mentions, the rocker panels are actually under the skirts on these cars.
I live in the US, I've always called them rocker panels. Maybe that's just because I'm more into the wheeling and offroading scene, where they serve that purpose. (Protecting the fragile body from rocks and other obstacles)
History 101 - horseless carriages = cars. Allegedly, the term goes back to horse-drawn carriages. If in doubt, Google it out.
Maybe... or that they get the hell beat out of them by rocks if you drive down gravel roads with no mud flaps.
Last time i was this early, they were strapping a fake blowoff valve on to a freshly painted black civic
I got mad respect for all the people that worked on the RS, my brother has been a die hard Ford fan for 30 years and has always owned ford's. I love German engineering that's why I personally own a vw scirocco 2.0L R-line. But have respect for the jdm scene aswell and of course minis because I am English after all.
20:33 he's trying his best not to smile.
This isn't a Mira!
SideWayz Moose but it has miras
SideWayz Moose ikr
SideWayz Moose
I can see you've played mirary/focusary before!
Just can't get enthusiastic about the Mira build. Stupid, pointless car
SideWayz Moose I
That was by far the best possible advertisement for a Ford Focus RS. Now I know what to buy from a lotto win. Practical in a real world environment and fun to be had as well!
Urgh, This video has hyped me again for the New RS. Still not sure if I should get a used MK2 RS or save a bit more and go for the new RS :/
Save up and get the new one man. I know a couple guys with the Mk2 RS (even one with a Mk1 :D) and it's a great car but... It's still FWD and it will never be as good as an AWD, no matter how much you modify it. One of the dudes upgraded from Mk2 to Mk3 and said it's a night and day difference. My budget is a little tighter so I have the Fiesta ST, but if I could buy the new RS, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
Mhh, the main reason I am considering the MK2 is the 5 Cylinder. I curently drive the Mk2 ST and love the sound. Love the feel. Also don't like the Idea of "Sound Enhancements" via the Speakers.
Yeah, but the 5cyl (ESPECIALLY on the RS) isn't among the most reliable. 2 people already had to have completely new engines brought in (one after just 30 000 kilometres!) Both of them had the RS - I do think that Ford might have sacrificed some durability for power in the RS. If it comes to it, you can disable the "sound symposer" in the RS Mk3 quite easily if you find you hate it. But I'd say the Mk3 is a vastly superior car and it's well worth the tradeoff in the form of "fake sound". Besides, even if you turn off the symposer, it still sounds great. :)
Also - I have the sound symposer too in the Fiesta ST and it's actually really good. I was super skeptical about it at first too, but Ford really nailed it. The car is about ME anyway, the fact that people outside don't really hear the same stuff that I do stopped bothering me a while ago - I'm having a blast anyway. :)
Well, only way to know is a test drive. ;D
What happened to the MIRA?
Give em a couple of days, it's in the works.
Brandon Otte waiting on hard to find parts to arrive
Thanks for the reply, am eagerly waiting the next episode, cheers.
Congrats on your purchase... and certainly on the opportunity to visit the factory and participate in the build. I haven't been a fan of Ford for years, but the new Mustang and the Focus RS are improving my opinion.
To bad Ford didn't allow you to chop off the back end and make a Ford rs Ute. It would have been more valuable.
Schnell: fast
Scheiße: shit
Jaco2023 Mine Sceheiße ist schnell, Fast poo...no thank you
Ad Schmackes: a word used by locals, which means using your physical power and strengh.
philsbruno which you shall never use as its something 60+ year olds say
well i thought "Schmackes" is a pretty common word here in Saarland. Atleast I use it alot at work.
Greetings from Saarbrücken
Schmackes:
Multi use.
Do it with power/force - with Schmackes.
Mighty Car Mods just keeps getting better and better from quality to content its just awesome all round, mad respect from Trinidad. (y)
The Focus RS is a beautiful blend of US Muscle and Engineering, mixed with elegance of European Design. If I had the cabbage, I so would buy one. The AWD would be both functional here in Ohio, and also fun to drive.
It was Not engineerd in America tho
10:50 "Just fingerbang it?"
I think very few people get to appreciate what it takes from an engineering standpoint and a manufacturing standpoint to make a product like this. Literally thousands of people. But in the end, you can have something amazing, repeatable and made with quality.
"Making" A brand new Car is MADDDDD.
in spanish recaro could be mean like really expensive XD
ed rage Recarisimo
I've been following you guys for so long, and you two have become better and better. I love each and everyone of yalls videos and watching this clean and madd edited piece, in the fact that it is one of yalls best examples of just how good yalls channel is. Music is Madd, video quality is madd, and the over all enjoyment that this video gave me is super madd. I'm still smiling and giggling like my one of my pre-teen daughters. Thank you guys for this channel and showing yalls love and enthusiasm for vehicles and the possibilities of these vehicles.
I'm happy that you guys are going ton work on a "American" car brand. But ppl don't know that is more of a Euro car. Why? They been having it for years!!! And America just got it in 2016. The ST came to America in 2013. I'm really happy. I'm a Focus ST owner and hope one day I'll get my hands on a RS!!!
In Australia we get nearly all the Euro goodies :) sometimes we don't if they don't convert them to RHD for us but we are sometimes lucky and get Euro cars unique to our shores such as the the E36 M3-R which i'm pretty sure was the most powerful road going M3 from the factory at the time!
not even out the factory, we'll fix that later...
Such an amazing and incredible experience to be added to your awesome work :) you're definitely the best
Schnell means quick or fast. Scheiße meas sh*t. So if you're hearing Schnell and Scheiße a lot then I think someone is suffering from diarrhoea...
loggstar you are completeley right in your translation
The guys said they heard the words "schnell" and "scheiße", they didn't see they heard the words being used next to each other. I'm guessing it was something like "S*it, these guys need to work faster!"
loggstar ✌
Merde!
spritzkacke :D
Is that the guy from psychedsubstance
Richard F Adam? Where?
Yo dont steal my name
I have a '17 Nitrous Blue RS. Cool to see the 'behind of the scenes' of how it was built. Always wondered what the Saarlouis factory was like.
20:35 - typical German emotions -- ZERO :D
My eyes were closing earlier now they can't
Awesome watch! Great work boys, was a lot of fun to watch!
My car was made there 😎
Badgertronix i live there xD
Badgertronix So was mine lol
Schnell : Faster
Scheisse : Shit
Finally!!!!!! I've been waiting for this day for so long! Outstanding you guys I'm so jealous I want one so bad!
0 to 100 mph in 4 seconds? Was that accurate?
Trials and Tribulations kilometers per hour
100 kilometers is 60 mph
MGRaiden64 ...62mph
Derek St. Gelais is your woman sweet?
Trials and Tribulations 0-60 mph in 4.7 sec
This focus will definetly not fit in your honda
HEY GUYS... Just to let you know, here in the U.S. those side skirts have always been known as "rocker panels". I assume it's because if you high-center your car over a large hump, it will rock back and forth on them. (Or at least appear to.) I've been calling them "rocker panels" all my life, for 50 years, because I didn't know there were other names for them. I had never heard the term "side skirts" until I saw someone like yourself on the RUclipss refer to them by that name. If I remember right, that video was somebody from the U.K.
Hey, we all learn new things every day, and that just makes Life a little bit better all the time! That's one of the coolest things about RUclips, being able to learn stuff like this from countries all over the world. And I've learned quite a lot about everyday life in Australia, just by watching your videos. That's one of the best things about living in today's Global Information Age...
Welcome to the future! We kind of like it here... :D
the germans have robots with lasers? ... fuck, we are all doomed
Laser nazi robots lol
Michelle was like, beeilen Sie sich jetzt!!!!!
What?
The side skirts have always been called rocker panels. It was one of the first things that would rust in a lot of Italian cars. In 125 Fiats (1968 -) it was around the mating of the B pillar to the rocker panel. What a great video and very surprised that Ford Germany gave you the opportunity.
Ill say it.. This made me want to buy a ford.
Same, good promo for Ford. But I'm sticking with BMW anyway :)
***** i really want an older bmw. Not alot of sellers in my area with reasonable prices.