Why It’s Important to BET YOUR HAND in Poker

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  • Опубликовано: 4 фев 2025

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  • @ticenits1926
    @ticenits1926 2 года назад +8

    All this really ultimately highlights is the importance of position. You simply can't play your hands effectively when you're first to act, because you're just guessing as to what your opponents are going to do

  • @danielmeuler2877
    @danielmeuler2877 Год назад +1

    I Fucking Love Rivers Des Plaines!! One of the Softest, Easiest Poker Rooms I have ever played. Northern Ill has money to burn apparently. If I told you my hourly average I have there, I would be mocked and laughed at and called a liar.

  • @derekmcfarland9894
    @derekmcfarland9894 Год назад +1

    I have increased my betting since listening to barts videos and it's way more profitable. I hardly slow play because it's actually a little more obvious when people do it. Fast play at low stakes.

  • @gordonbelle1375
    @gordonbelle1375 2 года назад +2

    Potential callers, this is how you conduct yourself during a call. I will leave it to others to analyze his play, but great job on the call itself.

  • @burkhartlaw1
    @burkhartlaw1 Год назад

    Bart has taught me to never slow play. It has earned me a lot. Totally changed how I play based on his advice. People like to call with draws so I always bet when I hit my hand whether it's a flush or trips or a set.

    • @danielmeuler2877
      @danielmeuler2877 11 месяцев назад

      at low stakes, unless you flopped the Absolute Nuts, Slow Playing is suicide for your hand and your win rate. After listening to Bart, I stopped the "Cute Crap" and my win rate went WAY up. For the reasons you already stated. Betting Thin value has also been huge for me.

  • @intrepidus3378
    @intrepidus3378 2 года назад +6

    It's crazy that people will call with primary draws on paired boards and then not bet when they get there (QJcc). But they do! In lower stakes games, you just have to bet the FH here. All the draws are just happy they got there and want to see the showdown.
    Players are more afraid of tough decisions than they are happy about value bets with big hands.

  • @qsdailydose8970
    @qsdailydose8970 2 года назад +1

    I love how Bart gets into the hand as if he’s playing and has a reaction

  • @rambojohnj.6117
    @rambojohnj.6117 2 года назад +2

    Bart, you are a living legend. Thank you for your content.

    • @markelder6497
      @markelder6497 2 года назад

      Agreed I love these hand reviews 🙌

  • @rhcp9009
    @rhcp9009 2 года назад +9

    Great content Bart! It happens to the best of us…just no way am I checking to a one liner & a flush completed multi way when I have a boat. Checking is only good if your opponent needs/has to bluff. Too much show down value here on these type of single paired middling board textures any 55678, 7789T, 99876 etc have boats abound, straights are happy to snap check!

  • @markstevens3078
    @markstevens3078 2 года назад

    I favor hero check raise on flop. If you can get to heads up this hand gets easier to analyze.

  • @Declan4253
    @Declan4253 2 года назад

    Where do you play in NH? Boston Billiards or Chasers? The games are pretty good in Dover and Manchester.

  • @sneakkyz3696
    @sneakkyz3696 2 года назад +10

    At 2:53 and smh...... if you don't raise here you're just a bad player.... sorry it is what it is. "Don't want to blow someone off" he says. Bro do you realize that even if you raise here no over pair is folding yet. No flush draw is folding yet. And more than likely a straight draw isn't folding either. You have to get money in the pot. At the end of the video and LMAO 🤣 😂 😆 YOU CHECKED THE RIVER????? WTF! DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THERE'S SO MANY HANDS THAT WILL CALL A HUGE BET HERE? HOLY SHIT I CAN'T STAND CALLERS LIKE THIS. At the same time it's nice knowing there's people like this at the tables still.

    • @CaNtHoNY127
      @CaNtHoNY127 2 года назад +3

      you seem fun

    • @pot_kivach160
      @pot_kivach160 2 года назад

      😂😂

    • @sneakkyz3696
      @sneakkyz3696 2 года назад

      @@CaNtHoNY127 just speaking my mind. This was just insane from start to finish

    • @michaelp43
      @michaelp43 2 года назад

      Caller wasn't aggressor on any street, he check-called both on the flop and the turn. Waking up with a huge donk bet on the river, which you seem to believe is the standard play here, is problematic for two reasons.
      If your river check range doesn't contain any nuttish hands, even when you just check-called on the prior streets, good players will take notice and will make your life hell by bombing the river with overbet bluffs.
      Also, if you aren't balancing your "huge [donk] bets" with bluffs (in 3-way pot, no less), and I highly suspect you aren't, you are also exploitable in the other direction.

    • @conorm2524
      @conorm2524 2 года назад

      @@sneakkyz3696 Bruh, you triggered?

  • @moaf2padventures757
    @moaf2padventures757 2 года назад +7

    so as much as i hate the way hero played this overall, i think his read on the river that somebody made a flush and would bet it is pretty reasonable. i think hero got a little unlucky here bc CO should probably be betting his flush on the river.

    • @blakefredrickson6506
      @blakefredrickson6506 Год назад

      I kind of agree, but Bart also had a good point. Sure, a flush is usually going to bet if checked to, but would he then call a check raise? He may not, especially without the A high flush.
      If he wouldn’t, you might as well just lead the river to ensure he pays you. He’s more likely to call the lead than he is to bet when checked to, plus you get to control the price. Lead pot instead of giving him the opportunity to bet half pot.

  • @floobybadoop6814
    @floobybadoop6814 2 года назад +2

    This is gonna make me so paranoid, anytime I see a table of MAWGs just checking, I’m just gonna assume they’re all slowplaying a monster because they will never bet with their best made hands 😂

  • @jacobbirkenfeld9261
    @jacobbirkenfeld9261 2 года назад +7

    Depending on the skill of the players, and that the 10 brings in the flush draw, do we ever bet this river at 15-20% pot in the attempt to get either A: 2 calls from marginal holdings or B: get flushed to raise small for value?

    • @benmackay7525
      @benmackay7525 2 года назад

      I thought similar make it 150-180 and hope to get raised, then reraise. I just don't see how we lose here unless except cooler pocket 8

    • @PhonyBologna
      @PhonyBologna 2 года назад +4

      In theory non-multiway it's good to block bet 1/3 and 3b if raised with both FH and 7x as it's now a good bluff candidate...

    • @benmackay7525
      @benmackay7525 2 года назад

      @@aheroictaxidriver3180 surely 10's would raise at some point and continue to bet

    • @benmackay7525
      @benmackay7525 2 года назад +2

      @@aheroictaxidriver3180 mad much

    • @rhyschen
      @rhyschen 2 года назад

      Always bet your hand can't afford the chance of a Check back when player with flush will probably call a reasonable bet anyways. Why would he stay to the river with a flush draw just to fold when he makes his flush?

  • @JMTavares7
    @JMTavares7 2 года назад +2

    Any merit on betting something like $150 on the river? Had the advantage of a greater potential of a double flat which is just as profitable as a single call of $300, also more possibility a made flush raises.

  • @dantaylor3871
    @dantaylor3871 2 года назад +2

    what if you lead the river 80, trying to get raised...

  • @rhyschen
    @rhyschen 2 года назад +2

    You should almost always bet or Check raise on a draw heavy board. Especially with a flush and straight draw on board. And we certainly will get guy with 97 to commit his entire stack on the flop after a bet. He would probably raise us after we bet first.

    • @rhyschen
      @rhyschen 2 года назад

      Based on the preflop raise villain could be holding an overpair and may think you are bluffing, raising with a draw type hand he will definitely call a bet and not putting you on a 7 just yet.

  • @anthonysomilleda7541
    @anthonysomilleda7541 2 года назад

    I’m ok with the check at flop but I’d bet the turn and bet light on river to fish for a raise from a flush

  • @fevolenko3995
    @fevolenko3995 2 года назад +8

    I immediately thought lead $400/$450 on the perfect river. You only lose to 88 and that seems super unlikely. They BOTH are putting money in on turn - the most likely hands are better trips you sucked out on, straight draws that got there, and flushes.
    And they had both.
    I think you get 1 caller 100% of the time and both call like 25-35% of the time.
    If you're calling double gappers out of position it's ludicrous to check the effective nuts when you "get there"

    • @JiveDadson
      @JiveDadson 2 года назад +1

      Two straight flushes

    • @tylerslenk8243
      @tylerslenk8243 2 года назад +3

      ya there's straight flushes and TT

    • @modelsmanagement2374
      @modelsmanagement2374 2 года назад

      shoulda woulda coulda

    • @fevolenko3995
      @fevolenko3995 2 года назад

      @@JiveDadson this comment is a huge sign showing you don't really understand poker

    • @fevolenko3995
      @fevolenko3995 2 года назад

      @@tylerslenk8243 this comment is a huge sign showing you don't really understand poker

  • @chelsea9686
    @chelsea9686 2 года назад +4

    Bart, if you could answer this really quick
    I had a very similar hand to this one, I nut boated up on the river that completed the front door flush. I bet, villain raises. I speech played and said, "Well if that diamond helped you.... oh well, all in". Snap call, throws the cards to reveal the flush, I flip the boat with no slow roll at all. Guy gets very mad at me for the speech play. Next 4-5 times I bet, he moves all in $2000 on $100 pots. Everyone is getting pissed. Only the villain and one other player thought what I did was wrong. A small argument ensues back to my hand that happened 20-25 hands ago at this point. What would you do? I got up and left.

    • @iambadatpickingusernames6669
      @iambadatpickingusernames6669 2 года назад

      I would wait until I had top pair or better and collected the $2,000 donation from the tilted moron.

    • @Mathemagical55
      @Mathemagical55 2 года назад +3

      Don't antagonise the fish!

    • @datsumcrzysht
      @datsumcrzysht 2 года назад +4

      The mistake you made was leaving. Players with poor emotional control make for great sessions. Someone that night was on the lucky end of that guy’s frustration/tilt and by getting up, you missed out on the opportunity. Additionally, don’t bother explaining yourself, you don’t need to validate your game to anyone but yourself.

    • @chelsea9686
      @chelsea9686 2 года назад +2

      @@datsumcrzysht I get that. The issue was he was shoving every time I bet, $2000 into a 100-200 pot. Im sure everyone was hoping for AA when he did it, but after 5 times, people just got pissed off. I left not for me, but for the other players. Im more wondering if other people, or Bart, might think my speech play was wrong.

    • @pot_kivach160
      @pot_kivach160 2 года назад +1

      @@datsumcrzysht well put.

  • @robert2375
    @robert2375 2 года назад

    when you aren't the preflop raiser, and are OOP, when is good time to donk/take the lead and when are terrible times to do so?

  • @drfunkinstein1
    @drfunkinstein1 2 года назад

    There's so many boats out there that the queen high flush probably just wanted it to check through.

  • @Keptionpoker
    @Keptionpoker 2 года назад +1

    Even for a nutflush its kinda suicide to bet, so i would do that bet for the nutflush to feel better and end up happy calling

  • @williampu899
    @williampu899 2 года назад +1

    range advantage doesn't matter, blockers don't matter, GTO is - ev.

  • @rhyschen
    @rhyschen 2 года назад

    If I checked the flop and guy with 97 bets and the flusher guy calls I'd go all in and say I want to see all possible cards stating that I'm on a draw of some sort (inadvertently). Then we would get 97 to call off his entire stack.

  • @RealmsOfThePossible
    @RealmsOfThePossible 2 года назад +1

    I would have went hero pot on the river for sure in this hand.

  • @nolimitpoker
    @nolimitpoker 2 года назад

    I’m never in this spot. But I’m fast playing the flop overbet turn mixing block or jam. The Co here on the river does ant beat anything but bluffs his clubs block all the flush draws that would play this way. Unless button or straddle are vip maybe they raise a 9

  • @markstevens3078
    @markstevens3078 2 года назад +1

    Call the co open from button with 97o and straddle still to come. Good way to lose money.

  • @zerrez9791
    @zerrez9791 2 года назад +3

    the overcall on the flop might actually seem stronger than raising the flop. As if i had an overpair I would check most turns. and so it's up to the btn player if there will be any money put in to the pot on the turn.

    • @88mphDrBrown
      @88mphDrBrown 2 года назад +1

      People are way more likely to think it's a club draw OTF. If you call then xr the turn on a brick it looks exponentially stronger, plus you might not even get the chance to raise like you said.

  • @paulmcdougald4953
    @paulmcdougald4953 2 года назад

    When ur blocking 10-9 bluffs u need to check raise flop bet turn and all in river. Nightmare scenario for caller here

  • @adamg.5997
    @adamg.5997 2 года назад

    What if the hero throws out a blocker bet of $75-$100 trying to induce a raise from the made flush? I think I like that play more than trying to check raise that river. Looks like a 7 trying to set its price cheap.

  • @markelder6497
    @markelder6497 2 года назад +1

    WHY NOT JAM ON THE FREAKING TURN

  • @ryanbahnsen6429
    @ryanbahnsen6429 Год назад +1

    Checking marginal made hands is fine, but you need to bet for value here with the 2nd nuts. Getting cute usually just results in you losing value/win rate.
    Besides check raising looks even stronger than a lead here imo.

    • @brendonw456
      @brendonw456 Год назад

      It's actually not the 2nd nuts. The nut hands, in order, are:
      J9cc
      96cc
      TT
      88
      T7
      Hero's hand is, actually the 5th nuts, and realistically the 4th nuts (since J9cc might chase, but 96cc making it to the flop AND THEN chasing is a hell of a reach).
      He's quite literally got the 3rd smallest full house. The full houses he beats are:
      T6
      87
      That said, there's A LOT of other monster hands that he beats here, obviously, so there's no reason to not be betting. He only loses to other full houses and straight flushes

  • @Peter-zg3em
    @Peter-zg3em 2 года назад +1

    Gotta get those vpips up on stream 😂

  • @matthewgriffin9104
    @matthewgriffin9104 Год назад

    Raising the flop he may get both stacks in.

  • @evrenturan5632
    @evrenturan5632 2 года назад

    Cr flop to 140, bet 66% on turn, shove river. That is how you maximize your value hands...

  • @robertw8897
    @robertw8897 2 года назад +1

    So, 3 hands walk into a bar.......a straight, a flush and a full house........

  • @myCuzinVinny
    @myCuzinVinny 2 года назад +2

    A 8 Hearts

  • @tejeda7324
    @tejeda7324 2 года назад

    I love set mining and stacking all these “range” “math” “position” “Pros”

  • @adamseidel9780
    @adamseidel9780 2 года назад +4

    It is very tempting to play slow and tricky on the flop to avoid blowing the others off the pot, but with the action that comes we see the mistake made. Make a modest c/r on the flop and take the betting lead. You have plenty of high flush draw and straight draw bluffs there, it’s totally credible, and isn’t as strong as a turn c/r looks.
    What do people think a good flop c/r sizing is? I’d probably make it $110 for a roughly 1/3 pot raise. Enough to get the pot built up and still keep CO’s draws in the pot, although that does give too good a price to the button often. Thoughts?
    Edit: posted this on the turn. The river is a huge bailout to this poor line. This is a giant invitation to lead and get high and nut flushes to go nuts on you. What a card that bails put the line. Awful, awful check.

    • @adamshort2534
      @adamshort2534 2 года назад

      Both these comments are reasonable. In the strategy forums I look at there tends to be way more flop trapping than is optimal, especially out of position.
      However, it is also the case that many of the fish behaviors we all know and love - especially getting too sticky with a high card hand - on a lot of flops are actually closer to optimal response to raises than playing fit or fold. Oop sometimes needs to bet -call with some hands that look pretty weak in order to have enough defends.
      So in position on the flop vs these player types it's not usually correct to force the issue. They will make bigger mistakes on later streets and you still have plenty of time to grow the pot

    • @adamseidel9780
      @adamseidel9780 2 года назад

      @@adamshort2534 in position I think I definitely agree. OOP, not so much. This is confirmed for me by CO’s nitty river check.

    • @adamshort2534
      @adamshort2534 2 года назад

      @@adamseidel9780 yeah I agree trapping out of position is usually bad unless there is some specific reason the hand plays better as a trap. Sometimes with your very worst trips getting the money in isn't great because you'll mostly just run into better hands, but in that case you don't want to raise turn either

  • @danielk810
    @danielk810 2 года назад

    Missed a potential double up or more

  • @christopherdowning7776
    @christopherdowning7776 2 года назад +4

    He should have made $3500 on hand but instead made $400 😂

  • @upbreaker7055
    @upbreaker7055 2 года назад +2

    Bet he won't make that mistake again. !. O wait he's human.. ofcourse he will.

  • @timmyp34
    @timmyp34 2 года назад

    Yeah, you got to bet that full house. At least $400

  • @avery465
    @avery465 2 года назад +1

    So much missed value on that river.

  • @CribNotes
    @CribNotes 2 года назад

    Bet 200 on the river and get called by both.....next time. LOL

  • @Dan0rioN
    @Dan0rioN 2 года назад

    He played it perfectly... Sure you can always say he COULD have won more but fail to realise he could have LOST more... Different story if he had the nuts but he never did at any point... Perfect play!!!

    • @EllieBanks333
      @EllieBanks333 Год назад

      That's crazy talk.

    • @Dan0rioN
      @Dan0rioN Год назад

      @@EllieBanks333 Based on?

    • @EllieBanks333
      @EllieBanks333 Год назад

      @@Dan0rioN Actual poker knowledge. I mean what is this "Different story if he had the nuts but he never did at any point". You do not play for the nuts in poker.

    • @Dan0rioN
      @Dan0rioN Год назад

      @@EllieBanks333 You don't play for the nuts & you don't play like you have them all the time either XD

  • @DescartesRenegade
    @DescartesRenegade 2 года назад

    I blame the CO for not betting river. Caller is obvious noob, so don't blame him after that atrocious postfop flat.

  • @elliotf7262
    @elliotf7262 2 года назад

    this is a call with 72dd pre lmao....

    • @elliotf7262
      @elliotf7262 2 года назад

      thouhgt i twas hu, but this is still a snap call or 3 bet

  • @atanasdzhivdzhanov4252
    @atanasdzhivdzhanov4252 2 года назад

    When they coment how this could be a fold preflop I was like nah this must be 100% call. Maybe even 3b sometimes. I checked it on pokercoaching and indeed it is 100% call vs CO and mix call/raise vs BTN open. Given that BTN over called and hero said it's a lose game if I have the right image (everyone persives me tight and I know even tho they are splashy they are capable of folding) I might load the 3 bullets and just go for it starting with a 3b preflop to around 150-160. Hero says it's a splashy game but doesn't check raise with trip 7s vs co and btn on a board that hits their range. What a joke. Hero says it's a splashy game but doesn't lead river. If BTN calls with 97o pre I wonder what his calling range looks on this run out. Probably we stack him 90% of the time.

  • @mewalrus
    @mewalrus 2 года назад +1

    Bart, You wouldn't call this on HCL, quit lying. We all saw you play.
    I love you, love CLP, love your commentary, but let's get real.

  • @hattershouse710
    @hattershouse710 2 года назад

    710

  • @daveythehand4964
    @daveythehand4964 2 года назад +2

    Such a waste.

  • @shawntroidl1073
    @shawntroidl1073 2 года назад

    Cutesy? Jesus . How old are we

  • @joshsheppard21
    @joshsheppard21 2 года назад

    Not trying to criticize the guy too much but man he butchered this hand lol

  • @jimbosavage
    @jimbosavage 2 года назад +29

    This guy is not a good player lol.

    • @keithkelso9872
      @keithkelso9872 2 года назад +2

      He’s not bad

    • @mtgoxsucks435
      @mtgoxsucks435 2 года назад +1

      @@keithkelso9872 maybe not but he played this one like a fish. His reasoning is consistent with a bad player.

    • @lexopoker
      @lexopoker 2 года назад +26

      Jimbob is so good at poker he can establish how good a player is from hearing 1 hand history. Wow.

    • @Noondroid
      @Noondroid 2 года назад +5

      If you tag players from just one hand, you're not a good player lol

    • @Moneyovertruth
      @Moneyovertruth 2 года назад +1

      @@lexopoker I mean most decent players can gauge your skill level during one hand review... not anything crazy here

  • @sethno1ram1
    @sethno1ram1 2 года назад

    poor poor poor.

  • @gearysea3219
    @gearysea3219 2 года назад

    Cheating on the The Lodge Live stream I can prove it Bart. Email me. Its on the Latest The Lodge video that was put out named "She CANT lose at Poker". The folded Nut flush vs Full house hand with Justin and Kendall. See my comments on that video for time stamps

  • @mariokos1022
    @mariokos1022 2 года назад +2

    Mann, be honest, is really hard to be professional poker player, how to pay the bills, food, what if i have children etc... Nobody is talk about major problem.., what to do if your downswings last at least 2,3 months and just cant win, and poker is your only job and you must pay for food and bills, fuel etcc... I think that you cant play poker without side job... Its really really hard, or unless if you have rich parents or if you have at least 500 000$ in the bank to surrvive the downswings.. It will be good if you talk about this on your chanel.. Cheers

    • @fevolenko3995
      @fevolenko3995 2 года назад +1

      I can confirm. Lost my job when covid started and started playing to live when casino reopened.
      I played winning and loving life for 18 mths then ran like Hitler The Pedophile reincarnated being punished for 6months straight that wiped me out.
      Every time I slightly build the start of a bankroll I get a big bill and I'm back to square one. Add the stress and "why me" incredulous anger and your mind starts going apeshit. "I'm cursed" etc. It's tough.
      I decided last month to try to live minimalist for 6 months to just put 2k away and have 5 $400 bullets for 2/5. I'll play like a super nit initially - call me Knish - and just try to not flip AK all in etc. (Because I lose 9/10 when dominating - haven't won a flip since 2016 🤪)

    • @Mathemagical55
      @Mathemagical55 2 года назад +2

      If you can consistently play better than your opponents then you will make money. All the rest is just bankroll management. You probably need 100 buyins so a bankroll of $100K should suffice, not $500K.

    • @chriskoshinski
      @chriskoshinski 2 года назад +1

      It's an extremely hard job.... very few can do it but money management is probably more important then skill.

    • @lyticaLx
      @lyticaLx 2 года назад +1

      Poker is the side job lmao

    • @adamshort2534
      @adamshort2534 2 года назад

      Talk to any working pro and this is the very first thing they will explain to you.
      There is much less money in poker than you would think. You can make a decent living but almost no one makes a fortune. Average pros make what a bus driver makes. Really good pros make what a cop makes. The income isn't steady and the lifestyle is hard to manage. It's like a lot of tough professions in that if you could see yourself doing something else, probably do that.