There’s nothing wrong with pursuing religious education. Pesantren existed even before formal schooling existed in Indonesia. Anyone who hates on it don’t give enough credit on their roles and meaningful influence. Several rouge schools does not mean that the model does not work. If thats really the case, our traditional schooling system should also come into question a long time ago.
@@muhammadsecret8783 small nation? which one? the one that has GDP per capita of EUR 3.710 or the one that has GDP per capita EUR 57.337? or the one that has 50 F15 Strike Eagle, 60 F16 Falcon, 15 AH 64 Apache, with around 2.000 air to air missiles such as AMRAAM, Sidewinder, etc VS the one the has 16 Su27/30 and 33 of used F16 fighting falcon, and with only less than 200 air to air missiles? LoL.
@@deddy9675 Strength of nation is based on overall GDP figure, not GDP percapita. Go see which one that can withstand USA or China attack, Indonesia or Singapore ? Figure it out. What happen in Vietnam, Afghanistan, and in recent time in Ukraine is the prove. Those war machines own by Singapore will be easily destroyed by power like USA and China. Correction,use 2021 data dude, Indonesia 2021 GDP percapita has already been around 4.500 USD
Many of alumni from this school become high profile politician even Indonesia's current vice president is a Product of 'pesantren' and this off course Will influence their policy including budgeting
3:05 What is with the Kalashnikovs in the logo and the Arabic “La azza ila bil jihad” (“there is no greater honor than jihad)? One would have to be blind to not immediately see something suspicious about this. Was that shot taken before or after vetting that school? It seems the school inspectors wouldn’t know if a truck hit them in the face.
@@volksraad6253 Yeah why don't you tell that to millions of warmongering abdools dreaming of subduing and conquering non-believers and their countries.
Discrimination??? Did u know? It's not just for islamic Schools,, we have other religious schools and universities like Christian and hindu, and the government funds them too.. And religion is one of our people's interest...
@@deddy9675 IAKN (Institut Agama Kristen Negeri), UHN (Universitas Hindu Negeri), they are state universities and of course funded by the government. But private religious education institutions can also get funding from the Ministry of religion affairs.. Dari komen2 anda di video ini, saya yakin kalau anda ini orang Indonesia.
@@hendrayana3798 it's discrimination, those religions are not form Indonesia :D why should the government of Indonesia provide funding for foreign religions? There are 29 Islamic State University, 24 Islamic State Institute, more than 577 MAN, more than 1.686 MIN :D And how many Non Islamic Universities that are funded by the Government ? :D Why would the government provide funding to those religious schools? :D Islamization by politics? Islamization by government funding?
@@hendrayana3798 So, after the figure that I showed you; do you still think that there is no discrimination in Indonesia? :D Why would the government provide funding to those religious schools while it should preserve the culture of Nusantara? Islam and Christianity are not from Indonesia. There are so many local religions but why the government doesn't provide funding to those local religions in order to preserve the tradition and culture of Indonesia?
Mau tau kenapa Indonesia stuck menjadi negara berkembang dan kesulitan dan hampir mustahil jadi negara maju? Karena dari kecil kita diajarin bersyukur dan puas dengan yang kita punya. Sisi positifnya kita taulah hasil bersyukur tp sisi negatifnya, kita gak kepikiran untuk berusaha mengubah kondisi kita menjadi lebih baik. Mungkin katanya berusaha tapi apa kita berusaha sampai kek titik darah penghabisan? Nope. Kita kan harus bersyukur dengan yang kita punya, gausah rakus. ...umm, right?
Syukur itu wajib, tapi koruptor yg harus dibasmi dari indonesa, kalo semua rakyat tdk mau bersyukur dan jauh dari agama maka otomatis banyak kejahatan perampokan, pembunuhan, dan koruptor, karna ajaran islam 2 inti sikap yaitu sabar dan sukur
Justru kita ga maju karena ga bersyukur Lihat betapa rakus nya masyarakat indonesia, contohnya yg di video ini mereka ga bersyukur bisa dengan bebas beragama dan menjalani ritual keagamaan, akhirnya jadi teroris dan radikal
@@abdul9662 contoh yg gampang deh. Mawar, pengusaha ekonomi menengah-bawah yg suka ikutan jualan barang yg lagi ngetren. Mawar cuma jual barang yg bisa dibeli murah dan dijual mahal, alias suka cari untung gede. Gak peduli kualitas barang, brandingnya, apalagi kepercayaan dan kepuasan pelanggan, yg penting bulan itu penghasilannya banyak bulan depan liat tren baru dulu. Mawar gak mikirin jangka panjang bisnisnya gimana yg jelas bulan pertama mulai bisnis udah kembali modal, jelas ogah klo sampe rugi barang buat promosi dan diskon krn minjam di bank gak boleh telat bayar.
it looks like a lot of commenters didn't watch this video to the end. at first I felt.. eh??? but getting here, the more my view opens.. Initially, I thought that islamic boarding school only studied religion. apparently they are also equipped with general subjects, patriotism for the country, extracurricular activities, foreign languages, and even business knowledge to create new jobs. complete package.. nice.
terrible to see this funding of terrorism and extremism in education! indonesia is a multicultural contry not a muslim one despite being majority! this sucks
@@muhammadsecret8783 calm down, it's the American. Maybe they should take care of their educational system first before comment on other nation's system 💀
@@pw2020 It is Muslim country, see CNA video some days ago about Indian BJP party spokeperson who talks nasty about prophet Muhammad. That has already been accepted by international community, that Muslim nation term, look like you are rarely reading serious media like Reuters, CNN, and others
@@muhammadsecret8783 Well, I read your comment then I looked at this video from CNA titled "India under fire as Muslim nations lash out over Prophet Mohammed remarks" and indeed the reporter called Indonesia the largest Muslim country, I can understand why you considered the term appropriate for Indonesia. But I would still disagree with that term (Muslim country) being use for Indonesia because my definition of Muslim country included the implementation of sharia law country wide (by government) which only being implement in part of Indonesia (Aceh). Which made me concluded that our disagreement with the use of Muslim country term is because we have different definition of what is a Muslim country. If I may ask, what is your definition of Muslim country? what would you consider to make a country a Muslim country?
@@pisaukaratan Religion was never part of politic in archipelagos, also islam is not the right religion to be put on politics, since our civilization was buddhism, our culture are also from buddhism, it should be buddhism, animism and hinduism have the elligible to run on the goverment level, as it was before.
Nietzsche already did that back in the 19th century, and yet religions prevail and flourish today. Partly because of how bloody the first organized Atheism was, ie. Communism. Lessons learned: religion is bloody, Atheism is no better.
Poor people go to kind of this school, rich family send their children to the private, no choice. Politic should away from religion. ISIS is crusader, same. But Christian get improved,this time program not a good insight
Totally wrong, even some rich parents send their children to this "kind of school" . So how Catholic "Okay" with their Catholic school and then Islam don't ? Did you ever know the islamic school in Indonesia actually often way more expensive than state owned one ? And did you know half of the curriculum are general subjects like mathematics, economic, intrepeneurship and science ? And some schools used english as their teaching language ? Islamic school in Indonesia are way more modern than what you can ever imagine!
@@ahmadin5681 1. because no Catholics, at least in the past 10 years, after graduating form the Catholic school become a suicide bomber; Do you remember the family suicide bombers who attacked churches in Surabaya in 2018? 2. The Catholic schools are not funded by public money :D The government of Indonesia must stop spending government budget through religious schools. Religious Communities have to build their own schools, and let the public money build more national schools.
bro School pesantren Is a place to learn religion, where we learn about religion that still can't be smart, school is at least 6 years if wrong until you become a teacher after graduation.
😁😁the capitalists and slaves of money. Listen, it's none of your business we go to a religious school. I will even put my child in a religious school for his good morals and character. to be able to respect humans and other living things. Life is not about money, but peace of mind that is in accordance with the morals that exist in society that are taught in religion.
@@surursajidunisa1308Your prophet had 9-11 wives and killed people as well as stealing from others. Islam doesn’t have the 10 commandments both in Judaism and Christianity…the heck are you talking about?
Assalamalaikum Brother. E and my family interested to live in Indonesia. What about schooling system in Indonesia class / grade 11, 9, 7 and Hifz class. AHMAR HAFEEZ Pakistan
Wa'alaikumussalam brother, there's a plenty of option in Indonesia. There are Public school, Private school, Islamic boarding school, and International school. I believe Public school are only for Indonesian citizen because it's Government funded by people's tax and the smartest one are competing to get in here. But if your kids are able to speak in Bahasa Indonesia, they could go to private school or Islamic boarding school. But if they don't speak Bahasa Indonesia, then it will suit him/her more in International school. If they only speaking in Urdu, try to find an International school for Pakistani/Indian in Indonesia. I'm not really good in English, sorry if I was saying something bad, I'm not meaning it. May Allah bless you brother.
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There’s nothing wrong with pursuing religious education. Pesantren existed even before formal schooling existed in Indonesia. Anyone who hates on it don’t give enough credit on their roles and meaningful influence. Several rouge schools does not mean that the model does not work. If thats really the case, our traditional schooling system should also come into question a long time ago.
Good for child molester n women beater
Agreed
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Lol there is something wrong with religious school lol 🤣😆 what a backward
the government of Singapore is watching very closely what is happening in Indonesia.
Of course small nation is always afraid with its bigger neighbor, what happen in Ukraine will heighten such worry
Because there's barely any news from Singapore itself 😂
Jelas Singapura ada maunya
@@muhammadsecret8783 small nation? which one? the one that has GDP per capita of EUR 3.710 or the one that has GDP per capita EUR 57.337? or the one that has 50 F15 Strike Eagle, 60 F16 Falcon, 15 AH 64 Apache, with around 2.000 air to air missiles such as AMRAAM, Sidewinder, etc VS the one the has 16 Su27/30 and 33 of used F16 fighting falcon, and with only less than 200 air to air missiles? LoL.
@@deddy9675 Strength of nation is based on overall GDP figure, not GDP percapita. Go see which one that can withstand USA or China attack, Indonesia or Singapore ? Figure it out. What happen in Vietnam, Afghanistan, and in recent time in Ukraine is the prove. Those war machines own by Singapore will be easily destroyed by power like USA and China. Correction,use 2021 data dude, Indonesia 2021 GDP percapita has already been around 4.500 USD
The government should spend money to the national interest, not to a particular religious belief.
Many of alumni from this school become high profile politician even Indonesia's current vice president is a Product of 'pesantren' and this off course Will influence their policy including budgeting
It IS for the national intest; it's a nation with 87% Muslim population. This is Pancasila-based Indonesia, not secular France.
Religious belief is a part of citizen's rights, the state should serve its citizens, so it is a national interest
Absolutely 👍
@@ahmadmuzakki4333 Yes, it is your right. The government should just ensure that you can exercise your right by building your own religious school.
3:05 What is with the Kalashnikovs in the logo and the Arabic “La azza ila bil jihad” (“there is no greater honor than jihad)? One would have to be blind to not immediately see something suspicious about this. Was that shot taken before or after vetting that school? It seems the school inspectors wouldn’t know if a truck hit them in the face.
That's a huge red flag.
Get good education is jihad, obey ur parents also jihad. Jihad isn't only about war
@@volksraad6253 yeah. No.
@@volksraad6253 Yeah why don't you tell that to millions of warmongering abdools dreaming of subduing and conquering non-believers and their countries.
Islamic meaning of 'Jihad" and your meaning of 'Jihad' are TOTALLY different, my dude. Stop believe blindly upon mass medias.
I was expecting constructive discussion and honest curiosity in the comments section. But I guess I was too naive 😥
Crazy world..
nope thats what happens
Funding Islamic schools through national and local government budgets is a type of discrimination toward the national interest of Indonesia.
Discrimination???
Did u know? It's not just for islamic Schools,, we have other religious schools and universities like Christian and hindu, and the government funds them too..
And religion is one of our people's interest...
@@hendrayana3798 really? which Christian and Hindu universities that are publicly funded by the government of Indonesia? :D
@@deddy9675 IAKN (Institut Agama Kristen Negeri), UHN (Universitas Hindu Negeri), they are state universities and of course funded by the government.
But private religious education institutions can also get funding from the Ministry of religion affairs..
Dari komen2 anda di video ini, saya yakin kalau anda ini orang Indonesia.
@@hendrayana3798 it's discrimination, those religions are not form Indonesia :D why should the government of Indonesia provide funding for foreign religions?
There are 29 Islamic State University, 24 Islamic State Institute, more than 577 MAN, more than 1.686 MIN :D
And how many Non Islamic Universities that are funded by the Government ? :D
Why would the government provide funding to those religious schools? :D Islamization by politics? Islamization by government funding?
@@hendrayana3798 So, after the figure that I showed you; do you still think that there is no discrimination in Indonesia? :D
Why would the government provide funding to those religious schools while it should preserve the culture of Nusantara? Islam and Christianity are not from Indonesia. There are so many local religions but why the government doesn't provide funding to those local religions in order to preserve the tradition and culture of Indonesia?
In 150 years from now they'll be facing similar Situation. ..It's a country without future...Indonesia became banana republic
Keep your word, and see who's gonna destroyed first
@@wakuwaku6647their country already gone you know it
@@hetenabben2004true man 😂 the west doesn't have unity in diversity like us, they have unity in racism
Mau tau kenapa Indonesia stuck menjadi negara berkembang dan kesulitan dan hampir mustahil jadi negara maju?
Karena dari kecil kita diajarin bersyukur dan puas dengan yang kita punya.
Sisi positifnya kita taulah hasil bersyukur tp sisi negatifnya, kita gak kepikiran untuk berusaha mengubah kondisi kita menjadi lebih baik. Mungkin katanya berusaha tapi apa kita berusaha sampai kek titik darah penghabisan? Nope. Kita kan harus bersyukur dengan yang kita punya, gausah rakus. ...umm, right?
Syukur itu wajib, tapi koruptor yg harus dibasmi dari indonesa, kalo semua rakyat tdk mau bersyukur dan jauh dari agama maka otomatis banyak kejahatan perampokan, pembunuhan, dan koruptor, karna ajaran islam 2 inti sikap yaitu sabar dan sukur
Justru kita ga maju karena ga bersyukur
Lihat betapa rakus nya masyarakat indonesia, contohnya yg di video ini mereka ga bersyukur bisa dengan bebas beragama dan menjalani ritual keagamaan, akhirnya jadi teroris dan radikal
@@wakuwaku6647 sdh makan t4i hari ini blm ten?? Yesaya 36:12🤣🤣
Emang negara yg maju seperti apa?
@@abdul9662 contoh yg gampang deh. Mawar, pengusaha ekonomi menengah-bawah yg suka ikutan jualan barang yg lagi ngetren. Mawar cuma jual barang yg bisa dibeli murah dan dijual mahal, alias suka cari untung gede. Gak peduli kualitas barang, brandingnya, apalagi kepercayaan dan kepuasan pelanggan, yg penting bulan itu penghasilannya banyak bulan depan liat tren baru dulu. Mawar gak mikirin jangka panjang bisnisnya gimana yg jelas bulan pertama mulai bisnis udah kembali modal, jelas ogah klo sampe rugi barang buat promosi dan diskon krn minjam di bank gak boleh telat bayar.
it looks like a lot of commenters didn't watch this video to the end.
at first I felt.. eh??? but getting here, the more my view opens.. Initially, I thought that islamic boarding school only studied religion. apparently they are also equipped with general subjects, patriotism for the country, extracurricular activities, foreign languages, and even business knowledge to create new jobs. complete package.. nice.
They are memorize al quran...just a small matter to learn coding languages and expert in programming
Wym
what a useless activity to waste your life
@@richarddawkins4607 you all just outsider, stay away from my country ...
Singapur panic😂
Media Singapork kek cacing kepanasan terus mencari kesalahan
😂😂😂 Where ever this religion is there which becomes a threat to that area... Salute to china in this issue
This is Singapore news not China.
does a cheetah really change its spots though? 🤔
media pengadu domba,, 🤣🤣
no child policy for those below median income and one child policy for those below median income.
or no child policy for all? world is already over populated enough
I don't know why you put your comment in this without context, but most pesanterens are expensive private schools.
terrible to see this funding of terrorism and extremism in education! indonesia is a multicultural contry not a muslim one despite being majority! this sucks
INDONESIA IS A MUSLIM COUNTRY DUDE, EVEN CNA STATED IT SOME DAYS AGO HAHAHAHAHA.
@@muhammadsecret8783 calm down, it's the American. Maybe they should take care of their educational system first before comment on other nation's system 💀
@@muhammadsecret8783 Correction, its a Muslim majority country.
@@pw2020 It is Muslim country, see CNA video some days ago about Indian BJP party spokeperson who talks nasty about prophet Muhammad. That has already been accepted by international community, that Muslim nation term, look like you are rarely reading serious media like Reuters, CNN, and others
@@muhammadsecret8783 Well, I read your comment then I looked at this video from CNA titled "India under fire as Muslim nations lash out over Prophet Mohammed remarks" and indeed the reporter called Indonesia the largest Muslim country, I can understand why you considered the term appropriate for Indonesia.
But I would still disagree with that term (Muslim country) being use for Indonesia because my definition of Muslim country included the implementation of sharia law country wide (by government) which only being implement in part of Indonesia (Aceh). Which made me concluded that our disagreement with the use of Muslim country term is because we have different definition of what is a Muslim country.
If I may ask, what is your definition of Muslim country? what would you consider to make a country a Muslim country?
All religions teach everyone to do good deeds.🙏👁️💟ขอบคุณ
That's so sweet. One wonders where all those killing in the name of religion comes from .
NOT ISLAM 😹😹😹😹
religion of piss, violence and oppression 💩💩☠️☠️💣💣🐷🐷
@@JM-fc6zs War comes from Ego, Idealogy & Religion.
@@JM-fc6zs Come from "insert_name_here'-funded mass medias. Btw you already been brainwashed. TQ.
@@anzrhrn1614 i guess you're a neuroscientist or MRI tech. Keep it up. The world needs your expertise.
12 seconds into the vid: what the hell...
religion should stay away from education and politics.
Agree. It should be a family affair.
That's western culture. This is Indonesia.
@@Anthony-eb6fk are they publicly funded schools? :D
Yeah in the west only
@@pisaukaratan Religion was never part of politic in archipelagos, also islam is not the right religion to be put on politics, since our civilization was buddhism, our culture are also from buddhism, it should be buddhism, animism and hinduism have the elligible to run on the goverment level, as it was before.
What I'm confused about is why there are lessons about soldiers and how to use weapons I don't understand
there are something like soldiers activity too in indonesian university, you dont know right?
@@abcdefghijklmno440the equivalent is probably the rotc in the us
One day in the future, our educated and smart descendants will laugh at our silliness in following and believing in ALL religions.
Nietzsche already did that back in the 19th century, and yet religions prevail and flourish today. Partly because of how bloody the first organized Atheism was, ie. Communism. Lessons learned: religion is bloody, Atheism is no better.
I'm so sorry i won't be there to witness this great day !
Haha smart?? People are getting dumber as time goes not the opposite hahaha
theism is the past, sains and atheism are the future
if afterlife no exist, the believer not loss anythings. but if there is afterlife really exist. can you still laugh? 🥵🤣
Subhaaanalllooohu
Poor people go to kind of this school, rich family send their children to the private, no choice. Politic should away from religion. ISIS is crusader, same. But Christian get improved,this time program not a good insight
Totally wrong, even some rich parents send their children to this "kind of school" .
So how Catholic "Okay" with their Catholic school and then Islam don't ?
Did you ever know the islamic school in Indonesia actually often way more expensive than state owned one ?
And did you know half of the curriculum are general subjects like mathematics, economic, intrepeneurship and science ? And some schools used english as their teaching language ?
Islamic school in Indonesia are way more modern than what you can ever imagine!
@@ahmadin5681 no one wants to learn about religion. This is the 21 century. Get over religion morons
@@ahmadin5681
1. because no Catholics, at least in the past 10 years, after graduating form the Catholic school become a suicide bomber; Do you remember the family suicide bombers who attacked churches in Surabaya in 2018?
2. The Catholic schools are not funded by public money :D
The government of Indonesia must stop spending government budget through religious schools. Religious Communities have to build their own schools, and let the public money build more national schools.
@@ahmadin5681 al Baqarah verse 2 .. where is the book? the Kitaabu? can you answer me?
@@ahmadin5681 NOT ISLAM 😹😹😹😹
religion of piss, violence and oppression 💩💩☠️☠️💣💣🐷🐷
The pesantren is really sus
bro School pesantren Is a place to learn religion, where we learn about religion that still can't be smart, school is at least 6 years if wrong until you become a teacher after graduation.
School pesantren Is a good place to learn religious knowledge, such as studying, reading the Qur'an and memorizing the Qur'an.
Converted 🍌
Islam since birth redical
The crusaders and aryan RSS terrorisys
Agree
@@davidivory3234 Saya muslim sejak lahir
No hindu is radical but Islam is teaching love 😇🙏
@@surursajidunisa1308 yes the hidden dirty pig terrorists
Backwards people
You don't even wash your poop abd u call these people backward ? 🤣🤣🤣
This is Indonesia Civilization
😁😁the capitalists and slaves of money.
Listen, it's none of your business we go to a religious school. I will even put my child in a religious school for his good morals and character. to be able to respect humans and other living things. Life is not about money, but peace of mind that is in accordance with the morals that exist in society that are taught in religion.
You donot have choice too. Even you donot want to be a muslim. You can't leave islam. You will get punishment for leaving islam.
Islam prohibits liqour, adultery, idol worship good values. It's rational morals. Christianity not barring these evils
That's why your country is backward lol 🤣😆
@@surursajidunisa1308Your prophet had 9-11 wives and killed people as well as stealing from others. Islam doesn’t have the 10 commandments both in Judaism and Christianity…the heck are you talking about?
May Allah give hidaya to these moderate Muslims. Biggest fitnah of 21st century
I am from India can I come to Indonesia for learning islami education
🤣 cái đất nước mà bạn không thể biết mặt phụ nữ 🤣
not really, depends on what type of school that u're visiting
i guess you never been here
Christine fair of Muslim😂😎
Assalamalaikum Brother. E and my family interested to live in Indonesia.
What about schooling system in Indonesia class / grade 11, 9, 7 and Hifz class.
AHMAR HAFEEZ Pakistan
Wa'alaikumussalam brother, there's a plenty of option in Indonesia. There are Public school, Private school, Islamic boarding school, and International school.
I believe Public school are only for Indonesian citizen because it's Government funded by people's tax and the smartest one are competing to get in here. But if your kids are able to speak in Bahasa Indonesia, they could go to private school or Islamic boarding school. But if they don't speak Bahasa Indonesia, then it will suit him/her more in International school. If they only speaking in Urdu, try to find an International school for Pakistani/Indian in Indonesia.
I'm not really good in English, sorry if I was saying something bad, I'm not meaning it. May Allah bless you brother.
U r not responding me.
AHMAR HAFEEZ Pakistan Lahore Karachi
islam is good sdhut up western
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