83 Weeks #5: The DX Invasion and Challenging Vince
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- On this episode: On April 13, 1998, the WWF finally broke the WCW Monday Nitro win-streak of 83 Weeks. WCW bounced back the next week but the following week was perhaps the most memorable moment in the Monday Night War - the "DX Invasion" of Nitro at the Norfolk Scope. Eric Bischoff and Conrad Thompson discuss the events leading up to that night, what most have forgotten about Nitro that night, the silly detail everyone likes to embellish, and how everyone remembers the events of that day. Kevin Nash, Booker T, and Chris Jericho have all told their story, but what does Eric remember? The result is a hilarious meltdown and shouting match between Eric and Conrad. In hindsight, what would Eric change? What didn't he like about it? What was the key to this entire angle that Eric thinks is really overlooked in the scheme of things? When the WCW offices were "invaded" later, Eric had to respond on air and did so with a challenge to Vince McMahon. Who did Eric consult with before doing so? What did Meltzer think of that move? Conrad breaks down the challenge on Nitro, McMahon's public statement on the website, and Eric reading the letter from the WWF's attorney on Thunder before discussing the silly Slamboree display. They close the story with the lawsuit that WCW filed against the WWF that really gets swept under the rug and then as your main event: Conrad calls "BS" on Eric's Bret Hart 1996 story from two weeks ago. You don't want to miss this!
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Is anyone else as entertained as I am to hear Eric Bischoff and Ric Flair's son in law scream at each other on a podcast? lol
It's Fucking Fantastic
Fucking comedy gold...need more pissed off Eric on the show.
Wooooooooo!
Dude every episode is amazing lol
I was curious how he got access to all these guys for his podcast, but either way love the show but I guess it pays to know to people
If the Turner/Time Warner execs hadn't put limitations on the WCW product in '98 I truly believe WCW would have had a fighting chance at winning the Monday Night War.
"Someone suggested it to me, it wasn't my idea" - The Eric Bischoff story.
"How do I know if its daytime when I am inside of a building."
Eric reached immortal-hood with that comment.
A watch?
Wall clock, maybe
Man that would've been nuts seeing all of DX in the middle of a Nitro ring.
It would have never happened, but I kind of wish WWF and WCW would have collaborated on a storyline like that. Imagine DX invading Nitro, then later the NWO invading Raw. If that happened at that time the fans would have gone crazy.
I want to live in the timeline where Vince DID show up for the fight
39:00 when the great shit starts lmfao
"It's Daylight Eric!!!!!!"
"How do I know it's daytime when I'm inside of a building!" ROFLMAO
Had me laughing my fucking ass off!!!!! Good shit
actually... in virginia during the summertime, it doesn't get dark til a little after 9 pm. it could have very well been daylight and between 8 and 9 pm during the invasion and eric cutting a promo. it was a long time ago, so hard to say lol
MaestroDawg65 oh my CAWD! I laughed so hard!
😂😅😂😂 That shit was soooo funny
We need more of Angry Eric! Another excellent episode.
im a real life heel though
If McMahon accepted EB's challenge, it could have changed everything. Have a match on WCW, a return on WWF, and a blow off at a WWF vs WCW PPV. Wrestling could still be thriving today
Man, I really wish they both could have survived. Too many issues inside WCW though. It would have been amazing to see a WWF/WCW collab. I can just imagine the type of stuff they'd both be doing nowadays compared to the crap we do get.
Would have been great but the guys on top (McMahon and Turner) legit hated each other and probably wouldn't have seen the money in that PPV at a time like that
@@BrandanTheBroker I believe Ted was more annoyed while Vince just hated any competition period.
3:14 - I love Jericho's WCW entrance music. Nitro's midcard was the best!
ITCHYisVegeta eveeeeenflowwww
Bischoff had so much talent in the midcard that could/should have been developed into stars but he stuck with Hogan and the old heads for way too long. SMFH
@@shonwheeler9125 Exactly right
This is my favorite wrestling based Podcast in the world
Same
To all You Conrad haters, say what you will, but he's single handedly made old school Wrestling interesting again....and this is from a fan since 1983....
Psh Old School wrestling was never NOT interesting and on top of that we have Cornette to thank, not Conrad.
BIlly Ray how can anyone hate this guy(CT).?
Joseph Martinez I myself don't know, but probably involves all the ingredients of being a troll...a touch of insecurity....and a touch of being a jealous Mark..I myself am a fan of all his podcasts.
BIlly Ray --- you and me both, sir. The guy is a class act.
Joseph Martinez Agreed.
*We can never let this die. Eric is gonna be 90 years old and someone drive by his retirement home and yell "IT'S F**KIN' DAYTIME,ERIC!"*
What if he dies at age 83?
@@OikPoinFive that’s oddly specific
@@zitofan4life 83 weeks
These guys have some serious heat and it shows in this episode. You can tell Bishop is trying his best to no sell things but he cracked a couple times.
I love these throwback commentaries lol. Always sounds like an interrogation 😂😂😂
Wow!! Never realized just how nasty the monday night wars really were!
Good Ole days
1:02:00 “...doesn’t get me hot.” HAHA. Eric will never give Meltzer one bit of credit.
Give him credit for what? Meltzer is trash. He actually thought that Okada Vs Omega was a 6-star match. Lol
40:35 Made me laugh my ass off :D
John Gustav Kleppa thank you lol
"It's daytime! How are you doing promo!?" I lost my shit, I never laughed so hard, lmao
@@stephenblanding4197 i listen to this shit at the gym, so picture someone in a gym dropping weights laughing really fucking hard because of this shit. God I love this podcast more than something else to wrestle with
@@asylumprowrestling3388 yeah! Fuck yeah bro! Fuck my bitch! Ahhhhh pumping iron bro! Dropping weights bro! Yeaaaahhhh drop my kids off Bro!
look forward to all c.t podcasts thank you podfather
9:05 83 Weeks Over on April 13th 1998
10:28 *Changes In WWF*
• Mr McMahon as a character
• “Expanding the creative envelope.”
14:37 • Mike Tyson!
15:17 April 27th, 1998
16:34 Sold out for weeks in advance
X-PAC held Eric up for money
Eric fired him
24:31 “It’s a Power Play!”
26:13 Monday Night War
• pretty awesome tv, hindsight 20/20
• They raised the profile of Sports Entertainment to a higher level where they can exist today
28:05 They took our formula and did it better, like the Japanese with Cars.
29:33 Zane Brezlov & Gary Jester had responsibility over where we went to perform
*Right Place, Right Time For DX & WWF*
30:35 “It Was A Jeep” Rocket Launcher Tank🚀
33:05 X-PAC deserved more credit for the IMPACT of WWF. “The Unpredictability” “I WOULD HAVE INVITED THEM INTO THE RING.”
37:01 I was in the ring when it happened.
41:52 Booker T
43:12 Billy Gunn
44:17 Chris Jericho
48:21 Meltzer vs People Inside The WCW
49:08 “It was great. I was jealous.”
Nick Lambrose TBS Attorney
You can’t fire any employee at TBS in 1998
51:01 Bruce Prichard
“0.5 a point is not scary at all…it’s a seasonal thing…the fact they were on us the way they were on us had me worried.”
53:11 1997 WCW Joy 🤩
NWO Sitting by the hard camera 📷
57:19 Fight me Mr McMahon! Promo
59:40 Vince McMahon vs Ted Turner [Eric Bischoff]
1:00:39 “Don’t but the PPV”
1:03:43 “Dave Meltzer has a HUGE fixation on Vince McMahon.”
1:06:20 “I fought alot - as a kid growing up.”
1:07:24 “I had been a bouncer in downtown Chicago.”
“Vince would eat his way out of an elevator.”
“I didn’t understand what Vince was made of.”
1:09:57 Hulk and Randy made Eric believe there was a probable chance Vince McMahon would show up
“Don’t stop him if he shows up.”
Getting my Butt kicked FOR MONEY & TV MEMES is worth it
1:14:03 Eric wins by count out
1:17:09 “I was having a BLAST.” 💥
"It's daylight, Eric!!"
Got to be a shirt someday...
how can 72 people dislike this. one of the best podcasts out there. this has been one of the best episodes so far
I agree, this was great. I would bet it has to do with the amount of ads.
9:02 episode starts
@Vince McMahon nice to see you vince.. 😂
Lmao Conrad is the man and Eric is a sport. Love these guys!
Forget Logan Paul and Mayweather
We need Vince vs Bischoff
Cappadonna song at the beginning of podcast. Dope choice
I'm glad Eric gave Xpac his stripes,when I was a kid I thought syxx going back too the wwf as Xpac and joining dx was the coolest shit in the world ,I think the road Dogg and x pac low key saved the DX brand in my eyes ,when it came down too all of them being in the ring as a stable,to me ,the draw was watching road Dogg n x pac
This was a really good episode. Going back and starting from 1 and listening through.
From 38 00 to 42 00 is AWESOME
I have cramps from laughing so hard at that part!!!
Lol at bischoff putting himself over saying he grew up in a rough and tough part of Detroit
April 27 1998, it doesn’t get dark until like 830,845pm, Eastcoast
Exactly! 👍🏻
Thats what i was thinking
was still pre taped though - otherwise how are they talking to fans lining up outside if Nitro is already half way through the live show at this point of the broadcast?
...it's also a very clearly edited segment lol - as it literally cuts to them going from standing outside the arena to driving in the jeep.
This show is what Something to Wrestle use to be. I'm looking forward to these shows now.
The best part of the invasion was road dog yelling let my brother go. Love that shit
IT'S AN EASTERN TIME ZONE! Great bit
"Which part don't you understand Eric?" LMAO
Liking the format on 83 weeks. Im a newbie but its becoming a standard listen for me.
Where can i get an 'It was a Jeep' shirt?
LOL 41:00 The tears wont stop poring down my face!
40:43 🤣
Same 😂😂
It’s not that funny
@@MajorPaign Yes it was
These episodes are so fucking gold. Kudos to both Eric and Conrad.
He did say on the Steve Austin podcast that he did offer Bret a contract in 1996
Vince vs Eric, we should have got that at least once while he was in WWE. But, oh well.
They had a fight on Feb 23 2004, type "vince vs Eric 2004" on RUclips. Stone Cold was a guest referee
Another great podcast episode as always.
Competition is great between.... everything and everyone. It drives one to improve. Sports, business, you name it. So yes, WCW turning the screws on Vince without a doubt made WWE a better product. It's why they're the shits now. No competition.
you get a like for being a wrestling fan who uses the correct they're.
Nunu Bomba thx... I think.
That is why I wish WCW was still around, even when they hit rock bottom in 2001. I was hoping they would bounce back, but we all know what happened after that.
Thays why im waiting for aew
Conrad is awesome when he starts screaming!
+100 for Conrad's " That's what she said line" Well done Sir.. heh
The old Chavo theme song at the end took me back lmao
Conrad Tompson - “IT’S FUCKING DAYTIME ERIC!”
Eric Bischoff - “IT’S WAS 20 FUCKING YEARS AGO!”
😂😂😂
40:09 the most entertaining shit I’ve heard great job guys. I agree with Eric , Dave meltzer is a joke. Im almost certain that Meltzer got damn near all of his WCW information from Vince Russo cause not a bit of it makes any sense.
Agreed. Dave is a pathetic mark as is Conrad.
41:08.....the best radio ever!!
My favorite episode lol just for Conrad and Eric getting pissed
thats not a tank. its a jeep with a 2" metal tube on it
Cornette can remember what color shoe laces he wore, March 12th 1986 and then tell you the gate.....I know Bischoff is a chronic alcoholic, but his inability to recollect is unbelievable.
WeCoolWeCool BOUNCE this is so funny cause it’s actually true
Lmao Conrad starts yelling and screaming he sounds like an adult south park character.😂
"Vince Is Huge" Dave Meltzer
Everytime Conrad says Dave Meltzer, please take a shot of whiskey!
This is such a great show, Conrad. You gotta get Russo. Only guy who was on both sides. And you're the only guy who can cut his bullshit.
Love the long detailed format for this specific angle. Especially for it being a brighter moment for wwe. Hope
37:55 is where the daytime conversation begins to percolate 😂
That laugh at 1:05:45 suggests Eric wins the fight between him and McMahon. That's a laugh from someone who knows the outcome.
This podcast has Eric OVER w me 😂 love this dude
I loved the DX invasion! I was so hoping you guys would've let them in! But I guess in hindsight I guess there wasn't much they could've done if they did get in lol, great episode guys!
SSJR Black it woulda been funny to see them get in and be like ahhhh now what
I heard Eric at one point thought about sending Haku out there lol man that would of been interesting haha
“they took our formula and ran with it” -The guy from WCW who swore he didn’t want to be mcmahon
I've been listening to a few of these off and on and they're quite entertaining but the consistency is all over the place.
I absolutely love this episode you guys produced
Great episode, too bad we’ll never see Bischoff eat that contract
Eric should have tried to get Holyfield when they got Tyson.
lol...
but holyfield didnt have quite the same popularity with that particular demographic and the mainstream audience. He had rodman though who had the same popularity with the young audience
Lol, The only problem is that Holyfield doesn't have nearly the personality of Mike. Holyfield is a pretty respectable guy from all the interviews I've seen. But yeah, maybe they could have tried to do smth like that.
Tyson had a mystic that few people have ever had.
@@williamflowers9435 you mean mythic
@@MajorPaign I took him to mean mystique
Most guys with 0 martial arts experience think being buff wins a fight. Lifting heavy amounts of weight does not mean you know how to hit hard
Speed and accuracy is the key.
To all the people thinking Eric is saying he doesn't remember because he's lying, Id love to see a link of an interview with Vince remembering every single part of the Monday Night Wars......that would be nice.
It Would Be Nice & Karma.
I wish that the WWE and Vince McMahon would stop pretending that the reason why McMahon did not show up to fight Eric is because Stephanie graduated college. Admit that he didn't show up because he didn't want WCW to get the intention and the replay buys.
Someone Said He Did Admit It.
Also Cowardly.
Conrad is the greatest Wrestling podcast host ever! Not even close with anyone else!
Imma hillbilly myself but when eric said what kind of hillbilly shit is that I lost it him & bruce crack me up
Conrad just cant fathom that eric would lie on a prodigy chat in 1997 to butter up bret hart and dave metlzer when he was considering doing business with them.
I actually agree with Meltzer. When I saw DX outside of Nitro I thought they looked kind of desperate. Minor league WWF trying to get attention from the top dog WCW. That was my perception at the time as a viewer. Eric is right that letting Syxx go was bad as it put a very important nWo member in the WWF mix giving WWF new energy and credibility.
As a viewer and fan I thought it was cool as shit seeing DX outside of Nitro it didn't look desperate at all. As a 12 year old the WWD jusy seemed cooler back then.
I was just a few years out of the army when this happened. I said the same thing then that I'm saying now: WWE could have done this SO much better. It looked cheap and for lack of a better term, Russo-ish.
Noel ComiX agreed, hhh might now have booked himself and married himself into the top of the bill but he’s only ever been a middle tier player, the invasion was laughable and definitely hhh trying to impress vince
Clearly you do not understand the core dynamic of D-Generation X. DX trolled EVERYBODY. Why in the world would you let something like that pass by without taking advantage of it? The only "desperation" I see here is trying to see more in this than it just being a simple troll-job.
+Noel ComiX
Which is why Meltzer is a tool. How did it make them look desperate? "Minor league" What are you saying? The WWF was already winning when they did that. WCW wasn't on top anymore. You want desperate, Bischoff giving away the WWF's finishes for ratings and challenging Vince McMahon looked desperate. DX never took themselves seriously or as seriously as Bischoff took himself in WCW. WCW acknowledged WWF more times on their show during this time than the WWF did. The last time WWF acknowledged WCW openly on T.V. as much was during the Hukster vs. The Nachoman skits. That was desperate. This was a slap in the face to WCW as their fans turned on them on live T.V. when DX showed up. Don't use Meltzer's narrative as if it was your's. No one thought this made WWF look desperate.
Im dying. More angry Conrad and Eric.
When Conrad spazzes I lose it lol 🤣
Bischoff should get into how much bigger Time Warner was and is then WWE in terms of company size. I don't think that is something that a lot of people understand.
Sean Waltman gave it more credibility
This was a great episode. It felt like around Wrestlemania 14, you could tell Vince was desperate to kick Eric's ass. Especially getting Mike Tyson involved and putting him with DX. While I thought DX invading WCW was great. That kicked off some pissing content back and forth between both companies' lawyers. Im pretty sure if Vince didnt have those people in his ear telling him not to go to Slamboree, he would have went. All the kiss ass were probably scared that Vince was going to lose to Eric. Also how convinent Stephanie's graduation was the same weekend. Easy out. Vince couldnt admit he was scared of Eric.
Yes, Vince McMahon Was Scared. There's Something Else, Slamboree Was On A Sunday & Graduations Were/Are On Saturdays/Fridays. Vince McMahon & The WWE Aren't Fooling Anybody.
40:50 is gold lol
IT WAS DAYTIME
41:00 gold
If they let the WWE guys into the building Bischoff gets to record them and use them in WCW promos.
I remember thinking back then that WrestleMania 14 was going to be a joke. It was anything but. I was still so high on WCW at that point, I thought WWF wouldn't be beating them anytime soon.
The chemistry between Conrad and Eric is just phenomenal! Loving this podcast!
That was the best “ you mean while I’ll was still paying him LoL “
A jeep with a recoilless rifle
Love how EB talks about his character when it was actually who he was at the time, his arrogance then was ultimately his downfall
People constantly confuse “burying” someone with just being brutally honest. Overly sensitive people.
Conrad... You rarely agree with Dave, but you got to love his analysis here?
Eric... Doesn't get me hot
hahaha so funny
Sean Waltman is definitely under appreciated for his contributions to the attitude era
Angry Eric cuts some of the best shit lol
Love it please keep up the hard work
40:30 is what this podcast is all about. And I fucking love it!
I love listening to Bischoff beat around the bush of some of his ... lies. That's a harsh word but you get it.
I never tire of Eric not answering the fucking question. And taking the damn long way around to get to somewhere else. Hell most the time I’ve forgotten what the question was in the first place.
Lmao ITS FUKN DAYTIME IN THE PROMO 😂😂😂😂
"It's Fucking Day Time Eric!!!" Lmao
Conrad it’s light out at 8pm during that time of year so he may be telling the truth.
That would have been awesome if Vince showed up at Slamboree.