Are you a FIDDLE or VIOLIN player? [The 3 Differences!]
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- Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024
- 👉 What is the difference between a fiddle and a violin?
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A friend told me a joke about fiddles and violins once. It's probably from an internet meme or something. "What is the difference between a violin and a fiddle?" You have to think a bit outside of the box here to get the punch line: "A violin has never had beer spilled on it." The origin of this being that traditional fiddlers hung out in bars/pubs everywhere. Often drinking and playing their fiddle/violin while entertaining other drunk patrons. It's an inevitable thing, at some point some patron of that bar is going to get too excited and drunk that they will spill beer or whatever alcohol on the fiddle/violin. Beer is just traditionally the drink of choice for many working-class people worldwide so I guess that's how that joke was made. It's funny because I've seen it happen. Never mix alcohol and expensive instruments! Many antique violins that have water/liquid damage are probably ones that have been used with alcohol involved. I have played my violin alone in my room a bit drunk, but I never leave the alcohol bottles anywhere near the violin lol.
I understand that when they made that " Fiddler On The Roof" movie they got a cheap violin out of a Pawn Shop so it would have that cheap fiddle sound.
That's a very fun fact. @Rand Lyons😊
Oh gosh.🙈😁
I'm an aspiring fiddle player. But find your youtube channel very informative. It has opened my eye's to the different types of beautiful music that this instrument will play. And have even picked up quite a few tips from your channel. Thank for all you do for us Fiddler/Violinist's.
Welcome aboard! It is nice to have you.😊
I think you nailed it best when you said folk people don’t think classical players can improvise, they have to have sheet music and classical people say folk players can’t read the sheet music they can only improvise. I have been around both players for a long time. Both think their style is better than the others. If they would all open up to other styles and techniques both sides would up their game. Great video.
This was an excellent and very skilled explanation loved the demo of rhythmic bowing !!
Thanks!😃
Julia, I'd like to see you work out the piece for "The Last Of The Mohicans". It's actually a Scottish style fiddling piece and the melodic part is Celtic. You could break it down into several tutorials.
Thanks for the suggestion!😀
One thing I have noticed over the years is the difference between a violinist and a fiddler is in violin music the entire piece of music is played on each string one part at a time while as fiddlers will use chords using 2 or more strings in their music. Now the violinist also prefer to use the high bridge which allows for playing one string at a time more accurately while the fiddle has the lmedium or low bridge which allows for playing two or more strings at a time resulting in two distinct styles of music.
Great video and great explanation. I cannot call myself a musician although i've been around music and musical instruments all my life I was really curious to find the difference between all types of instruments just because. Your video was really helpful and thank you for doing it.
Just starting….51 year old American that loves Country/Bluegrass….I am learning violin to become a fiddle player. But I do have some classical favorites that I want to learn.
Wonderful! Thanks for letting us be a part of your musical journey. I wish you the best. 😊
Hey David, I've been a guitar player for many years (punk band back in the 70's to these days, gospel rock and country/western). I'm now 66 years old and my tastes have broadened. I've just retired and will pick up my first violin in a week, now I have the time to learn...country/bluegrass is the goal. Perhaps the Tamworth Country Music Festival here in Australia... ?
Here in Texas I’ve heard a violin has strings and a fiddle has strangs.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Yes, exactly!
I'm glad that you're as skilled as you are. Thank you.
Thanks!🥰
The jig played at 2:36 is actually titled Irish Washerwoman
Great video, I love when you add fragments of tunes on your videos. It lets me take a glance at what's out there to learn
Glad you like them!😊
I must say that since joining JVA a short while ago, I have been most attracted to fiddle music - perhaps it’s to do with my Irish roots! That said, I doubt that I could make inroads into fiddle playing without a solid grounding in violin playing. So, I’m doing my best to complete a good rendition of May Song (which is turning into April, May and perhaps June Song at my level of proficiency) and I’m also trying to learn The Kesh!! I’m having a lot of fun, not taking myself TOO seriously!
Julia, that was the most comprehensive explanation of the differences between fiddle and violin that I have have heard to date. Thank you and the JVA team so much for all your effort and hard work!!
I am glad you like the video and I look forward to hearing you play The Kesh!
Loved that you have explained all of this, and the video was perfect length to cover the differences between classical and folk styles! As a former tap dancer, it makes perfect sense why I gravitate towards fiddle and stay more focused on the beat. I never realized that until I watched this video! I enjoy all your videos and have learned so much from you. It’s been very hard for me to find this information with explanations that are easy to understand. Thank you! 🤗, Michelle
Thank you for your support in watching my videos. I am so happy you find them helpful.😊
What a great video, Julia! Very interesting and inspiring! I mostly play classical music but I like folk music as well. 🤗💝
Glad you enjoyed it!😀
I really appreciate your video. I prefer the fiddle style, but also enjoy classical.
Thanks. I like them both!
I'm only playing 7 months but I play both! Jean luc ponty
Maxim v on one side med from Thais .and love Michael Cleveland
Blue grass! Elk river blues
Wonderful!
👍😊 As a total beginner - have not much "to say" - except to totally agree with you - both types are fun and inspiring ..
Would love to see more "folk" oriented tutorials and lessons for start - but not disregarding classic fundamentals .. (yeah - harder, but important)
Well said!😊
I have finally ordered the violin
Nice! I wish you the best with it.😊
Thanks, Julia. What a really informative video . I am learning to play the fiddle and agree with your comments about the sociable nature of the scene. My wife and I particularly like Bal Folk, which is increasingly popular here in England. By the way, what type of shoulder rest are you using. Thanks again. Your videos are really helpful and interesting, Kevin
Glad it was helpful! In this video I ma using a Wolf forte secondo shoulder rest.
I agree. For me, it’s all in the genre of music. As the old adage goes, “The violin is to fancy as the fiddle is to folksy.” And when the violin is played as a fiddle, as you pointed out, it can be played with more flexibility and exclusively in the first position with very little or no vibrato. 😊 BTW: Of the fourteen known positions of the violin, I play the violin only in the first position with a "finger vibrato." Therefore, I consider myself a fiddle player and not a violin player. Besides, when I play "fiddle tunes" on my "fiddle," it complements both my concertina and diatonic harmonicas. 👌 😉 🎻♫ In light of your analysis, is it fair to say that all violin players are fiddle players, but not all fiddle players are violin players? 😐
What great way to explain it. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.😀
@@Violinspiration :):)
Yes, I think that's a true statement.
Thank you for your service to humanity. (4❤️)
Thank you too!
Thank you Julia !!! 🤗❤️💐
You're very welcome!
very informative Julia. Thank you . You are an excellent musician.
Thank you.😊
Thank you for this, you’ve given me some inspiration. I’ve regretted not learning to play the fiddle for many years and now I’m taking part in a lot of open mic/jam sessions with my acoustic guitar I’m seeing a lot of folk fiddle players joining in and it adds so much to songs. I’d love to be able to accompany with a fiddle myself but I’m worried it will be too much for me to learn. Would a teacher be able to teach me to do this without having to learn scales/theory etc?
I can be possible I guess if you simply learn violin fingerings, but you would have to play scales to play well, they help you with intonation and hearing if you are playing in tune. In theory..
When you have the why the how is already manifesting.
Blah blah bs bs. If you are truly touched by inspiration then your more than half way there.
I've been wanting to learn to play this machine for decades finally I have inspired my daughter(9yo) to learn perhaps she will teach me. I really want to learn the song played in the movie "interview with a vampire". Really spicy gypsy folk song. ❤️❤️❤️❤️.
Just bought her a nice Kennedy violin cuz the one provided by school was lifted from wife's car. So I'm now invested and exponentially more motivated.
I'm gonna be the next Mowts-tard.
GOOD DAY.
You are great...I flow you...🌹🙏💚Thanks for your teaching.
Thanks.😊
You are definitely playing a Violin! It sounds very nice and pure where a lot of fiddlers have gritty sounding instruments and they tend to be the lower end of the $$ spectrum. Your instrument sounds very good to me! I bought my fiddle from a place in Chapel Hill North Carolina, and it was a little over 1000$ about 10 years ago. So the old jokes are "it's a fiddle when I play it, and a violin when I go to sell it!" and other jokes about the price of the instrument yet Kenny Baker played a original Guarneri Violin he got from Roy Acuff or so I have been told by others...
I think another difference is reading music, most fiddlers play and learn by "rote" and they don't really use written music during a performance. Of course the Concert Violinist usually memorizes their parts as well. I tend to use music sometimes to learn a song, and hardly ever while performing. I can read music though, I was in the Orchestra and the Stage Band in the USA. (I was a String Bass and Electric Bass player though before I learned Bluegrass Fiddle in my adult years) You have a very good tone, and intonation so Fiddle stuff would probably seem easy at first until you got to the professional level, then it get's a bit trickier. Mark O'Connor would offer a great challenge for most Violinists to master his style, skills and abilities. It's difficult to switch between the 2 styles for most players. So that's why they call us Fiddle Players, and Orchestral players Violinists... though most people don't know the differences! Then Bluegrass Fiddle and Irish Fiddle, etc... so many different styles to choose from! Enjoyed the video...
I am so glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. 🤩
@@Violinspiration Thank you, I am sort in between as I was formally trained on the String Bass and read music, yet also "by rote" which is simply copying what you hear on a record or tape, video, etc...
I also play the banjo which definitely puts me into the fiddler category! Lol... Have a good day, thanks for getting back to me. Everyone needs to follow their own path and create their own style but when you are getting paid to play in the Symphony you better "play by the rules" and not be fiddling around! Lol... All the best. John
The late Itzak Perelman used to affectionately refer to his violinist contemporaries as fiddlers. When he did that it was just plain cute 🤣 considering who they were. A charming example for your followers of fiddling would be the Celtic fiddling as performed by Mairead Nesbitt, videos on RUclips.
Wait, did you say the Late Itzhak Perlman? I am happy to be the one to tell you that Itzhak is alive and well. I have friend who just say him play a concert in NJ, USA a few weeks past. Unless something has happened since then that I have not heard about. That is funny though that he would refer to his peers as such. 😊
I got so scared reading this comment ! I was like "LATE"!? :-D I'm glad it's just a mistake. Anyway, thank you for this informative video :-).
You know folks, I'm not sure where I picked up the idea that Itzak was gone. Probably from the way his wife said something that I misunderstood but I suspect Itzak is going to be shocked when he hears the news.
I am a beginner who wants to learn to play both. I love to listen to both classical and folk. Folk music definitely makes you want to move your feet. I want to learn the technics of classical. I am not good at learning by ear. I need the notes to play. I love the way I can pick up a hymn book and play the songs. I am trying to learn vibrato to make the hymn playing sound nicer.
Great, Michelle.
VERY WELL DONE!!!!!! a great video!
Thanks!😀
Mam could you please upload western notes for the song there's a fountain filled with blood as violin tutorial
Yeah, thanks for making this video
You're very welcome.
I like both styles, but I love classical!
😀
Thank you for the video. I would really like to play folk music. I would appreciate if you could make tutorials.
Good idea!😀
I enjoyed this very much
Thank you. I am so happy to hear that.😀
Learning both styles of music. I joke with people, I love classical violin but also like to play something you can dance to! 😉
This is very true !
wow, that's so great thank you for the information ,
You're very welcome, Stephen!
Great video. Thank you.
You are welcome!
i came here b/c a friend described a dream where a boy demo'd to his parents how his bow could do certain things humans can't do in reality. This video helped me understand a little bit about this. Since neither of us play. In the dream a folk song was played on a "violin". I guess the bow is still called a bow whether they are a fiddler or a violinist?
😀 yes it is still a bow either way!
@@Violinspiration thanks for responding! I know zero about instruments. I need a diagram! for dummies. My only personal observation as a listener is that the violin seems to speak like the voice of a man conveying deep emotion. And the guitar also can sound like a person talking. I kinda binge-watched your website and channel trying to understand the instrument for the purpose of interpreting my friends' dream. What is it called when your student has to learn different angles of the bow? Like tilting or the length needed to strike across? at different degrees? Does that have a term? Are there any other musical inst. out there that require string-on-strings? or just the violin? Isn't that what a bow is?-- finer soft natural strings onto coarse metal strings???
Could you write a blog sometime on how the human voicebox differs or is similar to stringed instruments & the range of sounds they each are capable of producing?
Both would sound sick with some distortion.
What do you mean both would sound sick with some distortion? Can you elaborate?🤔
Actually a violin is a type of fiddle. The world fiddle predates the violin and includes any instrument with strings that is played with a bow.
juliiaaaaaa you should make a vibrato lesson c:
I have one. Here is the link :violinspiration.com/live-vibrato-workshop-how-to-play-vibrato-on-the-violin/ I hope you enjoy it. Good luck!😊
@@Violinspiration tyyyy!!! ^^
Hi Julia!
I'm from India. So, winter has already come in my country and the tuning of my violin is not staying correct.
I cannot afford a humidifier but I really need a solution.
What can I do now?
Do you keep it in a case when you are not using it? That will help a lot!
@@Violinspiration Yes always.
@@Violinspiration Every time I play the violin I clean it and keep it in a case.
Fiddle and Violin is sometimes a economic difference ( generally Fiddle is self taught/ poor , Violin is taught / wealthy )
I know many people who teach Fiddle. And I know many people who teach themselves to play the violin. That is why I created my site, so beginners could learn to play the violin by themselves.
That's kind of why i consider them two different instruments.
I kind of want to get a 5 string viola and learn it as a fiddle.
I like to play 50/50 so i will choose a classical song to learn and then find a folk song
Wow ! Nice
Thanks!😀
The only difference between a fiddle and a violin is that a violin will never have beer spilled on it.
😂 Or will it??🙄
@@Violinspiration as soon as beer touches a violin it becomes a fiddle
Julia if you ever play any folk music if you come to the USA you'll Knock Em Dead it sounds really great
I play Greek music
Thanks!😀
Do you play it on a violin? Or on an instrument native to your country?🤔
I play Greek music on violin
I play Greek music
How fun!😀
0:36 oi, somethin I've noticed in the united states is they aren't really happy about a lot of things.
🤔
The 4th difference between violin and fiddle is... 5000$
😎
All I know is if I'm ever considered ANYTHING and it upset somebody else I'll be ready for the fight thank you.
But I don't foresee anybody ever knowing that I'm even playing this.
😉🎻
I think if it was a nice person with a decent sense of humor you could call it either and they would be good with it but I kind of get the fact that a fiddle is a country type of thing and a violin is a formal type of thing
That's a good observation, Wendy, but there is a bit more to it. You can learn more in my article. No fighting though.😉
@@Violinspiration okay no fighting 😁
A fiddle has a special bridge and a different quality of strings. 🎻
Correct indeed!😊
Die uitspraak…
Ik nodig je uit om het beter te doen en zelf een presentatie van 25 min over vioolspelen te houden in het Engels ;) Good luck!
@@Violinspiration geen enkel probleem, aangezien ik in een Engelstalig land ben opgegroeid. Misschien wat taallessen nodig?
Try to make the videos shorter :))
🤨 How come?
@@Violinspiration I enjoyed the length of the video and loved how informative it was 😊
@@Violinspiration I think the video length was just great. Great information too.
Wait, I know this joke!
The answer is:
- a violin has four strings, a fiddle has four strangs.
- about $2000
- when you buy it, it's a fiddle, when you sell it, its a violin.
- a tuxedo
🤔 I will have to read this again. What does the tuxedo have to do with it? I a am so confused.😯