What is the difference between a violin and fiddle?

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    ArtistWorks Fiddle instructor, Darol Anger, talks about what makes a fiddle different from a violin. Access fiddle lessons with Darol Anger now: bit.ly/darolfiddle

Комментарии • 315

  • @garrettwilliamson3806
    @garrettwilliamson3806 5 лет назад +2194

    A violin has strings.
    A fiddle has strangs.

    • @JackGilbertJr
      @JackGilbertJr 5 лет назад +23

      Garrett Williamson nailed it

    • @sug149
      @sug149 4 года назад +18

      hahahahahhahahahahahhahaha! oh my gawd

    • @Machodave2020
      @Machodave2020 4 года назад +5

      I'm sorry but, Jazz and country violin is just weird against classical violin.

    • @ayatherapper8166
      @ayatherapper8166 4 года назад +6

      Now i get it!

    • @richresident4377
      @richresident4377 4 года назад +2

      Garrett Williamson nailed it...

  • @ces4399
    @ces4399 5 лет назад +933

    A fiddle is a violin with an attitude.

    • @tasque7251
      @tasque7251 4 года назад +11

      But if you ruin a violin then everyone will have an attitude

    • @markdemell3717
      @markdemell3717 3 года назад +2

      Are not the strings some what a different gauge?

    • @calicobunny
      @calicobunny 3 года назад +1

      And a violin is just a tamed fiddle

    • @christopherpittman8054
      @christopherpittman8054 3 года назад +7

      @@calicobunny and nobody like a tamed fiddle. We like em wild and free here in These United States.

    • @calicobunny
      @calicobunny 3 года назад +1

      @@christopherpittman8054 wait when did we get to the untited states where are we

  • @korkiwi
    @korkiwi 4 года назад +1207

    When a fiddle player gets mad they become a little violint.

  • @cluckeryduckery261
    @cluckeryduckery261 5 лет назад +654

    Time saver here: they're the same thing. The difference is largely stylistic. But the instrument is the same.

    • @dr.thanos5925
      @dr.thanos5925 4 года назад +12

      Thank you

    • @napsugarzentai8362
      @napsugarzentai8362 3 года назад +2

      Thanks :D

    • @hiidkwhyimhere2597
      @hiidkwhyimhere2597 3 года назад +1

      Ohhhhhhhhh

    • @kishascape
      @kishascape 2 года назад +9

      Well the culture too. Band/classical music people are so high maintenance and uppity stiffs. Where as hillbillies and Irish people will just throw down loose and have a good time, hell some of them don’t even know how to read the music notation.

    • @LA-fr4gp
      @LA-fr4gp 2 года назад +5

      They also make strings specific for fiddlings but that’s about it.

  • @rycenpegagan5222
    @rycenpegagan5222 5 лет назад +511

    THEY PLAYED US LIKE DAMN FIDDLE

  • @thunderstrike6993
    @thunderstrike6993 5 лет назад +600

    Alright, here's one. Violins, you mess up a note and it ruins the performance for any and all playing with you. Fiddle, you mess up a note, you capitalize, you keep on playing, hell it might make the gig that much better.
    Violin, you play in a concert hall, Fiddle, you play on a corner.
    Violinists play to a beat and a conductor, but a Fiddler sets his own beat and changes it as he damn well pleases!
    Violin music might well speak to the soul, but Fiddle music's got a soul of its own.

    • @anikethchilukuri1735
      @anikethchilukuri1735 5 лет назад +33

      Thunderstrike gee if one note ruins an entire performance, then I’ve ruined atleast 20 so far

    • @AusyG
      @AusyG 4 года назад +7

      Hell yeah I love it!!!

    • @qwmx
      @qwmx 4 года назад +17

      Well if you were trying sell the Fiddle, it worked.

    • @NoaThePineconeTaker
      @NoaThePineconeTaker 4 года назад +8

      Damn... Now that’s a quote for the ages.

    • @joana8615
      @joana8615 4 года назад +13

      I mean, you can play however you want with both... it's not the instrument that determines the music you play, it's your own preferred style.

  • @rossclay3317
    @rossclay3317 6 лет назад +623

    The difference between a fiddle and violin? The Whiskey!

    • @Unknown-hv4cu
      @Unknown-hv4cu 4 года назад +4

      Ross Clay don't drink whiskey, its bad for you.

    • @Max-The-Axe
      @Max-The-Axe 3 года назад +1

      @@Unknown-hv4cu it’s not whiskey makes you live longer

    • @bagnome
      @bagnome 2 года назад +2

      @@Max-The-Axe Good whiskey never lets you lose your place.

    • @robertshorthill6836
      @robertshorthill6836 2 года назад +5

      Ross Clay. A violin becomes a fiddle when someone spills beer onto and in it. I've seen it happen at jams. The owner said, "Ah, it's just a fiddle, not a G.D. violin!"

  • @angelzugarramurdi6922
    @angelzugarramurdi6922 3 года назад +81

    As an spanish speaker, I really love much more the word fiddle, cause violin is the same as in spanish, it is easy to learn, but fiddle sounds to me much more interesting, sounds very English, it´s difficult to recall. I really love when people say fiddle than violin.

    • @GreatOldOne9866
      @GreatOldOne9866 2 года назад +2

      I get what you mean. But I like both equally.

  • @gerbilsmith
    @gerbilsmith 5 лет назад +102

    I was told by a 2nd generation violin maker, who was trained at the Chicago violin school that there actually are 2 clear differences between a true fiddle & a violin...
    1) the bridge on a fiddle is flatter than the bridge of a violin. This makes playing 3 strings at once easier on a fiddle than a violin.
    Second a fiddle, at least an Southern American fiddle, should have a rattle snake tail glued inside the instrument under the bridge. It is purely customary as it does not effect sound significantly.
    But in general they are so similar the truest difference really is as this man says, style of playing.

    • @RaneBane
      @RaneBane 4 года назад +6

      He says thT

    • @Morongobill
      @Morongobill 3 года назад +13

      The rattle stops the devil from coming in, or so they say

    • @emaarredondo-librarian
      @emaarredondo-librarian 2 года назад +2

      Most curious. An old Chilean tradition is putting a dry red chili pepper inside a guitar for it to sound good. 😃

    • @richardwebb2348
      @richardwebb2348 Год назад

      It is not possible to play 3 strings at the same time on a violin with a regular bridge.

    • @gerbilsmith
      @gerbilsmith Год назад

      @@richardwebb2348 it's possible but not easy as the shape of the bridge detours it. A fiddle bridge has a flatter top than a violin bridge and makes playing on 3 strings at once easy.

  • @danyis3042
    @danyis3042 5 лет назад +46

    befor i knew fiddle i called it folk violin

  • @ahmadnicolas9224
    @ahmadnicolas9224 4 года назад +25

    When provoked, all musicians commit violins

  • @Steppenwolf27
    @Steppenwolf27 3 года назад +18

    As a guitar player, I have always admired violin players. Also, I love playing with a violin player. I lived in a dorm in Mongolia many years ago. There was a Japanese guy who lived on my floor who played violin. Sometimes I'd be hanging out with friends in the common area and he'd walk buy and I'd shout, 'Hey, go get your skripka" (Russian for violin). And he would get it and we would play a few songs together.
    He was the best accompaniment ever. When we played "Knocking on Heaven's Door" he would gently follow the chords during the verses, he would support me while I did a solo, then I would hit the last chord in the progression hard and say, "Take it!" and he would rip into an amazing solo while I strummed backup.

  • @JesterWhoHelps
    @JesterWhoHelps 4 года назад +99

    A violin will never have the risk of beer being spilled on it.

    • @501stsoldier4
      @501stsoldier4 3 года назад +7

      Only wine and maby blood if your music creates a riot looking at you Igor Stravinsky

  • @officialgaylord5578
    @officialgaylord5578 4 года назад +90

    Here’s the difference
    You play the Violin, while you get PLAYED LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE

  • @hrobert745
    @hrobert745 5 лет назад +54

    Thank you for the explanation! I told my teacher my instrument was a fiddle and that my daughter gave me another one which was a violin and he said they’re the same, so I was wondering. To me the sound of the two is totally different but he said it mainly had to do with the bridge, as you mentioned-not only flatter for the fiddle but also taller for the violin. And now I have a reply for someone who criticizes that I don’t use sheet music-because I play fiddle, not violin!

  • @codycollins6468
    @codycollins6468 2 года назад +1

    I had a song in my head but I wasn’t sure if it was played with a fiddle or violin. U opened up the same way that song did jaw dropped

  • @thomaslthomas1506
    @thomaslthomas1506 Год назад +3

    The only technical differences are:
    Some fiddle have flatter radius on the bridge.
    Tuning often is DGBD or DBBbD like banjo’s there of course are more tunings than a certain ex prez had liver pills.
    A friend of mine who builds “fiddles” also make the scale longer between viola & violin.
    All this info from a steel guitar player getting this second hand.🤔

  • @Archades6969
    @Archades6969 4 года назад +5

    You have blown my mind. Thank you so much for explaining this. I love both classical music and what would be considered "fiddle" music. You have just bridged the gap and I appreciate it so much.

  • @patricklasko1360
    @patricklasko1360 4 года назад +18

    Fiddle - Jamming out (grooving).
    Violin - Compassionate playing.

  • @northwestcustoms6663
    @northwestcustoms6663 5 лет назад +32

    Sounds soooooo much better with the "fiddle" sound.

  • @johnhead5699
    @johnhead5699 2 года назад +6

    Year's ago in a conversation about my playing the fiddle without any sheet music a friend and longtime classical violinist said " I'd love to be able to play like you do" . The music you produce is simply an expression from the heart of ones personality. A violinist is like your accountant or your banker, a fiddle player is like your best friend.

  • @yttrv8430
    @yttrv8430 4 года назад +26

    So, it's not about the instrument itself, rather who plays.

  • @fiddlix
    @fiddlix 3 года назад +2

    It looks like Darol brought his Bob Kogut 4-string out for this video. Thank you so much for everything you have brought to string instrument education. And thank for keeping me inspired.

  • @Seastar14TheWitch
    @Seastar14TheWitch 4 года назад +34

    There is actually some instruments that are called a fiddle, without being a violin, the national instrument of Norway is an excample of this, it's called the Hardanger Fiddle.

    • @megancook6415
      @megancook6415 Год назад +2

      The hardanger fiddle is a violin but modified with more strings, different bridge shape, and thinner wood. It still classifies as a violin but with slight changes.

    • @richardwebb2348
      @richardwebb2348 Год назад +1

      In Norwegian a Hardingfele.

    • @WolfieboyMachi
      @WolfieboyMachi Год назад +1

      @@megancook6415 I mean, that's quite a lot of differences, though.
      And that's not to mention the significant aesthetic differences.
      By your reasoning one could argue mandolins are guitars.

  • @Masonjarislit
    @Masonjarislit 4 года назад +1

    Thanks!!

  • @Hotdogwater421
    @Hotdogwater421 Год назад +6

    I love how no matter what kind of instruments you or any one plays. 90% hands. Other 10% comes from the face. every note someone plays is a different facial expression. Shit makes me laugh so hard can’t help it . But damn I wanna play a fiddle

  • @ayunii1004
    @ayunii1004 4 года назад +5

    Blake and Kelly's argument on the voice made me come here.

  • @hippocharis4220
    @hippocharis4220 4 года назад +3

    If you don't want to watch the whole video, the answer is at 1:18

  • @jennifergordon80
    @jennifergordon80 2 года назад +3

    I learned today that it had to do with the bridge 🌉… that the fiddles bridge was smaller on one side because with the fiddle you’re playing two strings at a time.
    But THANK YOU FOR THIS little lesson

  • @1904home
    @1904home 5 лет назад +1

    really enjoyed this.

  • @briankennedy1313
    @briankennedy1313 2 года назад +2

    Piano, fiddle/violin; that sound hits me deep. I have the soul of someone from the 1800s.

  • @sheaf6593
    @sheaf6593 Год назад

    Amazing!

  • @gilgamesh7055
    @gilgamesh7055 4 года назад +43

    THEY PLAYED US LIKE A DAMN VIOLIN

  • @juniperwoodgreen4090
    @juniperwoodgreen4090 5 лет назад +20

    Traditional Irish American Scottish music emanates from a violin. But if you go to a classical performance and you refer to the violin as a fiddle you'll be lambasted and thrown out for courting such fiddle-some folly...

  • @Andy_Holmes
    @Andy_Holmes 6 лет назад +24

    I wanted to learn to play both! Now I don't have to.

  • @davidcurtis4478
    @davidcurtis4478 6 лет назад +31

    Never heard of the 'violinist on the roof' 🤣 groove on whether a violin or fiddle 🎶🥁😎DC

  • @TheKingDrew
    @TheKingDrew 4 года назад +4

    “Forgot me old fiddle and forgot me old fiddle,
    But thank god im a country boy”

  • @oleksandr3959
    @oleksandr3959 5 лет назад +14

    I panicked for a second but you're the calming voice to tell me to relax.

  • @MattManProductions
    @MattManProductions 3 года назад +11

    The best way to understand "fiddling" or "violin" playing.
    Fiddle=left to artists interpretation (aka lindsey stirling)
    Violin= structured (mozart, Paganini)
    I was 3rd chair in school, started off cello, then got tired of lugging it around and moved to violin. I did very structured classical orchestras, and when the devil went down to georgia played on the radio I loved that's style. So I broke off, and went that direction

    • @richardwebb2348
      @richardwebb2348 Год назад

      That is a difference in the choice of music and style of playing on the same instrument.

  • @discipleofliberty9249
    @discipleofliberty9249 2 года назад +2

    The main difference that you can hear between the two styles is that fiddle more often drone and hammer on, whereas violins do not

  • @nvdawahyaify
    @nvdawahyaify 5 лет назад +19

    A violin is carried in a case, a fiddle is carried in a gunnysac

    • @hydrolito
      @hydrolito 3 года назад

      Gunnysack isn't that just another name for a duffle bag?

    • @nvdawahyaify
      @nvdawahyaify 3 года назад

      @@hydrolito a gunnysack is a burlap bag.

  • @Tman896
    @Tman896 Год назад +1

    I feel how the instrument is held is also a part of the difference. I feel like fiddle player hold the instrument lower and pointing down more

  • @fadetoal
    @fadetoal 6 лет назад +7

    In Rock, I often refer to my guitar as an axe, Guit-fiddle, or my girl.

  • @Vikingwerk
    @Vikingwerk Год назад

    You never accidentally spill beer on a violin.

  • @wingking077
    @wingking077 Год назад +6

    My pops always used to say you’re at a party when you hear a fiddle and you’re at a funeral when you hear a violin.

  • @beabea3121
    @beabea3121 3 года назад +3

    In the city, the violin sings..in the country, the violin dances.

  • @petebard
    @petebard 3 года назад

    The diff is the guy who’s holding the bow. Or.. you could say a violin is like a wife and a fiddle is a sweetheart. I fiddle but being 83 yrs old I have the dots in front of me.

  • @hanifbadar2150
    @hanifbadar2150 4 года назад +8

    THEY PLAYED US LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE!!!1!1!1!1!

  • @syahminorizan8064
    @syahminorizan8064 Год назад

    You played us like a damn fiddle!

  • @fatboysgarage7984
    @fatboysgarage7984 3 года назад +2

    My boyfriend and my music teachers in college taught me that a fiddle has a slightly shorter scale length than a violin. I didn't know they're the same because I'm a guitar and bass guy.

  • @kdkarr
    @kdkarr 2 года назад +3

    Just remember, if you're going to play in Texas, you have to have a fiddle in the band.

  • @davidkellymitchell4747
    @davidkellymitchell4747 3 года назад +2

    Correct. Just a style of playing. Really good players can do both plus more styles. This guy is a great player.

  • @Eddie_Schantz
    @Eddie_Schantz 3 года назад +1

    Several years ago I asked a lady in our church orchestra "How long have you been playing the fiddle" OMG. That didn't fly at all.

  • @billmcdonald8011
    @billmcdonald8011 4 года назад +3

    Fiddle is my favorite instrument

    • @yoavmor9002
      @yoavmor9002 4 года назад +1

      Is "Fiddle" a metaphor for the Republic?

  • @marilyngailnichol
    @marilyngailnichol 4 года назад +1

    i Love how you go BACK AND FORTH! from fiddle to the violin.

  • @OlePorkchop
    @OlePorkchop 2 года назад +1

    A violin sings, a fiddle dances

  • @boblienhart
    @boblienhart 9 месяцев назад

    The difference is "attitude" 😊

  • @karsonhutler9923
    @karsonhutler9923 4 года назад +1

    What was the first song he played in the intro

  • @crneube
    @crneube 5 лет назад +55

    Thats fine and all but, does it Djent?

  • @DredCthulhu
    @DredCthulhu 4 года назад +4

    3:05 to 3:20 anyone know the “song”?

  • @fatetastarossa
    @fatetastarossa 3 года назад

    After 20 years I just learn this fact. Thank you!

  • @jamupsnepali7200
    @jamupsnepali7200 5 лет назад

    Only because of genere of music vilon and fiddle differecates ..its really cool..I though there should be differences in sound quality..

  • @nathan7401
    @nathan7401 5 лет назад +1

    I am looking to learn but I think I read that they use different strings. I think it said fiddle uses steel core strings or something?

  • @Esrom_music
    @Esrom_music 4 года назад +4

    Funny I always thought fiddle playing vs violin playing was in the posture and hold. Thought basically fiddle players held with hand and violin held with chin.

  • @nicolasmogensen8727
    @nicolasmogensen8727 11 месяцев назад

    In German "f" is written as "v" so just by doing that we have "viddle" which immediately looks much closer to "violin". Yeah, they're the same.

  • @randomfrog1196
    @randomfrog1196 Год назад +1

    Fiddle players sometimes sand the bridge flatter than the bridges on a violin.

  • @generalbarry
    @generalbarry 3 года назад +4

    I always say, a violin sings, a fiddle dances.

  • @rakhisharma4692
    @rakhisharma4692 4 года назад +1

    Which music were you playing when the video started 😊

    • @laurawallbank
      @laurawallbank 4 года назад +1

      If you mean the intro music, that was fiddle. If you mean the music when you could very first see Darol, that was classical violin

  • @hydrolito
    @hydrolito 3 года назад

    Explains at 4:15

  • @NG-ww9gv
    @NG-ww9gv 4 года назад

    What about a stringy-paddle?

  • @user-rv9qi7gb2b
    @user-rv9qi7gb2b 2 года назад

    Fiddle feels like fun.

  • @vegitagames8081
    @vegitagames8081 4 года назад +1

    Então a diferença é que o violinista toca mais pela partitura e o fiddle toca mais de cabeça? Show!

    • @italoyvens7767
      @italoyvens7767 3 года назад

      Não,a diferença é que quem toca violino toca músicas mais elaboradas e técnicas já o fidlle é o mesmo violino mas com músicas populares e folclóricas,como o violão erudito e popular

    • @italoyvens7767
      @italoyvens7767 3 года назад

      Eu entendi isso,mas também entendi que fidlle é um nome genético pra instrumentos parecidos com o violino ,tbm achei isso aqui Western classical players sometimes use “fiddle” as an affectionate term for the violin, that intimate companion and workmate. But in the United States, most often “fiddle” means the violin as used in Irish-Scottish-French traditional music and all the descendant American styles: Appalachian, bluegrass, Cajun, etc.

  • @SaltheartFoamfollower
    @SaltheartFoamfollower 4 года назад +1

    Living in Switzerland, and Geige is the Violin, Fiedel is the Fiddle

  • @ibkristykat
    @ibkristykat 3 года назад

    I think of the fiddle as fun. The violin is the stuff ya gotta play only classical music to refer to it as a violin. But i take it as the instruments are the same instruments only referred to as both. ?

  • @rossboyd1162
    @rossboyd1162 2 года назад

    Hi....so many ideas and definitions out there, but here's the one l like.....'a violin player most likely uses musical scores, while the music from a fiddle player comes from his heart.'

  • @vladv5126
    @vladv5126 3 года назад +1

    In the '90s, they were all fiddles. Gotta have that 'tude.

  • @deanaconklin649
    @deanaconklin649 2 года назад

    Thank you … settled a dinner time discussion in our house.

  • @ScrotumBalls
    @ScrotumBalls 3 года назад +1

    "They played us like a damn fiddle!"

  • @pro42o81
    @pro42o81 3 года назад

    best part of this instrument imo is the fiddle. thanks for the content

  • @grandma.p
    @grandma.p 3 года назад

    Do you think classical violin is a good background before learning to fiddle?

  • @patriciajrs46
    @patriciajrs46 2 года назад

    Do you know how to play Turkey in the Straw? Or Old Joe Clarke?

  • @thefalchion
    @thefalchion 4 года назад +4

    0:58 no way this happened

  • @korkiwi
    @korkiwi 4 года назад +2

    A violin fiddles around with country and bluegrass.

  • @phoenixanderson8382
    @phoenixanderson8382 3 года назад

    Hi

  • @uptonsavoie
    @uptonsavoie 3 года назад +2

    If you're selling it, it's a violin.

  • @PSlo0over
    @PSlo0over 4 года назад +2

    Oh my this gotta be the funniest comment section ever!

  • @guitarconspiracy
    @guitarconspiracy 4 года назад +1

    I was told a fiddle has less curve in the saddle?

    • @laurawallbank
      @laurawallbank 4 года назад +1

      I think you mean the bridge, sometimes they do and sometimes they don’t. It’s really personal preference. I, as a fiddler, personally prefer a slightly flatter bridge, but not super flat.

  • @GroovingPict
    @GroovingPict 4 года назад

    dont fiddles generally have a significantly flatter bridge compared to a violin?

  • @f.b.iagent906
    @f.b.iagent906 2 года назад

    This sound i remember in the l4d2 game files l4d2 horde danger beta horde called fiddle so i opened it and found this instrument.

  • @ExtremelyOnlineGuy
    @ExtremelyOnlineGuy 3 года назад

    Oh it’s a term of endearment? So can I only say fiddle? Or can I use a hard r?

  • @htfiddler
    @htfiddler 11 месяцев назад

    Hi Darol ... I need to take issue with your comment that any fiddle can be a violin. What about the viol, rebec, erhu and morin khuur, to mention just a few examples of many early fiddles that predated our favorite Cremonese invention? I have always said that a fiddle is any musical instrument with strings, played with a bow. Perhaps it would be more accurate to say any "modern western fiddle" can be a violin, but I s'pose that might be "splitting hairs" (no pun intended). :)

  • @sarahoko2090
    @sarahoko2090 2 года назад

    Epic battle: violin vs fiddlle!. Ugh. The nerd in me, just hit me.

  • @Ser_Locke
    @Ser_Locke 3 года назад

    THEY PLAYED US LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE!

  • @welpjesphinx8881
    @welpjesphinx8881 3 года назад +1

    Difference is that Larl isn't played like a violin.

  • @ballofwax9yards
    @ballofwax9yards 4 года назад +1

    Very little. Country more double stops or two strings at once and volume strings. Violin more single notes and expensive strings.

  • @aus71383
    @aus71383 3 года назад

    0:29 that note hurt my brain

  • @drekdrek2988
    @drekdrek2988 3 года назад

    Fiddle is awesome. Ragtime annie ❤️

  • @wyattdean5658
    @wyattdean5658 3 года назад

    What about bass fiddle?

    • @richardwebb2348
      @richardwebb2348 Год назад

      In the 17th century Europe, the bass violin ('basse de violon' in France) was slightly larger than the standard 18th century instrument - the one we are familiar with. The string bass 1 octave lower was called a 'double bass or violone. All can be called a 'fiddle' if it pleases.

  • @Axolautism
    @Axolautism 5 лет назад +3

    3:38 "might be making it up"
    Welp. Can't do that. I'm not sure I can ever call myself musically inventive....

  • @albinoviper2876
    @albinoviper2876 2 года назад

    I got a Pick Fiddle aka Guitar Yeah play more Fire on the Moutain!