You're Doing Scenario Training Wrong
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2021
- Martial artists are almost unanimously BAD at scenario training, and this video explains why.
Videos of "scenario training":
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What if the scenario was actually just the friends we made along the way?
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😂😂😅😅
One of these friends suddenly puts your other bud in a headlock and pointing a gun at their head.
What next?
@@fatass-bass we say "what the hell dude?" and walk away and call the cops like the dude in 5:07
"John Wick roleplay power fantasy"
Beautifully worded! 😂🤣
that sounds like witcher school for the insecure. perfectly said
According to these self defense schools. It's apparently worse to have a knife than barehanded. The knife weilder always loses somehow.
You're making me think of Colion Noir's stress training. He openly shared the ways in which he failed. There was a message there. "If you think I'm badass, just because I have this platform, then take in this situation, when I totally would have gotten myself thrown in prison, because I overreacted.
A good lessons is: if you're not regularly failing, you're not training realistically.
Problem is so many people learned bullshit in the 80s and 90s and they can’t let it go
I can appreciate the time put into this video particularly the Joe Rogan chorus! You made some good points.
Thankfully, the Joe Rogan chorus was made by ThelusioN, so I could just steal it lol
@ArmchairViolence so creative problem solving with out any consequences
Absolutely wonderful video. In past scenario training, we used flash cards to randomly decide what each participants are going to be doing. There are times when nobody are going to aggress, and there are times when everybody is going to aggress.
Simulation Vs scenario. A simulation is a predetermined drill to practice a tool. a scenario is open ended problem solving exercise. It helps to have language to differentiate between the two methods.
The Dog Brothers did some scenario training for their knife defence DVD that looked pretty realistic. Lots of "deaths" early on in the seminar.
The skit at the end was hilarious, and unfortunately true in many training facilities. Keep up the good work sir..
I trained at a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu school for about a year, and we did some scenario training that I feel like was at least good enough to be quite helpful in developing useful reflexes, etc, we didn't ever call it scenario training. We had what we called a reflex development Day, and it mostly consisted of making one person put on gloves and they were allowed to throw punches, use headlocks, even guillotine chokes, or other things that would be common for an untrained person to do and the goal was to beat them using jujitsu. It was far from perfect, but I feel like it went a long way toward making usable reflexes. I've also been involved in a lot of horrendous reality based scenario training, unfortunately, and most of that was likely very close to useless at best.
Awesome video
All of this really resonates with what we doing in competitive sports. Running drills to get competent, then stress testing in friendly games.
"Boom, roasted." XD
There was a Self Defense Competition of some sort on RUclips. They did a good job of scenarios because they put somebody in a theater where everybody was wearing pads, so you didn't know who to expect in the attack. Nothing was coreographed and the co testants didn't know what the scenario was other than "Go in that room and see what happens.". At the end of the scenario, the ones who scored highest were the ones who avoided a fight altogether.
They also did realistic knife attacks and things to show how little knife defense actually works.
It was creative, put together realistically, and gave the contestants options rather than an answer. The RUclips channel is Martial Arts Journey, and the series called, "Ultimate Self Defense Championship."
Just finished the series. Great stuff. He must know about that series because he's done joint videos with some of the contestants.
it's called: Ultimate Self Defense Championship
There's also a season 2 now, supporting it on Patreon, but I'm waiting until it's done and also trying to catch up on my (500+) watch later list before I start it.
Excellent!
I agree that fighting is about solving problems. I think a lot of traditional martial arts don’t do scenario based training because they would lose students. People will realize quickly that fighting is ugly and their perfectly practiced blocks and such won’t work the way they have trained them. They fail, and get frustrated and quit.
Rory Miller talk about reality based training in his book Meditations on Violence.
Nice video. Good points.
Well done you need more subscribers. Sharing your stuff every chance I can.
Good stuff as always
I remember one time in a training. We were in a row with our eyes blinded and one received a knife from an instructor. Then they took out our blindfolds and make us walk calmly, the thing is the instructor gives an order and the guy with the knife has to attack the first person he sees, and try to not get downed. So if you're the defender you don't know we're the attack is coming from, and if you're the attacker you have to be aware of your surroundings
Absolute best self-defense channel. Your 'realistic' training scenario at the end was gold 😀
My brother and I attack each other completely at random, now that's scenario training
Inspector Clouseau vs Cato
My Kung Fu class had a back hall and we were told to go wait in the hall. One at a time we were called into the room where our instructors were waiting. Some of them attacked us as we walked in and some had training weapons. I was attacked with a bat and disarmed him but I didn't keep the bat. I hit the next person and dropped it. Eventually one attacked me and I threw a kick and not realizing the guy was armed he got my leg with a hidden knife. We weren't able to watch what was going on from the hall and we didn't know who was going to attack us when we walked out into the classroom.
I think the issue here is that in firearms & self-defense training, scenarios are sold either as a thing in themselves, or as a pretext for selling additional training and maybe gear. But in martial arts, scenarios are almost always run at the end of a particular seminar, so there is a financial pressure to give the perception that the seminar they just took was time/money spent wisely. If you've just given a seminar to a bunch of women to knee groins and scratch eyes, you're probably not going to be super-motivated to slam them to the ground before they have a chance to do any of that.
I think there is another kind of scenario training thats worth doing, and that's applying combat sport skills in situations other than 1 v 1 unarmed and facing each other. Basic, but underutilized. Examples include starting a sparring match with one participant in a chair, 2 v 1 sparring etc.
When I see this kind of thing all I can think is 'That's my purse!'
Very interesting. I'd love to see good examples of scenario training for MA...
Excellent.
I misread the bottom of the graphic towards the end as reading: 'Guys, the cow community is making fools out of us right now'.
Joke's on you, cows have perfect scenario training lol 😆
Could you Pin any comments with good examples of Scenario-based Self Defence? Would like to watch them for an idea on how to structure some ( I'm from the UK where we have strict laws against weapons so there isn't really a 'Consealed-Carry' community to reach out to for the experience
Unfortunately, I haven't really found any good ones that don't involve weapons. But the basic situations should be the same as the way concealed carry people do it
You raise many good points :)
my self defense class used to do something pretty close to scenario training, he would give us a situation with an initial attack and an initial reaction, then everything we finish the exchange that ensues, the goal as the defendant is to either get an edge off of the exchange (like a takedown) or to completely get out, the guy playing attacker is here to be a massive pain in the ass. that scripted initial reaction was never a magical perfect move to the expected attack, but a general answer like pulling a tight guard to protect your head. the instructor would insist so much on it "you got no clue what's coming your way, you're here to train self defense so you'll always be on the back foot when shit hits the fan, what matters is that you don't get taken out on the first blow and regain initiative for the few next."
it was pretty uncommon, but from time to time, the cliche self defense demo sequences happened, rarely on a jab cross combo though.
Good ones usually start with long lectures about body language
My buddies and i do something like scenario training in the form of ambushing each other at random for funsies. I think it kinda works.
Sensei Seth did a self defence class where they did a really good job of scenario training. Here it is here ruclips.net/video/pPysz3dYoxA/видео.html
Funnily enough, the scariest scenario trainings I've done were when the attackers were beginners who often fucked up their attacks and did shit they weren't supposed to, so even though I SHOULD have known which attack was going to come, I never knew what to expect and I had to be ready for anything. Basically, our scenario training was pretty good because the attackers were incompetent and unpredictable.
I have enjoyed most of your videos mate and wish you all the success you deserve. My only criticism of this one is; you have no live experience of what Geoff Thompson called the pavement (sidewalk) arena. What happens when adrenaline kicks in and how to control it etc. I would love you to do more on this. Someone already mentioned Lee Morison too - the real deal. I agree that most so called senerio drilling is about as useful as drama improv when you are facing real violence. Keep up the good work
Personally,I will not count on adreanaline! Most the time you're gonna freeze and you vision will shrink like crazy the famous tunnel effect!
What if the scenario we’re training is if we’re attacked by dancers?
Maybe that's what all of the bad scenario training videos were preparing for! 🤯
Ex kravist here, seen a lot of the scenario training done wrong. Unfortunately, I also saw this idea of "If you don't understand it, you need to train more" whenever I questioned the methods - I guess you'd call that the "no true kravist" fallacy?
"No true kravist/Scotsman" fallacy is a little different.
"If you don't understand it, you need to train more" is honestly an excuse I have never heard before and it's hilarious! Excellent material for another "Things Bad Martial Artists Say" video. Thank you!
Congratulations on escaping Krav lol 😆
It's more of a Kafka trap.
@@ArmchairViolence heard that a lot when I was training a style of karate. I love karate and still practice it, I don't practice that kind of karate
Do you have the links to the gun scenarios?
Does anyone here have experiences with SPEAR System (Tony Blauer) coach level scenario training?
If you want to find real scenario training in martial arts, the only 2 places you can find it are in security/armed forces training or in places where its the difference between dying or living... Like israel, or a barrio emergente/villa miseria... You will never find serious training like that in a place where you are never in any real danger
I'm very interested in feedback and improving. We begin with "Can I attack you?" because of valuing consent. Once the student says, "yes", the attack can be anything from standing uncomfortably close to "hitting on" her and refusing to take no for an answer to tackling her. Bad guy responses are deliberately varied.
Sometimes, when she sets a limit, he respects it. Sometimes, he gets angry, "Stuck up bitch! You think you're better than me?" and physically attacks.
We don't have surprises yet. Beginning in the next class, I'm going to add a second or third potential Bad Guy to the scenarios and the attack could come from any of them. Any other suggestions?
What is your opinion of things like reflex development in the Gracie Combatives course?
Which DVD has the reflex development?
Totally agree.
5 minutes of sparring is worth more than one month of sCeNaRiO TrAiNiNg. Instead of trying to predict how the fight will go and replicate that, just give them options and let them make their desicions for themselves.
Dang, wish I had footage from my self-defense classes. I wouldn't say it's "great" scenario training, but I incorporate 1) unknown attacker among several possible, 2)unknown attack (armed or not--may or not use weapon if armed? hold up? sexual assault? picking a fight, etc?), and 3)an endpoint of escaping both the person and the area (there's a "finish line" for the drill, but they have to cross with the attacker far from them).
This has been a pain in the ass for me, as I came from the force on force pistol/conceal carry traning, while trying to adapt that methodology to combatives/knife. There are some specific considerations, such as the attacker needs to give up or die, and the defender can't never give up, no matter how injured he seems. But with strikes or bjj he may be knocked out, chocked, taped, etc. This is something you can't fake like with airsoft or simunition. I'm still working the kinks for a system to work under the force on force principles but for combatives, I think shivworks did it best, but I can't afford a plane and a class from my country hahaha
In Ultimate Self Defence Championship they did some scenarios and where pretty good, I think they run a self defence course that looks good to me.
I remember one time after a few drinks at a party, my friend whose house it was wanted to show me what he'd learned from a knife defence thing he'd been to, only one or two sessions at this point. He passed me one of his knives, a real and very sharp one, and said go on try to stab me. I said "properly?", he said "yeah" and got into his pose. I wasn't as drunk myself at this point, so to avoid an A&E visit, and knowing how martial arts "so the punch comes in (big right punch vaguely towards the body that wouldn't actually land if you just stayed still)" classes usually work from experience, I simply took the knife with my left hand and got into an aggressive stance. He said "no, put it in your right hand". I said "no" and just held my menacing stance until he realised this was a bad idea. No disrespect to him of course, he's a good lad and wasn't a bad fighter but this teacher (and the booze) had given him a bit too much confidence in being able to handle a real weapon scenario.
Maybe, the solution is for martial arts instructors to consult other fields. You mentioned the ccw community. Two other possibilities are social psychologists who study behavior, and theatrical improv groups, who treat call and response and situational awareness as skills to be developed.
I'll use your scenario of an observer walking away from someone else being attacked with a knife as an example. The improv troupe would explore the attack, the observer's initial reaction, the consequence for the victim/attacker, and the psychological consequences for all three after the particular moment. All of those can be explored by a social psychologist, as well. Most self defense scenarios only have two "characters" aggressor and defender. They often ignore two other possible "characters." Provocateur and intercessor. The provocateur is likely to be present in settings where the peer group is comprised of adolescents or where inhibitions are artificially reduced, like a college party with a lot of alcohol.
@@mjsuarez79 I would be interested in a psychology study that looks at people's responses to different kinds of violence breaking out. We know from anecdotes that reactions can be all over the map, but a study that attempts to find the likelihoods of what different kinds of people would do in different scenarios would be really helpful.
Because, so far, all of our preparations for what people are going to do is pretty much guesswork.
Although, I'm not sure how ethical such an experiment would be.
All so true
I did reality based self-defense when I was a teenager. It was my taekwondo schools self defense curriculum. I thought it was great at the time but I didn't know any better. Now I do a lot more sparring and grappling with and without weapons an all that.
That’s true, scenario training lacks in most MA gyms. Adding it to the regular MA’s drill would probably decuplicate people choosing MA’s as their physical activity. After all, most people start to practice looking for the triple combination of better shape, more strength and of course self defense.
From concealed carry Force on force course
25% of scenarios should require force (meaning there going to deadly no matter what you do)
25% of scenarios should not require force
50% of scenarios should be choose your own destiny
Right on Bob. Some scenarios should just be situation normal, nothing happening to deal with. Good point.
Have you looked into Red Beard Combatives or Shivworks here on youtube ? I havent trained with either of them but their methods seem solid.
Shivworks is the one with Craig Douglas, right? I've seen a little bit of his stuff, and he has a very solid reputation.
I just looked up Red Beard Combatives, and I am VERY impressed. I hadn't heard of them before, but their force-on-force and conceptual understanding of escalation of force seems very solid! (from the small sample I've seen)
@@ArmchairViolence Yes sir thats the one. Have you attended any good force on force or scenario based training that you would recommend?
@@dylandepriest5048 Lol nope. Most of the gun based scenario training out there looks pretty legit, but I don't even own a gun.
All the decent martial arts are sport focused. All the effective programs don't do scenario training, and all the 'reality based' programs aren't effective lol
@@ArmchairViolence Lol yeah thats fair i can't think of any "reality-based" martial arts videos that were actually viable off the top of my head. If you ever want to see the firearms equivalent of a mcdojo you should check out voda consulting.
@@dylandepriest5048 Lol I've seen them! It's good to know that the martial arts world isn't the only one with incompetent people!
Scenario training is almost exclusive for security bodyguard training, here in Brasil, and even these often are half-assed from what I could gather... At least they get Situational Awareness training...
Every once in a while the tactical shooting class at my local range feels a little too choreographed. But it's almost completely awesome. The closer the drills are to shooting related tactics the better they seem. The closer the drills are to fighting drills the less faith I have in them. People just assume they know how to fight.
This is very true. Especially when you have instructors that have a firearms background and not a martial arts background.
What we need is classes run by a firearms guy AND an MMA guy to try and blend those two worlds together.
@@ArmchairViolence to that end, look up Craig Douglas. He's a firearm guy and a martial artist. The hand to hand stuff comes from combat sports. He's said in a few interviews that he thinks combat sports has many of the answers when it comes to hand to hand fighting. He then incorporates firearms to those tactics and principles
@@jomess7879 I've seen some of his stuff. He is definitely doing pretty well. Much better than the rest of the industry.
@@ArmchairViolence I'll be training with him next month and Ryan Hoover and Eli Knight next weekend
@@jomess7879 Bruh, I'm going to be at the same fit-to-fight thing!
Love the Joe Rogan mosaic lol
Check out the Video Urban Combatives Stress Test Frankfurt by Lee Morrison, guess you will like ist better
Is it this one? ruclips.net/video/bLOGHwCkfj4/видео.html
It's the only one with Frankfurt in the title.
It's good stress inoculation, but it's not really scenario training. No problem solving!
@@ArmchairViolence Yes, that is the one. It is not scenario with kind of roleplay, but as a stress test it is full of surprising, unexpected moments and puts the candidate under tons of pressure. Defenitely a better way to prepare, than the lame "scenario drills" you criticized" (with god reason indeed).
@@ArmchairViolence But your video made me thinking, it is indeed a big problem, that in selfdefense scenario drills are often these lame roleplay with obvious ending kind of things.0
@@ArmchairViolence agree with your video and conclusions. Definitely recommend digging a little deeper into Lee Morrison with Urban Combatives.
yeah I hated the "self defense techniques" portion of testing in the early ranks. I had one that started off absolutely impractical, using a middle knuckle clap motion to the temples with both hands while kneeing them in the groin (it was supposed to be off of a dble handed collar grab like what school bullies do to get in your face).... an open hand clap to the ears would work better, but they dumbed it down so we wouldn't hurt each other. Anything that doesn't let the attacker/bully grab you would've been better.
Read Rory Miller's Facing Violence. He has some pretty good stuff to help you shape your training and scenarios. But I know, having to read, what a drag... ;)
Every martial arts video right now has the RAT fighting add in front of it. I wanna see it debunked
I don’t claim to be a BA here, but I train security in a a few different areas and I used to train officers with scenario based training. I’d like to think it worked, but somethings I used to do was not perform the same scenario back to back and it was all sorts of incidents like first aid, loitering, and assaults. The one thing I wish we could have found a good answer to was we never used strikes is the use of force and handcuffing scenarios. We didn’t have the gear and I also didn’t wanna give anyone any biased ideas coming in.
Have a look at the Kalah system.
Rory Miller has a good book on scenario training, he runs courses as well. The book is called ‘training for sudden violence, 72 practical drills’, probably a good idea to pick his other books up as well.
I just Googled him and his concepts on scenario training are really good! But the way he ACTUALLY trains ends up being way worse, somehow? He even made it onto McDojoLife! (ruclips.net/video/ZXaaiZur0cI/видео.html)
But his WRITING on scenario training seems pretty good, so I'm conflicted lol
Wow, ok. The book on drills is really good in my opinion and I use the one step drill with new people a lot, I find it useful.
@@ArmchairViolence Rory is a very thoughtful guy who's REALLY caught up in his tma background.
It be like that some times.
@@ArmchairViolenceon McDojo you only saw a portion of Rory Millers one step drill - this is only one of the concepts in his curriculum. It is about targeting, feeling for movement, positioning, seeing opportunities, - you should become capable of delivering proper structure, targeting, positioning, balance, leverage etc as far as I understood the concept. . Also his knowledge on violence is second to none .. At a specific age you may also no longer want to compete or do hard sparring. There are other methods of good training. His stuff his heavily science based. Take a look at it.. In the end, I do agree with you on almost all topics except that there are no other training methods coming close to hare sparring or competition in effectiveness.... sparring and competition of course is a good and valid method... light sparring like randori or just like playing and wrestling combined with "right" scenario training and some other methods will bring good results... Considering self defense, lets be honest criminals are also no mma fighters on a regular basis. They use deception, environment, a weapon and so on. You can also pick up on their tools to counter them at many stages of the process. As you said: self defense is not fighting" it is only a very small portion. Wrong Place, Wrong Time, Wrong People a much bigger. It is actually a legal term the concept we ar talking about is mor of seof protection. Of course there are things that will simply crush you and you can't do anything about it but others, were with the right knowledge, you will get to safety, while other people will be crushed. Spotting danger and where is also a big one .. How to survive an Ambush is another one where operant conditioning as a stimulus response training comes into play, that's also common in the shooting industry. Were OC does good in an Ambush it makes things worse in many other situations. Self Protection is not about Bar fighting, road rage or a dispute with your neighbors - this is about ego.. It is about beeing picked victim or not by a criminal, domestic violence, abuse and so on which goes by very different rules than what most consider fighting. It can also be a about beeing in a profession where you have to deal with criminals. Your fighting abilities comes into play if you survive the first 1 to 3 seconds in these cases.
Keep up your good work. On fighting your always on point....
Generally I don't disagree with your points, but some of these simplistic scenarios you highlight are used to move a new student from static practice to incorporating talking and fighting. It's a progression towards the multi-dimensional, decision-making scenarios that are ideal. Granted, a lot of martial artists aren't trained in how to do these scenarios properly. I highly recommend Jeff Quail's book The Science of Reality Based Training for this purpose. By the way, you might be missing the ton of crappy concealed carry scenario training out there.
If these things were done as a kind of introduction/rehearsal for ACTUAL scenario training, that would be a lot better. It would be reasonable as "here's an example of one possible answer in this kind of scenario!" But a student would only do this kind of thing once or twice, and then they would move on to ACTUAL scenario training
Oh, I'm sure there's plenty of terrible concealed carry scenario training out there, but at least there is also some GOOD scenario training! Unlike martial arts lol
@@ArmchairViolence There are plenty of good martial arts scenario instructors out there, but as you say, they can be difficult to find because everyone who has read Black Belt magazine since 1998 has become an "RBSD" instructor. The likes of Richard Dimitri, Duncan Andrews, Jim Armstrong, Randy King and others do excellent work in this space.
The other challenge is that the de-escalation-focused scenarios don't typically make for great hype-reels and thus don't end up on RUclips.
While there'll be plenty that will be upset about your video because they will feel that they DO incorporate realistic scenarios, I'd encourage them to take this as a gauntlet thrown and actually upload what they're doing to provide a counterpoint.
@@joesaundersau I certainly hope they do. I want to actually see people scenario training correctly!
The extent of scenario training we do is you’ll get in a bad position i.e. bottom of mount and then you try to escape
Isn't this position sparring?
@@crazygreek6341 yeah but like I said that is the closest I’ve done to scenario training
Yeah, some people CALL that scenario training, but it is a different thing. It's good practice, though!
@@ArmchairViolence true position sparring and drilling with increasing resistance is one of the best things, especially for beginners
Hold up, calling these choreographed attacks glorified kata is super unfair to people who practice and get benefits from kata.
People that say stuff like that have no clue what katas are designed for.
I think counter productive sport combat sport reactions would make for a good vid. I oncce flicked out a jab at a dude trying to punk me.
Nothing came out of it and they took it well but I reckon, if you're in a bad neighborhood and do that to someone trying to intimidate you, you just started a fight. Even if you were well within legal rights and it was the right move, the fact that it comes out as an unthinking reflex is probably terrible for your safety.
Gained my respect with the Joe Rogan quote. Love that quote.
Scenario training is cringe. People will never give you the opportunity to apply 99% of what you're shown 99% of the time.
Maybe the purpose of scenarios isn't really to train people for fights (even though that is how it's misapplied.) Rather, scenarios are dances or "katas" that were created & passed down to preserve principles in a pure, idealized form (similar to an oral history) which you do with a partner to illustrate & explore (hypothetical) principles. However, an instructor might not be able to visually identify or articulately express those principles. For the purpose of making money, it probably doesn't matter to the instructor. And so, instead, the scenarios devolve into a means of controlling the classroom: taking up time, making it look like the instructor is showing you something without getting challenged themselves, building false confidence, making you feel like you're getting something for your money, so, yeah, marketing, and simply preventing the practice from getting out of hand and turning into a real fight. And, think about it, an instructor can put on a show with their students, attract more customers, retain more customers, avoid liability, and string them along for more time & money at a slow pace while people try to memorize a complicated list of steps like busy work. At the same time, by "teaching" scenarios, an instructor can frustrate & discourage the real, impatient wannabe fighters from returning. These students are an extra liability because they could cause trouble, challenge the instructor, and possibly make the instructor lose face & credibility in front of the rest of the students/customers. Most students don't want to embarrass their instructor, aren't there for a fight, and, at any rate, are probably scared of the instructor. And that's how the instructor prefers it. It's safer and guarantees more money for the instructor. That's not to say that an instructor couldn't go Berzerker and kick some ass if they had to. It's only their livelihood, not just their ego, that's on the line. But, seriously, can you imagine if a dojo was just a cage with blood all over the floor, bloody buckets & blood-soaked mops in a corner, and ambulances constantly returning to pick up more students? That would be counter-productive.
I agree with you in almost everything... But please, don't use the word "kata". Kata is not a fake fight🙏 besides this everything is spot on👌👌👌👌
Mickey is awesome.
I know you're familiar with Craig Douglas, so if you haven't taken EWO, you need to.
I've watched several of your videos. What is your background? Were you ever in the military, and if so what branch? How many knife fights have you actually been in? Actual street fights? I seriously have never encountered anyone that is the extensive expert on every aspect of fighting and martial arts you are. Amazing.
Fighting background: MMA
Intellectual background: Speech & debate, philosophy, and political science.
Never in the military. I have a marine shirt I wear, but I won it in a pull-up contest.
No street fights or knife fights. I try to stay away from any situation that could lead to that.
I just have a lot of really eclectic knowledge that I find is often relevant to fighting!
If you don't have any relevant experience in an area, perhaps you shouldn't post videos about that subject. Also, perhaps you shouldn't wear a USMC shirt in your videos. It creates a false impression of experience you do not possess.@@ArmchairViolence
@@scottmccoy8783 I have relevant experience in many areas. Especially martial arts.
The USMC shirt was given to me by the Marine Corps. The contest was hosted by the Corps. They gave it to me so that I would wear it.
If you had relevant experience, you might know that I'm weaing a poolee shirt, which is worn by people that haven't yet begun their training. It doesn't denote any military experience.
Well now, look at that....Pee Wee Herman is getting snippy. I certainly have relevant experience. Actually, poolees HAVE begun their pre-training for Boot Camp. Are you a poolee? Have you enlisted? When you won that shirt, did you tell the NCOs running the pull-up station that you were going to wear that shirt while you made a video bashing the MCMAP? @@ArmchairViolence
@@scottmccoy8783 I beg to differ Scott I think Mr Armchair makes it very clear from everything he posts that the arguments he makes stand on the force of the arguments and the evidence provided. If you can find better evidence or more cogent arguments then that's how scientific knowledge develops. I was surprised he offered any justification for his T Shirt mainly because how he got his T shirt is irrelevant to the argument and if anyone were to gain a false impression of experience that I don't possess do you have a selection of T shirts that I might invest in and the sort of people it might impress because that too would be valuable information.
the best scenario training is slap boxing in county jail with 18 year old murderous gang members
Never in the history of muggings has the mugger walked up and said hey! Give me all your money!
They just punch you in the back of the head and empty your pockets while you're on the ground
soo you are saying there is no scenario training that is done correctly if you are not getting into a real fight.
like you need to fight against an unpredictable opponent with full force and aggression.
As I cannot argue against it I would also add that you will get hurt a decent amount by practising any martial art like you suggest in your conclusion.
You see, people you showed in the clips are not necessarily convinced they are training a great and realistic scenario but try to find middle ground between applying their drilled movement in stressed situations and getting hurt very badly over and over.
I'm not saying anyone should go full force! Anyone that starts doing scenario training should already be familiar with light sparring.
You might be able to do SOME things full force (with enough gear) but the focus is on problem solving. Not force.
@@ArmchairViolence gotcha
I'm not trolling when i say this but out of interest have you actually ever been in any fights on the street ?? So many people on RUclips post videos like this and have never even been in a real fight before. I was a bit of an asshole growing up and was in all kinds of violent situations and I always used the basics which work beautifully . Even this "scenario" training is a load of crap !! You can't recreate the fight or flight response that happens on the street. Fighting on the street is more about having mental strength and the balls to go nuts if you need to and most people don't have that in them, some of the most nastiest dudes I seen who can really handle themselves don't train in any martial art or self defence but just have a natural ability to be able to fight or defend themselves and I'm glad to say that I am one of those people . Now I'm a grown man I just want peace and happiness in my life and try to avoid any violence at all costs !!!
Thankfully, I have not been in street fights. I avoid them.
Unfortunately, nothing really mimics the fight or flight response of real violence. All scenario training does is get us really good at decision making under whatever stress we can safely simulate. Training is never perfect, but it's a whole lot better than nothing
What's with the Batman t-shirts ? Anyway, enough talk. Let's fight. Send me location...