How does an anti-siphon frost proof hose bib work
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In this video I share some general knowledge on how a frost proof hose bib (or some may say frost proof silcock) works by design, and the purpose of the anti-siphon valve on the top. 
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Great video. I just got back from my mother's new house and was confused by the setup. Your video answered all my questions and was very helpful. Many thanks.
Thank you Andrew!
Even though I have frost free faucets, I still use the faucet insulating cups, until freezing night are over, to remind me to disconnect any hoses or Y connectors after using the faucet.
Fantastic video! I definitely learned something new. Great job.
HUGE Thank you for a great explanation. I always try to inform my clients as they get confused. It can be confusing when folks hear "Freeze Proof" or "Frost Proof" and then are told that you must disconnect hoses. So many homeowners have broken pipes in the winter and it is VERY simple and preventable. This is why I send out reminders to disconnect hoses. Thank You again. This is so helpful.
My pleasure thank you for the nice comment Rebecca!
Out of curiosity which Builder do you work for?
I have a concern i have this kind of outside faucet so it means i dont have shut off valve anymore? Just remove the connected hose from the faucet then thats is? No need to look for shut off valve before winter comes?
@@kikodablager - Correct. The valve is inside the house where it can't freeze, so no need to use a regular shut-off valve as well, as long as the tube has fully drained. In other words, do as he says and disconnect all hoses, etc, so the tube can drain fully.
Thanks for the info! Hose bibs are now constructed in much longer lengths than you 6", 8" 12" lengths you mentioned. I replaced one in my garage that was about originally about 12" with a 21" bib. I thought; Deeper in the wall...more heat and more length for insulation protection.
Great information thank you for sharing!!
This is the information I needed. Thank you for explaining it so clearly!
HI Bj I am trying to create a safety page would you say I should add this video and will people who dont have a freeze protected valve be able to understand why they need one?
thank you for the video. very helpful for a new house owner.
My pleasure, happy to hear it was helpful!
Thanks for the detailed explanation. We just bought our home and noticed that we have two of these . The ones we have look like they have drip holes on the bottom side. I take it that once you turn it off, the excess water will drip out and not stay in the pipe.
It should be, however if you’re unsure email me a picture at wpoznecki@yahoo.com
The water should just drain where the hose attaches.
You are a very good teacher 👍
Thanks Dan!
You should also post a better picture of the valva diagram. Because when I tried to pause your video, to zoom the diagram picture larger, the picture diagram would disappear immediately. So I couldn't see how the anti-siphon part works...
Just a suggestion... But your video gave me everything I needed to fix a clients clogged valve.....
Thanks again
@@danielbrien1776 Thanks for letting me know, I’ll have to look in to it.
Wow ! Thanks for making this video! Very helpful!
My pleasure I’m happy to hear you liked it thank you for letting me know!
Thanks much! I am illuminated. Greatly appreciated the clear, concise, understandable video.
My pleasure happy to help Doug!
Thank you very much for the great video! Hard freeze tonight over half of the USA!
Yeah, here in Chicago today it was a high of -6°, so make sure nothing’s attached to your hose bib so it doesn’t freeze 🥶
Very educational...thanks!
And if you just twist the spigot/valve off with with a pipe wrench will it hurt the copper piping, when trying to replace the whole anti siphon frost thingy?
Great video! Thanks
Thanks for the info super helpful. Is it common that you attach a timer(while off) to it and leave it on(faucet)for it to leak from the front or are the internals going bad?
Thank you happy to hear you like the video Mario!
The only area water might come out from time to time is the vacuum breaker on the top. Water coming out of anywhere else is a sign that the internal parts need to be replaced.
Thank you so much I've replaced 1 of these 2 times now and they're not cheap
My pleasure happy to help!
Hi BJ, thank you for your explanation! I was unfamiliar with these. Are there compatibility issues with pressure washer units if you try to run them from this type of hose bib?
Hi John! Thank you for liking the video. I’m not 100% sure, but I think you’ll be OK.
@@BJPoznecki thank you!
Great job! Excellent video. Thanks.
Thank you!
Well done - nice explanation- never knew that's how it worked
Thank you JW!
awesome, thank you BJ, good info. much appreciated budd.
My pleasure Kato 👊🏼
Excellent detailed info! Thank you for sharing : - )
Thank you Irish!! 🍀
BJ, thanks for the video! I found out that my hose was connected to the hose bib throughout the winter. The hose had been mostly drained (a little water dribbled out when we moved the hose) and it didn't have a sprayer on the end of the hose. My hose bib is similar to the one in the video you shared that is connected to inside my house water system. Do you think I'm safe to turn on my hose bib based on the anti-frost principles you explained in your video? Thoughts?
Hi Benjamin, I’m happy to hear you liked the video!
Well, if you have an unfinished basement, or that area is open and exposed, what I would do is have someone inside by the hose bib while you turn it on this way if it is cracked and it does leak you can turn it off right away and have a plumber replace it.
if you don’t have access to visually see the pipe because you have a finished basement, it’s inside a wall, etc. then the only way to find out is the turn it on and monitor if there’s any water leaking inside the home at that area.
Wow man thank you so much, I had no idea how these worked
My pleasure Mitch!
While it gave me some information on how they work I had guessed at and that my guesses were just about spot on to your description. What I'm looking for is a diagram or a complete picture or video that sj
Hey BJ good video! I have a question for you. Should you leave the hose bib open or shut during the winter months?
Thank you!
If you have the same style frostproof hose bib like in this video. It’s OK to turn it off because it turns off the water inside the home where it is warm.
@@BJPoznecki OK BJ thank you!
After the water is off and drained you should still put a cap over the end so no cold air gets in.
I bought one 8in frost proof and i always have a hose connected and sometimes my painter's leave faucet on and always hose been connected and on top of that it was 20° degrees cool couple day i guess that busted my faucet? So the 8in faucet pipe leak when i open my faucet like sprinkle under my croosspace 😢im going to replace it with new one but if is cold like 30 degrees you recommend not to connected the hose and use water or just don't connected at all?
Sorry to hear! Yes, in the fall before the temperatures start to get colder, you’ll want to disconnect any hoses, caps, timers, etc. Leaving anything attached to the faucet can trap the water inside it, expand, and crack the pipe.
I "had" this exact 12 inch spigot installed on my new home built two years ago. I unscrewed everything off of it and only covered it with one of those insulated covers during the winter. It was 70F yesterday so I used the spigot for the first time and noticed water pouring out of the air weep holes in my brick. I was able to replace it myself since the builder told me there is so much slack in the water line that I can easily pull out the spigot to replace it. So my frost proof spigot did crack, but I wonder if I just had a faulty unit and it just cracked from something other than freezing water. I have a different brand now that is entirely made of chrome and I used some great stuff insulation to hopefully help with the cold air draft in the wall since that wall for the spigot is in my garage.
Hard to say, like you said maybe there was just a cold air draft in the wall and something froze. Moving forward with the new hose bib as long as you don’t have any caps, hoses, timers, etc. on it there’s no need to disassemble it or take it apart, or even cover it with one of those Insulated covers. Just make sure nothings trapping the water inside and it will be fine.
It needs to be installed on a slight slope so the water can fully drain via gravity.
Thanks a lot. I was hoping the anti-siphon part was a pressure relief in case it did freeze 😪
I like that jacket!
So to be clear, I can use the spigot during winter as long as I don't have anything attached to the spigot? Thank you!
Sorry for the delayed response Kim. Yes, you can use your spigot in the winter!
very helpful
Thanks Joe!
Any way to bypass the siphon? I’m trying to use a sprinkler pump and want to siphon water
You might be able to take out the vacuum breaker that’s inside the round cap on the top. However, then you would have to try to find a cap that would fit on there because the cap that’s on there has slots to allow water to come out, so it would leak if you used the same cap.
Nice Vedio sir!.
I have frost free bib Outdoor Faucet. Unfortunately I left a garden timer attached to faucet last winter. that probably stops water flow through faucet , I don't see any crack in the pipe. but no leak/water from faucet or anywhere from pipe. what causing water not coming through faucet. Please help !!
Thank you for the compliment on the video! At this point you would have to replace the internal parts of the hose bib. I would recommend having a plumber do it as it is more of an advanced repair.
Does the anti siphon need to be turned a certain way for the winter? I put the styrofoam covers on just incase. We just moved into a new house
Nope it’s always on. And, what’s nice about those hose bibs you don’t need to put the styrofoam covers on if you don’t want to.
should the knot on the top of outside fault the anti siphon valve I think you called it, should it be open or closed. I just noticed it wasn't closed or tightened all the way and didn't know why. Thanks
There’s a few different styles typically they should be hand tightened. They can unscrew so you can replace the internal parts.
Great video. I did not know any of this. Is should be common knowledge but at 50 I just leant this and will tell all home owners.
Thanks.
I will give you a like and subscribe.
My pleasure thank you BC!
Good information
Thanks Kelvin!!
@@BJPoznecki yeah no problem. Had to return the one my grandpa got and get the right size but I got it done
@@Kelvinllovejr Good to hear bud!!
So, on an outdoor spigot with an Anti-Siphon valve. Should the valve be open or closed?
There’s nothing for you to open or close. The anti-siphon valve will open and close automatically.
@BJPoznecki I believe he has the same assumption as I do. So the knob can actually be turned and I always wondered if turning that knob actually does anything. You’re saying it doesn’t?
Hello! Question for you… I have basically that same bib in the front of my house, and after I turned the water supply back on, I went to turn the bib in, and no water was coming out. And when I slightly uncovered the anti siphon cap, the hose would then work fine * no leaks from the cap * is that normal?
No, it sounds like the internal parts are starting to wear out. They have rebuild kits that you can buy at Ace Hardware.
ruclips.net/video/KlDZyKpwFV4/видео.html
@@BJPoznecki oh really… hmmm even if there’s no dripping from the cap, you still believe it could be an issue? My plumber knowledge is very below par haha… could the cap im speaking of not be the anti siphon cap and be something else? It’s our first year in the house
I'm tempted to leave the hose connected, but not directly... Given the explanation, it seems like if I put a Y splitter on the spigot, left a hose attached on one side, and opened the other side with nothing attached to it whenever the spigot was turned off, then the water would drain out just fine and no cracking could occur even with a hose full of water still connected. Sort of a manual drain valve for that first 12" or whatever that sticks into the house.
Like the idea Mike!!
Could of used this b4 my garden hose faucet burst but good explanation that everyone can understand. And he is 100% correct if you leave your garden hose still attached it will not drain the “enough amount” of water that will eventually burst your pipe..I never really thought to much into it but yea make total sense
Thank you!
Does it matter that the water line is angled down a little from the bib
No, that’s OK if it’s a little bit back pitched as long as there is nothing on it in the winter trapping the water in the chamber then you’ll be OK.
Thanks for the video. However, why is the anti-siphon valve adjustable? Should it be screwed down tight in the summer or winter? Why is it adjustable?
I can only speak for this style hose bib, and it’s not adjustable. The cap spins because there’s a vacuum breaker inside it that will release water when there is back pressure.
@@BJPoznecki Maybe it just spins. The ones I have, they spin, but you can tighten or loosen them. Maybe it's not meant to "loosen" but to keep tight, and if there's back pressure, it will unscrew itself ? Thanks for replying.
@@watteau6646 Maybe yours unloosen’s so you can repair or replace the vacuum breaker parts inside it.
@@BJPoznecki Thanks, that makes sense. I'm just keeping it tight for now. Thanks for making that video!
@@watteau6646
My pleasure, happy Sunday!
We have replaced the washers/gaskets, the anti syphon plastic plunger thingy, the spigot off, but still leaks no matter what, have to shut the main valve when know one needs to use the water. HELP! I have no accessible entry to see if my piping is sodard or threaded.
Sorry to hear that didn’t work. At this point your best bet is just to have a plumber get involved.
So what does the knob on the top do? And does it turn?
Hi Kis- It’s not a knob that’s the vacuum breaker where water will spurt out if there’s water back flowing. It’s a safety device so dirty water doesn’t backflow into the drinking water and contaminate it.
Thanks for the video! If water is coming back in the house how would one know?
Thank you! It would flood your house in that area where the hose bib is.
@@BJPoznecki I didn’t ask that question correctly, anyway thanks
@@kauaireed9006 If there was a crack in the hose bib chamber pipe you wouldn’t know until you turn the water on, and then it would leak back into the house.
Hope this helps.
Anyone know if the performance is affected if the anti siphon is upside down. I do drain it each winter with success, but my question is is the anti siphon system working if it's upside down, will it still prevent water from coming back in? Thanks.
It can be installed upside down however you wanna make sure that there’s a downward pitch so that the water runs out and doesn’t freeze inside.
@@BJPoznecki Yes, There is a downward pitch. Thanks for replying! Much appreciated.
Gotta remove the top cap or leave it open a little or nope?
No need to touch the top cap. Water will spurt out of there from time to time that’s good it’s doing its job.
@@BJPoznecki ok, even if the cap is tightened? Just leave like that?
@@MrEgg- Yeah the only time that you would need to remove the cap is if you had to replace the vacuum breaker inside of it. That’s why they can screw off and on is so you have access to it.
@@BJPoznecki thanks so much!! I'll leave mine slightly tightened then
Wow i left my water hose on all winter and now water is barley coming out...do i gotta change whole thing?
Sorry to hear Geo.
You might be able to get away with just changing out the internal parts.
I would start with following the instructions in this video ruclips.net/video/KlDZyKpwFV4/видео.html and hopefully that will solve your problem. Naturally, turn off the water to the hose bib if there is a shut off valve, or you will have to turn off the main shut off valve to the whole house.
Otherwise yes, you may need to replace the whole hose bib.
@@BJPoznecki thanks
so do I have to unscrew that top cap ever?
No, however every once in a while a little bit of water may spurt out of there that is normal.
Yeah we moved into a house and the previous owner had left the hose attached and the pipe cracked. A fun little diy project. 😂
Ahhh sorry to hear John!
That’s why I made that video because a lot of my customers were new homeowners and didn’t know.
I hope the project goes smoothly!
Show it working.
The valve on the top will allow the water to flow out of the hose after you turn off the valve and leave the hose end open. This should help keep the water from freezing back into the frost free valve. Isn't this the way it works?
Negative, you always want to remove hoses, caps, timers, etc. before the temperatures drop.
@@BJPozneckiThanks for the response.
Frost proof? Mine looks exactly like that one. No hose hooked up and it's frozen. Trying to find a video on how to thaw it out.
It’s possible you could have just the anti-siphon style hose bib and not one that is also frostproof.
If you have access to the piping that leads to that hose bib inside the home, ie. from the basement if you have one. You could take a heater, hair dryer, or heat gun and heat the pipe to thaw it out.
Now that the snow is melting and about 48 degrees outside. I went to turn my faucet and didnt feel any resistance, it just keeps spinning and no water came out. Anyone know why? I already replaced it once last year. Is it frozen? No leaks anywhere
I had this happen to a friend of mine last year. The internal parts failed and had to be replaced.
You can typically buy the shaft with all the gaskets and internal parts on it at Ace Hardware.
The only thing you need to do is bring yours with you to match the length, as there are a variety of different lengths and manufacture styles.
@@BJPoznecki yea i watched a couple videos and seen that. I just replaced the whole sillcock before wimter last year. All well ill wait till next weekend to do it. Thanks for the help.
@@DG-888 My pleasure happy to help!
Just want to let you know in my situation some of the parts were stuck inside of the chamber, so I turned the water back on to the house and the pressure blew them out. I let the water run for a couple minutes to flush everything out really good. Then, turned off the water and inserted the new parts and it worked like a charm!
I think mine might have had a slow drip. I covered it with a styrofoam insulator knowing we had freezing weather on its way. Now there’s ice all around the cover and the cover is frozen to the wall. You can see that the water came from inside the insulator. I’m assuming it’s safe to say that when things thaw, I more than likely will have a broken chamber on my hands? Should I try and thaw it? Or wait for it to thaw on its own? (We still have freezing temps for the next few days.)
And thanks for the the video too. Great job explaining how it works.
Hi Jeremy thank you for the compliment on the video!
If you have a shut off valve that goes to that hose bib inside the house I would turn it off because more than likely you’re right and the chamber is frozen, may have cracked, and will need to be replaced. Which replacing is easier to do when the temperatures are above freezing.
@@BJPoznecki Thanks for the reply and info, BJ! 👍🏼
@@jeremymoss3063 My pleasure Jeremy!
It's rediculous that water leaks out of the cheap plastic siphon cap.
Hello I turner of my water supply going to the outside with this same faucet but still left a hose connected to the faucet. I disconnected the hose thawing it out and it was frozen inside also in the faucet. Will I need to replace the pipe?
Turned off my water supply going to the outside faucet***
@@walterbeteta5652 Once the temperatures rise above freezing turn the water on and see if it’s leaking inside the home.
If water is leaking then yes you would have to replace the hose bib.
Thank you for the info. I appreciate the help also
@@walterbeteta5652 My pleasure!!
Looking at the problems some below have had makes me think that these are not worth it.
How did things work before these were invented? The whole North of the country didn't have flooded basements every year, surely?
Well, actually, some people did have issues. If you don’t have a shut off valve inside the home where you can turn off the water and open the hose bib so the water could run out then they did freeze and burst the pipe.
Well, I should say here in the Midwest, we did have problems.
In Virginia, those of us without a separate shutoff simply cover the hose bib with an insulated cover to protect against short periods of hard freeze. Keeps the wind off. Works fine.
How to fix it when the pipe is broken due to freezing.
That’s a more advanced repair please call a plumber.
I messed up left hose on yes water came in basement plumber is coming. Live and learn.
Sorry to hear Donna.
Newer houses? That technology is much more than 50 years old.
Joke with your plastic handle in my -17 to -22 weather
Sounds 🥶 stay warm, my friend!
...But why male models?
🤣🤣🤷🏻♂️ thank you Joe! ❤️
useless video from a visual/usability/instruction perspective. All I heard was blah blah blah as I zipped through it to try to 'see' how to do the repair (which wasn't shown).
Hi Peter- If you’re looking for a video on how to repair an anti-siphon frost proof hose bib that’s leaking or not working see this video:
ruclips.net/video/6nO9mhJ-S24/видео.html
Boring if your just talking about it useless show us the problem or tge repair
Sorry to hear you didn’t like the video Paul. The purpose of the video was just to explain how a frostproof hose bib works to my customers.
@BJ Poznecki they don't work anything from prier is junks I replaced 2 our side faucet with prier 14 inch all brand new everything not even a year later they both leaked and yes the outside water was off during winter their junk
Waste of time.
Sorry to hear you didn’t like the video Robert. What could of I done to make it better?
@@BJPoznecki Well, you could have taken one apart and shown the inner workings. Best wishes.
@@robertmorley3609 Thank you for your feedback. Sorry for the confusion. The purpose of the video was to just give a general explanation to my customers that bought a house with the builder that I used to work for, with the main focus to remove garden hoses, timers, caps, etc. because people were leaving them on and damaging the hose bib, and it was an item that was not covered under the builders warranty.
Great well detailed info. 👍
Thanks Ron!