@@kN0li Interesting; that contradits this video so I wonder if those servers had to mod that in beyond just giving those classes the wrench. How do most randomizer servers work? Do they just not give other classes building ability but do give them wrenches potentially?
@@AlexanderRM1000 it's probably a plug-in or yes, mod. The randomizer server I play on has the rules of: if you're an engineer, you can build anything because you have the PDA - but only upgrade/repair if you're lucky enough to also spawn with a wrench. If you're any other class that spawns with a wrench, you may only upgrade and repair buildings (and you now have 200 metal to do so, I guess)
@@AlexanderRM1000 i believe i've experienced other randomizer servers where, when you spawn with a wrench, you're also given the construction/destruction PDA so you can build, but I personally like the other rules better I previously mentioned in the other comment.
I remember years ago there was this bizarre exploit that made spies able to build dispensers, this video makes it a little more clear how that was possible
@@Captain_Carrot "This button here, builds Teleporters. This button, builds Dispensers. And this little button makes them enemy sum-bitches wish they'd never been born!"
@@nuralimedeu because he doesn't put in any effort into erecting stuff. He only commands buildings to build themselves, and that is unique to him. Hence Whisperer.
@@lev7509 He literally just plops a toolbox on the ground and the building pops out on its own and starts functioning automatically once it is fully deployed up until it is demolished, destroyed, sapped or wrangled.
This also explained how in MVM, when you buy the max metal capacity, you pick up more metal from map's ammo boxes but still only 100 from dead teammate's ammo boxes. For those who don't play MVM, there is an esstential engineer upgrade where it increases your max metal capacity, up to 600. So if your carry capacity is 400, you get 200 from medium boxes (big ammo boxes still fully refill of course); and 300 if your max is 600. But the amount you get from dead teammates boxes are always 100 regardless of your carry capacity.
@@willowdrakon enemy robots do not drop ammo boxes otherwise it trivialises the point of buying ammo capacity. The building gibbs still function as normal.
@@heladovegano9770 Imagined the first track that plays in Meet The Scout as he ran, then built at light speed after getting there, spinning around while whacking them with his bat
For that entire time I thought that the wrench on randomizer was nerfed to not be able to upgrade buildings because maybe people were whiny about the amount of lvl 3 sentries back in the day... but as it turns out it was the property of the wrench on other classes the entire time...
2:55 Actually you can still destroy them via the destroy console command. I know because I once built a sentry as a non-engineer class through RTD and accidentally destroyed it by inputing that command (I have it bound to make engineer easier)
considering that the engineer can suicide, and so is every other class, I think self-destruct suits it better and probably less disturbing than seeing "4. suicide" if its how engineer is meant to play the game "1. 200 Metal Capacity 2. Upgrade 3. Repair 4. Haul 5. Self-destruct"
@@anormalstopsign74 I don't really see that as a joke though, the video is quite simple to understand and informative but if that was an intentional joke I may have missed, my bad. But so far, I still don't really see it as a joke
This explains a lot about why on MvM, when you have your metal capacity upgraded, you can pick up a medium ammo box from the ones that spawn and get half your total metal capacity, but picking up ammo boxes that were dropped by a dead teammate always gives you 100 no matter your metal capacity.
Thanks for making these videos. Very informative, but most of all I love your dry humor and deadpan delivery. You have a very unique comedic voice, keep it up!
The fact that they gave each class a metal supply to drop instead of making the resupply function just resupply every ammo-like counter is a classic TF2 Valve moment
"Toolbox is in a unique slot separated from us" I noticed that Engineer's loadout goes like this: Primary - Secondary - Melee - PDA While Spy's has: Secondary - Melee - PDA - Building The Sapper is placed in the "building" slot, so could the toolbox be there too?
What is an engineer? You didn't clarify what makes an engineer an engineer. It was not engineered to let us know what an engineer can engineer. Dislike.
So, there used to be an OLLLLD exploit where you could temporarily build a dispenser as Spy via console commands. So I'm guessing they accidentally gave him the toolbox at one point?
The reason why Engineer is the Engineer is because he can solve problems, but not the ones such as "what is beauty?", as it falls into the conundrums of philosophy. He can solve practical problems. For instance? How is he going to stop some big mean mother-hubbard from tearing him a structurally superfluous new behind? He'll use a gun. And if that doesn't work? He'll use more gun. Like that, heavy caliber tripod designed by him, built by him, and you're best hope is that it isn't pointed at you.
That's a very engineered video you made there, I love it~ I also learnt a lot too and why certain bugs would happen when I played randomizer or tried to force build stuff, so thankyou Shounic~
i like to imagine that, in terms of lore and the actual characters, Pyro would be able to build like the Engineer i mean, it made its own flamethrower from scratch (as far as we know,) is smart enough to know how to remove sappers off of the Engineer's buildings, and in the comics (small spoilers, but it's not even that important to the actual story,) it became the CEO of an engineering company in only 6 months and managed to make everyone there millionaires in that time
This is the kind of thing that I howl becomes part of a weapon at some point. Having another class be able to tap into their metal supply in one way or another.
Interesting thing about this. I used to play tf2 zombies on muselks servers back in the day, and back then, whenever you died as engi and turned into a zombie, your first life would be with a wrench. I thought that that itself let you build buildings with the build command, but I guess it's because something during the class change also gave you the toolbox. I guess it's an interesting thing to learn
I actually had a weapon idea for Heavy or Pyro, that would help engineers help build their stuff Here are the stats: (+)Can upgrade engineer's buildings by hitting them (+)+10% damage to enemy buildings (-) Upgrading buildings decreases your primary ammo (1 ammo = 1 metal) (-)-50% damage vs players (-) Can't remove sappers
The thing spy sapper when place is a building when place and is a pda because it has 100 and dies to 1 homewrecker swing which does 130 to building which is more than enough to destroy it. The jag takes 3 swings because it has a damage penalty against building. The irony of engineer's mortal enemy being closer him in terms of shared mechanics than other class in the game including pyro is amazing
i want heavy when standing still and spinning his minigun to say after 10 seconds of only spinning his minigun and not moving he said - beep... beebeebeep... beebeebeep...(sentry gun noises)
Broke: Destruction PDA
Woke: Suicide Pact Button
"the escape plan"
Is it ok if we don't suicide please 3;?
@@canerozcan4247 nop
caner özcan nop
please 3;
This actually explains a lot about randomizer servers
and, on some randomizer servers you can even upgrade buildings as any class with a wrench
same thought
@@kN0li Interesting; that contradits this video so I wonder if those servers had to mod that in beyond just giving those classes the wrench.
How do most randomizer servers work? Do they just not give other classes building ability but do give them wrenches potentially?
@@AlexanderRM1000 it's probably a plug-in or yes, mod. The randomizer server I play on has the rules of: if you're an engineer, you can build anything because you have the PDA - but only upgrade/repair if you're lucky enough to also spawn with a wrench. If you're any other class that spawns with a wrench, you may only upgrade and repair buildings (and you now have 200 metal to do so, I guess)
@@AlexanderRM1000 i believe i've experienced other randomizer servers where, when you spawn with a wrench, you're also given the construction/destruction PDA so you can build, but I personally like the other rules better I previously mentioned in the other comment.
My brother is currently studying engineering trying to get a degree. Never knew that this is all what he needs.
4 years of college vs a 3 minute video checkmate student loan debt
Yeah suicide pact with every machine that's what he needs
Did your brother manage to become the Engineer
yeah did he failed it or hes working
Indeed
I remember years ago there was this bizarre exploit that made spies able to build dispensers, this video makes it a little more clear how that was possible
That spy is a dispenser
assgore spah is sappin my spah
Wow. I even found the video about that.
ruclips.net/video/qOTnLCCYdUA/видео.html
You even can see how spy replenished his metal in 0:41.
@@SU76M Wow I just found your comments both on this video and that other video!
Holy shit, that vid is from 2009
What makes the engineer the engineer?
Well, that would fall within the purview of your conundrums of philosophy.
I solve practical problem
For instance...
How im gonna stop some big mean mother hubbard from tearing a structurally superfluous new bee hive
The answer...
Use a gun
6. Texan
The pyro might be texan.
Great, now I'm imagining the pyro with a texan voice.
*texan mmphs intensify*
@@golden6294 imagine Engi as Pyro
OH GOD NO, FIRE SENTRIES
@@omoriperocondrip9130 that seems interesting
@@TheCobaltKnight27 Napalm sentry:
-Deals less damage
-Can only fire projectiles
+Sets target on fire
2:13 Heavy has finally fulfilled his lifelong dream of Pootis Spenser
Who is Pootis Spenser and why does heavy want him here
@@d00mprodigy21 ruclips.net/video/-R_HrTG5UrA/видео.html
Dis is Pootis Spencer.
Pootis spenser
Pootis Spenser
Pootis Spencer
"If heavy could build his own teleporters he'd be 200% better"
Heavy + teleporter = THE SUPERIOR CLASS
ruclips.net/video/r_mwNcxuxwY/видео.html
I don't know of he made it that way but
*the link took me straight to that part*
Memeify Inc you can make links go to specific times, yeah
Cool I did not know that
what makes me an engineer?
if i were a demoman, i wouldn't be sitting here discussing it with you, now would i?!
One pressed button, one wayward pinch of metal, one errant wrench hit! And erectin!
lmao
One misplaced sentry, and the whole friendly conga's goin' up in flames!
"If I weren't engineer I wouldn't be here having all my crap repeatedly destroyed now would I?"
@@Captain_Carrot "This button here, builds Teleporters. This button, builds Dispensers. And this little button makes them enemy sum-bitches wish they'd never been born!"
I love how the actual, technical reason that other classes cannot build is because they do not have the Engineer's toolbox.
yes a "tool box"
i see it more like "a jack in a box with a gun inside"
@@arcticfluffyfoxy Well yeah both of those are tools, in a box
"If you can somehow lower your own metal you can steal metal from dispensers"
Exploiters: _Quick! Write that down! Write that down!!_
So according to this, the Engineer should be called a Building Whisperer
Why?
@@nuralimedeu because he doesn't put in any effort into erecting stuff.
He only commands buildings to build themselves, and that is unique to him. Hence Whisperer.
@@lev7509 He literally just plops a toolbox on the ground and the building pops out on its own and starts functioning automatically once it is fully deployed up until it is demolished, destroyed, sapped or wrangled.
@@nuralimedeu because he is the only class able to destroy buildings with a pda, along with upgrade and move them
Who do you think Made the toolbox and the blueprints to construct the buildings @@warpey5632
I destroyed my teleporter entrance because a teammate pushed me off it and I wasn't about to let him use it. That's a real engineer for you.
Why not just pick it up instead of destroying it?
@@jamesgaming7198 It sends a message.
@@jamesgaming7198 It is not about keeping the entrance, it's about sending a message.
@Kotori no shogai Eureka Effect moment.
Evil
"The buildings will only sacrifice themselves for the engineer"
Please don't say it like that or I will feel bad for inanimate objects
Commingle fake inanimate objects at that
Look at the official dispenser plush/uncle Dane dispenser plush video to feel pain
Toy Story 5 had some interesting Caveats.
Remember that bildings won't threaten to stab you, and, in fact, cannot speak
"Oh, engineer. Who could they ever get to replace you? ANYONE! HONHONHONHON"
Upgrades people, upgrades.
Gotta love a robots meme every now and again
@@BertTF2 Ah I see you're a man of culture as well.
Even tho, I saw Robots in spanish, I fully understood that reference.
Since someone mentioned robots here's something to think of: Compare the colour scheme of Rodney Copperbottom to that of Jenny Wakeman from MLAATR.
@@tappajaav They're the same.
Every class has metal... Yes, that's normal every person in the world has iron their blood
it is because they have the big iron on their hip
@@herntex9307 and all that ammo
Pyro isn't human
@@luka9967 He has blood though
@@luka9967 pyro is one huge gas tank
he solves only practical problems.
he is making the engineer not so special since any classes can be him lol
But the engineer is engineer, is that SO FUNNY?!
@@bruschetta7711 Nah, the Engineer is Engihere smh
The engineer is engideer
@@lishanglong6762 *laughs uncontrolably*
Still there are classes that copies the scout like the fat scout or the dwarf scout lol
200 metal capacity
upgrade
repair...
S U I C I D E
No wonder engie sounds so sad when his stuff gets blown up - they’re sentient Q_Q
???
This also explained how in MVM, when you buy the max metal capacity, you pick up more metal from map's ammo boxes but still only 100 from dead teammate's ammo boxes.
For those who don't play MVM, there is an esstential engineer upgrade where it increases your max metal capacity, up to 600. So if your carry capacity is 400, you get 200 from medium boxes (big ammo boxes still fully refill of course); and 300 if your max is 600. But the amount you get from dead teammates boxes are always 100 regardless of your carry capacity.
Do enemy engineers that have no metal only givr 5 when killed? I've never known
@@willowdrakon that's a really good question, not all that hard to test so there's that
@@willowdrakon enemy robots do not drop ammo boxes otherwise it trivialises the point of buying ammo capacity. The building gibbs still function as normal.
Scout: *NEED A DISPENSER HERE*
Engieneer: *trows wrench, pda and tool box to scout face* build it yourself boston boy.
Ok, * proceed to built a base on the enemy team in 13 seconds *
@@heladovegano9770 Imagined the first track that plays in Meet The Scout as he ran, then built at light speed after getting there, spinning around while whacking them with his bat
q. what makes an engineer an engineer?
a. anywhere between 83.3 and 160.66 ms reaction time
Why?
@@nuralimedeu Someone didn't watch the Engineer's reaction time video...
@Qimodis engineer has 5 ms reaction time
For that entire time I thought that the wrench on randomizer was nerfed to not be able to upgrade buildings because maybe people were whiny about the amount of lvl 3 sentries back in the day... but as it turns out it was the property of the wrench on other classes the entire time...
2:55 Actually you can still destroy them via the destroy console command. I know because I once built a sentry as a non-engineer class through RTD and accidentally destroyed it by inputing that command (I have it bound to make engineer easier)
love the editing on these videos
I knew about some of the stuff from randomizer, but didnt know that underlying technical stuff. This was really insightful
"1. 200 metal capacity
2. upgrade
3. repair
4. suicid-"
What...
Do you mean self-destruct?
considering that the engineer can suicide, and so is every other class, I think self-destruct suits it better and probably less disturbing than seeing "4. suicide" if its how engineer is meant to play the game
"1. 200 Metal Capacity
2. Upgrade
3. Repair
4. Haul
5. Self-destruct"
thatsthejoke.jpeg
Yo fam, is that Horaru in your pfp?
@@anormalstopsign74 I don't really see that as a joke though, the video is quite simple to understand and informative but if that was an intentional joke I may have missed, my bad.
But so far, I still don't really see it as a joke
Answer If Horaru Is In Your PFP Or Not
“the cap for metal on non-engineer classes is 100, so to build a sentry, you need to raise that count”
the gunslinger:would like to know your location
This explains a lot about why on MvM, when you have your metal capacity upgraded, you can pick up a medium ammo box from the ones that spawn and get half your total metal capacity, but picking up ammo boxes that were dropped by a dead teammate always gives you 100 no matter your metal capacity.
Thanks for making these videos. Very informative, but most of all I love your dry humor and deadpan delivery. You have a very unique comedic voice, keep it up!
this video did not make me feel YIPPIE-KEE-YI-HEE-YAY-HEE-YI-KI-OH!
TF2 source code: *gets leaked*
shounic: time to get funky
0:02 because he's an engi-here!
2:14 "Now I can Poot Dispenser Here!"
POOTIS
“If Heavy could build his own teleporters, he would be 200% better!”
A superior class
*Teleheavy instensifies*
i thought this was gonna be some goofy stuff but then i saw it was from shounic
Nobody:
Engineer buildings: Suicide is badass!
The fact that they gave each class a metal supply to drop instead of making the resupply function just resupply every ammo-like counter is a classic TF2 Valve moment
1:36
"you need a weapon #28"
but that toolbox has 24 written on it
There is no words to describe how angry i am
To this day i still want to know what the 24 means
Heavy : *POOTIS SPENCER HERE !*
Engi : Nope.
Heavy : Fine i'll do it myself
@The Impure Lucario Formerly A Pure Lucario IS RIGHT, DANCING BABY! SELF!
You remind me a lot of 3kliksphilip, but TF2 instead of CSGO
same
I love how Pyro actually kind of holds the wrench properly
"If heavy could build his own teleporters, he'd be 200% better. Heavy + Teleporters = A SUPERIOR CLASS."
- Lazypurple
Time to wait for a soldier or heavy to run up to my dispenser and scream in voicechat "STOP STEALING MY METAL"
"Toolbox is in a unique slot separated from us"
I noticed that Engineer's loadout goes like this: Primary - Secondary - Melee - PDA
While Spy's has: Secondary - Melee - PDA - Building
The Sapper is placed in the "building" slot, so could the toolbox be there too?
Imagine a strange Killstreak toolbox
0:07 god I wish there were more PDA’s
The machine spirits must be pleased in order to cooperate.
2:17 *Heavy is a superior class now*
Lvl 4 teleporter unlocked
That thumbnail made me not want to click the video at first, but it turned out to be really informative. Good job!
What is an engineer? You didn't clarify what makes an engineer an engineer. It was not engineered to let us know what an engineer can engineer. Dislike.
He solves problems
Not problems like what is beauty
He solves pracrical problems
the thing that makes the engineer the engineer is his passion for his craft and his soft heart
So, there used to be an OLLLLD exploit where you could temporarily build a dispenser as Spy via console commands. So I'm guessing they accidentally gave him the toolbox at one point?
tf2: *exists*
shounic an intellectual: *I'd like to ask several questions*
0:12 or is it?
*moon men starts playing*
The reason why Engineer is the Engineer is because he can solve problems, but not the ones such as "what is beauty?", as it falls into the conundrums of philosophy. He can solve practical problems. For instance? How is he going to stop some big mean mother-hubbard from tearing him a structurally superfluous new behind? He'll use a gun. And if that doesn't work? He'll use more gun. Like that, heavy caliber tripod designed by him, built by him, and you're best hope is that it isn't pointed at you.
he's gone to shitposting bois
Ah yes, the engineer can ｓｕｉｃｉｄｅ his buildings from a press of a button.
That's a very engineered video you made there, I love it~
I also learnt a lot too and why certain bugs would happen when I played randomizer or tried to force build stuff, so thankyou Shounic~
this engineer is a engineer
Seeing Heavy wearing The Engineer’s Hard Hat and Goggles is pretty cursed because he actually looks like The Engineer.
i satisfy all 5 requirements
therefore i am a certified engineer
2:58 "FOR THE ENGINEER!" -Buildings charging into battle
"Heavy + teleporters = *A SUPERIOR CLASS!* " -Lazypurple.
The original title of the vid was "what makes engineer an engineer"
Imagine fighting a spy then he builds a sentry to distract you
I wanna see a spy bulding a sentry just to have a heavy sap it
2:32 *Praise the Omnissiah*
he is engineer
he hit stuff and make it work
'What does it truly mean to be an engineer?' very philosophical
Remember the day Spies could build dispensers?
playing randomizer already teached me this.
i like to imagine that, in terms of lore and the actual characters, Pyro would be able to build like the Engineer
i mean, it made its own flamethrower from scratch (as far as we know,) is smart enough to know how to remove sappers off of the Engineer's buildings, and in the comics (small spoilers, but it's not even that important to the actual story,) it became the CEO of an engineering company in only 6 months and managed to make everyone there millionaires in that time
Don’t test my metal son!
spy be like: haha, 4, and 6 go brrr
This is the kind of thing that I howl becomes part of a weapon at some point. Having another class be able to tap into their metal supply in one way or another.
This says alot about the Engineer’s genius, his buildings designs were made so simple that anyone could do it!
For some reason this video feels like a personal attack.
He said Engineer alot I can't take the time to count how many times XD.
the buildings will only sacrifice themselves for the engineer. Awnn
Interesting thing about this.
I used to play tf2 zombies on muselks servers back in the day, and back then, whenever you died as engi and turned into a zombie, your first life would be with a wrench. I thought that that itself let you build buildings with the build command, but I guess it's because something during the class change also gave you the toolbox. I guess it's an interesting thing to learn
I can only imagine what a pain in the ass the construction was to make
I actually had a weapon idea for Heavy or Pyro, that would help engineers help build their stuff
Here are the stats:
(+)Can upgrade engineer's buildings by hitting them
(+)+10% damage to enemy buildings
(-) Upgrading buildings decreases your primary ammo (1 ammo = 1 metal)
(-)-50% damage vs players
(-) Can't remove sappers
Just use the eureka effect
"What does it mean to be an Engineer?"
"......suicide"
2:31 engineer has a special spiritual bond with machines.
engineer tech priest robe cosmetic when?
The thing spy sapper when place is a building when place and is a pda because it has 100 and dies to 1 homewrecker swing which does 130 to building which is more than enough to destroy it. The jag takes 3 swings because it has a damage penalty against building. The irony of engineer's mortal enemy being closer him in terms of shared mechanics than other class in the game including pyro is amazing
Ah yes, my favorite feature of the engineer, the SUICIDE PACT
What makes the engineer an engineer is he is an engineer
It'd be interesting for an Engie weapon, like a throwable building that you can give other classes to set up for you.
Stumbling upon this channel is like going into that thrift store you didn’t care about and actually finding something neat
shounic: "can other classes be the enginner?"
me: *use the conscientious objector with a wrench picture
Also me: "AhAHaHaHA YoU fOoL !"
This video has made me question more things about my main than any other video I have watched Dover him combined
i want heavy when standing still and spinning his minigun to say after 10 seconds of only spinning his minigun and not moving he said - beep... beebeebeep... beebeebeep...(sentry gun noises)
Yatta, yatta, yattattattatta yatta, yatta
What makes uncle dane, uncle dane ?
We need the ability to have an engineer build really tiny buildings, like multiple incredible weak sentries that he can wear to become more versatile.
The 100 metal on each class is truly a feat of spaghetti code lmao
"If Heavy could build his own teleporters, he would be 200% better."
“You cant upgrade buildings unless you have other engies”. Everybody gangsta till the heavy equips the gunslinger
terapist : heavy can't build a telporter , that's not real .
the heavy :