I picked up the 7'4" for the up coming summer and the board is like a cheat code. Lets you get in early and link sections of the waves to extend your ride. I think its good for smaller waves but once you put it in good waves the board literally flies. Super responsive when pressing on the tail and actually lets you whip turns which was not expected for such a long board. Really glad I added this board to my quiver.
Hahaha love the cheat code reference - perfect description! I was stoked on how easy it is to whip around too. How’s the 7’4, do you feel like you could’ve gone smaller?
@@StokedForTravel I probably could have gone smaller but I'm 6'1" and 210* lbs so I wanted something with a bit more volume in the quiver to be a true mid length. I'm now looking to sell a few of my smaller boards and get the original Seaside at 5'11. In your opinion, does the Helium float more than PU / LFT? I am torn between the 5'10 vs 5'11 for average to better waves.
@@Ironlung330 fair play - I think if you'd gone shorter you could've got more performance, but that's where your original Seaside would come into play. Helium is certainly a bit more corky underneath you, so I'd go for the 5'10
@@StokedForTravel 5'10 is what I was thinking too! Thanks for your your input on the voluming because I was contemplating the 5'11" but it sounds like it will be too corky in the water.
I'm working on a bit of a follow up actually - just waiting for a fresh pulse of swell! Heaps of fun in the bigger stuff though, don't be afraid to push it!
I got a 6’0 seaside a few months ago and I love it, dropped down from a 6’6 puddle jumper because I was progressing and wanted a little more manoeuvrability. The seaside surprised me with how fast it was in comparison definitely a lot of fun and is helping me progress. I was lucky enough to pick up a Glazer off gumtree in perfect condition but I’m yet to test it out. Definitely keen to throw a seaside and beyond into the mix at some point in the near future.
Sounds very similar to the way I progressed throughj the boards too Brenton - although I went a little smaller on the HP at 5'11, really love it as a thruster! You're right though, the original Seaside is fast and the Seaside and Beyond takes all those amazing bits and chucks it in a mid-length. I've just tested out the Glazer too, although I wasn't so keen on it to be honest, but let me know how you get on!
@@StokedForTravel funnily enough the other board I was looking at was. Puddle jumper HP 6’4 but I missed out on it. Will definitely let you know what I think of the glazer once I’ve taken it out
@@StokedForTravel I took the glazer out on Friday for a sunset sesh in 3-4ft super clean conditions, I was not disappointed. I was surprised at how easy it paddled dropping a few litres, it got me thinking I probably could have gone smaller on my seaside, the big thing I noticed was the LFT not having that effortless down the line speed which the Helium tech has, but that could also be to do with the fin setup, I’ve been riding mostly quads and this is my first dedicated thruster board. Super responsive without being hard to control too which I was pumped about.
@@brentontaylor9191 stoked to hear it! I still haven't had that click in sessions with the Glazer and I agree it doesnt have that squirt of speed the Seaside has, certainly have to work it more. A combo of LFT and thruster setup.
@@brentontaylor9191 stoked you're enjoying it! Indeed both the fin setup and overall outline of the board is going to drop a lot of speed between the Seaside and Glazer. If you're looking for something in between then the Mashup is an epic option to add into the mix as well. It's my go to daily driver now!
I use my 7’4 as my step up even Kirra point on my back hand the thing is a dream. However agreed it’s a good all rounder. I’ve definitely found it likes something with a bit of push to really get it going. The seaside is definitely my all time favourite Rob board but I can’t get off 6’4 puddle jumper as I come back from a rotator cuff injury. I would of used my 6’0 seaside but I stupidly got rid of of it when I couldn’t surf lol.
Stoked to hear you’re loving the 7’4 Craig! Indeed it handles the big stuff with ease and definitely livens up in it too 😊 Having ridden this for the last month I’m definitely thinking I need to make room for a Seaside again 🤣 HP is another solid option too - you’ve got good taste in boards!
@@StokedForTravel oh sorry that’s what I’ve got is the PJ HP it’s brilliant gets super of control in cyclone swells. I have a habit of seeing how far will it go the PJHP definitely stops at head high lol. I love my Firewire’s, I’ve been through way to many this shoulder definitely slowed me down though
@Craig Phillips I find it paddles like a demon. It paddles Better then the short one. My decks still in great shape they really have improved the LFT. I have seen a couple of helium beyond’s around so maybe they will do a release of helium ones.
@@StokedForTravel yep! I tried some other quads that were bigger but the board got kinda stiff. Held really well when it got hollow though. I think I prefer the all around performance with the machados.
CI mid was fun, but a very different style of board with the fin setup. More longboard in style. Personally the SSB is much more versatile and fun to ride! 🤙
@@StokedForTravel Holo, Great review! Thanks. I have a CI Mid and I really like it on the biggish well shaped ways yet to me under performs on the small or mashy waves. I mostly ride point breaks backhand (what happens when you live in the Byron Bay - East Coast of Australia and you're left footer) so I'm a bit worry about the quad set up (never ridden a quad, love twins but not as much backhand as I find it unpredictable and hard to control) Questions are: How you like ridding it backhand? and have you tried the Timber Tek. Muchas Gracias!
@@WorkoutAustralia hey Tomas, I've heard that about the CI Mids. I'm based in Byron and goofy footed too so I feel your pain! S&B is great on your backhand and heaps of drive with the quads. Alternatively check out the Cape Collective Midway - thruster setup and available from the guys at Boards In the Bay 🤙
Have you tried the Big Baron from JS ? If yes I'd love to know how they compare as I'm hesitating between the two. I'm looking for a board for good (but not too steep) chest high to overhead waves and considering the 6'8 in both models. Thanks!
Hey James, can’t say I’ve given the Big Baron a blast yet but it certainly looks interesting. I can say that’s the SS&B will certainly handle those conditions no worries and will have heaps of speed and control 🤙
Thanks for this video, this Seaside and Beyond looks incredible, but I am a bit worry about this LFT construction (in terms of durability), I want to travel by plane with my board and the board is quite expensive... I saw that Firewire makes this board in a TimberTek construction too, did anyone got the chance to try one?
Having ridden my S&B for a while now I can say it is still pretty strong - certainly more so than PU. It was more a comparison against the Helium Tech. Timbertek is pretty solid thought and a good choice, just be aware the sizing is slightly different on them
Hey man, great review ! Do you plan on reviewing the addvance at some point ? I'm really torn between several models, i've narrowed down the brand to firewire, i really like their design and build, but I can't decide which board would be best suited for me, I'm 1m86 - 87kg - i consider myself beginner/intermediate , I haven't surfed since corona and I bought a surfskate and I have been training a lot to get those carves, bottom turns, etc all figured out and I can't wait to try them out on a real surfboard. I've only ever ridden 7"6+ PU and foamies, usually 8", but I find them really hard to turn and I want to buy a board that I can evolve and improve with for the years to come, I was looking at 45-50L range and maybe 6"10-7"0 in size, do you have any particular recommendations ? Many thanks in advance !
Hey Mehdi, stoked you like the review! I hadn't really flagged the Addvance for a review, mainly as it's an older model and difficult to get hold of these days, So, given your experience and build I definitely think something in the mid length range is a solid choice, but I'd potentially go slightly longer - maybe the 7'0 to 7'4 range. You're going to have a huge boost in performance just moving from a foamie or larger PU board down that scale, but you also want to keep the paddle power and float to keep your wave count high so you can practice practice practice! Honestly I think the Seaside and Beyond would be a really fun option, go for the 7'0 or 7'4 model though. Let me know what you end up choosing and how you get on!
@@StokedForTravel Just another question, I found a shop where I can rent some quality boards and there's two models that might suit me, the seaside and beyond but it's in 7"0, or the torq mod fun fish in 7"2, do you think both would be good ? The torq has almost 7L more, they really are both near my ideal volume of 48-50L atm so I need some help to decide :p thanks a lot !
@@Flynt89 I'd say if you have the chance to rent before you buy then that's a great route to go. Even the 7'0 Seaside & Beyond would be a great example of what the board can do and what it feels like, so see if you feel like you like it and if you want the longer sizing. As for the Torq I haven't personally ridden any of their models, but my buddy loves his mid length from them. Have a chat with the shop - if they also stock the boards they might knock the rental price off you final purchase price 🤙
Hmmm that’s a tough one! As an all rounder the D2 is more versatile and you’ll be able to progress your turns more. But the Seaside is just heaps fun to surf!haha! Haven’t surfed the sharpeye 2.5 yet though...
I've not had an issue with my LFT boards so far, but they are certainly softer than the Helium build. Totally agree with you on the yellowing though, it's super annoying!
I definitely prefer the Helium and would 100% prefer they rolled that out across the range in terms of durability. I've certainly noticed the LFT is so much easier to ding, even in comparison to standard PU boards
@@StokedForTravel mate I was filthy as. Waited for this thing to be custom made, cost me a fortune as it was one of Tomo’s shapes and it practically fell apart in 2 weeks. The ding repairer had heaps of trouble fixing it too. Once bitten twice shy.
@@marcusdavis2208 geez that's not ideal in the slightest hey? Sorry to hear that. I've had a few slight issues and Firewire have been pretty quick and easy to deal with in terms of customer service, might be worth pinging them an email as well
If you're looking for something that's got a bit of extra performance in it then yes. The Moe is great (review coming soon of it and Moe Mini) but the SS&B was certainly faster and handled bigger, punchier stuff a bit better - so it'll come down to the waves your surfing and skill level
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I picked up the 7'4" for the up coming summer and the board is like a cheat code. Lets you get in early and link sections of the waves to extend your ride. I think its good for smaller waves but once you put it in good waves the board literally flies. Super responsive when pressing on the tail and actually lets you whip turns which was not expected for such a long board. Really glad I added this board to my quiver.
Hahaha love the cheat code reference - perfect description! I was stoked on how easy it is to whip around too. How’s the 7’4, do you feel like you could’ve gone smaller?
@@StokedForTravel I probably could have gone smaller but I'm 6'1" and 210* lbs so I wanted something with a bit more volume in the quiver to be a true mid length. I'm now looking to sell a few of my smaller boards and get the original Seaside at 5'11. In your opinion, does the Helium float more than PU / LFT? I am torn between the 5'10 vs 5'11 for average to better waves.
@@Ironlung330 fair play - I think if you'd gone shorter you could've got more performance, but that's where your original Seaside would come into play. Helium is certainly a bit more corky underneath you, so I'd go for the 5'10
@@StokedForTravel 5'10 is what I was thinking too! Thanks for your your input on the voluming because I was contemplating the 5'11" but it sounds like it will be too corky in the water.
@@Ironlung330 from what I've heard from a lot of people (including in the comments) it's better to go slightly smaller!
Would really like to see some clips of you on the SS&B especially in the bigger better waves
I'm working on a bit of a follow up actually - just waiting for a fresh pulse of swell! Heaps of fun in the bigger stuff though, don't be afraid to push it!
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It’s a pretty awesome board for sure 🤙
I got a 6’0 seaside a few months ago and I love it, dropped down from a 6’6 puddle jumper because I was progressing and wanted a little more manoeuvrability. The seaside surprised me with how fast it was in comparison definitely a lot of fun and is helping me progress. I was lucky enough to pick up a Glazer off gumtree in perfect condition but I’m yet to test it out. Definitely keen to throw a seaside and beyond into the mix at some point in the near future.
Sounds very similar to the way I progressed throughj the boards too Brenton - although I went a little smaller on the HP at 5'11, really love it as a thruster! You're right though, the original Seaside is fast and the Seaside and Beyond takes all those amazing bits and chucks it in a mid-length. I've just tested out the Glazer too, although I wasn't so keen on it to be honest, but let me know how you get on!
@@StokedForTravel funnily enough the other board I was looking at was. Puddle jumper HP 6’4 but I missed out on it. Will definitely let you know what I think of the glazer once I’ve taken it out
@@StokedForTravel I took the glazer out on Friday for a sunset sesh in 3-4ft super clean conditions, I was not disappointed. I was surprised at how easy it paddled dropping a few litres, it got me thinking I probably could have gone smaller on my seaside, the big thing I noticed was the LFT not having that effortless down the line speed which the Helium tech has, but that could also be to do with the fin setup, I’ve been riding mostly quads and this is my first dedicated thruster board. Super responsive without being hard to control too which I was pumped about.
@@brentontaylor9191 stoked to hear it! I still haven't had that click in sessions with the Glazer and I agree it doesnt have that squirt of speed the Seaside has, certainly have to work it more. A combo of LFT and thruster setup.
@@brentontaylor9191 stoked you're enjoying it! Indeed both the fin setup and overall outline of the board is going to drop a lot of speed between the Seaside and Glazer. If you're looking for something in between then the Mashup is an epic option to add into the mix as well. It's my go to daily driver now!
And thanks for the great review
No worries, stoked you liked it!
I use my 7’4 as my step up even Kirra point on my back hand the thing is a dream. However agreed it’s a good all rounder. I’ve definitely found it likes something with a bit of push to really get it going. The seaside is definitely my all time favourite Rob board but I can’t get off 6’4 puddle jumper as I come back from a rotator cuff injury. I would of used my 6’0 seaside but I stupidly got rid of of it when I couldn’t surf lol.
Stoked to hear you’re loving the 7’4 Craig! Indeed it handles the big stuff with ease and definitely livens up in it too 😊
Having ridden this for the last month I’m definitely thinking I need to make room for a Seaside again 🤣
HP is another solid option too - you’ve got good taste in boards!
@@StokedForTravel oh sorry that’s what I’ve got is the PJ HP it’s brilliant gets super of control in cyclone swells. I have a habit of seeing how far will it go the PJHP definitely stops at head high lol.
I love my Firewire’s, I’ve been through way to many this shoulder definitely slowed me down though
@Craig Phillips I find it paddles like a demon. It paddles Better then the short one. My decks still in great shape they really have improved the LFT. I have seen a couple of helium beyond’s around so maybe they will do a release of helium ones.
Took it out in hollow 4-5ft hawaiian and it felt so dang good
It almost gets better the bigger the surf, right? What size you riding?
@@StokedForTravel 100%! I'm on a 6'8". It's my go-to board for everything now
@@suppaduppa5 me too and I dont feel like i really need any extra length on it. Are you running the Machado quads with it?
@@StokedForTravel yep! I tried some other quads that were bigger but the board got kinda stiff. Held really well when it got hollow though. I think I prefer the all around performance with the machados.
@@suppaduppa5 good to know. I've been surfing with the LZ Surf Quads but need to give the Machados a blast
Would be interested to know if you have ridden a CI Mid and could compare the two. I suspect the SSB is better in very small waves
CI mid was fun, but a very different style of board with the fin setup. More longboard in style. Personally the SSB is much more versatile and fun to ride! 🤙
@@StokedForTravel Holo, Great review! Thanks. I have a CI Mid and I really like it on the biggish well shaped ways yet to me under performs on the small or mashy waves. I mostly ride point breaks backhand (what happens when you live in the Byron Bay - East Coast of Australia and you're left footer) so I'm a bit worry about the quad set up (never ridden a quad, love twins but not as much backhand as I find it unpredictable and hard to control) Questions are: How you like ridding it backhand? and have you tried the Timber Tek. Muchas Gracias!
@@WorkoutAustralia hey Tomas, I've heard that about the CI Mids. I'm based in Byron and goofy footed too so I feel your pain! S&B is great on your backhand and heaps of drive with the quads. Alternatively check out the Cape Collective Midway - thruster setup and available from the guys at Boards In the Bay 🤙
Have you tried the Big Baron from JS ? If yes I'd love to know how they compare as I'm hesitating between the two. I'm looking for a board for good (but not too steep) chest high to overhead waves and considering the 6'8 in both models. Thanks!
Hey James, can’t say I’ve given the Big Baron a blast yet but it certainly looks interesting. I can say that’s the SS&B will certainly handle those conditions no worries and will have heaps of speed and control 🤙
Lol now the machado Sunday just came out, are you gonna do review? Comparing the SS&B?
Hahaha I know right? Hopefully get my hands on one soon for a review - although on first glance I think the SS&B will still be my preferred choice 🤙
Thanks for this video, this Seaside and Beyond looks incredible, but I am a bit worry about this LFT construction (in terms of durability), I want to travel by plane with my board and the board is quite expensive... I saw that Firewire makes this board in a TimberTek construction too, did anyone got the chance to try one?
Having ridden my S&B for a while now I can say it is still pretty strong - certainly more so than PU. It was more a comparison against the Helium Tech. Timbertek is pretty solid thought and a good choice, just be aware the sizing is slightly different on them
Hey man, great review ! Do you plan on reviewing the addvance at some point ? I'm really torn between several models, i've narrowed down the brand to firewire, i really like their design and build, but I can't decide which board would be best suited for me, I'm 1m86 - 87kg - i consider myself beginner/intermediate , I haven't surfed since corona and I bought a surfskate and I have been training a lot to get those carves, bottom turns, etc all figured out and I can't wait to try them out on a real surfboard. I've only ever ridden 7"6+ PU and foamies, usually 8", but I find them really hard to turn and I want to buy a board that I can evolve and improve with for the years to come, I was looking at 45-50L range and maybe 6"10-7"0 in size, do you have any particular recommendations ? Many thanks in advance !
Hey Mehdi, stoked you like the review! I hadn't really flagged the Addvance for a review, mainly as it's an older model and difficult to get hold of these days,
So, given your experience and build I definitely think something in the mid length range is a solid choice, but I'd potentially go slightly longer - maybe the 7'0 to 7'4 range.
You're going to have a huge boost in performance just moving from a foamie or larger PU board down that scale, but you also want to keep the paddle power and float to keep your wave count high so you can practice practice practice!
Honestly I think the Seaside and Beyond would be a really fun option, go for the 7'0 or 7'4 model though.
Let me know what you end up choosing and how you get on!
@@StokedForTravel amazing, thank you very much for the reply!
@@Flynt89 no worries!
@@StokedForTravel Just another question, I found a shop where I can rent some quality boards and there's two models that might suit me, the seaside and beyond but it's in 7"0, or the torq mod fun fish in 7"2, do you think both would be good ? The torq has almost 7L more, they really are both near my ideal volume of 48-50L atm so I need some help to decide :p
thanks a lot !
@@Flynt89 I'd say if you have the chance to rent before you buy then that's a great route to go. Even the 7'0 Seaside & Beyond would be a great example of what the board can do and what it feels like, so see if you feel like you like it and if you want the longer sizing. As for the Torq I haven't personally ridden any of their models, but my buddy loves his mid length from them. Have a chat with the shop - if they also stock the boards they might knock the rental price off you final purchase price 🤙
You prefer dominator 2.0 over seaside? Have you surfed sharpeye 2.5?
Hmmm that’s a tough one! As an all rounder the D2 is more versatile and you’ll be able to progress your turns more. But the Seaside is just heaps fun to surf!haha! Haven’t surfed the sharpeye 2.5 yet though...
i just hate how weak the LFT is and how yellow firewire boards go, i wont buy another one
I've not had an issue with my LFT boards so far, but they are certainly softer than the Helium build. Totally agree with you on the yellowing though, it's super annoying!
I dont get why Firewire persist with LFT, its absolute rubbish construction, I had a board made of LFT and it was a dogs breakfast after 5 surfs
I definitely prefer the Helium and would 100% prefer they rolled that out across the range in terms of durability. I've certainly noticed the LFT is so much easier to ding, even in comparison to standard PU boards
@@StokedForTravel mate I was filthy as. Waited for this thing to be custom made, cost me a fortune as it was one of Tomo’s shapes and it practically fell apart in 2 weeks. The ding repairer had heaps of trouble fixing it too. Once bitten twice shy.
@@marcusdavis2208 geez that's not ideal in the slightest hey? Sorry to hear that. I've had a few slight issues and Firewire have been pretty quick and easy to deal with in terms of customer service, might be worth pinging them an email as well
@stokedfortravel would you buy this over the HI Moe?
If you're looking for something that's got a bit of extra performance in it then yes. The Moe is great (review coming soon of it and Moe Mini) but the SS&B was certainly faster and handled bigger, punchier stuff a bit better - so it'll come down to the waves your surfing and skill level
@@StokedForTravel I bought the SSB 7'4 in Thunderbolt..........What an amazing board!