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No matter how many times I hear about it I am still impressed that Hannibal brought frikin ELEPHANTS over the Alps. One of those stories that people have been awed by for over 2000 years.
We need some Punic Wars movies. It's always Romans vs Barbarian tribes, but to see the Punic Wars would be amazing. So many prominent figures and battles. It's ripe for adaptation.
The fact that Hannibal roamed Italy for years after he crossed the Alps, occasionally skirmishing with Roman armies that were unable to beat him, is rather funny. They literally had a 'pest' wandering around their country and could do nothing about it.
@@DiegoDiaz-vm9xx Yeah I researched on him. Unfortunately, his own people(upper class patricians) out of envy, accused him of false charges, forcing him to leave public life. Unlucky Scipio, my regards to you, RIP.
@@DiegoDiaz-vm9xx At the same time, Scipio was not the last of the "great soul" type. Everyone who reads it please just for once stand in silence for 2 minutes and think about those great souls. Don't think about a single person in particular, cause they are countless and mostly unsung. I am positive that EVERYONE could easily think of someone whom they could call a great soul. Please do it for me.
Another great video! I'm always reminded of the conversation that Scipio shared with Hannibal when discussing the greatest military commanders of their time. Hannibal Placing himself only behind Alexander the Great and Pyhrrus of Epirus, then Scipio asking where Hannibal would have placed himself on that list had he won their final battle? Hannibal in response : I would have been the greatest. Such respect between two great commanders of armies.
Even though I always admired the Roman legionary system, and still to this day do, I am always impressed by how Hannibal was able to take a multinational army to victory on multiple occasions. This is especially true when one considers how Hannibal had to win with Gothic warriors, Iberian tribesmen, Libyan spearmen, Balearic slingers, Nubian Cavalry, and Carthaginian nobles, a polyglot force with various levels of discipline and combat experience.
There are some obscure theories, that Hannibal was being prepared for this war his whole life, and that learning the languages and cultures of the possible allies and mercenaries was part of his training.
@@KingsandGenerals Sure, theories. In reality, I believe, Hannibal was a very charismatic and strong leader, who was able to unite groups of people who were all abused by Rome in one way or another, or just pissed at Rome's arrogance and attitude. Rome was a machine that took what ever they wanted, whenever they wanted. Not that they could know it, but look at what happened in the 300 or so years after Hannibal... pretty much every single one of these "allies" were now conquered and subjugated by Rome... This was really the turning point. Had Hannibal won, or managed to just keep Rome in its place, the entire world would be different...
I'm pretty impressed and not just with the armies described in this video. But also with how informative this video was. Whoever made this video sure did their research. Good on them. My compliments to those who made this video a reality.
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@@lewistaylor2858 They're also very lucky that the Carthaginian Senate didn't give Hannibal the support they should have. Hannibal: "I'm fucking winning, send troops and money and siege equipment!". Senate: "Nah you got this"
@@RomanHistoryFan476AD other nation sue for peace or go down after 1 or 2 battle like that.. none can fight a 3rd battle, lose a huge chunk of its population, and keep carry on like the the Roman..
Hannibal was very fortunate yet unfortunate General. If he had the dictator powers of Julius Caeser, we would have seen a different history. Interesting video. Good job! 👍
@@CrazyNikel I don't understand why you would just plain insult him, but here is my take on the subject. Subjugating Gaulish tribes is a completely different thing than occupying Rome. What he is implying here is that if the administration in Carthage wasn't so passive on the subject of Hannibal in Italy, Hannibal most likely would have besieged and eventually entered Rome. Thus changing the course of history by a major way. He simply lacked the manpower, and Carthage was not helping.
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Great content as always guys. Since Carthage is sort of a pseudo-lost civilization I've always wondered what the standard Carthaginian soldier looked like or fought with. Turns out there's no such thing! Keep up the great work.
Ultimately, rome won this war through a battle of attrition. Despite the superior tactics of hannibal defeating the romans time and time again. Rome was nothing if not stubborn. It had a large network of alliances and allies that it can call upon to draw large amount of troops. If i remember correctly the battle at cannae which varro lost decisively was around 80, 000 men if i’m not mistaken. Hannibal sought to break up the network of alliances in italy but was not very successful. Most of rome’s allies were loyal and were hard to convince to join hannibal. The ones that do found themselves unable to fend off rome’s fabian tactics. Rome would avoid open battle with hannibal but always made sure its allies would know the consequences of their betrayal. If hannibal came to rescue them the romans would distract hannibal and then attacks its former allies once more when hannibal was not aware. Furthermore, the barcid family led most of the campaign against rome. Those in the Carthaginian senate did not participate in this campaign except for a failed invasion of syracuse. So, ultimately hannibal could win many open field battles but without his own government backing him up, it was a very hard war to win indeed.
@@madhurawat155 Scipio was the one who defeated Hannibal many times Most famous battle between Sciopio africanus is battle of zama in which he decisively defeated Hannibal Scipio is son in law of Lucius Paulus one of commander at Cannae who died in battle
Umar Ansari Much thanks for correcting me. I meant varro instead of varus. Guess teutoburg was still fresh in my mind. Also, the romans lost one of their best allies, the city of Capua. And rome was still able to bottle up hannibal in roman territory.
Actually it was around 80000 Romans deployed and around 40000 killed. What's noteworthy here is that this was due to Hannibal's surrounding tactics and was considered to be a massacre! This highlights an often times neglected part of ancient warfare that doesn't come across in films and video games: Soldiers from defeated armies retreated to fight another day, meaning if the nation they were fighting for didn't give up which Rome didn't. More importantly: They were still strong enough in siege warfare to hold the city of Rome and punish those cities that joined Hannibal once he left.
Awesome video again Kings and Generals. I love the detail and work put into these investigations. I am definitely looking forward to the Roman vs Hellenistic video to come - please include parts on the Seleucids and the Pontic Armies as well as Pyrrhus, Philip & Perseus! As an aside, I also think it might have been worth looking into what the army of Hamilcar was like, as opposed just to Hannibal, and what he and the Spartan Xanthippus had to do to reform the army in the wake of the Mercenary Rebellion just after the First Punic War. The Mercenary War was such a savage and bloody event, but always gets overlooked, and it also resulted in a massive overhaul, and especially important in the context of the video, implementation of a more uniform "Macedonian" or "Epirote" style, at the Nadir of Carthage's fortunes. As always, your work continues to be awesome sauce.
@@sacredband7089 they had to choose : Money or War. The majority of the senate was made of "businessmen" who's whole concern was how to make Carthage benefit, financially, rather than statesmen who sought glory. So you do the maths. A war with Rome had never benefited Carthage, it only made it lose men and money. They, (also hannibal) thought that the Romans would just demand peace and not insist on carthages surrender even after Cannae. They thought Romans were just stupid, and ignored them. Then Carthage nova and Zama happened. Imagine my shock.
I'm confused on how Hannibal not laying Siege to Rome was his fault? He didn't have the resources or manpower to effectively do that and his government didn't want to aid him. Africanus took advantage of this and attacked Carthage and later Hannibal. Honestly think if Hannibal had the resources he could have beaten Africanus and ended Rome.
@@TheScienceofnature By the point that they destroyed their city, they had had enough of the Carthaginians and I don’t blame them at all! They didn’t want another Hannibal to be born. So they salted the city, sold the men, women and children into slavery.
hanibal wnated to fight them into submission, fight them untill they would agree to his terms of peace, giving them thier concert territori back. but the romans Would never surennder and they fought a war of extermination.
This is by far my favorite channel. Thank u for all your videos. Good to see Carthage getting some recognition. And for those who don't know.... Yes, Carthage was in Africa.
I immediately thought of a mobile card collecting style game (but not card stat fighting, just that things are collected as cards) where various Carthaginian mercenaries are set up and put to battle in pvp games, before realizing this sort of exists and of course after a few hours the use of particular cards don't matter, just the amount and epicness rating. It's also an idle game that no one heard of after 2020
Rome made enemies everywhere, inside and outside their state. And they still buried most of them in the end, against the whole world. Truly a warrior culture, shining only when there was war and strife. Literally looking for it, for a constant battlefield to exist, that was their way of living. And without wars there would be no Rome as we know it. Carthage as mighty as it was, it's just another example on a long list that shows how war-like roman society was.
@Jason Blahino point they are making is Carthage's senate refused to send carthage's troops to aid Hannibal. And many attribute his loss to that fact. Roman senate by comparison gave Scipio as much as he asked for and more. What people who push the "carthage would've won had they given hannibal his troops" seem to forget is carthage was currently embroiled in a revolt and had they sent theit troops to hannibal, they would've fallen to their own internal battle shortly after. It wasn't just "lol carthago dumb", carthage was up to the neck in shit, and hannibal had already destroyed their economy with his elephant stunt, they could not afford more.
@@onehope6448 Actually the Carthaginians did try to reinforce Hannibal on several occasions. First in 215 BC, Hasdrubal was ordered to march across the Alps but he was defeated in Spain by the Scipio brothers. Second, in 207 BC, when Hasdrubal marched across the Alps and was defeated by Claudius Nero. And third, when Mago Barca sailed to northern Italy to try and reinforce his brother in 206 BC. The problem wasn't that Carthage didn't support the war, but rather that most of their generals besides Hannibal were crap and kept losing. Carthage invested huge resources into the war; they just kept losing everywhere Hannibal wasn't until in the end he had to leave Italy to defend the mother land.
@@thespanishinquisition4078 What "internal revolt" are you referring to? There was no internal revolt in Carthage itself during the Second Punic War. They had lots of revolts in Spain, but most of those were fairly small and easily suppressed.
Actually, it’s the other way around: Hannibal defeated Rome, soundly & repeatedly; consistently. . .for 15 YEARS😅 Carthage is who finally got involved, betrayed Hannibal & sealed their own fate.
Excellent video the graphics brought history to life. The Macedonians at Zama are generally dismissed as later inventions created or adopted by Livy. Libyan pikemen I think stem from a mistranslation of "longche" (sp?) mentioned in Polybius. Overall great content covered for a short vid 👍
The downfall of the Carthaginian military system was that Hannibal Barca's military successes were not accompanied by promotions of power or support by the Carthaginian government. Indeed, Hannibal was treated with some suspicion for his successes and was being undermined and thus the Carthaginian government sabotaged their own war effort. In contrast to the militarized Roman system, tactical brilliance often came with promotions and dignitas. While this would eventually lead to the downfall of the Republic and slowly eat away at the Empire through civil wars, this Roman meritocratic system allowed the Roman Empire to get as far as it did. There's a reason today we don't bother with massed mercenary armies. There's not much of an opportunity for a mercenary to rise above their station for the society their fighting for vs a national soldier fighting for their country.
I agree with you that a working meritocratic system enables and encourages people to rise above their station as you put it. But that doesn't mean mercenary systems are inferior. Late medieval/Renaissance armies were quite often composed of mercenaries, the 30 years war was fought with mercenaries and they fought ferociously (Landsknechts, swiss pikemen, english longbowmen were very professional mercenaries). National soldiers need to be ideologically supportive of the war and the mission. As long as this is the case, they will fight. This is more useful for defensive wars that are easier to justify. But getting a national soldier to fight wars for private interests? No thanks. Mercenaries fight when they are paid and they fight accordingly. It is a job, so the better the working condition, the better the motivation and options to get more for better performances will also enhance individual commitment. If payment is not coming, it is a disaster. Nowadays we tend to have proxy wars. We pay other countries to fight for us, which is a version of mercenary warfare and we also use actual mercenaries (i.e. blackwater) because the wars we currently fight are hard to justify ideologically, so national soldiers will fight reluctantly whereas mercenaries don't care. Yes, there are also national soldiers involved but many of them are on garrison duty and training missions for those who actually do the fighting and dying.
Dude, you're forgetting that precisely BECAUSE military achievements carried dignitas, Roman generals were almost always undermined by their rivals. People rarely remember that Scipio's final victory against Hannibal was achieved with an Italian army, NOT a Roman one. This is because you couldn't raise a Roman army without permission from the Senate, and the senate kept blocking him out of jealousy, so he had to go and ask his Italian allies for troops. Ultimately, Rome won the war because Scipio turned out to be an even greater general than Hannibal (he was not only brilliant in battle but he knew how to capitalise on his victories, something Hannibal never learned to do) and because the Carthaginean government turned out to be even more useless than the Roman government.
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Please, do one about Hannibal´s crossing of the Alps, as it is a great a feat as any battle. He is said to have used vinegar and fire to "dynamite" big rocks and find a way for his elephants in the mountains...
By the way, having elephants in an army were tremendoulsy troublesome and costly affair. Each elephant have to go for about 20 km every day otherwise it quiqly gains arthronosos. And each Elephants eats for about 300!! kilograms of food a day. Imagine how much feed you need to carry with you, if you have for exampe 30 of them in your army.
Now imagine, Seleucus had 500...of those larger Indian elephants. And he had 400 present at Ipsus😅...which he marched all the way from India to Modern day Turkey.
The English have acquired in the last 47 years, a rather nasty habit of Hannibal's crossing of Pyranese Mountains. Which Western European second largest range. Now when add his crossing, the Alpha, it his Achievements much remarkable. There is nothing like receiving the full facts of protagonist of Rome.
O can not describe how irratating it that dumb down Google autocorrect can interfer with simple communication. And when one writes about the displeasure abruptly stops with the interference.
Hi guys! You are keeping doing an amazing work ;) Can I ask you what softwares you use to make your 2D animations, for example during battles? Indeed I'm thinking about an animated history channel for the French speaking audience, but so far I'm a noob in video making. Thanks in advance guys.
6:51 that's an interesting archery technique. What do you call that? A behind the back double reverse forearm draw. JK in good fun ;) Thanks for the upload. -Jake
It is ALWAYS fascinating to see warfare develooments in these ages, so many types of units, formations, tactics. No wonder why military strategists still study Hannibal/punic wars.
When I was 8 year's old, I learned to ride bareback on a Mustang cutting Horse, they used these to cut cattle out of herds, their speed, turn and quickness of the turn was controlled by your heels, to slow it down or stop it you pulled the mane with one hand, I later rode a Arabian Stallion, the little Mustang could turn much faster and having your hands free is a definite Advantage for Ancient Warfare compared to the full sized Horses, I could see why the Indians preferred these smaller Mustangs to the bigger European one's! Although you didn't have a saddle or stirrups, Control of these little Mustangs was faster as you and the Horse knew each other, like you both had one mind. The Arabian was faster but the Mustang could turn twice as fast, an advantage shooting a Bow or throwing light javlins as you didn't need your hands to turn away and reload for the next run. A similar type of light horse as you talked about. Fun Times!
I would challenge the idea of the Libo-Phoenician spearmen as either pikemen or clipeus carrying hoplites due to the nature of their use. The were used to rapidly close the flanks in the most devastating double envelopment maneuver in military history, something that would be considerably easier if they were armed more like thyreophoroi (a center grip shield, mail or linothorax, and shorter melee spear) which would allow for more rapid movement and greater battlefield flexibility. This would also make equipping Roman gear make a lot more sense, replacing their native armor with Roman hamata, and their native center-grip shields with Roman scutum.
nice video my kings :D from what i saw, hannibal has upper handed in early war since his army consisted with a lot of mix soldier from many region....i think hannibal should seek a fast war againts roman..... roman, on the other hand, has advantage in late war since (in my analysis) they often learn their enemy tactic and strategy, and applied it into their own style......and they really really strong at late war.....slow but steady, the roman starting to understand their enemy tactic and how to counter them.....the ultimate result of this, we can saw at the battle of Zama where scipio applied the strategy of how to counter every each type of hannibal army (including elephant) and defeat hannibal..... I'm looking foward to see your next video.... ciaooooo :D
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I just watched on Netflix the Outlaw king, covering the Battle of Loudoun Hill, will you cover it sometime? seems similar to Agincourt but without the superior Long bowman advantage.
Kings and Generals now to get those lazy asses at Total war to start creating fully destructible maps, digging tunnels...etc. They can barely make a believable shield wall
Technically roman empire are ended when the empire split or when the western part (which inherit the city of rome) are colapse.. it would be Augustus to Romullus.. The eastern part are become byzantine and they are helenized roman (not true roman)
@@toasterman5412 Byzantine empire was mainly hellenic..Almost every emperor after Justinian was greek. 80% of ERE's population was hellenistic and the common language was greek Also,The “Byzantines” saw themselves as the direct continuation of the classical Latin Roman Empire, so they called themselves “Rhomaioi” , "Romoioi"(aparrently many still call themselves like that to this day) . They called their empire the "Βασιλεία τῶν Ῥωμαίων"= Basilea Ton Rhomaion (Speak “Vasilea ton Rhomäi), in English, the “Empire of the Romans” It was ruled by the Βασιλεύς και Αυτοκράτορας τῶν Ῥωμαίων (Vasileus kai Autokrator Ton Rhomaion) = Emperor and Self-Ruler of the Romans.They were neither 100% greek neither 100% roman,they were hellenic.Thats why if you type "greek empires" in google you ll find Byzantine empire there
@@arthasmenethil7208 , bulshits. All emperators was from Armenia, Thracia or Armenia. Only helenic is a church and diplomatic lenguage. Greek is a fake termin from 19 cen. But this empire call thamself only roman empire.
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Kings and Generals I love increasing my knowledge about my ancestor’s military tactics and how they adapt enemy tactics into the Roman war machine. Thank you.
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No matter how many times I hear about it I am still impressed that Hannibal brought frikin ELEPHANTS over the Alps. One of those stories that people have been awed by for over 2000 years.
that was exhausting for me .. but worth it😉💪💪
@@hannibalbarca8411 hahaha you later lost by your own tactics
You were a good general but Finnaly lost
@@umaransari9765
that's history ... day for you an other against you ..😔
@@umaransari9765 to be fair Hannibal only lost after nearly two decades of fighting, and losing his best army over time due to fighting.
@@hannibalbarca8411 yeah you were one of my favourite general in history
And 2nd favourite general in BC
We need some Punic Wars movies. It's always Romans vs Barbarian tribes, but to see the Punic Wars would be amazing. So many prominent figures and battles. It's ripe for adaptation.
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There is a movie about it called Hannibal Barca i belive, it's sort of a documentary/movie sort of thing iirc, it's pretty good.
@@MrBigCookieCrumble Are you thinking of _Hannibal - Rome's Worst Nightmare?_
@SnakeFace too true.
@Vitruvius Antarchius that is irrelevent to hollywood
The fact that Hannibal roamed Italy for years after he crossed the Alps, occasionally skirmishing with Roman armies that were unable to beat him, is rather funny. They literally had a 'pest' wandering around their country and could do nothing about it.
I would call it pre-caesarian period.
Not a single roman before him was
as good as him.
@@DiegoDiaz-vm9xx Yeah I researched on him. Unfortunately, his own people(upper class patricians) out of envy, accused him of false charges, forcing him to leave public life. Unlucky Scipio, my regards to you, RIP.
@@DiegoDiaz-vm9xx I think Oedenatus and Belisarius could pretend to that title too
@@DiegoDiaz-vm9xx You reasoned yourself that why Caesar is number1.
@@DiegoDiaz-vm9xx At the same time, Scipio was not the last of the "great soul" type. Everyone who reads it please just for once stand in silence for 2 minutes and think about those great souls.
Don't think about a single person in
particular, cause they are countless and mostly unsung.
I am positive that EVERYONE could
easily think of someone whom they could call a great soul. Please do it for me.
Another great video! I'm always reminded of the conversation that Scipio shared with Hannibal when discussing the greatest military commanders of their time. Hannibal Placing himself only behind Alexander the Great and Pyhrrus of Epirus, then Scipio asking where Hannibal would have placed himself on that list had he won their final battle? Hannibal in response : I would have been the greatest. Such respect between two great commanders of armies.
Thanks for watching!
THE COLLEGE CASUAL This story is lost likely made up.
Even though I always admired the Roman legionary system, and still to this day do, I am always impressed by how Hannibal was able to take a multinational army to victory on multiple occasions. This is especially true when one considers how Hannibal had to win with Gothic warriors, Iberian tribesmen, Libyan spearmen, Balearic slingers, Nubian Cavalry, and Carthaginian nobles, a polyglot force with various levels of discipline and combat experience.
There are some obscure theories, that Hannibal was being prepared for this war his whole life, and that learning the languages and cultures of the possible allies and mercenaries was part of his training.
-Nubian- *Numidian Cavalry :)
Matthew Kuchinski Hannibal used Gallic not Gothic warriors.
@@jacquesstrapp3219 Thank you for correcting me. I did mean Gallic warriors, but I seemed to have a computer that self-corrected itself.
@@KingsandGenerals Sure, theories. In reality, I believe, Hannibal was a very charismatic and strong leader, who was able to unite groups of people who were all abused by Rome in one way or another, or just pissed at Rome's arrogance and attitude. Rome was a machine that took what ever they wanted, whenever they wanted. Not that they could know it, but look at what happened in the 300 or so years after Hannibal... pretty much every single one of these "allies" were now conquered and subjugated by Rome... This was really the turning point. Had Hannibal won, or managed to just keep Rome in its place, the entire world would be different...
*The African Forest Elephant is still about, but the North African kind is extinct.
How do you have the Sparta icon on your name can u share it mr
@@pinkietard669 no becoming a donater of kings and generals via youtube
@@pinkietard669
It's an ancient Greek helmet, not a "Saprta Icon"!!!
Rather, there is no evidence "North African" elephants had existed to begin with.
ecpgieicg yeah there was i am north african they found alot of bones
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Finally "Rome vs Carthage" ,I was waiting for your analysis of the difference between their armies , i really like it, Great job.
Thank you for watching :)
I'm pretty impressed and not just with the armies described in this video. But also with how informative this video was. Whoever made this video sure did their research. Good on them. My compliments to those who made this video a reality.
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They really learn from their mistakes ..
@@oldrabbit8290 A lot of nations did not though.
@@oldrabbit8290 no one else would have learnt, recovered and avenged though... only the Romans
@@lewistaylor2858 They're also very lucky that the Carthaginian Senate didn't give Hannibal the support they should have. Hannibal: "I'm fucking winning, send troops and money and siege equipment!". Senate: "Nah you got this"
@@worsethanjoerogan8061 #Hannibalwpuldhavewon
@@RomanHistoryFan476AD other nation sue for peace or go down after 1 or 2 battle like that.. none can fight a 3rd battle, lose a huge chunk of its population, and keep carry on like the the Roman..
Now this is a great episode gotta love the comparison and differences between two of the worlds most renown empires.
Thanks for watching!
Hannibal was very fortunate yet unfortunate General. If he had the dictator powers of Julius Caeser, we would have seen a different history. Interesting video. Good job! 👍
Thank you for watching :)
@@CrazyNikel I don't understand why you would just plain insult him, but here is my take on the subject. Subjugating Gaulish tribes is a completely different thing than occupying Rome. What he is implying here is that if the administration in Carthage wasn't so passive on the subject of Hannibal in Italy, Hannibal most likely would have besieged and eventually entered Rome. Thus changing the course of history by a major way.
He simply lacked the manpower, and Carthage was not helping.
@@tennoheika94 stfu you don't know shit
@@alliesstartedww1308 What an intelligent take on the discussion, please, show us more what your brain cells are capable of!
@@tennoheika94 clearly something like u whom is brain dead can't do
Who else thinks that Rome used console commands after Cannae?
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integrate CRT
@@SaintPanzerker manpower 100.000
*Consul commands
THAT'S SUPER GOOD
They were the Rome 2 Legendary AI. You destroy one full stack, two turns later they send another
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I love how you use Rome Total War eastern intro in beginning for Carthage ;)
Small details like these matter and make the video that much better ;)
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Great content as always guys. Since Carthage is sort of a pseudo-lost civilization I've always wondered what the standard Carthaginian soldier looked like or fought with. Turns out there's no such thing! Keep up the great work.
Thanks for watching! There will be a separate series on Carthage down the line.
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Ultimately, rome won this war through a battle of attrition. Despite the superior tactics of hannibal defeating the romans time and time again. Rome was nothing if not stubborn. It had a large network of alliances and allies that it can call upon to draw large amount of troops.
If i remember correctly the battle at cannae which varro lost decisively was around 80, 000 men if i’m not mistaken.
Hannibal sought to break up the network of alliances in italy but was not very successful. Most of rome’s allies were loyal and were hard to convince to join hannibal.
The ones that do found themselves unable to fend off rome’s fabian tactics. Rome would avoid open battle with hannibal but always made sure its allies would know the consequences of their betrayal.
If hannibal came to rescue them the romans would distract hannibal and then attacks its former allies once more when hannibal was not aware.
Furthermore, the barcid family led most of the campaign against rome. Those in the Carthaginian senate did not participate in this campaign except for a failed invasion of syracuse.
So, ultimately hannibal could win many open field battles but without his own government backing him up, it was a very hard war to win indeed.
@@madhurawat155 no you are wrong and he was right
He just made spelling mistake it was Gaius Varro who was main Commander of Roman army at Cannae
@@madhurawat155 Scipio was the one who defeated Hannibal many times
Most famous battle between Sciopio africanus is battle of zama in which he decisively defeated Hannibal
Scipio is son in law of Lucius Paulus one of commander at Cannae who died in battle
Umar Ansari Much thanks for correcting me. I meant varro instead of varus. Guess teutoburg was still fresh in my mind.
Also, the romans lost one of their best allies, the city of Capua. And rome was still able to bottle up hannibal in roman territory.
Nop, Hannibal just needed more resources and soldiers to destroy Rome, which the politicians of Carthago did not give him.
Actually it was around 80000 Romans deployed and around 40000 killed. What's noteworthy here is that this was due to Hannibal's surrounding tactics and was considered to be a massacre!
This highlights an often times neglected part of ancient warfare that doesn't come across in films and video games: Soldiers from defeated armies retreated to fight another day, meaning if the nation they were fighting for didn't give up which Rome didn't. More importantly: They were still strong enough in siege warfare to hold the city of Rome and punish those cities that joined Hannibal once he left.
A documentary about the punic wars would be amazing!
I love having easy access this kind of information this channel is great
This was beautiful to watch. thx K&G
Thank you for watching :)
Awesome video again Kings and Generals. I love the detail and work put into these investigations. I am definitely looking forward to the Roman vs Hellenistic video to come - please include parts on the Seleucids and the Pontic Armies as well as Pyrrhus, Philip & Perseus!
As an aside, I also think it might have been worth looking into what the army of Hamilcar was like, as opposed just to Hannibal, and what he and the Spartan Xanthippus had to do to reform the army in the wake of the Mercenary Rebellion just after the First Punic War. The Mercenary War was such a savage and bloody event, but always gets overlooked, and it also resulted in a massive overhaul, and especially important in the context of the video, implementation of a more uniform "Macedonian" or "Epirote" style, at the Nadir of Carthage's fortunes.
As always, your work continues to be awesome sauce.
The production quality that you guys make is unbelievably outstanding!
In the future will you guys cover the topic of world wars?
Thanks! Yes, we are planning to!
Was never glued this hard to my screen before.
You shall never be forgotten Hannibal my son. (am still salty about Carthaginian defeat after more than 2000 years)
Yeah me too inm salty with carthage incompetence to help hannibal
@@sacredband7089 they had to choose : Money or War. The majority of the senate was made of "businessmen" who's whole concern was how to make Carthage benefit, financially, rather than statesmen who sought glory. So you do the maths. A war with Rome had never benefited Carthage, it only made it lose men and money. They, (also hannibal) thought that the Romans would just demand peace and not insist on carthages surrender even after Cannae. They thought Romans were just stupid, and ignored them. Then Carthage nova and Zama happened. Imagine my shock.
LMAOOO
*S A L T*
As salty as Carthage itself, I presume
I heard of you. You are the most important god in Carthage
Your videos are grear. More clear that a lot of history books that dont explain well this kind of things.
7:07 , Gotta love that elephant sound effect from age of empires II , oh the memories...
Great video as always!
Thanks for watching :-)
Wololololo
I'm having to do History homework covering this. Thanks for the insightful and entertaining video!
just bought that hoodie, it looks so clean. super glad you guys made it!
Thanks, hannibal and carthage are really interessting topics for me. That you show us from where are the soldiers is great too. ;)
I'm confused on how Hannibal not laying Siege to Rome was his fault? He didn't have the resources or manpower to effectively do that and his government didn't want to aid him. Africanus took advantage of this and attacked Carthage and later Hannibal. Honestly think if Hannibal had the resources he could have beaten Africanus and ended Rome.
@@TheScienceofnature By the point that they destroyed their city, they had had enough of the Carthaginians and I don’t blame them at all! They didn’t want another Hannibal to be born. So they salted the city, sold the men, women and children into slavery.
hanibal wnated to fight them into submission, fight them untill they would agree to his terms of peace, giving them thier concert territori back. but the romans Would never surennder and they fought a war of extermination.
It was meant to not happen the world would be different we would not been born or born a different person if thier is a spiritual life
@@Gambetdz there is no "meant to". Life is not predestined
Agree. 2nd punic war were basically hannibal vs rome not carthage vs rome.
This is by far my favorite channel. Thank u for all your videos. Good to see Carthage getting some recognition. And for those who don't know.... Yes, Carthage was in Africa.
Superb video on a really exciting subject, the Punic wars are fascinating! Great mix of animations/maps!👍👍
Thank you for watching :)
As always thank you for this phenominal content
Appreciate the feedback :-)
Another perfect video i just love learning more about the Punic wars.
Always enjoy this channel
Thanks!
Very informative video.
thx for the vid and keep up the great work!
We will, thank you!
Super video as always. And still waiting for the Mapuches/southamerican natives. And still recommending your videos to my friends !!
Great video Thanks!
Thank you for watching!
Roman soldier 1: uhh maximus, is the emperor planning to held a circus
today?
Soldier 2: no, why?
Damn I wish your videos were more frequent...they're great.
Thank you! Hopefully, down the line.
A beauty as always
Thank you!
Great video
Oh yeah!!! Can't wait for that! Keep up the good work and make it awsome!!!!
Thank you for watching :)
Kings and Generals, u got that right!
很强，又学习到了新的历史细节，希望节目越办越好！
yes excellent, love this series and the whole channel
Great video!!!
I immediately thought of a mobile card collecting style game (but not card stat fighting, just that things are collected as cards) where various Carthaginian mercenaries are set up and put to battle in pvp games, before realizing this sort of exists and of course after a few hours the use of particular cards don't matter, just the amount and epicness rating. It's also an idle game that no one heard of after 2020
Hyped for next vid
This was a golden vid man
Thank you for watching :)
Could you cover some more ancient armies like :
India
Bulgararia
Cilicia
@@KingsandGenerals real fan tho
Always love this channel :)
We love you too.
Excellent video. Can't wait for your legion vs phalanx cover. :)
Imagine how terrifying it must have been to fight against an ELEPHANT if you had never seen one and didn't know what they were
Rome made enemies everywhere, inside and outside their state. And they still buried most of them in the end, against the whole world. Truly a warrior culture, shining only when there was war and strife. Literally looking for it, for a constant battlefield to exist, that was their way of living. And without wars there would be no Rome as we know it. Carthage as mighty as it was, it's just another example on a long list that shows how war-like roman society was.
Amazing video.cant wait for phalanx vs legion.keep up the good work
I can't wait for the next video! :D
exceptional examination.
Hannibal vs. Rome - Rome Wins
But...
If it was Carthage vs. Rome - Well. I'll leave it up to you...
@Jason Blahino carthage didn't want to help hannibal
@Jason Blahino point they are making is Carthage's senate refused to send carthage's troops to aid Hannibal. And many attribute his loss to that fact. Roman senate by comparison gave Scipio as much as he asked for and more.
What people who push the "carthage would've won had they given hannibal his troops" seem to forget is carthage was currently embroiled in a revolt and had they sent theit troops to hannibal, they would've fallen to their own internal battle shortly after. It wasn't just "lol carthago dumb", carthage was up to the neck in shit, and hannibal had already destroyed their economy with his elephant stunt, they could not afford more.
@@onehope6448 Actually the Carthaginians did try to reinforce Hannibal on several occasions. First in 215 BC, Hasdrubal was ordered to march across the Alps but he was defeated in Spain by the Scipio brothers. Second, in 207 BC, when Hasdrubal marched across the Alps and was defeated by Claudius Nero. And third, when Mago Barca sailed to northern Italy to try and reinforce his brother in 206 BC.
The problem wasn't that Carthage didn't support the war, but rather that most of their generals besides Hannibal were crap and kept losing. Carthage invested huge resources into the war; they just kept losing everywhere Hannibal wasn't until in the end he had to leave Italy to defend the mother land.
@@thespanishinquisition4078 What "internal revolt" are you referring to? There was no internal revolt in Carthage itself during the Second Punic War. They had lots of revolts in Spain, but most of those were fairly small and easily suppressed.
Actually, it’s the other way around:
Hannibal defeated Rome, soundly & repeatedly; consistently. . .for 15 YEARS😅 Carthage is who finally got involved, betrayed Hannibal & sealed their own fate.
finally.please do next; Alaric, spartucus, boutica, arminius and atila the hun.
Good work :)
Well done
Thank you!
Kings and Generals 👍
Great job
How come there is no video of Spartacus?
We'll work on that
I was hoping that you might consider about uploading videos on early modern warfare.
We will
@@KingsandGenerals Mostly strategies and tactics.
Excellent video the graphics brought history to life. The Macedonians at Zama are generally dismissed as later inventions created or adopted by Livy. Libyan pikemen I think stem from a mistranslation of "longche" (sp?) mentioned in Polybius. Overall great content covered for a short vid 👍
The downfall of the Carthaginian military system was that Hannibal Barca's military successes were not accompanied by promotions of power or support by the Carthaginian government. Indeed, Hannibal was treated with some suspicion for his successes and was being undermined and thus the Carthaginian government sabotaged their own war effort. In contrast to the militarized Roman system, tactical brilliance often came with promotions and dignitas. While this would eventually lead to the downfall of the Republic and slowly eat away at the Empire through civil wars, this Roman meritocratic system allowed the Roman Empire to get as far as it did. There's a reason today we don't bother with massed mercenary armies. There's not much of an opportunity for a mercenary to rise above their station for the society their fighting for vs a national soldier fighting for their country.
I agree with you that a working meritocratic system enables and encourages people to rise above their station as you put it. But that doesn't mean mercenary systems are inferior. Late medieval/Renaissance armies were quite often composed of mercenaries, the 30 years war was fought with mercenaries and they fought ferociously (Landsknechts, swiss pikemen, english longbowmen were very professional mercenaries).
National soldiers need to be ideologically supportive of the war and the mission. As long as this is the case, they will fight. This is more useful for defensive wars that are easier to justify. But getting a national soldier to fight wars for private interests? No thanks.
Mercenaries fight when they are paid and they fight accordingly. It is a job, so the better the working condition, the better the motivation and options to get more for better performances will also enhance individual commitment. If payment is not coming, it is a disaster.
Nowadays we tend to have proxy wars. We pay other countries to fight for us, which is a version of mercenary warfare and we also use actual mercenaries (i.e. blackwater) because the wars we currently fight are hard to justify ideologically, so national soldiers will fight reluctantly whereas mercenaries don't care. Yes, there are also national soldiers involved but many of them are on garrison duty and training missions for those who actually do the fighting and dying.
Dude, you're forgetting that precisely BECAUSE military achievements carried dignitas, Roman generals were almost always undermined by their rivals. People rarely remember that Scipio's final victory against Hannibal was achieved with an Italian army, NOT a Roman one. This is because you couldn't raise a Roman army without permission from the Senate, and the senate kept blocking him out of jealousy, so he had to go and ask his Italian allies for troops.
Ultimately, Rome won the war because Scipio turned out to be an even greater general than Hannibal (he was not only brilliant in battle but he knew how to capitalise on his victories, something Hannibal never learned to do) and because the Carthaginean government turned out to be even more useless than the Roman government.
@@Gabriel-ip6me “Rome won the war because Scipio turned out to be an even greater general than Hannibal…”
*WAIT - WHAT?!?*
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You win RUclips forever. No one will ever top this. . .this “comment”.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Always love videos about Hannibal Barca. As he would say: I will either find a way, or make one. Děkuji :)
Thanks for watching :-)
This intro is exactly where I’m trying to go in my dreams.
Anyone else think these videos are comfy af?
I do. :-)
Please, do one about Hannibal´s crossing of the Alps, as it is a great a feat as any battle. He is said to have used vinegar and fire to "dynamite" big rocks and find a way for his elephants in the mountains...
Love this kind if history thank you.
By the way, having elephants in an army were tremendoulsy troublesome and costly affair. Each elephant have to go for about 20 km every day otherwise it quiqly gains arthronosos. And each Elephants eats for about 300!! kilograms of food a day. Imagine how much feed you need to carry with you, if you have for exampe 30 of them in your army.
Yea not worth it i rather much rely on my warriors then yet again we have proof it didn't work..
That makes hannibals journey all the more amazing
Hannibal, the essence of "it's the journey, not the destination"
Indians had thousands of elephants in their army
Now imagine, Seleucus had 500...of those larger Indian elephants. And he had 400 present at Ipsus😅...which he marched all the way from India to Modern day Turkey.
Good quality video as always! But you need a better microphone ;)
Do you guys animate all of this, or are these from a game engine? Really looks beautiful!
Most of the animations are ours, some from a game engine. Thank you!
The English have acquired in the last 47 years, a rather nasty habit of Hannibal's crossing of Pyranese Mountains. Which Western European second largest range. Now when add his crossing, the Alpha, it his
Achievements much remarkable. There is nothing like receiving the full facts of protagonist of Rome.
O can not describe how irratating it that dumb down Google autocorrect can interfer with simple communication. And when one writes about the displeasure abruptly stops with the interference.
Nice your channel
Hi guys! You are keeping doing an amazing work ;) Can I ask you what softwares you use to make your 2D animations, for example during battles? Indeed I'm thinking about an animated history channel for the French speaking audience, but so far I'm a noob in video making. Thanks in advance guys.
Thank you! We use After Effects, Illustrator, Premiere and Photoshop. Best of luck!
@@KingsandGenerals thanks a lot!
Please make a video on how a legate or general would recieve and send messages during battle to keep a view on his army.
8:19 this looks awesome! Is it possible to recreate a battle with this cgi? That would be like, awesome awesome.... plus another awesome! Lol🤞🙉🙊🙈
6:51 that's an interesting archery technique. What do you call that? A behind the back double reverse forearm draw.
JK in good fun ;)
Thanks for the upload.
-Jake
Shhhh. :p
It is ALWAYS fascinating to see warfare develooments in these ages, so many types of units, formations, tactics. No wonder why military strategists still study Hannibal/punic wars.
When I was 8 year's old, I learned to ride bareback on a Mustang cutting Horse, they used these to cut cattle out of herds, their speed, turn and quickness of the turn was controlled by your heels, to slow it down or stop it you pulled the mane with one hand, I later rode a Arabian Stallion, the little Mustang could turn much faster and having your hands free is a definite Advantage for Ancient Warfare compared to the full sized Horses, I could see why the Indians preferred these smaller Mustangs to the bigger European one's! Although you didn't have a saddle or stirrups, Control of these little Mustangs was faster as you and the Horse knew each other, like you both had one mind. The Arabian was faster but the Mustang could turn twice as fast, an advantage shooting a Bow or throwing light javlins as you didn't need your hands to turn away and reload for the next run. A similar type of light horse as you talked about. Fun Times!
Hello is there an estimate when will we get the battle of vienna would be really cool thanks
2019
I would challenge the idea of the Libo-Phoenician spearmen as either pikemen or clipeus carrying hoplites due to the nature of their use. The were used to rapidly close the flanks in the most devastating double envelopment maneuver in military history, something that would be considerably easier if they were armed more like thyreophoroi (a center grip shield, mail or linothorax, and shorter melee spear) which would allow for more rapid movement and greater battlefield flexibility. This would also make equipping Roman gear make a lot more sense, replacing their native armor with Roman hamata, and their native center-grip shields with Roman scutum.
Please do battle of alicia from ceaser's campaign in gaul
Love the Rome 2 reference at 6:06
nice video my kings :D
from what i saw, hannibal has upper handed in early war since his army consisted with a lot of mix soldier from many region....i think hannibal should seek a fast war againts roman.....
roman, on the other hand, has advantage in late war since (in my analysis) they often learn their enemy tactic and strategy, and applied it into their own style......and they really really strong at late war.....slow but steady, the roman starting to understand their enemy tactic and how to counter them.....the ultimate result of this, we can saw at the battle of Zama where scipio applied the strategy of how to counter every each type of hannibal army (including elephant) and defeat hannibal.....
I'm looking foward to see your next video....
ciaooooo :D
When I get a new Kings a Generals video: 80's movie music kicks in, then theres a sick montage of my clicks and page loads all culminating in fireworks, fist bumps and smiles... then the video plays...
Thank you very much, that makes us happy :-)
I just watched on Netflix the Outlaw king, covering the Battle of Loudoun Hill, will you cover it sometime? seems similar to Agincourt but without the superior Long bowman advantage.
Hey! Yes, Scottish Wars of Independence are on our list - will happen!
Kings and Generals now to get those lazy asses at Total war to start creating fully destructible maps, digging tunnels...etc. They can barely make a believable shield wall
Hey, if you guys haven't yet, can you do the Vietnam war? I watched Simple History's video on it but I want to see the actual battle statistics
Make more Videos about the Achaeminids and sassanids please
Thank you
"...that Roman mindset was effectively exploited by Hannibal..." ahhh, the old maxim of "attack the enemy strategy". Nice.
9:12 Does anyone know what symbolizes the statue of a woman with a castle on her head? Or maybe what is the title of the painting that is shown?
From Augustus to Constantine Palaiologos XI.
R.i.p. Roman Empire.
@@toasterman5412 yep. The Roman empire begins with Augustus.
(Formally a principate but practically an empire)
First an empire than a republic than again an empire
Technically roman empire are ended when the empire split or when the western part (which inherit the city of rome) are colapse.. it would be Augustus to Romullus..
The eastern part are become byzantine and they are helenized roman (not true roman)
@@toasterman5412 Byzantine empire was mainly hellenic..Almost every emperor after Justinian was greek. 80% of ERE's population was hellenistic and the common language was greek
Also,The “Byzantines” saw themselves as the direct continuation of the classical Latin Roman Empire, so they called themselves “Rhomaioi” , "Romoioi"(aparrently many still call themselves like that to this day) . They called their empire the "Βασιλεία τῶν Ῥωμαίων"= Basilea Ton Rhomaion (Speak “Vasilea ton Rhomäi), in English, the “Empire of the Romans”
It was ruled by the Βασιλεύς και Αυτοκράτορας τῶν Ῥωμαίων (Vasileus kai Autokrator Ton Rhomaion) = Emperor and Self-Ruler of the Romans.They were neither 100% greek neither 100% roman,they were hellenic.Thats why if you type "greek empires" in google you ll find Byzantine empire there
@@arthasmenethil7208 , bulshits. All emperators was from Armenia, Thracia or Armenia. Only helenic is a church and diplomatic lenguage. Greek is a fake termin from 19 cen. But this empire call thamself only roman empire.
OH YES I DIDN’T EVEN KNOW I WANTED THIS VIDEO!
P.s. take notes Total War Arena
Good :-)
Punic wars are my favourite, Two great powers clashing each other