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Will you do a video about the Soviet Japanese border conflict
Do you watch oversimplefied im wondering why his not uploading😔😔😔
@@JWP51015 thank you for responding men
What is Punic wars
Make a video : what is Punic wars
"Roman conscript spam is bullshit and needs to be nerfed" - Hannibal, probably.
Made me laugh out loud. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nazi Germany Agrees as well.
“I knew I should’ve gotten some of those Germanic berserkers, those guys are almost unstoppable”
-Hannibal definitely
Too many eastern spearman
@@jayy7842 Nazi Germany rage quit due to US pay to win
It infuriates me how Hannibal was treated by his own people. During and after the war, he was given almost no help.
IT infuriates me more that this happens far too often in history.
@@THATotherGUY415 Ave Caesar!
@@THATotherGUY415 From the top of my head, Admiral Yi and Khalid Ibn-al walid all fit the chategory. Some people have too much pride and would rather everyone fail than them not succeeding
@@THATotherGUY415 Napoleon's Marshall's were notorious for it.
Mostly cause of the pro peace faction being in control
As a Tunisian, it really hurts to watch how Hannibal's early outstanding victories were in vain and how the romans managed to flip the table. But great video, as usual!
As a tunisian can relate to that
Also i remeber when we studied about it everyone in middle school hated rome like they were literal devils
No offense but aren't modern day Tunisians mostly Berbers and Arabs? How are they related to ancient Carthagenians, who were Phoenicians?
@@billaros1338 the carthaginians were a mix of phoenicians and berbers, arabs make about 3℅ of tunisians which means iran have more at arabs than us
In Italy punic wars are not neglected, nor the capability of Hannibal. In roman culture the stronger was your enemy, more important was victory, so Hannibal is always give respect here during.
They were Canaanites relocated to the northwest of Africa to get out of the crossroads of warring
18:26 Ok this is my favorite part of the whole video this image right here deserves to be part of history itself
This is probably the only time a Sponsorship actually made me want to get the game
Great video!
I love Cartagean history of almost, defeating Rome. And Anibal legendary genious.
hannibal didn't need a description to his name such as " Alexander the great "
only HANNIBAL BARCA puts his enemies in to fear !
IKR
@Thxr
مدامنا حنا بيدينا منعرفوش قيمة تاريخنا صاحبي متلومش على غيرك
I like that "are you entertained" from the gladiator
oh you better believe thats a crucifixion
Kids: YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
18:28 that feeling when you’re subscribed to every channel and then some.
The Scipio who commanded the siege of Carthage is victorious, but after he saw the Carthage in person, he wept as his army entered the gates. The senate ordered it to be destroyed, and he reluctantly followed, and wept as he saw the destruction that Rome delivered to Carthage. He also thought about how would Romans react if other nation did the same to his city.
very nice video, i used to live in Carthage for a few years a long time ago. Studied this at school there and was a nice refresher to watch now. Thanks for putting in so much effort into this video.
Every new armchair historian video it looks like we’re getting closer to an armchair historian game
26:43 that song brings history and made this video like a movie
The sound design of this video was epic. Good job
More ancient and medieval history please! Your videos are top notch!
Griff this was a fantastic video man, well done!
Loved the nod to all the RUclips historians too; especially H. Civ!
The Punic Wars were basically the World Wars of the ancient world.
The Rome Total War soundtrack made the video more entertaining, grate job.
They need to add an online campaign in Rome Remastered.
One more important bit- per treaty the Romans had dominion of Spain north of the Ebro River and Carthage south. The Romans' formation of a protectorate/alliance with Saguntum was a violation of the treaty...and that Roman envoy was pretty cheeky to offer them peace or war
I get goosebumps every time the total war: Rome soundtrack kicks in.
CARTHAGO DELENDA EST!
No!
Proud to be born and raised in Carthage.
Carthage legacy still living in every vein.
The difference between Roman politics and Carthaginian Politics was astounding. While Carthage refused to support Hannibal and cowered when Rome made demands, Rome doubled down and united against their strongest foe when he was at their gates. There are no records, for example, of pro-Carthaginian Roman sympathizers, Senatorial factions who vied for peace, coups within Rome, etc. Rather, those who could all wanted to command the armies themselves.
For the algorithm great episode.
Depending on which source you believe, going by numbers of people, the largest naval battle was Chi Bi in 208-209.
I couldn't imagine being a soldier in any of these old armies, they had to have some true grit to even make it to the battlefield. Going on campaigns for years and years on top of that, goodness.
Fantastic video! Excellent, and I mean excellent story. Hats off to the illustrators! Again, great job.
dang it you spoiled for oversimplified
This was 2 years ago.
With this context its amazing to see that Rome survived as long as it did, with its Senate being more dysfunctional than the Carthaginans, all it took was one Carthaginian disagreement and the entire empire collapsed, Rome stood tall for centuries. I suspect Lady Luck really was with Rome
Hanibals exile is almost as interesting as his time in italy. You should do a video on yhat
Messina gets comfortable with Carthage. All of a sudden Rome pulls up into the driveway.
MESSINIA: Crap! Rome's back from the senate early!
CARTHAGE: You invited Rome?
ROME *opens the door*: WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH MY MESSENIA CARTHAGE!
MESSENIA: Bae, it's not what it-
*Fist fight starts*
EGYPT in the corner: I don't really care who wins, so long as they're having fun.
18:26 Now that's something
Yoooo my love for ancient history is being pandered to and I’m happy af
Mentionning the centuries later Vandal Kingdom is like a Carthaginian nation reborn but under a Vandalic Monarchy and Nobles could have been a way to extent its history, even in the 5th century, the population of Carthage was still overwhelmingly Punic but with massive Latin influences
crossing the alps truly was a hard and impressive feat
yo the animation is insane
Great shout out to the other content creators when I saw you put up their logos
11:41…..wait a minute
1:48 Weird that this video doesn't mark that it is sponsored content. When there is an ad in the middle of it. I am pretty sure influencers etc., and people on RUclips are supposed to do that.
Amazing video, I would really appreciate it if you covered more ancient history
Hannibal actually recruited plenty of Gallic fighters to his cause as both the Carthaginians and the Gauls had one single similar enemy..... Rome
You are really good at making me switch sides.
As I always say, Rome the "Borg" of the ancient world. What that doesn't kill them they will adapt, grow, and consume.
No way, I started rome remastered a few seconds before the add played
Lol! The Barca's family tree is in French! Merci Bien! ;-)
Always interesting to see Carthaginian videos.
Too bad this one has many errors and forgotten, and important, details.
To name a few. Barcelona was founded by the romans some 200 years, more or less, after the 2nd punic war. Its original name is Barcino
2nd, Hamilcar marry his daughter to Hasdrubal in order to secure partisans in Carthage. Hasdrubal's influence gains him the city's support and sanction in his endeavour in Iberia. After the death of the Barcid leader, Carthage named Hasdrubal to succeed him and after his death, the army chose Hannibal
Saguntum kicked off everything that ultimately lead to Carthages end. War was inevitable but that is where everything started. Had they chose peace it could've gained them more time to prepare againt Rome.
Rome greatest enemy is not Hannibal or Attila. It's themselves and Odoacer's domino push.
1:57 stop the cap
Nice video. I greatly enjoyed it.
Hannibal was a great military mind, but he met his match in Scipio.
Romans ultimately won because they never gave up and always refused to accept defeat.
It saddens mee to see how this video oversimplifies the battle of zama. Hannibals tactic was for his cavalry to keep the roman cavalry buzzy, then his last line of elite troops would be able to beat the Roman last line of infantry. The roman cavalry returning in time was as much luck as skill
Fun fact: You are shilled until 3:00.
You're welcome.
Rome remastered has some cool features but it feels like a mobile game ported to computer I just keep playing original rtw
it's sad that all of hannibal's victories were for nothing
Well, well, well, the Armchair is covering ancient history again. Love to see it Griffin!
My man!
Love your videos as well!
Ihr sind super.
still want furniture history.
He has to, RUclips demontizes any modern conflicts
_"He plucked his own eye out to avoid dying of an infection."_
Respect.
I watched this video with my dad and he was like damn
I don't get it
@@Atheneon he tore his own eye to avoid death from infection
takes balls to do something drastic albeit life saving
Where u think the idea of Odin came from
Fun fact: elephants were geven wine to be more agressive
Elephants drink booze in the wild to get drunk, so not far off
Yo typo: geven
Maybe I am an elephant ...
Relatable
I thought they ware given pot to smoke to better pogo their way through the crowd
Please do “Great Emu War from the perspective of the emus”
Agree
Emu comander: [enter Emu text here]
70 Emu soldiers: [enter Emu text here]
The Australians: what are the saying?
The translator: [enter Emu screams here]
😂😂😂
He will as soon as CA does a remaster of Total War:Down Under
The Emu's call it the slight inconvenience.
Carthaginian Politics:
"We are against kings and autocrats! We are a Republic of the people!"
"Cool. So...can I vote?"
"I dunno...How much money you got?"
People vote thereby making it a republic
Doesn't mean everyone gets to vote
To be fair that's how the US essentially was until 1856
@@alexguymon7117 Essentially how the US still is today lol
@Garviel Loken sure thing Jefferson Davis
Rome is essentially the same with the rich Romans having more influence in elections
It is kinda ironic that the Romans burned Carthage but then Caesar was the one who rebuilt it.
Caesar was a guy of vision
@@kemalkaraboga3872 didnt he also ordet the burning of the Library of Alexanderia
@@razr-x9666 dude come on, he burned Egyptian ships, fire spread to Library, not intentional
@@kemalkaraboga3872 agreed he was not at fault it was an accident and a majority of the library was intact but it would not be for long *cough Christians cough(this is not intended to offend any Christians it is a joke)
@@nebsam7137 But real facts . Their superstitious and closed religion and mentality are the only reason we lost a big part of humanity's history Forever.
Fun fact: In 1985 the mayors of Rome and Carthage signed a peace treaty to finally end the last Punic War.
need a source on that
That's amazing
1985??? what???
Its a symbolic peacef treaty lol
I heard that the mayors of Sparta and Athens did the same in like... 2006 or something
Friend: Who was the Roman commander who fought Carthage?
Me: do you remember his name?
Friend: I think he was called Scipio
Me: do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?
Scipio africanus
He asks you about his name and you answer: "do you remember his name?" lmao
*PUBLIUS* *CORNELIUS* *SCIPIO* *AFRICANUS*
@@monsieur1936 yes, one of the most Roman names ever
@@luckyassassin1 there were three Scipio generals who fought Carthage: Publius Cornelius Scipio (the Elder), Scipio Africanus (his son), and Scipio Aemilianus.
*freakin crosses the ALPS on an ELEPHANT*
"That hannibal guy would be a decent naval commander"
- Antiochus III (probably)
Edit: Antiochus** lol
Good one:)
I see youre a man of culture as well
Pardon; I think you mean Antiochus III, though Hannibal did attempt to link up with Philip V of the Antigonid Dynasty during the Second Punic War.
@@jasonlupo4117 I have also mixed up Antigonus and Antiochus before so understandable mistake haha funnily enough Antigonus III died an early death just before the second punic war. Otherwise it might have had happened that Hannibal allied with Antigonus III instead of Philip V
by the way .. hannibal fought rome as a naval commander in the country that he was exiled to
The Rome Total War OST in the credits was on spot
Some of the best soundtrack in the whole total war series
The best song on that soundtrack is divinitus
Throughout the whole video in point of fact
Fun fact: After being exiled Hannibal went to the seleucid empire and was a general during the Roman-Seleucid war.
That guy was fucking metal
its real ??
is that what really happened ?
@@hbg5942 yes
@@vidanristic and what happened to him ? , why he was absent in history after that , and no one knew nothing about him anymore ? it was his choice to contiue living like an unknown figure ?
Came here from Oversimplified's Second Punic Wars. Classic dejavu, as this video was also recommended to me last year
This one is quite underwelming after watching oversimplifieds vidio.
Imagine if Carthage won the Punic Wars, European languages would be entirely different today.
Europe itself would likely be entirely different. And the world for that matter.
@@jacobhargiss3839 this. Buddhism would even be different considering the fact it has Latin influence
If Carthage won I think the Celtic culture will dominate Europe more than the German culture.
@@gs043420 how so? not that i doubt it, but curious
We would also sacrifice babies
If Hannibal used his tactical nuke, he would have won.
Nah, he wouldn't have cheated. He liked the fight.
What if he had a nuclear bomb?
nah he should have just used 62842 tanks and 1028282832 infantry then he would most likely win cus nukes are cheating
What
Yes, but Ghandi would have used it as a cassus belli to launch a nuclear strike with his superior aresenal, allowing him to conquer Carthage and Rome in one fell swoop
Honestly whoever’s in charge of Rome Remastered’s marketing deserves a raise. All my favorite channels have been sponsored by it.
Same! They’re just awesome!
Too bad it is sorta crap.
@@jacobp.4593 honestly agreed. Feels just as janky as it did back in the day. Rome II is where it’s at.
They removed the ability to purchase the old game from all platforms and now force people to buy the more expensive and unimpressive remastered version if you want to play it if you didn't already own it. Fans would much rather them just started making good games again...
If only they spent that PR money on actually making the Remastered version any good.
I was really hoping that Griff would tell the story of a Roman general weeping as Carthage burned. Saying. "He feared it would happen to Rome one day"
Foreshadowing in real life
And ironically it did in 410 a.d by Alaric.
Then in 1453 against Constantinople, the "New Rome ".
@@joshuacondell1686
Don't forget Nero, singing about the burning of Carthage while playing a musical instrument while Rome burnt down around him.
And then he built his Domus Aureus or whatever.
Stronzo!
@@zhouwu Nero wasn’t even in rome when it burnt and some sources say he was leading the efforts of quelling the fire, rebuilt the city in a way that such a fire cant happen again on the same scale and let some of the people sleep on palace grounds because their homes burnt.
@@shgalagalaa
"Some sources". Sounds a bit vague. I could use "some sources" to say pretty much anything about anybody.
That doesn't make it true. It certainly doesn't make it credible.
Carthaginian fortune teller: “uh guys? We all know salt is bad for you, but I have a premonition that the Romans are gonna take it to a whole new level”.
The odd thing is that the Roman province of Africa (a bit bigger than modern day Tunisia) became one of the three breadbaskets of the Roman Empire, making me think the salt thing was something added later to the story.
Who's AWAKE in 2021?
@@alex_zetsu Yeah, probably made up long after the war as salt in ancient times is expensive and raze the city to the ground (mostly) more than enough to set any city to nothing for centuries.
The next video: "The Cavemen Wars from the Monke perspective"
Homo sapiens conquest from Homo erectus perpective
Like are you salty about ancient history video or what are you on about?
@@freddekl1102 he made a joke dude
@@fidelklckap1821 I'm not blind, but it definitely looks like guy above wanted in a snarky way disapprove of content not related to modern history
@@freddekl1102 WTF, was just a joke, no deep meanings in there
This guy is more oversimplified than Oversimplified today.
Ik right just have to wait another year for oversimplified
Be Hannibal:
-swore an oath of vengance to rome
-become one of the best if not the best ancient general in the known world
-Crosses the alps on winter with some elephants
-killed more than 100 k able bodied roman soldier
- **still loses cuz some guy name scipeepoo said no**
He didn't understand the Roman mentality and so didn't sack Rome thinking they'd do what had always happened till then and ask for a treaty undoing all the damage of the 1st war and making Carthage the big power. Unfortunately Rome was something different and refused to give up. Hannibal just couldn't get hus head around this and by the time he understood it was too late.
@@itarry4 I personally think that Hannibal did not know that Rome itself was
vulnerable because he had no idea where the rest of the Roman armies were or how strong the garrison was and shortage of engineer in his army most likely dissuade him from laying siege to major roman cities with strong defences. By the time he realised his mistake it whas to late.
@@funnyjupiter4499 Also his cavalry which was one of his best weapons with the hammer and anvil would be ineffective. It's such an interesting question, Could Hannibal have truly sacked Rome?
@@funnyjupiter4499 it might be or a bit of both. I used to believe the same as you but I've seen a few things lately that say theres record of his disbelief that they don't surrender and its known that before Rome it's what civilisations did. I mean take Carthage themselves as soon as a slight threat turned up they gave in. Its not hard to see with that as his example why Hannibal would think they'd want to talk.
Also while I can accept that he might not have known what was going on in the Senate I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't know things like the amount of troops and how secure the city was. For example he knew he could fairly easily cut them from the coast and stop their supply.
@@itarry4 We will never know the concrit truth of Hannibal's decision but it is very interesting to speculate,
as you said it might have ben a combination of all of these thing we have listed or it might have ben for completely different resons whose information have been lost to us thanks to time.
Between armchair historian, invicta, kings and generals I have no time for anything else but history!
Don’t forget about TIK as well
Same , I should probably be studying instead though lol
Try Syntagma too. They're better than all these guys, especially showing the overhead military strategy. They just need more videos. Bazbattles is good too.
Historia civilis...
Epic History TV’s Napoleon series
HistoryMarche’s Hannibal series
Are some of the best out there
Imagine being the guy that ordered to siege Messina unknowingly starting the chain of events that lead to the destruction of Carthage.
EDIT: I know war would have happened anyways that's not my point.
Phyrrus was a madman too
@@jonbaxter2254 declared war against the known world and suffering from his success.
Those dirty fucking Mamertines
@@sorcierenoire8651 literally
Its likely Carthage and Rome would have gone to war later as Carthage controlled the sea trade routes
A beautifully sad poetic part of history, all other documentaries tell the story mostly from the Roman side, making it a heroic story , rather than a sad demise.
It is done because Rome is what stood in the beginning of the western civilizations. How could you get any other perspective? Those are our cultural ancestors and there is nothing sad about the fall of Carthage - mainly, because the fall of any of the two would be an objective historical process that would determine the ONLY hegemony of the Mediterranean. It just so happened that it was Carthage that fell. If it would have been sad in both cases (which the fall of Rome would have been, as well, if it happened to be the result) - then there is nothing to regret. Hooray to objective historical processes!
To the victor goes the spoils of war.
@@krein6121 There is always a narrative tied to history. Even in your 'objective' comment, you lead with "...Rome is what stood in the beginning of the western civilizations. How could you get any other perspective?"
1.) "Rome is what stood in the beginning of western civilizations" is already a narrative claim, if not a very common one. Many western civilizations, such as the Irish, Scottish, Bretons, Scandinavians, and various Germans and Slavs defined themselves more in their opposition to Rome than as descendants of Rome.
2.) "How could you get any other perspective?" is handily ignoring that there exists parts of the world (indeed, most of the world) that do NOT view Rome as the heroic underdogs that developed their nation, but rather as foreign conquerors that snuffed them out. Some of these views go back to when Rome was still around (i.e. Semetic peoples who viewed Romans as conquerors since the day Roman troops entered their lands) to surprisingly modern (like Greek nationalists who viewed the moniker Roman as one of foreign subjugation of Greece.)
I do agree that one can *strive* to be objective, and to recognize that viewing the result of a conflict so ancient and influential as the Punic Wars as either good or bad is in no way an objective view of history (or necessarily constructive). But that doesn't diminish the fact that there are narratives in history, and the common narrative around the objective facts of the Punic War is one of a glorious Roman triumph against all odds. Showing an opposing narrative, that of a slow, sad, Carthaginian demise at the hands of a dogged and (seemingly) treacherous enemy can be valuable. It can help challenge the non-objective narrative built around the Punic Wars.
It's like you said: It would have been sad either way from *somebody's* point of view. But if we only ever hear the Roman point of view, then we forget that fact and treat it like some grand story of Roman conquest, rather than looking at it as it was: an important historical conflict with winners, and losers.
Rome won. It was heroic, the Romans were fighting a more powerful and skilled forced and still won. That is heroic, also not to mention they fought what seemed to be monsters (elephants) and still came out on top.
There's a good book "Carthage must be destroyed" (quotations part of the title). It's a pretty balanced look at the whole history of relations between Rome and Carthage more from the c perspective.
Fun fact: in Tunisia, there’s still a city called Carthage, in which there’s a port called Amilcar, Carthage port is still there too, and so many Carthagian and Roman ruins, including cities, Beautiful scenes to see. Most Tunisian cities names are of Carthagian/Roman/Italian/Spanish origin. Good video that tells us a lot about our history.
In Spain there is also a city called Carthage (formerly "New Carthage"). And there is a city in Colombia named after it.
@@simmetriad this is called Qart Hadast or QRT-HDST Nova
While learning about the civil war my history teacher let me show the entire class this video only an hour after it was published. Didn't even care that I was on my phone.
you learn about carthage ?
where are u from ?
@@-carthage7779 most of the world learns about punic wars
@@adrianjezierski8093
that's awesome .
Carthage is so underrated.
greetings from tunisia !
@@adrianjezierski8093 canadian here, our history classes were terrible. we didn't even learn a eurocentric view of the big events eg stalingrad, bagration, etc. The option for ancient history was west n the world which wasn't that popular to begin with and even then didn't touch the punic wars.
theres this movie called starship troopers which subbed in carthage with hiroshima simply because of how few people would get the reference
makes me sad :(
@@adrianjezierski8093 You have a Very Eurocentric view if you think most of the world learns of the Punic wars 🤔
Armchair Historian is one of the few channels that goes in depth onto the most interesting parts of history.
Thank you Mr. Griffin Johnson
how is punic wars underrated? dummy
Punic Wars underrated? U must watch only this channel then LOL. Kings and Generals, HistoryMarch and even Invicta make videos about it... And its not even in depth. This is only general and with no details. If you would like to see this topic in detail, it would be like 4-5 h long... and its only about second Punic War. So pls.
@@herrerasyvovololeksandr2841 lel I am
@@herrerasyvovololeksandr2841 how'd u guess my gender's dummy lmfao
@@SuperPythoon don’t forget about Extra Credits. It’s not half as in depth as those you mentioned, but it still does better job of describing the details (in a concise and general way) of the actual people involved than this channel.
Random Holding Guard 1: "Hey, did you see something moving up there on the Ardennes?"
Random Holding Guard 2: "Nah, must be just your imagination. Nothing is living up there."
Hannibal dismounting his war elephant and meeting the Roman general face to face gave me goosebumps.
So much at stake, so much raw anger.
But also so much raw respect. I mean, if the two of them were willing to walk out into the middle of the field before the battle and have a discussion, they must've had at least some respect for each other. And like Griffin said, maybe in another time and another life, they could've called each other friend.
@@kristihenriques3281 If only :(
Hannibal had taken the consular ring from Emilius Paulus in Cannae. Paulus was Scipio Father in law. It is said that Hannibal promised Scipio to return the ring if he defeated him in Zama. After the battle, he sent an envoy with the ring to Scipio.
This wasn't the last time the two would meet. Later when Hannibal was working as a mercenary for a king of the east, Scipio Africanus was an envoy from Rome and the two chatted a bit regarding their past, even engaging in a bit of wordplay.
Part of Scipio's fall from grace may have been because he stood against Rome's desire to hunt down and kill Hannibal, who by this point was an old man working as a commander and advisor for a far-off king who wasn't of any real threat any longer.
Hannibal respected Publius
Extremely well done. Hannibal was an incredibly talented general and leader, who was repeatedly betrayed by his own people. His is a tragic story, actually. Great video, as always, Griffin!
Classic north Africans
The editing in this one is particularly good, I was glued to the screen from start to finish, well done armchair team
not gonna lie the shoutout to other history channels on RUclips, was pretty sweet. This is great man, makes me want to do the Hannibal at the Gates campaign in Rome 2.
I wish you also mentioned the kind of irony/strange revenge that was the Vandal Kingdom of Africa. Its capitol was in Carthage and the Vandals not only sacked Rome but destroyed a combined Eastern and Western Roman fleet sent to destroy them and raided the mediterranean with impunity.
Until Belisarius took them down.
I was a veteran of the 2nd Punic war. Still remember our hikes in the Alps. Loved the pizzas in Italy. We always had shitty ones back in my hometown Zama. Thanks to our trip to Rome, I got to taste fine wine and great food.
Hey, fellow punic wars veteran here!
Pizzas with no tomatoes though. How I wish I was born millennia later and could eat new world crops. :(
I hated the damn Gauls who threw balls of dung at us when we crossed the Alps and descended down the Po Valley completely exhausted.
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Are you sure you want pineapples on your pizzas?
Thanks for the service sir!
Hannibal never fought Legionaries. The Romans hadn't adopted that system yet, instead using a three rank levy system of Hastati, Princupes and Triarii
A roman army could still be referred to as a legion during the republic
It still was a legion the only difference is that later legion's subunits are not called maniples but cohorts and aren't divided into 3 categories but are completely uniform.
@@sosig6445 There was a difference in the tactics, equipment, army composition and training of the forces, which is why calling them a legion and leaving it at that can be a bit misleading. Yes, they were called legions, but today using the term legion conjures up an image of professional, full time soldiers clad in heavy armor, so it's important to make a distinction between the two.
@@dingusdean1905 Name schematics. The Republican Pre Marian Army was probably the most experienced throughout the whole of Roman History. By the time of Marius, all of Italy, Sardinia and Corsica, Sicily, most of Spain, the southern coast of Gaul, North Africa (besides Egypt and modern Morocco), Greece and Asia Minor were effectively under Roman dominion in a time span of less than 200 years since the Pryhic conflict, that's a lot of war and diplomatic lessons to pass down the generations. How part time soldiers could accomplish this was due to effective domestic and international policies and laws, abundance of manpower and allies and an ego filed masculine spirit. Id say the days of the mid Republic were the Golden Years of the history of Rome. As soon as slave hoarding land hoarding became a major issue, you can start to see cracks in the Roman military, hence Marius. The pre Marius army faced some of the biggest threats to Rome, Italic federations, Gauls, Celtiberians, Greeks, Punics, Germans. Kudos to them.
@@dingusdean1905 Samurais didn't always fight with the samurai sword, sometimes they fought with spears or axes or the bow and arrow, they were still samurais. The same applies to the Roman Legion, they evolved and changed, that's what you're trying to say.
As a Tunisian learning about the Punic wars in middle school , I remember being so bitter about Rome winning despite the brilliance of Hannibal lmao , we all felt the same in class
Anyone from Oversimplified? 🙃
The quality of these videos has gotten better with each post, keep up the awesome work
The OG total war music has got me vibing in a testudo formation.
Nice one
I’m of the opinion that the vow ‘never be a friend to Rome’ is a misunderstanding. Carthage called their vassal states and tribes ‘friends’. Believe that the vow was less of a ‘destroy the Romans’ but more ‘never submit to Rome.’
Griffin can you maybe do a video about life under the German occupation of Norway or of Denmark. The WW2 videos are always insane.
Honestly just the fact that their competent leader and commander of a father had nothing but good competent leaders and commanders for sons is impressive. Seems like the trend is always that the great leader dies and either has no competent heirs to their legacy or the lesser heirs sabotage the one good heir out of greed
If you think the Germans and Napoleon had it rough in Russia, just imagine crossing the freaking Alps in ancient armor and sandals 2000 years earlier!!
(And with a privateer army in a war you provoked ^^)
All failed because supplies got cut
I mean 30 million died on the eastern front in ww2 so I’m not sure they had it easy