Ever since Microsoft closed Tango, i’ve been in a “fuck Microsoft” type of mood. Tango being closed hurts the most out of all the closures. It’s a shame we’ll likely never see an Evil Within 3, or a Ghostwire sequel.
Yep, I'm with you there. It just doesn't make any sense. They closed a studio with a popular gamepass Game and talent that is proving and can add value to the brand. Looks like I meed to reply the evil within once again because looks like no point waiting for a third entry ...
Hello my friend, I completely agree with you and you know how supportive of Xbox I was at the beginning. I was really enthusiastic and I kept defending them when people were criticizing them, I don't mean to make it all about myself here, but they made me look stupid for defending them and now I have to eat crow. I saw so much potential in these smaller acquisitions, but then they had to get greedy and bought Bethesda, I was still OK with it, but then there was the whole Activision/Blizzard deal that took all the attention of the fans. They already had good studios with a lot of potential, and all we could talk about was that stupid deal. We've received nothing but bad news since then. I was imagining all those great games coming out, with smaller talented studios like Obsidian, InXile, Compulsion Games,... and we received next to nothing. I'm looking forward to Avowed, we'll see how it does. I'm so disappointed, I'm glad I still am primarily a Nintendo gamer and have a PS5 now. I still love my Xbox Series S and had a blast with it. I played great games such as the Halo games that I discovered with it, Wasteland 3, Tales of Arise,... so I will keep fond memories of it, but I don't believe in the future of the brand anymore. To finish this comment, Sarah Bond was painful to listen to, she seemed like she knew she was talking nonsense but had to, her words said one thing, her face and her body language said another, completely different. It reminded me of the moments I had an exam, knew I didn't know anything, but tried to give stupid answers to the teacher to grab a few points, while feeling completely stupid.
Hey friend!! Those were fun and optimistic times 🥳 I enjoyed talking about the potential of XBOX during those days with you and I came so very close to buying the console myself 🙂 I was actually thinking of you, when I mentioned the Series S is a great little console, as I know you have enjoyed it a lot! I'm just getting tired of watching all these companies making huge mistakes, that to me feel really obvious. It never occured to them that buying the Studios is only step one, but now they need to think they need to keep paying them to make Games? I actually mentioned that point in my last XBOX focused video and it turns out Microsoft had not done the math to keep the studios going.... How they could spent close to 100 Billion in total and didn't do the Math... 😵 I think the success of last generation made many companies too confident in Video Games. Not recognising the tallent & time needed to make good Games, thinking if they threw enough money it would just work out. I think this year will be remembered by the greedy publishers as a lesson. Hopefully good Games can become the priority once again and people can keep their jobs 🙂
Also yes, I was also imagining wonderful and unique Games to come out. Instead they mostly bought developers who were known for third party support across all platforms.
@@GamingMyWholeLife Hey my friend! Sorry for the late reply. That's right, I have quite fond memories of those times, and it was also nice for me to talk about that with you. When I got the console I was having a blast at the beginning, and I still am to a degree, that's why I don't regret getting it. Oh cool, that's nice, I appreciate that and you mentioning the Series S even more now. Yes, you are completely right. They spent so much money but now we want to see the results and we are only getting bad news. Yes, I remember your video, it was good. I think they became too powerful and greedy and lost sight of what's really important, the games and the gamers. Yes, that might be a reason. I would say that that was the case of Playstation but I'm not sure that really applies to Xbox to be honest, even though I understand where you are coming from. I think you nailed it in your last video, they are just too rich and don't have enough reason to worry about that. Yes, the thing is, it will turn off smaller publishers from accepting big offers like Microsoft did. I'm sure many of the newly acquired Xbox studios now are afraid and uncertain about the future. That's right, we both did and they disappointed us. The thing is, I don't regret it, I remember your video on hype as well. Even though we are disappointed now, the good time we had talking about the possible future of Xbox was still a good time and I don't regret it.
Letting people play games for free is always a good way of ruining them and lowering metascores. People do not feel towards games they get to play for free, there is no commitment, hence they never really get the true mettle of any games they play on gamepass. Free stuff always feels meh when compared to stuff you paid full price for.
They tried to buy solutions to all their problems and its clearly not working. Xbox just needs some good exclusive games to make them stand out. Instead, they spent Billions buying companies that were Third Party anyway and would have ended up on the Xbox consoles without the need to buy them
Let’s suppose Microsoft did not purchase Bethesda what was going to happen? The same thing that’s happening right now perhaps even worse. Remember they didn’t buy, but when the company was high on the hog, they bought the company when it was on a down turn trying to figure out how to make money. If they hadn’t purchased Bethesda, you would’ve seen these layoffs come and worse. Too many people act as if Microsoft caused all of this damage and that’s not true. The companies they purchased were in trouble to begin with they needed the money.
@@jermelpurse3018 I only got angry with the thought of a possible fallout psvr2 rumour being crushed, although it was only a rumour it still had this simpleton worried, also I'm shocked there's no Skyrim psvr2 yet? That was amazing on psvr1, I'm sure customers would be happy with a straight over port version with better movement controls.
It seems that the gaming industry's primary concern is profit, which could lead to a crash at the top end. Our best chance of keeping gaming alive lies with AA games and indie developers. Instead of relying on idiots who don't play or purchase games, companies should reach out to registered player accounts through surveys to understand what games they truly want to play. Additionally, it's important to recognize that not every game can cater to everyone's tastes; people have different preferences when it comes to genres of games.
I agree and I think profit as the number one Goal is totally fine. What astounds me is the many poor decisions, that lead to failure and makes sure the profit is rather poor or none existent. Surveys are a great idea, CAPCOM has been using that lately and I think Publishers should listen to what fans want, as opposed to trends. That last statement you made is very important and accurate. Because they inflate their own budgets too much (I have no Sympathy in that regard, because if they spend 200 Million on a Game, it's because they think they will get even more back). So due to this greed, they have to aim for everyone, while pleasing no one. Focused Games knowing their Target Audience normally kill it ! 😃
I think the day 1 aspect is actually the most destructive aspect, even if that is what is the best part as well. If Games still needed to perform good at launch at least and the motivation/ Requirement of releasing good Games is still the overall goal ~ this could have worked. Hellblade 2 launched today or the reviews are at least out. Most will not buy and since everyone has access day 1, it's a short 8 hour game that will be already forgotten a fortnight from now sadly
I agree with you on this too , because Xbox just lost me as a customer as soon as they said they're getting rid the physical copies of games and Sony loss me as a customer when don't care about they're history of games I do like on the older consoles. But I'm a retro gamer so I went back playing the classics
Sometimes we just need to take a break from Games and enjoy the older ones for a bit. I love replaying older Games and sometimes newer Games get me excited 🙂
Hmm I'm not sure. It would be in better hands compared to Microsoft but that series did have a very different feeling to the Resident Evil Games. If they did, I would hope they hire shinji to at least over look things. The 2nd Game was fun but tried too hard to please critics of the first Game and lost a bit of the magic ✨
Correct. People are too shortsighted. Netflix was great too when it was the only streaming service and had everything for about $8.99 a month (that's what it was when I first subscribed around 2009 or so), but now the top Netflix plan is like $22 or $24 (they've raised the price twice in the last year) and it's one of a multitude of other streaming services that cumulatively add up to more than cable was. At absolute best, GamePass basically becomes a streaming monopoly and they jack up the price massively to make the license agreements to have games on it sustainable. At worst, GamePass becomes one of 10 other streaming services you have to subscribe to if you want to stream all the games. Buying games during a Steam sale might cost more depending on how many games you buy and at how deep a discount, but the games are yours forever, and you don't have to worry about a game being rotated out of the service mid playthrough and such. The same analog is basically true for buying / ripping Blu-Rays for something like Jellyfin / Emby / Plex versus paying subscription fees for the rest of your life.
Love those steam sales 😃 Like, we are screwed if steam ever shuts down but otherwise yes, I think its great. I just never liked the business strategy that XBOX has been going with. I've had some hypothesis around it all and it all seems to be playing out as I feared.
@@GamingMyWholeLife Yeah. Valve being a private company (and thus not having any shareholders to be beholden to) helps a lot when it comes to putting my trust in them, as does their history of being pro consumer. Still,I’ve got around 1100 Steam games at this point, so it would be nice if I could will them to somebody when I die lmao.
Imagine how many good games can be made with those 80 billion, but nah let's give it to naughty old man Bobby. I still can't believe the deal go through. It's a blatant attempt at monopoly. I even heard son of the judge is working for Ms. How is that not a blatant conflict of interest? Now it's past then we're seeing the consequences. I guess the fool will soon part with their money, in this case the billion spent returns nothing.
The funniest part is these Billions were spent on third party developers.... Meaning, if they did NOT buy Bethesda, XBOX fans would have still got to play starfield and the next elder scrolls Games 😂 The money was not even spent to buy exclusive games and experiences.
I enjoyed The evil within game's was hoping for a 3rd game. Never had any interest in the Xbox consoles . Microsoft have made some really bad decisions. Your right about the cost of some game's in Australia $130 for me is too much , I usually wait for a sale.
Its an insult and I'm sure they loose more money in the long run from people refusing to buy 😑 Glad you enjoyed The Evil Within series!! Looove the Games and especially the first entry 🥳
@RAM_845 I know what you mean. Sometimes theres a big sale and its still costs a lot. I still have not bought GT7 because the base price is too high and even on sale, costs waay too much.
Xbox and Sony had been saying IP & Blockbuster for so long, it is not surprise they just want the IP, not the studios. As much as people say they don't know what gamers want, people still pay enough for them to make such decision. What they want from innovative studio is the next Minecraft, next WoW, next LoL, Next Genshin Impact etc. Not Hi-Fi Rush that win the fame from hardcore gamers, while nothing for the majority casual gamers.
Hi fi rush was well into development and close to release before Microsoft took anything over. So they don't get credit for that and it was very well received, where players praise it to this day. It make GP look good but clearly, Microsoft has not known what they are doing for a while now. They should have had them working on the next evil within game, can an exclusive survival horror game not available anywhere else
Ive been whatever about the closures but this one actually hurts. They could have had by far the best new survival horror series to come out in the last decade continue exclusively under them.
So much wasted potential and yeah, Xbox could have had an ace up their sleeve with them. I'm just tired of seeing Games fail and developers going under, making obvious mistakes. Any company actually focused on making the best game they can are killing it
It's a shame that tango couldn't update evil within 1 for steam, gog and console versions with gamepass/microsoft store update. (Gamepass has alot more content and new stuff than other versions)
When I first saw your video in quarantine about survival horror from Tango Gameworks isn't gone, I was actually hyped. Now that this happened, Idk if I will ever find another good survival horror game like the evil within. I think I also heard that Shinji Mikami is in another studio now. I'm not sure if it was confirmed news, but if so, I hope we can get a good survival horror game from there.
Sadly it's true, Shinji was no longer part of Tango at the time of the closure. Tbh, we have to appreciate The Evil Within Series for the rare series that it was and likely will never be again. Even Indies are doing more with Survival Horror than AAA Devs these days ☹ I'm always keeping an eye out and if anything great is on the Horizon, I'll def do a vid on it to draw attention
The Evil Within Dead? I was never interested in This game but guess what? With the news of The studio closing I am now playing the game. The same with Hifi rush I will play it once I'm done with The Evil Within. Sometimes something has to die for people to pay attention to their work.
They were def right in this case. Shame Sony got greedy and messed up their own online offerings, lol. I can think of a number of ways Xbox could have made GP more success
I was really looking forward to an evil within 3. They need games on xbox for the brand and they hacked the team with the best reviewed xbox game last year. That tweet they made about hi-fi rush was an ad, they didn't believe their own words. Dishonored, evil within, prey?? No more wtf
Anyone interested in making good Games, doesn't close down a company that was proven to know how to make good Games. I'm thinking there won't even be a next generation for XBOX at this stage. There focus seems to be elsewhere and have completely given up trying to be relevant to Nintendo or Sony. Disappointing to say the least
Idk ive never payed a cent for the yakuza series because i always got it on the game pass. Yakuza 0-7, Yakuza: Ishin and Yakuza the name who erased his name for free lmao
I just think Microsoft is making such poor financial decisions and killing countless studios in the process. They really should have never started buying others out. They can afford to make their own things
There has always been good and bad games. I used to rent games from blockbuster to see if I liked the game. I have a series s for game pass and is perfect to try out all kinds of different games. Some games I like and some I don’t like starfield. These days I always buy games on sale for my Xbox and ps5. There seems to be more bad games than good ones.
One grim lesson from all of this is that these megacorporations are not meritocratic institutions... something worth bearing in mind, especially when dealing with their apologists.
@@WeeWeeJumbo China has a long tradition of meritocracy, with the mandarins being chosen on the basis of examinations. Though the mandarins are in the past, contemporary China seems to have a strong meritocratic strain. The open-source community is also meritocratic for obvious reasons.
i wish every one of these videos would remind us all, every time, that Game Pass could never have been sustainable, and was simply a way to smother Xbox competition under money, rather than becoming truly great or viable in the long term. Game Pass was a stunt and so was ABK/Bethesda. neither one brought Xbox any closer to greatness. *there’s no shortcut to greatness.*
No shortcut to greatness, exactly!! They are not even trying to make great Games and they should be. Talk about using their money in a way no one wanted
Yeah it is sad that they closed down Tango gamework that made Hi-fi rush and the evil within 1 and 2 that I both play and beat that I own the second one on steam. But damn it is sad that we won't get a third the evil within and a second one all thanks to microsoft that I decide to play the evil within 2 again on steam as a respect For Tango gameworks death and same goes for the evil within franchise.
I'll also be replaying The Evil Within Games. Sometimes game series don't continue and so we need to appreciate what we did get to enjoy. Maybe another team will do it one day or someone else buys the rights 😲
Such a fantastic series. The first especially, was a work of art. The pacing, tone story and even the graphics still look gorgeous in my eyes. The depth of field worked especially well with adding to the moody atmosphere 🥳
Carefully bought Games on STEAM during a sale is honestly cheaper than paying Gamepass in my opinion. That said, I don't want to shame anyone for enjoying the service, I just don't believe it results in the best Games possible, which to me should always be the Goal. Also just mad at Microsoft, confirming my Theory they don't care about good Games. Such a waste of potential
Best answer go private and crowd fund is the only way you'll ever see your vision Look at Robert's space aka star citizen they have been stealing crowd source cash for years now and will never release a product So go that route but plz ship your product
I hate xbox who support gamepass.. U know gamepass will destroy. Gaming industry make quantity over quality.. microsoft is parasite in gaming industry.. while sony tried so hard make quality game with limited money..
At the moment they are sucking a lot. Hopefully they can get their act together. Sony was much better last generation, hopefully they can get back to focusing on quality Games again
I know you were a big fan as well!! Such upsetting news 🥺 I was thinking about you recently, since I have not seen you around much. I know you have some health issues that come up, I hope your doing okay Mate!! 🙂
@@GamingMyWholeLife One of favourite games dude😫 I'm not too well at the moment unfortunately having problems with old surgery wounds Hope You're keeping well yourself my friend 👍🏻
I'm sorry to hear that Mate!! I hope things get better for you and you experience improvement. Not having a great day myself, some old problems have returned and so I'm struggling a bit but otherwise I'm doing well 🙂 If only I could report on Soul Reaver coming back, that would help put you in a better mood 😃
@@GamingMyWholeLife Thanks George I appreciate that my friend! I'm keeping positive! Im fighting the good fight! I'm sorry that you are going through a difficult time. I hope that things will get better for you my friend!🙂👍
I'm gonna be honest, and yall are not gonna like this, but .. Zenimax were 100% going to close Tango if Xbox dis not acquire Bethesda. Majority of Tango Games do not sell well. Hi-Fi Rush didn't even get many players playing through game pass. Majority of players who did play bounced off it after couple hours. Ported to playstation and had no success. I mean come brothers, enough of this GP slander. Whether it's good or bad, Hi-Fi Rush success had zero causal by GP
We don't know if that would have actually happened or not. They were expanding their IP, Survival Horror with The Evil Within, Ghostwire going in a different perspective/ more action focused and Hi Fi Rush going in a completely different direction. Didn't feel like the studio was going anywhere. Hi fi rush, the hype around the Game may have been short lived but it was really well received and made GP look good. For many, even their first Tango Game. Ironically enough, the short lived life of Hi Fi is what GP creates. A new game comes out, its on the subscription service so everyone starts playing day 1 and in a couple weeks everyone is done already. The subscription by design makes Games iralevent very fast. If it was a Game that needed to be sold to survive? Well, everyone is talking about the Game and experiencing it at different times. Keeps the conversation and interest going 🙂
There is a whole in your arguments. Everyone is parroting the same thing. Gamepass isn't dumbing down games and they ain't making gaas.only If they were why is Gears 5, Hellbalde 2, Hi Fi rush and starfield. The blame is being put on Gamepass but they don't want to be specific. Bethesda are the one who closed the studio because Tango didn't want to make a Bethesda game they wanted their own ip
Hi fi rush and Stanfield were well already into development before XBOX became involved. Hellblade 2 looks sick bit also notice they have barely even been promoting it? Huge AAA exclusive, not even 10 days from Launch and nothing is happening. Gears 5 I never played but it does look awesome 👍🏼 My argument is not good Games can't exist but the importance of their success is drastically lowered. They don't need to ensure Hellblade 2 gets millions of sales and to also drive console sales, it simply needs to be good enough to make those who are already on Gamepass content for a bit.
@@GamingMyWholeLife Hellbalde has been in the limelight for a while now. I mean it's was announced alongside the Series X. There has been enough trailers for fans to be excited. But for Hellbalde the games doesn't necessarily need to be marketed like how a game like diablo 4. But about GP, the issue at hand here is the speculation around what it means to be success under GP. GP makes 300-400 m a month a split of that is used to secure and fund games. My guess is 70 funding and 30 profit. The link between tangos and Arkane closure isn't gamepass.
@@GamingMyWholeLife the answers lies in Bethesda practice. They have been pushing GAAS since 2014. 2014- ESO 2018-Fallout 76 2019- youngblood 2023-redfall. The new shift here is the need to licenced IP. Which is an upcoming emerging trend. Machine games were told to work on Indiana Jones Arkane Lyon to work on Blade Tango- Didn't want that, they wanted their own ip. So Bethesda didn't want to fund their games.
This is exactly why they are one of the biggest corporations in the world though cause they have the right mindset to allow it to happen. Making billions of dollars isn't something people with hearts are ever gonna do.
I disagree and you’re being dishonest you’re making it seems like these games are just straight up money maker and they just go in there and decide we’re gonna get rid of these Game. You’re making too much money and that’s a damn lie.
bro i just unsubbed from gamepass , they got a whole front page for trans and non binary games? like wtf does that have to do with games and why does it need to be in the front page? anyways the game selection is diluted asf at this point. it used to be worth it, they havent added anything good in months
The propaganda these companies push is inexcusable. I'm glad those that force social politics and more into Video Games are bleeding money right now. Hopefully they can learn before nothing remains of them. I've never been a fan of Game Pass in general. I don't judge those that do but as far as money is concerned, I think it's cheaper to wish list what we want and buy when the time is right. Heck, for those who don't complete Games too fast can likely buy what they want day 1.
ok you have no right saying game pass suck have you been there day one since 2017 ? since launch of gamepass i can say it suck now because i been with game pass since 2017 in 2017 and 2018 and 2019 game pass had good games all assassin creed games all devil may cry games few good new tittles was released too . but now it is just lame also do you play video games talking about gaming is popular thing too do i am good i am a varaity lets play channel i do all games on my channel if i like them . but us lets play channels are few not exploding
When I say Gamepass sucks, I don't mean it can't have good Games. Of course it does. My argument is its not good in general for new video games. It lowers expectations, drastically reduces sales and Microsoft has aggressively bought so many Third Party companies to fill it with. Microsoft has fired THOUSANDS of people during the past year because they have made so many poor decisions and now have closed 4 more studios. Apparently they will fire more people in the near future. Oh and yes, I have been playing games since the original Nintendo Console 😎 I have enjoyed the industry from the early days and care about what is best for the industry. You might think I'm an XBOX Hater, since ur new here but I would actually love it if xbox had heaps of exclusives and good games to be proud of.
You can rant all you want about how Game Pass kills but game pass is not wasting video game publishers today. The cost to develop video games in a market that is not growing. That’s what hurting developers. Are you going to say gamepass hurt them. What about Bungie did Game Pass hurt them? Sony had trouble recouping cost for developing Spider-Man 2 was it game pass that hurt them. The problem all publishers are facing is cost. It’s increasingly more expensive to develop a game that price increased to $70 doesn’t even come close to generating enough revenue to cover the cost of developing a AAA video game. The cost of everything has gone up from the cost of what you pay workers to the cost of health insurance to the cost of renting of facility where you might do your work or the cost of taxes you might pay if you own the building, even to the cost of paying for an engine if you don’t have something that’s proprietary. If you have to hire voice actors, guess what you have to pay them more. It’s the cost that’s killing people now it’s the lack of a growing market. That’s killing them now. Don’t get mad at Xbox for doing the smart thing and cutting the dead weight. you couldn’t never make another evil because if you did, you would not recoup the cost of making that game. If you don’t believe me, pick another horror franchise, we love Dead Space which just happens to be on Game Pass right now and ask yourself. Why aren’t we getting a sequel? Is it because the game is on Game Pass? No it’s because the game didn’t sell enough. It’s because the money they spent developing the game and the money they made back on revenue did not generate enough profit, it isn’t the fault of Game Pass. It’s the fact that we don’t have enough people purchasing games in the current market and it cost too much to make these games. Rant all you want, but you need to point your finger in the right direction.
Sounds like you have bought into the lie that has been getting pushed for a long time now and instead of questioning the greedier publishers out there, you instead are defending them - which in turn will lead them to never learn amd continuing to fail financially. Yes, Spider Man 2 had a massive budget and that impacts how much of a profit they will make, if any. That Game also implemented a lot of modern day politics and made numerous changes that many fans did not like and so never bought the Game. Why do I bring up the above statement? If a publisher invests too much money money into a Game (200 million or whatever) than they need to make that back PLUS profit to warrant the investment. Thats a lot of pressure on a Game, before its even released. Now, you would think to achieve insane sales, that they would try to prioritise the Game itself and try create a Game as many people as possible can enjoy? No, they isolated a large section of their fan base in many ways and they voted with their wallets. And thats just one example of publishers wanting too much return on an investment, while also not even prioritising the Game itself and its fans. Funny how anyone else making a Indie, AA or even AAA does absolutely fine financially, if they don't get greedy and actually put the Game first 🤔🥳
I stopped my PS Plus Subscription the moment they raised the price but also its still very different to gamepass. Its not taking sony exclusives day one and stopping their own game sales
@@GamingMyWholeLife Same here, haven’t been subscribed to Plus since they raised prices. Don’t get those that say Gamepass is better than Plus either, they both operate completely differently
Ever since Microsoft closed Tango, i’ve been in a “fuck Microsoft” type of mood. Tango being closed hurts the most out of all the closures. It’s a shame we’ll likely never see an Evil Within 3, or a Ghostwire sequel.
Yep, I'm with you there. It just doesn't make any sense. They closed a studio with a popular gamepass Game and talent that is proving and can add value to the brand.
Looks like I meed to reply the evil within once again because looks like no point waiting for a third entry ...
Hello my friend,
I completely agree with you and you know how supportive of Xbox I was at the beginning. I was really enthusiastic and I kept defending them when people were criticizing them, I don't mean to make it all about myself here, but they made me look stupid for defending them and now I have to eat crow.
I saw so much potential in these smaller acquisitions, but then they had to get greedy and bought Bethesda, I was still OK with it, but then there was the whole Activision/Blizzard deal that took all the attention of the fans. They already had good studios with a lot of potential, and all we could talk about was that stupid deal. We've received nothing but bad news since then.
I was imagining all those great games coming out, with smaller talented studios like Obsidian, InXile, Compulsion Games,... and we received next to nothing. I'm looking forward to Avowed, we'll see how it does.
I'm so disappointed, I'm glad I still am primarily a Nintendo gamer and have a PS5 now.
I still love my Xbox Series S and had a blast with it. I played great games such as the Halo games that I discovered with it, Wasteland 3, Tales of Arise,... so I will keep fond memories of it, but I don't believe in the future of the brand anymore. To finish this comment, Sarah Bond was painful to listen to, she seemed like she knew she was talking nonsense but had to, her words said one thing, her face and her body language said another, completely different. It reminded me of the moments I had an exam, knew I didn't know anything, but tried to give stupid answers to the teacher to grab a few points, while feeling completely stupid.
Hey friend!!
Those were fun and optimistic times 🥳 I enjoyed talking about the potential of XBOX during those days with you and I came so very close to buying the console myself 🙂 I was actually thinking of you, when I mentioned the Series S is a great little console, as I know you have enjoyed it a lot!
I'm just getting tired of watching all these companies making huge mistakes, that to me feel really obvious. It never occured to them that buying the Studios is only step one, but now they need to think they need to keep paying them to make Games? I actually mentioned that point in my last XBOX focused video and it turns out Microsoft had not done the math to keep the studios going.... How they could spent close to 100 Billion in total and didn't do the Math... 😵
I think the success of last generation made many companies too confident in Video Games. Not recognising the tallent & time needed to make good Games, thinking if they threw enough money it would just work out.
I think this year will be remembered by the greedy publishers as a lesson. Hopefully good Games can become the priority once again and people can keep their jobs 🙂
Also yes, I was also imagining wonderful and unique Games to come out. Instead they mostly bought developers who were known for third party support across all platforms.
@@GamingMyWholeLife Hey my friend!
Sorry for the late reply.
That's right, I have quite fond memories of those times, and it was also nice for me to talk about that with you. When I got the console I was having a blast at the beginning, and I still am to a degree, that's why I don't regret getting it. Oh cool, that's nice, I appreciate that and you mentioning the Series S even more now.
Yes, you are completely right. They spent so much money but now we want to see the results and we are only getting bad news. Yes, I remember your video, it was good. I think they became too powerful and greedy and lost sight of what's really important, the games and the gamers.
Yes, that might be a reason. I would say that that was the case of Playstation but I'm not sure that really applies to Xbox to be honest, even though I understand where you are coming from. I think you nailed it in your last video, they are just too rich and don't have enough reason to worry about that.
Yes, the thing is, it will turn off smaller publishers from accepting big offers like Microsoft did. I'm sure many of the newly acquired Xbox studios now are afraid and uncertain about the future.
That's right, we both did and they disappointed us. The thing is, I don't regret it, I remember your video on hype as well. Even though we are disappointed now, the good time we had talking about the possible future of Xbox was still a good time and I don't regret it.
Letting people play games for free is always a good way of ruining them and lowering metascores. People do not feel towards games they get to play for free, there is no commitment, hence they never really get the true mettle of any games they play on gamepass. Free stuff always feels meh when compared to stuff you paid full price for.
They tried to buy solutions to all their problems and its clearly not working. Xbox just needs some good exclusive games to make them stand out. Instead, they spent Billions buying companies that were Third Party anyway and would have ended up on the Xbox consoles without the need to buy them
Exactly, it makes zero sense
Meanwhile, Fornite...
Yeah, turns out it doesn't matter how much you pay for a game lol you could actually make a metric fuckton off a free game.
😂 I got angry when Microsoft brought Bethesda, and now there still making people angry....well done Microsoft
They certainly are consistent and not in the right areas, lol.
Let’s suppose Microsoft did not purchase Bethesda what was going to happen? The same thing that’s happening right now perhaps even worse. Remember they didn’t buy, but when the company was high on the hog, they bought the company when it was on a down turn trying to figure out how to make money. If they hadn’t purchased Bethesda, you would’ve seen these layoffs come and worse. Too many people act as if Microsoft caused all of this damage and that’s not true. The companies they purchased were in trouble to begin with they needed the money.
@@jermelpurse3018 I only got angry with the thought of a possible fallout psvr2 rumour being crushed, although it was only a rumour it still had this simpleton worried, also I'm shocked there's no Skyrim psvr2 yet? That was amazing on psvr1, I'm sure customers would be happy with a straight over port version with better movement controls.
@@jermelpurse3018ru serious 😂😂😂😂 gamepass, the buying publishers etc all played a part in this..
@@jermelpurse3018that maybe true for Arkane Austin, but not for Tango.
It seems that the gaming industry's primary concern is profit, which could lead to a crash at the top end. Our best chance of keeping gaming alive lies with AA games and indie developers. Instead of relying on idiots who don't play or purchase games, companies should reach out to registered player accounts through surveys to understand what games they truly want to play. Additionally, it's important to recognize that not every game can cater to everyone's tastes; people have different preferences when it comes to genres of games.
I agree and I think profit as the number one Goal is totally fine.
What astounds me is the many poor decisions, that lead to failure and makes sure the profit is rather poor or none existent.
Surveys are a great idea, CAPCOM has been using that lately and I think Publishers should listen to what fans want, as opposed to trends.
That last statement you made is very important and accurate.
Because they inflate their own budgets too much (I have no Sympathy in that regard, because if they spend 200 Million on a Game, it's because they think they will get even more back). So due to this greed, they have to aim for everyone, while pleasing no one. Focused Games knowing their Target Audience normally kill it ! 😃
This might be the last year for Game Pass as we know it today
I think the day 1 aspect is actually the most destructive aspect, even if that is what is the best part as well.
If Games still needed to perform good at launch at least and the motivation/ Requirement of releasing good Games is still the overall goal ~ this could have worked.
Hellblade 2 launched today or the reviews are at least out.
Most will not buy and since everyone has access day 1, it's a short 8 hour game that will be already forgotten a fortnight from now sadly
I agree with you on this too , because Xbox just lost me as a customer as soon as they said they're getting rid the physical copies of games and Sony loss me as a customer when don't care about they're history of games I do like on the older consoles. But I'm a retro gamer so I went back playing the classics
Sometimes we just need to take a break from Games and enjoy the older ones for a bit. I love replaying older Games and sometimes newer Games get me excited 🙂
@@GamingMyWholeLife exactly what I was thinking. Thank you
How would you all feel if Capcom bought Evil Within franchise?
Bro Evil Within is a dead franchise. The sequel had less than a million sales, that's awful
@@Mmachine88 😞SMH
Hmm I'm not sure. It would be in better hands compared to Microsoft but that series did have a very different feeling to the Resident Evil Games.
If they did, I would hope they hire shinji to at least over look things.
The 2nd Game was fun but tried too hard to please critics of the first Game and lost a bit of the magic ✨
Correct. People are too shortsighted. Netflix was great too when it was the only streaming service and had everything for about $8.99 a month (that's what it was when I first subscribed around 2009 or so), but now the top Netflix plan is like $22 or $24 (they've raised the price twice in the last year) and it's one of a multitude of other streaming services that cumulatively add up to more than cable was.
At absolute best, GamePass basically becomes a streaming monopoly and they jack up the price massively to make the license agreements to have games on it sustainable. At worst, GamePass becomes one of 10 other streaming services you have to subscribe to if you want to stream all the games.
Buying games during a Steam sale might cost more depending on how many games you buy and at how deep a discount, but the games are yours forever, and you don't have to worry about a game being rotated out of the service mid playthrough and such. The same analog is basically true for buying / ripping Blu-Rays for something like Jellyfin / Emby / Plex versus paying subscription fees for the rest of your life.
Love those steam sales 😃
Like, we are screwed if steam ever shuts down but otherwise yes, I think its great.
I just never liked the business strategy that XBOX has been going with. I've had some hypothesis around it all and it all seems to be playing out as I feared.
@@GamingMyWholeLife Yeah. Valve being a private company (and thus not having any shareholders to be beholden to) helps a lot when it comes to putting my trust in them, as does their history of being pro consumer.
Still,I’ve got around 1100 Steam games at this point, so it would be nice if I could will them to somebody when I die lmao.
Imagine how many good games can be made with those 80 billion, but nah let's give it to naughty old man Bobby. I still can't believe the deal go through. It's a blatant attempt at monopoly. I even heard son of the judge is working for Ms. How is that not a blatant conflict of interest? Now it's past then we're seeing the consequences. I guess the fool will soon part with their money, in this case the billion spent returns nothing.
The funniest part is these Billions were spent on third party developers.... Meaning, if they did NOT buy Bethesda, XBOX fans would have still got to play starfield and the next elder scrolls Games 😂
The money was not even spent to buy exclusive games and experiences.
I enjoyed The evil within game's was hoping for a 3rd game. Never had any interest in the Xbox consoles . Microsoft have made some really bad decisions. Your right about the cost of some game's in Australia $130 for me is too much , I usually wait for a sale.
Its an insult and I'm sure they loose more money in the long run from people refusing to buy 😑
Glad you enjoyed The Evil Within series!! Looove the Games and especially the first entry 🥳
@RAM_845 I know what you mean. Sometimes theres a big sale and its still costs a lot. I still have not bought GT7 because the base price is too high and even on sale, costs waay too much.
Mikami left a while ago.
Xbox and Sony had been saying IP & Blockbuster for so long, it is not surprise they just want the IP, not the studios.
As much as people say they don't know what gamers want, people still pay enough for them to make such decision.
What they want from innovative studio is the next Minecraft, next WoW, next LoL, Next Genshin Impact etc.
Not Hi-Fi Rush that win the fame from hardcore gamers, while nothing for the majority casual gamers.
Hi fi rush was well into development and close to release before Microsoft took anything over. So they don't get credit for that and it was very well received, where players praise it to this day. It make GP look good but clearly, Microsoft has not known what they are doing for a while now.
They should have had them working on the next evil within game, can an exclusive survival horror game not available anywhere else
Ive been whatever about the closures but this one actually hurts. They could have had by far the best new survival horror series to come out in the last decade continue exclusively under them.
So much wasted potential and yeah, Xbox could have had an ace up their sleeve with them.
I'm just tired of seeing Games fail and developers going under, making obvious mistakes.
Any company actually focused on making the best game they can are killing it
It's a shame that tango couldn't update evil within 1 for steam, gog and console versions with gamepass/microsoft store update. (Gamepass has alot more content and new stuff than other versions)
Really? What editions does the Ganepass version have??
When I first saw your video in quarantine about survival horror from Tango Gameworks isn't gone, I was actually hyped. Now that this happened, Idk if I will ever find another good survival horror game like the evil within. I think I also heard that Shinji Mikami is in another studio now. I'm not sure if it was confirmed news, but if so, I hope we can get a good survival horror game from there.
Sadly it's true, Shinji was no longer part of Tango at the time of the closure.
Tbh, we have to appreciate The Evil Within Series for the rare series that it was
and likely will never be again.
Even Indies are doing more with Survival Horror than AAA Devs these days ☹
I'm always keeping an eye out and if anything great is on the Horizon,
I'll def do a vid on it to draw attention
The Evil Within Dead? I was never interested in This game but guess what? With the news of The studio closing I am now playing the game. The same with Hifi rush I will play it once I'm done with The Evil Within. Sometimes something has to die for people to pay attention to their work.
True I also want to pick up the games....
Yesh that often happens. Like when someone passes aeay and suddenly we feel compelled to check out the movies they were in
The evil within is an underrated Series, the first entry agreed by most to be the best Game
When PlayStation came out and said gamepass isn’t successful and its business model would fail at Sony, they were right. They were absolutely right.
They were def right in this case.
Shame Sony got greedy and messed up their own online offerings, lol.
I can think of a number of ways Xbox could have made GP more success
I was really looking forward to an evil within 3. They need games on xbox for the brand and they hacked the team with the best reviewed xbox game last year. That tweet they made about hi-fi rush was an ad, they didn't believe their own words. Dishonored, evil within, prey?? No more wtf
Anyone interested in making good Games, doesn't close down a company that was proven to know how to make good Games.
I'm thinking there won't even be a next generation for XBOX at this stage. There focus seems to be elsewhere and have completely given up trying to be relevant to Nintendo or Sony. Disappointing to say the least
The silver lining might be that maybe these talented developers might make their own banger indie games. ✨ It happens.
Very true and it certainly does happen 🙂
Idk ive never payed a cent for the yakuza series because i always got it on the game pass. Yakuza 0-7, Yakuza: Ishin and Yakuza the name who erased his name for free lmao
I do need go buy one of those Games and try it out!
It really is so bad. Low quality junk is literally 98% of the game pass content. The games just dont justify the subscription fee.
I just think Microsoft is making such poor financial decisions and killing countless studios in the process. They really should have never started buying others out. They can afford to make their own things
There has always been good and bad games. I used to rent games from blockbuster to see if I liked the game. I have a series s for game pass and is perfect to try out all kinds of different games. Some games I like and some I don’t like starfield. These days I always buy games on sale for my Xbox and ps5. There seems to be more bad games than good ones.
Good Old Blockbuster. A PS1 Game I'm playing at the moment still has the blockbuster sticker on it 🙂
One grim lesson from all of this is that these megacorporations are not meritocratic institutions... something worth bearing in mind, especially when dealing with their apologists.
where does meritocracy even exist?
i mean where does it *really* exist
@@WeeWeeJumbo China has a long tradition of meritocracy, with the mandarins being chosen on the basis of examinations. Though the mandarins are in the past, contemporary China seems to have a strong meritocratic strain.
The open-source community is also meritocratic for obvious reasons.
3:12 the "one day the dream will end" soundtrack you added was right on point
Timing was accidental but I love when that happens Nyehehe
@@GamingMyWholeLife no way! I thought you actually did that on purpose. Either way it was cool coincidence
i wish every one of these videos would remind us all, every time, that Game Pass could never have been sustainable, and was simply a way to smother Xbox competition under money, rather than becoming truly great or viable in the long term. Game Pass was a stunt and so was ABK/Bethesda. neither one brought Xbox any closer to greatness.
*there’s no shortcut to greatness.*
No shortcut to greatness, exactly!! They are not even trying to make great Games and they should be. Talk about using their money in a way no one wanted
😔maybe another studio will make an evil within 3
.... 😔Just like another studio made new Halo, and Fable
It could happen or maybe someone tries to buy the IP from Microsoft?
So sad 🥺
Yeah it is sad that they closed down Tango gamework that made Hi-fi rush and the evil within 1 and 2 that I both play and beat that I own the second one on steam.
But damn it is sad that we won't get a third the evil within and a second one all thanks to microsoft that I decide to play the evil within 2 again on steam as a respect
For Tango gameworks death and same goes for the evil within franchise.
I'll also be replaying The Evil Within Games. Sometimes game series don't continue and so we need to appreciate what we did get to enjoy.
Maybe another team will do it one day or someone else buys the rights 😲
I just got game pass core, mostly for online and deals & discounts for GAMES TO BUY.
The whole gamepass core thing was a scam to inflate they numbers
@@weplayvrgames indeed.
Evil within series was pretty good beat both games. The series had potential. Sadly Microsoft shut that down. Xbox needs to start making sense
Such a fantastic series. The first especially, was a work of art. The pacing, tone story and even the graphics still look gorgeous in my eyes. The depth of field worked especially well with adding to the moody atmosphere 🥳
Just a giant waste of time xbox will buyout all big publishers just for the devs to leave after making a game they didnt want to
They have become the new EA...
Where are hi fi rush sales?
Don't know, look it up if ur interested. I was discussing the public reception of it on Gamepass
I say it from the day one, It is a bad idea for business!
Its too expensive to upkeep as well. Have to keep adding new content
Game pass for PC games don't work half as well as steam versions do...Fuck MS I am ready to cancel game pass as a result.
Carefully bought Games on STEAM during a sale is honestly cheaper than paying Gamepass in my opinion.
That said, I don't want to shame anyone for enjoying the service, I just don't believe it results in the best Games possible, which to me should always be the Goal.
Also just mad at Microsoft, confirming my Theory they don't care about good Games. Such a waste of potential
Best answer go private and crowd fund is the only way you'll ever see your vision
Look at Robert's space aka star citizen they have been stealing crowd source cash for years now and will never release a product
So go that route but plz ship your product
I would actually love to crowd fund a Game someday. Aim small, get the experience and prove myself with time old school style 😎
they bought studios so that itll be lessen for them to compete creating game they even try to buy nintendo
Thank goodness that never happened. It would literally kill Nintendo
I hate xbox who support gamepass..
U know gamepass will destroy. Gaming industry make quantity over quality.. microsoft is parasite in gaming industry.. while sony tried so hard make quality game with limited money..
At the moment they are sucking a lot. Hopefully they can get their act together.
Sony was much better last generation, hopefully they can get back to focusing on quality Games again
The evil within 3 will b made by a different studio
Nothing of that sort has been confirmed sadly
Dude absolutely devastated!🤬
I know you were a big fan as well!! Such upsetting news 🥺
I was thinking about you recently, since I have not seen you around much. I know you have some health issues that come up, I hope your doing okay Mate!! 🙂
@@GamingMyWholeLife One of favourite games dude😫 I'm not too well at the moment unfortunately having problems with old surgery wounds Hope You're keeping well yourself my friend 👍🏻
I'm sorry to hear that Mate!! I hope things get better for you and you experience improvement.
Not having a great day myself, some old problems have returned and so I'm struggling a bit but otherwise I'm doing well 🙂 If only I could report on Soul Reaver coming back, that would help put you in a better mood 😃
@@GamingMyWholeLife Thanks George I appreciate that my friend! I'm keeping positive! Im fighting the good fight! I'm sorry that you are going through a difficult time. I hope that things will get better for you my friend!🙂👍
For me western games have been most garbage and Asian games are where I m havin a lot of fun
Yeah it seems to have been like that for a long time now. If I think of my favourite devs, all Asian and especially Japan
I'm gonna be honest, and yall are not gonna like this, but .. Zenimax were 100% going to close Tango if Xbox dis not acquire Bethesda. Majority of Tango Games do not sell well. Hi-Fi Rush didn't even get many players playing through game pass. Majority of players who did play bounced off it after couple hours.
Ported to playstation and had no success. I mean come brothers, enough of this GP slander. Whether it's good or bad, Hi-Fi Rush success had zero causal by GP
We don't know if that would have actually happened or not. They were expanding their IP, Survival Horror with The Evil Within, Ghostwire going in a different perspective/ more action focused and Hi Fi Rush going in a completely different direction. Didn't feel like the studio was going anywhere.
Hi fi rush, the hype around the Game may have been short lived but it was really well received and made GP look good. For many, even their first Tango Game.
Ironically enough, the short lived life of Hi Fi is what GP creates. A new game comes out, its on the subscription service so everyone starts playing day 1 and in a couple weeks everyone is done already. The subscription by design makes Games iralevent very fast.
If it was a Game that needed to be sold to survive? Well, everyone is talking about the Game and experiencing it at different times. Keeps the conversation and interest going 🙂
There is a whole in your arguments. Everyone is parroting the same thing.
Gamepass isn't dumbing down games and they ain't making gaas.only
If they were why is Gears 5, Hellbalde 2, Hi Fi rush and starfield.
The blame is being put on Gamepass but they don't want to be specific.
Bethesda are the one who closed the studio because Tango didn't want to make a Bethesda game they wanted their own ip
Hi fi rush and Stanfield were well already into development before XBOX became involved.
Hellblade 2 looks sick bit also notice they have barely even been promoting it? Huge AAA exclusive, not even 10 days from Launch and nothing is happening.
Gears 5 I never played but it does look awesome 👍🏼
My argument is not good Games can't exist but the importance of their success is drastically lowered. They don't need to ensure Hellblade 2 gets millions of sales and to also drive console sales, it simply needs to be good enough to make those who are already on Gamepass content for a bit.
That last comment sounds interesting. Has bethesda or tango made any official statements to support that?
@@GamingMyWholeLife Hellbalde has been in the limelight for a while now. I mean it's was announced alongside the Series X.
There has been enough trailers for fans to be excited.
But for Hellbalde the games doesn't necessarily need to be marketed like how a game like diablo 4.
But about GP, the issue at hand here is the speculation around what it means to be success under GP.
GP makes 300-400 m a month a split of that is used to secure and fund games. My guess is 70 funding and 30 profit.
The link between tangos and Arkane closure isn't gamepass.
@@GamingMyWholeLife the answers lies in Bethesda practice.
They have been pushing GAAS since 2014.
2014- ESO
2018-Fallout 76
2019- youngblood
2023-redfall.
The new shift here is the need to licenced IP. Which is an upcoming emerging trend.
Machine games were told to work on Indiana Jones
Arkane Lyon to work on Blade
Tango- Didn't want that, they wanted their own ip. So Bethesda didn't want to fund their games.
You didn’t know the evil within is dead you just figured that out can’t you see the evil within 3 hasn’t got a release date yet
The possibility of a The Evil Within 3 is now dead. I never said there was an announcement or release date you silly 😛
Microsega
One of the biggest corporations on the planet cares primarily about making money, big shock
This is exactly why they are one of the biggest corporations in the world though cause they have the right mindset to allow it to happen. Making billions of dollars isn't something people with hearts are ever gonna do.
The big shock is how bad they have been with money.
I disagree and you’re being dishonest you’re making it seems like these games are just straight up money maker and they just go in there and decide we’re gonna get rid of these Game. You’re making too much money and that’s a damn lie.
I didn't lie about anything and if you think I made a lot of money from this video, shows you know nothing about how much RUclipsrs actually make 😂
@@GamingMyWholeLife It’s just mad bots lol. Their comments are hilarious to read
bro i just unsubbed from gamepass , they got a whole front page for trans and non binary games? like wtf does that have to do with games and why does it need to be in the front page? anyways the game selection is diluted asf at this point. it used to be worth it, they havent added anything good in months
The propaganda these companies push is inexcusable. I'm glad those that force social politics and more into Video Games are bleeding money right now. Hopefully they can learn before nothing remains of them.
I've never been a fan of Game Pass in general. I don't judge those that do but as far as money is concerned, I think it's cheaper to wish list what we want and buy when the time is right.
Heck, for those who don't complete Games too fast can likely buy what they want day 1.
ok you have no right saying game pass suck have you been there day one since 2017 ? since launch of gamepass i can say it suck now because i been with game pass since 2017 in 2017 and 2018 and 2019 game pass had good games all assassin creed games all devil may cry games few good new tittles was released too . but now it is just lame also do you play video games talking about gaming is popular thing too do i am good i am a varaity lets play channel i do all games on my channel if i like them . but us lets play channels are few not exploding
When I say Gamepass sucks, I don't mean it can't have good Games. Of course it does.
My argument is its not good in general for new video games. It lowers expectations, drastically reduces sales and Microsoft has aggressively bought so many Third Party companies to fill it with.
Microsoft has fired THOUSANDS of people during the past year because they have made so many poor decisions and now have closed 4 more studios. Apparently they will fire more people in the near future.
Oh and yes, I have been playing games since the original Nintendo Console 😎 I have enjoyed the industry from the early days and care about what is best for the industry.
You might think I'm an XBOX Hater, since ur new here but I would actually love it if xbox had heaps of exclusives and good games to be proud of.
Lmao what kinda flawed logic is this. People can’t say Gamepass sucks if they weren’t there day one in 2017? 😂
You can rant all you want about how Game Pass kills but game pass is not wasting video game publishers today. The cost to develop video games in a market that is not growing. That’s what hurting developers. Are you going to say gamepass hurt them. What about Bungie did Game Pass hurt them? Sony had trouble recouping cost for developing Spider-Man 2 was it game pass that hurt them. The problem all publishers are facing is cost. It’s increasingly more expensive to develop a game that price increased to $70 doesn’t even come close to generating enough revenue to cover the cost of developing a AAA video game. The cost of everything has gone up from the cost of what you pay workers to the cost of health insurance to the cost of renting of facility where you might do your work or the cost of taxes you might pay if you own the building, even to the cost of paying for an engine if you don’t have something that’s proprietary. If you have to hire voice actors, guess what you have to pay them more. It’s the cost that’s killing people now it’s the lack of a growing market. That’s killing them now. Don’t get mad at Xbox for doing the smart thing and cutting the dead weight. you couldn’t never make another evil because if you did, you would not recoup the cost of making that game. If you don’t believe me, pick another horror franchise, we love Dead Space which just happens to be on Game Pass right now and ask yourself. Why aren’t we getting a sequel? Is it because the game is on Game Pass? No it’s because the game didn’t sell enough. It’s because the money they spent developing the game and the money they made back on revenue did not generate enough profit, it isn’t the fault of Game Pass. It’s the fact that we don’t have enough people purchasing games in the current market and it cost too much to make these games.
Rant all you want, but you need to point your finger in the right direction.
Sounds like you have bought into the lie that has been getting pushed for a long time now and instead of questioning the greedier publishers out there, you instead are defending them - which in turn will lead them to never learn amd continuing to fail financially.
Yes, Spider Man 2 had a massive budget and that impacts how much of a profit they will make, if any. That Game also implemented a lot of modern day politics and made numerous changes that many fans did not like and so never bought the Game.
Why do I bring up the above statement? If a publisher invests too much money money into a Game (200 million or whatever) than they need to make that back PLUS profit to warrant the investment. Thats a lot of pressure on a Game, before its even released. Now, you would think to achieve insane sales, that they would try to prioritise the Game itself and try create a Game as many people as possible can enjoy? No, they isolated a large section of their fan base in many ways and they voted with their wallets.
And thats just one example of publishers wanting too much return on an investment, while also not even prioritising the Game itself and its fans.
Funny how anyone else making a Indie, AA or even AAA does absolutely fine financially, if they don't get greedy and actually put the Game first 🤔🥳
Why Microsoft have more money than pony & Nintendo combine
Even with all the money Microsoft has it seems their poor choices are starting to catch up with them finally
Microsoft certainly does, Xbox on it’s own however…
Gamepass at its worst is better than PS Plus,,,
Nobody mentioned PS Plus lmao.
I stopped my PS Plus Subscription the moment they raised the price but also its still very different to gamepass. Its not taking sony exclusives day one and stopping their own game sales
@@GamingMyWholeLife Same here, haven’t been subscribed to Plus since they raised prices. Don’t get those that say Gamepass is better than Plus either, they both operate completely differently