Crossfire MkI: A Creature from the AWB Lagoon

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  • @kingryan69
    @kingryan69 4 года назад +1430

    you know a gun sucks when a shooter leaves rounds in the mag and says "im done"

    • @dsandoval9396
      @dsandoval9396 4 года назад +48

      LOL! Underrated comment.

    • @AmalekIsComing
      @AmalekIsComing 2 года назад +5

      Yeah

    • @bobbob4038
      @bobbob4038 2 года назад

      I would like to say the AR barrel is exposed and rests on top of the shooters wrist. And is also taking a beating from the pump action. If/when that barrel explodes your going to loose a hand, or at the very least a lot of blood.
      ruclips.net/video/oEV15uVnhG4/видео.html&ab_channel=FTV

  • @entrippyZ
    @entrippyZ 5 лет назад +2123

    I got this pump action assault rifle to use when my bolt action chain revolver jams

    • @FreeAimDog
      @FreeAimDog 5 лет назад +95

      lmao a bolt action revolver sounds like the most complicated gun ever

    • @FuzedBox
      @FuzedBox 5 лет назад +119

      @@FreeAimDog It'd be a helluva lot simpler than the insane clockwork in the G11.

    • @armintor2826
      @armintor2826 4 года назад +59

      Good thing but you gotta bring your drum mag musket too

    • @NerfRhett
      @NerfRhett 4 года назад +32

      Don’t forget your full auto bow and arrow

    • @4T3hM4kr0n
      @4T3hM4kr0n 4 года назад +18

      @@armintor2826 drum mag musket...that actually sounds kinda cool

  • @JamesPawson
    @JamesPawson 7 лет назад +2097

    I love when Ian shows stuff that sucks. There should be a "Sub-optimal Firearms" playlist.

    • @RilsR
      @RilsR 5 лет назад +215

      "Wish they could be Forgotten Weapons."

    • @8ight8ight12
      @8ight8ight12 5 лет назад +196

      "Forgotten for a reason Weapons"

    • @Dreadnought_Toaster
      @Dreadnought_Toaster 5 лет назад +94

      Thankfully forgotten weapons

    • @edgydoggo8647
      @edgydoggo8647 5 лет назад +25

      I know I'm late to the party, but What Weapons

    • @MB-yk1qk
      @MB-yk1qk 4 года назад +25

      @@edgydoggo8647 I think you mean "Whaaaaattt?"- Wepons.

  • @kirkmooneyham
    @kirkmooneyham 5 лет назад +1021

    All you need to do is carry one of those Zip .22s along with that Crossfire, and you're all set!

    • @broughswenson651
      @broughswenson651 4 года назад +5

      Kirk Mooneyham haha, I said the same thing! 😂

    • @AtlasJotun
      @AtlasJotun 4 года назад +42

      Mount the Zip to the forearm. Ultimate Zip Operator. No bayonet lug though, so the gun's clearly not worthy of a Zip Op.

    • @everythingsalright1121
      @everythingsalright1121 4 года назад +18

      dont forget your cobray terminator

    • @harryfisher1272
      @harryfisher1272 4 года назад

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @CAAStudios
      @CAAStudios 4 года назад +13

      You can mount the zip gun on the picitanny under the slide. You should probably keep a cobray terminator as a backup.

  • @big_pingu
    @big_pingu 5 лет назад +846

    Imagine making a gun with a buttstock magazine that functions a billion times worse than the spencer carbine.
    Now imagine you make that in the late 1990s

    • @ianfinrir8724
      @ianfinrir8724 2 года назад +6

      I mean, the Spencer worked, though.

    • @InvidiousIgnoramus
      @InvidiousIgnoramus 2 года назад +11

      @@ianfinrir8724 Hence, "worse than the spencer carbine"

  • @Calum_S
    @Calum_S 7 лет назад +1178

    I think this would be best forgotten

    • @tillmannfischer
      @tillmannfischer 7 лет назад +58

      Actually, I think the concept pretty interesting if it were better refined. Especially if the rifle and shotgun part were better accessible by making the rifle part semi-auto instead of this rubbish.

    • @vguyver2
      @vguyver2 7 лет назад +10

      Mirdarion I agree. They tried to work around its design with some interesting solutions. Yet, its such a painful gun to see in action with all its shortcomings.

    • @riverstyxarmory9782
      @riverstyxarmory9782 7 лет назад +30

      Calum Spencer no, never forget someone else's failure. if we forget, we'll try to remake this...

    • @bfpaul1
      @bfpaul1 7 лет назад +5

      not a gun expert on any level but id agree,could of made atleast the pump cycle length shorter or easier and changing between fire modes easier atleast.

    • @riverstyxarmory9782
      @riverstyxarmory9782 7 лет назад +5

      Gryffin DarkBreed the concept is odd. during the AWB someone could have just bought a better functioning pump shotgun and a bolt action .223. nowadays It'd say Mossberg 500/Rem 870 and Mossberg Patrol .223 for an AWB. unless there is a good reason to have 2 firearms in one integrated unit like this.

  • @PhantomSavage
    @PhantomSavage 4 года назад +625

    This would actually be neat and potentially useful if it were actually semi-auto and manufactured..... better.

    • @ofidiotabagista5259
      @ofidiotabagista5259 4 года назад +51

      It's a cool concept. I would surely buy one if it worked as intended.

    • @placeandthink8728
      @placeandthink8728 3 года назад +11

      The AR-15

    • @paulpolito2001
      @paulpolito2001 3 года назад +12

      Closed, intricate “swap” mechanism buried it, for me, even as a novelty type gun. Add in the fact that its built around one of the more insidious and dumb laws... meh.

    • @sirerkel7901
      @sirerkel7901 3 года назад +4

      It would find customers in the police market I think. Maybe separate triggers and just change the ar bit to semi auto to save on weight

    • @imperialbricks1977
      @imperialbricks1977 3 года назад +1

      Oh my God why are you here?!?

  • @mbe102
    @mbe102 7 лет назад +2160

    They should call this the peanut butter shotgun. Because it really likes the jam.

  • @TreyWait
    @TreyWait 5 лет назад +408

    I can't believe you rested that widow maker on your foot. That's probably the only guaranteed time it's likely to cycle and fire properly.

    • @crazypath573
      @crazypath573 4 года назад +22

      There was nothing in the gun at that point.

    • @NoNameAtAll2
      @NoNameAtAll2 4 года назад +98

      @CRAZY PATH
      that's what the weapon wants you to think

    • @jussayinmipeece1069
      @jussayinmipeece1069 2 года назад +11

      @@crazypath573 thats what hop along Joe said too.

    • @Narcan885
      @Narcan885 2 года назад +9

      @@crazypath573 "There was nothing in the gun at that point." Said by ANYONE that accidentally discharged into his own body or a nearby friend's.

  • @QruisS
    @QruisS 4 года назад +285

    "Assault rifles are banned"
    "This is a shotgun though"
    "Oh, sorry. Please go ahead."

    • @damondiehl5637
      @damondiehl5637 4 года назад +8

      And fuck you, California, with your large capacity magazine ban!

    • @draconisthewyvern3664
      @draconisthewyvern3664 4 года назад +5

      you know if the gun wasn’t pump action reloading i could see it working out.
      or give the rifle section of the gun it’s own mechanism

    • @InfernosReaper
      @InfernosReaper 3 года назад +4

      @@draconisthewyvern3664 Hell, even if it was just bolt-action, it'd still be a massive improvement

    • @reedr1659
      @reedr1659 3 года назад +1

      ATF: That? Were not concerned about that. Go right ahead.

  • @shoominati23
    @shoominati23 7 лет назад +493

    Forsaken weapons?

  • @556deltawolf
    @556deltawolf 7 лет назад +227

    Okay this thing looks like someone took an AR-15, a G3, and a mossberge 500, put it in a blender and hit "Mix" but forgot to put the top on.

    • @greymajickjedi
      @greymajickjedi 6 лет назад +3

      Like a someone took a G3, a Maverick and an AR magazine
      AND PEED ON IT.

  • @jacobishii6121
    @jacobishii6121 5 лет назад +399

    That's a whole lot of movement to cycle a .223 round lol

  • @DragonArcadia
    @DragonArcadia 5 лет назад +326

    This gun should be called Bob Marley, because it always be jammin’.

  • @colearmoryllc
    @colearmoryllc 3 года назад +60

    I was an original orderer for the 12ga/308 version after year and years of delay I received information that they weren’t coming out with the 308 version but a 223. So I went ahead and purchased and waited another year to receive my rifle. Well to my surprise that it did show up and it was pump action. Every issue you had operating that weapon was exactly the same
    I had with my weapon, including the Jams while not in battery. I thought it was operator error and it was put away for like 5 years. I finally just got rid of it. Terrible gun, terrible system, and this video just brings it all back.

  • @DoktorJeep
    @DoktorJeep 7 лет назад +618

    No more making fun of Keltec after seeing that gun.

    • @jasonarmstrong5750
      @jasonarmstrong5750 7 лет назад +27

      Doktor Jeep or Cobray

    • @realmenshoot3085
      @realmenshoot3085 7 лет назад +30

      Doktor Jeep Just because this is more shit doesn't make Kel-Tec less shit.

    • @pfitz9346
      @pfitz9346 7 лет назад +11

      Are we still hating on high point though?

    • @bensmith4563
      @bensmith4563 6 лет назад +37

      Pfitz at least a high point works

    • @spearspearspear
      @spearspearspear 6 лет назад +18

      Ok but keltecs are affordable and quality firearms.

  • @robnunya572
    @robnunya572 7 лет назад +177

    "Eww. Basically just eww."
    Ian, you owe me a new computer monitor.
    LMAO.

  • @jasonarmstrong5750
    @jasonarmstrong5750 7 лет назад +237

    retool that thing a bit and it would make for a great star wars blaster prop

    • @Feeshyenjoyer
      @Feeshyenjoyer 4 года назад +11

      It has a very much sci-fi look and would probably also make a good gun for a halo game

    • @gangsta74110
      @gangsta74110 4 года назад +4

      A big yes to both of these comments

    • @pguth98
      @pguth98 4 года назад +2

      That's about the most useful thing you can do with it.

  • @xostler
    @xostler 4 года назад +103

    *looking at thumbnail
    How tf does that work?
    *Sees first 10 seconds
    Oh it doesn’t...

  • @gustavmeyrink_2.0
    @gustavmeyrink_2.0 5 лет назад +57

    3:24 to be fair a folding stock would be hard to implement without a folding shotgun magazine.

  • @thelaughinghyenas7962
    @thelaughinghyenas7962 7 лет назад +51

    Ian,
    This could be the start or a whole new video series. "Forgettable Weapons." Those guns that have been forgotten for a very, very good reason.

    • @cadetrenew
      @cadetrenew 7 лет назад +1

      Jagannath Barman
      Good job ruining the joke.

  • @ltcuddles685
    @ltcuddles685 7 лет назад +259

    I would love a gun like this....
    That actually works.

    • @tristanmyers897
      @tristanmyers897 7 лет назад +34

      A Typical RUclipsr m16/ar15 with a masterkey underbarrel. problem solved

    • @beelz5932
      @beelz5932 6 лет назад +14

      tristan myers Masterkeys are nfa items, though. Imho it isn't worth the paperwork.

    • @ArcturusOTE
      @ArcturusOTE 5 лет назад

      What about something like the Turkish mag fed pumper TFB once covered?

  • @toxicmatrix1337
    @toxicmatrix1337 7 лет назад +140

    They don't want you to you clean or disassemble the gun. because its made with Chinese packaging peanuts.

  • @jhyland87
    @jhyland87 4 года назад +37

    I was thinking "That thing looks cool! Wonder why I haven't ever seen it before..." Then the next 20 seconds cleared that up... lol.

  • @craigmackay7691
    @craigmackay7691 5 лет назад +163

    Better off with an AR and underbarrel "master key" 12ga

    • @asbestosisathing5997
      @asbestosisathing5997 4 года назад +12

      Way better.

    • @linusdn2777
      @linusdn2777 4 года назад +26

      I just realized they call it a master key because it opens all doors.

    • @Terraqueo22
      @Terraqueo22 4 года назад

      But if fired too close to soneone may do some damage

    • @Astraeus..
      @Astraeus.. 4 года назад +23

      @Ese Travieso Obviously he didn't literally mean ALL DOORS, because FYI the doors on a nuclear bunker aren't opening up no matter what you shoot it with. Also the vast majority of doors you'd ever conceivably need to go through are NOT made of metal. Basically, you're being an obtuse asshole for no reason. Knock it off.

    • @litkeys3497
      @litkeys3497 3 года назад +8

      @Ese Travieso you shoot the weakpoint: lock or hinge. There are specialized breeching rounds for exactly this purpose

  • @chrisloUSA
    @chrisloUSA 7 лет назад +109

    I think the concept is sound but the execution is terrible. Now that the Assault Weapon Ban is long over someone should remake the original, semi auto concept rifle.
    I recommend the following combo's:
    12 Gauge/7.62 NATO
    20 Gauge/5.56 NATO
    410/22 LR
    Having both the shotgun and rifle portions in semi-auto integrated into one package would be a big seller.

    • @DoughboyJonesmk2
      @DoughboyJonesmk2 7 лет назад +10

      I agree

    • @trailblazer632
      @trailblazer632 6 лет назад +1

      Why 20ga with the 556 lol?

    • @hehitmewiththatalphabetsou3337
      @hehitmewiththatalphabetsou3337 6 лет назад +4

      Equivalent-ish power/recoil maybe?

    • @greymajickjedi
      @greymajickjedi 6 лет назад

      i'm with you.
      Put me down for a half a dozen of those 12 gauge .308 models.
      Am i the only one that thinks the rifle belongs on TOP?
      Also, in this day and age, there is no reason the shotgun couldn't also be fed by detachable box magazines.
      It would make reloading under fire much quicker.

    • @socksleeve
      @socksleeve 2 года назад +1

      @Eric Nunya I imagine it's done that way because you're having to feed two separate mags. If you put the AR barrel on top it would need a side loaded magazine, or you'd have to have the shotgun barrel way out forward so it doesn't get in the way of the AR magazine feed.

  • @maximgun3833
    @maximgun3833 7 лет назад +237

    The 80s, a weird time for gun design.

    • @pfitz9346
      @pfitz9346 7 лет назад +20

      Maxim Gun this monstrosity came from the mid to late 90s actually. Assault weapons ban was on the books from 94 to 04.

    • @CrimLawGeek
      @CrimLawGeek 5 лет назад +4

      Maxim Gun cocaine is a hell of a drug

    • @dillanaddington7022
      @dillanaddington7022 5 лет назад +1

      Clear Sky profile pic! Sweet.

    • @stevenbobbybills
      @stevenbobbybills 5 лет назад +2

      @@pfitz9346 I know I'm late, but Ian said the original design was from the late 80s, the fairly cool concept of the semi auto .308 one.

    • @pfitz9346
      @pfitz9346 5 лет назад +2

      @@stevenbobbybills yeah I see your point. The issue is a lot of the mods made to this gun to make it AWB compatible are why it sucks lol.

  • @connerstines1578
    @connerstines1578 7 лет назад +160

    You know, the way that thing looks really reminds me of a cheap airsoft gun.

    • @Brawler_1337
      @Brawler_1337 5 лет назад +5

      conner stines It might actually look pretty cool as an airsoft replica.

    • @bmhater1283
      @bmhater1283 4 года назад

      @@Brawler_1337 Just imagine someone recreating this.

    • @samuelsulavik6526
      @samuelsulavik6526 4 года назад +5

      There IS a fucking Airsoft replica of this thing check reventaian's video !! 😂

  • @tridentrex0576
    @tridentrex0576 6 лет назад +24

    As a hobby gunsmith, this damn gun keeps me up at night. I've had "visions" of a sporting rifle that has a bolt action rifle barrel on top and a pump action shotgun on the bottom.

    • @bebephoque7998
      @bebephoque7998 4 года назад

      NO.

    • @calanon534
      @calanon534 4 года назад +2

      I think if they'd managed to make the original .308/12GA Semi-Auto Over-Under function properly, it'd be a nice - if heavy - combination gun for range funs.

    • @agnosticlibertarian175
      @agnosticlibertarian175 3 года назад

      They had that in the movie badland road to fury

  • @JunkCCCP
    @JunkCCCP 5 лет назад +17

    In rewatching this video, it reminds me visually of a modernized BAR, when the pump action is locked to the rear.

  • @Lunageldia
    @Lunageldia 7 лет назад +72

    I've seen a few awkward looking guns, but every time Ian pumped that thing I flinched, almost expecting it to just blow up, or for him to lose his grip and fire into his foot.

  • @Rake3577
    @Rake3577 7 лет назад +201

    looks like something from the 80s that has annihilator and 5000 in its name and should be carried by a blonde skinny bikini girl with big crazy hair

    • @TheMalevolentSpoon
      @TheMalevolentSpoon 7 лет назад +22

      With a stars-and-stripes pattern bikini top, jeans ripped off above the knee and red rubber boots.

    • @suedetrombone2019
      @suedetrombone2019 6 лет назад +17

      Just needs a CD player, miniature microwave oven and a grenade launcher. And the guy selling it needs to be Bronson Pinchot.

    • @andrewmcgibbon2342
      @andrewmcgibbon2342 6 лет назад

      Where were you when they were developing the marketing campaign?

    • @Dazrena
      @Dazrena 5 лет назад

      Is this a Beverly hills cop reference or RoboCop?

    • @ezekielglenn5009
      @ezekielglenn5009 5 лет назад

      Lmao too funny

  • @palerider7171
    @palerider7171 7 лет назад +95

    Now that what I call a tacticools dream, it's got polymer (or a cheap plastic that we will call polymer) , it's got 5.56, it's got AR mags and a detachable shotgun mag to boot! And the price must means it's quality right? Who cares if it's impractical and jams.... its tacticool!

    • @Matthew-ep5ml
      @Matthew-ep5ml 6 лет назад +13

      Mall Ninja types would line up for this at twice the price.

    • @gregoryfilin8040
      @gregoryfilin8040 5 лет назад +1

      They wound be great if made as originally designed. Before the AWB. Then you could have a hell of a weapon.

  • @CMaitre1
    @CMaitre1 6 лет назад +10

    I remember as a kid seeing an ad for this in a hunting magazine about 18 years ago and thinking it was the most badass looking weapon ever and I never knew why I couldn't find anything on it over the years. I no longer wonder lol

    • @jackstecker5796
      @jackstecker5796 Год назад

      Same. I was a young, dumb kid, with a bunch of money burning a hole in my pocket. Couldn't find one anywhere. In retrospect, it was for the best.

  • @FN_FAL_4_ever
    @FN_FAL_4_ever 4 года назад +41

    Perfect for whenever your Cobray Lady’s Home Companion fails you

  • @joshuaradick5679
    @joshuaradick5679 7 лет назад +2338

    It's like Apple made a gun. Over priced, under-featured, does less than the competition and you cannot perform your own maintenence.

    • @dposcuro
      @dposcuro 7 лет назад +227

      Except it's not good looking, and the build quality is worse than the cheapest chinese knockoffs.

    • @Tula-cs1ef
      @Tula-cs1ef 6 лет назад +62

      That is the best thing I have read all day

    • @RockandrollNegro
      @RockandrollNegro 6 лет назад +73

      It reminds me of the Onion's coverage of Sony's 'Stupid Piece of Shit That Doesn't Work'.

    • @MakayevR29
      @MakayevR29 6 лет назад +36

      Yes,except that if apple had made it it would have probably looked like the gun Tom Cruise has in the movie Oblivion,which does look fairly cool in an ipod sort of way,this thing however looks as bad as it actually is.A perfect example of form following function.

    • @greymajickjedi
      @greymajickjedi 6 лет назад +16

      That's what i thought!
      Like Apple made the Edsel of firearms.

  • @andrealoi4426
    @andrealoi4426 7 лет назад +68

    Because some weapons ought to be forgotten.

    • @hips2862
      @hips2862 4 года назад +7

      Hubris of the past can hopefully serve as lessons for the future

  • @PS3Fan487
    @PS3Fan487 7 лет назад +225

    Wait a minute, something's wrong here...
    ... Since when did Ian fire right-handed?!

    • @ForgottenWeapons
      @ForgottenWeapons  7 лет назад +176

      I sometimes shoot right handed on video to accommodate lighting conditions.

    • @PS3Fan487
      @PS3Fan487 7 лет назад +27

      Yeah I figured it was for a significant reason like that, but thank you for the reply! Not many other channels do that, so it's neat when it happens.

    • @somberflight
      @somberflight 7 лет назад +8

      i'm pretty sure someone like ian can manage to shoot with his offhand without much problems

    • @benjaminsomerville7399
      @benjaminsomerville7399 7 лет назад +6

      I practice with both hands just in case

    • @spiff2268
      @spiff2268 6 лет назад +25

      Same here. Oh, wait, we're talking about shooting, aren't we.

  • @spicylizard111
    @spicylizard111 6 лет назад +69

    “Weird exigent legal circumstance”
    Welcome to Connecticut.

    • @AtlasJotun
      @AtlasJotun 4 года назад +7

      Very sad, considering your home state's rich firearms manufacturing history.

  • @teopini
    @teopini 4 года назад +61

    What if I told you that I saw this rifle rolling around my local police department back in the early 2000s? And I live in a tiny countryside city... in midwestern Brazil.
    How the hell did such a weapon end up down here? I'm not sure, but probably whoever sold this gun in South America must have made a deal with a politician... and politicians here don't know shit about how guns work, so even though it's an overpriced hunk of metal, he was probably told he was actually saving money on it because it was a two-for-one, a fucking space-age wonder weapon or whatever.
    All I can say is that I have never seen any cops patrolling the streets with these guns around here, now I know why.

    • @AntonAdelson
      @AntonAdelson 3 года назад +7

      "And I live in a tiny countryside city..."
      OK...
      "...in midwestern Brazil"
      What the actual FUCK?
      Edit : to clarify I'm surprised you found it in such an improbable place!

    • @Kalashnikingz47
      @Kalashnikingz47 3 года назад +3

      Everytime that p.o.s failed to cycle I said to myself: "Hes dead!" In an self defense situation.

    • @VorpalDerringer
      @VorpalDerringer 2 года назад +3

      Wow, that IS strange. Sometimes you have to say, "If this gun could talk..."

  • @possiblycrazy442
    @possiblycrazy442 7 лет назад +190

    "If Nerf guns were real guns, Part 1."

    • @counterfit5
      @counterfit5 4 года назад +23

      Sketchy nerf guns are way more reliable than this

    • @bug1494
      @bug1494 4 года назад +8

      @@counterfit5 with better ergonomics.

    • @Joshua_N-A
      @Joshua_N-A 3 года назад +1

      @@counterfit5 a Santa just denied a kid nerf gun. It's circulating on the web.

    • @marcusborderlands6177
      @marcusborderlands6177 3 года назад +2

      @@Joshua_N-A yeah and the nra used it as pr instead of actually helping in gun rights lawsuits

    • @justsomeplantcells-
      @justsomeplantcells- 3 года назад +1

      And it fucking jams

  • @LUR1FAX
    @LUR1FAX 7 лет назад +118

    I first thought this was some sort of AK style rifle. I mean cosmetically it looks pretty nice. Then I started watching the video, and I have to say I would rather use a Nambu Type 94 or 14 than this piece of crap.

    • @kitsuneluey7824
      @kitsuneluey7824 4 года назад

      He has a video where he covers the Type 94 Nambu and it's actually not as bad as you think

    • @DeeZeePeezee
      @DeeZeePeezee 4 года назад +1

      I think I'd rather use an eoka than this

    • @allangibson8494
      @allangibson8494 4 года назад

      I would rather use a Lee Enfield shotgun...

  • @StenCheesemonger
    @StenCheesemonger 7 лет назад +30

    And we're off with a good start...

    • @mysss29
      @mysss29 7 лет назад +30

      "Perfect, the gun is demonstrating itself flawlessly."

  • @ashenmichael5420
    @ashenmichael5420 6 лет назад +11

    ".....but it's all pump action..." That part really got me :P

  • @dankrowpman1201
    @dankrowpman1201 Год назад +1

    Thanks Ian for the video. I almost purchased one today for a lot more than $300. Glad I deferred and watched your video before reconsidering.

  • @growlikethewind5788
    @growlikethewind5788 7 лет назад +77

    "there we go, 4 rounds full capacity" 😂😂

  • @ShawarmaFarmer
    @ShawarmaFarmer 7 лет назад +20

    The 7615 is a pretty decent pump action magazine fed .223 rifle that works and it's pretty common here in Australia.

    • @billhacks
      @billhacks 7 лет назад +14

      The way American media portrays it Australians aren't allowed to have anything other than a boomerang and a pointy stick.

    • @trailblazer632
      @trailblazer632 6 лет назад +2

      I feel so sad for you folks that have to deal with a pump action 556 as one of the few guns you can legally own

    • @happyjohn354
      @happyjohn354 6 лет назад

      hay we give you boonie hats and big knives as well... hell if you ever get invaded the animals and weather will kill all your enemy's...

    • @alexm566
      @alexm566 Год назад

      ​@@trailblazer632I am from the future and WA state has the same problem now 😢

  • @robertgiggie6366
    @robertgiggie6366 7 лет назад +15

    I believe this should be titled, "best forgotten weapons"

  • @snivysaur0000
    @snivysaur0000 4 года назад +21

    You might be wondering how the designers got this gun to function properly, and that’s where the true innovation shines through. They didn’t

  •  4 года назад +13

    "which is an insanely high price for this… thing"
    I just love snark, and Ian delivers.

  • @Sverge
    @Sverge 7 лет назад +24

    8:54 "Eew, basically just eww"
    I think that pretty much sums it up for this weapon

  • @jonathanschubert9052
    @jonathanschubert9052 7 лет назад +16

    "You're probably wrong." that line had me dying, that was hilarious

  • @Mr1Knut
    @Mr1Knut 7 лет назад +6

    "An amalgamation of a whole bunch of bad ideas, all at the same time." Yep that about sums my life up.

  • @misplacedhillbilly7594
    @misplacedhillbilly7594 4 года назад +40

    I remember when these was all the rage in the gun magazines back in the day. Was touted as being the perfect law enforcement long gun. I also remember them getting mostly rave reviews 🤣

    • @graysun9108
      @graysun9108 4 года назад +7

      well i think it would be if it would work good and would be a better design

    • @sanjosesharkrock
      @sanjosesharkrock 4 года назад +7

      Yeah a combo of semiauto rifle and shotgun wouldn't be bad especially if switching between the two was not as complicated

    • @jameson1239
      @jameson1239 4 года назад +8

      The concept is a great idea it’s just it was executed terribly

    • @iamthehype3684
      @iamthehype3684 4 года назад +2

      If this gun actually worked worth a damn. It would be awesome.

    • @michael931
      @michael931 4 года назад +1

      For this gun or the vaporware they promised?

  • @RTek1986
    @RTek1986 10 дней назад +2

    Certainly one of the guns of all time.

  • @nindger4270
    @nindger4270 7 лет назад +15

    Okay, the idea in itself is interesting (at least in the original semi-auto configuration). But who takes a crack at designing such a rifle, then looks at *this* as the final product and thinks to themselves "Yup, definitely ready for prime time." I'd happily take a double barrel break-action and a bolt-action rifle instead. Would probably shoot faster, too.

  • @the_real_Kurt_Yarish
    @the_real_Kurt_Yarish 7 лет назад +23

    Jams more than Lone Star saving a Druid princess.

  • @highestqualitypigiron
    @highestqualitypigiron 7 лет назад +214

    another sort of neat idea but horribly executed

    • @EASY7356
      @EASY7356 7 лет назад +24

      "sort of" are the keywords here XD

    • @Tuton25
      @Tuton25 7 лет назад +1

      Lucian Leesonja Well, I really like my savage model 24, and that's a fantastic combination gun

    • @happyjohn354
      @happyjohn354 6 лет назад +1

      or just put a master key underbarrel on an AR...

  • @MsNorweg
    @MsNorweg 4 года назад +2

    Fun fact - the prototype ( 2:09 ) was show back in '90 in The Punisher comic book series (I do believe it was Punisher War Journal 23 or 24? )
    Frank Castle described it as an assault rifle that can fire two barrels at the same time. Probably a nod to The Red Scorpion ;)

  • @theunprofessionallurker
    @theunprofessionallurker 4 года назад +2

    Found one at my local gun shop today. I wanted to buy it, but they were asking $1K+. Watching how bad a time Ian had just made me want it more. This thing is ridiculous, and I love it.

  • @CharBezwingerOrom
    @CharBezwingerOrom 7 лет назад +13

    My favourite line in this: instead of explaining the receiver part "ewww... just ewwww" x'D

  • @ChinashopRodeo
    @ChinashopRodeo 7 лет назад +112

    I'm not saying I'd have the best time with it but.... 3gun?

    • @ForgottenWeapons
      @ForgottenWeapons  7 лет назад +60

      Nope.

    • @awesomepawn2
      @awesomepawn2 7 лет назад +4

      it would be just for kicks dude

    • @mysss29
      @mysss29 7 лет назад +21

      How stupid do you have to be to ask if someone has a fucking congenital developmental disorder, using fifty-year-obsolete terminology, because they said something people might find silly if it came out of your own mouth?

    • @ShitfuckMuhGee
      @ShitfuckMuhGee 7 лет назад +1

      Yep.

    • @riverstyxarmory9782
      @riverstyxarmory9782 7 лет назад +1

      Duane Young 2.5 gun... would be interesting to see someone use this in a comp, not that they'd be effective.

  • @dethfan06
    @dethfan06 7 лет назад +30

    At about 7:30 is that a VW Thing I see hiding back there?

    • @ForgottenWeapons
      @ForgottenWeapons  7 лет назад +18

      Yes, this one: ruclips.net/video/C37OAHao9AA/видео.html

  • @RileyCoyote846
    @RileyCoyote846 3 года назад +3

    “Gonna do the stupid thing here and rest it on my foot”
    My genuine reaction: Dammit Ian!
    Love your videos!!!

  • @screwaroundairsoft5057
    @screwaroundairsoft5057 6 лет назад

    Saw one of these at a gun store years ago. Sat there forever.

  • @AxeGaijin
    @AxeGaijin 7 лет назад +16

    Some weapons are best left forgotten :)

  • @durn863
    @durn863 7 лет назад +137

    somehow I knew this was a garbage gun before I even saw Ian shoot it

  • @gunnerr8476
    @gunnerr8476 7 лет назад +99

    Shot first shell
    Failed to shot second shell
    Fired second shot
    Put the weapon at the ground
    Remove the spent shotgun casing
    "Hey guys.."
    hahaha

    • @larsmehlhop-lange8884
      @larsmehlhop-lange8884 7 лет назад +39

      Yeah, we all saw that.

    • @gunfuego
      @gunfuego 7 лет назад

      nope he's Captain Obvious, here to rescue us from the conspicuous lol

  • @--ginebra3589
    @--ginebra3589 4 года назад +19

    when you ask your kid to draw a gun then send the drawing to weapon designer in the factory.

  • @mattcole8173
    @mattcole8173 4 года назад

    That's the first time I've ever seen a rifle wear you out. I love all your videos and I never fast forward. Thanks

  • @drmaudio
    @drmaudio 7 лет назад +5

    Costa as a verb. I'm going to use that.
    As a generic small game gun, I would like a .22lr over .410, or even better, 20ga , but for that purpose break action would be fine and even preferable to semi auto (compact, light, simple). I can even see a pump AR (the Troy comes to mind) for places where semi-auto is a legal no-go, but I'm not sure what they were thinking here.

  • @yo10057
    @yo10057 7 лет назад +26

    "Oooh, that's pretty"
    *jams*
    ":("

  • @trefod
    @trefod 7 лет назад +5

    I remember seeing the original advertised Crossfire and thinking it was the coolest gun EVER, this iteration that made it to marked look decidedly uncool and ungainly and it also doesn't function. Just great!

  • @michael931
    @michael931 4 года назад +8

    It's the Tesla of guns. "Don't touch this. Only we can fix it. Eventually "

    • @allangibson8494
      @allangibson8494 4 года назад

      Michael Apple’s repair policy applies - no-one but us can fix it and we won’t if it is more than two years old.

  • @gnarshread
    @gnarshread 5 лет назад

    I really appreciate Ian showing us things that weren't a good idea or popular or well known.

  • @ablationer
    @ablationer 7 лет назад +84

    Would make for a cool FPS weapon though.

    • @Neuttah
      @Neuttah 7 лет назад +5

      I think I've seen it in a JA-alike. Or, more likely, one of its mods. Pretty fun gun, but shotguns in general were hilariously powerful in that game. Probably because jamming 70% of the time wasn't a feature.
      (Also, not an FPS, so might not count; "7.62 High Calibre")

    • @jackmcslay
      @jackmcslay 7 лет назад +3

      Shotgun attachments for rifles do exist for real, and there's a few games that feature them if I recall

    • @tillmannfischer
      @tillmannfischer 7 лет назад +6

      Starship Troopers. Although that weapon was shit for other reasons than the Crossfire...

    • @Fireclaws10
      @Fireclaws10 7 лет назад +7

      The word you're looking for is Masterkey attachment

    • @PapaSam88
      @PapaSam88 7 лет назад

      Rainbow 6 something quite similar

  • @AussieFanXCIV
    @AussieFanXCIV 7 лет назад +4

    Slick as an asphalt road in a rural county.

  • @meatbyproducts
    @meatbyproducts 7 лет назад +105

    This is what happens when the good idea fairy runs a company.

    • @barfingcoyote210
      @barfingcoyote210 6 лет назад +8

      Good idea , crappy engineering.

    • @gregoryfilin8040
      @gregoryfilin8040 5 лет назад

      @Abrasax Palante it's mostly AWB laws. Original design was better.

    • @barfingcoyote210
      @barfingcoyote210 5 лет назад +7

      Hunt predators for over 50yrs , get some experience and you'll understand why it is a good idea . Just crappy engineering.
      My solution was to buy a Drilling 12x12x30-06 .

  • @hesnotbad9045
    @hesnotbad9045 4 года назад +1

    I really really really want you to take it apart. This is like when a movie ends on a cliffhanger and doesn’t get a sequel

  • @Turboman_64
    @Turboman_64 Год назад

    Im amazed that this even went into production. No wonder that i never heared of it yet.

  • @phoenixrising4573
    @phoenixrising4573 7 лет назад +46

    It's actually a good idea, just HORRIBLE implementation

  • @feraligatorade99
    @feraligatorade99 7 лет назад +34

    I thought we learned that recoil-activated anything was a bad idea in the early 1900's.

    • @mysss29
      @mysss29 7 лет назад +5

      Luckily for Forgotten Weapons [maybe not so much Ian, though...], the designers of this appear not to have gotten the memo.
      I actually thought it was unlocking _unintentionally_ at the beginning of the video....

    • @crazyirishmedic9535
      @crazyirishmedic9535 7 лет назад +2

      Almost all over under shotguns have firing pins that are cocked by recoil only

  • @jmh1189
    @jmh1189 4 года назад +5

    I actually would really like to have one just due to how interesting it is.

    • @bertroost1675
      @bertroost1675 3 года назад

      There's one for sale at a gun shop near me right now. $2495 :)

  • @Jaytheradical
    @Jaytheradical 6 лет назад +1

    I feel a connection to this gun. First of all, I've always loved the idea of combination gins, even if they're at best highly situational and at worst complete crap, and in cases like this, both. Second, as an aesthetic experience, this gun combines the kinetics of a pump action shotgun, the coolest kind of shotgun kinetically speaking, and a proper infantry rifle.
    Aesthetically, you know what this is? It's the M41A Pulse Rifle from Aliens, a few hardware generations back.

    • @Jaytheradical
      @Jaytheradical 6 лет назад

      The other reason I feel a connection to this gun is I too am too large, too useless, and I also was announced in 1989 but didn't come out until 1999.

  • @eightosaurusspelunk1598
    @eightosaurusspelunk1598 4 года назад +1

    Best FW intro ever. I also literally laughed out loud when you said that they're both pump action. That's nuts

  • @TheNinjaDC
    @TheNinjaDC 7 лет назад +6

    I feel the core idea was/is a good idea. Having a AR 15/M16 with an internal 12 gauge shotgun provides a lot of flexibility with all the specialty military 12 gauge shells available(door buster, buckshot, slug, grenade, flare, incendiary, tazer, etc), and unlike master key like systems, aiming and firing is more natural.
    However, the execution was just awful, and most likely tied to the assault weapon ban. Essentially, they likely started with a complicated/innovative semi auto (or even full auto) design, but after the ban, macgyvered a legal pump act version. So they took an already tricky design, and made it a cluster f*****.

    • @j.murphy4884
      @j.murphy4884 7 лет назад +2

      Well, the idea of a combination rifle/shotgun for hunting has been around and popular since the Victorian era, but they're always very simple break action single shot weapons.
      What did this thing in is that having any sort of repeating action makes any gun more complex, trying to cram two actions into one gun is just flying too close the the sun.
      I seriously doubt anyone was trying to market this to anyone other then civilians, it's just not a concept that any military or law enforcement agency would be interested in. It's a civilian hunter's tool, for use in areas with mixed game.

  • @merlemorrison482
    @merlemorrison482 7 лет назад +7

    I suspect that a folding stock would be tricky with the shotgun mag is in the butt stock... :(

  • @ZogThePrimitive
    @ZogThePrimitive 7 лет назад +8

    Any thoughts on the M26 Modular Accessory Shotgun System?

  • @serenegreene6984
    @serenegreene6984 4 года назад

    I smiled through this whole video.....Both times I watched it.....Thanks Ian

  • @ocean6947
    @ocean6947 3 года назад

    This is so badass in concept

  • @bryanmchugh1307
    @bryanmchugh1307 7 лет назад +12

    I have seen some crazy half ass things in my life time but this gun .....the designers HAD to have been high

    • @tristanmyers897
      @tristanmyers897 7 лет назад +2

      Bryan McHugh the assault weapon ban probably made this gun all the worse

  • @thederp6505
    @thederp6505 5 лет назад +9

    the first 30 seconds was horrifying, glad i have a mossberg pump

  • @Shadow_Hawk_Streaming
    @Shadow_Hawk_Streaming 7 лет назад +10

    Something like this could have worked as a good all in one gun,if only it'd been a bit more practically designed

    • @tristanmyers897
      @tristanmyers897 7 лет назад

      Anthony Williams the design may have been fine. The production was fucked by the assault weapon ban as stated in the video

  • @eugenespicer3272
    @eugenespicer3272 Год назад

    Seems like I remember an over/under gun for turkey hunting in PA. But it was a break open single shot. It was 12 gauge over .223

  • @nathanjohnson9231
    @nathanjohnson9231 2 года назад

    "Not trying to Costa this" is my favorite line from all your videos.

  • @Wrathquell
    @Wrathquell 7 лет назад +4

    I had seriously considered buying this as my first firearm. I turned 18 during the Assault weapons ban but instead i bought a Mosin Nagant M44. Probably a waaaay better choice for my first gun. lol.

  • @av0-cad03
    @av0-cad03 7 лет назад +32

    this looks like it would be fun for plinking... maybe... or not...

  • @JefferyPierce
    @JefferyPierce 5 лет назад

    Yes, thank you Robert in Georgia!

  • @davemarx7856
    @davemarx7856 4 года назад

    Dude. That was perfect. 100% cool factor the whole time.
    Effin Nailed it

  • @willrogers3793
    @willrogers3793 4 года назад +5

    Okay, that’s great and all, but if I’m being perfectly honest, I’d say this thing’s biggest flaw is that the top barrel isn’t chambered for 40mm grenades with the lower barrel being chambered in .50 BMG.
    If you’re going to have a conceptually awesome gun that fails horrifically in the execution, you might as well put as much oomph as possible into the “conceptually awesome” part.