The Most Dominant Pokémon In Competitive History
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Fun fact:Incineroar in smash bros single is called a c to d tier but in doubles it considered the best support in the game,just like the pokemon games.
He's perfect
Dies from peak fiction
The best Irony
skyjay beating all top players with incineroar: are you sure about that?
@@xXunknownXx0000well you see one single guy can't just make the character Good sky Jay is just him but incin it self Is unfortunately not the best it's still not bad by any means Iam saying this as a person who picker littin as my starter
Incineroar is honestly one of my favorite starters, but even I will gladly admit that what they did to Incineroar in competitive is scary
Is true there
Is one of my favorites and i will love seeing the return of the king
Same dude, I love incineroar so much (even though I'm not that good competitive player)
@@captainnemogaming5159 IT is my favourite pokemon ever and is my first a Lv100
What did they do bro?
Incineroar is pretty much Dominic Toretto, with the ability to turn any of his potential counters into his family
Imagine being hitmontop, being the one mon with the super cool niche of role-compressing intimidate and fake out, and then a fucking cat comes in and steals your role with double the support, bulk and damage
And since Incineroar is Dark type, it's immune to Prankster and being Fire type means it isn't weak to Fairy moves unlike Hitmontop
@@rike971don't forget it's also immune to being burned. Which is great for a physical attacker.
Fire/dark is an insane typing for unlisted benefits.
I love how some Pokemon are only good in Singles or VGC and not the other. Granted, I haven't played singles in a while but I can't imagine Incin is a meta threat in Singles.
In singles, I believe its NU, which for reference is the same tear as Alolan Exeggutor.
It always amazes me how pokemon can be so different. Regieliki is so broken in singles it was banned to Ubers, while it's a spectacle when it shows up here. Landorus is the worst its ever been in singles while the best its ever been in VGC.
Though, Incineroar was OU viable back in Gen 8 Home meta, which Boots, Knock Off, Will O Wisp and U-Turn/Parting Shot, it was a pretty decent pivot that saw niche uses, it wasn't OU by usage, but it was definitely viable and saw plays in tournament if I recall correctly. It didn't last long, but it did happen
@@Endershock1678 Is Landorus the best it ever been right now? Doesn't it miss knock off?
@@Endershock1678 It was only NU in Gen 7 due to Hazards wearing it down ALOT.
Gen 8 however, with the introduction of Heavy Duty Boots, actually made it a defensive pivot menace in like, RU, and above. Mostly RU or UU
Very bad
I’m kinda glad incineroar didn’t have parting shot during the Z-era
Z-parting shot heals whatever you switch into
Imagine that with potential Z Knock off as well. For even MORE flexibility.
@@Dr.J42 Knock Off isn't a status move, so Z-Knock Off is just an above-average Dark attack.
@@AlexaRobin21 Yeah still more flexibility.
And crashed the game
This coming out like an hour before Wolfey's Fire Type video is amazing. I can't tell if this was coordinated or just fate deciding it would be funny today.
the low speed allows its parting shot to be more useful in letting tank damage and then switch giving the next monster save entry
Honestly incineroar is always healthy for the meta imo, it makes the games less hyper offensive, which is especially gonna be good when hyperoffense was meta a while back and still is pretty good today
Depends on what u like yes it slows down but it always limits meta really hard in vgc it always has a 80+ usage rate that is dumb and then cuz u need stuff to deal with him or else he will just ruin ur game his 'counters' also get massive usage rates. I agree current hyper offense is a bit crazy but incin might just like kill variaty in teams at least rn we are seeing stuff like farigaraf and some cool nieche stuff but incin is just gonna turn in into a full on f fest where probably u are gonna be forced to run Bundle on every team since it could get easy OhkOs against it like one of the best mons rn are ghold and flutter to name 2 which will just be irrelevant with incin there we just gonna have Rilla incin bundle core now where is gonna be the fun...
@@jasperhoek4678 ok but a 80% usage rate is a bit misleading since incin runs different sets, each one facilitating many unique strategies. i also don't think bundle is going to be forced on every team, hands already checks it nicely + things like flutter punish switching in a lot. flutter absolutely will not be irrelevant once incin drops + ghold will most likely be relegated to more specialized teams. incin isn't and never has been a 0brain homogenous mon, it's always a welcome addition that helps numerous playstyles and fits into all kinds of teams. the only mon that we can be sure is really going to suffer is hisuian arcanine at the moment + with all the other new additions in the dlc, there is no way of knowing how the meta will develop
i genuinely don't get how you can look at the best role compression pokemon in history and somehow argue that it makes the game "less varied" like you're spending 1 mon slot to do what you'd otherwise need 2 or even 3 mons to cover, having 5 other mons to brew with is way better than 4 or 3
I would usually think Incineroar was too much for VGC but with HOME…
I have to agree with Incineroar keeping VGC healthy
@@vincenzofromwiisports3993 i mean the variation is always do u have will i wisp flare Blitz or darkest, like every single one has parting shot and fake out and while iron hands is good whats it gonna do after 2 attack drops from switch ins. Also it can just tera aswell to avoid super effective hits from iron hands while with bundle it can do that but it wouldnt be able to resist hydro stap by going grass or water cuz freeze dry. Ghold will not be brought and if it makes top 16 next worlds ill make a video of me pouring a bucket of milk over my head. Flutter while okay for incin wont have ways of getting a 1 hit discounting tera so while ofc it can work it will go down in usage we always see this when incin gets to the game ghost types and phys attackers usage rates just drop. U can go to previous gens and look at it
Trained a Defiant Annilihape for Incineroar's eventual return. Ghost typing is immune to Fake Out, and Defiant counters Intimidate and Parting Shot so it can punish any Incineroar who gets switched in.
Also, Fighting beats Dark.
Did it work?
@@Da_Mang0_ fun fact annihilape is no where to be seen nowadays 🤣🤣🤣
@@juejuejuewith Indeedee + Armarouge being a thing I'm not surprised
Genuinely I don't even know how you would nerf its incineroar. Intimidate as an ability is too iconic and makes perfect sense, all its good moves fit his wrestling cat persona perfectly (aside from maybe U turn, but that's worse than parting shot anyways), and they shouldn't just nerf its stats or change its typing.
Nerfing Incineroar is equal to slapping a healthy meta in the face.
@@mipho5899 I think you can nerf it while still keeping the meta healthy. I watch a lot of Gen 7 and 8 matches, and Intimidate Cycling was running rampant during those matches. IMO, the best nerf if I was ignoring how well it fits him is simply remove Fake Out. I think he would still be fantastic with it, would dramatically slow down the pace of the game with both intimidate and parting shot, and still has a ton of excellent support options. He would still probably have like 30-40% use even without it.
Why else would Game Freak give Primeape a ghost evolution for? It could be the perfect counter to Incineroar if you play your cards right
They would most likely have to take away 2 out of Parting Shot, Knock Off, and Fake Out. Basically making it more in-line with Arcanine as bulky attacker who can pivot with U-Turn and cripple with Snarl, instead of "intimidate fake out parting shot intimidate fake out parting shot" like it was able to do in Gen 8.
@@Keenakeenwell with Flutter Mane, Ogerpon and Shifu running around, I doubt it would even be popular 😂
Incineroar TO THE VGC RN: "HEEEEEEEEERE'S JOHNNY!"
With all of the defiant pokemon running around, you'd think they'd have an easier time dealing with Incineroar, but one look and you'll see they've all either been in the game before, are weak to one for Incin's stabs or are Annihilape
I love both Incinaroar in game, and in smash, so I am always glad when I see him getting recognition. Hope he stays in the competitive for a long time
Skyjay is the best incinaroar player, and every time he hits the field, your stocks evaporated quick
Never thought that playing Pokémon in minecraft would get me invested into the later gens of Pokémon but I love skeledirge and incineroar so much
I love Incineroar - its design and competitive build are top notch.😄 Especially with Tera, it can remove its weaknesses to get a better type if needed. But its greatest moveset with Fake Out and Parting Shot can be bypassed with Covert Cloak and Clear Amulet respectively. So i curious how it will fair in Gen 9. What is your take on this? 🤔
Covert Cloak and Clear Amulet don't stop Iron Hands, Rillaboom, Lando T, and Arcanine H from dominating, so I doubt it will stop Incineroar, especially since Incineroar was still viable in Gen 8 restricted full of Dynamax pokemon (which could be flinched) and special attackers like Kyogre or Calyrex Shadow. At the end of the day, you only get 1 clear Amulet and Covert Cloak, and Clear Amulet especially isn't great since it means losing what it typically an important item.
@@Endershock1678 I agree. But Pokemon like Ogerpon and Sinistcha had an entire shift around them, so we can't tell. Especially with Tera. You've gotta admit, it is fun thinking about it. Don't you agree?!
@@decidueye98 I'm more interested in how well it will do into new pokemon. It has a pretty decent MU into Flutter Mane, since they tend to struggle against bulky physical attackers with Tera, but a bad MU into Urshifu. The pokemon around it are far more interesting to think about than the items IMO, since it's never gotten to play with the treasures of ruin or paradox mons.
@@Endershock1678didn't we just explain urshifu doesnt stop incin it makes him stronger like incin covers for urshifu his weakness and Rilla will cover for incins, like its just gonna be a incin Rilla Urshifu water/bundle core every game and there is nothing that gonna deal with it, using Dozo tatsu out of the window orgepon is just gonna be litterly destroyed idk unless there is a new mon in the DLC who can match incin without also giving it use he just gonna have 90+ usage again and make all cores simular
Im ready for incin and whims both. Incin is great for teambuilding. Being able to compress so many roles in one slot makes it easier to be more creative in the other spots
>Incineroar is the most dominant
I mean. Furries coulda told you that
i love incineroar he lets me use my favorite pokemon by keeping big scary guys like zacian and calyrex-shadow away! plus he's a cute little kitty cat
Incineroar iron hands🔥🔥🔥🔥
Incineroar iron hands tapu fini rillaboom porygon-2 other give me it
I don't hate Incineroar. Nor did i actually use him much. In a game where anything can be knocked out in one move and where players just stack teams with nothing but powerhouse pokemon. They need more pokemon that can put the breaks on that. I never really thought of it as "for the health of the game," but now that you mention it. It really is.
I hate to tell you this, but the more the meta develops, the more it usually leans towards a defensive meta. Towards the end of both SM and SwSh, not counting restricted formats, games went on for a long time because bulky pokemon would typically be vital in a team, and it would be more viable to bring bulky pokemon that would always do something than a frail pokemon that might do nothing. In this recent regionals, Flutter Mane was brought out less than half the times we saw Heatran, Rillaboom, or Iron hands.
@Endershock1678 It's no problem. When I said powerhouse, I wasn't referring to glass cannons. I would also put Iron Hands and Rillaboom in that category. whereas Heatran, although it can serve as an offensive pokemon. It's good typing tends to make some players use it more defensive as a pivot or counter to many offensive pokemon. Ground being one of the easiest move-types to counter via Immunity, Ability or Resistance helps Heatran do its job when used like this. Heatran is more in the middle ground between something like Great Tusk(Powerhouse) and Umbreon(Wall/Defensive). Apart from Burning and setting up Stealth Rocks, Heatran dont have much movepool utility to be considered Supportive like Incineroar. So when used defensively Heatran still mostly tries to dish out damage via type coverage.
Koraidon watching the enemy send out Lando-T and Parting Shot Incineroar:
Incineroar, your worst demon’s worst demon.
The thumbnail on this video made me laugh pretty hard 😂
I don’t play VGC but it’s nice to see my favorite Pokémon be so good.
1:Dude this pokemon can counter this cat
2:But it work also well with him
1:...gid dammit
I love incin and think it’s a very good part of any meta game
I meant tapu lele not fini! Lmao I can’t believe I missed that
I love that my favourite Pokémon incineroar is getting recognition and for a good reason for the first time
Incineroar being hated in vgc odly makes me like it more even though im also a vgc player. I see it as the wrestling heal doing his job really well.
One of my favorite starters, and only grew to like him more when they put him in smash bros. They gave him so much personality in smash, now if only I could back throw opponents in scarlet and violet...
I think that what they did witj Incineroar is great. It doesn't have any game breaking abilities or moves (Looking at Urshifu) but still manages to dominate via great support tools and balanced stats.
Also idk I just like seeing a starter dominate for once instead of Box/DLC legendary number 94
Idk if Incineroar will get nerfed after DLC, since none of it's key moves gets nerfed like Parting Shot
I will never dread the return of my favorite pokemon of all time to the meta. Can't wait to see my boi take another world championship!
If incineroar gets raging fury like infernape its gonna be a blood bath
VGC Players really must be dreading his comeback, with wolfey recently posting about incin and now Skraw making another, they are scared about the inevitable lmao
H. Arcanine: You took everything from me!
Incineroar: I don't even know who you are
Too be honest, i didnt expect this much from Incineroar, but i dont really do the Championship at all, i just like to play the og game, and see my boy Incineroar comin back in the Indigo Disk, you know im ready and happy for this, my childhood Pokemon game has been Pokemon Moon, so i cannot wait to re-live the good Litten, Torracat and Incineroar vibes again 💚
To all the harers in 2016 who shit on incineroar, this is the future you deserve. Ive been team litten since day one and even after incineroar was leaked it only solidified my love of him. I was mocked and ridiculed, incin was called a furry and low tier trash, but now he reaps what he deserves
*Return of the King*
that thumbnail deserved a comment lmao
I fricking love Incineroar its my favorite pokemon
Faced it many times, never used it, time to change that in doubles format lol. It can keep my Magearna and other threats alive lol.
VGC has single handedly turned incineroar into my most hated Pokémon of all time.
Crazy that march 9 2024 will be the saddest day
What happened?
@@gabrielchee8470 matpat is leaving RUclips
2:19 😂
It's very nice how Pokemon feels balanced & fair with no favoritism whatsoever
I have a love hate relationship with Incin. I've always liked strong support mons like Arcanine, and Incin basically just a better Arcanine. I love to use it... but I hate to _always_ use it.
At least there is now Hisuian Arcanine which can separate itself with STAB Rock Slide!
I do like the defensive utility of incineroar.
I wish it was nerfed a little though, so other defensive options were more viable. Intimidate, fake out, a switching move together with good typing and stats make it hard not to use.
Maybe taking away access to switch-out moves like u-turn and parting shot would help, so that cycling it in and out becomes a bit harder could help
Then again, Intimidate did get somewhat of a nerf with certain abilities like Scrappy and Own Tempo being immune to it, but I see your point. I'm ngl tho, I am somewhat biased to Incineroar since it was my first & favorite Pokemon
@@alolanchampion yea and also the items clear amulet and covert cloak stops intimidate and fake out respectively
@@what.are.you.doing.stepbrothing is that makes u lose a choice or life orb or recovery on a mon to do that also it hasnt stoped Lando from going ham RK9 from being great gyarados being useful for once yes the items are nice but u can only use 1 on a team so unless u planning to drop ur bands and scarf and risk losing KO ranges probably wont be worth
@@jasperhoek4678 there's enough options to prevent it. What else do you want? Its not like they gave Incineroar 200 base attack, special attack and speed. Incineroar does not OHKO or 2HKO most of the mons. All he does is slows down the powerhouses which is necessary bc of the increasing powercreep of the newer generations mons
@@what.are.you.doing.stepbro He doesnt just slow down he crippels mons, and enables ur own offensive power houses to shine more. Yes Incin does slow games down but in the end with Incin a lot of games become a repeat. since he forces u to use certain mons but cuz they counter incin but because if u dont use them incin his partners will run away with the game. I cant put it really into words (also the 200 atk stat is irrelavent he is a defensive mon not offensive they can gie him 20 more atk and the game wont change much but if they give it 10 more bulk its a problem)
Players aren't scared, they're sick and tired of Incin
I like him :)
@@skrawvgcSame 🤝
No they’re intimidated by him
“He is coming back” smeargle
i love incineroar when i dont know what to do i switch him in
Since the word pokemon is also plural i thought there would be more pokemon like a list lol
In retrospect the Portland regional proved that the king had fallen , he made to top 8 usage for sure but surely has gotten a big hit due to power creep
Nah he’s comin trust
@@skrawvgc honestly I hope not (entei and arcanine h. definitely have not my family hostage I swear )
@@nataledesposito2075I did a quick search. It's 2nd in usage ATM, only flutter has more.
And now it has knock off, helping hand and CC. This year's VGC is gonna be filled with these guys
It has Zangief's harassment and I like it. It's like a Gigachad Garfield
Urshifu Single Strike can also hit incineroar with Super Effective Damage.
Dominant?? Incineroar??? Ahhah hah 👉👈
Maybe this will spark a return for Unaware Dondozo + Tatsu
Sadly it counters it even harder, Dozo has problems with things like incin parting shot fake out intimidate kinda cook Dozo also dont forget incin has tera now so he just gonna tera grass or water or something dumb and say gg unlucky Dozo ur walled
Cant wait for the return of the king, i love him and will enjoy roasting and annoying everyone with fake out, intimidate
I just realised that my favorite pokemon primarina is coming back
2:19 lol
This is only truth to very very competitive players. I bet majority of those who watched the video is happy to see their favorite pokemon come back. I just started to play ranked with some pokemons that I like. I play singles, so I don't see Incineroar very much, but I think the way people work around the new games iteration tells more about people wanting to keep using it them the actual pokemon
Incineroar is my favorite fire starter, but my god it’s dreadful to run into online
He’s dominant you say? 👀👀👀👀
Ah yes Incineroar the Legendary Pokemon of VGC
Yea, Incinerawr - that one Puss-in-boots that gets outsped by Breloom , put to sleep and absolutely dunked on by an SD Drain Punch. Well done. 😄
INCINEROAR GANG WYA
I see we forgot Greninja or Excadrill happened
Intimidate needs a nerf. Hopefully the next gen, it will work only once similarly to Intrepid Sword ability. Incin will still be good with the nerf, but it’s overcentralizing
Nah, nerfing a tool that slows the game down and keeps power mons in check is a good thing
Nah, Intimidate already got plenty of counterplay in new items and abilities blocking it, nerfing it to inteprid sword will make it basically useless
Why am I getting a cdc covid disclaimer 😂😂🙈
Because I mentioned COVID!
Hyped to see blaziken vs incineroar matches hopefully
Blaziken will never be used sadly since chi yu is just a better option for a fire type (also incin destroys blaziken) blaziken is frail, so 1 fake out and a partner to target it and bye bye, or even worse lets say u get blaziken in clean into incin (in a 2v2) incin will just tank a cc and parting shot u until ur attack is 0
Most dominant in history is a reaaaaach. Maybe most dominant in one battle mode for a few years.
Poor Hisuian Arcanine
And now incin gets helping hand😳
what tf is wrong with game freak honestly. they definitely made incineroar broken on purpose
and wolfe just won the largest regional with incineroar 😂
Its crazy that the 4th fire/fighting type is the strongest one
It’s fire dark
Why would you ever be scared of the best defensive pokemon that helps makes balance even better?
I want Incineroar to dominate me 🥺👉👈
Speed boost blaziken: that's about it?
Well I don't see Blaziken in VGC usage last time I checked, and idk if it wants to deal with urshifu rapid strike's surging strikes and water ogerpons ivy cudgels atm
@@gabrielchee8470 cuz it's so strong that it's banned 😂
@@quiteshayne00 last time I checked, VGC doesn't ban stuff like Smogon.
The players just suck it up and find ways to utilize or deal with broken mons like flutter mane or urshifu. They may complain, but they'll still try and figure out ways around stuff.
Mana... all the physical focused gameplay makes me wish for a special attack/defense meta.
Yeah I wish there was more special counterplay, like special intimidate or bring frostbite back
@@patrickripleyiii134 special intimidate I would want. Frostbite can rot off.
When a dominant force meets another, most would think they would test each other in battle, then did but on the same side,
Their are legends of the graveyard of pride it's fuller then the ones we're familiar with, don't be prideful the most prideful thing is in an entire loop of failure
(😂How did I loop this around into a proverb🤣)
If you can't beat em, join em
As a noob to vgc, i struggle to understand these videos. I still watch them to attempt to learn, but i still dont understand what people mean online when they say a pokemon won a event. I'm just trying to learn here, dont be cruel.
Incineroar is goat, but without locking transfer to scarlet and violet 💀
But finally new DLC can added all starters im glad LETS GO!
You said it. I have a friend of mine who's favorite mon is Incineroar, and their excited for it returning
Whimsicott and excadrill are coming back but not togekiss :(
Also I only watched the short so no way of knowing he's talking about vgc. It says best dark type gen 2 t-tar that's it.
Gotta say part of my issue is that I don’t use legendaries
Cat of the healthy meta
Was Blaziken in singles what Incineroar is in doubles?
Nah inci is definitely better in doubles than Blaziken is good in singles
Why is there a COVID awareness tag
Because I mentioned COVID shutting the circuit down
a banger!! great vid
It he is not in the game, there is arcanine. Its like landorus and garchomp. They are very good pokemons
What it got Knock Off and Parting Shot at the same time
No it lost knock for parting
*What If
i am scared to see how it interacts with gholdengo
Ghold is just gonna be never used again. It loses purely on type matchup the only KO chance it has is FB but even then if we invest into sdef which with mons like bundle running around we will its gonna be cooked
In nba terms where does incanroar place in the vgc goat debate
Yall scared about Incineroar? Smeargle coming too lol.
Love the yugioh music
He's so dominant 🥰