Post Office Scandal: Paula Vennells describes complaining subpostmasters as 'noise'
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- Paula Vennells said she “regrets” using the word “noise” in association with complaints launched by subpostmasters about the Horizon IT system.
Asked at the inquiry into the scandal if “noise” was what complaints were seen as at the top end of the Post Office, Ms Vennells said: “No, and I’m sorry it is not a good word but you have also seen how I have responded personally to other individual matters.
“It is a word I regret using.”
Asked if it reflected the “workings of the minds” of those at the top of the business, Ms Vennells said: “I think it reflects a wrong understanding yes that people believed that Horizon worked and this is me deploying a word that was unwise.
“I did not in any way mean that I personally did not take seriously issues when they got to me.”
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She is full of it.... and is trying to also play herself as a "victim" of the system
She gets caught then say it was the bad part of my brain that said it.the good side says sorry.humbug
What's coming out of her mouth now is just noise. She belongs in prison.
And throw away the key.
@@alanashdown2527 And also ordered too forfeit Her Public sector Pension and the Large amount of cash as a termination Payment along with all bonuses and then she if she makes “NOISE”
Too big to jail.
This email actually shows that she didn’t wanted to be bothered with such “noise”
These people are so out of touch with the reality of life for normal people that they don’t care how many lives they have destroyed in the name of profit and prestige.
Well, as an Ordained Priest she bloody well should be.
She is in touch with reality. The reality is that at this point her bonus is related to her assertion that Horizon is infallible.
@@StellaAsh It will be interesting if she is brought before a Church of England Consistory Court
How quick emotions can change. Now sobbing, a couple of years ago she was laughing all the way to the bank.
I think she’s sobbing for herself, not anyone else.
A very just denouement is taking place
"It doesn't mean that I didn't take the issue seriously"...
OH YES IT DOES!!!!!
Orwellian "Black is white", "War is peace", "pain is joy"
Of course, Paula! People going to jail. People ending their own lives. Just noise drowning out my enjoyment of my £700,000 a year salary.
Well said ! How can categorising their issues as noise be in same breath be taken to be true whilst “taking the issues seriously” . Really ?!?!!! It beggars belief she expects anyone to believe the formulaic statement of “I took it seriously” . The only “taking it seriously” aspect was to remind managers these issues should not be allowed to be heard - the exact opposite of her statement.
Anyone with any common sense should have realised that the number of sub postmasters being investigated over missing money was abnormal and that they couldn’t all be crooks.
They knew. They just preferred MONEY and prestige over truth.
I said that years ago. I know someone who used to work for the PO about it then, and she thought they were. It stems from a demonisation of working people imo
How on earth this woman should never been allowed in her position. Especially when she had no idea what was really happening or chose to ignore through her ignorance and arrogance.The millions she was paid for destroying the post Office is unbelievable. She and those that allowed this to happen should serve jail time and pay reparation to those that suffered because of her actions This is absolutely horrendous.
If these ppl don’t go to prison it’s hard to believe the British public will stand by and do nothing,this could have happened to anyone!!!!
Once again shielded by the big table syndrome, a big boy did it and ran away.
It should have become apparent that something was wrong many years ago. For Vennells to claim there was not a problem at this point is ludicrous.
I think the problem is that she still does not understand what an accounting system is supposed to do. And neither do the Courts having convicted so many on hearsay.
Apparently the Horizon system was not an accounting system but a database which is one of the reasons for some of its problems. It wasn't a fit for purpose system and Fujitsu never consulted end users in creating the system. The Post Office should have insisted on that. At some point she knew that the Horizon system had flaws because the Post Office itself hired 'Second Sight' , in July 2012, to look into it and then sacked them when they reported the flaws. The P.O. didn't want to know. She didn't want to know.
Will those responsible go to prison?
no
Not at all. Prison is for ordinary people.
Remember Fred the shred Goodwin in 2008 ,he is still living the high life and never sniffed a jail sentence so don’t be surprised if this lot get away it ,, Phillip green the same .
Not a chance!
And pigs will fly.
She’s stating certain items are not meant to get to her. That’s her get out for not knowing.
As a Christian she should not expect to just 'turn the other cheek'. I propose 'an eye for an eye's This woman is despicable
I would like to know what her Parishioners heard from her mouth and how she could stand in the pulpit and consecrating the Blessed Sacrament may Justin Welby might like to speak up as apparently he was not only in charge of C of E but a personal friend I asked an active Christian have very lite respect for the hierarchy of the Church as they do Not address the problems and go round them just. As Vennells is now
Shameful.
Lots of hind sight, and no real regrets...
And sudden-onset corporate amnesia. "I knew nothing, I saw nothing, I heard nothing. I don't remember anything."
Hindsight? Seems to me they all knew what was going on the whole time.
Absolutely disgraceful 😡
Vennells and her like do not and cannot understand the difference between right or wrong. As long as the post office 'brand' was protected to hell with the sub postmasters. And they have indeed ended up in hell by people like her
She thinks she is above it all. She still thinks that.
She is not very happy now about her wording - (same old gaslighting).
Indeed.
Such bothersome things "words"... not at all what I meant.
I was too busy doing SFA and counting my bonuses.
She'll probably turn up with a puppy or baby next session.
No one else cried. But here she is after £5.1m suddenly becoming a bit limp wristed.
She will be arrested shortly.
Hopefully after paying restitution to her victims!
I really hope so 😢
The Captain of a ship has to know everything that goes on, he can't say I don't know or remember!
Oh the ship hit some rocks and sank, Ah! that's because I wasn't told.
Vennals was in charge and should have known every aspect of what was happening.
Jason Beer.....fantastic!
More lies….
Retirement villages need investigation also . corruption maybe on the vulnerable residents?
Lawyers are going to make a fortune from her
She is a chameleon character. A charade. She can be whoever and whatever is needed provided she is paid and never off the merry-go-round of privilege. At her POL time she was disdainful, elite, above the little people that were being ruined. Now, she is honest, worthy, compassionate. The real Vennells got lost somewhere along the way and now she’s in survival mode.
None of this is her fault and we know this because she says so
Roderic W also called it “noise”. It was clearly habitually used.
Strangely she regrets a lot since being found out such a liar 🤬
She does think she can talk her way out of this , you watch she stiil thinks she has no responsibility for what happened, it was others not me.
Noise!? Yet more derogatory language regarding sub postmasters!
A terrible human/inhuman being
Unfortunately this is not a trial, but an inquiry, so the barrister asking the questions is hindered by 'parliamentary privilege', in other words he's got his hand tied behind his back. This explains why these 'executives' can get away with - I can't recall etc. Their 'legal team' had a specific strategy of preventing any kind of adverse litigation against them from the postmasters. It was and still is very cynical.
they all should be jailed putting inicent people in jail and sitting back laughing at these people in jail disgusting
She is digging the hole she is already in deeper and deeper through her lies and can't remember
It’s amazing how she is now trying to reinterpret what she said in black and white to something that is less insulting.
Hope that the KC asks more questions about what this ‘understanding that the system worked’ was based on regarding Horizon’s integrity. Who tested it? What were their qualifications? Who did they work for? And what did they find out? To whom did they report? These matters need to be nailed down, so that the facts are known. The sub-postmasters have a right and need to know.
Hopefully she'll soon be hearing the noise of cell doors banging shut!
Not a chance. She will be shamed publicly for a bit..a bit of money loss.. nothing else.
She shut down postmasters with highly paid lawyers to stop them making complaints to protect her job and others and the P.O.
Paula Vennells was fully in charge of the whole of the POST OFFICE and refused to accept that the Horizon computer system could or was in any way flaud as it was held up as the panacea to save the POST OFFICES REPUTATION, which was ALL SHE CARED ABOUT!!!! The plight of the Sub PO's was an internal matter that could be dealt with, or so she believed! After all the POST OFFICE COULD TAKE THEM TO COURT WHERE THEY ACTED AS PROSECUTION , JUDGE AND JURY! Which in turn gave her and her staff a high and mighty attitude towards these SubPO's and a refusal to even enter any discussions as to the validity of the Horizon system!
It is truly horrific what happened to so many innocent people. What’s worse though is that so many people must have been in on it. The problems started way before this woman. The system was installed way back in 1999. Where are the people involved before Paula Vennells?
They paid bonuses with the money which was supposed to have been stolen.prison time for this woman
She put innocent people in jail
But she used it now regrets it.
But many other manager's have used gaslighting words
Spinning spinning spinning sining sining
Jail time
Let her hear the noise
Such arrogance of the woman I hope after this they are arrested and charged let a jury decide their fate the post masters deserve justice
Well, it might have been a 'noise' then but it has reached a deafening cacophony now!
Put that witch in jail now!
No one in these big institutions ever goes to prison , they get bonuses for abject failures
Your unhappy now with the word with a word i regret.
Noise == truth
She was making sure her team shut down the truth.
Kudos to Ian Hislop and his crew at Private Eye, for breaking this story!
Ms vennell’s legal expenses preparing for this inquiry must be considerable. Who is paying? I hope it is not the post office.
She earned £10,000 per day! Per day! Per day! I mean...
Irrespective of whether she was good at her job or not, I can never understand how anyone can be worth that kind of money. Knowing now what she has done makes it a thousand times worse of course.
no prison for her, she is establishment, prison is for the plebs
NOISE!,………..oh is that the sound of the little people.
Paula Vennells was ordained as an Anglian Priest in 2006, lol.
It was unwise that anybody ever trusted you or thought you could do anything apart from push the tea trolley round
Her dismissive talk of ‘avoiding noise’ shows where she was at. She wanted it to go away and felt above it all. Life isn’t that easy, and people went to jail and lost everything. Well, they were innocent and she is not, so I’m afraid all of her ilk deserve to lose everything
Vennells needs to be jailed !
This Lead Counsel is excellent !
To think she is an ordained priest. For someone from a religious backgrounds, myself, I have come to see that when I look at people in the church and people in the the world, I often do not see a lot of difference.
Second site came in and saw all the problems, disorganisation and faults.....vennells and co decided they were a nuisance....you dont want real insight do you?
Verdict not guilty 🤪 all the way to the local post office to get her millions she acquired through hard work and underhandedness x
Friends of Welby dont do jail time period
She ain't walking away from this Scott free. There's an avalanche of evidence to support her being prosecuted for perverting the course of justice, perjury and fraud. All Welby can do is give her a character reference before sentencing.
Totally agree and WHERE IS YHR MONEY SHE and THE SYSTEM ROBBED OFF all the poor victims
Noise ..... Her guilt via negligence is rather loud....
Trying to avoid her responsibility.
She regrets being caught out. She regrets nothing.
They all need to be put on trail, for the damaged they have caused. They need to be made to pay back all their bonuses. They have lies so meany time
I’m sorry I’ve been caught.
Prison awaits Vennells, pack your bags.😂
In a couple of years her obe will be silently returned😊
Of course it was exactly what she thought it was at the time - noise.
Move over Norman Stanley Fletcher u getting a new cell mate very soon.
No chance, but they deserve jail time
She says that she loved the post office, and just wanted it to be as good as possible. Which raises questions about motivation. When she said she wanted it to be as good as possible - by what standards? In whose eyes? Just saying you want something to be good is a motherhood statement - meaningless. At the very least she must have had some sort of targets against which she was measuring her performance - what were they? One suspect that whatever they were, doing the right thing by subpostmasters would have hurt her chances of achieving those targets.
For organisations to function well usually involves people having their "hearts in the right place". A good leader makes it perfectly clear where their heart is, and that makes it easy for everyone in the organisation to know what to do and how to behave. And when people don't behave accordingly, a good leader reminds them of what is expected. So many in POL behaved badly, which must surely be a reflection on the leadership.
It reflects her attitude to people she thinks are below her high horse status basically she thinks she’s better than them but this proves she is a bully and a bigot and should be locked up for what she has put everyone through .but I doubt anything will happen to her
I hate to see anyone thrown to the wolves but that's exactly what she did to all those poor sub postmasters but by all appearances she looks like a patsy and there's a price for everything (if you can afford it) and that includes a first class stamp as well as being paid to take the flack for a rotten organisation bent on making a profit..
Psychopaths are very cunning and crafty. Paula Vennells knows exactly what she's doing, using manipulation and deflecting responsibility off herself and rather unto others. Every move is calculated, planned, manipulated, and controlled. You see her doing this over and over again in the Inquiry. She's a master chess player in this exercise. Let's hope Sir Wyn will checkmate her.
For an alleged christian, she certainly doesn't act like one.
Ceo job seems easy nobody tells you anythingyou dont do anything& blame everybody else for failures while collecting large wage & bonus for failing to do your job
Why shouldn't it have reached he?
Prison known our system at the moment she ll get a damehood in the house of lords strip her of everything n also all her religious status
Justin Welby won't do that easily why not???? Because it is part of the WEAK management of the C of E I wonder what Jesus Christ his 'boss' is thinking of this situation because it is not what He preached
She is very Cold
evil.
callous.
monster.
Let’s hear from the bloke who wakes up next to her every morning !,…..god help him.
Another sorry.
THIS woman is a christian .. apparently. 😞
Just sayin' ...
This woman must be punished, she must go to jail for several years.
She got her 3 million pound bonus. What she did as a corporate psychopath is just collateral damage as far as she is concerned.