Normally good sound artists will add random tone variations to sound effects so it doesn't end up like this one where it's as though someone is hitting replay on a sound sample over and over again. Terrible stuff.
I've always loved Silent Hill 4 but seriously... Another part that always stood out as a "wtf guys" moment is a little later, at the bottom of the water prison, when all the twin victims are lined up perfectly, like the devs just Gmod copy/pasted their models... I'm interested to see what Vinny says when he reaches that part, he will no doubt comment of how out of place it is.
One sure thing is they didn't know how to animate and program falling monsters, they just made a "slide the model a bit with a burp until floor is flat". What a mess of a game lol
I’m almost positive this was intentional and they wanted to simulate characters rolling down the steps when they died, but it did not translate well or came out unpolished.
@@JacobKinsley To be more precise, it's what results in a sound sounding higher pitched when its source is quickly moving towards you, but lower pitched when moving away from you. In the video we hear the sound getting quieter, which is not the same thing, but does accompany the Doppler effect.
@@grunkleg.2934 I think that there's potentially some cultural aspects to it as well. I'm not sure how true it is, however I have seen some claims online about Japanese people having a serious taboo concerning flatulence. It's possible that from the perspective of the person doing the sound design it may not read the same way. It would probably still be funny to an extent, but there's potentially another layer to it, kind of like how in Elden Ring the Loathsome Dung Eater is meant to be threatening precisely because he kills people by eating ass and sucking the life out of people through their anus, whereas to you or me that may just be laughable. That said, I think that it's definitely intended to be absurd when they fall down the stairs like that.
@@casanovafunkenstein5090You can pick up a lot of japanese absurdism and horror in SH4 especifically, since it feels so different as a Silent Hill Game, so it kinda makes sense.
@casanovafunkenstein5090 Okay, so I'm trying to find any lore on what you said about the loathsome dung eater, but the only thing I found about why he's called that was a Japanese myth that a common belief is that the human soul is encased within a specific organ in.. the poo poo area some may say. But yeah would like to know where you found out about that, did not know he threw salad
Thing is, i kinda get the idea they had. Bloated corpses full of rotten air inside of them due to decomposing is metal as hell. But even SH2 had the decency of having more than one sound effect for its enemies.
i agree it just needed an actual impact sound, and better timing. it also needed to be way less generic. a burp makes sense, but not one from a random sound effects cd. bespoke burpage was required. it needed to sound properly dark, and dead, and gutted. air exploding directly from wounds you’re making in the stomach, stuff like that. mix it up definitely
These enemies have nothing on the horrifying sounds lying figures make lol. Yamaoka couldve gone for something similar to that, im convinced he was just burnt out from having just finished the masterpiece that was Silent Hill 3
SH3 has such insane visuals and sound design, im sure this is why some SH4 fans are salty about 3 being clearly the favorite of the two lmao. I mean 4 has backed in lighting and last-minute uncooked sfx and have no interesting textures and second half just reuses assets. Mommy Team Silent playing favorites
There's so many stock sound effects in this one that I can't help but feel like they were just placeholders that ended up getting left in because they ran out of time.
@@datguy9408Yep! The composer for the Resident Evil director's cut (and also Onimusha: Warlords) pretended to be deaf for nearly 20 years, until it came out that 1) he can hear perfectly fine and 2) all of his work was ghostwritten.
So, when you first get there, you see Wally removing some organs from one of those nurses, presumably their lungs. Meaning there's no lungs to make sounds, so instead they can only expel gas from their stomachs. I get the theory behind why they burp, but it will still always be one of the funniest things.
@@ЭльдарСергазин-ч3д He's reaching a bit high for womb isn't he? Though I guess that WOULD fit the game's theme of childbirth more. You know what, you're probably right, I don't know why the fuck they burp then. It's JUST funny now.
Looking at the patient's model there's a clearly visible scar around her belly, and also I think her tits were cut out too? I think Walter just completely mutilated her aspects of feminity and motherhood. As for why they burp I feel it was because sound design in a lot of places was made in a rush. Remember dog's cheetah stock sounds, gumhead's monkey and bear stock sounds. Akira Yamaoka did use stock effects in previous games too but they were all combined and distorted beyond recognition. And considering that he was a producer, composer and sound designer for both Silent Hill 3 and 4 which were made in parallel, I think he probably just didn't have time to finalize the sounds.
Like the one with Winnie the Pooh pulsating inside a tree, then ejecting himself out of the tree and the tv, and his rump just lands an inch deep into his mouth Undescribable
Someone said that they are bloated corpses and that the burps are gas being liberated. Makes sense but there had to be a better way to accomplish that.
They could definitely have made like a grotesque popping wet bag sound or something for that, which could be really unsettling. Instead they just went with... deep fried belch.
The worst part is even in the isolation of this clip, the monster before you know what was genuinely intimadating. The way it just quietly walked over, Vinny running away, that strafe side to side while squaring up with it. It's a shame really. At least you can appreciate an equally genuine f*ck up, it's how you can know that something is real.
According to the Wiki, the burping-like sounds may possibly indicate the emission of gases produced from bodily decomposition, specifically from where the lungs and uterus were removed. This may even tie them into Eileen; when the whiteboard with Eileen's x-rays is more clearly visible in a cutscene, the term "vomicae" is present, which is a condition where a pus-filled cavity caused by tissue decay, typically in the lungs, is found and causes the expulsion of the vile fluid. Perhaps the Patients are a vision of what Walter planned of Eileen's body to become.
Yeah, when I first played SH4 I was really confused by this, and I thought this was some kind of sound-related bug? The thing also looks really freaky and barely makes any other sounds than this.
I was watching this live and i think it was when he reached the hospital world him and chat were discussing the enemy sounds and he said something like “but no they don’t take away from the atmosphere for me” I was like “if you didn’t think the enemy sounds were distracting before you will soon”
I heard mess up funny reason why that monster burps, it mostly a walking corpse with built up gas that some real dead bodies can do. I kinda wonder why there isn't any gassy zombies in zombie movies.
There's a scene in Zombie Vs Mardi Gras where a guy gets zombified while in the middle of shitting, and he walks around making fart.mp3 sounds. But that's not quite what you were asking, I just have PTSD from that movie
A plausible explanation would be that the zombies reanimate faster than the gas buildup could start, with the movement of their bodies forcing the gas out. That said, it would make sense that they would be burping (and possibly farting) throughout the entirety of their shambling, saddening existence.
Same game series that had an empty room that serves no purpose other than to repeatedly play a glass shattering sound effect every few seconds (it's in the silent hill 1 main channel video)
If I remember correctly, this particular Silent Hill installment also has the Ed Edd N Eddy jaguar sound effect for when you stomp on the stunned demon dogs
So a little PSA about this silly sound, it’s actually meant to be gases from the monster’s decomposing hollow body. It’s funny but that does help give it a little more depth
Not having any impact sound at all was a bad decision and the sound they used is borderline whoopee cushion sounds lol. There are sounds of gas escaping flesh (sucking chest wounds) that would have worked fine but that wasn't in the stock sound catalogue I guess 😂
Designing legitimate fear is really tough. There is visual design, sound design, methods for movement, lighting, building up tension, etc. If even *one* of these isn’t implemented well, the whole mood/atmosphere is ruined. It’s why we see more bad horror projects than good. It’s tricky! This video is a comical example of the fragility of the genre.
IIRC the story behind this sound effect was that the original sound was "too much", like it was meant to evoke corpse gas wheezing out, so someone decided to replace it at the last minute. At least, that's the story I heard.
*Audio Designer:* "I think I forgot something." *Producer:* "If you forgot, then it wasn't important." *Audio Designer:* "Yeah, you're right." _the "burp.mp3" placeholder sound effect_
SH4 has many great qualities........ ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... But some of its enemy hit sounds is not one of them 😭 It's so unfortunate too because the burping nurses are really scary looking, they just have one of the dumbest SFX possible.
• low quality
• ill-fitting
• wrong volume
Yep. Worst sound effect.
sounds like normal SH4 to me
*best
Other bullet points:
• lack of situational deviation
• lack of impact (no hit sound from your weapon)
Normally good sound artists will add random tone variations to sound effects so it doesn't end up like this one where it's as though someone is hitting replay on a sound sample over and over again. Terrible stuff.
It's a PS2 game dude that being said I have no other arguements it was as fuckin weird then as it was now
The complete lack of impact sound is killing me almost as much
The burp IS the impact sound! They burp from the freshly axed holes
@@SoberCake Erupting gas out their axe holes, you could say...
@@Chicky_Lumpsboy if I had a nickel
@@Chicky_Lumps Ahh Chipotle Grill
They knew exactly what they where doing when they put those enemies in the staircase lmao
I've always loved Silent Hill 4 but seriously...
Another part that always stood out as a "wtf guys" moment is a little later, at the bottom of the water prison, when all the twin victims are lined up perfectly, like the devs just Gmod copy/pasted their models...
I'm interested to see what Vinny says when he reaches that part, he will no doubt comment of how out of place it is.
One sure thing is they didn't know how to animate and program falling monsters, they just made a "slide the model a bit with a burp until floor is flat". What a mess of a game lol
I’m almost positive this was intentional and they wanted to simulate characters rolling down the steps when they died, but it did not translate well or came out unpolished.
@@neirinjoseph6817What where the hallways extremely large but shrinks near the door?
@@eatanotherzio6811 yes lmao
Yo, all that terror in the design, and they seriously hit em with the burp.mp3
This is by far the worst part, these enemies look so fucking cool... and then you hit them...
That went from a "nope, not touching that" to "yep, im gonna need to touch four of them at once".
youtubers when they get popular
are we still talking about the enemy?
miners
PAUSE AAAYYYOOOOOO
AYYYYYT YOOOOI
The burp sounds fading as the enemy slides down the stairs is truly the icing on that cake.
Doppler effect is inherently comedy gold.
@@Feuerhamster That's not what the doppler effect is.
@@Feuerhamster That would've made it funnier yeah.
@@Mabra51 Dopler effect is when thing moves away from you
@@JacobKinsley To be more precise, it's what results in a sound sounding higher pitched when its source is quickly moving towards you, but lower pitched when moving away from you.
In the video we hear the sound getting quieter, which is not the same thing, but does accompany the Doppler effect.
I'd like to imagine a programmer added this sound in as a joke during testing, but forgot to change it back
@@grunkleg.2934 I think that there's potentially some cultural aspects to it as well.
I'm not sure how true it is, however I have seen some claims online about Japanese people having a serious taboo concerning flatulence.
It's possible that from the perspective of the person doing the sound design it may not read the same way. It would probably still be funny to an extent, but there's potentially another layer to it, kind of like how in Elden Ring the Loathsome Dung Eater is meant to be threatening precisely because he kills people by eating ass and sucking the life out of people through their anus, whereas to you or me that may just be laughable.
That said, I think that it's definitely intended to be absurd when they fall down the stairs like that.
@@casanovafunkenstein5090You can pick up a lot of japanese absurdism and horror in SH4 especifically, since it feels so different as a Silent Hill Game, so it kinda makes sense.
@@casanovafunkenstein5090 Are you serious about the Dung Eater, I did NOT pick up that particular... detail of his behaviors.
@@casanovafunkenstein5090 Oh so he's a kappa.
@casanovafunkenstein5090 Okay, so I'm trying to find any lore on what you said about the loathsome dung eater, but the only thing I found about why he's called that was a Japanese myth that a common belief is that the human soul is encased within a specific organ in.. the poo poo area some may say.
But yeah would like to know where you found out about that, did not know he threw salad
I swear this sounds like a corruption, especially when the monster slides down the stairs
Wait I thought this was a corruption. Whoever was doing the sound mixing was sick that day ig 😭.
0:51 sounds like a bad mobile game in the way it just repeats the same exact sound over and over
Yeah, but only difference it was before any bad mobile games.
The enemies burping down the stairs and getting quieter as they descend is elite
Thing is, i kinda get the idea they had. Bloated corpses full of rotten air inside of them due to decomposing is metal as hell. But even SH2 had the decency of having more than one sound effect for its enemies.
i agree it just needed an actual impact sound, and better timing. it also needed to be way less generic. a burp makes sense, but not one from a random sound effects cd. bespoke burpage was required. it needed to sound properly dark, and dead, and gutted. air exploding directly from wounds you’re making in the stomach, stuff like that. mix it up definitely
@@tonoornottonoand it probably should've had a weak whistling echo, as if remaining gases were escaping from the wound, unrestrained.
These enemies have nothing on the horrifying sounds lying figures make lol. Yamaoka couldve gone for something similar to that, im convinced he was just burnt out from having just finished the masterpiece that was Silent Hill 3
SH3 has such insane visuals and sound design, im sure this is why some SH4 fans are salty about 3 being clearly the favorite of the two lmao. I mean 4 has backed in lighting and last-minute uncooked sfx and have no interesting textures and second half just reuses assets. Mommy Team Silent playing favorites
Maybe more of a sort of death rattle, like, guttural gross sounds. Not just a belch…
0:16 now that's a joel-tier laugh, right down to needing to pause the game almost immediately upon its onset
Vinny stream
Joel laugh
Mike pause
@@JacobKinsley poetry
Proof that Vinny and Joel are the same person.
He even muffles it halfway through too
BORP
Yamaoka: "Now what sound would these horrible creatures make when struck?"
Coworker: *burps*
Yamaoka: "Perfect!"
It was not Yamaoka
**burps an stock burp sound effect**
@@NikoKozlowitz Did he stop doing the sound after 3? I thought 4 was the final Team Silent release, so assumed he was involved.
There's so many stock sound effects in this one that I can't help but feel like they were just placeholders that ended up getting left in because they ran out of time.
So I know it sounds ridiculous but the noise is supposed to be natural gases leaving their hollow bodies. It’s silly, but it does make it creepier
using that stock sound library to its greatest effect
This has the same vibe as Clowns Farting In The Basement from Resident Evil Director's Cut.
Patients Burping Down the Staircase
a disaster so bad the composer pretended to be tone deaf for like 2 decades.
Are you serious????
@@datguy9408Yep! The composer for the Resident Evil director's cut (and also Onimusha: Warlords) pretended to be deaf for nearly 20 years, until it came out that 1) he can hear perfectly fine and 2) all of his work was ghostwritten.
At least if you put it in the correct soundfont it sounds good. Burpmania here has no such excuse.
Good? Never.
Memorable? Absolutely.
I watched someone play through this when it came out, will never forget those belching stair monsters
At least it's not screaming and farting
average Chipotle experience.
Real helping your bro lift at the gym experience
@@JeanMarceaux hey bro did you need someone to spot you? Oh that? Its my workout playlist.
That would be Jeremy Elbertson: the game
I CAN'T! I CAN'T...... STOP! I'M GONNA PASS OUT!!!!!
out of context this makes silent hill 4 look like it has the quality of stray souls
I find it funny that I instantly recognized your channel icon as dark nebula’s eye lol
crazy how one little bad decision can give you a very different perception of a game, especially if it's isolated like it is in this clip
@@Horst_RadishI always think it's kirby goatse
@@JacobKinsleyi miss 15 seconds ago when i didn't read that 😂
@@badabingeeexactly that’s like if the nurses started to moan
It just changes the whole vibe
So, when you first get there, you see Wally removing some organs from one of those nurses, presumably their lungs. Meaning there's no lungs to make sounds, so instead they can only expel gas from their stomachs. I get the theory behind why they burp, but it will still always be one of the funniest things.
I think he was removing their wombs.
@@ЭльдарСергазин-ч3д He's reaching a bit high for womb isn't he? Though I guess that WOULD fit the game's theme of childbirth more.
You know what, you're probably right, I don't know why the fuck they burp then. It's JUST funny now.
Looking at the patient's model there's a clearly visible scar around her belly, and also I think her tits were cut out too? I think Walter just completely mutilated her aspects of feminity and motherhood. As for why they burp I feel it was because sound design in a lot of places was made in a rush. Remember dog's cheetah stock sounds, gumhead's monkey and bear stock sounds. Akira Yamaoka did use stock effects in previous games too but they were all combined and distorted beyond recognition. And considering that he was a producer, composer and sound designer for both Silent Hill 3 and 4 which were made in parallel, I think he probably just didn't have time to finalize the sounds.
they burped belchily down the stairs
This looks like a bit straight out of Caddicarus.
Like the one with Winnie the Pooh pulsating inside a tree, then ejecting himself out of the tree and the tv, and his rump just lands an inch deep into his mouth
Undescribable
its like an earthbound bit
@@ChesterManfred WHAT
context please???
@@qawdzsoejojrjgvrgvjrjrdgvjedso The Useless World of PS1 Accessories the theme starts by 1:11:45
@@qawdzsoejojrjgvrgvjrjrdgvjedso Daddy Caddy is the context
*BURP*
BURP
*burp*
burp
1:22 when my car tires are screeching
Oh god this video keeps on giving
Someone said that they are bloated corpses and that the burps are gas being liberated. Makes sense but there had to be a better way to accomplish that.
They could definitely have made like a grotesque popping wet bag sound or something for that, which could be really unsettling. Instead they just went with... deep fried belch.
Or add wet squelching that follows so it sounds like bile being spilled out.
The one enemy that i can't help but uncontrollably laugh at upon sending down the stairs
OH GOD, AND HOW IT SLIDES DOWN THE STAIRS WHILE BURPING
MY SIDES AHHGH
the belching stairs had to be intentional 😆
Master Belch
The terror from the encounter completely evaporated the second it made that noise. It'll never be scary again. Amazing what bad sound design can do
1:21 just like me fr
Am I fighting unspeakable horrors or Barney from Simpson?
You're fighting burpable horrors
The aftermath of a muckbang video. (Also, hi BB, I know you from Mugen :D)
me after a bountiful feast
(Taco Bell)
typical cruelty squad npc be like
"Alright, this enemy is too scary. How do we alleviate that?"
1:50 Quite possible, the best wheeze I've ever heard.
That enemy probably has indigestion.
tell them to take their omeprazole then???
This monster represents the protagonist indigestion
Vinny should offer it his tums.
Team Silent showed no restraint on the unedited stock sound effects in SH4.
Least it came out the attic and not the basement
As soon as I saw it was Silent Hill 4, I immediately knew what the sound was gonna be
/this/ is the game that needs remastering only because I would love to see what they would do to this particular sfx
/why/ did you phrase it like /that/
@@johnyamahakeyboard7472they were probably trying to make the text appear in italics
add reverb
Remaster all the audio but use the exact same burp effect so it sticks out even more than it already does
@@paul-nj1ig But you _can_ make text appear in italics on youtube
The worst part is even in the isolation of this clip, the monster before you know what was genuinely intimadating. The way it just quietly walked over, Vinny running away, that strafe side to side while squaring up with it. It's a shame really. At least you can appreciate an equally genuine f*ck up, it's how you can know that something is real.
I like to imagine the dev burped into the laptop mic during extremely early development stages and literally no one noticed the entire time
"what were they THINKING?" ~ AVGN
i just love how the atmospheric music is just completely ruined by the burp medley lol
This is peak Yamaoka sound design
According to the Wiki, the burping-like sounds may possibly indicate the emission of gases produced from bodily decomposition, specifically from where the lungs and uterus were removed. This may even tie them into Eileen; when the whiteboard with Eileen's x-rays is more clearly visible in a cutscene, the term "vomicae" is present, which is a condition where a pus-filled cavity caused by tissue decay, typically in the lungs, is found and causes the expulsion of the vile fluid. Perhaps the Patients are a vision of what Walter planned of Eileen's body to become.
Yeah, when I first played SH4 I was really confused by this, and I thought this was some kind of sound-related bug? The thing also looks really freaky and barely makes any other sounds than this.
THE STAIRS HAHAHAHA
I was watching this live and i think it was when he reached the hospital world him and chat were discussing the enemy sounds and he said something like “but no they don’t take away from the atmosphere for me”
I was like “if you didn’t think the enemy sounds were distracting before you will soon”
I heard mess up funny reason why that monster burps,
it mostly a walking corpse with built up gas that some real dead bodies can do.
I kinda wonder why there isn't any gassy zombies in zombie movies.
this clip is why
There's a scene in Zombie Vs Mardi Gras where a guy gets zombified while in the middle of shitting, and he walks around making fart.mp3 sounds. But that's not quite what you were asking, I just have PTSD from that movie
@@MatthewPherigo
lol I think there's a reason why they don't make undead 100 percent accurate to how a real body works in films.
@@c-puff Yup, be more of a comedy then a horror series, in the walking dead XD
A plausible explanation would be that the zombies reanimate faster than the gas buildup could start, with the movement of their bodies forcing the gas out. That said, it would make sense that they would be burping (and possibly farting) throughout the entirety of their shambling, saddening existence.
That enemy is relatable ngl
The disciples of Master Belch
sound design is my passion
Same game series that had an empty room that serves no purpose other than to repeatedly play a glass shattering sound effect every few seconds (it's in the silent hill 1 main channel video)
Yeah but that shit is unnerving, this is just hilarious
Truly the horror game series ever
hey dont u talk bad about the earlier games. Silent Hill 4 has some questionable choices but 1 - 3 are great
When you talk to Captain Blubber in Banjo-Kazooie
Oh my god you even included the stair one
Who the fuck at the Konami sound team thought this was a good idea, unless this wasn't even revised and shipped without realization
Akira Yamaoka
If I remember correctly, this particular Silent Hill installment also has the Ed Edd N Eddy jaguar sound effect for when you stomp on the stunned demon dogs
Little Mac hitting a staggered King Hippo in Punch-Out Wii
when you talk to master belch in earthbound:
I had some trapped wind, thanks man
I read somewhere this game was rushed out so several soundeffects are placeholders than never got fixed
*most hilarious sound ever
I lost my marbles when he went down the stairs.
What were they thinking, holy shit
The last half of Silent Hill 4 is like "yeah guys we have 0 budget"
I've been looking forward to this ever since Vinny started the game
It just sounds like someone put that as a joke/placeholder and then completely forgot to change it before the game released
As magical as this enemy is, what really made me lose it was Vinny going "where's Eileen, she needs to see this."
Apparently it’s supposed to be the sound of a bloated corpse expelling gas but…uh…yeah
As I listened to monster sound effects of all SIlent Hill games I lost my shit there.
For such a nightmarish looking enemy they sure ruined any fear of them with the sound
I swear they just used a bunch of stock sounds in this game. Like the jaguar noises for the dogs
Does this dude subside exclusively on extra bubbly soda?
I love how you can just completely turn something scary into the funniest thing ever if you just fuck up bad enough
Ever since Vin said he’d be playing SH4 I was anticipating this moment lol
More like the best sound effects
Well, that's one way to kill any tension your game might've had.
henry is just like vinny
very handsome
I have been waiting for this video from the moment I saw what Vinny was playing
survival comedy game
I remember this. I was so terrified of that enemy, only for the fear to completely disappear...
So a little PSA about this silly sound, it’s actually meant to be gases from the monster’s decomposing hollow body. It’s funny but that does help give it a little more depth
Not having any impact sound at all was a bad decision and the sound they used is borderline whoopee cushion sounds lol. There are sounds of gas escaping flesh (sucking chest wounds) that would have worked fine but that wasn't in the stock sound catalogue I guess 😂
"no bruh, sh4 is the best, its the scariest in the franchise" man stfu 😭😭
How to make a horror game into a comedy: Step 1, Add Burp sound effects.
I heard it was supposed to be gases escaping the decomposing body, but no one got that.
I like how that IMMEDIATELY changes the viewpoint of the enemy from disturbing to hilarious
Designing legitimate fear is really tough. There is visual design, sound design, methods for movement, lighting, building up tension, etc. If even *one* of these isn’t implemented well, the whole mood/atmosphere is ruined.
It’s why we see more bad horror projects than good. It’s tricky! This video is a comical example of the fragility of the genre.
I legit thought Vinny was laughing at his own ill-timed burp.
IIRC the story behind this sound effect was that the original sound was "too much", like it was meant to evoke corpse gas wheezing out, so someone decided to replace it at the last minute. At least, that's the story I heard.
I honestly did think it was Vinny the first time
*Audio Designer:* "I think I forgot something."
*Producer:* "If you forgot, then it wasn't important."
*Audio Designer:* "Yeah, you're right."
_the "burp.mp3" placeholder sound effect_
just sounds like a disgruntled dev burped into a mic and just threw the sound into the game as funny prank
At first, I thought that sound was Vinny. It just couldn't compute in my head that they would make something that scuffed.
It’s perfect, it’s everything I’ve ever wanted in life.
It is a rite of passage for everyone who plays Silent Hill 4 to knock the Belching Nurses down the stairs.
wait WHAT
Maybe my sense of humor is degraded beyond repair but i have literal tears, this is the best comedy game ever
I think you mean greatest sound effect ever
SH4 has many great qualities........
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But some of its enemy hit sounds is not one of them 😭
It's so unfortunate too because the burping nurses are really scary looking, they just have one of the dumbest SFX possible.