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I think the cutest way to build this is just a sneaky Maze's End deck. Don't even run any of the other gates so people don't see it coming. Just plop the counters on lands with different names, Maze's End, win the game!
Problem is the speed of doing it, takes what 8-9 turns? That’s if the commander can hit someone every turn. I think the ideal situation is flicker effects. To speed up this alternative win condition. As in unblockable effects like rogues passage then end step flicker to double the counters.
Most gate cards are pretty slow anyway so this is a good idea anyway.
@@amodking actually if you have something like a mana bank (like the god that got shown in the video) and a cloudpost + vesuva (or copy land or thespians stage (set to copy cloudpost) or mana reflection) and maybe a way to give her hast such as the boots you can afford to place her and attack each turn as you would generate at least 2 more colorless for each locus you have and new land becoming locus means that, also you can search for planar nexus with gate end if you didn't have it already so that's another way to accelerate it (also the ammount of ramp such as uro or the one to search 2 lands and placing onto the battlefield is gonna make this go crazy)
I want win this deck for the sole reason of putting helm of the host into this deck and take out one of the tap land. Wizards! Why not just put that card into the precon. Omo is literally wearing it!
Not sure why mazes end isn’t the number 1 auto include for alternative win condition lol 😝
@@amodking I guess thats awesome if u go kinda blink theme
Watched several videos of these decks in action today and this one has been my favorite so far. Im most excited to get my hands on this one. I recently got back into Magic after 10+ years of not playing, and my pod have all been talking about these decks. We're all pretty excited about these
I run this strategy in Dimir already but I’m excited to see it in Simic.
I think mirage mirror can be a versatile keep for this deck and enable a larger amount of mana later in the game for those X spells. Spending 2 to turn it into another cloudpost could net you a positive of 7-8+ mana later in the game. I was thinking of it more that it's a good funnel to make more mana with extra utility.
I have looked at this deck for all of the mana synergies with Everything Counters, Urza lands and Mana Reflections. A player in my play group is the best at generating mana and has built multiple decks which do that.
I think my card I would add in would be Nyxbloom Ancient and lean into the mana increases to support keeping Omo in play. If she gets removed then it takes away the everything counters. Having tens or hundreds of mana means you can always replay her.
I should win this deck because I'd like to take an approach with this deck that I'm not sure many people are taking and that will hopefully inspire others to do the same. I'd like to focus on Typal. I want to use as many typal cards as possible to monopolize on the everything tokens, while still having a few win cons up my sleeve.
Since I'm focusing on creatures and their types, I will put some of the land-oriented effects to the wayside and focus more on lords and bonuses that reward us for having these creatures hang out on the battlefield.
Here's a few of the cards that I'm adding in:
Coat of Arms (Cool math games)
Herald of Hoofbeats (Look at my horse!)
Master of the Pearl Trident, Hakbal of the Surging Soul, and Kumena, Tyrant of Orazca (Beach Bois)
Baru, Wurmspeaker (Think Dune, but not really)
Manaweft, Gemhide, Synapse, and Galerider Sliver (SLIVERS!!!)
I'm also adding in some of these cards to support the deck's strategies in general:
Aven Courier (Please read this card if you haven't already!)
Multiclass Baldric (Party cards are fun)
Whelming Wave (wwwwwWipeout!)
As for the cards that will be taken out, I think most of the lands matter strategy will take a back burner, and many of the new cards from the deck will have to find homes somewhere else, but I'm sure that this approach to Omo will be unique and fun enough to give inspiration for a build using the backup commander soon!
Thank you for the video and I hope (even if this comment isn't chosen) that this get people brainstorming on some ideas of their own!
I'd swap out the Replication Technique for a Bonny Pall, Clearcutter. It'll give you 2 big bodies, one with reach, the other gets bigger the more lands you have. Then Bonny's ability will let you draw a card an put a land from your hand or the graveyard on the field when you attack with anything. They seem to fit the theme well.
This is the deck that fully, 100% justifies my stanning Amulet of Vigor. I borrowed a copy of this deck, and all I can say, is that my other 3 lands decks pale in comparison, and I could go an entire event weekend with this and Disa in my Quiver and feel fully loaded. The only changes I made (and would make should I be super lucky) were to remove the secondary commander (Jyoti), the Sol Ring, and a Forest to add in the Amulet of Vigor, a Bident of Thassa and a Conduit of Worlds.
I love the feel of this deck, land-based decks that aren’t just landfall are really interesting to me, and I love the idea of running the Urza’s lands in an EDH deck.
Honestly, my first thought on changes is if we want to get a decent number of everything counters going we want ways to make our 1/5 keyword-less commander reliably attack, so my first cut and replace would be cutting Quandrix Campus (just a bad land, imo) for Access Tunnel. Also I’d want to add Maze’s End cos it would be funny to make that work, so probably cut the Thornwood Falls. Nonland I’d add Xolatoyac from the Merfolk Caverns precon, that seems like it could do good work in this, probably cut Tatyova for it.
My adds: Bonny Pall, Spelunking, and World Shaper.
My cuts: Jyoti, Summary dismissal, and Harmonize.
I hope I win this deck for two reasons:
1) I played MTG in the early 2000s, took an 18 year break, and was reintroduced to MTG in 2021 when some friends got me into EDH! One of the biggest things I've learned since then is how important mana base/good lands are, and this deck has a bunch to help me get a good collection of lands!
2) An under-built commander I want to build is Nine-Fingers Keene. Lots of good cards from this deck that play well into that one.
Thanks for your content, just found this channel and look forward to looking at past videos too.
I noticed you added 20 cards but cut 18, thanks for adding the moxfield link, I was able to figure out that Evacuation & Overflowing Basin was also part of the cuts. Thanks for a great video! Cheers :D
I didn’t think I would like any other deck other than eldrazi, but after seeing some gameplay of this deck, IT RAMPPPPPS LIKE CRAZY would definitely like to see how wild it can get with a few upgrades.
I think I like this deck concept the best from the release. For some reason "everything is anything" keeps popping up in my head and I kinda like it. As a noob tricky terrain sounds helpful
I honestly just want this so I can grow my deck collection and because I think this is by far the coolest precon in MH3 that has been shown. I only have two other decks as I have just recently gotten into magic a month or two ago, and due to that I may also be terribly wrong in what I would replace, but I feel like it would make the deck more enjoyable. I personally would replace Seer’s sundial for Aesi, tyrant of Gyre straight, just to add an extra land drop every turn as well as not having to pay two to draw everytime a land etb’s.
I do agree with what you've subtracted from the deck. Kind of going off a multitribal idea would be adding things like Descendant's Path to get creatures out for free. If hydras are being played for a lot of x cost, hooded hydra is always excellent. A card like genesis wave might come in handy, but it's a risk for the X costing 0. On the blue side, maybe instead of doppelgang, add in a rite of replication? It costs less for the initial copy, and then for 4 more, you can get 5 copies of a creature instead, which would cost 15 extra mana on doppelgang.
I will admit that I do not have so much card knowledge to add a lot off the top of my head.. but those just seem like fun additions.
The basic precon itself is... okay, but I love that you can go into a lot of directions with the deck once you upgrade it
Out of the four, this deck is the one I'd consider the best. I feel like a strategy that can abuse the different land types would be fun to explore. Adding in cards like Maze's End and the Baldur's Gate gate lands would add a pretty satisfying wincon. Plus, I'd like to see how much mana output we could get Urza's Workshop and the locus lands can get to. 😊
This is the deck I'm more excited about, it's so original I love Omo's ability and I'd really love to get my hands on it. The very first card I would include is Life From The Loam, I'd like to take advantage of the variety of land types abilities on this deck, so to me the best way to either get the Urzatron, or the Locus strategy, or some nice deserts is by having access to them through the graveyard. So a ton of self mill and play lands from your graveyard effects which we've got a few new in the past couple years.
The first card to take out, I think it would be Hydra Broodmaster, the deck already has a good number of finishers and I try to always look at the bigger drops for cuts, among the big guys in here Hydra doesn't really interact much with landrops other than being a mana sink, so that would be the card to take out.
Thanks for the opportunity :) and very nice video
Using the base from these precons and using it on a Temur aggro deck just sounds like fun. Animar is going to enjoy having every great creature at the table
I love the idea of the everything counter as a way to enable typal effects. I used to have a Grolnok, the Omnivore deck, which I eventually ended up taking apart just because there wasn't enough very strong frogs in simic colors to make the deck function well. With Omo's counters and ways to generate big mana, it is making me want throw Grolno in the deck as a secret commander. Then just find a bunch of other typal/lord effects that make some actual/evasive deadly frogs/sliver/merfolk/hydra/etc creatures, and ways to untap my lands/creatures to keep defenses up.
I would likely cut a lot of the landfall and some of the X spells. The subcommander from the deck is actually the perfect cut for me from this deck, as I have a man-lands deck with Jolrael, Voice of Zhalfir that what slot perfectly into.
Baldur’s gate and Academy Ruins feel like a good fit for this - and dare I say Oko, the Ringleader as a way to help protect your board or build up some treasures for a rainy turn. Absolutely agree on helm of the host, too. Maybe mask of memory as well?
This deck simply spoke to me. All of the precons (wait, MH3 precons?? whatever) looked interesting but this seemed to open entirely new ways to play. This commander and theme are refreshing and I am so excited to see how the mechanics will play out. Not sure which way to take the deck yet but looking forward to your upgrade guide.
I love this fresh take on simic, pretty cool idea. I like how the deck focuses on land aspect of everything counter.
Right off the bat, I'm takin out the landfall stuff. Im putting in Staff of Ages definetely. I'm also adding lord effects like Master of waves,Merrow Commerce,Biowaste blob etc etc. I'd be leaning hard into the everything counter as so many good tribal lords in simic colors so i think would get disgusting fast.
I want this deck, but I would definitely add more creature support to make the everything counters on your creatures matter more. Definitely would add baulders gate and would probably cut the back up commander as I don’t think it fits in well
I love the idea of turning the deck into land type matters as a lands decks rather than another landfall esc deck if I would add something it would probably end up replacing any tap lands just to start
I really like some of your additions, and don’t know how I missed a couple of them. I plan to go with a Sliver sub theme for buffing my krakens and a couple merfolk from the MKM precon to help dig through the deck. I also went with the the “Vesuvan” cards and Helm of the Hosts, just for fun. Playtest has been pretty good so far. I would definitely keep Mirage Mirror.
1 Aftermath Analyst (MKM) 148
1 Arcane Signet (PIP) 224
1 Ash Barrens (PIP) 253
1 Bloatfly Swarm (PIP) 42
1 Bloodchief Ascension (CMM) 139
1 Branching Evolution (PIP) 195
1 Brawn (MOC) 292
1 Bred for the Hunt (40K) 222
1 Command Tower (PIP) 259
1 Conduit of Worlds (ONE) 163
1 Corpsejack Menace (PIP) 742
1 Cultivate (PIP) 196
1 Darkwater Catacombs (PIP) 260
1 Devoted Druid (NCC) 286
1 Drowned Catacomb (PIP) 262
1 Duskshell Crawler (MH2) 156
1 Emperor of Bones (MH3) 90
1 Entish Restoration (LTR) 163
1 Erinis, Gloom Stalker (CLB) 407
1 Evolution Sage (LCC) 240
1 Evolution Witness (MH3) 151
1 Evolving Wilds (PIP) 263
1 Exotic Orchard (PIP) 264
1 Experimental Augury (ONE) 49
1 Feral Ghoul (PIP) 44
1 Find / Finality (PIP) 216
7 Forest (PIP) 326
1 Garruk's Uprising (M21) 186
1 Glowing One (PIP) 76
1 Guardian Project (PIP) 199
1 Hancock, Ghoulish Mayor (PIP) 45
1 Hardened Scales (PIP) 200
1 Hedron Crab (ZEN) 47
1 Helm of the Host (DOM) 217
1 Herald of Secret Streams (LCC) 158
1 Hinterland Harbor (PIP) 267
1 Imperious Mindbreaker (VOC) 71
1 Infesting Radroach (PIP) 46
1 Inspiring Call (PIP) 203
5 Island (PIP) 320
1 Kami of Whispered Hopes (MOM) 383
1 Kodama of the West Tree (PNEO) 199p
1 Manic Scribe (SOI) 73
1 Mariposa Military Base (PIP) 151
1 Matzalantli, the Great Door / The Core (PLCI) 256s *F*
1 Mirelurk Queen (PIP) 33
1 Mortuary Mire (PIP) 272
1 Muldrotha, the Gravetide (CMR) 528
1 Mutational Advantage (PIP) 111
1 Nature's Lore (PLST) DMR-170
1 Nesting Grounds (PIP) 276
1 Nuclear Fallout (PIP) 47
1 Opulent Palace (PIP) 278
1 Overflowing Basin (PIP) 152
1 Path of Ancestry (PIP) 279
1 Putrefy (PIP) 219
1 Rampant Growth (PIP) 204
1 Raul, Trouble Shooter (PIP) 115
1 Reject Imperfection (ONE) 67
1 Retribution of the Ancients (KTK) 85
1 Rise of the Dark Realms (MKC) 138
1 Ruin Crab (HBG) 911
1 Sam's Desperate Rescue (LTR) 105
1 Sol Ring (PIP) 239
1 Struggle for Project Purity (PIP) 39
1 Sunken Hollow (PIP) 296
5 Swamp (PIP) 322
1 Syr Konrad, the Grim (MKC) 141
1 Tainted Isle (PIP) 299
1 Tainted Wood (PIP) 301
1 Talisman of Curiosity (PIP) 245
1 Talisman of Dominance (PIP) 246
1 Talisman of Resilience (PIP) 250
1 Terramorphic Expanse (PIP) 313
1 Tezzeret's Gambit (C19) 98
1 The Master, Transcendent (PIP) 6 *F*
1 Unnatural Restoration (ONE) 191
1 Vexing Radgull (PIP) 41
1 Viridescent Bog (PIP) 154
1 Virtue of Persistence / Locthwain Scorn (WOE) 115
1 Watchful Radstag (PIP) 87
1 Winding Constrictor (PIP) 223
1 Woodland Cemetery (PIP) 316
1 World Shaper (PRIX) 151p
1 Wrenn and Realmbreaker (PMOM) 217p
For this deck, i love the concept of how versatile lands are and would focus heavily on that. I would drop the Hydroid Krasis and replace it with reshape the earth. This is a obvious late game card, but the absolute menacing board state you would bring by fetching lands such as dark depths and copying it. You have other options with the desserts that have become stronger than ever before. As a bonus card to think about, i would remove nissa and add constructed safeguard.
I would like to see some protection for Omo. Maybe in the form of Sylvan Reclaimer. Also some form of evasion (trample) in the form of Garruk's Uprising would really help out the finishers do their job.
I would definitely cut down the lands. 44 lands is way too much lol. Cut it to maybe 30. Then turn it into a complete landfall type deck. Tireless Provisioner, Roil Elemental, Rampaging Baloths, etc. Add the landfall enchantments and Kodama of the East Tree to go infinite with Simic Growth Chamber. And a whole bunch of mana rocks. Then maybe as a final cut addition, Manglehorn. No idea why people, including myself, overlooked that card when running green.
I like that the deck has a direction that's more clear with the upgrades
This precon was fun upgrading. I went with copycat and all terrain in mind, putting some utility lands like nesting grounds and bosenju who endures, and some wincons like maze's end and biovisionary.
Abusing gates seems really fun and generating tons of mana with cloud post to pump into a big X spell.
I would go old-school and sub in the one card I never pulled from Stronghold: burgeoning. I think adding a layer to getting landfall triggers on opponents' turns would be really fun and novel in this deck, and enable some really memorable turns. From the Moxfield list I'd cut expedition map because burgeoning is just a much more powerful and long-term impact at that point in the mana curve. Also, I'm honestly still salty I never pulled a copy back in the day and would love to run a deck where I feel great dropping it.
Liked the changes but gotta say, the first card I though of when I saw this deck was coat of arms. Making your creatures bigger for every creature on the battlefield is an amazing though haha.
The only issue with this is that coat of arms is that because every creature is buffed (including your opponent's creatures).
Now the question is do the creatures get buffed for each creature type or just each other creature that shares a creature type?
@@AlthalusKanemtgIt's just each creature that shares at least one other creature type with it. So this would actually be an awful include in this deck because all of your creatures with everything counters will be buffing all of your enemies creatures.
I am a huge fan of this deck and the everything counter as a whole. I would certainly add Amulet of Vigor for those post based synergies, then add more lands that synergize with each other, tapped or not. I may add some artifact tutors if I go for a higher power deck to find the amulet and go for a post based mana ramp setup.
I want this deck because my cousin recently got me into magic and we haven’t talked in a while before i got into it. It’s so nice to be close with him once again!
I played a game with the decklist online with friends and I found that i definitely needed more ways to uncap handsize, so i would add reliquary tower or thought vessel. In terms of what to cut, i would cut deserts out the deck, not because i dont think they synergize, but because i want to make my yuuma deck better
To bolster the "X" spells and late game mana sinks in this deck I would add wilderness rec. I would also add seedborn muse and field of the dead (specifically the new SL promo seedborn and cabin of the dead from the evil dead sl). Also maybe another way to get our lands back from the yard like ancient greenwarden or the newer perennial behemoth. Not quite sure what to take out for those. One more suggestion is kind of meta dependent but it is a pet card of mine called insight. Cheers!
Of all the precon of this set, this is probably the strangest, but i really like landfall theme deck. I like the second commander more, in fact i would build around it with more "land creature" type of card, like "Tatyova, steward of tides" or "embodiment of insight", and i would remove the wall card in the deck
This deck speaks to me as this is what Simic does best. I wonder if Bonny Pall is useful with this deck to build Beau up with those crazy lands, but I feel like this deck is strong out of the box and a lot of creative things can be done with the deck.
The deck build is unique. It can go for both land and creatures focus tech. Mono lords + Gates, a strong fronts to reckon with!! I would remove some of the weak creature (the wall) for lords that provide indestructible or frest value (glide sliver, illunistin master, lord of atlantis) and some lands for Maze's End! That alone its a great reason to own such deck
I’m new to magic and have been playing for one month and I love simic and love the idea of turning all the stuff i have into everything to kill everything else. It’s also a great base to build from and learn from.
this deck is wild and has me looking at a lot different things up on scryfall. like if we keep the propaganda effects, Collective Restraint is an old card that does the same thing but the tax is your domain. with an everything counter it costs 5 mana to attack you per creature
Simic is the best color pair! 💙💚 Vivien Reid is cool and all, but just not what we need in the lands deck, but Oko (their of crowns)? Now we're cooking some Simic value!
I think omo is cool and all, but Jyoti land creatures just sounds so fun, Definitely looking to add as many land creature support cards, Adding a dark depths, a mazes end, and other fun win cons would be fun as well!
As soon as I saw it, I knew I wanted it. It’s unconventional, it’s weird, different, and seems to be the underdog in this release and I’d rather win being creative than playing with super broken decks. I would build this as a more creatures and Lords tribal focused deck. So I would add cards like Pheres Band Warchief and take out a few that don’t move that mission forward as well or efficiently, like Acidic Slime or the plainswalkers that wouldn’t work with the everything counters. Thanks for the video!
Fetches and shocks for a couple basics. I love Mother Goose and Hydroid Krasis. Krosian Wayfarer as been just one of my cards since the Judgment prerelease.
Oh man this one I'm most excited for. #1 addition: Multiclass Baldric. Have not been able to really utilize this card but with this deck it should be easy. Would also add Helm of the Host, Blossoming Tortoise, Peer Pressure, Maskwood Nexus, Shifting Sliver and lastly Spawning Kraken. The Kraken especially seems really cool; attack with another Kraken and get a free 9/9 token.. hell yes brother. Shifting Sliver for the unblockable creatures and the rest are just kinda nice to haves. Peer Pressure seems really sweet against for example an Eldrazi deck (assuming I have a ton of creatures on the board - which will also be Eldrazi).
My favorite deck of the new 4! I liked the upgrades though I'd consider taking out goose mother but that's just me. In my upgrade path I kept going on the land path with a focus on tokens/ value the everything counters gave. I've seen others using slivers and other anthem style effects you can do too with boosting your creatures. Last big upgrade I'd add is the helm of the host! Even more everything counters and omo deserves having her crown!
This precon has definitely become my unexpected favorite out of the set. The everything aspect is just so cool. I definitely want to 3D print little everything bagel tokens for it
I saw them talking about that on commander at home haha!! Love it
@@SouthernSorcery it's such a good idea!
Would love this deck, it has everything I like, ramp, x abilities/cost, big creatures, and endless possibilities for combos. I'm a huge fan of Hydras and this is perfect with already having some big Hydras and room to add a few more to really make an almost a full Hydra tribal deck which is what I'm actually working towards making. I'd definitely throw in an Unnatural Growth to double the P/T during each combat
...the deck is full of value, but it's really strange from my POV; Omo has such a strange effect to evaluate, people won't focus your commander probably and she will stay alive for a lot, and I would like to use her ability in a better way, focusing on making creatures better; currently the deck is more focused om lands, which isn't bad, but it does need some way to spice things up, maybe with "lords tribal", The smiling Flood and some ways to gain even more value from the counters. I would search something in New Capenna set, as iirc brokers had the "counter" sinergies. I wouldn't use the alt-commander, but he would be awesome in an elemental landfall build, with Risen Reef and Zwndikar's Roil, I would love to play a deck that does this.
I genuinely haven't seen a cloud post in a game of magic in like 12 years so there's a bit of nostalgia mixed in with the disgust at how nutty these interactions are
I have always wanted to build both copy type effects and land tribal decks. This sort of merges the two together. Something that I'll put in is [[Scion of Draco]]. A 2 drop that gives hexproof and trample? Yes, please. I'll probably take out [[chromatic lantern]] since it's sort of redundant with Omo, and it's less needed in a 2 color deck.
I think this Deck can be so versatile Where you can put any good Card from each tribal into the Deck slivers elfes etc. You can be so Creative thats what is Great about the Deck maybe Even Double the triggers from omo But whats missing here is some Protection for Omo since the everything counters dont work without her so whispersilk cloak is a Must have since it gives Protection and makes her able to Attack to trigger her again would remove seer sundial because it is too expensive for draw (multiclass baldric is a Great Addition aswell)
Oh man, so many versions of this I would love to try. I think the direction l like most is using niche tribal lords and boosts with the changeling effect more than the land side. My top card to put in is Feline Sovereign, I love the idea of having protection from dogs and then making my opponents stuff dogs with everything counters. Treasure Cruise is my easy first drop, I'm never going to be excited to see it.
Personally, I love landfall triggers and big mana ramping. I would add an "awaken the woods" to it but cut a basic land
This Simic decks has a load of potential. The lands are beautifully and well included (except Maze's End, comeon, where is it?)
I think other than lands, the other cards are not what I would have included as it's more of a landfall themed.
Omo will give the land and creatures everything counter. I would take out most of the nonlands and replace all those creature type matters. Such as, Slivers has one of the best cards for synergy. Elves, Merfolks are another. These will massively increase the chances of winning. With so much land options, we can play a janky card like Monument to Perfection.
Hour of Promise can tutor out your 2 best lands (e.g. the Dark Depths / Thespian Stage combo, Locus + Tron, or any other you need) - its a lands deck, where we want specific lands. Why would you cut it?
This looks pretty fun, not played a simic lands deck yet, so hoping to see it in the flesh.
Gotra say, dump the oblivion stone and get her her Helm! It probably won't sync well with the deck but it's on theme xD
For me I'm wanting a blink/landfall deck, also running a small gate theme with mazes end as a fun alt win con. One of the cards I will definitely be putting in is panharmonicon. Get the double of omo and then also the other various creatures with etb effects.
With such ramp and card draw I'd add extra land drops. Like exploration. And go with blightsteel and silver shroud costume. It's more of a funny way to play. Other than that it's adding the locus lands for massive ramp
My thoughts for this deck is to make it into an everything tribal with lords and blink. Might as well make use of the everything lands with a cheesy maze's end win with reshape the earth. Tempt with discovery could also help with churning out urza lands or even do the thespian stage + dark depths combo.
I've been trying to think of what I'd add to this, and then it hit me. The answer was right there. Sitting right next to it on the shelf. Lhurgoyf's, you add more Lhurgoyfs. Its 2 Lhurgoyf decks!
I'm broke at the moment cuz I have had problems getting a job so I have seen a lot of mtg setts come out and not bean able to buy them or just not being able to upgrade my currant decks witch is real sad and now they come out with a precon deck that I have speculated on in the past. every creature types tribal and now they are doing it I really want that deck and just gradually upgrade it with cards I stumble over absolutely fantastic precon concept!
I'm so hyped about this deck as it fits my playstile. I played legacy lands back in the days and I would suggest to put Life from the Loam, Eternal Witness, Sylvan Library, Nadu Winged Wisdom with a Shuko/0 equip package, Urza's Saga and other utility lands 😍
I'd splash some "changeling payoff" in the deck so you can fully use Omo's ability, like Galerider Sliver or Lord of the Unreal to give fly/hexproof to your board. I think I'd also try Multiclass Baldric for fun :D
What about Domain? As far as my understanding goes you have the five basic types as long as you have a single counter, so I guess you can run Collective Restraint, maybe Evasive Action (domain cards kinda suck actually).
I was building a Volo deck and this commander totally ruins my hopes :D Your swaps are cool, I'm just not sure I'd keep the Frogantua cause it makes you a prime target if someone has an opportunity to kill one single opponent, but idk, the second effect is nice.
I really like some of the changes. I’ve seem other upgrade videos turn it into a pseudo merfolk deck which is interesting also
Gates shenanigans and some cool landfall is always up my ally. Also with many kindred decks just makes them so consistent wile using cool combos
This precon looks sick! I think a card I'd put in is embiggen, just to heavy militarize a land... To make space for it I think I'd remove Terastodon, ok it removes a lot of stuff but not creatures, and also gifts elephants... I'd use it on myself somehow, but it's too much effort for me 😂
This deck is sick! Love the idea of going for cards that care about certain typal archetypes, as a result I'd want to remove fog bank and put in something like Lord of the Unreal to give all my creatures with everything counters +1/+1 and shroud. Just pop in a bunch of lords and take over the game with big beefy stats and keywords!
I want this deck not only to see how it compares but also to see if I can use it to improve my Warhammer40K Tyranid Deck.
Love the big mana upgrades. I'd add Nissa, Who Shakes the World, probably over Ulveneald Hydra. More mana and land creatures, what's not to love?
I would love to try building this commander to take advantage of changing the typing of opponents creatures with cards like Gor Muldrak and Feline Sovereign and get rid of the landfall package. Im not sure how consistent it would be but it sounds like a good time.
Lands is a fun strategy I've not built yet
I definitely want this deck for a bunch of the new cards and reprints in it (mainly dryad and vesuva) but if I were to keep it to upgrade, I would take out the deserts package, as there’s only 1 card in the deck that really benefits from them, and replace them with fetch lands and other sacrifice lands to power up the landfall cards.
To be honest. I have no idea how to build a Deck with this Commander, but it is definetely a unique one. Thanks for the great video as always.
Awesome vid. Would like to win to get back into commander. Would like to add proliferate cards and counter moving cards, don't know exactly what I would take out for it though. Haven't played in a while and don't have all my old cards.
This was a deck I was interested as soon as I saw the art, that she was wearijg helm of the host. At first I was super dissapointed in the everything counter thene because I was really hoping for some kind of copy themed deck.
After giving it tike though I have brewed up some 'upgrades' basically changing out the lands matter theme in place of random lords like Lord of the Unreal and usual suspects like manaweft sliver to make all my creatures do everything.
Really like all the new non-basic typed lands.
I've always hated how linear simic decks work. It gets boring and I end up breaking it. This is the first one in a very long time to do something totally out there.
I would probably take out Jyoti out and add ways to spread the everything counters around like Agent's Toolkit, Goldberry, River-Daughter, Leech Bonder and maybe proliferate.
Honestly I want the deck to tear it apart it has so many good lands that I want for other decks ... Omnath wants some of the lands, Hazezon wants some more deserts, and Talon Gates seems like it'll be good in EVERY deck
I think the everything counters just look sick. I’d take out the acidic slime for helm of the host though. Plays into the deck well and reduces the overall mana cost!
The everything counters are going to be fun. Locus can finally be useful
This precon to me is the more focused of the pack, BUT nonetheless It still has bit of space for some NEAT upgrades. First of, switch Simic Nissa for Nissa Who Shakes the World, her +1 and passive ability synergize pretty well with the everyting counters. Second, a bit more of Landfall support with a Lotus Cobra (cut Floriferous Vinewall) and World Shaper (cut Hydra Broodmaster) and Third, but not less important, cut Seer's Sundial for Conduit of Worlds, being able to restock on lost lands or a key permanent late game to win, can be crucial.
I would like to use the secondary commander and lean into the creature lands type build..Nissa and the likes..create creature lands with counters and add different types of over all evasion..flying and unblockable. Seems like a fun build to do
Originally I wanted to go for a mazes end route but I really like the alt commander and wanna go more towards a land creatures deck and the first thing I would do is also add a lot of card draw like bident of that’s as you recommended and other things like reconnaissance mission. My idea is get tons of lands, make them creatures and use things like biomass mutation to make bugs lands and win, meanwhile looking like I’m not doing anything 😂
Love the analysis and breakdown, I would love to win because of the value of the deck. In terms of what to add, I’d go with Nissa, Ascended Animist because I feel like she’d be insane with all of these lands and probably remove Skullwinder.
This deck seems like it could really go off consistently with even just a few very minor tweaks. Jeepers
I always wanted to build a tribal tribal deck and from my Perspektive, this is the perfect commander for it!
I would combine this with mass Land Animation because the animated Lands are all creature Typen with an everything counter already!
The best card for this would be "ambush commander" or "life and limb". Another good Inklusion is "Nissa, who shakes the world".
For a bordwipe i would inklude cards like "spectral deluge" or "engulf the shore"
In the end i would add many Lords. My favorite one is "Lord of the unreal" and "scion of ooana", "timber protector" to protect the commander. Other Lords would be tindershoot dryad or Lord of atlantis
An evil Addition would be "spreading algae", since you are able to put everything counters on opponents Lands.
For Cuts i would remove propaganda since this is a creature jeavy deck and mana reflection. The Lords would replace smaller unnessesary creatures.
Hope this gives a little insight in my deck idea :)
I want to run nesting ground so badly in this deck. Literally swap out any of the taplands for it. It just seems fun to move around the everything counter. I don't think it would be "good" but it would definitely be fun.
I would probably add in an omenpath journey, I know it’s not super flashy but being able to go grab 5 nonbasics in this deck seems very powerful. I would probably take out Jyoti since I don’t feel that it ties into the main strategy of the deck.
I would definitely add a rite of replication and probably more shape-shifting and token copies type spells to give some really good payoffs for etb triggers.
My focus would definitely be on making it fun and slightly dependent on my opponents deck for interactions. Rite of Replication kicked in a master of waves is my favorite.
Mazes end seems like an instant include? Swap out for a basic. Seems like an easy win con
I don't know why it gives me the feeling that those new lands are the typical cards that could only be obtained in precon as were Edgar Markvo, Dockside and others. They are sure to be expensive and will maintain a high price for quite some time.
Biovisionary combo was my last Simic deck. I hope this one renews some interest in the color pair for me.
This deck is so interesting! I really like the concept of this precon. Like you did, I would go big on the x spells because this deck can go crazy fast with some lands like cloud post.I think I would remove all the landfalls like avengers, etc. because I think this deck can be more creative than this. Thanks for the vid!
Seems like an alright Precon with some fun pieces to play with unique lands or typings 😮
I dont think Chromatic Lantern is necessary in the deck. Omo makes lands all types which helps with fixing, and it's only a 2 color deck anyway. I wanted to find something fun to interact more with Omo making creatures all types since the deck focuses more on the lands aspect. I'd want to include Coat of Arms, it seems like it would be a lot of fun with Omo's ability.