I support you - Pokémon FireRed Doubles Challenge
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 30 ноя 2023
- Challenge Rules:
- I can only use my starter in battle.
- No items in trainer battles except held items.
- No glitches, exploits, or RNG manipulations.
First playthrough:
- No Double Team, Substitute until level 100
- 0 IVs across the board
- Cheating for information is acceptable as a last resort
Second Playthrough:
- All bets are off. Complete the game as fast as possible
- Max 31 IVs unless pursuing Hidden Power
- I will be playing these runs at 4x game speed
My footage will be edited to give what I consider a better viewing experience. This includes making cuts, fades, and adjusting the speed of the footage to match my commentary.
I use a software called "PKHeX" to edit my starter, setting things like it's Nature, and IVs to be perfect 31s, or marginally reduced to give specific Hidden Power typing to optimize strategy. All of the Pokémon I use are 100% attainable in the base game. The software allows me to create my "perfect" egg Pokémon in a much shorter timeframe.
PKHeX also allows me to set my Pokédex total to max after the Round 1 Elite 4. A requirement of Round 2 is catching 60 species and I am only interested in the potential of the Pokémon that I'm running instead of my ability to catch Pokémon optimally.
Pokémon music, images, & names © 1995-2023 Nintendo/Game Freak.
Support my content through RUclips Memberships: www.youtube.com/@Eggsceptiona...
Support my content through Patreon: / eggsceptional 
Игры
It is a bit of a shame that the 0 ivs was met with negative response. I think it makes a lot of sense with your 2 playthrough style. Maybe i should have been more vocal about that in the other runs.oh well the middle of the road 15 ivs isn't a bad idea either
The way that I'm feeling about it at the moment is that I'll try out the 15 IV format for a while. Then, after a few videos again I'll open it up in another poll. We'll have seen a decent set 0, 15, and 31 first runs at that point. Thank you for your feedback!
The zero iv runs were a little painful for mons with bad defense but I greatly enjoyed them also
Here's a horrible idea, how about three runs, start with average for information, max IV for fastest time and 0 IV for challenge
@@chazwilliams5116 Thanks for letting me know! We'll try the new format for a bit, then I'll hold a vote to determine which format everyone enjoyed watching the most.
@@EggsceptionalI get why you ran Zeros, but it did seem wildly punishing. If you want to keep to the spirit of "a bad version to show that any mon could do this" versus "let's turn the dials to 11," maybe turn the first run of IVs to 10ish instead of 15s for your first run?
This format seems pretty interesting, curious to see what you go with in the end. I think it makes more sense that if one of the pair is knocked out, it’s a reset, it really emphasizes that they need each other, plus, you won’t have to worry about your HM Pokémon coming into battle because you’d just reset anyway.
That's a fair point! I feel like the dependency might be something more fun to explore in theme runs, like NidoKing can't let his Queen fall. But in a run like this, where one Pokémon clearly exists to support the other, it became incredibly difficult to keep Diddy alive. Definitely food for thought! Thanks :)
I ADORE double battles. I would love to see more of these types of videos.
Sure thing! I had a ton of fun making it so I'm happy to do more in the future. Thanks!
I like the idea of if one of the duo survives the fight its not a reset that mon came in clutch for his partner let em keep the Dub. As for HM friends they should either be boxed prior to the gym battle or u use bad moves that wont affect the outcome of the match
Thanks for your input! I agree with boxing the HM cheerleaders. I was trying to work it out during the premiere, but I think that only Lt. Surge, and Erika will needs Cut 'mons to be in the party. Usually that's Meowth, so hopefully something like Growl doesn't impact things too much. Cheers :)
I think the HM cheerleaders, if they come out, should probably just resort to using "garbage" moves that don't influence the battle, since the point is to look at the Pokémon you're highlighting in the video. And also, resetting only after both faint seems like a good idea. You already are doing that, so...nice. :)
Awesome, thanks for your input! I've had a few suggestions to hack "Splash" onto the HM cheerleaders for the minimum effect. Cheers :)
This is very new and interesting. I would LOVE to see more of these! Also the whole dynamic with you and your gf doing voice lines for the mons was very cute!
Thank you!! Both her and I had a lot of fun recording the voice overs :) I'd love to tackle more projects like this in the future!
In terms of pairs for future videos, I was thinking of some silly things like Tauros/Miltank, Hitmonchan/Hitmonlee, Mew/Mewtwo, Politoed/Poliwrath, Politoed/Slowking, Scizor/Steelix, etc. All just for themed teams.
Tons of suggestions, thank you! I like them all. Tauros/Miltank can be called Bullogna. Cheers :)
I think the only reason people didn’t like the 0 IV runs was because they want to see their favorites actually succeed and do cool stuff, but since the second run is mainly cut to the endgame they can’t see it. I don’t mind either way
-If you did a dozen more of these duo runs no one would be mad and it’d be a really cool niche too. Tailow/Treecko would be a very hype one too.
-loved the bit of story in the beginning. Keep it up man
-the HM friends in the way can be boxed with PKHex before major battles
That's fair enough. I feel like the way it'll pan out is I'll try the 15 IV runs for a bit, then hold another vote once we've had a decent set of them. Let everyone vote on 0, 15, 31, or indifferent.
I really enjoyed it :) I'll have to find more ways to incorporate little stories. Recording the clips and everything was a blast! I learned a lot for the next ones.
I guess I forgot that PKHeX and a paused timer is my very own little Pocket PC, eh? Thanks for the tip :)
Its a shame that everyone was vocal against 0DV/IV.. considering rby/gsc Pokémon Challenges aka teo does 0DV/IV runs all the time
@@adventureoflinkmk2 And his runs are great! I'm glad he enjoys that format as much as he does. We'll try this out for a while. It's not like anything is set in stone :)
This was a lot of fun! I loooove doubles, the strategies can get so wild. And this duo was super fun. As a tip for exp in doubles: in Colosseum speedruns, the EXP Share is used to split 75:25 when needed. That also helps keeping most EXP with your surviving mon in case HM friends get sent out. No idea where it is in FR though so I don't know if that helps.
The XP share is something that you get from Prof Oak's aides. I think 50 caught species is the requirement so that may likely be something that I hack if I choose to use it. Thank you for your input! I loved making this one, I'm eggscited to eggsplore the format further :)
the doubles format is pretty fun to see in firered, brings back memories of the orre titles (colosseum and xd) since they were gen 3 as well.
I actually haven't played those two. They might be fun stream content in the future to explore new games to see if I could bring them to the channel as well. Thank you :)
The one thing I think many forget about Medicham, is it does have a higher defense stat than it's attack stat. But there's the kicker, if you get that stat set up, you can use power trick to switch your defense and attack and suddenly Pure Power Medicham goes crazy :3
Unfortunately, Power Trick didn't exist in Gen 3 (I had to look it up). I've definitely earmaked this strat for my future Gen 4 runs. This sounds like my kind of fun. Thanks!
The story of Ditty and Donkey was so heartwarming. Your girlfriend did an amazing job with the voice acting 😊,you should do that more often.
As for the format, I really loved watching the difference between 0 ivs and 31 ivs. I even I like running with 15ivs or 7dv , because it give you a pretty good idea what kind results could you get when running with a random ivs Pokemon, because getting 0 or 31 ivs is really hard by reseting for a good starter.😊
If you do more runs like this I would like to see a combination of Smeargle and Shuckle or Ditto instead.
Ooph! I've had a lot of beefier Pokémon suggested, but those ones would be a whole new ballgame. Smeargle would be SUPER interesting since he can Sketch from his teammate.
Thank you!! We both had a ton of fun adding this into the video :) I'd love to do it more in the future I'm so happy it landed really well!
I enjoyed seeing the comparison between the two as well. I feel like the difference would have been far less pronounced if we didn't suddenly outspeed everything. I'm eggscited for the new format! I'll try it for a while then likely put up a poll to see which format people enjoyed watching the most. Thanks :)
@@Eggsceptional You're welcomed, keep it up. 😊 Having fun is the best part of making contact isn't it?
@@bateltheassistant Smeargle and shuckle/ditto, Batel you are evil :D
@@kangaskdan🤣🤣🤣 I'm not even sure that possible to finish the game with these two. Maybe it's time to test it.🤣🤣🤣
@@bateltheassistant I think so! The more fun I'm having the more it translates to the videos after all :)
I love this format, i can see so much potential with pairs, like serviper and zangoose, or weird ones like magneton and electrode, also i know this would be a very difficult thing to program, but my thought for the hm slaves is a mobile pc or an item that performs the cut action for you, but still make it required to pick up the hm slave
I actually read your comment a little while before responding so I was tossing it over in my head a bit. As it turns out, another comment might have a simple solution. I can pause the timer and simply hack the cheerleaders in and out of my party! Or hack on Splash. This is why I wanted the input first :) Thank you for your suggestions!
Such a unique idea! Really enjoyed this run , The pairs you could do in the future could be super fun too , great video.
Thank you! Plenty more to come :)
Love the concept man! Keep going, your content is great! Cheers from Brazil 🇧🇷
Thank you!! I had a lot of fun with this one :) Cheers from Canada!
For the HM users, an idea would be to have them be Fainted prior to the battle? That way they can't tank any attacks from the opponents Pokemon from them attack them instead of the surviving front-liner. The three ways I can think to have them faint would be:
1.) Cheat in them knowing Selfdestruct/Explosion on one of their moves (assuming they have an available slot) then just fight wild Pokemon with them to knock them out.
2.) I don't know if this is even possible but, just cause them to "faint" via code somehow
3.) Actually battle wild Pokemon till they faint
Option 2, if it's actually possible, would obviously be the fastest with Option 3 being the slowest but not requiring any adjustment to the game. Option 3 would punish teams that need to heal more at Pokecenters as every time you heal, you'd have to make them faint again but that could cause more strategy to try and improve their times. Option 1 is the perfect middle of fast but require adjusting the game. You'd still have to purposely faint your HM users but it won't take anywhere quite as long.
As for a potential pair, my vote would go to Alakazam and Machamp. The Brawns and the Brain :P
I like that idea! I've had a lot of different suggestions, but simply having them knocked out seems to be the easiest. I can still use their HM moves after all while they're fainted. I can also battle 1 optional trainer in each gym to knock them out if they happen to be conscious for the next leader. Great suggestion, thank you!
I've added the brawn and brains to the list :)
This format is really interesting! I'd definitely be interested in seeing more double challenges
Awesome! Thanks for letting me know :)
The commentary from the Pokemon is adorable, makes me wish to see you run a Friendlocke.
I've just recently learned what Friendlockes are they sound fun! I've been wanting to revisit this format for a while now, there's just so much other content to make! Thanks :)
@@Eggsceptional
I look forward to that Friendlocke eventually! Good luck with you full plate of content. 😵🤞
@@OneColdRepublican Thank you!! All I can ever ask is your patience :) It's all written down! Some are crossed off...
just woke up and have the perfect video to eat breakfast with keep up the good work always love your videos ^^
That's great. Nothing like some Eggs to start your day :) Thanks!
Honestly hyped for the double battles. I always enjoyed this mod and find it interesting to see how the strategies change!
It was a very different feeling run to play that's for sure. I'm glad you're pumped up for these, I am too :D
This was SUPER creative! Loved it!
Thank you :) Even it wasn't truly possible, it was a TON of fun to put together.
Love the vids, Mr Eggman! I dont mind the 0 IVs, but I'm happy to see how the 15 IVs work out! Just do what you think makes the most sense for you, we trust your judgement!
That makes one of us :P Thank you! I'll try this format for a few, then likely hold another poll asking everyone what they enjoyed watching the most. Cheers :)
I really liked this run! I've been playing Colosseum runs, a game entirely made with double battles in mind, and it's been a ton of fun! I really wanna use Slaking Skill Swap strats someday and I think its best partner is a Flying-type, either Xatu, Noctowl or Butterfree. They all learn Skill Swap and are immune to his Earthquakes, which in Gen 3 doubles is a devastating move. Compound Eyes Slaking might be fun while using 100% accurate Fire Blast.
Edit: also, I went through the same problems you did with deciding whether one of the mons fainting would be a fail or not. I decided that whenever this happens I'm going to count it as an event called "singularity". So it doesn’t fail the run, but it’s another metric to consider.
I was very much going for a strategy that was "Hey, what if I...?" There are likely much better partners for Slaking than Medicham :)
It was a lot of fun to do! I gained some good ideas for future runs too. Compound Eyes Snorlax would be nice early too, getting STAB Mega Kick. Things to considera
@@Eggsceptional I didn't even consider Compound Eyes + Mega Kick because I'm too formatted for Colosseum where there's no tutor for that move. That would be very fun.
@@TriteHexagon Don't worry, I'm fully programmed for FireRed :P I love the suggestion. Thanks!
I've done the doubles format in FireRed before and it is so much fun so I can't wait to see more double vids and all the combos you come up with and others suggest (one idea that comes to my mind are weather combos) also I knew you were gonna use the skill swap combo when I saw the thumbnail but was shocked that Medicham couldn't learn Skill Swap in Gen 3 I swear I remember seeing a Medicham use it at some point before Gen 9 but I guess I remembered wrong (or maybe I saw it in Radical Red) I do remember the final boss of Colosseum doing the skill swap combo with Slaking but they used a Slowking instead of Medicham (oh also Gog that battle was tough for 13 year old me since I was still new to double battles)
That battle at the end of Colloseum sounds difficult for me in my 30s let alone me back then! I'm really pumped to dive into more ideas with the format as well. I like the weather suggestions, weather combos were among my first ideas for duos to run the game with. I was surprised by the Skill Swap too! Oh well, I had ways of making it work :) Thanks!
@@Eggsceptional yeah that final battle is a little rough especially since you have to catch his Shadow Pokémon but the final battle in XD is way worse and of course my stubborn younger self had to try and catch all 6 of his Pokémon in one go Hahahahahahaha
@@lumineinfinitussilverkagat8094 Well of course you did :P The stubbornness of my child self perpetuated to today too. Hence the occasional 100+ reset runs as I refuse to adapt.
I had a lot to say, but nothing that the other comments didn’t already touch on! Great video :)
Thanks for commenting anyway! The feedback on this video has been fantastic :)
Double battles are the absolute best. Definitely more please
That's definitely in my power :) Thanks!
Loved this!!
I'm afraid as payment for the double battles hack, you and diddy will need to do some voice work on my next video, the intro was too cute :D
And making me fix the scrooge mcduck bug, only to still use the original rom, that's a power play right there :P
Oooph, I'm afraid that your request may be ill timed. After their break out into the spotlight Donkey and Diddy have been highly requested. My rates have gone up 500%.
So.. divide by 0... carry the infinity... Services previously rendered.... I'll have to charge you 2 iterations of GameHook overlay, and 1 package of gummy bears.
Thank you :P Of course I used the wrong rom! I can't have people thinking that I suddenly have a clue can I? I read about it in RUclips, a History.
No egg fact today my apologies, I did have an order for a sunny side up egg set with only egg whites though. Thanks for uploading 👑
Well, time to bust out the food colouring? I'm trying to wrap my head around that one. Hope it panned out :) Thanks!
I think it would be really cool to see Groudon and Sunkern - a legendary Pokémon and his… seedkick?? It’s too perfect! Groudon activates Sunkern’s Chlorophyll too, and the lack of sun stones in Kanto makes sure it stays a Sunkern
Seedkick hahah... Awesome suggestion! Top tier power, with... umm. Sunkern :P I've added it to the list. Thanks!
Id love to see more of these pairs. Especially unlikely pairs. So not just milktank/taurus but apharos/xatu, gives more narative options
Eggscellent :) Miltank/Tauros is already getting multiple requests. That run just sounds like Bullogna. I like Ampha/Xatu too. Thanks for the suggestions!
What a great tale of friendship :’)
It really seemed like you were having a blast in this one! Some fun ideas for future doubles runs could be Seviper and Zangoose or maybe Mew and Mewtwo could be fun if you want to do a run with legendaries.
for what to do with HM slaves, I would say put them in the box before major battles if you can. (the only one where that might not be possible are the gyms you need cut to complete)
As for using 0 IVs for the first run, I could tell how frustrated you were getting with it and I was getting secondhand frustrated on your behalf! You should do what’s fun for you. I think the 15 average IVs is a good middle ground.
Thank you!
This one was a ton of fun to put together. Thanks for the suggestions! It's so cool to see requests getting multiple votes already.
Yes, that seems to be the most popular option so far. I could do it legit, or even hack the cheerleaders on/off selectively for major battles. It's just a little more manual.
That's fair! I feel the way to do is try the 15s for a while then post another poll for people to vote on their favourite format. 0s, 15s, 31s, indifferent.
1) If you faint the support mons you can avoid the problem, though boxing might be faster.
2) Unless you did something about it, XP will be a problem on these runs. If it wouldn't be an insane amount of added work, I would almost say double the mons for each trainer, but I don't think base Gen 3 would allow for a double battle with 10 mons on one side.
3) I would recommend Serebii for move sets. It is very obvious what Gen you have selected.
4) I wanna see Umbreon and Espeon. Wes (Colleseum) is my favorite Pokemon protagonist and those are his 'starters'. Probably won't be a great run, but it shouldn't be miserable either.
1) I've had a lot of suggestions, and fainting them so far has been my favourite without diving into a ton of coding.
2) It's true! I feel like that's going to be part of the fun/challenge of this format. I don't think that's possible in Gen 3, no.
3) Fair enough! I just need to be better at fact checking things. If it seems to good to be true, it probably is.
4) Done and done. I've added them to the list! Thanks for your input :)
I really enjoyed this new format, it's a nice addition to your normal content.
I have a couple of ideas
1st idea double starting with babies(your choice) and having them evolve as the game progresses
2nd idea: shiney beldum line w/Ninjask
That's great to hear, thank you!
I love babies the suggestion, I definitely see story opportunities there.
Can I ask where shiny Beldum (specifically), and Ninjask came from? I'm not up to date on my anime :P
@@Eggsceptional
Shiny beldum line I got from Steven, a friend gave me a cheat for a shiny beldum and the colors were awesome.
Ninjask is one of those fast bug pokemon with a cool gimmick that I think could supplement The Beldum line.
But I could be wrong.
@@valor1omega It's an interesting combination! Not one that I would have come up with myself probably. I've got it written down as one to investigate :) I'm sure there's some Baton Pass magic that I could work in with Ninjask... I think?
If anyone can do it I think you can.
Even if you don't that's cool, your yokes and puns still crack me up.
Good run,
I didnt mind that you gave medicham skill swap,
but earthquake was mean.
Also you wouldnt have to think about surf if you just benched your hm-slaves before major battles, similar to the league
oh, plusle + minun could be cute for this, or illumise + volbeat, or a rival-frindship of zangoose + seviper? zangoose + seviper could be an extra challenge if you aim to always have one of them faint before a major battle ende, that would put a little emphasis on their feud (although it could make the run harder)
That's great! It was definitely one of those "hindsight's 20/20" moments. Earthquake shook down poor Diddy.. don't worry. I made sure the voice actor got a nice shoulder rub after all that :P
I like the suggestion! Boxing before the league is a must, but I've also liked the suggestion of simply keeping the cheerleaders fainted in the party. Then I can use them without interference in battle.
Great suggestions, all added to the list. I like the additional conditions for something that's more of a rivalry. It definitely encourages more cooperation. Thanks :)
Woahh sick video :) Doubles is such a cool format. A shame traditional games dont have it much
Thank you! I really enjoyed exploring this format. I can't wait to try again :) Cheers!
Oh my, just a couple of days ago I was thinking to myself, it would be super interesting to see former vs. runs come back as teams and see how their time compares to the solo runs! For a proper and fair comparison though, I feel you'd need to go vanilla, so no double battles (I did enjoy the format here though!)
In regards to the support mons, I think giving them splash would be an option. They can still get targeted and "eat" a hit for the main runner, but I don't see a way to avoid that other than keeping them in the box, which would then cost extra time.
Also I agree, a single death on a duo shouldn't count as a reset. Maybe we could do an additional K.O.-counter? So Diddy goes down, it's 1 KO and 0 resets. Diddy and Donkey go down, it's 2 KOs and 1 reset. Something like that.
Finally, just to let you know in case you havent noticed, the ability and nature slots were switched on the layout. Loved the format otherwise, big props to you for putting in so much time and effort and for taking our feedback into consideration. It absolutely shows! Lots of love from Germany
That would be a really fun concept to explore! I do intend to run every Pokémon line both starting unevolved and in the VS format eventually. Plus re--dos, like Tauros 1 year after I first produced it! Thanks for your suggestion about the cheerleaders. I've had a lot of great ones :)
A dual counter you say? KOs VS actual resets. I like it! It gives me more to do with that blank strip at the bottom of the screen with the 2 Pokémon cards on the side.
Darn it! They were swapped a few weeks ago in the original code, I guess I missed them for this one. I'll get it fixed up, thanks for pointing it out. Cheers :)
The ability and nature are swapped lol. Loved the conversations between diddy and donkey btw
Awesome, thank you :) And thanks for pointing it out. Fixed it in one overlay, missed in the other. Cheers!
I loved the power differences with the 0 ivs and 31s. What you could maybe do is hack your hm mons to have only 1 hp and make them hold a black sludge so they die after the first turn they are in. And maybe hack in a non useful move on them like agility
Black sludge isn't in Gen 3
@@Straven93Ah my bad. I haven't played Gen 3 in a long time.
Having not played much at all past Gen 4, I had to think about Black Sludge for a second :P I do like the suggestion of hacking a single low level mon in though. I've had suggestions about boxing the cheerleaders before gym battles, or for Surge/Erika needing Cut I could just hack them in/out after the battles. This is why I wanted to ask all of you :) Thank you for the suggestion!
I would love to see this series continue. I’m only half way through the video right now, but if one of the duo faints but you still win it counts. As for the weaklings I would suggest that it’s fine for them to come in, but maybe for the gym leaders box them so you have better opportunities to understand how the elite four is going to go. And lastly is the rom hack you used online somewhere? I kinda wanna try doing doubles run now
That's great to hear! I agree about the win condition. I've had some great suggestions including boxing the cheerleaders, hacking splash onto them, just hacking a level 1 mon with all of the moves. Thank you for your input :)
This version specifically is not available anywhere. I wanted something that I could still tie into with GameHook, but I'm sure with some searching you would be able to find a comparable version.
Would love to see these refined a little bit. I think the potential is cool every once in a while although I would not replace your normal work.
Not at all! The solo runs aren't going anywhere. Just a splash of flavour every now and then :) Thanks for your input!
The duo pokemon is a nice change but i think the solo format will showcase the individual strength of these pokemon more,especially the meditite line, still nice to see the possible combi plays we can do with duo pkmn
I agree but sometimes added new additions to his already good content is a good thing.
It also sets him apart as well from other poketubers making his channel feel extremely unique from the other good channels.
Thank you for your input. The solo challenges aren't going anywhere, don't worry about that! Like valor1omega pointed out it's nice to have a splash of something that's a slightly different flavour now and then. Cheers :)
Also the VS seeker in vermillion pokecenter may be good for specific EVs if needing to train
Very true! Attack and Speed are usually quite findable, but I think for hard SpA focus the best place is the Electrician outside of Vermillion with the VS Seeker. He has 3 Magnetons :D
Just a suggestion for the overlay, perhaps when displaying the moves, show only that in the overworld and leave stats/current moves for the battles since the latter is more relevant to the fights. Well, that or make it a toggle. My only concern is that there may be runs where it's one doing all the "heavy lifting" while the partner is technically not pulling their weight. If you are looking for ideas for pairs, I think you may find a few ones with pokemon designed to be pairs like the Nido lines, Hitmonchan/Hitmonlee, and Voltbeat/Illusmise for example. There are also a series of pokemon cards that work as a tagteam that may give a few ideas.
Thank you for the suggestion! I have some reworking of my overlay to do before I set up that kind of automation. It's the kind that I only want to do once :P Plans are for 2024! I plan to have a separate combat screen, much like the way Scott's Thoughts (for example) has it. Thank you for the combinations! I've added them all to the list. Cheers :)
Fan of the format. Would really like to see a king/queen run
Thank you! I've got them on the list, now with one more vote :)
I'd love to see this kind of run in pokemon colloseum.
Hmmm.. I've actually never played Colloseum. I think I might add this near the top of the list for upcoming stream content to start learning the game a little. Thanks :)
i liked the video and would love to see more like it
I don't think u should be allowed to attack with other mons like the Lapras, maybe give them splash ?
No, I agree! Using Surf with Lapras there was a big no-no. Thank you for the suggestion! I'm hoping to bring more content like this out soon :)
eggcellent sir, truly eggcellent. a little uneggspected though, I thought you'd be doing another starter or the legendary trio and the doubles run would be a next year job, but still I am most impressed you and Dan got it up and running so soon. it looked good and exactly as thought it would, just every battle with more than one Pokemon made into a doubles format. there is a bit to unpack with this one though
1st, the moveset on Medichamp, really should of looked into it more closely, find as you did, just checking the move itself and who learns it to be unreliable on Pokemon Database and checking the Pokemons specific set for the game its going to be played on to be much more reliable a source. fair enough you cheated it onto it, but I am now curious as to what you will do on any follow up. I figured you'd go with Slaking and I am glad you took my advice for something with skill swap and swapping truant for pure power was a stroke of genius (albeit an illegal one lol). will you go for something new with skill swap, a bulkier psychic type perhaps or will you go with the other option of having something with follow me so Slaking can be protected while it is, well........slaking, might also help if you plan to set up as well.
2nd. the leveling issue, I think we all forget about that. the doubles format might be one where taking all the optional battles available might be your best option in order to have the levels needed, failing that, you could cheat a little and make the experience yields doubled for doubles. this may also solve the damage issues of having all the moves that hit more than target having its damage halved like surf, earthquake and rock slide. having them lose power makes them less worth it to be, in doubles dig does more damage as an individual than earthquake does to 2 at once
sorry I missed the premiere, its been a long day, I do miss being in the chat while the run plays out for us. it was nice your girlfriend joined in and voiced along side you, again uneggspected, but I liked it, she seems nice, has a nice voice. I look forward to what you have planned for the next doubles battle, should be interesting what you give us based on what you learned here
I absolutely know that feeling! I may have started somewhere else, but Gen 3 definitely feels like my home gen. It's nice to explore SS as well, but there's a certain level of comfort I find in 3.
For sure! And steel is just such a great typing in Gen 3. It'll be interesting running a trio where all three of them are weak to Bruno as well. Steelix VS Regi who wins? And can the Regi then deal with a second, and 3 Fighting types?
That's fair enough, plus another redeeming feature of Onix is how good STAB Rock CAN be in the game. That's assuming I can even take advantage of it. Pineco will be one of those runs that I do when I'm ahead by a little bit and can take a short break after I think :P
I really wish I could have gotten into Scott's run. I totally would have found a way to get Substitute on Smeargle :P Not for the competitive time, but I mean... Substitute is kind of my thing.
That's the perfect attitude! Not liking everything that you do in a day I think is just a reality of jobs. The people you work with, and even serve are always the best parts. Sometimes also the worst!
That's fair! There are definitely some egg moves that feel like they make or break runs in the VS runs anyway. I suppose if I'm going for a bit more of a lax run, more focused on strategy than on speed.. Things to consider for sure! Bubble+Ice Beams would be a good combo, especially on a Bug.
That's true enough. I feel like a 0 reset run is a nice little swag thing, but there are runs where resets are almost guaranteed. Look at the crab battle lately. There wasn't a thing I could do early game if Bulbasaur decided to Sleep me and I stayed asleep. Nada. I like weighing the risk of a battle vs the time it takes to make it consistent. Though I know I don't always get that right..
For sure there a bit to unpack, but thank you! It was a really fun first crack at the format. I definitely will be relying more on bulbapedia for my information. There are an ungodly amount of ads, but the information seems to be much more thorough. Which clearly I need :P That's true. I would rather have a bit of fun exploring something that, although outside of the rules, was a ton of fun to showcase. Silly broken Donkey was sure a fun run at the end.
Also very fair points about the format. I don't think I'm into altering how the moves/xp operates in the game as I feel like that's just part of the challenge in the doubles format. Routing XP/EVs is going to be a different ballgame all together. They'll make for slower overall runs for sure, but I barely realized I'd been playing as long as I had when I hit the 3h mark in this one.
It's all good! Tis the season after all. She loved being involved, as did I. Everyone else seems to be loving it as well so far. It'll be fun to play with more creative ideas like this one in the future. But I have some beasts to run...
@@Eggsceptional 1st sorry for the late reply, I'm not getting notifications for anything for some reason.
Gen 3 is very much my home as well, it just feels right as a place to run especially for some variety, Gen 4 will different, I run it well, but it feels harder in places that shouldn't be hard.
Bruno may be a legit threat to the regis in the R1 and R2 and that dreaded mankey trainer on nugget bridge of course. all 3 being weak to fighting is bad, 2 being weak to steel isn't as bad as it sounds as Steelix is the only one you will face, but regice being weak to both as well as rock and fire and having worse defense may cause problems for you, the low speed of all of them might cause a lot of resets though, base 50 is never good.
the dual STAB of onix is brilliant, rock slide and earthquake is a solid combo with STAB but it will need the training behind for attack to make good use of them and of course the speed training for when it evolves to steelix. I have used one just like this and it works rather well on my sandstorm team. and yeah you might need a rest after pineco and fortress, not the easiest run regardless as to what game its on. fortress will struggle against Blaine and Charizard.
I think if you can find a Mr. Mime you can sketch it from there as Mime gets it via level up. in FR I think Sabrina's Mr. Mime has it and so does one of the trainers in her gym. I know you are biased for that move.
I hear that man, it can be very rough sometimes, I like the people I work with, in the past loved a few too, good times bad times all that bit.
with bugs, if its a boosting move, we both know its worth it, its a strong move or at least better STAB also worth it. with Masquerain you can kind have it all, I've had a pure beam move Masquerain that worked nicely, you'll get the same with Volbeat as it can have thunderbolt and tail glow, a unique combo in all of Pokemon. you have a lot of room for some fun and a little jank with the Gen 3 bugs, you'll love them like I do.
I'd say you're doing ok in finding some balance for consistency in your runs, at least in smoother runs as your frustration with some runs does seem to hinder that, shuckle for example and yes I know I am mentioning it again, but Parasect as well. and hell yes we like a bit of swag in Pokemon, its rare though.
yeah maybe stick with Bulbapedia for info like that or at least narrow down search on Database, I tend to look at specific Pokemons sets for individual games to really get it focused. I think the way you ran it was quite fine and fair considering it is a format you are trying to learn at the same time, as your SS jank with the team run. just got a lot to figure out with it 1st before getting the rules locked in.
I;d say on observation you take on half, maybe 2/3 of trainers in a standard run with one Pokemon for a permanent duo, you might need to take on everything for the sake of EV's and experience, either than or really farm for rare candies with the meowths or both as one helps the other I guess, but again its one of those things where you'll figure it out as you go along.
good news, Venomoth is done, I got through the game much quicker with it than I did with Butterfree or beedrill, it is just so much stronger and access to psychic via level up is much quicker than psybeam, the lack of a decent HP did slow it a little but HP dragon did help with Lance a little in the R1. I got the R1 league at a lower level and finished at a lower level too and same again for the R2. I didn't have access to dream eater or reliable sleep for the run though, but a stronger attack for silver wind and solarbeam and sunny day was more than enough.
I am now into my Parasect run. I have had to start with a Charmander as I can't catch a Paras before Brock and Charmander has a harder time against Brock much like Paras so seemed fair to me. good news and bad news on it already, I got a reset already to misty, but just one and good news its got a decently strong HP rock and good stats for its attack and special attack, its going to be interesting to see how this one plays out, I assume pain.
@@jptheflipper3825 I was honestly getting nervous thinking that my reply hadn't gone through! Sorry for my delay.. the beasts almost got me. Not from a run perspective but MAN I had a lot to talk about. It's finally rendering now while I catch up on everything else.
Agreed! Gen 3 home, with beautiful little adventures into Gen 4 now at then. Ahhh see? I almost forgot about that darn Mankey. You should have let it sit a while longer so I could have been caught with my pants down by him. Again.
Ahhh the good ol' 4x Fire weakness. How many Bugs suffer from that I wonder? The dual STAB Onix sounds nice, but when it's Steelix does STAB Iron Tail actually become useful? 75% accuracy though.. yuck.
Biased?!?!? ME? Yeah. Probably :D
I'd say that not just on Bugs but any Pokémon more or less, if you have access to a boosting move, I'll likely be using it. I have an easier time dreaming up set up strats than like.. clever sequences of turns that require a specific outcome or reset.
The frustration does come out, and after running the beasts I feel like the routing was reasonably smoother. Smoother than the 0 IV runs anyway, but these are legendaries after all. I'll be interested in getting a broader cross section of runs in with the 15s.
Absolutely! I'm so happy too that everyone in the audience (for the most part) seems very willing and happy even to learn alongside me. Crazy to think though, that we're having these learning experiences in a game that many of us have played for almost 2 decades. And yes, at the very least I should be cross checking things with Bulbapedia if it feels too good to be true.
For sure! I don't feel like I was really getting in the groove of things with the runs on the channel for multiple videos, and that's in my home game of FireRed. There will definitely be some fun experiences in the doubles format, but there's lots to hammer out.
That's really cool! I'm glad to hear that you weren't needing to fall back on Sleep tactics for the victory. A small sneak peak at the beasts is that the Venonat line took me apart at one point. It was super rough :P
HP Rock is really nice at least on the Paras(ect). It's not going to help you too much obviously, until later, but at least it gives you some extra coverage. Stupid.. Paras... I'm glad you're enjoying it!
@@Eggsceptional don't worry about it, I think my RUclips is not handling all the notifications very well and that is why and I figured you were busy with the beasts, they look good but as you said in the livestream, they kinda run a certain way and have limits.
I will miss fire red and leaf green while I'm in sapphire and ruby, but I still got a few runs to do before that. that Mankey and poison seem to be the biggest threats you face in fire red and the R2 of course. low kick will get you a few times I think, the regis are heavy and slow after all, regirock might tank a hit though 200 base defense isn't too bad.
that 4x weakness hasn't come to bite me just yet thank the lord helix in the sky for that. I ran some numbers on onix and steelix with rock slide, at the same level and same EV's both do about the same damage as Steelix has nearly double the attack stat as Onix despite not having STAB. iron tail will have a use but it comes right at the end, once for Aerodactyl and once again for Tyranitar, the potential to get a KO on them is important.
very true, but I'd argue the bugs need it more, saying that Beedrill handled the R1 league without SD without any problems. I find going without boosting moves to make for interesting runs and an added challenge if the Pokemon I run is too good. I don't rout much, I sort of wing, I think you've said before you do the same for 1st runs, but how much for 2nd's?
yeah those 0 IV runs were rough, why do that to yourself? random IV's might of been a good way to go, keeps the 1st run as vanilla as possible after all. I do assume the beasts will be painful especially the 1st runs, I see Brock and Misty being big problems for all of them except Suicune and it having an early lead. you got to let the frustration out now and then, I noted a few coins added to your swear jar during the live stream for example, I am sure me mentioning Parasect caused at least one of them lol.
there is always something new to learn with these games, the amount I have learnt about Yellow from Scott is unbelievable. and I think we have all learned how to play Crystal from watching Scott and Squidgy. and I have picked up a trick or 2 from you for FR. we all have a lot to learn, if we all mastered it, there would be no challenges left to run
the doubles format is a new one and its not one we see often enough to know for sure what works best for it, but again it adds to the game and introduces something new for you to learn and for all of us as well. for doubles I'd go for thematic pairs, Nidos, the pika clones, maybe a few of ones you've used for doubles like the snakes or crabs. how about Muk and Swalot.
I knew Venomoth would do well, but not having the same options as Butterfree really held it back a little, compound eyes and dream eater would of been enough for it to be nearly perfect. before HP came along for my runs, my moveset of choice for Butterfree was always sleep powder, dream eater, solarbeam and silver wind, a good combo now and always and I would of had it for Venomoth if I could. I think below level 80 would of been possible for it if it was perfect and had a better HP though, you'll have to find that one out.
good news, Parasect is running well, I have gotten past Koga and Sabrina and so far only have 2 resets, once on Misty and once on Koga. Misty I could of avoided by evolving Paras sooner and Koga was mostly because Muk stacked too many acid armors and sludge does a lot when its coming off base 100 attack and is super effective after all, Blaine is the next challenge and I have one strat in mind, levels, lots of them, I have battled everyone in the game so far and will continue to do so, except for the Charizard trainer in victory road of course. I believe level 100 is going to be needed for R2, but I think R1 will be smooth at 80, I'll let you know how it goes
@@jptheflipper3825 Combining threads!
There are some romhacks that input the box in the menu so you can box the hm pokes for the important battles without going all the way back to the pokecenter
Thanks for the suggestion! I've been getting so many good ones :)
Since the game is modified anyway, I'd either add in an item that kills your mons, that you can use after every heal, or I'd give yourself items that work like the HMs in the overworld, so you wouldn't have to send out HM mons. If they do end up in battle, I'd say that you'd have to throw pokeballs with them.
Thank you for your input! I think my fave before doing a bunch of coding magic (future plans) will be simply keeping the cheerleaders fainted. That seems to be the simplest solution thus far. The Pokéball suggestion is great too. Cheers :)
If you're going to keep them fainted I suggest using the PC to heal, since you always have at least one alive when playing double battle format, you won't need to heal any of the HM mons and thus save time by not having to re-faint them after every heal
@@AlloAlloRocks That's a great suggestion! I hadn't considered using the PC to selectively heal my main 'mons. Thanks!!
My thoughts on the 0 Ivs is the information isn't necessarily useful. Like if you noted you needed to be x level to beat the rival. That information isn't necessarily going to carry over if all your stats are +12 points higher then the first run. It's nice for the added challenge of knowing to what extent you can get away with something
It's true! I did find things that were advantageous to creating a second playthrough strategy in the 0 IV runs. If there was a problem, oh it was a problem. But they were frustrating, and I didn't like resorting to blasting every Pokémon with Rare Candies every first run. I likely explore the 15s for a bit then hold a poll for everyone to vote on which format was their favourite to watch. Thanks for your input :)
Regarding the layout for learnset, maybe having the next 1 or 2 level up moves displayed below the respective mon? TMs/HMs are important, but less so imo as you'll tell us exactly what TMs you'll be teaching them anyway.
Edit: Also, I've messed around with Pokemon Crystal ROM changes and modified my ROM to ignore the "move learned" requirement for all HMs so you can ignore catching and teaching HM Cheerleaders. I can mess around with Firered to see if I can it working there if you're interested. The way it works in crystal is it checks if you have the necessary badge, and then checks if you have the HM in your bag. If both checks are True, the move can be used. Flash/Fly are a bit different, but it just adds the move to ALL pokemon in your party's "Party Menu" as long as location conditions are met and the Badge/HM in bag conditions are True. (i.e. Fly will only show-up outside, Flash will only show up in dark caves)
Eliminating the TM/HMs would free up a significant amount of space. I do need to redesign the cards where the live stats sit anyway (for the solo run overlay as well), but I'm waiting on that until 2024. I need to get some content out and stop changing things for 5 seconds :P
If you could look into it I would appreciate that, for sure! I can also ask my code wizard about it.
@@Eggsceptional Great news!
I was able to modify the code to ignore if any Pokemon KNOWS the HM by cutting out the "checkpartymove" requirement.
Edit: Field Moves now only work if you have the HM/TM. I'll work on Fly/Flash tomorrow.
I found a tutorial on adding Fly to the Pokemon Menu if they can learn Fly without having to teach it Fly, so once I get the other overworld HMs (and Rock Smash) working, I can start work on how to get Fly/Flash to work like they do in my Crystal ROM.
@@scipocelah6677 That's awesome thank you! I hope you don't mind I'm copy and pasting this into my chat with my eggspert :P Again, thank you for checking into this!
@@Eggsceptional Not at all! I was thinking about a better way to share this information than RUclips comments. Once I got the ROM working fully I was going to compile the information about where the changes were made and pass it over in some way.
@scipocelah6677 Awesome! I was going through the pret disassembly yesterday with my eggspert and we were checking out the "checkpartymove" that you'd mentioned. We might have another sneaky work around by freezing the cheerleader's HP to 0 in GameHook, but not needing them in the first place seems simpler. Also, I've been slowly working at setting up a Discord server for the channel behind the scenes. That'll likely be the easiest way. As with everything on the channel though: WIP :)
I think 15 IVs in the first run is a fair compromise, tbh it was a little rough to watch the 0 IV runs since a lot of the battles were so tough to figure out/ depended on some kind of luck and I was worried about you feeling burnt out having to not only playthrough all that but also having go over it in editing
It's true, longer runs means a longer editing process. It was mostly the fact that I resorted to cheating 100% of the time. Granted, I'm done with grinding for an eternity in the late game regardless, but I'm hopeful that the pivot to 15s will alleviate that a little. We'll see! In the end I'll likely do this format for a while then hold a poll for everyone to vote on what was most enjoyable to watch.
I think if to avoid having Pidgeys in battle you should keep your hm pokemon fainted.
Thanks for your input! I think I'm capable of freezing their HP at 0 using GameHook as well, so that should work swell :D
You're morally obligated to do gen 3 a Plusle & Minun, they were literally made for this video format
That's top of the list for sure :) I was just... you know.. scared 😅
*Gen 5 double format with the elemental monkeys
* gen 5 flygon krookadile fue to the pokedex
Ooph, you'll probably have to wait on Gen 5 for a little while. Backporting into FR is going to be a WHOLE new ballgame to learn in the future. Great suggestions, thanks :)
you could always PKHex the HM mules' movesets into 4 dud moves like Splash etc before teaching them HMs!
Great suggestion, thank you!
I'm glad you dumped the 0 IVs idea, even though it did make for an interesting comparison in the moment when you changed them when you were stonewalled. And no offense to you or him but... I fast-forward when Vasko Games does his "pokemon talks to its trainer" skits and I fast-forwarded here too ☠️
Now that you're probably super insulted and want nothing to do with me, as a double battles idea I've always wanted someone to do a Hooty & the Blowfish run - that is, a Hoothoot and Qwilfish run 😛 I don't think they'd have any synergy at all and it would be really hard even if you evolved Hoothoot and Qwilfish didn't get an evolution until Legends Arceus, but I'm amused by the pun about a band that I think way too much about since they had like two songs I liked back in the 1990s lol. Any other pun runs anyone can think of would be good too, musical or otherwise. I had another one but I can't remember it but Solid Snivy, Tepig Boss and Revolver Oshawatt were a big meme back when Black & White were new 😆
Thanks for your input! I'll be interested to see how the 15 format goes for a little while. And no worries - it was fun for me, but not for everyone! Enjoy it how you see fit :)
Hooty and the Blowfish that's great :D I've added it to the list. How have I never entered the world of Solid Gen 5 names? Those have me all geared up! And no worries about not enjoying something. I'm happy to take criticism! As long as it's constructive and not "This sucks because you suck. Dislike" :D
I could swear Medicham could learn Skill Swap since gen 3
Oh well, I guess it couldn't learn it back then exactly because swapping Truant for Pure Power would make Slacking broken
Right? This threw me off for sure, but it's what I get for slacking on my fact checking. Playing with the Pure Power Slaking was 100% like putting in my cheat codes in those old school RPGs. Oh.. I suppose it was eggsactly like that. Thanks ;)
We waiting for the pog ppl
But there are already so many eggscellent people here :)
I'd like to see the standard starter doubles duo to take the stage: Charizard and Swampert
What a wild combo to the considered the standard! I love it :) It's on the list. Thanks!
Maybe wild battles should also be double formatted? Either 2 of the same pokemon, or 2 of any encounter in the area
The wild battles, as well as any trainer battle that only had 1 Pokémon had to remain as singles. Otherwise the game just kind of broke. Thanks for the suggestion :)
Oh, if you're using a special rom for this format, you might as well bypass the hm cheerleader problem by just adding in key items that replicate HMs.
Since this is a new format it won't be unfair to other comparisons to remove the need of HM pokemon. Better to do it sooner than later.
Also, on the subject, you could make HMs overwritable if you want to be able to strategize with them without time wasting penalties.
Those are all good points. Ideally I'd like to remove the requirement for them similar to what I've seen in romhacks, but that would change how the memory is addressed likely and GameHook would stop working. I've got in on the brainstorming board though! I almost feel like just my normal method will work for now, stopping at the PC to deposit before major battles. (minus Surge). Thanks!
@@EggsceptionalThat can definitely work. But if you have the assistance of a skilled programmer and use the PRET decomp of the game then it should be possible to make those changes without changing the address libraries that gamehook looks up. Food for thought.
@@fortello7219That's great advice, thank you! I've got it copied down and I'll show the idea to my eggspert. Thank you!
A possible fix for the hm slaves not entering battle: before major battles, theres a pc cheat for fire red where you can open the pc anytime, anywhere
Ooooh. I'm not familiar with that cheat. I'll have to do a bit of investigating. Thanks for the tip! :)
It was fun with your girlfriend adding to the run, any chance you two will do more like this in the future?
She loved doing it, I loved doing it, and so far it seems everyone else has loved us doing it. In summary, you bet :)
@@Eggsceptional
Thanks, if it's alright could you thank her for trying this out in the first place and I thank you too.
@@valor1omega Of course! I'll pass it along. Thank you :)
I’m a bit confused… why didn’t you ever skill swap a second time to remove truant from medicham? Surely it would have made these runs easier?
It's a funny thing. About 2 minutes into watching the premiere with everyone I realized that I didn't once do this. All the way through both runs, and editing, not once did it occur to me. I have much to learn in doubles it seems. Thanks :)
I need this version of firered of I am sucker for double battles
I'm sure a version exists out there that's searchable! This version I wanted specifically so that I could still tie in with GameHook :)
IT'S CLOBBERING TIME
I was trying to think of how to type out an aggresive ogre-y yell. I came up with: "HHHWWHWWAAAAGGGHHHHH!!"
27:11 brunononono
35:32 oooooo 69 nice
Didn't have a ton of them in this video that's for sure. Thanks :)
Not having skill swap is like gligar not having EQ/mud slap or Alakazam without Thunderbolt
Or Aerodactyl in the earlier gens with no Rock moves :P Cheers!
0 IV supporters rise!
Playing with 0 IVs is just a huge flex in my opinion
The thought alone is nuts
That sounded more negative than I imagined
I mean this in a good way ^^
Thanks for letting me know! I think the way it'll pan out is that I'll do the 15s format for a while like with the 0 format, then hold another poll for everyone to vote on their preference. Cheers!
Eggsceptional
Back at you ;)
Stantler and Delibird run for Christmas, please!!
Would you be heartbroken if I told you I've had a Delibird/Spinda run in the works for a very long time? I recently decided to pivot their VS into a coop when this version became available to me :D I will add it to the list! I need to work in Stantler somehow..
May i ask why you never skill swapped traunt onto the enemy?
It would have allowed Diddy to stop loafing and force that onto the enemy instead.
Obviously not required in all fights but i feel this would have been very useful overall.
Apologies if this was covered in the video.
Funny story, about 2 minutes into the premiere I realized that I was able to Skill Swap Truant back off of myself. Not once when producing this entire video did that occur to me. I appreciate the tip, I definitely have plenty to learn still in this format. Cheers :)
@@Eggsceptional no problem, you can use it on the second run if you end up doing it 😊
And I agree with you starting new runs at 15IVs in each stat. Just making the Pokemon perfectly average is a good base point to compare to.
Been loving the video quality.
@@VfF8izzv Good tip, thank you :) And thanks for your input! I'll try out this format for a bit, then I'll hold a vote about what people enjoy watching the most.
Loved the video but to be honest i dont really like the racing format for this. I think it could be much more enjoyable if the doulbes run focus more on narrative and strats on how you beat the game this way. I think separate formats would be nice. Also for the love of god share this rom hack. If than could find a way of the player to choose the two staters would be cool af
That's fair enough! I'm not sure about this as a racing format, but I do enjoy keeping a timer and trying to optimize a second playthrough, if nothing else for my own fun to see my improvements. Thanks for your input! I cannot distribute roms I'm afraid.
can I ask how you made every battle into a double battle?
With the coding help of another creator we used the pret disassembly of FireRed to modify all of the battle values to indicate be doubles whenever the trainer had more than 1 Pokémon. The magical things we can do with these games nowadays :D
Dude you gotta do squirtle and charmander
Added them to the list! Thanks :)
Snorlax and Gengar
Ooo I like that one. Thanks for the suggestion :)
Its not rock slide's fault its not doing as great in the champion fight. Moves that target 2 opponents have their power split for both opponents. :
D'oh! Even with the split power Slaking took some big bites out of HP bars. Despite not being what I expected, it was also exactly what I wanted. Does that make sense?
@@Eggsceptional I think so. Lol
Did you ever skill swap Truant onto any of the enemy Pokemon?
Nope! About 2 minutes into the premiere, after producing the entire video, that thought occurred to me. I have much to learn in doubles :P ...also in general.
Teach HM cheerleaders splash
Love this suggestion! Thank you :)
If one faints at the end of turn that's a reset
Hmm I'll think about it for sure. Thanks for your input :)
Maybe you should have a hacked level 1 HM user or 2 that won’t do anything for you like a meowth or something in pkhex
That's definitely a possibility! Just make a level 1 Magikarp with all my HM moves. Someone also suggested adding Splash to all cheerleaders. Thanks for the suggestion :)
@@Eggsceptional go into the files and make it so meowth can learn every hm and dig and have the maybe see if you can also put splash as a move they learn around the level you catch them that way you can still have your meowth cheerleaders but also don’t have to use them in this doubles format.. or have magikarp do the same thing and give it the ability pickup in the files, that way it doesn’t affect the trainer battles as much lol
@@Eggsceptional that way you get your cheerleaders and don’t have to stop mid game and pkhex them to have them have splash.
@@wesleyevss I've had quite a few suggestions about this so far. It's great to see all the different ideas thank you :) There's a clever way to do this I'm sure of it!
Lol was that your girlfriend voicing Diddy?! 😂
It was indeed! We both had a blast making this :D
@@Eggsceptional lol you Legends
How can the Medicham have a female voice when he is a male in ur gameplay 😂
It's like physics in cartoons! Try not to ask too many questions :P
@@Eggsceptional looks like u avoiding it.
@@randomsonygaming7054 Nah, it was for fun! I'm not pretending to be some top notch producer.
Here early.
Always a good feeling to be early :) Thanks!
Diddy was male but got female voicing. I didn't really like it 😅
It was one of those things that I thought of in hindsight where I could have made Diddy female. Then I thought "Eh! Nancy Cartwright voices Bart". Thanks for your input!