Good video - as always - thanks! I just bought the UAD Rotary B3, and started listening to it today. Wow - very deep, and lots of controls - excellent work!!
Your predictions were accurate. And I believe you were spot on when you said I already own too many plug-ins (and good ones!) Sorry UA, that's too late for me, I am following this very good piece of advice and won't waste more money on plug-ins 😉
The writing was on the wall for the UFX 3 for a while, now. I've been drooling in anticipation since Mattias' post on the RME forum about Intel and their thunderbolt shenanigans.
The word of the day(and most days) - “Compelling!” Thanks for the great and informative videos! Some of my favorites are from your channel! Keep it up!
I've sure gotten my money's worth from my PCIe RME interface. It's been over a decade and still working fine, and the drivers are always updated and running well.
I just snatched one (the first UFX3 in my country AFAIK) so far amazing system, RME routing and options are just next level IMO, plus the quality is really good and despite the relatively high price (not so high if you compare to UAD or other higher end stuff), it's worth every penny, my old Motu which was having some hardware and also driver problems in newer windows is delegated to preamp and DA duty.
I’m deeply invested in UAD’s DSP plugins and hardware. I’m all for native versions, but there just isn’t enough available yet to get my work done with native. The 1176, LA-2, and Pultec bundles help, but they need to do a deal with SSL, and then I’ll be able to shift a lot of mixes to mostly native processing. Kind of wishing I built my workflow around API instead, but like a lot of people, I chose SSL a while ago. I wonder if they will ever strike a deal, with SSL selling their own plugins.
Hey Barry! I’ve been researching an interface update from my Apollo X6 and my two options are the Prism Titan and this RME UFX 3. Just curious if you’ve had experience with “both” units and if you could speak into latency, sound quality, etc? Huge fan of your channel sir!
Pulled the trigger on the UFX III. Sold my apollo a few years ago but kept most of my plugins in the event that I might grab a UAD sattellite or better yet flash forward to present day that they will all go native. :)
@@edwardbrands3271 I like dsp because I prefer to keep that processing off of the CPU, I use native plugins also but like how UA runs on us own processors
@@steveg219 Im with you Steve..I am heavily invested in octo cards and other UA gear..I just hope whatever is coming our way doesn't make the stuff we own obsolete
Once I realized how few of their plugins I could run at any given time, quite honestly I was turned off and didn't buy any more. I kept looking to see if either I was doing something wrong regarding the allocation of dsp or maybe I didn't buy the right Apollo unit? Nope, it just sucked, not enough processing power. Their plugins were great but they were expensive, and I was limited regarding their use, which seemed ridiculous to me, given the cost. So all of this news was a totally pleasant surprise to me! I only learned about the native plugins a month or so ago. And I think it's really great that I was able to download the native versions of the plugins I owned. Even though it's totally fair and makes sense, I wasn't expecting that. Kudos.
Hey Barry @BarryJohns love the content, excellent explanations! Quick Question regarding RME 32 channel I/O options and newest UFX III chipset. I have sufficient outboard via Midas Heritage and Cadac Live1 so micpre amps are not a concern. What do you recommend to achieve 32 I/O+ via an RME converter? Should I go with the new UFX III and add the Ferrofish 32, or will the RME M-32 AD Pro match the sonic chipset quality of the new UFX III? This will be running on the MacBook M2 processor. Thank you for your time.
Hey Barry, got to call you out here! Love the content, lots to dive into, but I gave you my sub because of your video on RME and total mix - would love to get your total mix walkthrough before the summer, I think you’ve got a great approach and conversational style that would really help out RME fans like myself. I barely use total mix as is, got the basics down but I know it can do so much and RME’s approach to education is severely lacking!
Yeah, I answer that in a previous comment, I’ve already recorded six of them, but after I spent time thinking about it, I want to wait until they’re all done, and listen all at the same time. I’m sorry, but after I thought about it just did not make sense to release him one of the time knowing, how much time it would take me to get to the next one and still get all my other stuff done. Be patient it will come out.
I’m so eyeing the UFX III. Going to save up and get it. Looks like a beast of a interface. And I know RME always delivers the good. How are you liking yours ?
Id like to see all the UAD interfaces get optional connectivity between Thunderbolt and USB built into one unit. UAD for windows has been too much of a headache for the most part. if they do this for the new interfaces I'm all in.
Hi Barry. This is off your subject. I'm looking to buy a desk to put my gear in. Who makes your desk? I like how your hardware is right in front of you. The desk looks nice too. Thanks
I’m perfectly happy with my Apollo x8 and an octo satellite. I will however upgrade my original grey Apollo 8 to the x8 when a new version is released and prices drop. DSP still works great for me in 2023 and I haven’t bought a new recording computer in almost 10 years.
Taking waaaaaaay too long for UA to actually port the plugins over. This is ridiculous now. So glad I saw the writing on the wall and bailed. Really been loving the freedom of using the PA versions - no internet, no iLok, no hardware... etc. Just working with no issues.
Ahhh so Slate sent you the VFX headphones? I commented on another video a while back asking you if you had tried them and you said write to Slate and suggest they send you a pair to review. So I did and I sent them screen capture of that exchange. So glad to see a review is imminent. I think you’ll like them. I love mine.
It is striking that so far there is only the API Vison console for Luna. There could be licensing reasons behind this. However, it is also conceivable that UA will develop a kind of hardware mixer/controller/audio interface for Luna that is precisely aligned with the API Vision console. I could imagine something like The Box from API, except that the sound comes from the computer or the internal DSP.
Because of your videos and predictions, I sold my 1st gen Apollo a couple of weeks ago before their prices on the used market plummet when new products are released. I've seen their recent sales of Apollo units, and it seems very telling that a new interface is around the corner. I'm mainly waiting for the Distressor and DBX 160 to be ported so I can get back to working how I did. I'm not a fan of them spending the time to develop and release new plugins on Spark whilst a whole back catalog of plugins that many people rely on are still yet to be ported.
Berry, you a bit flustered in the one. 😂 Great content as always though. Really interested in what UA will come out with. I held off last year from buy an Apollo when you 1st predicted this.
Agreed, plugin alliance has dominated that business model and i wish more companies followed that way. But the reason it works is because they have a lot of people constantly building plugins for them. Other companies may release a few plugins a year if that. Also they may only release a few plugins period. Take soundtoys or fab filter they don’t update often but their stuff is top notch for what it is. UA is similar in that it doesn’t do a lot of new plugin releases every year now. Subscriptions that are rent to own only truly work best when lots of new stuff is constantly being churned out. Cause if they made 5 awesome new plugins every year you’ll want to stay subscribed. This is why PA has me keep paying them every year 😂.
If you go back to the old pro tools days it's the same thing. You had to have their interface to run protools. Then they changed it to where you could use other interfaces and that changed the game. Same deal with UA. It was going to happen and it was just timing. Hopefully they keep moving in this direction and I think they will. The only thing I wonder is what they will do with native plugins verse DSP. I noticed they are in no hurry to make all the native versions so guys like me who own most of the DSP versions could just get those. They seem to keep making new ones and that bothers me a bit.
I'm selling my Apollo x4 and Presonus Quantum 26x32 and getting the UFX 3 and the Babyface Pro FS. My new Windows PC Build has been giving me hell with the new Thunderbolt 4 Drivers.
Nice.Tegler was supposed to send me a Kreme to review years ago but the the rep who reached out to me from tegler when I responded they said he was no longer with the company and they wouldn't be sending me anything 🤷🏿♂️
@barryJohns can you compare the Avid Carobon to the RME UFX 3. I use protools but the carbon cost a lost more. I was looking for an interface in place of the Carbon if possible
The Carbon is a great sounding interface. It has limited expandability and closed AVB. The main reason to buy it over another interface is if you need the DSP. Using it with other DAW’s the latency is terrible. So if you don’t require the DSP, then I’d go with the RME, which is what I did. I sold my carbon and bought a UFX+. Have not looked back.
I think studios will have to look at their business models based on expenses as plugins are moving to a subscription and may probably phase out the onetime purchase as Ai is creating advantages for that to become the new normal.
Nice video. I was wondering would RME UFX 3 be able to run a 7.1.4 setup in Dolby Atmos? I thought I would start with a 5.1 system and then expand with time to increasingly more speakers.
I have a Thunderbolt Apollo that's working great for my needs so I probably won't go for a new Universal Audio interface any time soon. I'm most curious about the new OX which I think will be coming along with the interfaces. I'm thinking they will have upgraded it to handle IRs much like the Kemper and a USB 3.0 interface upgrade. That I'd pull the trigger on.
Hey Barry, the Ferrofish interface can send through two Adat outputs, 16 channels right? The reason I ask is, I have an Old Zed r16 by Allen & Heath, and right now im able to send and receive only 8 channels from my Zed to my Apollo x8. And this board sounds great. Its to bad we create so much garbage simply because no one wants to do software/ Firmware up-grades with such a great little board.
Yeah Barry. Go fly a kite. It's going to be a beautiful day in Tennessee. If we were closer I would go with you. :o) I would love to get the native UAD plugins for my system. I have a UAD-2 card in my computer and many plugins for it but unfortunately I am still running Pro Tools 11 and as such my OS is still Windows 8.1. I can't really upgrade it or I'll have to get a different DAW. Pro Tolls 11 doesn't play well with Windows 10 or 11. My Sweetwater Creation Station computer I bought back in 2016 is still a monster and I see no current need to upgrade it. I have 32GB RAM in it as well. UA requires Windows 11 to be able to get and run the Spark plugins I already own so I won't be able to get them for free since I'm not running a compatible OS. Eventually I'm going to have to change DAW's and when I do AVID will NOT be a contender. Like you, I have no use for their business model. I am considering either Studio One or Cubase as a replacement. Then I can upgrade my OS or possibly my computer. I don't know if Windows 11 will even run on my machine. I'll have to check with Sweetwater to find out.
I won't be upgrading from my UFX+ because of the reason below DC-coupled outputs. I don't need my mastering interface with cv/gate junk on it messing with my headroom or potentially damaging other equipment as they admit themselves. "DC-Coupled Outputs - CV/Gate Voltage Control Most audio interfaces are traditionally designed with what is called 'AC-coupled outputs', where capacitors are used to filter out any extreme low frequencies. Whilst these frequencies are generally considered undesirable for audio - eating into headroom and potentially causing damage to other equipment - one instance where DC-coupling remains desirable is the world of modular synthesizers, where static or slow-moving signals are used for control over various parameters such as pitch note values or LFOs".
Good UA predictions! I also predict some sort of carbon like system with their own plugins. I hate having to put two instances of the same plugin on a chain in case i run out of DSP.
@@DanBires oh really?! that's awesome! i'll update and see if that's true, but last time i did a session last week the uadx and uad dsp were two different sets of plugins. I still run into CPU issues at times so it's nice to have the DSP (which I often also max out my 14 cores).
@@CreativeMindsAudio Yea so this only works in Luna. When you insert a plugin there is a plus sign in the the left hand corner of the plugin. Click on that there will be a drop down and you can select the native or dsp version while the plugin is engaged. All the settings stay the same nothing changes. I been using it. Works great.
@@DanBires ah that makes sense then. luna is cool, but all my templates are in pro tools right now and unless i'm starting a new unique project i'm gonna stick with it for most things. i got all the DAWs for flexibility, but ultimately i end up with pro tools because i guess i'm just a masochist 😂 (truth is that i edit fastest in it so it speeds things along well). Look forward to a day where that kinda thing is ported to other DAWs
@@CreativeMindsAudio yea protools was the first Daw I worked on in the 90’s and used it for years and experienced the same thing UA has done. Protools eventually made their software more open for other interfaces to be used. Let me ask you this. So what you are saying is you can use protools native and dsp plugins to switch in any daw other than protools? Say like logic.
I'm using a Presonus (w/Black Lion Mod) interface with Studio One 6 ~ I want to use the UAD-2 Satellite Thunderbolt 3 Octo core accellerator to run the UA Plug-ins. Any thoughts on this setup? Oh, I have a TB3 iMac Pro and plan on using the Neve 5059 Summing Mixer on the front end. Minimal outboard gear... Mic, Guitar, Bass & Genos. Considering a Slate Raven MTi2.
Barry ya better settle down with the predictions buddy, i can already hear UAD sendingan assassin for u and your source lol also heard LUNA is usable without a uad card now, how does one get it?
Barry...big fan of your channel. It's very real and I appreciate the approach, especially after all the fluff we see everywhere else. Having said that, this video bummed me out a bit. I'm hoping your channel isn't going to turn into yet another gear review channel because I just cannot stomach another RUclips account pushing product that isn't but is but isn't sponsored...you get where I'm going here. I like the conversation at the table here. You have a very good perspective on things and, again, much appreciated. Please don't turn this place into a big sales pitch channel. Currently I'm left with you and Rick Beato. Everyone else is getting the hard pass.
There will always be a review part of it, but here is the difference, all the others are being “Paid” to do the reviews, I refuse to be paid. I will always be honest on my reviews. I don’t do many, amd only products I honestly think are worth of a consideration. I turn down probably 4 times the number I’ll do. The difference with me, if I do a review, it’s one that you and others can trust that I’m doing the very best to be objective.
@@BarryJohns and I gather that’s been the approach thus far, but just always concerned that things could go belly up with accounts i follow and like. Stay the course, Barry. RUclips is a wasteland and it’s nice to come over here for some zero nonsense conversation.
I know you're very critical of UA but the thing about UA is that in their price range they are the best - hands down. I know you're very opinionated on their conversion - which I do believe the RME makes a very compelling product. However where UA 100% wins me and others over is that the system works - and that's on both Mac & Win. I personally am excited to see what they offer at upcoming NAMM.
My guess is that it will be identical in features to the UFX+ except without TB and maybe with SteadyClock FS. Also it will probably use ESS converters because AKM is still down for the count. The addition of Dante would launch the price into into the stratosphere (probably another $600) so probably not but who knows.
@@helmanfrow I tried it, but no luck. Can't find any mention of it anywhere as of today, and the original post on Gearspace has since been deleted, so stay tuned, right around the corner.........
UAD is not exactly a master when it comes to interoperability with other devices. It lacks the port capacity required for this, based on open standards such as ADAT, MADI, AVB, Dante). For extensions, you'd best keep buying UAD. The story with the plugin prices you have already mentioned. Then there are the better devices still only for Apple, that binds you then in addition to another very expensive platform. So before you get all the plugins, only to find that the performance of the Sharks is not enough, you could also think about using the services of a mixing and mastering studio, which then work with "real" analog HW. There are only a few native plug-ins available at the moment. The support of UAD should also not be so heady, I once heard. Well, everyone has to think for himself how he is best happy. Everything is not so simple...
im more concerned about our banks "crashing" and not having any MONEY to pay for real basic needs than buying recording equipment which is not needed at this time..
Your predictions were accurate. And I believe you were spot on when you said I already own too many plug-ins (and good ones!) Sorry UA, that's too late for me, I am following this very good piece of advice and won't waste more money on plug-ins 😉
They made the official announcement on the UFX 3 today. Here is a link:
www.rme-audio.de/fireface-ufx-3.html
Yes, ufx 3 is what Im waiting for so long
OK, I think I speak for everyone when I say we need a true bloopers reel..... that would be awesome! Thanks Barry always enjoy your videos, sir!
Thank you for your sincerity Barry I absolutely appreciate your views and information.
You’re always helpful, informative, transparent, kind, & fun. Thanks for all the rich content.
Good video - as always - thanks! I just bought the UAD Rotary B3, and started listening to it today. Wow - very deep, and lots of controls - excellent work!!
I feel that every manufacturer is bringing something new this year.
Your predictions were accurate. And I believe you were spot on when you said I already own too many plug-ins (and good ones!)
Sorry UA, that's too late for me, I am following this very good piece of advice and won't waste more money on plug-ins 😉
The writing was on the wall for the UFX 3 for a while, now. I've been drooling in anticipation since Mattias' post on the RME forum about Intel and their thunderbolt shenanigans.
The word of the day(and most days) - “Compelling!” Thanks for the great and informative videos! Some of my favorites are from your channel! Keep it up!
Words is hard, Barry. 😂 Weather sucks in SF today. Thanks for the content!
I've sure gotten my money's worth from my PCIe RME interface. It's been over a decade and still working fine, and the drivers are always updated and running well.
PCIe is always the best protocol to use for audio gear! Straight to the motherboard, no messing around! Is it the Hammerfall one you have?
The slate headphones are bomb! Absolutely love them! Been getting the best mixes of my life
I’d take Top Notch Boutique Conversion over anything,
You’d be surprised how good a stock DAW plug-in sounds with a high end clock.
Nice to nice how much fun you have recording. I liked the bloopers at the end.
I am curious about the UAD Apollo update.
Always enjoy your videos Barry! Thanks for the intel on UA and RME though!
Quick question;
What’s your favorite subscription bundle and why?
Plugin Alliance, no brainer, as at the end of the year they give you a voucher equivalent to what you paid to use to buy any of their plugins.
You’ll love the slate cans.
I just snatched one (the first UFX3 in my country AFAIK) so far amazing system, RME routing and options are just next level IMO, plus the quality is really good and despite the relatively high price (not so high if you compare to UAD or other higher end stuff), it's worth every penny, my old Motu which was having some hardware and also driver problems in newer windows is delegated to preamp and DA duty.
I’m deeply invested in UAD’s DSP plugins and hardware. I’m all for native versions, but there just isn’t enough available yet to get my work done with native. The 1176, LA-2, and Pultec bundles help, but they need to do a deal with SSL, and then I’ll be able to shift a lot of mixes to mostly native processing. Kind of wishing I built my workflow around API instead, but like a lot of people, I chose SSL a while ago. I wonder if they will ever strike a deal, with SSL selling their own plugins.
Hey Barry! I’ve been researching an interface update from my Apollo X6 and my two options are the Prism Titan and this RME UFX 3. Just curious if you’ve had experience with “both” units and if you could speak into latency, sound quality, etc? Huge fan of your channel sir!
Pulled the trigger on the UFX III. Sold my apollo a few years ago but kept most of my plugins in the event that I might grab a UAD sattellite or better yet flash forward to present day that they will all go native. :)
Bout time for that interface to drop
We might see a new UA at Namm in April.
I wonder if there will be a new DSP chipset on the next gen of hardware? Sharc got old but there are other options out there that could be used
@@steveg219 Lets keep hope alive.
@@edwardbrands3271 I like dsp because I prefer to keep that processing off of the CPU, I use native plugins also but like how UA runs on us own processors
I'd think it'd be a whole new lineup.
@@steveg219 Im with you Steve..I am heavily invested in octo cards and other UA gear..I just hope whatever is coming our way doesn't make the stuff we own obsolete
Once I realized how few of their plugins I could run at any given time, quite honestly I was turned off and didn't buy any more. I kept looking to see if either I was doing something wrong regarding the allocation of dsp or maybe I didn't buy the right Apollo unit? Nope, it just sucked, not enough processing power. Their plugins were great but they were expensive, and I was limited regarding their use, which seemed ridiculous to me, given the cost. So all of this news was a totally pleasant surprise to me! I only learned about the native plugins a month or so ago. And I think it's really great that I was able to download the native versions of the plugins I owned. Even though it's totally fair and makes sense, I wasn't expecting that. Kudos.
Hey Barry @BarryJohns love the content, excellent explanations! Quick Question regarding RME 32 channel I/O options and newest UFX III chipset. I have sufficient outboard via Midas Heritage and Cadac Live1 so micpre amps are not a concern. What do you recommend to achieve 32 I/O+ via an RME converter? Should I go with the new UFX III and add the Ferrofish 32, or will the RME M-32 AD Pro match the sonic chipset quality of the new UFX III? This will be running on the MacBook M2 processor. Thank you for your time.
Hey Barry, got to call you out here! Love the content, lots to dive into, but I gave you my sub because of your video on RME and total mix - would love to get your total mix walkthrough before the summer, I think you’ve got a great approach and conversational style that would really help out RME fans like myself. I barely use total mix as is, got the basics down but I know it can do so much and RME’s approach to education is severely lacking!
Yeah, I answer that in a previous comment, I’ve already recorded six of them, but after I spent time thinking about it, I want to wait until they’re all done, and listen all at the same time. I’m sorry, but after I thought about it just did not make sense to release him one of the time knowing, how much time it would take me to get to the next one and still get all my other stuff done. Be patient it will come out.
@@BarryJohns great hear! I know it’s a bit of niche market, so it perked my ears up when you first mentioned it :) looking forward to the series :)
Welcome to the best audio interface RME UFX
thanks for giving us such useful information and heads up!
Keep the studio talk comin’! I’m still looking for that TotalMix deep dive 😅
TotalMix YES !!!!
Anyone have a link to an archive of the UFX III product leak?
I’m so eyeing the UFX III. Going to save up and get it. Looks like a beast of a interface. And I know RME always delivers the good. How are you liking yours ?
Fantastic
Id like to see all the UAD interfaces get optional connectivity between Thunderbolt and USB built into one unit. UAD for windows has been too much of a headache for the most part. if they do this for the new interfaces I'm all in.
Hi Barry.
This is off your subject. I'm looking to buy a desk to put my gear in. Who makes your desk? I like how your hardware is right in front of you. The desk looks nice too. Thanks
I’m perfectly happy with my Apollo x8 and an octo satellite. I will however upgrade my original grey Apollo 8 to the x8 when a new version is released and prices drop. DSP still works great for me in 2023 and I haven’t bought a new recording computer in almost 10 years.
Not on the production end, but on livestreaming podcast end of things - the spark subscription is perfect for my work.
Taking waaaaaaay too long for UA to actually port the plugins over. This is ridiculous now. So glad I saw the writing on the wall and bailed. Really been loving the freedom of using the PA versions - no internet, no iLok, no hardware... etc. Just working with no issues.
Ahhh so Slate sent you the VFX headphones? I commented on another video a while back asking you if you had tried them and you said write to Slate and suggest they send you a pair to review. So I did and I sent them screen capture of that exchange. So glad to see a review is imminent. I think you’ll like them. I love mine.
That’s probably why they sent them to me
@@BarryJohns Well either way, can’t wait to get your take on them. 👍
It is striking that so far there is only the API Vison console for Luna. There could be licensing reasons behind this. However, it is also conceivable that UA will develop a kind of hardware mixer/controller/audio interface for Luna that is precisely aligned with the API Vision console. I could imagine something like The Box from API, except that the sound comes from the computer or the internal DSP.
Literally on Reverb and all of the sudden more UFX +'s were listed. I knew something was up!
Because of your videos and predictions, I sold my 1st gen Apollo a couple of weeks ago before their prices on the used market plummet when new products are released. I've seen their recent sales of Apollo units, and it seems very telling that a new interface is around the corner. I'm mainly waiting for the Distressor and DBX 160 to be ported so I can get back to working how I did. I'm not a fan of them spending the time to develop and release new plugins on Spark whilst a whole back catalog of plugins that many people rely on are still yet to be ported.
Thanks for telling me about Rme. I tried it and loved it Brotha!!!!!
To get a ucx2 or ufx3. What ever do I do?
Berry, you a bit flustered in the one. 😂 Great content as always though. Really interested in what UA will come out with. I held off last year from buy an Apollo when you 1st predicted this.
UA Spark should be rent to own that will be amazing
Agreed, plugin alliance has dominated that business model and i wish more companies followed that way. But the reason it works is because they have a lot of people constantly building plugins for them. Other companies may release a few plugins a year if that. Also they may only release a few plugins period. Take soundtoys or fab filter they don’t update often but their stuff is top notch for what it is. UA is similar in that it doesn’t do a lot of new plugin releases every year now. Subscriptions that are rent to own only truly work best when lots of new stuff is constantly being churned out. Cause if they made 5 awesome new plugins every year you’ll want to stay subscribed. This is why PA has me keep paying them every year 😂.
If you go back to the old pro tools days it's the same thing. You had to have their interface to run protools. Then they changed it to where you could use other interfaces and that changed the game. Same deal with UA. It was going to happen and it was just timing. Hopefully they keep moving in this direction and I think they will. The only thing I wonder is what they will do with native plugins verse DSP. I noticed they are in no hurry to make all the native versions so guys like me who own most of the DSP versions could just get those. They seem to keep making new ones and that bothers me a bit.
... A man once said he was gonna speak more in depth on Totalmix FX ... maybe a tutorial or 2 ...but hey, men do speak.
I hear you, I’ve made six so far. I thought about it, and I think it’s best to release them all at the same time.
@@BarryJohns only time will tell now ... many men await.
Ayyyyyye Baaaarry back!
love your content - am I mistaken in saying it's March 2024 and there's still no new Apollo units?
Awesome stuff. So is DSP dead because of the new Macs- M1, M2, M3?
I hope you are accurate about this new interface, I can’t wait!
I can’t wait for NAMM!
I'm selling my Apollo x4 and Presonus Quantum 26x32 and getting the UFX 3 and the Babyface Pro FS. My new Windows PC Build has been giving me hell with the new Thunderbolt 4 Drivers.
Nice.Tegler was supposed to send me a Kreme to review years ago but the the rep who reached out to me from tegler when I responded they said he was no longer with the company and they wouldn't be sending me anything 🤷🏿♂️
@barryJohns can you compare the Avid Carobon to the RME UFX 3. I use protools but the carbon cost a lost more. I was looking for an interface in place of the Carbon if possible
The Carbon is a great sounding interface. It has limited expandability and closed AVB. The main reason to buy it over another interface is if you need the DSP. Using it with other DAW’s the latency is terrible. So if you don’t require the DSP, then I’d go with the RME, which is what I did. I sold my carbon and bought a UFX+. Have not looked back.
I think studios will have to look at their business models based on expenses as plugins are moving to a subscription and may probably phase out the onetime purchase as Ai is creating advantages for that to become the new normal.
IMO Spark subscription is the only plugin subscription worth getting right now
Nice video. I was wondering would RME UFX 3 be able to run a 7.1.4 setup in Dolby Atmos? I thought I would start with a 5.1 system and then expand with time to increasingly more speakers.
I have a Thunderbolt Apollo that's working great for my needs so I probably won't go for a new Universal Audio interface any time soon. I'm most curious about the new OX which I think will be coming along with the interfaces. I'm thinking they will have upgraded it to handle IRs much like the Kemper and a USB 3.0 interface upgrade. That I'd pull the trigger on.
Ba ba Barry! ❤️
Hey Barry, the Ferrofish interface can send through two Adat outputs, 16 channels right? The reason I ask is, I have an Old Zed r16 by Allen & Heath, and right now im able to send and receive only 8 channels from my Zed to my Apollo x8. And this board sounds great. Its to bad we create so much garbage simply because no one wants to do software/ Firmware up-grades with such a great little board.
Yes you can do all 16 IO via Adat, I connect mine via Madi to free up the Adat ports for future expandability
@@BarryJohns Have you ever done a video about Madi? I dont know how it works or integrates, or even plugs in to a computer?
Yeah Barry. Go fly a kite. It's going to be a beautiful day in Tennessee. If we were closer I would go with you. :o)
I would love to get the native UAD plugins for my system. I have a UAD-2 card in my computer and many plugins for it but unfortunately I am still running Pro Tools 11 and as such my OS is still Windows 8.1. I can't really upgrade it or I'll have to get a different DAW. Pro Tolls 11 doesn't play well with Windows 10 or 11. My Sweetwater Creation Station computer I bought back in 2016 is still a monster and I see no current need to upgrade it. I have 32GB RAM in it as well. UA requires Windows 11 to be able to get and run the Spark plugins I already own so I won't be able to get them for free since I'm not running a compatible OS.
Eventually I'm going to have to change DAW's and when I do AVID will NOT be a contender. Like you, I have no use for their business model. I am considering either Studio One or Cubase as a replacement. Then I can upgrade my OS or possibly my computer. I don't know if Windows 11 will even run on my machine. I'll have to check with Sweetwater to find out.
I won't be upgrading from my UFX+ because of the reason below DC-coupled outputs. I don't need my mastering interface with cv/gate junk on it messing with my headroom or potentially damaging other equipment as they admit themselves.
"DC-Coupled Outputs - CV/Gate Voltage Control
Most audio interfaces are traditionally designed with what is called 'AC-coupled outputs', where capacitors are used to filter out any extreme low frequencies.
Whilst these frequencies are generally considered undesirable for audio - eating into headroom and potentially causing damage to other equipment - one instance where DC-coupling remains desirable is the world of modular synthesizers, where static or slow-moving signals are used for control over various parameters such as pitch note values or LFOs".
I still goin strong with presonus 192 mobile just run vocals go into golden age mk iii 1073
Good UA predictions! I also predict some sort of carbon like system with their own plugins. I hate having to put two instances of the same plugin on a chain in case i run out of DSP.
you can already do that. You dont need 2 instances of the plugin anymore.
@@DanBires oh really?! that's awesome! i'll update and see if that's true, but last time i did a session last week the uadx and uad dsp were two different sets of plugins. I still run into CPU issues at times so it's nice to have the DSP (which I often also max out my 14 cores).
@@CreativeMindsAudio Yea so this only works in Luna. When you insert a plugin there is a plus sign in the the left hand corner of the plugin. Click on that there will be a drop down and you can select the native or dsp version while the plugin is engaged. All the settings stay the same nothing changes. I been using it. Works great.
@@DanBires ah that makes sense then. luna is cool, but all my templates are in pro tools right now and unless i'm starting a new unique project i'm gonna stick with it for most things. i got all the DAWs for flexibility, but ultimately i end up with pro tools because i guess i'm just a masochist 😂 (truth is that i edit fastest in it so it speeds things along well).
Look forward to a day where that kinda thing is ported to other DAWs
@@CreativeMindsAudio yea protools was the first Daw I worked on in the 90’s and used it for years and experienced the same thing UA has done. Protools eventually made their software more open for other interfaces to be used. Let me ask you this. So what you are saying is you can use protools native and dsp plugins to switch in any daw other than protools? Say like logic.
Are the UFX II converters the same as the UFX III? Is there a difference in how much sound from one to the other?
Hello Barry 😆
The new RME ufx3 is outt!
Hey man. Miss your intro. Don’t change too much.
I forgot about that, I think I’ll keep the music the same but go get some other footage and bring it back from time to time. Thanks for reminding me.
I'm using a Presonus (w/Black Lion Mod) interface with Studio One 6 ~ I want to use the UAD-2 Satellite Thunderbolt 3 Octo core accellerator to run the UA Plug-ins. Any thoughts on this setup?
Oh, I have a TB3 iMac Pro and plan on using the Neve 5059 Summing Mixer on the front end.
Minimal outboard gear...
Mic, Guitar, Bass & Genos.
Considering a Slate Raven MTi2.
I think they are going to inquire Bluetooth also in there new interface similar to the new $800 Avid M-box interface
Go fly a kite 🪁 love your channel 🎉
any issue if i want to use an RME with Protools Ultimate..?
Hey what happened with TotalMix videos. Wouldn't you make videos?
Great insight. Thanks for making the video! You've got a like and sub from me!
Are you abandoning your RME UFXIII???
Barry ya better settle down with the predictions buddy, i can already hear UAD sendingan assassin for u and your source lol
also heard LUNA is usable without a uad card now, how does one get it?
Did UAD fix the horrible error -38 issue yet?
Barry...big fan of your channel. It's very real and I appreciate the approach, especially after all the fluff we see everywhere else. Having said that, this video bummed me out a bit. I'm hoping your channel isn't going to turn into yet another gear review channel because I just cannot stomach another RUclips account pushing product that isn't but is but isn't sponsored...you get where I'm going here.
I like the conversation at the table here. You have a very good perspective on things and, again, much appreciated. Please don't turn this place into a big sales pitch channel. Currently I'm left with you and Rick Beato. Everyone else is getting the hard pass.
There will always be a review part of it, but here is the difference, all the others are being “Paid” to do the reviews, I refuse to be paid. I will always be honest on my reviews. I don’t do many, amd only products I honestly think are worth of a consideration. I turn down probably 4 times the number I’ll do.
The difference with me, if I do a review, it’s one that you and others can trust that I’m doing the very best to be objective.
@@BarryJohns and I gather that’s been the approach thus far, but just always concerned that things could go belly up with accounts i follow and like. Stay the course, Barry. RUclips is a wasteland and it’s nice to come over here for some zero nonsense conversation.
I know you're very critical of UA but the thing about UA is that in their price range they are the best - hands down. I know you're very opinionated on their conversion - which I do believe the RME makes a very compelling product. However where UA 100% wins me and others over is that the system works - and that's on both Mac & Win. I personally am excited to see what they offer at upcoming NAMM.
UFX3 will have Dante or no?
The one B&H showed was MADI.
My guess is that it will be identical in features to the UFX+ except without TB and maybe with SteadyClock FS. Also it will probably use ESS converters because AKM is still down for the count. The addition of Dante would launch the price into into the stratosphere (probably another $600) so probably not but who knows.
Hey, Barry, go fly a kite-but only if it's a nice day with a gentle breeze!
So Rme babyface pro Fs over Apollo twin x?
UAD Diamond Bundle is really attractive. I may just get this one and stop chasing analog modeling plugins forever.
I can't find anything about the UFX 3
It was only up for a day, then got yanked as it was leaked prematurely.
@@BarryJohns What specs do you have?
@@BarryJohns What day? Maybe Wayback Machine has it archived.
@@helmanfrow I tried it, but no luck. Can't find any mention of it anywhere as of today, and the original post on Gearspace has since been deleted, so stay tuned, right around the corner.........
Unfortunately they’re seeming to take the Avid approach of making the DSP to Native switching proprietary to Luna.
If they continue with that it will be a mistake.
Sorry, I didn’t understand what you’re meaning. But UDX(Native DSP version) works with any DAW not just Luna.
only subscription imho is rent-to-own
I’m calling it: Apollo Spark, coming soon. The writing was on the wall already… Volt….. Spark…. Flash? Lightning? Lol we’ll see
when was the last time you made a hit record. bro?
Brother I’m just like you, a home studio guy who is simply sharing what he has learned after obsessing about this for 40 years😁
UA & SSL make the best plug ins…..LUNA Daw with with SSL UF8 / UC1 is a home studio dream
Remember a lot of they plug-in are soft tube and plugging alliance
@@TrapBoiFuse561 Exactly
UA's move to native is the slowest shit in the history of the world. They need to push and get it over with.
UA = expensive. Noting more to say.
I love UAD hardware/drivers, much nicer than the RME, but the UAD plugins I can for the most live without. I must be a strange fella. ;)
UAD is not exactly a master when it comes to interoperability with other devices. It lacks the port capacity required for this, based on open standards such as ADAT, MADI, AVB, Dante).
For extensions, you'd best keep buying UAD. The story with the plugin prices you have already mentioned.
Then there are the better devices still only for Apple, that binds you then in addition to another very expensive platform.
So before you get all the plugins, only to find that the performance of the Sharks is not enough, you could also think about using the services of a mixing and mastering studio, which then work with "real" analog HW. There are only a few native plug-ins available at the moment. The support of UAD should also not be so heady, I once heard. Well, everyone has to think for himself how he is best happy. Everything is not so simple...
im more concerned about our banks "crashing" and not having any MONEY to pay for real basic needs than buying recording equipment which is not needed at this time..
Your predictions were accurate. And I believe you were spot on when you said I already own too many plug-ins (and good ones!)
Sorry UA, that's too late for me, I am following this very good piece of advice and won't waste more money on plug-ins 😉