New World Dev Response Has Made Things Worse
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
- New World's recent dev video finally addresses pc players!
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Dude, there wont be ANYTHING else. So no need for roadmap.
sadly, YES
Won’t release a road map until after the console release happens.
Translation- our superiors want to see how well it sells on console before we commit to release more content. If console flops, game is in maintenance mode.
Probably some truth in this
I'd be surprised if this isn't exactly what the situation is.
facts.
AGS clearly isn't agile enough to wait that long before they start working on content. If they aren't already working on more content for after October 15th, then we just aren't going to see anything after that date, regardless of console sales.
Let's be real, this is not just what we will get by Oct 15. This is what we will get for the rest of the YEAR. They will have to go into bug fixing post Aeternum launch.
Yup, they will roll right into the played-out Halloween content, then same old Thanksgiving and Christmas. Everything about this is corpo-strategic bullshit designed to maximize the cash grab with minimal effort. The fact that this is all the content they were able to create over the past six+ months tells you all you need to know about what's (not) coming.
Its not you will get for the rest of the YEAR...its what you'll ever get.
Even if they have diabolical plans to take advantage of people, it's still embarrassing how bad they have been at disguising their intentions and convincing people to buy/play the game. I would respect them more if they directly told PC players to eat shit, rather than just give that obvious impression while advertising a free wolf-mount skin.
Scot and Katy...they need to go and anyone above them who okay's what they do. They probably shouldn't list NW on their resume either.
They said they’re going to release a Roadmap in June. And now they‘re not going to release a Roadmap in June, which means they lied. Anyone who still trusts these devs to actually do what they promise is just massively delusional.
They are doing their best to hide that this is just a cash grab and they run out of PC players to milk. Its time to milk as many console players as possible. I knew this was a cash scam years ago. As soon as they started selling QoL features like armor sets it was obvious. Nothing but low effort content and cash shop items. They said in alpha "dont worry about the store. In game armor will look just as good." That was true until they decided to sell transmog, effectively making every piece of in game gear a cash shop item. All the suckers ate that shit up like it was the best thing ever. These QoL things should have been in game for free. Not sold to people while making practically zero content. This game is a scam. The new LoTR game will be the same scam. People need to wake up. I can't believe AGS got the license for LoTR. The death of one of my favorite franchises.
Also what you neglected about the roadmap is they said it would be for 2025. All you are getting is this cash grab for console sale crap and some more cash grab
season for the rest of the year.
yet again they are pretending that raising the gear score is equivalent to new content. Regearing my endgame equipment is not content, it is a slap in the face and a statement that you do not value the time that your players spend attaining gear and finely tuning their builds only to have the rug pulled out from under them repeatedly. Instead of a new zone, we yet again got a reskin of an existing area of the map. This team is just creatively bankrupt scammers at this point. Dave should leave asap since you can see in his eyes that he's the last one with an actual soul and going along with these other clowns is damaging it.
Yeah imo Dave looks genuinely crushed at having to go along with this charade
And raising the gear score sucks in my point all the gold and we spent on our 700 gear is useless lol😅
most mmos do this
The fact they havent Even added an OPR map in this entire time since it came out. Just goes to show the level of f**** that they don't give. That's why I stopped playing after I got through brimstone sands an did all that content. Because I knew they weren't going to be doing anything else for a very long time, if ever. And what they're doing here with the console launch just goes to show that even more that they really just do not care want to do the bare minimum an fuck all of us
Right? OPR is literally the PvP mode most of the community plays and they couldn't add a new map in three years?? The fact that this game released with only one OPR map is beyond ridiculous to start with.
@@CeresOutpost exactly lmao. Like for real how long would it take to make another map.. maybe a week at most. It ain't like they'd be designing an entirely new game mode. All they had to do was create a small arena with some already created mobs and assets an boom. People would have been happy.
pvp tend to be the worst performing lowest roi content in ever game so it does make sense tbh
Well I guess its time to go back to TESO
Enjoy snappy dialogs and Oblivion NPCs
@@aresakmalcus6578 And ice skating combat with trash animations (but after Slayer Script update NW is pretty close to it haha)
@@calder2618 but I have a loooot of content
@@aresakmalcus6578 ty man
I have a theory that the console launch will be the deciding factor if AGS will continue with new world. And thats why they cant give a roadmap or any info about whats planned beyond that, because that would be kind of a scam if AGS decide to sunset the game because of sales not meeting the expectations. So its a make or break moment in October where all focus is on polishing the game until then
100% if console sells, they cobble together a roadmap. If it doesnt, they'll scatter like roaches and keep quite until their next project
6 months? This won't even come until October, which is STILL 4 months away. Further, they basically said the next roadmap won't happen until 2025, which means nothing for Nov or Dec ... heck, we aren't even getting another Season event.
They lied about the roadmap. AGS have proven that they dont care about following their earlier roadmaps anyways, adding like 50% of promised content. Most garbage dev team in gaming history.
Probably won’t ever go back to “Old World” … potential for wasted
What's coming after October? I'm sure they'll finally update the MSQ.
Funny, you think there's more content after October. This is the beginning of the end.
since its ARPG game and Console is main Income source, i think you are right.
It's timed to roll right into the Halloween event, which is the same holiday content and rewards every year. Then they have the same old Thanksgiving and Christmas events. They won't release any new content this year at all. They don't need to. The content is all new for new console players, and that's what they care about.
AGS needs to keep away from LOTR. Clearly they can’t handle major projects.
They can't even develop NW properly, what makes them think they can develop LOTR mmo? 😂
At this point I'm fairly certain that their Lord of the Rings MMO will be cancelled by spring 2025 if not sooner.
after Oct 15, after launch, they will see how much mor ethey can invest into New World and thus roadmap will depend on Console Sales.
I have a question for you, have you seen the announcement about the console tests, it says that they will have to test experiments with unique weapons, does this mean that there will be a new weapon that will have every statistic?
I'm wondering if DX12 means the implementation of frame generation. Would be nice to get a smoother experience in highly populated areas.
I know the devs mentioned FSR upscaling in one of the interviews that got taken down, but I think a lot of people are CPU limited so this won't necessarily help much.
jay i quit new world back in early 2023 but I think you and I share so many of the same takes. I do have a question for you though. At what point will you call it quits? Like at what point do you say 'I've had enough ags you no longer have my support'?
Increase gear score is the worst thing they did
why?
they pretty much making all the existing player base to refarm everything plus pvp island, that is the content...
Agreed!!!
@@lfom2011 yeaah and I hit it, I don’t know who they thinking
@@lfom2011 We dont know that yet. Probably upgrade material...
Can somebody please tell me what matchmaking is? And what is the difference from the matchmaking that already exists? Because last I played like a year ago we could queue into matches of arenas and OPR. What is matchmaking if it's new?!
To balance groups in things like OPR. Or at least that's what I think they mean.
They should provide a road map around September. It doesn’t make sense to drop one now because there isn’t anything until October. It would be awkward from a marketing perspective.
Waiting until after the patch is wrong, but dropping one right now is also wrong (given we now know we get nothing until October).
Console players could give the game this almost sense of day 1 again, thats really my only hope. That being said New World has so many things that other MMOs fall short for to me... (The combat) My aim actually mattering in this out of literally every other MMO makes it one i will literally always hold onto....
Although your aim matters with mouse only
Some people needs to be fired!
Some company’s shouldn’t exist. But Morons keep giving them money
No. Ppl like you should have left the game at day one. You were begging for an easy game.
@@moo8698 i one you ain't referring to me... give me grind or give me death! I'm so tired of walk through games and being handheld with participation trophies. I want harder games. My first mmo was ffxi so no...
This "roadmap" is what should be quarterly content added to the game on a developed MMORPG imo, especially if you make it seasons based. They confirmed they will keep going with seasons when there were only 3 seasons this year, including the expansion one, and season 4 and 5 had nothing into it other than 1 10 man trial. Also the fact they have been answering over and over the same questions was very upsetting, and the way they answered them at some point like "again, no" with kind of a smile... man they selected the questions, it's non acceptable they make it like people are idiots for asking questions when they pick the same ones formulated slightly different.
They are going to make the raid insanely hard so PvE focused players don't leave after a couple of weeks.
Well spoken Jay, as always, but I just want to say one thing... Life is out there waiting for us. Game is in our room, into our pc.... Those unfortunate events, from Friday till today will be forgotten and pass into history as a big fail... My point of view after a lot of nerves and frustration with what happened is this: They fck up, but we cannot change the past, if you like the game and want to play it in October just go casual, play rhe hours you want to play, with the content we currently have, or just leave the game, and go for another one!! Good work as always man!!!
I’m done with New World. I just can’t believe the level of incompetence this team has to constantly miss everything they told us that would get better. I prefer spend the lil freetime I got for some other games that worth my time.
Raids for the 1%... ... ... 1,000,000 or so in units sold with 5,000 current concurrent players is 0.5%! So what you are saying is that we DID get content! Awesome!!!!!!
Honestly I think following the 15th of Oct the only thing we are going to get is seasons a few times a year. I really think this is it.
I'm just glad that it's going to be cross play. I want to run dungeons over and over again. Now we just need mega servers where we have cross region.
Roadmap for 2024:
Jan-Sept: (gaslighting PC player)
Oct: NW: A for console released!
Nov-Dec: (Vacation) + fixing thousand of new bugs...
😂😂😂
With the grotesque amount of bugs in the game currently, I'm happy they aren't stuffing more content in. I'd just break things further. A full focus on bug fixes for the remaining months is a good thing imo.
This game has been created by developers that never really played MMOs for real. This is why they are detached from reality. They have a team of less than 60 people with no passion for the game they made. if you see their faces, they are bored AF and tired.... with a team that small compared to Team 2 of Blizzard which is develops WoW and they have around 300 developers... it shows they don't have a strong Lore and the stories they develop are good but short, and not enough, so getting more content struggles...
Imagine if they could/would create 6-8 dungeons with 3 to 5 bosses + 1 raid with 8-9 bosses every 6 to 8 Months, like WoW does... the game would still be strong and bringing millions...
Their past mistakes pushed people away, like having no freaking mounts in an MMO at launch, what a joke... or not being able to open the Inventory while running... 5mins in at launch, my friends and I wondering how we could do that... and a year later they made it possible...
The graphics are beautiful, but this particular 3D engine is not easy to work with which has pushed Dev times more than anticipated. The gear problem... I've spend maybe 50 hours alone searching for items I could not find... the Search option for the inventory came over a year later. Then we had plenty of different profession sets, and combat/dungeon sets... a way to manage and saved sets came way too late and they stuck it behind a paywall...
They have always been playing catchup with content and they eventually brought features needed at Launch but very late. Amazon should have hired someone with MMO experience in a real MMO title and not these guys. Even finally fantasy 14 DIrector took the first edition offline and made all the dev team play WoW for 6months... so to understand how an MMO works, plays, what to do, what never to do... Like ok they are gong to need Mounts... lets not do the maps so small that people will eat content too fast... but they took the cheap and easy way which made them lose half the player base in a month and kept going down... Yes besides the server issues at launch, the low capacity, etc...
I really hope this game would be a true contender against World of Warcraft, Guild Wars2, and FF14. But the short vision of whoever is leading this gaming studio from Amazon is shown.
Amazon being nearly a 2 Trillion dollars company clearly has hired cheap Developers and Managers that could not envision an MMO that could be lead the others into the future...
It loos more like a Ghetto Game Studio... and the new game they are making will probably suffer from the same lack of direction and commitment to players.
I know this has been a long post... but I see they are still doing the same crap with different smell... now they are trying to enter the console market, and it will still suffer from the same bad and low content cadence. Sorry for any spelling mistakes, English is my second language :)
are these guys going to do the lord of the rings mmo? hope not
the game needed a big content drop to really bring people back, something the size of the original game at least. multiple new weapons, at least 2-3, new Zones, new enemy types and so on and so on. we've been in a holding pattern for almost the entirety of 2023 and 24,
Definitely frustrated that I got my hopes up, but these are things that players have been asking for for a long time. I'm hopeful that the change to cutlass keys will be great. I think that a full year of little to no content really shows just how broken things have been this entire time. I hope that means that they've put the full effort into fixing things for the launch of console
So if there is a gear score rise wtf happens to the artifacts?
I wouldnt be suprised if u have to regrind
Probably upgrade them with the same upgrade material?!
They should of leaned into what the community said in the beginning. It was like a old school runescape. They should of added more skills and made the grind much harder. The gold cap would be an issue. They could of added very rare perfect roll items to expeditions similar to artifacts that gave people a reason to grind content and so on.
Why didn’t they just release this photo alongside the aeternum dev announcement trailer?? 😭 People still would have been disappointed, but I don’t think there would have been nearly as much outrage. Especially considering most PC players won’t have to spend a dime to come back on Oct 15 (or whatever the delayed day will be).
Definitely a missed opportunity here. It will for sure hurt console sales, but If the community calms their panties, we could still see a relatively successful console launch. Honestly, NW doesn’t need one million concurrent, just a few hundred thousand. And I think we could see those numbers on relaunch day 🙏🏻
no new zone because they want people packed closer together
They should have released this video the same day of the announcement. I'm still disappointed because I was expecting improvements in pvp, but at least I'm more comprensible now that I know this.
losing my house in first light was when i started playing other games instead of nw. cutlas change will be the last nail in nw coffin.
I have uninstalled this games many months ago. With all the recent drama surrounding this game, I have no intention of ever returning. Thank you AGS, you have helped me move on to play other games. I will not even bother with LOTR seeing how bad this game was handled. o7
Devs: In 18 months time if you play your cards right, one person per realm will have the opportunity to grind for a 'golden carrot' mount attachment which may, or may not increase your mount speed by 0.25%, but owning the carrot is a double edged sword in that - for every 100 yards you travel on your mount with the carrot equipped your character level will decrease by 50% which means youll have to re run old content just to get back to the same level you were 2 hours ago. Until that time we plan on introducing a bunch more bugs for PC users whilst at the same time refining the experience for console users before console release.
Leaving for Once Human
After 5200+hrs, I have finally UNINSTALLED the game, once again.
You'll be back again one day. Just to see what has changed 😂
The Force in not strong in Aeternum, and the Jedi are leaving in droves. I personally spent 3000 hours in the GAme and enjoyed it but doing the SSDD became a drag. Maybe okay if you only play the WARS/OPR but for the mainsteam players once you have completed the Quests there is not a lot to keep you coming back.. On a brighter note the base game including the DLC is good value and woth the asking Price.. My personal view the Game needs an Annual DLC as a new map. Perhaps this doesnt bring in enough $ for AGS to do it , hence the rework of old maps, or the engine they use cant handle it? At this I cant see me venturing into the lands of Aeternum in the near future.
Do we know if cross platform game play means that every one can play on the same server console + PC co living ? OR the cross platform Play is only for : Arenas / OPR / Expeditions ?
yes console and pc players will be able to play on the same server
can't wait to stream the SUMMER MEDLEY FAIRE for the next 4 months 💩
I imagine getting ready for console and dx12 has been sucking up alot of time. It's going to be a challenge for ags to simultaneously release patches on three major platforms at the same time.
I am still annoyed at how the announcement was handled. But it is what it is .... I just find combat frustrating ...
maybe someone can make a New World classic emulated server, fix the bugs and at least we have that combat system. Kind of like Everquest Project 1999
so like do the devs hate their game or what? lol it's bad decision after bad decision and failing to meet anything that would directly improve the game, just constant widening the scope for lateral updates just for the player base to not grow because the game still sucks and barely runs on even the latest computer hardware. new world will 10000% die. it's been almost 3 years and they do the most stupid lateral updates not a single player has asked for. and on top of that, can't even put out a 6 month roadmap, a HALF YEAR road map was too much, why? because they're not gonna do shit to the game, liek the haven't been for 3 years excluding like 2 decent updates.
I think this video was pretty straight forward and good though. Clear answers no content until October, focus is bug fixing and a smooth release. Clear answer roadmap is for next year and even if it was not clear in words it is kinda clear after a release you focus on fixes and playing the new content. So October-december is for reworked game and raid/pvpve/progression. I think it's enough especially if you go for a fresh start.
The roadmap though, is neccesary. Better make a roadmap and small delays for the releases than no roadmap. It is needed to get buyers as you just said.
Everything in this announcement picture though especially the "and more" section is really something you see on good early access games. So yeah, now Aeternum is officially in early access we can say! And for us it is a true early access since we get the game for free. So I hope for console players the game is this easy to fix and control now as they hoped for. Otherwise it will be horrific.
GS 725... all existing gear cannot be use? need to regrind again? so this game is basically asking me to regrind and regrind and regrind for the sack of the Gear score. BTW, can we have indicator on the player whether he is PC or console player?
They are marketing NWA to console people as an action RPG (including “play solo or with a friend”), not an MMO. Console players used to games like Elden Ring are going to be extremely disappointed as it is a pathetic action RPG (it’s an MMO after all). Nevertheless, I believe the lack of a road map is because they may make new content away from an MMO and more towards an action RPG if the game does well with console sales.
Why would you “exclude the expansion and exclude the Aeternum” parts? Both of these are adding to the game.
Can’t wait for the next expansion where they just rework monarch’s bluff /s
pve end game should be hard but with appropriate rewards for the difficulty, the problem with the worm is that its too hard for the low quality rewards
On bdo we getting huge patches every week. U guys gotta wait 4months for anything? Thats so messed up ngl
I think a lot of people like me don't really expect a lot of new stuff, but finally a bugfree experience. AGS really is champion on adding bugs.
i guess now's a chance for me a casual to get caught up on everything, if thre's anyone left to play with...
hopefully they don't fuck up controlelr support this time. Staggerable enemies could be good and add a tactical layer to PvE combat, if done right. Also I already suspect it wont work on bosses
Not coming back. After this debacle, no way.
The Logic Of hArDcOrE gAmErS:
1. Game on its last legs with low playerbase, company swings for the fences with console release, hoping it can make the game profitable enough for further development/server costs.
2. Devs announce the one thing that can keep away dreaded maintenance mode: console release. Huge announcement, mass communications, showing the game to a new audience, adding enhancements and making a big splash.
3. PC hArDcOrE gAmErS, only people playing, around 3.7 of them, horribly angry because they wanted a company who is ALREADY LOSING MONEY, to add more content, to "bRiNg bAcK" PC players who are never coming back.
4. Crying ensues.
Keep winnin' that game, son.
The pvp zone will be awful. One entrance and exit, no points to control (to move the battle and create constant content), and apparently no other reason to go there except to gank people with muskets.
Races are at least directed. They just don't happen often enough. But w/e. AGS is full of fail.
I wonder if they’ve even tried to make another opr map
I thought it was good. It's not a sub game but everyone acts like it is. Relax! We are getting content. Take a break if it's upset you so bad because of a relaunch.
Promised the moon, got some rotting cheese. Well played, Scot "Only Plays Solo" Lane.
So... In other words, Amazon... It's an MMO.
Remember even if they announce roadmap, they will likely not to deliever stuff, it already happened once... Like Jay said, New world will NEVER be my main game and for many others, i will hop in, play for a week, two max finish the story, do the new dungeon once or twice, then move on... And i don’t think i will buy another expansion if they will do one, don’t want to support this mess...
3 years into development and they STILL don’t have idea who is their main audience... Original was full loot PvP survival game, then PvP focused MMORPG with a bit of PvE then they moved to full themepark with bigger focus on PvE and now it is soloable storydriven ARPG with option to COOP/multiplayer
Its because their roadmap depends on if they sell enough copies on consoles.
There's a reason mmos don't make their own engine. Look at rift and gamebryo. They had monthly updates of this size for years and their first expansion was like 12 zones. They said the reason they could release content so fast is because of the maturity of the tools and game engine made creating new content so easy.
I have a feeling AGS and their engine situation was similar to halo with infinite, where it took them half a year to release a new arena map and add scoreboard. Hopefully they're at the point after this year they can release regular content updates. I think new world was just an excuse to develop their engine especially with lotr.
Thanks for the video Jay. Cherish those moments when you can smile and forget about us all. Enjoy your day at the theater!
...are they at least giving us daggers?
They confirmed that daggers are NOT coming, so forgot about it. Is not gonna happen.
🙂
To me this doesn't seem like a lot of work for an entire year. I really like pvp but I've been bored for a while, a new zone isn't gonna keep me motivated really.
If this dev team stays as the lotr mmo, it's doa before release
Myabe do you want with community to start on fresh start server ? AGS may host events that influencers can do with its community?
can you imagine these guys running LOTRs?
At 3 minutes I had to stop listening to this. I watched their Q&A. "They said it's for consoles in polite way", well obviously, but who will it benefit? The players who cry there are no players? If it goes well we will have crap ton of content again made by the players, and that is the point of an MMO. "They said there will be no updates until October.. blah blah blah". There will be one season and 2x different PTR tests where we can try the new content before October. EZ 100-200 hours played BEFORE the actual release. Stop crying dudes with 10k hours on it who wants to refund
Yeah because testing shit for them on PTR and then playing it again at launch is "content". Quit simping so hard. If you like the game, you do you. But don't come here expecting everyone else who has been burned by AGS for three years now to fall in line like good little sheep.
@@CeresOutpost200-300 of ptr? 😂 Is not open beta.
Swimming and dx 12 no way
Ngl swimming is the coolest addition of all of this, that says a lot
I think we all need to go outside and touch grass. New World should not be the only game you play. They probably don’t want to release content anytime soon because Elden Ring DLC is coming out and no one want to compete with that.
I just got done playing OPR it was pretty good.
and we dont even know if this update get at october OR we have a stylish of delay HAHA> . if they were a 1% percent more clever on 7th trailer they respon on 8th with an update OR they release TL to let people spend the summer on TL till octobers update. NOT EVEN 1% strategy. they want only the money .
Lol basically i just have to regrind for all the gear i spent countless hours getting. Might stop playing tbh not sure yet
I’m so done with this game man, it’s depressing as fuck watching them both everything to do with this game repeatedly. AGS is probably the most mismanaged game studio ever and they need to seriously rework the staff there. Scott seems so dense and tone deaf to the community it’s laughable
The new unannounced roadmap is, get new customers on console so we can disappoint them like we did with the PC players
Even though they are dropping the ball i am pumped for this because my wife and 2 of my friends are console players. They are all buying it when this drops so they can play with me.
raids perhaps should have mutated versions to allow everyone to experience it and then as you gear up, understand the mechanics - try the harder stuff.
Enjoy the Theater!
As someone that owns a Series X and PS5, New World is certainly a nice cozy couch option....But sure AF not paying more money to have it on console when i already own it for PC...and since its cross platform I would hope there is an option for console players that own the game already on PC to use that liscence on Console....But im gonna guess its 99.9% chance they will say sorry, you would have to buy it again lol.
Dead game is dead? hehe
You know they just want to sell on console and then basicaly ditch the game right? There are no plans after this
There is zero interest for this on consoles. They wasted time and money to piss off what little player base they had left.
I haven’t played new world since November but what it seems like and honestly looks like, is that AGS is doing whatever they can to make new world hit on consoles and hope those players stay. PC players are already disappointed and expect more from AGS but console players are new and won’t. If new world launches at 70 bucks it’s worth it for console players they will get their 70 bucks worth of content and AGS knows that. It just sucks that I beta tested this game for 1000 hours. Never again…
MMO game is like this we're never met for console just the way the algorithm is set up the way you fight the way you run around the way you do Quest it's just not meant for consoles so they just pretty much throwing all of us PC players under the bus like I have talked about this with other RUclipsrs this game will be dead within a year they're going to bury themselves these type of games were meant for PC not console systems they're literally making their own beds yes you're going to attract a few console players but a true MMO player is going to play on the PC every time I can honestly say I won't be back
What we will get in another year 😏 not this October, we all know that they always did that
Fresh start world. This is where make it or brake it i think, if this end up like last time fresh start with loads and loads of people que, its doom, but if sharding/layer works this could make it i said a bit better for nw aeternum
The best way to sum up this game is "great potential wasted". I played this game until last month. If they dont care about PC players who have supported them through all of the ups and downs which we all know was mostly downs then they can try to fill the ptr with employees. Just let the game die guys and we can all talk about it as a giant waste of potential
Just so funny that they did their "big" console update in a DEV VIDEO. Like, what!? I'm sure this will get to console players eventually, but probably 95%+ of people watching the dev updates are current PC players. They should have done an ACTUAL dev update for us, and THEN a special announcement for console. Such a cluster...