Jaw development/growth isn’t as genetic as the dental field suggests. It’s more environmental than anything, that’s why kids who mouth breathe have receding chins and a under developed mandible. If children would be taught proper tongue posture from an early age, that constant tongue pressure would widen the maxilla causing a sufficiently wide palate.
@@Axmed_Hobyo This comment is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever read. Do you expect orthodontists to tell you that jaw development isn’t genetic therefore invalidating the whole point of there industry
You are so correct! And early intervention with removable appliances is so easy on children. I didn't think orthodontists were still butchering innocent people and damaging their health and and looks.boh, I forgot to follow the money.
@Miss Vida pls take ur time and just answer my question I too have overbite I mean protruding side profile 1. I have extracted my first premolars in upper and 2nd premolars in lower will I get changes in my side profile 2.after how many month u saw changes in ur treatment 3.are u satisfied with ur treatment? 4 any changes in lips?
@@shifa3284 I never had any teeth extracted but with the size of the gaps I had, you’d swear I did😂😩 you may see changes within the First two months but everyone’s teeth are different so I cannot give you a very accurate time frame. Im very satisfied with my treatment. My lips went more inward instead of protruding out, my profile and cheekbones look better. @Hendra Li I am not a bot lol.
@@missvida6251 really? I had an overjet and ever since I got it fixed with braces my cheeks sunked in and face got thinner, I kinda look sick sometimes
Braces and elastics pulled my Jaw back into my airway and changed my face profile. I can barely breath anymore and the most infuriating thing is I basically had straight teeth before braces.
Retainers? I ripped my retainer out, 6 years after treatment, against the advice of two orthodontists and two dentists. I used needle nose pliers. Three weeks later my jaw stopped clicking and causing pain while I eat.
Okay I really hope you answer! I’ve had braces for 10 months I came in with a mild over bite and bad crowding. But only a few months in I noticed my cheeks got sunken in and my face seemed much slimmer. Still ten months in my friends and family notice my face is much longer and skinnier I hate it. Should I get the braces off and hope that my face goes back to normal?? Before braces my face very full and my check bones were very high but not now!! He did want to take some teeth out but we decided not to because I didn’t want my face to become worse.
@@steph-anie1448 yes dont extract teeth plzz Its an healthy teeth just to get your teeth inside dont do it Its better to be little bucktooth then sunken cheeks
Yes, braces ruined not just my face, but my neck and back also. I am in pain all of the time, and can say that it is ruining my life. I can't get it fixed till I win the lotto and undergo braces again with multiple jaw extending surgeries. Or get braces then veneers or dentures. The teeth/arch positioning misaligned the top portion of my skull, like I'm stuck looking up vs my head positioning prior to braces. The teeth are so veritcal they now tip inward, and I have horrible neck pain, migraines, and OSA. My teeth feel like a wall/wedge that doesn't allow my top portion of my head to rotate downward/level, how it was before braces, because the lower jaw's teeth have been moved back and inward, which positioned the lower jaw permanently down/open. Like my chin is touching my neck if I rotate my head to level position it was before braces. Imagine looking up and opening your mouth wide, and the dentist sticking a wedge/block just inside each of the arches. That is what is happening when they reposition arches that "stick out" and pull them back to make them flat. The space between the vertibrae in my neck is compressed due to the mal-alingment. I now have tmj and scoliosis and degenerative disk disease in my neck. I now experience a myriad of neck, back and shoulder pain issues. I used to be a ballet/jazz/modern dancer and lost range of motion and mobility. My dentist did to 75% of his patients, for the extended treatment fees. Get them in the door at "2 yrs" treatment estimate, neglect to mention it will actually be a 5-6 yr treatment, with the remaining 3-4 years charges as monthly extended treatment fees. #gravytrain I would give anything to have the teeth I had prior to braces, and would have gone with a different dentist- no extractions.
I need extractions only on my lower jaw and expanders can't be used since I'm 20 but at the same time i have crowding and my palate is too small. What should i do?😢 Please answer
Lemme share my opinion guys I had crooked n slightly overbite from 2013 Now im 19 so i decided to put braces on to fix it My dentist said to removed 4 teeth But i n my mom refused then she told about IPR system im lucky that my dentist is really good in her work She did very well I hd done IPR N its just 3 month running n my teeth already become straight just hav little gap She said that the gap will b fill in more 3 4 month... N also for IPR n just put braces on my upper teeth for 1 years Its short time N not painful 😊
As a non professional I can tell you how it did cause me breathing problems. I had narrow jaw and overbite on my upper teeth...extracting my two pre molars was a very bad solution cause it did got my bunny teeth in but it ignored the relations to my lower jaw, my lower jaw started bumping on my upper teeth so I adopted the habit of taking my jaw back forcefully because of The lack of space the upper extractions caused me. Years later I can literally see how my chin and molars got to an unhealthy position...my teeth might look straight but my bite is ruined and I have no room for my tounge now, so when I sleep it drops even more in and choke me. I got braces when I was 17 I can literally see I had a different healthy chin if anything they could have pull it forward to close the gap and treat overbite with other solutions. the extractions made my skull class II and ruined my life. I have overbite molars position without the overbite now....great If it's not severe overbite and crowding don't pull your teeth out it's irreversible...you can try different ways first at least before.
What other ways are there other than to extract teeth if your jaw is too small? 😢 Please tell me. I suggested an expander to my orthodontist but I'm 20 and it's used on younger patients and he said there is no other way other than extraction but my jaw is indeed too small and I have crowding. What should I do😢 I've already started treatment so there's no going back now and these comments are scaring me😭
If you had retractive orthodontics and got forbid extractions hell no. And they want to retain your mutilated skull too. There is hope, effects can be reversed before you start running into real medical problems and start looking 20 years older than you are. Do your research and save yourself.
@@alisonbecker9833hey I’m thinking of getting invisalign/braces as I have crooked teeth and a bad smile. But some of these stories really are scaring me. Ones to do with extraction etc. Of course I want to fix my smile, but not at the cost of my face and jaw changing for the worse. If I tell my orthodontist to avoid extractions and orthodontist retractions, will it be fine? Should I mention anything else? Please help!!
Two celebrity examples as an argument that it never causes problems? Shouldn't one with an eye for the truth be looking for examples of times that extraction possibly did cause problems? To put forth the case of these two celebrities as an argument seems dishonest.
Okay so I may get braces. I’m 33. I have hypodontia and so I have a lot of retained baby teeth and permanent teeth didn’t come through. 4 missing teeth and no wisdom teeth. My jaw is quite small too and as a result the molars go inwards and the very front incisors jut out a little causing my mouth to protrude. Orthodontist has suggested to removed the molars which happen to be the baby teeth. I’m worried if this will ruin my face or make and not better. I have full fat cheeks and get told I look very young for my age. Also because I have a week jawline. I’m mainly wanting to get braces to care for teeth and bite better. Worried the extractions with cause wrinkles and make me look ugly.
Hey bro, how does your jawline is ruined I am also having an overjet and i just got braces 1 week ago Please tell what happened to your jawline Does your teeth are pulled inwards and your jaw is still outside? Which makes your jaw looks weird and your jaw is more visible on your face than other features?? Please help!!!
But you didn't mention the tongue aspect. Jaws are small, teeth big and you just straighten the teeth the tongue still wont fit at the roof snd breathing remain bad if not worse. You're describing of expansion sounds more if severe expansion's done. Mild shouldn't be problematic. Rather removing teeth I see that as problematic and actually not solving a person's breathing and TMJ problems
braces also change the face, pulling everything back and looking like a horse, can my face return to normal without a doctor's help? I've had four teeth removed, but I heard that my mother also had four of her adult teeth removed because they had cavities and the gaps closed on their own without a doctor's tools, could that happen to me too?
I got wisdom teeth removed when im 15 years old im 20 now and it ruined my symmetry and now I got braces in my new dentist and she wanted to removed my other wisdom teeth in another side of my face to balance my jawline, I will tell him today that I dont want to get tooth extraction my face is already ruined in left side my right face side is gorgeous and I will protect it they won't get anything to me if they dont have any better plans than extracting a teeth and aligning it for better teeth, most dentist only care in teeth alignment better go to orthodontist that care in facial appearance.
Mmmmmm I can tell you my extractions caused me breathing problems and sleep apnea. so did my headgear. id rather have my teeth overextended than have sleep apnea/insomnia. A lot of people who got teeth out back in the day was because they had small jaws with overgrowing. When you take the teeth out, it shrinks the jaw even more. why do you think so many people are doing MSE/marpe? TO UNDO WHAT HAS BEEN DONE. also how long have you been practicing? I didn't even know I had airway problems until 2 years ago. When you take out teeth, you can survive by having TMJ problems when you have undiagnosed sleep apnea, but then your body cant compensate anymore and u start developing PAIN and worsening sleep apnea.
Hi, I was really wanting to have my premolars extracted but the orthodontist insisted not although my instinct really wanted to move forward with removing teeth. Should I extract my teeth or just leave it to the orthodontist to just do stripping, but he has told me it will not make change much on my facial profile at all but I can really see in the mirror that my teeth are protruded whenever I close my mouth it just look so bulgy. I have a class 1 case.
Instead look into other types of treatments that for the teeth if they're crowded instead. But don't pull them if they aren't causing real health concerns!
Wouldn't recommend getting Extraction/Retraction Orthodontics Period, Ever watch Dr Bill Hang's videos? He said he stopped doing that around 30 years ago....
The orthodontist we went to, said my daughter needs removing 4 teeth for a bit overbite, I was not happy with that but I went to her dentist to show her the letter and she didn't agree with taking her 4 teeth out...I have been so stressed with this situation, I don't know what to do 😔
Braces are a waste of money and time they do more harm than good and let’s face it orthodontists get pay dentists kick backs for every patient they refer to them. Let’s face it they are getting richer at your expense and driving around in a $160,000 BMW. Here’s my advice for any parents out there looking to force their children to get braces let them decide they can always get braces when they are older
You’re a clown for this. 9 times out of 10 people that have had braces tell me how worth it was cause now they are happy with their straight teeth. I’m in the process of braces and I couldn’t be happier to finally fix some long term issues that I’ve always wanted to change.
@@laurennicole2222 apparently the Orthodontic Profession makes it a "Malady" when often times it's actually normal. I heard there's also "Dental Protrusion" (E.g not skeletal) that apparently can result from jaws being somewhat Recessed, and teeth flaring in order to compensate for insufficient tongue space.
@@luke14946 as someone who had jaw surgery for this I can tell you I was HIGHLY uncomfortable and unattractive before correcting it. For me it wasn’t necessarily all cosmetic I was in terrible pain from being unable to close my lips
![Open Bite Braces Treatment [BEFORE & AFTER!]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/B065lKPxyJc/mqdefault.jpg)
![Open Bite Braces Treatment [BEFORE & AFTER!]](/img/tr.png)
Jaw development/growth isn’t as genetic as the dental field suggests. It’s more environmental than anything, that’s why kids who mouth breathe have receding chins and a under developed mandible. If children would be taught proper tongue posture from an early age, that constant tongue pressure would widen the maxilla causing a sufficiently wide palate.
@@Axmed_Hobyo This comment is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever read. Do you expect orthodontists to tell you that jaw development isn’t genetic therefore invalidating the whole point of there industry
You are so correct! And early intervention with removable appliances is so easy on children. I didn't think orthodontists were still butchering innocent people and damaging their health and and looks.boh, I forgot to follow the money.
@@alisonbecker9833 yep, unfortunately I was a victim of extraction/retractive orthodontics
@@BrandonGlock19xWrong.
I never mouth breathed or sucked my thumb, but I still have crowded teeth so how do you explain that?
I'm glad I just had too many gaps! Now my gaps are closed and my overjet/overbite is fixed. Now just working on my bite. My face is perfection now!
That's great!
Me too, only gaps and overjet, did you use braces or Invisalign?
@Miss Vida pls take ur time and just answer my question I too have overbite I mean protruding side profile
1. I have extracted my first premolars in upper and 2nd premolars in lower will I get changes in my side profile
2.after how many month u saw changes in ur treatment
3.are u satisfied with ur treatment?
4 any changes in lips?
@@shifa3284 I never had any teeth extracted but with the size of the gaps I had, you’d swear I did😂😩 you may see changes within the First two months but everyone’s teeth are different so I cannot give you a very accurate time frame. Im very satisfied with my treatment. My lips went more inward instead of protruding out, my profile and cheekbones look better.
@Hendra Li I am not a bot lol.
@@missvida6251 really? I had an overjet and ever since I got it fixed with braces my cheeks sunked in and face got thinner, I kinda look sick sometimes
Braces and elastics pulled my
Jaw back into my airway and changed my face profile. I can barely breath anymore and the most infuriating thing is I basically had straight teeth before braces.
Does not wearing your retainer reverse the damage? Would you know?
No it doesn't,
@@luke14946 srsly? So your bite won't change after braces? If your teeth move back I feel so will your bite. Your face my bounce back of you're lucky
@@evelyngonzalez901 no stuff doesn't go "back to normal" after Extraction/Retraction, not back to square one....
But worse than square one.
@@luke14946 Oh what if we didn't get extraction/retraction but they still moved my maxilla back with elastics even though I didn't get extractions
Retainers? I ripped my retainer out, 6 years after treatment, against the advice of two orthodontists and two dentists. I used needle nose pliers. Three weeks later my jaw stopped clicking and causing pain while I eat.
Okay I really hope you answer! I’ve had braces for 10 months I came in with a mild over bite and bad crowding. But only a few months in I noticed my cheeks got sunken in and my face seemed much slimmer. Still ten months in my friends and family notice my face is much longer and skinnier I hate it. Should I get the braces off and hope that my face goes back to normal?? Before braces my face very full and my check bones were very high but not now!! He did want to take some teeth out but we decided not to because I didn’t want my face to become worse.
Did you get any extractions for braces?
Did u have a convex or protruding side profile initially?
Lol dont do it
My cheeks become sunken i look like a patient
Dont extract teeth plz
I dont know to get full cheeks now i m crying😭😭
@@danishsayyed7597 does extractions cause a sucken face?
@@steph-anie1448 yes dont extract teeth plzz
Its an healthy teeth just to get your teeth inside dont do it
Its better to be little bucktooth then sunken cheeks
Yes, braces ruined not just my face, but my neck and back also. I am in pain all of the time, and can say that it is ruining my life. I can't get it fixed till I win the lotto and undergo braces again with multiple jaw extending surgeries. Or get braces then veneers or dentures.
The teeth/arch positioning misaligned the top portion of my skull, like I'm stuck looking up vs my head positioning prior to braces. The teeth are so veritcal they now tip inward, and I have horrible neck pain, migraines, and OSA.
My teeth feel like a wall/wedge that doesn't allow my top portion of my head to rotate downward/level, how it was before braces, because the lower jaw's teeth have been moved back and inward, which positioned the lower jaw permanently down/open. Like my chin is touching my neck if I rotate my head to level position it was before braces.
Imagine looking up and opening your mouth wide, and the dentist sticking a wedge/block just inside each of the arches. That is what is happening when they reposition arches that "stick out" and pull them back to make them flat.
The space between the vertibrae in my neck is compressed due to the mal-alingment. I now have tmj and scoliosis and degenerative disk disease in my neck. I now experience a myriad of neck, back and shoulder pain issues. I used to be a ballet/jazz/modern dancer and lost range of motion and mobility.
My dentist did to 75% of his patients, for the extended treatment fees. Get them in the door at "2 yrs" treatment estimate, neglect to mention it will actually be a 5-6 yr treatment, with the remaining 3-4 years charges as monthly extended treatment fees. #gravytrain
I would give anything to have the teeth I had prior to braces, and would have gone with a different dentist- no extractions.
how old were you when you got the extractions and braces?
@@lonwabomfuntana6108 17, almost 18
I need extractions only on my lower jaw and expanders can't be used since I'm 20 but at the same time i have crowding and my palate is too small. What should i do?😢 Please answer
@@jinhub2175 get multiple consultations from highly rated orthodontists and go from there.
Lemme share my opinion guys
I had crooked n slightly overbite from 2013
Now im 19 so i decided to put braces on to fix it
My dentist said to removed 4 teeth
But i n my mom refused then she told about IPR system
im lucky that my dentist is really good in her work
She did very well
I hd done IPR
N its just 3 month running n my teeth already become straight just hav little gap
She said that the gap will b fill in more 3 4 month...
N also for IPR n just put braces on my upper teeth for 1 years
Its short time
N not painful 😊
As a non professional I can tell you how it did cause me breathing problems. I had narrow jaw and overbite on my upper teeth...extracting my two pre molars was a very bad solution cause it did got my bunny teeth in but it ignored the relations to my lower jaw, my lower jaw started bumping on my upper teeth so I adopted the habit of taking my jaw back forcefully because of The lack of space the upper extractions caused me.
Years later I can literally see how my chin and molars got to an unhealthy position...my teeth might look straight but my bite is ruined and I have no room for my tounge now, so when I sleep it drops even more in and choke me. I got braces when I was 17 I can literally see I had a different healthy chin if anything they could have pull it forward to close the gap and treat overbite with other solutions. the extractions made my skull class II and ruined my life.
I have overbite molars position without the overbite now....great
If it's not severe overbite and crowding don't pull your teeth out it's irreversible...you can try different ways first at least before.
What other ways are there other than to extract teeth if your jaw is too small? 😢 Please tell me. I suggested an expander to my orthodontist but I'm 20 and it's used on younger patients and he said there is no other way other than extraction but my jaw is indeed too small and I have crowding. What should I do😢 I've already started treatment so there's no going back now and these comments are scaring me😭
I have got sunken cheeks and temples, will they get back to normal after braces?
No
@@uroojpathan8988whyyyy?
@@ambergirl1821 because the effect of braces is permanent
If you had retractive orthodontics and got forbid extractions hell no. And they want to retain your mutilated skull too. There is hope, effects can be reversed before you start running into real medical problems and start looking 20 years older than you are. Do your research and save yourself.
@@alisonbecker9833hey I’m thinking of getting invisalign/braces as I have crooked teeth and a bad smile. But some of these stories really are scaring me. Ones to do with extraction etc.
Of course I want to fix my smile, but not at the cost of my face and jaw changing for the worse. If I tell my orthodontist to avoid extractions and orthodontist retractions, will it be fine? Should I mention anything else? Please help!!
Two celebrity examples as an argument that it never causes problems? Shouldn't one with an eye for the truth be looking for examples of times that extraction possibly did cause problems?
To put forth the case of these two celebrities as an argument seems dishonest.
I wonder what's going on with the poor posture and rolled-forward shoulders?
That's how I looked until I started trying so hard to mew.
You got results after mewing?
Okay so I may get braces. I’m 33. I have hypodontia and so I have a lot of retained baby teeth and permanent teeth didn’t come through. 4 missing teeth and no wisdom teeth. My jaw is quite small too and as a result the molars go inwards and the very front incisors jut out a little causing my mouth to protrude. Orthodontist has suggested to removed the molars which happen to be the baby teeth. I’m worried if this will ruin my face or make and not better. I have full fat cheeks and get told I look very young for my age. Also because I have a week jawline. I’m mainly wanting to get braces to care for teeth and bite better. Worried the extractions with cause wrinkles and make me look ugly.
I had a severe overjet and It was fixed by braces.But my jawline is ruined.Will mewing help to get a sharp jawline.I'm still having the braces .
Hey bro, how does your jawline is ruined
I am also having an overjet and i just got braces 1 week ago
Please tell what happened to your jawline
Does your teeth are pulled inwards and your jaw is still outside? Which makes your jaw looks weird and your jaw is more visible on your face than other features??
Please help!!!
But you didn't mention the tongue aspect. Jaws are small, teeth big and you just straighten the teeth the tongue still wont fit at the roof snd breathing remain bad if not worse.
You're describing of expansion sounds more if severe expansion's done. Mild shouldn't be problematic. Rather removing teeth I see that as problematic and actually not solving a person's breathing and TMJ problems
braces also change the face, pulling everything back and looking like a horse, can my face return to normal without a doctor's help? I've had four teeth removed, but I heard that my mother also had four of her adult teeth removed because they had cavities and the gaps closed on their own without a doctor's tools, could that happen to me too?
Its destroyed my face and life
I got wisdom teeth removed when im 15 years old im 20 now and it ruined my symmetry and now I got braces in my new dentist and she wanted to removed my other wisdom teeth in another side of my face to balance my jawline, I will tell him today that I dont want to get tooth extraction my face is already ruined in left side my right face side is gorgeous and I will protect it they won't get anything to me if they dont have any better plans than extracting a teeth and aligning it for better teeth, most dentist only care in teeth alignment better go to orthodontist that care in facial appearance.
Samee here
Same
Same here 😭
@@SalvationinChrist990 can braces ruin ur face
Mmmmmm I can tell you my extractions caused me breathing problems and sleep apnea. so did my headgear. id rather have my teeth overextended than have sleep apnea/insomnia. A lot of people who got teeth out back in the day was because they had small jaws with overgrowing. When you take the teeth out, it shrinks the jaw even more. why do you think so many people are doing MSE/marpe? TO UNDO WHAT HAS BEEN DONE. also how long have you been practicing? I didn't even know I had airway problems until 2 years ago. When you take out teeth, you can survive by having TMJ problems when you have undiagnosed sleep apnea, but then your body cant compensate anymore and u start developing PAIN and worsening sleep apnea.
If your teeth protrude or flare teeth extraction will make u look way better.
What if you have crowding?
Hi, I was really wanting to have my premolars extracted but the orthodontist insisted not although my instinct really wanted to move forward with removing teeth. Should I extract my teeth or just leave it to the orthodontist to just do stripping, but he has told me it will not make change much on my facial profile at all but I can really see in the mirror that my teeth are protruded whenever I close my mouth it just look so bulgy. I have a class 1 case.
Instead look into other types of treatments that for the teeth if they're crowded instead. But don't pull them if they aren't causing real health concerns!
@@SwedishTourist I'm 20 but my jaw is too small but I do have crowded and my orthodontist said I need lower jaw extractions, what should I do?
I have a tmj assymmertry and I am advised to wear braces to stop the unequal growth. Should I wear them?
Can getting bottom teeth extracted and fixing an overbite cause any changes do your cheeks, chin or jawline? If yes then how so?
Wouldn't recommend getting Extraction/Retraction Orthodontics Period, Ever watch Dr Bill Hang's videos? He said he stopped doing that around 30 years ago....
The orthodontist we went to, said my daughter needs removing 4 teeth for a bit overbite, I was not happy with that but I went to her dentist to show her the letter and she didn't agree with taking her 4 teeth out...I have been so stressed with this situation, I don't know what to do 😔
Sir braces and Invisalign which one causes extraction?
Braces are a waste of money and time they do more harm than good and let’s face it orthodontists get pay dentists kick backs for every patient they refer to them. Let’s face it they are getting richer at your expense and driving around in a $160,000 BMW. Here’s my advice for any parents out there looking to force their children to get braces let them decide they can always get braces when they are older
You’re a clown for this. 9 times out of 10 people that have had braces tell me how worth it was cause now they are happy with their straight teeth. I’m in the process of braces and I couldn’t be happier to finally fix some long term issues that I’ve always wanted to change.
Let a kid decide? Stop your joke
Bro it's way hard after a certain age.
These braces and extraction really ruined my face and life 😭
Why
What if I'm already having small face and lips??
Same with me and I don’t want my face ruined so what happened to your face?
Hey can you share your experience?
I think i have damon braces
Yall get extraction only if you have protuded teeth
What if one has crowding but the jaw is too small?
How can i contact you, I'm from India
i think it will be fun if you conduct a discussion in front of public with Joh Mew or Mike Mew, especially about "early prevention".
Happy Mewing
Treatment for Bimaxilliary protrusion?
Don't do anything, Bimaxillary Protrusion is usually normal and not worth having Extraction/Retraction.
Bimaxillary Protrusion is typically normal, and not worth having Extraction/Retraction for.
@@luke14946 it absolutely isn’t normal and in most cases surgery is the only fix. It’s a genetic abnormality and highly unattractive
@@laurennicole2222 apparently the Orthodontic Profession makes it a "Malady" when often times it's actually normal.
I heard there's also "Dental Protrusion" (E.g not skeletal) that apparently can result from jaws being somewhat Recessed, and teeth flaring in order to compensate for insufficient tongue space.
@@luke14946 as someone who had jaw surgery for this I can tell you I was HIGHLY uncomfortable and unattractive before correcting it. For me it wasn’t necessarily all cosmetic I was in terrible pain from being unable to close my lips
Yes it can . It ruined my face.