Muay Thai Girl vs Kyokushin Girl - Bon Bon vs Lara

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  • Опубликовано: 13 май 2024
  • We have Muay Thai girl Bon Bon take on Kyokushin Orange Belt Lara. This looks like it was filmed at the Kyokushin gym. Enjoy our commentary and stay for our thoughts on some of the comments to a previous video. Lots of great martial arts discussion in this video. Guest hosting with Jerry is Adil.
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    Timecodes:
    0:00 Pre-match predictions
    0:23 Round 1 initial commentary
    1:30 Round 2 initial commentary
    2:32 Slow motion analysis
    5:14 Responding to comments on previous video
    7:33 A good way to test questionable techniques
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Комментарии • 60

  • @neokimchi
    @neokimchi 23 дня назад +6

    Some clarification on kyokushin:
    1. Orange is usually the first or second belt right after white belt. So karate girl here is very likely a beginner. (My own dojo's belt order is exactly as you described, white-blue-yellow-orange, but that's not common.)
    2. Scoring: these are the rules I'm used to, maybe not universal in kyokushin: The first round is almost always scored a draw, even if one fighter is generally controlling the fight, unless somebody scores a proper knockdown. There's some details to this, but in general, if a 1st round doesn't feature a knockdown or KO (or, in lower levels, a solid headkick regardless of if it results in a knockdown), even if it's clear somebody is better, it's usually considerrd a draw.
    The second round is supposed to work similarly, and a decision is supposed to be made after the third. But at lower levels, often times the officials will choose not to drag things out past the second round and to just give a decision to the person who is doing better instead of moving on to the third.
    3. Maybe not relevant here, but highest level kyokushin often offers very few weight classes, so size discrepancies can be more common than in other fight sports. And low level kyokushin often doesn't involve weigh ins at all, just arbitrary eyeballing to match people up, sometimes really badly. Therefore this matchup, although definitely unfair size-wise, isn't totally unrealistic 😅
    Idk why, esp. as there are so many Japanese fighters in the sport who are smaller, and as a bantamweight in a sport that rarely has classes below lightweight, it makes me sad lol

  • @Bartron_Flat_Earth
    @Bartron_Flat_Earth 24 дня назад +17

    Two white belts 😄

  • @rodrigocrispim
    @rodrigocrispim 24 дня назад +15

    I got the same sensation of reality watching Virtua Fighter from 90's console Play Station.

  • @constantinosfudas3785
    @constantinosfudas3785 24 дня назад +7

    sounded like you said "cute cushion people" i love it

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  24 дня назад +4

      XDDD

    • @tracyrobison5104
      @tracyrobison5104 24 дня назад +1

      This should be a shirt for female kyokushin practitioners. It'll sell like hotcakes!

  • @FightCommentary
    @FightCommentary  24 дня назад +1

    The video we were mentioning in the end should be in the video description and in video cards. Also, Bon Bon's channel is liked in the description. 泰拳辣个bonbon,有时间我们做个采访! 你在西方有很多粉丝!

  • @DreanPetruza
    @DreanPetruza 24 дня назад +4

    We all agree this is a super low contact fight, right?

    • @nicholasgreen339
      @nicholasgreen339 22 дня назад +2

      Whats wrong with light contact sparring ..
      In Europe this is how you learn to sparr
      Especially if your going into full contact
      Full contact sparring isnt effective
      At all
      Its a fallacy
      Its cool if ur experienced in years of sparring
      but if your new to sparring you have so much to learn in general
      In Thailand hard sparring in 90%of clubs
      Is not allowed .
      Only light sparring
      They fight for money
      Dont understand hatd sparring
      It dont prepare you for a real fight at all.
      Can make you into a walking punch bag

    • @DellaDykeborn
      @DellaDykeborn 22 дня назад

      I started Muay Thai at 57 and don't plan to ever fight for real real. Only light sparring.​@@nicholasgreen339

    • @diddlenfiddle7311
      @diddlenfiddle7311 15 дней назад

      @@nicholasgreen339 Don't you need a mix though?
      I totally agree that hard sparring is overrated but I think it's good for learning to deal with the stress of the danger.

  • @catspaw
    @catspaw 24 дня назад +4

    MT girl definitely has more sparring practice under belt than the Kyokushin girl (orange belt equates to around 1~2 years of training. It normally goes White -> Orange or White -> Yellow -> Orange, depending on the school). I was impressed by the MT girl's distance control and usage of both orthodox/southpaw stances. Her punching technique was also very clean, though you can tell that she is not used to having to aim for the body only.

  • @hmuphilly9129
    @hmuphilly9129 23 дня назад

    Is this in taipei?

  • @gamingdragon1356
    @gamingdragon1356 23 дня назад

    Orange belt is just after white. She did pretty well for an orange belt.

  • @realSOnoYa
    @realSOnoYa 24 дня назад +4

    Adorable

  • @saiyanninjawarriorz
    @saiyanninjawarriorz 22 дня назад +1

    Does BonBon have her own channel?

  • @The8thImmortal
    @The8thImmortal 24 дня назад +3

    Kyokushin did well and outperformed Muay Thai Girl. I can tell she was doing exactly as she was taught, which shows her level of understanding the techniques. With time will come the understanding of timing, distance awareness, power, strength, strategy, etc. But overall she did greiat 💪🏽 Also, i want to add, this is great and much needed experience for a beginner!

  • @nicholasgreen339
    @nicholasgreen339 22 дня назад

    Great match from 2 novices
    Imagine them in a few years time
    They doing whats meant to be done
    Pressure testing from tbe get go.
    Some clubs only let you sparr until
    after 4 years of training..
    .very odd.
    And dont put u into competiton either. .
    Also odd.
    I dont see anything wrong with this sparring at all
    They dont train full time either
    Lol
    And they were impressive
    Kept control
    I bet they were nervous knowing it was getting filmed.
    We see pro fighters. At the end
    Finished product
    But never the blank canvas

  • @dominicijavier1575
    @dominicijavier1575 22 дня назад

    no punches to the face because they dont have head gear. not even mouthguards i think

  • @WxvesVFX
    @WxvesVFX 24 дня назад +1

    I do kyokushin i know how to punch 😔

  • @mapiusp6743
    @mapiusp6743 21 день назад

    What the hell did I just watch! They looked like they were just playing!!

  • @PerunaMuayThai
    @PerunaMuayThai 24 дня назад

    Do some aikido style wrist grab escape tests

    • @jestfullgremblim8002
      @jestfullgremblim8002 24 дня назад +2

      They are legit, but kinda situational as (for most of them) whoever is grabbing you cannot be in a neutral, balanced position. That is because most Aikido techniques exploit your opponent's movement and many of them expect the opponent to not expect the move or to be used in combination with another one (just like every other martial art. I can't just tell you "I'm going to throw a jab at you" and then say that boxing does not work when you avoid it)

    • @PerunaMuayThai
      @PerunaMuayThai 24 дня назад

      @@jestfullgremblim8002 see Rokas videos with his wife throwing punches at him and not knowing how she's supposed to react when techniques are done to her and how when even an untrained uke doesn't know how to be compliant the tech won't work. Also aikiders don't know how to punch well so the wrist do be hanging out there for moves.

    • @PerunaMuayThai
      @PerunaMuayThai 24 дня назад

      Not to say that Rokas is the only Aikido source to look into but he's the only one I know to have tested anything in a For Realz direction

    • @Aikibiker1
      @Aikibiker1 24 дня назад +1

      The wrist grab thing in Aikido is for weapon defense. I.e. to defend your weapon from being grabbed or defend an attempt to keep you from drawing your weapon. They make a lot more sense in that context.
      I never had a problem with untrained ukes not going where I wanted them to go using wrist locks when I worked in a hospital and regularly fought psych patients. Where I had problems was turning them over onto their stomach after the wristlock takedown for the traditional pin/handcuffing. I ended up using either non standard Aikido situational stuff or grappling.
      Ikkyo worked very well and put them in a perfect position to be handcuffed afterwards.

    • @PerunaMuayThai
      @PerunaMuayThai 24 дня назад

      @@Aikibiker1 Why do the wrist defense videos from their own libraries never show weapons? Also look up Mike Tyson aikido it's funny.

  • @catcrapinahat
    @catcrapinahat 22 дня назад

    I would like to test their submission skills especially the muay Thai chick, she probably has a good leg triangle...

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  22 дня назад

      She did some stuff with BJJ people. I’ll look for those.

  • @guitarnoob989
    @guitarnoob989 15 дней назад

    Kyokushin belts from lowest to highest
    white
    orange
    orange strip
    blue
    blue stripe
    yellow
    yellow stripe
    green
    stripe
    brown
    brown stripe
    black

  • @skipkick
    @skipkick 23 дня назад

    Just because she has Muay Thai shorts doesn't make her a true Nak Muay Ying

  • @MrAlepedroza
    @MrAlepedroza 24 дня назад +2

    Love to see BonBon improving. She's a baddie too 😏

  • @monpetitpeid3582
    @monpetitpeid3582 22 дня назад

    Sparing session by two green belts.

  • @lawrencemacd63
    @lawrencemacd63 23 дня назад

    Beginners the two of them

  • @chrisdutoit2641
    @chrisdutoit2641 18 дней назад

    That is not MT

  • @thunderkatz4219
    @thunderkatz4219 23 дня назад

    Kyokushin can punch to the face

  • @johnwesley3971
    @johnwesley3971 22 дня назад

    Muay Thai girl isnt using muay thai...

  • @Ratva666
    @Ratva666 12 дней назад

    That's my girls.💋💋💋💋💋💋💋💋💋

  • @RoyRope
    @RoyRope 22 дня назад

    With camera angles like that you know its fake right away

  • @chuahmaster3036
    @chuahmaster3036 21 день назад

    Like cartoon

  • @DouglasGomesBueno-jw9lh
    @DouglasGomesBueno-jw9lh 24 дня назад +3

    Oyama crying in the Heaven seeing how modern Kyokushin are now Remember when People are rip apart in Oyama Dojo it's embarrasing seeing this True Kyokushin are brutal.

    • @cahallo5964
      @cahallo5964 23 дня назад +2

      she is an orange belt bro chill out lmfao

    • @mrpgarner1982
      @mrpgarner1982 23 дня назад +3

      ​@@cahallo5964for real, he needs to chill.

    • @nicholasgreen339
      @nicholasgreen339 22 дня назад

      Lol Kyokushin isnt even 60 years old lol
      Shotokan is only 100 years old
      Kyokushin is based on k1 kickboxing and shotokan
      And k1 kickboxing is based on muay thai and karate
      Which created Japanese kickboxing
      Wich went to the usa
      Merged with what was being taugt in the usa
      bcame
      American kickboxing
      Came to europe
      In England it merged with lau gar kung fu karate judo Taekwondo
      Also went to Holland
      Merged with
      Dutch boxing karate judo
      Taekwondo
      And created 3 styles
      Dutch kickboxing
      Dutch k1 kickboxing
      Dutch muay thai
      The founders of Kyokushin woud not be upset at all
      They were into developing people's ability
      Kyokushin and shotokan r not traditional karate either
      Tbey r Japanese styles
      Traditional karate is from Okinawa
      And Okinawn were taught it by chinese martial arts masters
      In some parts of china they still do karate katas
      Thats where karate comes from

    • @cahallo5964
      @cahallo5964 22 дня назад +2

      @@nicholasgreen339 Only your first 2 sentences are correct the rest is all wrong

  • @XD_SPIDER
    @XD_SPIDER 24 дня назад +5

    both r noobs lol I m a kyokushin shodan

  • @gtestastretta1
    @gtestastretta1 22 дня назад

    Was that a pillow fight? Oh no a pillow fight would have been more brutal.

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  21 день назад

      I’m covering a pillow fight league soon too!