Love the video of the upgrades. I have recently purchased a 2001 Lagoon 380. Structurally as new throughout. Replacing standing rigging, sails, electronics, solar and wind generations. I can see why they built 1000 of these, such great value for money. Cant believe these people ranting about bulkheads coming away from the hulls on some boats. Common problem on many brands, power and sail. In Western Australia we call it the sea breeze fracturing. Given enough pounding, every boat will eventually do it. You should see the repairs required on aluminium ferries!
Very well said. Appreciate your comment. Re the ferries, yes I actually have a friend doing a replacement of ferries for one of Australia’s capital cities, been major issues.
You know about the bulkhead problems at Lagoon? Check them all and see the chapters of “parlay revival” here on RUclips ruclips.net/p/PLpkEwzHmNVAiyI63zVGpehoy-tYc4GyLO
At first I figured hurricane damage was the problem with these production boats. Now I see boats with normal wear and tare are having the same inferior construction problems. Lagoon is the Bayliner of production cats.
After everything I've seen lately with reviving parlay, I wouldn't have one of these lagoon boats if you gave it to me, over priced pontoons.... smh straight crap manufacturing
No, we are in Australia. Parlay’s problem is much different to ours. Our issue is specific to the early series L400, and was caused by freshwater tank challenges stationed near the forward port bulkhead. It was a known problem that Lagoon did address (to their credit) in the early days. The later models are not having this issue. Thank you for watching.
Now you all know why a Privledge costs more. Aluminum structure hull to hull full height bulkheads vinylester resin aluminum beam under mast step dyvinicel core not cheap water logged balsa..
The whole thing unfolded to what you see here by innocently placing a blade under what had been 'newly laid glass mat'. I cut back a small piece and two days later, got to the bottom of the issue. Would love to chat, appreciate the comment.
Et me guess broken bulkheads ?? They are finding that alot on ALL lagoon models you should look up sailing parlay revivals channel they are talking about some type of class action suit over 100cs+ of broken bulkheads
In some early versions of the L400 series, condensation formed below the port water tank in a semi sealed section. This lies against the forward bulkhead and hull structure. This condensation had no where to escape and with movement, seeped into the bulkhead timbers causing challenges. To Lagoons Credit, they stepped in repaired under warranty, not sure if this was one of them. In some early L400’s it happened, others it didn’t. ALL yachts, mono or cat, have issues, it’s part of the ‘rough and tumble’ of boat ownership. We detail more information here: diycatamaran.com/lagoon-repair-l400.html. We are more upset at the supposed ‘professional repair’ than the issue itself.
Love the video of the upgrades. I have recently purchased a 2001 Lagoon 380. Structurally as new throughout. Replacing standing rigging, sails, electronics, solar and wind generations. I can see why they built 1000 of these, such great value for money. Cant believe these people ranting about bulkheads coming away from the hulls on some boats. Common problem on many brands, power and sail. In Western Australia we call it the sea breeze fracturing. Given enough pounding, every boat will eventually do it. You should see the repairs required on aluminium ferries!
Very well said. Appreciate your comment. Re the ferries, yes I actually have a friend doing a replacement of ferries for one of Australia’s capital cities, been major issues.
Wow... How are Lagoon going to recover after their shoddy workmanship is all over RUclips.....
This confirms that Lagoon catamarans are a total waste of money, apart from being a danger to all those sailing on them !
this is a fact that every one must consider and understand, think 3 times before going for the fancy Lagoons !!!
seems like they are meant for charter owners or something.. somewhere where you can depreciate the complete asset after < decade.
If RUclips has taught us anything, it's 'don't buy a Lagoon'.
truth
I wouldn’t buy any mass production catamaran. Not only lagoon also Fountaine Pajot are cheaply built as well.
@@marcbloch1963 The price tag aint cheap though!
LAGOONS ARE JUNK, THESE BULKHEAD FAILURES ARE COMMONPLACE!
You know about the bulkhead problems at Lagoon? Check them all and see the chapters of “parlay revival” here on RUclips
ruclips.net/p/PLpkEwzHmNVAiyI63zVGpehoy-tYc4GyLO
Add a few more to the list, ruclips.net/video/eniqyjvICvs/видео.html
I'm getting the idea that Lagoon boats are built by a high school shop class.
By high school dropouts you mean
@@johnversteeg1184 Even worse, built by the French 😂🤣😉
Hey man my high school shop class rebuild my mach 1 for cheap and did a top notch professional job soo bad example
At first I figured hurricane damage was the problem with these production boats. Now I see boats with normal wear and tare are having the same inferior construction problems. Lagoon is the Bayliner of production cats.
Neat and tidy workmanship ! Lagoon are starting to scare me what if any of the models are truely sound
After everything I've seen lately with reviving parlay, I wouldn't have one of these lagoon boats if you gave it to me, over priced pontoons.... smh straight crap manufacturing
I’ve been thinking the same thing, and the other boat in the same yard in Panama and now ten in Martinique. Lagoon couldn’t give these away!
Built by the French… nuff said
Does seem the Lagoon cats have major structural issues. not good. these videos have changed my mind for sure.
Are you also next to Parlay? He and next to him have the same problem with the bulkhead right now.
No, we are in Australia. Parlay’s problem is much different to ours. Our issue is specific to the early series L400, and was caused by freshwater tank challenges stationed near the forward port bulkhead. It was a known problem that Lagoon did address (to their credit) in the early days. The later models are not having this issue. Thank you for watching.
Lagoon as a brand ard dead in the water !
Now you all know why a Privledge costs more. Aluminum structure hull to hull full height bulkheads vinylester resin aluminum beam under mast step dyvinicel core not cheap water logged balsa..
Not only Lagoon showing shoddy design and workmanship, Beniteau has failures as well, of course, it is the same company.
Need to join the class action against Lagoon, when it goes ahead. NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE.
Parlay Revival all over again....
Lagoon needs to give payouts to these boat owners. Terrible designs and craftsmanship
Go after the SYRVEYOR law suit
Will be picking your brains when we cross paths next James.
👍🏼
The whole thing unfolded to what you see here by innocently placing a blade under what had been 'newly laid glass mat'. I cut back a small piece and two days later, got to the bottom of the issue. Would love to chat, appreciate the comment.
ANOTHER lagoon bulkhead...I can see a major lawsuit coming down the pike, just a matter of time now
As I suspected, it isn't just the 450, it's got to be all the Lagoon's with the same terrible workmanship.
Et me guess broken bulkheads ?? They are finding that alot on ALL lagoon models you should look up sailing parlay revivals channel they are talking about some type of class action suit over 100cs+ of broken bulkheads
that first repair was quick fix, not professional repair. Nice upgrades you made. See you around.
Thank you
Lagoon do cheap !
What happened ???
In some early versions of the L400 series, condensation formed below the port water tank in a semi sealed section. This lies against the forward bulkhead and hull structure. This condensation had no where to escape and with movement, seeped into the bulkhead timbers causing challenges. To Lagoons Credit, they stepped in repaired under warranty, not sure if this was one of them. In some early L400’s it happened, others it didn’t. ALL yachts, mono or cat, have issues, it’s part of the ‘rough and tumble’ of boat ownership. We detail more information here: diycatamaran.com/lagoon-repair-l400.html.
We are more upset at the supposed ‘professional repair’ than the issue itself.
Terrible video
Theres just no personal interaction with who owns it. Who is fixing it, talk to us