Metal thinks he’s Sonic is also a fake and believes he himself is the real Sonic. The robot is literally in a self delusion and perhaps in an existential crisis.
Considering that Eggman made shadow androids looking so close to the original they could be passed off as one, I'm surprised he didn't ask for an upgrade. (Though he probably destroyed every last shadow android once they were activated to prove a point)
Sonic Heroes was the first Sonic game I owned. Seeing Metal Overlord again and hearing them just straight-up use What I'm Made Of was just pure nostalgia. This fight was magical to me.
Heroes was my first Sonic game and I was most intrigued by Shadow and Metal Sonic, so this fight is just everything I could’ve hoped for. Him calling Shadow a fake hedgehog is just brilliant. The voice isn’t as cool now but his lines of being driven clearly made by wanting to be more than just a copy of Sonic, him having Chaos Control, and him using the Chaos data he stole to cause the whirlpool are just perfect
Yeah sadly Sega is most likely never gonna get Ryan back to voice Metal or regular Sonic ever again. And because of that Metal just sounds more like a generic monster like villain vs having some levels of complexity to how he sounds.
@@justinanderson2631 He has layers of complexity though especially in his speech, and I just feel like this VA was just given the direction of him being some giant talking monster.
@@Burning-TwilightI think you just prefer Ryan's voice, there is nothing wrong with just saying "I prefer this voice for the character". From my perspective the new voice sounds fine.
@@anwd8646 Right, but pretty much every remix in Sonic Generations is even better than the original tracks. Tho I suppose Shadow Generations DID give us those horrendous Chaos Island dubstep remixes so maybe you're right 💀
@ I did think they sounded a little off, guess I could say they were archaic to me? Like, they’re not absolute garbage (it’s sonic franchise music after all, it’s almost impossible to stuff up) but it doesn’t sound right, especially given how by this point I can kinda remember the chaos island background tracks quite easily. To put short, don’t try to dubstep an orchestral piece.
@@astraldog3359 It would be a cool visual or detail, many things that are implemented could be considered "waste of time" but them being in anyway is what makes a game so much better to look back to
What I like thematically about all of Shadow's Boss fights in this game is each one is connected to him not just in that he's fought or encountered them before, but that they share his DNA in a way (though Mephiles is a bit of a stretch)
From needing all 12 characters plus the Chaos Emeralds in Sonic Heroes to defeat Metal Sonic, to Shadow being able to destroy him by himself and without a superform.
Yeah even with a power boost Shadow honestly should have struggled to even put a fight against him. But then again Generations combat system relies on players just throwing stuff per se at most of the bosses.
@@Burning-Twilightnot rlly. Shadow would’ve won regardless due to power creep, it’s why him and Sonic are able to beat opponents that formerly required them going Super
@@rickyronny4019 So you're saying that if present day Sonic were to be pit against foes like I don't know Dark Gaia he would be able to beat them in his base form alone?
@@Burning-Twilight possibly. Sonic in base form back in Unleashed was already powerful enough to damage Dark Gaia. And even if he couldn’t it don’t change the fact that he and Shadow beat characters that formerly required Super forms to win
Sonic defeated Chaos, an entity that required Super form to fight. Doom powered Shadow defeated Metal Overlord, which required 3 super forms to fight... Doom Shadow's strength is ABSURD!!
One Superform and two hyper mode Characters* Metal Overlord is indeed more powerful than Perfect Chaos but he was defeated by a Chaos Powers Frenzy of Team Sonic being Sonic the only one that really can do anything to Metal. Tails and Knuckles were just an extra buff, not really in Superform level
@@rickyronny4019 Mania, Origins and Superstar confirms the true appearance of Super Tails and Knuckles, In Heroes they went just in Hyper Mode because of being surrounded by a Shield, they only were buffs to Super Sonic besides, the ST and SK code name doesn't neccesary means Super, it can mean Shield
This outstanding boss battle definitely deserves an *S Rank!!!!* Metal Overlord's new voice actor did an amazing job! Shadow the Hedgehog is the true ultimate lifeform, unlike that metallic and wicked insane faker!
Sad they couldn't get Ryan Drummond back for Metal Overlord. I like his Sonic but his Neo Metal Sonic was some of the best voice acting in Sonic history.
Its crazy to think back in heroes it took the whole squad to beat Overlord especially in their Super forms (Team Sonic) now we seeing shadow wiping him on his own like he's nothing. By that logic we could say shadows goten insanely stronger since then.
@gordontaylor2815 even so tho even Forces shadow would still be a leagues ahead of heroes,06,unleashed roster etc until Forces its kinda like in Dragonball new levels of power will always occur while the old ones will always be left in the dust like for example Vegeta in Dragon ball Super getting hundreds possibly thousands of times stronger than anything shown in Dragonball Z so Basically Super Vegeta>>anything in Z kinda the same thing with not only Shadow but Sonic aswell currently Sonic and Shadow>>>past Games
The only thing that disappoints me about this fight is that explosion of hitting the oil refinery doesn’t cause the entire facility to blow in that section and he explodes with just a puff of smoke >.
That could be handwaved away as Metal Overlord suffering the same fate as in Heroes - reverting back to Neo and then the "base" Metal Sonic form from taking too much damage (both of which would be too small to clearly see in the cutscene). In Heroes, Metal shortly after deactivated ("passed out") and was apparently given back to Eggman by Team Dark offscreen, but here in a flooded area with no one else in sight...
Not the real Metal Overlord without that ridiculously long transformation cutscene. Better yet, make the timer still go on while the cutscene is playing just to make subsequent playthroughs for S rank a living hell.
I'm guessing his dialogue is based more on how he was in the comics, because it felt noticeably off-character from the original in Sonic Heroes. Well, to me anyway.
@rickyronny4019 Off-character, not out of character. The stuff he says here is a little more aggressive and brutish than what he says in Sonic Heroes, and I'm not talking about his voice.
It's all about when to use Chaos Control at the right time to fling the red missiles back. Also, making sure you pretty much perfectly hit every piece of rubble you can. You need to get metal to half health before he does the tail swipe, otherwise, restart
Guys, i need to know be ause ive heard both. Is this meant to take place in a flooded Final Forteess or is this Metal Harbor? If its FF, why is it flooded? Thats not what happened in Heroes and im just confused.
It's the original concept for the final fortress supposedly, it was to fit with the leviathan motif Metal overlord has but they ended up making the level take place in the air in the end
@@Burning-Twilightits been so many years they change in voice is understandable, but still sounds weird lol I miss Adventure era Eggman that voice was magnificient
Metal Overlord in Shadow's campaign makes no sense, and he should have been replaced with Infinite instead. ...but this boss is so sick and my favorite in the entire game too, so I forgive it.
No, it does make sense. All the bosses in Shadow's campaign have some kind biological relationship to Shadow. Biolizard is the prototype of the Ultimate Lifeform Metal Overlord contains a copy of Shadow's bio-data, hence why he can use Chaos Control Mephiles has taken Shadow's form through Shadow's shadow Black Doom's blood is the same as Shadow's.
@zekromtrainer1222 That is true. Still, even in their battle, Metal Overlord is obsessed with Sonic. Infinite would have been more fitting, given his backstory.
@@Fadeddreams5 But then Shadow wouldn't know Infinite. This took before the events of Sonic Forces. Having a foe that talks like he knows Shadow while Shadow doesn't is already the situation of Mephiles! If Infinite were to be brought back to face Shadow it would be better at a time when he remembers him
Here's the Hard Mode Run as well.
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Metal Overlord calling shadow fake is kind of raw given he is a fake too. The fact he sees shadow as more fake then himself is interesting.
A big glass house doesn’t make it better.
Metal thinks he’s Sonic is also a fake and believes he himself is the real Sonic. The robot is literally in a self delusion and perhaps in an existential crisis.
What does this nigga mean raw?
Considering that Eggman made shadow androids looking so close to the original they could be passed off as one, I'm surprised he didn't ask for an upgrade. (Though he probably destroyed every last shadow android once they were activated to prove a point)
@@mikzpwnz_3199 I think Eggman made use of the Shadow Androids in the IDW comics. So they were still around post-Forces.
3:17 “As if I could be challenged by an imposter like YOU!!”
- Famous Last Words
The last words he will ever hear is "RIDER KICK!!!!!"
@@jumpman2916 glad I'm not the only one that thought was tapping into his inner kamen rider
@@supergenesisstation1991 yeah the Kamen riders I like most are fourze Ichigo Den-0 geats
Edit: forgot about rex
@@jumpman2916 or Build.
Bro is projecting so hard
0:34 Bowser ahh roar 😭🙏
Great now I can't unhear it 😂
As someone who's played Mario for a most of my life, I cam confirm it really does sound like Bowser's roar.
Ray Chase is the new Bowser😂
So long gay bowser 😂😂😂
Bowser but Cooler!
Love bowser by the way :]
Sonic Heroes was the first Sonic game I owned. Seeing Metal Overlord again and hearing them just straight-up use What I'm Made Of was just pure nostalgia. This fight was magical to me.
Heroes was my first Sonic game and I was most intrigued by Shadow and Metal Sonic, so this fight is just everything I could’ve hoped for.
Him calling Shadow a fake hedgehog is just brilliant. The voice isn’t as cool now but his lines of being driven clearly made by wanting to be more than just a copy of Sonic, him having Chaos Control, and him using the Chaos data he stole to cause the whirlpool are just perfect
Yeah sadly Sega is most likely never gonna get Ryan back to voice Metal or regular Sonic ever again. And because of that Metal just sounds more like a generic monster like villain vs having some levels of complexity to how he sounds.
@@Burning-TwilightBro he literally *is* a monster. Sonic even said so himself. Ray Spark killed it imo
@@justinanderson2631 He has layers of complexity though especially in his speech, and I just feel like this VA was just given the direction of him being some giant talking monster.
@@Burning-TwilightI think you just prefer Ryan's voice, there is nothing wrong with just saying "I prefer this voice for the character". From my perspective the new voice sounds fine.
Definitely appreciate the older songs being reused in this game.
I was hoping for stronger remixes, this and Mephiles's boss theme barely sound any different to the originals
@@aortaplatinum I feel that it’s still better than nothing.
@@aortaplatinumNo need to improve perfection buddy. If it’s already awesome, needs no changing, lest you ruin it.
@@anwd8646 Right, but pretty much every remix in Sonic Generations is even better than the original tracks. Tho I suppose Shadow Generations DID give us those horrendous Chaos Island dubstep remixes so maybe you're right 💀
@ I did think they sounded a little off, guess I could say they were archaic to me? Like, they’re not absolute garbage (it’s sonic franchise music after all, it’s almost impossible to stuff up) but it doesn’t sound right, especially given how by this point I can kinda remember the chaos island background tracks quite easily. To put short, don’t try to dubstep an orchestral piece.
1:53 I’m amused that they took the Biolizard’s old roar and gave it to Metal Overlord now.
Biolizard’s roar is also the same as Perfect Chaos’s
Seriously
@@pcb1175are you serious
Tbh I prefer metal overlord to have this roar it fits him a lot
He had the Biolizard pain roar in Sonic Heroes, too.
Would be nice to see Neo Metal for a split second before the boss but still awesome
Would be hilarious if they adapted back his overly long transformation scene.
It would be a waste of time
@@astraldog3359 It would be a cool visual or detail, many things that are implemented could be considered "waste of time" but them being in anyway is what makes a game so much better to look back to
@@PoloRossi Shadow: Oh God damnit he's transforming again isn't he... Might as well talk to Maria while he's transforming.
Was disappointed that the Supporting Me remix didn’t have its lyrics, but I’m glad they left What I’m Made Of untouched
Mostly? They touched up the mixing on the instruments and that was it.
What I like thematically about all of Shadow's Boss fights in this game is each one is connected to him not just in that he's fought or encountered them before, but that they share his DNA in a way (though Mephiles is a bit of a stretch)
Mephiles has the most direct link. He looks the way he does because of shadow.
It just lacked an Infinite fight
@astraldog3359 but then the game would never end
@@astraldog3359ikr, but then he would have already known him in Sonic Forces and that would mess up the writing
From needing all 12 characters plus the Chaos Emeralds in Sonic Heroes to defeat Metal Sonic, to Shadow being able to destroy him by himself and without a superform.
Yeah even with a power boost Shadow honestly should have struggled to even put a fight against him. But then again Generations combat system relies on players just throwing stuff per se at most of the bosses.
Yeah, the worst part was that you just spam random shit and wastes on the water to beat him, still love the fight tho
@@Burning-Twilightnot rlly. Shadow would’ve won regardless due to power creep, it’s why him and Sonic are able to beat opponents that formerly required them going Super
@@rickyronny4019 So you're saying that if present day Sonic were to be pit against foes like I don't know Dark Gaia he would be able to beat them in his base form alone?
@@Burning-Twilight possibly. Sonic in base form back in Unleashed was already powerful enough to damage Dark Gaia. And even if he couldn’t it don’t change the fact that he and Shadow beat characters that formerly required Super forms to win
I love Shadow and Metal Overlord trash talking to each other 😂
Sonic defeated Chaos, an entity that required Super form to fight.
Doom powered Shadow defeated Metal Overlord, which required 3 super forms to fight...
Doom Shadow's strength is ABSURD!!
One Superform and two hyper mode Characters*
Metal Overlord is indeed more powerful than Perfect Chaos but he was defeated by a Chaos Powers Frenzy of Team Sonic being Sonic the only one that really can do anything to Metal.
Tails and Knuckles were just an extra buff, not really in Superform level
@@genobreaker2572no. Tails and Knuckles went super, they just didn’t physically change in appearance like they did the classic games
@@rickyronny4019 Mania, Origins and Superstar confirms the true appearance of Super Tails and Knuckles, In Heroes they went just in Hyper Mode because of being surrounded by a Shield, they only were buffs to Super Sonic
besides, the ST and SK code name doesn't neccesary means Super, it can mean Shield
@@genobreaker2572 yeah says who? You? 😂
@@rickyronny4019 I'm not The one that believes The bullshit written in the Wiki
That thing is full of misurderstandings, lies and fake declarations
APPARENTLY METAL OVERLORD IS VOICED BY RAY CHASE?!?!?!?!?!
He did a decent job. Still wonder why they didn’t have Roger Craig Smith voice him considering he already took over for Omega and Abraham Towers
@@redstreak9430 True. But I'll gladly take Ray Chase in a Sonic game any day
So metal overlord is now the god of festivals and sound hashira tengen uzui. But where is his 3 wives?
@@supergenesisstation1991 Nah he's currently turning Shibuya into a giant crater
Hell nah they got the Persona 5 Subway Announcer in here
This outstanding boss battle definitely deserves an *S Rank!!!!* Metal Overlord's new voice actor did an amazing job! Shadow the Hedgehog is the true ultimate lifeform, unlike that metallic and wicked insane faker!
this S rank is SO strict, you have to get him to half health before he does the tail swipe thing or its impossible
It's not so hard once you get better at the timing of the ramp jumps, and throw as much debris as possible in the first portion 💛
Es muy fácil, es solo practicar más y se consigue
1:44 I completely forgot the red missiles doesn't hurt you while using chaos control, I was missing that extra damage to get the S rank
I like how he still has his cougar roar lol
Something I noticed this is kinda like in the 3ds version of sonic generations when sonic fought the Biolizard but he never actually fights it
Well... Shadow fought it as Metal Madness, I think it still counts
But still in a way he doesn’t actually fight him like in SA2 how sonic fought the finalhazard but not the biolizard
3:18 Was a missed opportunity to not call him a "faker"
Is it just me or just metal overlord sound like tom hardy's venom?
Glad someone else thought that lol
It's Ray Chase voicing him, apparently
@@Luchux177 i know that I'm saying ray's performance makes metal sound like tom hardy's venom
Sounds more like Bowser or Classic Toc-Man.
@@KasdenW1995 the roar is pretty bowser like but I still hear tom hardy's venom in the dialogue.
Sad they couldn't get Ryan Drummond back for Metal Overlord. I like his Sonic but his Neo Metal Sonic was some of the best voice acting in Sonic history.
Its crazy to think back in heroes it took the whole squad to beat Overlord especially in their Super forms (Team Sonic) now we seeing shadow wiping him on his own like he's nothing. By that logic we could say shadows goten insanely stronger since then.
Probably the "Venom Upgrades" helped with that too...
@gordontaylor2815 even so tho even Forces shadow would still be a leagues ahead of heroes,06,unleashed roster etc until Forces its kinda like in Dragonball new levels of power will always occur while the old ones will always be left in the dust like for example Vegeta in Dragon ball Super getting hundreds possibly thousands of times stronger than anything shown in Dragonball Z so
Basically Super Vegeta>>anything in Z kinda the same thing with not only Shadow but Sonic aswell currently Sonic and Shadow>>>past Games
How come no one is mentioning the Sonic 2 spin dash sounds in 3:06?
It's Sonic had the Biolizard as a boss even though Sonic never actually had a solo fight with the Biolizard and Metal Overlord was before Black Doom
this fight slaps so goddamn hard I swear
Metal Sonic is so cool, that he has two bosses in the game
Metal call shadow fake hedgehog is references to sonic and shadow first meet. Sonic call him same thing in sonic adventure 2
❤ my favorite villain is back!
Don't mess with the Ultimate Life Form.
The only thing that disappoints me about this fight is that explosion of hitting the oil refinery doesn’t cause the entire facility to blow in that section and he explodes with just a puff of smoke >.
That could be handwaved away as Metal Overlord suffering the same fate as in Heroes - reverting back to Neo and then the "base" Metal Sonic form from taking too much damage (both of which would be too small to clearly see in the cutscene). In Heroes, Metal shortly after deactivated ("passed out") and was apparently given back to Eggman by Team Dark offscreen, but here in a flooded area with no one else in sight...
Metal Overlord: I found you, faker!
Shadow: Not this shit again!
Is it just me or does Metal Overlord's Sound like a terrifying Bird cry
2:13 lol Shadow called Metal Sonic an idiot! very funny!
Kinda odd that they didn’t use his Sonic Heroes roar.
I'm going to give you a like cause this video has been helped me a lot :')
I needed a way to cut eight seconds of my time.
no one can beat me not you!!, not sonic!!, not anyone!!!!
godzilla: *bet*
Actually I would wanna see a fight between metal overlord and Godzilla
@@Gavin-l6l6 me too
Not the real Metal Overlord without that ridiculously long transformation cutscene. Better yet, make the timer still go on while the cutscene is playing just to make subsequent playthroughs for S rank a living hell.
I actually struggled with this boss the first time. The timing on his attacks is still weird to me.
He needed to transform for 5 minutes first
Does ps4 playing sonic x shadow generations in 60 fps or 30?
same question over here
@@naFarto i would like to know too
@@niconii3663 from what I heard it's 60 in sonic story and 30 in shadow
60 for Sonic, 30 for Shadow.
@@aeon87 NOOOOOOOO 😩😭😭😭 Now I need to buy this shitty console
I'm guessing his dialogue is based more on how he was in the comics, because it felt noticeably off-character from the original in Sonic Heroes. Well, to me anyway.
Out of character how?
@rickyronny4019 Off-character, not out of character. The stuff he says here is a little more aggressive and brutish than what he says in Sonic Heroes, and I'm not talking about his voice.
@@InfiniteFoes oh ok
How are dealing more damage. I’m on Pc doing the exact same thing and still not fast enough
It's all about when to use Chaos Control at the right time to fling the red missiles back. Also, making sure you pretty much perfectly hit every piece of rubble you can. You need to get metal to half health before he does the tail swipe, otherwise, restart
do you have to have digital deluxe to have the old music play
No. The song is a remaster.
No, that's the default music. They barely changed the song, which says a lot about What I'm Made Of.
the boss fight made me NUT
Guys, i need to know be ause ive heard both. Is this meant to take place in a flooded Final Forteess or is this Metal Harbor? If its FF, why is it flooded? Thats not what happened in Heroes and im just confused.
It's the original concept for the final fortress supposedly, it was to fit with the leviathan motif Metal overlord has but they ended up making the level take place in the air in the end
@Deivid_Dono explains why the AIRships look like aquatic animals.
3:25 RIDER...KICK
is it 30 or 60 fps
The video is at 30 fps, switch version is 30 fps, PS5/Xbox series is 60 fps, and PC is 122 FPS if your rig can handle it.
PS4 is also 60 fps I can tell
@@best_mate456 but I heard shadow story is in 30 :(((
@@naFarto that’s not what I see
I need to check the stats
Ok I use ps4 pro so I really can’t tell now
Sonic gens is 60 fps but don’t know shadow gens
I'm shit at this game bc this boss made me want to throw my controller lmao
I mean it's truth
Shadow is a fake Hedgehog
He just look like one
No Shadow was purposely designed to look like a hedgehog by Gerald, Metal is more of a fake because he is at his core still a machine.
1:52 is that the recycle Perfect Chaos roar?
Biolizard from 2. Chaos sounds more like an elephant
@@nitronstreetrider1192 and a Tiger Roar.
0:17
Loved the idea
Hated the execution
Whats with this dub in metal sonic?
It's because Sega cut ties with Ryan (who voiced Metal and did Sonic for many years)
@@Burning-Twilightits been so many years they change in voice is understandable, but still sounds weird lol
I miss Adventure era Eggman that voice was magnificient
Metal Overlord in Shadow's campaign makes no sense, and he should have been replaced with Infinite instead.
...but this boss is so sick and my favorite in the entire game too, so I forgive it.
No, it does make sense. All the bosses in Shadow's campaign have some kind biological relationship to Shadow.
Biolizard is the prototype of the Ultimate Lifeform
Metal Overlord contains a copy of Shadow's bio-data, hence why he can use Chaos Control
Mephiles has taken Shadow's form through Shadow's shadow
Black Doom's blood is the same as Shadow's.
@zekromtrainer1222 That is true. Still, even in their battle, Metal Overlord is obsessed with Sonic. Infinite would have been more fitting, given his backstory.
@@Fadeddreams5 But then Shadow wouldn't know Infinite. This took before the events of Sonic Forces. Having a foe that talks like he knows Shadow while Shadow doesn't is already the situation of Mephiles! If Infinite were to be brought back to face Shadow it would be better at a time when he remembers him