Do NOT Buy The 2024 Toyota Tacoma
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- I think buying the NEW 2024 Toyota Tacoma is a bad idea! This new Tacoma is packed with new features. Some are cool others not so much but each new feature has new technology behind it that can break over time.
I am sure this video will get some hate, that's okay. I personally would wait at least two years before buying a new Tacoma.
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After hearing from the chief engineer of this platform and knowing that the turbo 4 cylinder that’s going into this truck has been used worldwide by Toyota for nearly a decade now on the Hilux, I’m not all that concerned. Toyota generally knows what they’re doing. I’d take a chance on a new model Toyota any day over anything that Ford, GM or Stellantis put out there.
The Hilux has a 4cyl turbo but its not this. In my experience back home in Nicaragua we get the Hilux and it has 2 options a 2.7 and a 3.0 both turbo but Diesel no gas engines. Im excited to see this performance tho, i recently got a 23 Tundra and low key want the new Taco.
You are a traitor to the american brand. Ford and Chevy walks all over this. I'm from the south and these imports are junk
diesel turbo is different than gasoline/petrol, like night and day difference in terms of low-end torque.
I was told the hylander has had the 4 cylinder engine for a while now. So yes toyota knows what they are doing.
Lexus has the same motor as the new gen
Despite the title saying dont buy a 2024 tacoma i 100% plan to buy a 2024 tacoma.
right behind you was gonna trade in my 2018 for a 2023 last yr but then rumors of the 4th gen were getting around
We did 🎉
Traded my 19 for a 23😂😂😂 let’s goo
Just ordered mine! Purchased a Red 2024 TRD Sport Premium 4X4 Turbo Charged Engine with a lot of other add ons. Super pumped to get it in soon, around July/August just in time for my birthday!!! 🥳
How's your 2024 Toyota Chevy looking truck?
My issue with Tacoma is they always spread out the desirable features across different trims so you can't get exactly the truck you want. Whether it's the manual, a sunroof, 4x4, bed length, cab style...the only thing you get in every trim is a lack of head room in the rear seats.
Yeah if the trail hunter came with an access cab manual transmission it would be an instant buy for me. I do realize that’s not a desirable configuration for most though
That’s not true at all haha
@@theslyrylanthere is no such thing as a trail hunter
@@dug4895ummm you sure about that 😂
@theslyrylan I just wish they would offer the manual with the 6 foot bed. But like you said not as many people would be into stuff like that. So instead of producing them like the rest. They would become a special order type. That only get made when someone orders 1 like that. And they have to wait to have it built. Then it gets delivered to your choice of either your place or the dealership that ordered from since it's a special order model.
I disagree, I want the heated/cooled seats. The bigger display, better audio, auto tailgate. I think I'm gonna get the Limited with all the bells and whistles and comfortable ride.
I hope it works out good for you! Be sure to keep us updated on the experience!
Just keep in mind that the JBL audio isn't that good if you're picky about your sounds.
@@endlessnameless3996 it's bad sound system?
@Endless Nameless my 2010 Venza had a JBL system and it's by far the best I've ever heard in like 40 different vehicles I drove in. The surround sound was spectacular.
@@cabron247 thank you. So it's a good system
Agree with most of these points.
Just wanted to say that Toyota has had years of experience with hybrids in the Prius and I would def trust that powertrain.
Going to wait for the mid cycle refresh for them to do something different with that front bumper
It’s an entirely different hybrid system than the Prius. It’s the same system as in the hybrid tundra.
Idk what crack you been smoking but the prius isn't as reliable as you think and there a different between a plug in hybrid and what the new tacoma, which gets its energy from the a generator sandwich between the engine and transmission.
@@MWAclanGaming is that good or bad
What's wrong with the front bumper? If you mean that huge air damn at the bottom, it's easily removable.
The simplicity of the previous generations of Tacoma's were part of the charm.
You think these newer cars these days are going to be simple anymore? Lol no. Cars are loaded with features these days.
Agreed. Love the old-school throwback and simplicity of the 3rd gen. Will be keeping my 2021 taco
Agreed. I've owned a 2011 TRD Tacoma since new, 150,000 miles, 4L V6, never a single problem. Just routine maintenance. But that Trail Hunter is pretty cool. I'll be trading my 2011 in, but in 2025.
@@ronnie_5150 Damn man. I also have low miles. I have a 2015 Tacoma TRD Off Road 4x4 with 77k miles.
@@chrisginoc I love my 2011, and vowed I would not even look at buying a ‘24 if it didn’t have a V6 option, but that Trail Hunter is sweet :)
Get the base if you want simplicity, it’s that simple.
EXACTLY my thoughts! well explained, from a 93 mr2 turbo owner.. turbos do not last and the maintenance is a headache.
I completely agree with everything he said. With that being said I’m still buying one
Same 😂
😂😂😂 x2
That happens when you put additional 12k+ on your truck 21’ and 4th gen gets announced…
Toyota has more experience with turbos/hybrids than any other manufacturer, so I'm not really concerned about the drivetrain. That said, buying the initial release of a complete redesign from ANY manufacturer is just asking for trouble. 3rd gen Tacoma, new Tundra, new Broncos, etc. etc. Wait until year 2 at least, mid-cycle refresh would be best. I'm extremely happy with my 2015, last model year of the 2nd gens. Reliability perfected. Protect the frame and it should be bulletproof.
2015 brother here as well with 77k miles. Such simple and solid feeling trucks. Protect the frame from the road salts and you're good! They'll never make trucks like these again.
The bronco is badass looking but ford will NEVER work out the bugs. The whole truck is a giant bug sadly. It’s almost jeep level for repairs.
i got the 2023 and I'm glad I finally found a video that isn't all 100% for the new 24 because I literally thought the same thing about the new gadgets (more things to break).
I suspect you're 100% correct. The 'features' of the new truck are definitely not DIY maintanence friendly.
I test drove the regionals test/sample Trailhunter a few weeks ago when I was getting an oil change. It made me glad I picked up a 2023 SR5 Trail. I don’t want an 8 inch flatscreen or more stuff that can break. The draw of the Tacoma was the simplicity of the entire platform.
Why worry about the 8" touch screen breaking when the frame would rot out first?
I also picked up a trail edition last month because I wanted a new but more basic truck. No regrets :)
@@Hubscharber That crap was from many years ago with gen 2 Tacoma's, they were fixed via many recalls by replacing the frames that were rusted through. I don't see that happening ever again. I agree with this video, never buy a new first year Gen vehicle, they always have some issues to work out!
I was holding out for a new gen but when I saw the press release photos of the obnoxious size screen I went and bought a 19 sr with only 13k on it. Lol so happy I did. I wanted a new reliable low mileage truck but with the old school basic feel. Perfect balance of old school with new comfort.
I completely agree with you. I hate all the new crap they put in the trucks, it just adds to the cost and the potential problems all those little nitpicky electronics bring along. I’ll also never buy a hybrid as the short life of the battery completely determines the life of the truck. They sure don’t make them like they used to unfortunately.
Don't lie you like the options and will buy a hybrid
I agree with waiting a year or two but your idea of a $60-$70 Tacoma is absurd as your claim. The biggest mistake is your indoctrination with Ford, Dodge & Chevy. Toyota is above the American way of building automobiles that lasts and get good returns.
Yes those TRD PRO seats are way overboard, they could easily eliminate it & cut back the price about $1500 its the only unnecessary I can agree with. Sorry just my opinion as a former Toyota sales person who did factory tours and endless hours of product training.
right people forgetting the prices gotta be between 48k-56k the 3rd gen trd pro taco was 47kish and the 2024 zr2 bison is gonna b 48kish and the ranger raptor will start at 56k
Do you have on eyeliner and lipstick?
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Toyota is just one of the best, if not the best. This guy works for the competition 😂😂😂 🫶🏼
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I hope he does. It shows up better on camera, as all professional actors and news anchors know.
There’s a reason why I went with the new Pro-4X. Naturally aspirated V6 and no goofy gimmicks = longevity.
good choice
Good to hear a little negativity after being flooded with praise for the 2024. I really like the looks of it but I don’t care for gadgets or turbo engines. My 2022 TRD 4x4 Sport has 20,000 miles and should last me a long time.
2011 to 2013 4x4 Chevy Suburban or Tahoe is everything you’ll ever need. 4th generation all aluminum LS V8’s, 5 link rear suspensions Coilover front suspensions, 6 speed transmissions with a low first gear, inexpensive widely available parts, can carry everything inside, tow and sleep comfortably and go in a moments notice without exiting the vehicle at o’dark thirty while camping in grizzly bear Alaska. Taco’s are for eating not driving. Lol 😊
The new tacoma is an urban mall crawler. It's not for previous tacoma owners that are after a simple mid size truck that will last 2 decades or more. Just refer to the new Tundra and all their issues. They made a collant pipe plastic, it leaks within a year, and you have to lift the cab off the frame to replace it.
Best to just keep your old truck forever and replace things as they break, egnine, trans everything.
Exactly my thoughts.
Well old Tacoma owners are scaredy cats. Probably hated electric windows when they came out. Toyota wants to widen its customer base and go after the bigger market, who aren’t living in fear.
"You have to lift the cab off the frame to replace it." Well, umm, yeah...that's kinda how body-on-frame works, and something like 98% of trucks are just that.
I’m still sticking to my 1st gen. Simplicity is key for me
ur truck will outlast the 4th gen lol
I followed the new tundra like crazy and then was disappointed by the looks. Tacoma looks way better. BUT, like any new model, problems abound. Lol my 06 tacoma just turned 250k miles. I don't wanna even think about paying for a new one no matter how much I love it. It's old but still gets it done trouble free.
you are just saying that because you want to be first to get one
The updates to the 4th Gen Tacoma are exciting. But I agree, it will take a couple years to work out the bugs. Same thing happened when the 3rd gen came out.
Definitely going to need to wait!
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DJ XPLRS What were the permanent bugs on the early 3rd gens that warranty never fixed?
The transmission for one, it kept searching for what gear to be in, it was up and down shifting.
@@armyretired28 The famous gear searching. I remember guys complaining about it. It was also happening with people who lifted their trucks and those 3.5 liter 3rd Gen motors would struggle at times. That got fixed in the 2020+ models?
@@chrisginoc My '17 was never lifted but it did that until I traded it for the '21 model.
At first I thought this video was gonna try/attempt to convince me to try another brand (I would never) but I was wrong. This video is actually right. It’s probably smarter to wait for the 2025 model Tacoma. It should be almost perfect. Of course I’m not too excited about the new power train in it but it is what it is. I have faith in Toyota and always have. Never let me down. Great Video man. Thanks.
This is exactly why I have gotten so frustrated seeing the Tiktoks, youtube videos, etc where people list their gripes and complain about the Tacoma that consist of the lack of electronics and features. This is why those that buy them have them! The reliability of new vehicles without the nonsense attached that will break and fail. It really is disappointing that there are now no barebones, simple trucks left.
Those who complain about these things really miss what made 1st through 3rd gen trucks so great. You want rear A/C, Wifi, and force inducted engines? Great, pick up literally any other new vehicle on the road.
It's a sad day for simplistic rig lovers.
You’re talking about a Toyota son not a Audi
😂 you are 💯 % correct on that. But he is a young guy or new generation 😂 his not broken his learning 😂👍🏻
The tacoma is a great truck, super reliable, runs long miles. My wife has a 2013, and still running strong. The only complaint is the mileage, it's very poor. I have a 2021 Sierra 1500 Elevation X31 4x4 and gives up to 30 mpg in the highway. 22 city with the 3.0 Duramax.
I had a 2007 Tacoma and then again got a 2015 Tacoma which I have still. I hear you about the mpgs. But will the 2021 Sierra or what not have the potential to last as long as prior Tacomas? I'll take the lose in mpgs for a solid truck
@@chrisginoc I don't know yet, I have 19k miles now, no issues. Crossing my fingers the baby duramax will run with no issues for long miles.
70k for a mid size? Good luck toyota
TRD PRO for sure be close to 70k. Car prices have been insane after 2021. And also good luck finding one at MSRP, the markups are about to be legendary.
Ford dealer told me $15k markup on the Ranger Raptor I wanted to order. Dealer in FL added $10k of dealer junk to a '23 AT4X for a total of $72k 😂
Man I couldn't agree with you more. For years they have been adding more "crap" that can go wrong with cars that will frustrate and you and drain your wallet big time when something goes wrong! I bought a 2022 Tacoma and I'm overall happy with, but fear something can go sideways that I won't be able to fix.
Only reason I will buy the '24 is because it matches exactly with my Type R interior and I would feel right at home inside familiar aesthetics!
Totally agree with you man. Oh yeah. I picked up my 2020 sport 4x4 a couple months ago. I love it!!
I think the new gen Tacoma is meant for a very specific crowd. I love what my 3rd gen came with and I'm not worried about where people think it's lacking. I have no interest in looking into a 4th gen Tacoma. I'm also a fan of the "dated" appearance of the 3rd gen taco.
Thats right. Your money. Your choice, your happiness with what you want in a truck.
@@johnwhitneykokalis9990 Exactly. I'm sure Toyota will be highly successful with the 4th gen Tacoma just like they were with the 3rd gen. It's just not for me.
I prefer gen 1 with 5vzfe , e-locker and no computer BS
I'm not a fan that they are made in Mexico, and no longer in Japan.
@@chrisx5127 they were never made in Japan for USA market.
They were made in USA.
The 4Runner has always been made in Japan since 1984 to present. The vin starts with “J” on every single one.
Couldn't agree more. I bought my lightly used 2023 Tacoma TRD Offroad at auction this week. I trust it like I trusted the 2011 4runr it is replacing.
You are absolutely right. All mid sized, NOT compact trucks, are going to be expensive. I just bought the new Canyon and love it and paid less for it than msrp because I am a GM Retiree, but it was still expensive because all of the options are just as expensive on the mid size trucks as they are on the full size trucks. The sheet metals and raw materials are expensive because of the stamping and injection molding process is about the same costs on a mid sized truck as they are on a full size truck. As far as engines are concerned, the GM 2.7 was designed from its foundation to be a turbo and was engineered to have the strength of a diesel truck engine that runs on gasoline and even the cooling system doesn't rely on the engines RPMs but on an electrical system triggered and adjusted by thermostatic controlled, response. Big difference of engineering than taking an engine from a production bin and slapping a turbo on to it and hoping for the best. I say give Toyota a break, they know what they are doing and will make adjustments based on market determinations. Even as a GM Guy I can thank Toyota for forcing GM to make better mid sized trucks because of there competitive tenacity.
FINALLY someone mentioning the engine, I dont trust the new one. all they had to do is turbo the old motor and perfect the tuning, and upgrade the transmission. I dont want features, I want reliability.
I am absolutely waiting at least a year before considering taking a look at the 4th gen Tacoma. I am not a fan of the turbo 4, but with all the other improvements (seating position, infotainment, brakes, suspension, etc) it has over the 3rd gen, I can settle for it. However, I am not at all interested in any hybrid whatsoever.
The turbo keeps toyota going full electric its a loop hole through bidens stupid green new deal that he wants all cars to be electric but doing a turbo and hybrid setup it keeps toyota in that epa bubble. Plus toyota used to do turbos in the 80' and 90'S and there turbo cars were bullet peoof. So dont worry about the turbo toyota takes years to make sure they get it right before they produce it. Thats why toyota had the same turbo 4 in the lexus NX back in 2017 and it was bullet proof.
One thing you can't deny about the Tacoma is that they hold their value because they are highly desirable. As a matter of fact, I just sold my 2021 Tacoma with the SX package with 47,000 miles for $25,000, after having paid $30,000 for it back in January of 2021.
I disagree. I sold my tacoma and hated too but my back and legs would hurt after just 30 min. I drive my vehicle at least 3 to 5 hrs or more every weekend with the wife. Seating position killed it but I loved it other wise. Now it seems they kept the type of look and interior look but updated it and gave us power seats not on the floor. I have a deposit on a new 24 trd pro and plan on this being my last vehicle. Time it gets here next yr I'll be 61. Can't wait... had hard time deciding between trims. 1st had it on trail hunter then more I thought about it went to pro. I could care less about power tail gate bur oh well.
Did they tell you how much the tacoma Cost?
@@jbammorales5858
No
Not having a front locker was pretty annoying but more annoying is the TRD Pro and Trail Hunter motor is hybrid. Knowing those batteries will be bad by 10 years is annoying.
We are talking about Toyota here who leads in reliability and has had decades to perfect its hybrid power train. New turbo vehicles with modern twin scroll turbos don’t have the warm up cool down issues of the past. The gadgets and electronification of everything was necessary to compete with the Ranger and Colorado. Plus 465 torque. Enjoy your 3rd gen!
gonna trade in my 3rd gen asap the 2024 trd pro rolls out
I'm with you on the 24 Tacoma if I buy another vehicle it will have a V6 in like the tundra and I plan on keeping my 18 Tacoma it's almost paid off but thanks for your input I agree 💯%
Just bought 23 but man if I’m honest I would take the bugs for that 4th gen man! 🔥
100% agree they make trucks/cars to fancy look like an spaceship to many sharp corner nowadays..
Had a 94 Tacoma before kids. Now that they are on their own just got a 2016 TRD Off
Road with a cap 38,000 miles never driven in our Michigan winters. Will be my retirement rig and will be making solo trips to the Upper Peninsula and out west. Have enjoyed your videos.
I agree with the too much stuff that we don’t need that can break. I believe it’s planned obsolescence from the manufacturers. They want more stuff to break without saying it. They also want to charge you for features as standard equipment even though I don’t want it or need it. We are slaves in the system. We don’t choose we obey.
Great Video, I waited 3 years before purchasing my Taco, its a 2018. I agree, I dont need fancy electronics stuff, give me reliability over tech any day of the week.
While I completely agree on letting them fix the bugs (there were a few with the Tundra), I disagree with the concerns on the turbo. I have a 2020 Civic with a turbo & run basic gas through it, not premium, and don't have to let it warm up / cool down. I'll add - if the new Taco is going for anywhere close to $80k, that'd be ridiculous. Someone else mentioned it in the comments, the v6 is going to be a collector's item now & any of the 2023 (and prior) versions of it should hold phenomenal resale value.
If the newer turbos systems solved those concerns that would be awesome. My last one was a 2010 twin turbo bmw. Typically for longevity its best to let it warm up to let oil get up in it. And let it cool off before shutting the car down.
Warm up and cool down can be done while driving and should be as air is moving around the turbo while moving. Just stay out of boost for the first and last couple miles and life is good.
2020 is still pretty new to have issues. Usually turbos start having issues around 80-120k based on my Toyota tech guy.
You said do not buy, why you have one on the back?
Great video! I don’t agree with everything you’ve said, but I’m glad you said it. Specifically about the electronic tailgate. I disagree about the electric “moving parts”, as there are none. I do agree with allowing the 4th Gen to age a bit before purchase. -but the 4th Gen looks so damn good!!
In general I agree with you about never buying the first run of any car. There's always issues.
BUT, to question having a hybrid, a Toyota hybrid!
Let Toyota bullet-proof it? Do you realize that Toyota tests their vehicles in other markets for literally years? I probably will, and would have no reservations buying one of these. The additional features make this very intriguing. You’re way off base.
Agreed, the USA is always the last market for new vehicles to get released. These 4cyl turbos aren’t going to do well in the USA. The guy doing this video is correct about turbos warming up and cooling down, Americans are impatient people for the most part.
They’re not selling
I think the base level with the manual transmission will be the best one to get.
The big problem will be the price. I'd honestly be surprised if a mid-level 4th-gen comes in under 70k. That's just too much.
Price depends on which adds you make during the purchase! That's why there are sooo many configurations
why would they price it to compete with the tundra? it wouldnt make sense for them to out price the big truck with a mid size, if anything the trailhunter will be the same price as a TRD off road tundra like 55-60
The Tacomas wont hit 60k.
@@supervong1 the Dealers will lol
You realize that's capstone tundra price right? They will not be in the same price range as their fullsize.
Nice eyeliner dude. What brand is that ?
It's Estee Lauder, I bought it with the revenue I made from the butthurt Toyota fanboys watching this video.😉
Fortunately for me, I'm still sporting a 2006! When this old girl finally gives up I'll swap my wife's 2017 tacoma and put her in a new one! As of today I'm still thinking my 06 has another 10 year left in her!!
Cheers from Montana!
Hi Danny, you’ll have more than 10 years left on it. The 2004-2006 tundras and tacos are solid bullet proof. My Toyota tech guy did mention to make sure we change out the radiator and hoses (cooling components) every 120-150k miles. That’s about all it needs
I don't agree to wait that long. I have a 2018 tacoma and had no major issues with it. Just a few recalls that didn't effect the cars performance at all.
And the TRD pro is gonna start around 55k.
same me and my mother both got 3rd gen tacos and nothing dramatic just the 3rdbreak light seal and misc stuff , she has a 2017 and i got a 2018
Great points. Why fix what's not broke? Turbos are really not for trucks unless it's a diesel. Begging a little motor to do the work of a bigger 1 on a daily basis is asking for trouble.
One of the most demonstrative interior qualities is the lack of accessory attachment points. The dash is void of open spaces and the mega screen captures any remaining accessible real estate. I agree. I am going to stick with my 2020 OR.
The price, high interest rates, inflation, and the feeling the economy is going to tank at any time is what's keeping me from training in my 2017 TRD off-road.
I agree with you on the turbo. You need to baby it for it to last a little longer. Take note, "a little longer"
I just don't think the hybrid version will last as long nor have the same resale value. Will the hybrid batteries last like 100k, 200k, 300k miles? Yes, I see the comment, "The hybrid system in the Prius and Rav4 have been around for years." But that's a Prius...it's not hauling or towing or overlanding. Not as heavy or powering as much features and electronics.
Even though these drivetrain and powerplants are proven in other Toyota vehicles for years now, I agree with you on waiting a year or two just because they are being assembled into a new platform. If they were coming directly from Japan like the 4runner, I'd be less concerned. I just purchased a 23 4runner two months ago and a new Tundra 3 years ago for the same reasons. I don't want, or need, all those so called "improvements" and I want to be able to work on my own vehicle as much as possible. Hopefully I gambled correctly and won't have to do that very often anyway... My Tundra has had only one minor issue in the last 3 years; a wonky door hinge bushing 2 years ago which they fixed in 30 minutes. I can live with that after owning a Dodge truck for 15 years before that (constant headaches).
I already bought my Tacoma. But this video pretty much sums up why I jumped on a 2021 Tundra, and a 2023 Tacoma. I just don't need all the cool stuff and even after several years, they are still having problems with the 22+ Tundra lineup.
Many valid points. I’m hoping the turbo and electric motor will be fine though. Toyota has been doing both of these and doing them very well for many years. It isn’t exactly their first rodeo.
Agree on the tailgate button, that was the most unnecessary feature that will be sure to be a headache down the road.
Only time will tell!!
I bet it also has a manual release button
Iv watched 3 videos before this one I have to say your video is the most honest and straightforward. Thanks for sharing your point of view brother!
Agree, agree, agree. And I also think pricing will be insane. I would definitely wait and see on the new engine. Many people were not even fans of the Atkinson 3.5L V6. The older Tacomas had the best engine, the tried and true 1GR-FE 4L V6. Combine that with the new truck not being ready for 35’s without cutting and I don’t think Toyota hit a home run with this one. But time will tell.
damn it cant fit 35s? i wasnt sure but that hurts to hear
Yup, wait till the first owner takes all the bugs out, then buy a used one.
3rd Gen is the happy medium for the right balance of technology and longevity. The weakness is the TSS front sensor and stability control system. The 4th gen has electronic key fob, electronic parking brake, and worst of all - the turbo 4cyl or the hybrid 4 cyl. The suspension seats look sweet, but will come with a cost - watch and see the competitors come out on their trucks.
one thing i heard a chief engineer say in a video is the reason they knocked the power down on the manual transmission is they were getting some "crankshaft hammering" so if anyone wants a little more oomph out of their new turbocharged tacoma theyre immediately going to run into engine problems unless I misunderstood the CE
If you want more than 330hp out of a mid size truck, you're buying the wrong truck, right?
@@SansooIan the manual has 270
I agree 👍, people these days are more impressed by the bells and whistles of a vehicle instead of the reliability.
I love my 2019 tundra,
It might not half a flat screen t.v on the dashboard like the 2023,
But I can guarantee my truck will last longer to everyday wear and tear, and I won't have the electronic and turbo issue from these little engines there putting in these trucks,
That aren't even giving you that much better MPG.
Now if Toyota could do a true hybrid truck like the Prius that actually got you 30 to 40 MPG
I would be interested,
Otherwise I'm sticking with what works 😊👍
For people who don't like what I'm saying, I will wave 👋 at you when I drive by you while broke down on the side road 🛣️ 😉
Lol 😂😆😢
I needed this practical device. In my country these trucks are 3 times as expensive. So I need to be careful
Exactly, I kee getting asked if I'm trading in my 2020 for a 2024. Nope. I will wait til at least the 3rd year of the 4th gen. A lot of people are getting suckered into the hp/torque numbers of the new hybrid but I honestly just wanted the same V6 with a turbo or twin turbo, kind of like my old F150 3.5L Ecoboost I used to have before the Taco. I had great power and mpg balance while still enjoying a nice exhaust sound from the v6 turbo.
2020 Tacoma is a beauty!
What blows my mind is that even with the HP/TQ upgrade… the towing capacity went down!
Pretty absurd to add that much power and a new stronger frame, and not increase towing. Payload went up some, but not that significantly.
I agree, it's a big change for Toyota to go from n a to a 4 cylinder turbo. I've had first gen tacos and 2nd gen tacos and one third gen taco and I currently have a 5th gen 4runner. The 2nd gen tacos and my current 4runner are far and away the best Toyota's I've ever had. I think its because of the bullet proof 4L set up. I wish Toyota would bring back the 4L with more horse power and more tourqe.
IF i buy a 4th gen itll be the at least the second to last year in the generation. Im right there with yea. The first couple years of a new gen needs the kinks worked out. Especially a complete redesign. Great video. 👍👍
For sure! Thank you!
You’re absolutely right about everything. And prices for a mid size truck are so dumb. Give me a no frills, all gas basic ass Tacoma for $25k and I’ll build it the way I like without all the dumb stuff.
I agree with pretty much all of that. Especially the pricing. In my area, current trd pro tacomas are going for $75K without markup. I can see the new one going for over $100K once dealers and scalpers get their hands on them. It will probably take 3-4 years before they get mass produced enough to become affordable.
R u kidding me 75k I was told 53k in Arizona for a 2023 TRD pro where do you live?
And the 2024 Land Cruiser is going for mid 50s.😂😂😂. Guess I will get one of those?
I totally agree. You should wait at least a decade after a new model is released, or at least 5 years after a model refresh to make sure all the bugs are worked out before you buy a new truck. after that, i recommend leasing, maxing it out for overlanding and trading it in each time a new TRD Pro color is released.
Wait 5-10 years to buy a new or refreshed vehicle...that's absurd. It's not like the car companies just started making vehicles last year. Most have been around for longer than the most of us have been alive.
5-10 years? Are you serious?
@@cobyjones9519completely absurd lol
@@PNW_Sportbike_Life right people that own a 3rd gen taco since 2017 been dying for a 4th gen taco
I share your concerns. They should be coming out with V6 engines too. Who the heck wants a truck with only 4 cylinders? Turbo is just another thing that can go wrong besides putting a huge wear on the engine. Glad I kept my V8 Magnum Dakota.
I think those suspension seats are absolutely goofy. They're overly comolicated, have no effect where you use the car 95% of the time which is pavement, and take up so much space in the back that it makes the backrow almost useles to sit in.
2016 trd access cab 50k miles. Never broken down. Been a solid truck. Not spending 70k on a vehicle that cost the same as my house.
Just found your channel. I agree with you on everything you said, including how you described, idling after startup and cool down after parking to make sure the turbo doesn't burnout...that is what I have seen in other auto channels when talking about the new turbos for these small 4-cylinder engines. Even with the most diligent maintenance care...I'm really concerned at best, might get 100-120K miles. I'm really sad that Toyota is moving to all turbo+hybrid systems too. I'm interested in the new Toyota 4-Runner, but as you noted, it's going to have the same new engine and drivetrain...I'm wondering whether to invest in a current model year 4-Runner to wait, not sure what to do.
Hoping to get one eventually but I really want to see hvac for back seats shouldn’t be too much to ask for in 2024
Don't necessarily disagree, any new model vehicle will have some kinks to work out, but I have a few counter points.
1.) Toyota probably has more experience with hybrids than any other manufacturer. Their hybrid systems are proven and reliable.
2.) Most modern turbo vehicles don't require high octane fuel. I had a Kia Stinger GT2 that ran perfect on 87.
3.) As an aging man with a bad back, the suspension seats are extremely appealing to me 😂
I guess we'll soon see if your concerns are valid!
No way am I using premium gas for a everyday vehicle. Not with NY gas prices
You are an old soul .Most younger people are all excited about the new technology, but they don't understand what it is. You're right about the turbo and the new technology. If I were you I wouldn't care what anybody else says. Take care of your truck and keep it as long as you can.
The trd pro seats are way too techie....
Yea…it’s too over the top. Expensive and gimmicky. A poor and unessesary addition by Toyota. Also,the only color available is that creepy red color. A waste.
@@andrebarde9586That interior color looks so tacky, like a ricer car. Someone who thinks their car looks cool but only to him cause everyone else is clowning him.
Love the look ,but really do not want a Hybrid with the battery-too much tech for me
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your spot on buddy ... It's not about being negative , it's about being realistic
This is exactly why I hopped in a 23 OR when I did. I didn’t want to wait and get stuck with a 4 banger hybrid in a TRUCK, I understand going to a 4 cylinder in a crossover, but not a truck. Also, when it comes to the off-road oriented models, how many times can they be submerged in muddy water up to the doors before the electric motors have had enough? I’ll stick with my “outdated” V6 knowing that it’s gonna last me and not swarm me with electrical issues
Thanks for no bull honesty. Agree on major(most) points. 👍✌️
I may be lucky but I bought a 2005 and it has been and still is flawless, performance wise with just regular maintenance (298,000 miles). No leaks, doesn't consume oil. I'm thinking like this guy on the 2024's though. Even though I know Toyota is on top of things ,I want to see how those turbos work out.
Had an 81' and now a 2011, they go till the end.............this will never make it.........
I get what he’s concerned about but you don’t have to run premium on a four banger turbo and also they are no harder to work on any other car. You just have a turbo manifold on one side a few more sensors. Owned many Turbocharged cars and I’ve never had any issues doing my own repairs. Just because it’s turbo doesn’t mean you should be afraid of it. Just do the research by the right parts and do everything to spec.
I have never been much of a truck guy, but I'm considering a Tacoma. My first thought for the '24 was...
A 4 cylinder turbo in a truck? Nope. Maybe with a diesel, but not gas. Maybe the engine can give good power or speed, but I feel like it won't last 300k+ miles like the older ones.
I'll take a '21 with a V6, 6 speed manual.
Happy to be your Guinea pig… new truck is dope! It cost almost exactly the same as my gen 3 did, except it’s better 😂
Agree with every thing. People saying 3rd gen values will tank after the 4th gen comes out. If they're gonna price the new Tacoma at $60k I think just the opposite will happen. Very happy with my 2022 TRD OFF RD.
They said that about the tundra and the 21s went up 10 to 15k in price when the 22s finally rolled out. People were almost panicking to get the last of the V8s.
I agree that the price will be too expensive.....
turbos are only effective once you spin the engine up. that is going to be hard to do in an automatic.
They need to bring back the little trucks and ditch the mid-size.
This video made less frustrated buying the 23. I was so mad looking at the new interior and screen. I love it my TRD offroad still