The Post Office's Evil Robot?
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- Post Office Inquiry. Sam Stein asks Mandy Talbot if she's the Post Office's Evil Robot.
Sam Stein referred to Mandy Talbot, an in-house lawyer, as the ‘Post Office’s very own ”evil robot”, saying that she was supposed to be responsible for civil actions but ‘deliberately inserted herself in the wider dealings with Horizon cases’.
Well she certainly sounds like some sort of Automaton in her precise and deliberate answers to the Inquiry KC's and seems to have forgotten a lot of the information she was asked about.
Strange how so called "educated" people like her suffer amnesia on a regular basis. Selective amnesia of course.
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Just when you think the people giving evidence can't get any worse, Mandy Talbot!!!
She has been rehearsing that answer for months! She is a blatant liar!!! .
@@ralphplumb7027 karma soon ..
she adopts the usual lawyers tactic of "can't recall".
This could be the replacement to " no comment " when interviewed by our boys in blue.
For sure , lock her up ! That a hateful person !
Callous Thing
Truely worrying that a senior legal representative doesn't know who was instructing her.........
Alan Leighton, chairman of the Royal Mail, part of POL, is he up to no good now at Pizza Express?
Yes, you should know who to blame. She seems to have decided that she will blame an unnamed person, and that gets her off the hook. She also knows that if she does blame someone, then they will get them back in for evidence, and they wont remember telling her that.
Oh she does know. She doesn't want to say as it will drop her in it deeper. Vile human being.
your average local council contains many of the same sort, they typically sue council tax payers and council tenants and local traders without any personal risk. They are complete scum.
Every time you think you've seen the nadir of arrogance and selective memories another one takes the stand and exceeds it.
She thinks she is cleverer than she actually is. I hope they get to experience the justice system and get their just deserts.
@@Rohit-wc7go
Desserts.
They will never reach justice. The lawyers are the only winners in this Circus.
She should be charged with fraud and committing perjury to the Inquiry as she is blatantly lying to this Inquiry.
Working on it but she sponsors S Yorks police.
Her and all the other C.E.O etc types ruining this business.
@@kennethsimmons2029 Just what does that inference mean, as you sound much like Talbot ?
@kevinprivet5942 just means I pre date Lee Castleton but she was helped by S Yorks police corruption. The business model is no accident just never punished unless you can get 500 in a class action. Try not to be rude and asking questions is a far better way to learn.i
@kevinprivet5942 detective Alan Smart was one of many police co conspirators but with the crime implicating Lord Blunketts constituency and he and Alan Johnson informed from 1997:and 1999 it's hard to know who is running the police non investigation. Doc evidence now littering the internet FB Buskin Busman incase the police cover up proves instrumental in failing to prevent 900 custodials.There was no social media in 1999 and we only had Jill Dando and similar consumer outlets to compete with post office police collusion
Painful....Painful listening to yet another highly paid individual given lot's of power. All the responsibility but none of the accountability when it is being asked for. These people were responsible for putting innocent people in jail and destroying lives. And when it's comes to accountability....not a single one of them have an ounce of courage.
@@oghamstone5964 These witnesses will only start naming names when the real threat of jail time is looming.
they enjoyed every moment with tory blessing .
How is the conduct of these solicitors not investigated by the SRA on the grounds of bringing the law and their profession into disrepute?
I'll answer that, because the bar for misconduct is so high for a registered solicitor and they look after themselves, that they all walk and don't get investigated.
To quote Lis Truss, "it's a disgrace", (sorry about that guys )
An attribute shared by all bullies.
Another lying witch
She has no shame. vile woman.
Plenty of them have appeared from POL. Its a nest of vipers.
@@WEdwards-i4m We are always being told how women are under-represented in high management, and how unfair that is.
They seem to be pretty strongly represented among the subclass of managers who are cold-blooded, amoral, self-serving hacks with no obvious talents to justify their seniority.
(Plenty of evil men involved too, of course).
It must have been in the essential criteria when the got the jobs.
@@sueday4131 vipers are clever and cunning though, most of these idiots couldn't tie their own shoelaces without assistance!
Another Teflon witness with 'Selective memory loss'. Shameful individual.
She's taking a page out of Hillary Clinton's answers in her many questions put to her. "I can't recall. " was Hillary's consistent mantra.
@@leroyproud294bribing detective Alan Smart might be a game changer from 2003. The name of the police officer in a joint investigation with POSIS at St Johns Green post office in Kimberworth Rotherham in 2011 is a work in progress ....… Did she have more plod on the 390 million bribe pot ?
@@drinksafewater Teflon is exactly what I was thinking, too. Slippery lawyer answers..yikes
@@leroyproud294 At least when Ronald Raegan used the same defence, he wasn't lying. He really COULDN'T remember bless him. Hillary just had no leg to stand on. This woman in the video is doing the same as Hillary, outright lying.
Email's and phone record's dont lie 😂😂
Good grief....we have seen some truly odious people during this inquiry....one can only hope that some form of justice results from it.
Justice ? In the UK ? You jest, surely.
The justice system in the UK was set up by and functions on behalf of the odious people. No hope there for sure.
The higher up the greasy pole the more odious they are
@@MicheleLLOYD-bk2mtcorrect more than likely they will be rewarded with another highly paid job.its about timd people realised that the law only protects these people
It’s hard to be the worst person to appear at this enquiry - but she’s right up there.
She certainly challenges The Reverend Paula and Angela Humphrey Bogart for second place, but George Thomson is ahead of everyone else at present.
@dovetonsturdee7033 Helen Rose pretty unpleasant, Stephen Bradshaw was awful.
Lord Grabiner and Andrew Parons I really didn't like either.
It's hard to think of any of them who didn't come across poorly.
Lesley Sewell and Alwen Lyons probably were the only two I can think of.
This woman is despicable
@@Pmrace1960 Well that may as well have been in Welsh ! As much use as an ash tray on a motor bike.
@@PeteHill-j6b they all are despicable and world can see
Seeing how cold and arrogant she is here, one can only imagine how cruel and unsympathetic she was to her poor sub post master victims. What a hateful person, and one can only hope karma is swift and brutal now!
How many of those responsible will face a criminal trial and prison? The Post Office inquiry is theatre to appease the masses.
Well they won't. The system will get into gear and see that they don't.
Only two comments! Some of most important postings on RUclips and a justification for it's existence. It's the institutional existence of it all that's shocking.
By the way if you don't believe nefarious goings on continue; Alan Leighton chairman of Royal Mail of which POL was part when alot of this was going is now chairman of Pizza Express. He is overseeing a scheme where Pizza Express are transferring tips from hourly paid waiters to salaried managers Guardian 28 September 24 and Radio 4. Just that no one has linked him . Expect he'd say he doesn't know about that either!!
Yes exactly! The legal system representatives get paid. The only winners
0 not the right type of people to face courts .only the rich win. poor been priced out of justice for this reason.i even seen youtube getting in on the act to silence us.with p.o office credit cards shown as pop up .clear what youtube thinks of us.
“Hand on my heart” ….. like a lying toddler
Toddlers may lie about having eaten a cake but she's lying about destroying Heaven knows how many lives.
You wouldn’t trust her to deliver letters’ let alone work in a senior position at the Post Office 🏤
It’ll be interesting to see her give evidence like this while on the stand in court’ I can’t wait.
Her arrogance is monumental.
Arrogance coupled with a self righteous view that she is never wrong. Why not ask her if she believed the Postmasters were wrong!
I can easily imagine how awful it must be to work with or for this woman. She appears to be more concerned with achieving self-preservation and status than speaking simple facts clearly.
And married to her.
@@motherpat9779 this appalling crime and the people on both sides of right and wrong have experienced life changing issues and it’s people like this woman who are now finding the ‘chickens are coming home to roost’ as then saying goes… I hope truth and justice soon prevail.
Most of them are like that.
@@cassandratq9301 Yes, it’s so easy to pick up on that. I wonder if the Judge will. I think so.
Typical immoral dishonest corporate power-seeking careerist
Sir Wyn is absolutely brilliant.
No fool - he caught Alice Perkins lying about having read the Deloitte’s report.
This KC is superb. He sees the difference between a mouse and a RAT!
Rats are far above her and all like her in positions of power.
Put her in jail
Totally. Needs to be in there now
She has attended the enquiry being cock sure she was better than the KCs and she could work her way around them. How wrong she was?
What an arrogant witch and why is she looking down on her notes when she is giving an answer as if she has been given a written note as to what she should say. Why would she need to behave in this way? To hide something maybe? Guilt maybe?
To keep herself out of jail.
I have watched the inquiry for many months now and I am absolutely flabbergasted with regard to the amount of high office personnel employed by the post office who have amnesia or early onset dementia. This is an insult to the mistreated postmasters/mistresses who appear to have no memory loss whatsoever
I am astounded she was a principal lawyer but cannot remember key facts. Hope she's fired
She retired around 2016 if my memory serves me badly: Just about the time the realisation must have kicked what a twat she had been. I think she said she retired due to a family problem. I wonder if that was because she found out her family hated her rotten guts.
Ideal cell mate for Vennells
Lie upon Lie, Her moral compass is so corrupt that I would be amazed if she count find her way out of the building!
Yes I got bountiful amounts of money every month but hadn’t a feckin clue what was going on…so it wasn’t me that actually done anything wrong even if I was in charge…good god she is not of this world she was on another planet in another dimension when this happened….the bloody mind boggles!!..
How on Earth did it happen that such a band of vile, self-serving low-lifes, including the Board of Fujitsu, ever attain such power over honest, hard-working people, and then s..t on them.
There are many people in senior positions in corporations who are ruthless careerists who have no hesitation in crushing decent people and exploiting the general public for their own ends and their corporation's profits. Many are greedy dishonest crooks with no conscience who expect not to be brought to account. People with power as a whole, in corporations, politics, media, are not to be trusted.
They were specially selected
This woman's performance is worse than the awful Steven bradshaw
Bradshaw should be amongst those who are banged up. Vile.
she makes Bradshaw seem saintly by comparison. SHAME ON HER.
@@grahamnichols1416 they're all like eels....very slippery and of poor memory.
Bradshaw was even worse imho.
@@ftumschk I do think that the investigation team were as Nick Read said the "untouchables"
Fed up with all this theatre. Just hand all the documents to the CPS, charge em, lock em up and throw away the keys.
I fear there isn't sufficient prison accommodation for them all.
Well said
As an experienced accountant in multiple businesses over 30 years, the answers from Mandy Talbot, are evidence of Gross Misconduct. Surely there is sufficient evidence collectively and individually to arrest all of the POL team and hold them on remand. What many people may not know is that many public servants (Civil service, agencies, contractors, police, etc. are trained and rehearsed (as permitted) on how to prepare statements, give evidence, be cross-examined, it is a lucrative industry). The behaviours revealed and on display here are standard practice. The entire Civil Service, agencies, police, judiciary are corrupt, lying, perjuring, colluding, thugs. The barrister's questions could be far more carefully and incisively designed. There should be a battery of experts crawling all over this issue. A big question is from the beginning of the implemtation, how did Finance categorise and report the suspense account 'variances' in the financial statements each month? Given the material values involved and unalaysed what measures were taken by financial managers to investigate, report, etc. these and other Horizon issues. How did the audit handle it? What do their records state?
@@alanrogers9597 Will the CPS really do anything about it ???
The CPS will charge nobody and the evidence is there for all to see,from Seville to the Manchester people beating up the police at the airport.
She should be striped off everything including pension and bonuses
Correct.
Disgusting followed by disgusting. Police need to enforce the law and bring her in for questioning
These people have been totally incompetent and tone deaf with no moral compass. The only thing they are any good at was collecting the salary and bonuses.
And fending off questions from the Inquiry.
amazing how the speed of her answers speed up when the chair asks questions
Like with Hillsborough you just know not one person in charge of all this will ever be held to account.
If that’s true - and I hope it isn’t - this is all a complete waste of time and money.
@@GarySpicer-k3x It is true but it isn't a waste of money. It gives us all the opportunity to see just how corrupt these organisations are.
What a nasty piece off work this thing is i feel very angry,
Astonishing. There seems to be no one to accept any responsibility for anything.
They can't accept responsibility if they can't remember what they were doing or speaking to and none of them can. How they managed to work with such poor memories beats me.
This is unbelievable what an awful human.
I think back to that time in my own work and can clearly remember what sort of guidance or instruction came from whom. These people who repeatedly say that they can't remember seem collectively to be a unique group with some sort of brain damage, in my opinion.
One thing, among many, has surprised me during these hearings. No PO witness has been asked to define 'robust'. It's a such a meaningless word, usually used about wine, or cheese. I could say my Land Rover is robust. It breaks down every day, the heater's bust, but it's as robust as a carthorse, or a good Medoc. How did it gain, and then retain, such traction, such power? Anyone? I'd love to have it explained to me.
Robust in this case means that something is resistant to problems. For example in reference to a system, we would call it robust if it can continue to produce results with a number of individual failures. One system is the electricity system, which we hope will supply power to most people if a single generation unit fails.
@@Ken-er9cq so, in this case, it’s being used wrongly, or at least, figuratively. My point is, it’s so vague as to be meaningless in a legal sense. Your robust rear is my fat ass.
@@Ken-er9cq As I say, it is a meaningless word. Your robust rear is my fat bottom. There's no way to measure how robust something is. 'Reliable' invites the question, 'how reliable? 100 per cent?'. A burgundy can't be 100 or any other per cent robust. Robust is an unserious word.
POL liked that it was vague
@@cassandratq9301 you got that right.
'I followed the rules'...without question. Exactly how Orwell describes them in 1984.
Looking like most Post Office senior management are either liers, cheats and fraudsters or a combination of.
Most employees would have been disciplined and fired
They got bonuses
So, basically she is saying no one told her to be a b@#&h to the Horizon victims, but I didn’t tell myself either! She clearly enjoyed flexing her senior position but now seeks to deny any responsibility for her actions, what a surprise! I’m an experienced lawyer and have been nothing less than sickened by these various dishonest and cowardly PO lawyers.
Senior lawyer and can’t remember the name of her superiors,you wouldn’t even think about saying that knowing what a fool it makes you look,know wonder the PO is bent,I wonder what year the government decides to rectify this cock up and pay out to the people who’s lives they have ruined 🤬🤬
I love it when POL lawyers complain or comment about late disclosure…what goes around comes around, it was POL strategy to delay disclosure.
Haha how many times do they say I only recieved this on Tuesday.
......yes because PO only disclosed it a week ago.....
Another person promoted beyond their capabilities. Still on an enormous wage, got their job through the old pals act.
Trouble is they think they are to clever to outwit the lawyers
New old Nursery Rhymes;
Taffy was a Welshwoman
Taffy was a thief
Taffy came to the Horizon enquiry
And lied through her teeth.
@SamLowryDZ-015: Don't start spouting garbage like that. The population of Wales isn't responsible for this awful woman.
Congratulations.!
You have qualified for The National Eisteddfod of Wales 2025.
🤓Genius.
That is really good well done but True
@@JediBuddhist Offensive nonsense. It's 2024, for God's sake! Talbot is awful, but that's no excuse to denigrate Welsh people.
@@JeanRinger No, it isn't. It's having a go at Welsh people because of one awful woman.
Arrogant, unaccountable, unrepentant, indifferent to the cruelty she has overseen, contemptuous of those she has wronged. How the hell do these people look themselves in the mirror.
You assume that they have a reflection. Just how does the Reverend step inside a church??
Seems like she was allowed free reign with no senior guidance oversight or policy on the verasity of Horizon. She was in a position to know the full extent of the Horizon debarkle with knowledge of the defences of the sub postmaster. She had a duty to question Horizon, demand answers and cause a panic in the board room, regardless of the consequences to directors or herself. She could have stopped it years ago. She chose to continue with the fiasco. A case of management watching their own positions regardless of the innocent.
a heartless person saying 'hand on heart'....
A very cold fish , she be
I’ll put my hand on my heart and say I haven’t a clue where her pension documents and money have gone.
The PO still hasn't explained where all the money the subpostmasters were forced to cough up has gone.
@@lw3646it was taken and filtered towards the POs profit margins,fujitsu IT companies employees where accessing sub masters terminals and altering the daily figures put in at end of day and when all 550 of them called Horizon,they were each told they were the only case,post office new this and let it happen, a union rep went to fujitsu and saw people altering accounts and was told it was a training room,next day auditors went to his post office, closed it and jailed his wife then denied his visit,he luckily saved an email inviting him with date and time this is a massive cover up backed by the government, corruption right from the top and because of this,people committed suicide believing they were criminals,people went to jail put there by the post office,watch the series if you haven't already mr bates v the post office
Finding the same evil in local government.The post office scandal has opened our eyes to other organisations.thanks
These people have sold their soul to the devil.
Its amazing that the Post office employed so many crooked managers it was a massive click that have all continued not to answer questions honestly or complete for fear of prosecution after all the failings of this system shame on all of them
Take them to court!
This scandal is horrendous, everyone needs to read the book about this, the way the Post office, acted, was criminal and made those poor innocent sub postmasters lives a misery
And watch the series mr bates v the post office
Shameless evasiveness and managerial incompetence on an epic scale. Great work by the barrister.
Take her sim card out and reboot her as a shelf stacker for Tesco.
@@iandeumayne-jones1557 that’s an insult to shelf stackers, you should be ashamed.
Shelf stackers do not deserve being compared to this woman.
@@mr.d.8121agree 😂😂
Don’t think shelf stackers would welcome such a talentless dishonest arrogant nob like this
She wasn’t so much a conduit but more of a con artist
We keep hearing that the prime purpose of the Inquiry is not to blame individuals, but to make sure such events do not happen again. There is a simple way of ensuring they won’t happen again: go very hard after the individuals concerned. Funnily enough you will then find that others are less likely to repeat such ‘errors’ in the future.
Fancy asking a lawyer to explain their actions.
Were you in charge?
No
These documents all describe you as being in charge. Are they accurate?
Yes
So you were in charge!
No
“I think my clients would agree” - that one comment sums up exactly what everyone knows and thinks. It totally destroyed any credibility that she might have thought her evidence had.
7:52 thanks for confirming what is and is not logical for us all 😂
All those "errs" as she decided which lie to tell next.
If our prisons weren't already full, they certainly would be if justice was seen to be done after this ongoing fiasco 🤬
They all think they are above being caught out on their lies
They are
"'Commandant of Auschwitz'? Oh, that's just a job title that 'emerged'. Ich bin a mere conduit. It was nothing to do with me".
The depths of rotteness at the Post Office seems to know no bounds . Where did they find so many vile.inhuman individuals?
The woman has a slippery eel quality about her.
As ever it's the average working person who suffers, as the people at the top running this fiasco get away without even a slap on the wrist
We could easily substitute a Dalek for this women and got much the same result
@@777colin1 I think a Dalek would have shown more compassion,
These post office in-house lawyers are truly shocking!
Words fail me 😮
Is it fair to assume as she can’t remember who ordered her to attack sub post officers who questioned the horizon system then that it was her own decision to choose this line.
what a piece of work...her husband knows she lying...again...
The banality of evil. No one was ever responsible for anything (except of course collecting their substantial salaries)
Corrupt from top to bottom, what a disgraceful company 😑
She would have been very proud of herself when she was ruining honest people's lives and taking the money to do so. Now that the truth is out, there's a very prim, wasn't me, but I can't remember who it could have been if not me."
She has absolutely no regrets about the misery she created.
A bit like Adolf Eichmann. Wasn’t my doing. I was just following ‘orders’.. bulshit!
Convenient Amnesia
You couldn't make it up. Unbelievable. Absolutely Unbelievable. Let's hope the CPS bring these people to justice.
Perjury. Selective memory.
every answer she gave was calculated to be as vague as possible without incriminating herself or implicating anyone else.......for a lawyer who should have a good attention for detail and knowledge retention in her role as a lawyer....it is plain that she is covering up and being obstructive......
EVIL
She’s an actress
Is there enough places in our prison system for these odious creatures? Quote from Spike Milligan, "Where walks the human there walks corruption"
Surely there is correspondence or email evidence that told her to take a specific line. If not then she herself decided on that line.
Yet another automaton with no conscience and completely unable to admit being up to her neck in the corruption.Words cannot describe her.None of these people ever thought their victims might one day bite back.
she forms part of THE Establishment in PO, they have a knack of looking after their own,!!!!!! she WILL probably receive a knighthood for the obfuscation technique.
OMG she makes difficult listening.
What a liar. She would make a wonderful actress. A disgrace to all honest people!
Her acting isn’t that good because she’s not a good liar😅
It's no ones fault apparently. The largest miscarriage of justice and none can remember or it wasn't them.
This is the adult version of "a big boy did it and ran away ".
...'there my clients would agree...'...OUCH...
" Hannah Arendt On the Banality of Evil: “The sad truth is that most evil is done by people who never make up their minds to be good or evil” "
If ever a single phrase summed up this Talbot creature, I suggest that this is it.
Might have well as said NO COMENT , It certainly looks as if she is avoiding providing any ACTUAL information for the enquiry to use. Disgusting display
Mandy has a wonderful memory & convenient forgetfulness...
12:38 Wynn’s masterly “partial” intervention .. Meanwhile, in the circumstances, this woman has chosen a curious wardrobe appearance…
Like one of those world war 1 battleships painted with camouflage for deception.