alright i am AWARE that you can stun thorn i have added that correction and a few others in the description please check that before leaving the 20th comment saying you can still do it ty
The reason why cata 50 got a 10%scaling increase is because base cata 0 got a new 10% increase, before it was 0% when cata 0. Also i really like using most of the dungeon equipment even if its a slight dps decrease, its a massive ehp increase.
Didn't know about cata 0 getting an increase, my sources only told me about cata 50. also I get the more ehp comment (as long as ur putting 100 tunings or so on speed), but personally I consider ehp issues synonymous to skill issues xd
Wow! What an informative video! Keep making videos like this, as they are helpful to the community and greatly benefit your channel. For example, when you stated solo arch is better than dupe arch, I can tell people in party finder to hush it because they say dupe arch is better.
on the alpha they killed hype in Dungeons midas staff with glacial scythe ability or the spirit sceptre ability on it deals a lot more damage than hype in Dungeons and is also better outside
you can diaable the random black text in the item names and stuff theres a custom player name color setting in sbe i think that does it. Glad you're back!
fun fact fero works with aots swapping - i have no idea if aots swapping with a ft valk would be better than chim clay cuz idt fero hits scale with the class damage scaling but it's a way to make fero work without hoping for a patch
this isnt mentioned in the video, but dungeon stars changed! either a bug or not, but they no longer multiply with cata level. it used to be that stars would multiply the stats first, then comes cata level, but now it just adds the percent from stars and cata level onto eachother and multiplies that (wich is a nerf) you can confirm this info using the wiki, wich tells you the older info still
actually i did the math for item stats before the update and can confirm that they were additive before the update, dunno if they were multiplicative a long time ago tho
@@TheHolyChickenYT well idk about this very update to be fair, but i remember doing the math a bit back and it ended up being multiplicative. my bad though, ig it wasnt this update then. sorry!
The dragon priority that has been used most of the time for non split is Red > Orange > Blue > Purple > green, which is simply the prio before the update. The priority for double skip that is being used the most is Blue > Purple > Green > Red > Orange. This can also be visualised as going clockwise from blue around the map. Also, green is still arguably easier to skip than red, so parties may want to have res above green in prio. Although this is more effective, if doubleskip does become so consistent that it is being done in every party, I would think that it would remain as clockwise from blue to keep things more simple. Also one other meta change for bers is that they now use bouncy arrows. Also also, with the edrag changes, is it still better than antique drag for p5 as mage, I'm aware bers and arch still use plushie edrag.
Great video! One question related to mages in P5: what pet is better now for dps: edrag or remedies gdrag? I've heard mixed opinions on this, some stuck with an edrag (with a plushie for 100 attack speed) or remedies gdrag (because of chimera on claymore?)
Chaxz0 says edrag is better, I think most of my friends generally agree. I have not done the math personally so I cannot numerically attest to the validity of this claim, however I can say It felt the same either way in my testing.
When you are using the salvage be sure to check if you had js gotten an ice spray i accidentally salvaged mine with the auto salvage stuff and a sad day that was AND it was from f7
If the bug were fixed at what fatal tempo level would realistically ft valk be worth over ft term for bers cause I think multiple arrows over valk melee hit would be worth but I might be wrong on this
I just checked out what changed in sykblock for more than a 2 year break and i feel like i this guy taled from a different univerum to me. WTF HAPPEND TO THIS GAME.
thats probably fine for clear but its mildly suboptimal since you will need more speed tunings, aka less crit chance also no, implo belt is still the best for rcm
Hollychikn: so guys, bers is rly good you just need chim 5 claymore, fatal tempo valk, another chim 5 valk, ft term, duplex term gdrag, another gdrag, edrag and you are good. Also guys, dom 40 better for 1% dps and some speed so go get it, only few bill, dont lose another 2% damage on not cc tunungs. Mage meta the same, dom 40, mp 40, just avg 4b nothing special. Joke :P
my parties run bers ult for first spawn, not blue, but i think I'll note this in the description and include that blue drag is better for lower dps parties that may struggle on it
First off, amazing video but I just had 2 questions. Should I use strong or ferocious mana as an arch and should I use hardened or mana vampire as tank?
use half strong half fero as arch, iirc u need lvl 14 of each of them tank it doesn’t matter at all im going to use fero mana cuz fero works on lb so i don’t have to shoot as much in p4 but rn ideh a mana ench on goldor i think
shadow fury is still better than the felthorn because of the stupid amount of speed that it gives and it’s ability is very helpful. the speed you get with it will effect you more than an extra block of swing range
valid opinion, personally i dont notice the speed difference in clear because of aotv but I very much understand where you're coming from, ill make a note of it in the description
hm, my brain appears to not work, but idc, mage doesn't need to change equipment and that's all i needed to hear. i didn't waste a few bil of 10 10 dom mp pieces.... yet
Can u compare dps in persentage from archer, bers and lcm while everyone are pretty maxed out, is bers with 50% ult boost do more than arch with max lust for blood?
At the moment, bers max lfb with rag will outdps arch, however this is not important information to know given that bers is worse for solo skips given the amount of time lfb requires to charge up to max. There's a very tedious integral I could do to prove this but I think I'm too lazy because it's rather obvious from just looking at the numbers I already have At the moment mage outdps' like everything on withers but doesn't outdps arch on drags, and probably doesn't outdps bers either. However, mage dps is still absolutely crazy, ive seen upwards of 200m beams
Either you don't care aboute lower floors but true bers is better than arch type damage on m5 if you got a lcm due to kb being not as much so you can have 3-4 people dosing livid with a lcm you only really notice a difference if the mage is low cata or the bers players are high cata but 2s m5 is much easier now
My calculations were including master stars so not really (also mstars aren't as big a buff as ppl think so it really doesn't matter if u calculate with or without)
So I decided to watch this video to see how the meta shifted in equipment and to see if anything changed since I last played dungeons (got to m1 clear) and I have actually no idea what the hell half of this video is talking about so im confused, either way good video
Arch aggro in p4 kinda sucks because after mage hit necron like twice the mage will get aggro no matter what So for my parties mage aggro has been way more consistent for faster p4s I would like your thoughts on that
As mage it's much easier to hit necron when he's moving and not flying directly towards you. If the mage leaps to the arched one necron drops, this also means that the archer can immediately be dpsing necron while he's still flying from mid.
alright i am AWARE that you can stun thorn i have added that correction and a few others in the description please check that before leaving the 20th comment saying you can still do it ty
We should play Wynncraft
u can stun tho i did it yesterday
I love watching these videos as a cata 27 knowing i will literally never use this information in my life
I love watching this as a cata 13 knowing I will never in my life use this because I never do dungeons, I only farm melons and sugarcane.
@@ZTaylorGamingZ how do you find that fun
@@alex-jg9fv sometimes people dont feel like doing dungeons which requires a lot of your attention, and feel like clicking a button and hearing sounds
I love watching these videos as a cata 39 knowing I will literally never use this information in my life
@@aloab5129 bro is a toddler
The reason why cata 50 got a 10%scaling increase is because base cata 0 got a new 10% increase, before it was 0% when cata 0. Also i really like using most of the dungeon equipment even if its a slight dps decrease, its a massive ehp increase.
Didn't know about cata 0 getting an increase, my sources only told me about cata 50. also I get the more ehp comment (as long as ur putting 100 tunings or so on speed), but personally I consider ehp issues synonymous to skill issues xd
@@TheHolyChickenYT last statement is so real
@@TheHolyChickenYT can you do cata 20-50 build guides for each class?
m7 is in the best state its ever been in
i betta not catch u in the comments again or ill clap ur cheeks lil bro
thanks for dropping the equipment melee sheet
It was better when i could click 2 buttons and be in p3 :(
Me when loot
shoutout to u looting noths acc for no reason
Wow! What an informative video! Keep making videos like this, as they are helpful to the community and greatly benefit your channel. For example, when you stated solo arch is better than dupe arch, I can tell people in party finder to hush it because they say dupe arch is better.
I love how fast paste this video was, it was so entertaining 👁👄👁
Dang dude, seeing this makes me want to start all over again. Not sure I have the time anymore though. Good seeing you again TheHolyChickn.
This feels like a video my teacher would put on for us to watch and take notes to
Always appreciated your logical and research oriented approach to dungeon stuff. Found it both inspiring and useful. Keep it up!
Wooooo, HolyChickn is back! Interesting endgame dungeons content!
Holy such a crazy good, high efford and insanely useful video. Deserved my sub and like for sure and comment for the algorythm :D
amazing work with the dungeon equipment tables. kinda confirmed my suspicions, dungeon equipment OP
on the alpha they killed hype in Dungeons midas staff with glacial scythe ability or the spirit sceptre ability on it deals a lot more damage than hype in Dungeons and is also better outside
hype is still good for lcm since you cant do beem on midas staff but still
you can diaable the random black text in the item names and stuff theres a custom player name color setting in sbe i think that does it. Glad you're back!
i like it lol idfk why but still ty for the comment
flarezy is my favourite pride icon
The fact that the update was already over 6 months ago is crazy.
Thank you for your service
this video would make a victorian child’s brain combust
16:09
The working theory I have is that due to minecraft limitations, arrows can block melee hits
we think this is part of it but we're also fairly confident there's something else to it
fun fact fero works with aots swapping - i have no idea if aots swapping with a ft valk would be better than chim clay cuz idt fero hits scale with the class damage scaling but it's a way to make fero work without hoping for a patch
10:20
ah yes, finally, the shadowfurry
As someone who hasn’t ever played skyblock seriously this sounds like complete gibberish and I love it
you can still stun thorn with tribal spear from my knowledge (i was doing it yesterday)
this isnt mentioned in the video, but dungeon stars changed! either a bug or not, but they no longer multiply with cata level. it used to be that stars would multiply the stats first, then comes cata level, but now it just adds the percent from stars and cata level onto eachother and multiplies that (wich is a nerf) you can confirm this info using the wiki, wich tells you the older info still
actually i did the math for item stats before the update and can confirm that they were additive before the update, dunno if they were multiplicative a long time ago tho
@@TheHolyChickenYT well idk about this very update to be fair, but i remember doing the math a bit back and it ended up being multiplicative. my bad though, ig it wasnt this update then. sorry!
crimyboy is my favorite full legit mage
The dragon priority that has been used most of the time for non split is Red > Orange > Blue > Purple > green, which is simply the prio before the update. The priority for double skip that is being used the most is Blue > Purple > Green > Red > Orange. This can also be visualised as going clockwise from blue around the map. Also, green is still arguably easier to skip than red, so parties may want to have res above green in prio. Although this is more effective, if doubleskip does become so consistent that it is being done in every party, I would think that it would remain as clockwise from blue to keep things more simple.
Also one other meta change for bers is that they now use bouncy arrows.
Also also, with the edrag changes, is it still better than antique drag for p5 as mage, I'm aware bers and arch still use plushie edrag.
Hi first
@@icydroplethi icy
so true I think
i aint reading allat 💀
Fancy meeting you here
U forgot 1 thing spirit bow when fragged infact lowers the cooldown to .5s instead of. .8
4:26 you ah....you can still stun thorn with tribal spear or bone.....
noted
oh god im sorry, that sounded really rude, i didnt mean it to be rude im sorry lol
As someone who’s been a berz before this update made being a berz fun now
Great video! One question related to mages in P5: what pet is better now for dps: edrag or remedies gdrag? I've heard mixed opinions on this, some stuck with an edrag (with a plushie for 100 attack speed) or remedies gdrag (because of chimera on claymore?)
wr run used edrag with plushie so i would say that is better
i have seen people using autopet rules to rag axe with gdrag then swap to edrag for the boost they do it with fishing rod autopet rules
Chaxz0 says edrag is better, I think most of my friends generally agree. I have not done the math personally so I cannot numerically attest to the validity of this claim, however I can say It felt the same either way in my testing.
@@kennysthivensalazarcespede2658 yes so they can get max strength bonus for rag axe
When you are using the salvage be sure to check if you had js gotten an ice spray i accidentally salvaged mine with the auto salvage stuff and a sad day that was AND it was from f7
RIP
just add recom to it and it wont auto salvage it by accident
The new bers cone thing actually feels like kill aura
first channel i see talking about meta news and it's so interesting
i NEVER expected to see summation symbols in a hpsb video
I love how he questioned why we should sub at the end
I stopped playing Skyblock when I got c50 but I still listen to these clips to gain more info about SB updates. Btw, awesome video!
If the bug were fixed at what fatal tempo level would realistically ft valk be worth over ft term for bers cause I think multiple arrows over valk melee hit would be worth but I might be wrong on this
3, since ft term has almost no fero compared to ft valk but ft valk charges slower. however using sub ft5 valk is fairly impractical
That is skyblock mathematician fr
sorry to ask here but I can't seem to find it anywhere else, Is there a way to bind the explosive shot to shift + drop instead of ctrl + drop?
15h has seen all generations of dungeons in skyblock
Na he missed last summer’s dungeon lore
didnt know Ryzenn_ changed to _Ryzenn 😭
I DONT KNOW HWO TO SPELL IGNS
Bro did a hole Exel sheet holy moly
i swear mender fedora and crown had like 100+ defense base before update
blooming reforge for speed
you NEED more subs mah man, 🔥video!
Still waiting for the Jungle and Desert dungeons...
thank you arch45 pf player with 6 30 pb recommending me this video. more dungeon knowledge acquired.
4:17 the nerf just means phase skips are just less consistent, rip :(
Heavily underrated
holy chickn upload!
im happy :D
I am at cata 19, why am I watching this, it’s just making me want to get juju short bow even more
Honey wake up theholychicken uploaded!
ty for all the math and i really like your humor
unrelated but should i use fatal tempo 1 or soul eater 5 terminator for f7/m3/m5
Would be cool if bers becomes the best damage class in the game
Anyone else notice the among us at 0:20?
Epic video!!! Love your content.
IS THAT THE HOLY CHICKEN?!?!?!
when gloomlock shourt u promised in livestream
I like your funny words magic man
Has anyone else thought that the overhead is kinda like tf2’s übercharge?
another holy chicken banger
Can u also post ur damage testing spreadsheet, I am interested in all calculations
HE'S BACK!!!
I just checked out what changed in sykblock for more than a 2 year break and i feel like i this guy taled from a different univerum to me. WTF HAPPEND TO THIS GAME.
Is a dominance fortitude gauntlet ok? Mixed with another dom speed piece and then 2 dungeon.
also, is adaptive belt better than implosion for rcm?
thats probably fine for clear but its mildly suboptimal since you will need more speed tunings, aka less crit chance
also no, implo belt is still the best for rcm
Implosion belt 25% rcm damage basically if I am correct. But for lcm adaptive belt could be better
this man deserve a youtube rank
Insane video
Theholychickn upload!
Thank you, very cool!
me watching the m7 meta while being a cata 33 bers with 1b nw, knowing i'll never have enough money for all that
like where was this update before i quit
rip to bers admins just left it in the buggy state and will prob never fix
You probably won’t see or care abt this but how tf do you make ur game look so clean and vibrant?
wow that's so much information i'll never use because i don't do dungeons! great video though
Hollychikn: so guys, bers is rly good you just need chim 5 claymore, fatal tempo valk, another chim 5 valk, ft term, duplex term gdrag, another gdrag, edrag and you are good. Also guys, dom 40 better for 1% dps and some speed so go get it, only few bill, dont lose another 2% damage on not cc tunungs.
Mage meta the same, dom 40, mp 40, just avg 4b nothing special.
Joke :P
Me watching this video as a cata 0 who just started a brand new profile after getting ratted
maybe it would be good to mention that bers uses Ult on storm/goldor and Blue drag
my parties run bers ult for first spawn, not blue, but i think I'll note this in the description and include that blue drag is better for lower dps parties that may struggle on it
@@TheHolyChickenYT i think it depens on blessing, i mean with Power 15 for example, you dont even split, so Saving ult for blue is better imo
First off, amazing video but I just had 2 questions. Should I use strong or ferocious mana as an arch and should I use hardened or mana vampire as tank?
Ferocious mana as an archer, and as a tank I would say they are equal, so take hardened mana since it cheaper
use half strong half fero as arch, iirc u need lvl 14 of each of them
tank it doesn’t matter at all im going to use fero mana cuz fero works on lb so i don’t have to shoot as much in p4 but rn ideh a mana ench on goldor i think
shadow fury is still better than the felthorn because of the stupid amount of speed that it gives and it’s ability is very helpful. the speed you get with it will effect you more than an extra block of swing range
valid opinion, personally i dont notice the speed difference in clear because of aotv but I very much understand where you're coming from, ill make a note of it in the description
His back
hm, my brain appears to not work, but idc, mage doesn't need to change equipment and that's all i needed to hear. i didn't waste a few bil of 10 10 dom mp pieces.... yet
ty thefurrychicken for this video 🤓☝
So many cool new items I will never get to try out because nobody plays f2 and f3
Im pretty sure dropping and shift dropping class abilities bc i used to do it years ago
chickn please dont kick me off the art team.... thats just like failing art school.... you know what happened the last time someone failed art school
Can u compare dps in persentage from archer, bers and lcm while everyone are pretty maxed out, is bers with 50% ult boost do more than arch with max lust for blood?
At the moment, bers max lfb with rag will outdps arch, however this is not important information to know given that bers is worse for solo skips given the amount of time lfb requires to charge up to max. There's a very tedious integral I could do to prove this but I think I'm too lazy because it's rather obvious from just looking at the numbers I already have
At the moment mage outdps' like everything on withers but doesn't outdps arch on drags, and probably doesn't outdps bers either. However, mage dps is still absolutely crazy, ive seen upwards of 200m beams
Either you don't care aboute lower floors but true bers is better than arch type damage on m5 if you got a lcm due to kb being not as much so you can have 3-4 people dosing livid with a lcm you only really notice a difference if the mage is low cata or the bers players are high cata but 2s m5 is much easier now
If master stars are able to be used on equipment do you think 4/4 dungeon equipment will become best option?
My calculations were including master stars so not really (also mstars aren't as big a buff as ppl think so it really doesn't matter if u calculate with or without)
RYZ he’s still at it thought he quit
Sadan boss is so fast now, gg QoL
So I decided to watch this video to see how the meta shifted in equipment and to see if anything changed since I last played dungeons (got to m1 clear) and I have actually no idea what the hell half of this video is talking about so im confused, either way good video
Thorn stunning still works with tribal speer. 4:27
2:26 that should be ctrl+drop key in default settings
oh true i forgot what my own keybinds are
4:27 You can still stun Thorn with Spear or Bonemerang lol
ok they fixed it ill make a note rq
Arch aggro in p4 kinda sucks because after mage hit necron like twice the mage will get aggro no matter what
So for my parties mage aggro has been way more consistent for faster p4s
I would like your thoughts on that
As mage it's much easier to hit necron when he's moving and not flying directly towards you. If the mage leaps to the arched one necron drops, this also means that the archer can immediately be dpsing necron while he's still flying from mid.
i actually kinda agree i noticed the same thing, I'll put a note in the description
I talked to you in wynncraft for like 15 mins :0
that shouldve take u sm time and effort to make it
tysm that helped alot ❤
I love you holy chicken.
good skyblock video wtf