How to Overclock Your 7800X3D AMD Ryzen CPU
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2023
- How to Overclock Your 7800X3D
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Undervolting the x3d is like a basic 1st thing to do at this point
That also included undervolting the GPUs
Wait undervolt? Isn't that where you reduce its allowed max power consumption? I mean they're already low power consumption cpus?
@@noobfailgaming5703 yes undervolting, not limiting max power factor but using less voltage to power cpu n gpu
It's more efficient while achieving the same clocks on a gpu, or a higher one for the x3d chips since they boost to a comfortable range before they hit the desired temps
@@noobfailgaming5703 Enabling EXPO/XMP profiles tend to crank up the CPU voltages way more than necessary, and generating a lot of unneeded heat with it. Undervolting the CPU back to reasonable values can do wonders for your temps and on how much/long the CPU can boost before its algorithm decides the chip got too hot.
This is especially true for the 7000x3d CPUs due to their 3d cache lowering their ability to dissipate heat, as well as their lower Tjmax values (89 C instead of 95 C) that AMD sets as a safety measure due to said lower heat dissipation.
I’m slowly working my way down. Currently running 4950mhz with just a -15 offset. I’ll try -20 next since it’s been stable for over a week at this point.
Every CPU is different on what off set it can take. But technically a per core off set is the best approach. However, that’s extremely time consuming. I don’t blame anyone for using an all core off set. I would jump to -30 and start testing there. It’ll save you a bunch of time. These CPUs can usually go further than -20.
@@ErockOnTech YEAPP! See I initially started at -30 and she crashed on the first R23 run.
But at this point, tweaked a couple of little things and upgraded to a 280mm AIO. Now I'm running a solid -30 offset with a max temp of 83c. R23 and all the OCCT benchmarks and stability tests have been good to go man! I'm super happy with this CPU, it was a fat upgrade from my old R5 1600 AF haha
@@ChrisLaneification Awesome! That’s great!
I have a 670e Hero and a 7800x3d can I run expo 2 and set core ratio on AI overclock. With the 1602 bios just curios if it will make a noticeable diff
Really, I have mine at -30 and my rig runs like a charm !
Thanks for the tip! Improved my Cinebench around 450. 30 worked in Cinebench but almost immediately crashed in Prime95. Came back with 25 and completely stable. I may tune it in further to 26-29, but I’ll do that another day.
No GPU yet as I’m waiting on the 4070 Super, but will test in games down the line too. So far so good.
Well that didn’t take long! 26 is the best I could get.
BUMP THIS!
Change soc voltage to 1.15!!!
Yes the 7800x3d is safe to run at 1.25 of what the factory sets but it ALSO can run these settings you said with a lower total voltage as well! AMAAZING chip
you tried any other voltages ?
@@silfrido1768 I havent gone lower no.
@@boooyaaababy651 I feel like 1.15 makes the pixels too smooth
I have been running 1.15 for a couple of months now and can confirm it works perfectly fine for me. Great chip, despite my Asus troubles lol
Great video man,I just did what you did with your settings and my cpu now boosts slightly over 5 Ghz with negative 30 offset
Awesome! Share with someone who may need the help also! 😊 so happy it helped you! Thanks for the feedback.
I'm running a r7 5800x3d. I just moved my whole case to a brand new case with new AIO cooler. There was a problem though. My CPU was overheating with 360mm AIO comparing the old one 240mm AIO. After a few hours, I noticed that my bios settings were reset. So, I undervolted my CPU with the same values again. Now it's running at 65 °C under full load, it was running 90 °C
You NEED undervolting if you have the beast :D
Doing similar to my 7900x makes it boost to 5.7GHz and sustain 5.5GHz continiously.
thanks a lot man, I was going nuts here trying to understand why I was caped at 4.6 ghz in all cores instead of +4.8ghz like pretty much everybody else
Crazy 🤯
Omg you get a like and a sub thank you so much for the improved performance
I just did magnitude 20, got 5399 MHz on 5 cores, 5132 MHz on 3 cores! L3 Cashe was 5057 MHz. Max temp 69c, Min 48c. Wow, with a DeepCool AK620 Zero Dark cpu cooler! lol
Thanks for the information!
Thanks for watching!
Are these settings still the best settings you got so far?
Shorts! Yaaaaas
Haha 😂
I need to know what other settings go under the PBO settings...
So little known fact is that you can go lower on temps. 7000 series CPUs can have a offset up to 50. Also 5050MHz is the fused cap for the 7800x3d unfortunately AMD is limiting their lower end SKUs.
What you think about the ryzen master?
If you aren't too much into overclocking, PBO would work fine for you, but if it are, please consider manually overclocking..... The voltages AMD uses for some of the frequencies are just plain stupid most of the time, do not need 1.5v to run 4.8ghz single core....
Start with 15mV, 30 will not work for everybody
thats the point its quicker going from 30mv than 15 because if 30 doesn't 25 might and then you waste time by starting at 10 or 15MV when you end up at 25 anyway.
Don’t run neg 30 without proper testing unless you have the ability to set load line calibration. If your board has LLC then set it to a mid setting like performance and then set your neg to 30-40
Without LLC if you aren’t going to do proper stability testing you should just do negative 20.
This is well documented. Just under half can do negative 30 without LLC. Most can do negative 50 with LLC set to a mid setting.
My ocd cant handle the "optomizer" its optimizer. But thanks worked for me!
Yeah I know. That mistake was caught after the video was published. Sorry about that.
Nice, worked perfectly for me. Thanks for the vid!
Jesus. My first pc since 2002, am5, and im shocked, you need to tell people this, nor, you didnt even know it. Wow.
Does it make sense for BCLK freq to be slightly more expensive on boards?
Small problem here. My pc worked perfectly for about 2 weeks, but the very second I overclocked my 7800x3d from bios, whenever I go to turn the pc back on after powering off it just doesn’t boot. I have to hold the power button and it enters bios again. Why could this be? I tried to stay very conservative with my overclocking
I want to do this but I fear it will burn/break something.
I mean
Is it really worth it?
Is it really necessary?
Why does it come like that by default?
Should only pros do this?
-30 boosting to 4.930 sometimes the i see in hw info that the cpu cores are going up to 5.7 ghz tf
you can do this in ryzen master right?
But how you can’t actually change the voltage it only presets on my as rock b650 pro
My does an allcore boost in cinebench to 5ghz and 5050mhz on a load with 6 cores or less.
What do you use guys for testing stability ?
OCCT
so how do we do this? what app?
Can someone tell me where to go to do this? Is it an app I have to download or what?
What motherboard(s) should I consider that allow me to use PBO with 7800x3d?
X670e
@@jasonxerrofl
Out of the box mine has been hitting 5058mhz. I haven't even enabled PBO maybe I'm lucky in that regard
this with the bclk to 102 gives me a clock of 5350 mhz also disabled the igpu
What motherboard do you have?
Disable GPU cause MSI afterburner could no seeing my GPU, is a weird bug idk is still happen.
Mine goes to 50.50 ghz stock lol
Thanks man that was exactly what i was looking for
What about PPT and thermal throttle limit? Do I need to change this values too?
Thermal throttle limit 80c or 85c
Can not I just go into the bios and adjust the voltage down a bit?
And maybe just permanently set 5ghz?
Completely depends on your motherboard bios.
does the 7800x3d support core multiplier and core voltage adjustment (without any other settings)
Just got the CPU so I'm not an experl. It is not like intel CPUs of the past where you push voltage and multi as hight as you can. What he talks about is curve optimiser, you use this to push negative voltage offset as low as it can go. The lower you can go on voltage(depending on silicon lottery) the high your boost clocks. You do not have control over the multiplier directly , the CPU will boost as high as it can within power limits and the lower the voltage your cpu can take the more headroom there is.
This was a horrid idea. Followed these steps and PC wouldn't boot back up again until I reset CMOS.
The only issue with this video and I should have clarified better is that “-30” is CPU dependent. Some CPUs can handle it. Some cannot. Other than that, everything else is solid. You need to find your negative off set that works for you. It may be -25. It may be -20. It’s trial and error.
I got 5.050 ghz what you on about
Can i use these exact settings on my Ryzen 7 7800x3d?
No, every CPU is slightly differnt depending on luck of the drawn on silicon quaility. Negative 30 all core would be above average. You may get lucky but some can only do negative 15. 20 - 25 would be more typical. But no matter what you find stable for your system there is only a cople of frames difference in gaming so take the time to find the curve optimser that works for your cpu but don't be disipointed in the results.
would you suggest 7800x3d over a 13600K for 1440p gaming?
Both CPUs are great! But technically the 7800X3D is faster. So decide how much you want to spend and go from there I guess. I have a 7800X3D. I can recommend it.
@@ErockOnTech depends, i saw that the 7800x3d is a monster on 1080p. but performance drops a lot on 1440p can you eventually confirm that?
I don’t have a 13600k to compare it with. I did show off some 1440p and 4K numbers on my channel compared to the 5800X3D. The 7800X3D was a lot faster at 1080p. It’s in my before you buy AM5 video towards the end.
@@ErockOnTech okey 😉 i like your videos 👌🏽
@@nivea878 You are wrong
Same PBO and CO configuration but the temperatures in cinebench rising to 80/84° is normal? 🤔
Yes normal. Cinebench is 100% load on your CPU at all times. It’s not a real world scenario. It’s a worst case scenario. It’s why I hate synthetic benchmarks. They don’t mean much in the grand scheme of things. Are you a gamer? How are your temps while gaming? Are you a video editor? What are your temps while video editing? Those are the things that matter.
I am in a NR200 with the brand new Hyper 212. I am in push pull configuration and I am at 69-70 with -25 CO.
Are there downsides to this? Cuz nothing can be that good… right?
It’s how the architecture is designed to run. The downside is it’s time consuming to setup.
Doing this made my CPU go 50-100mhz slower lol. Also increased temperatures in Ryzen Master stress test from 80 to 84. Im not an overlcocking expert so I have no clue what does this do but for me it made things worse by a little bit.
Your temps and performance should only get better. I’ve done this many times. Everyone in my community does this as well. Maybe you applied something incorrectly? Or maybe the settings didn’t save? I’ve had that happen before.
@@ErockOnTech no idea, it works great on default tho not gonna fix what doesnt needs fixing. Thanks anyway
@@raidends123Fair enough.
Undervolting? It’s max power draw is 120 watts well gaming it’s usually less then half that with a 360 aio I’m in the 50s low 60s temp wise yall need better coolers and wouldn’t have to do all this which btw voids your warranty u spend 400 on a cpu but buy a 30 dollar air cooler is idiotic
Using curve optimizer does not void your warranty. It’s part of the architecture man. They expect you to use it along with PBO. But I know. You know best right? Where’s your channel? Let me go critique some videos.
Does this fix the temperature spikes from 40 to 65 when using chrome browser to watch youtube?
Did you fix this issue. Im having it currently
No, it is still like that, I think it is normal.
this happens to me too. idle temps around 40 then spikes to 60 sometimes
I have the 7800X3D with MSI X680E and I'm unable to get the EXPO running (changed different RAM Kit from Kingston to GSkill). Everytime I set it (both to 1 or 2) the system doesn't boot and I need to reset the CMOS. It's a mess and I don't know if the problem is the Mobo or not. Should be great to have a sample video with all correct steps to do this ;-) Thanks a lot! Bye, Max
Could you try taking the timeing from the RAM kit and entering them manually?
Is the ram kit on your motherboard QVL list? You might be hooped if not lol
@@guccipucci69420 Hi! Yes it is in the list
@@a320wolf have you tried manually overclocking your ram? And what speed is your ram? I haven't had any issues with expo on my 3d but I have a b650e
What temperature does the CPU reach with these configurations?
That depends on your CPU cooler, air flow in the case, and the game you play. My CPU is usually in the 60s on a 240 AIO.
@@ErockOnTech Thanks for the answer man!
@@maxwallestain9037 no problem!
@@ErockOnTechif I got good airflow and a 360mm aio, do I still need to undervolt my cpu
@@Splash029 Yes, if you can. Because AMD CPUs have strict power limits and if you undervolt at any temperature it enables the CPU to boost higher without hitting power limit .
No difference in performance for me
I would say it's even lower when undervolting-15
I cant get 6000mhz or above speed when i use 4x16 ram 😔 Please help
Bios update ?
Not all Zen4 CPU’s will be able to run a negative 30 offset. You can always just turn on Eco mode and have a cooler chip
You are correct about the -30. It’s a short. Only so much information can said. An offset lowers temps without lowering performance.
@@ErockOnTech Totally understand ur point about being a short. Your content is great and your honesty is much appreciated.
@@Kapono5150 I appreciate that! Thank you!
They claim 5 GHz as the max frequency by single core, not multi-core. Not really worth it to play around with OC settings for almost unnoticeable results, at the potential (low, but possible) cost of other many risks (stability, damage, guarantee...).
Nah, it's definitely worth it 👍
Mine was 5050 out the box. I don't mess with PBO ever, just the ram. I do all my optimizations via process lasso and configuring windows
Yeah mine is 5050mhz too but I still run -20 all core simply for better temps
i just did a waterloop but ill stilll have to do that more than likely, they still get spicy!
@@Slushkin yeah they really do
Why won’t my settings stick?
Did u press apply?
I9 10900kf is my cpu of choice 😂
whats funny , thats a brute force cpu . awesome gaming cpu
overclocking 10900k cpu is pointless , because it runs hot , an munchers through cycles anyway , one of intels moments 10th gen an 10900
Mine runs 27c at idle and 47 oc while gaming
The Intel 10900k is a beast overclocker, but is so power inefficient it thermal throttles at the drop of a hat! Won't happen with the AMD 7800X3D!
@@keganjackson7609 You mean the AMD 7800X3D under a gaming load right? There is no Intel 10900k on the planet that will run 47° Celsius temperatures stable gaming under load, at 1440p or above.
When you say yours did not boost to 5ghz, do you mean all core or did not even 1 core boost to 5Ghz?
Not one core.
@@ErockOnTech Wow, wonder what would cause that since mine was boosting single cores to 5ghz and doing about 4.85Ghz all core before tuning on PBO. Mine also crashes at -30 in some applications so I don't have a great chip.
@@Shen3002 My chip can do -35 all core all day. Yeah the silicon lottery is wild.
I got the same cpu and i cant enable xmp cuz of blue screen plz help.
What is the speed of the ram?
@@ErockOnTech original is 6000mhz, but idk why it's running on 4800mhz when I checked task manager
@@K1M01That means original is 4800MHz. 6000 is what the RAM kit is rated for. So if you’re not getting 6000, then that could mean you didn’t save your bios settings for 6000. Or it could mean windows is incorrectly reporting the speed. Windows 11 is garbage unfortunately.
@@ErockOnTech also should I update bios becuz my bios is 1 year old ( msi mag x670e tomahawk motherboard )
but I am scared to update bios
@@ErockOnTech yea windows 11
Optomizer lol
Lol what about it
@@ErockOnTech There's a typo, it's called optimizer
You changed these settings using ryzen master?
From bios settings
This just makes my system crash
then try 25 mv
It didnt help ypu on that last kill🤣
Math is white.
I’ve got 7800x3d. Expo profile enabled. My cpu boosting to 5000mhz, and with 3070 i have 140 and more fps in COD MW. Much better than previous cpu, 3900xt. But in apex legends i have less fps then before. I dont know why.
It could be possible that Apex Legends is missing some optimizations for the latest chips. I lost performance in Doom Eternal when I upgraded to the 7800X3D. Are your chip set drivers up to date.
@@ErockOnTech Yes, my chip set drivers are up to date. I set up everything in windows to performance mode. Thank you for your answer anyway.
sweet i have a 3900xt and was planning on upgrading to this cpu. would you recommend getting a 7900x3d to keep the 12 cores or did you not notice a big difference in productivity with the 4 less cores?
Turn on apo and turn on pbo. You good to go
Where do I have to go to do this?
I dont understand how my 7600x does 5.5ghz regularly and these “high end” computers can’t anyone know why?
These are 3D chips... You're running a basic 7600x
@@KommonCents_ that doesnt answer my question i am uneducated and trying to he educated so what is the reason
@@KommonCents_ so are you gonna explain it cause i would really like to know lol
@@GloomyOrange05 That’s because x3d chips have 3d cache meaning they only need a small clock speed to be powerful
And the 7600x doesn’t have 3d cache so it needs a higher clock speed
Mine goes go to 5ghz sometimes
Use these settings and get it there all the time.
Best settings. Full video. ruclips.net/video/0kX4kGi77KA/видео.html
@@ErockOnTech is this safe to run as mine is at 4.8 i dont wanna dfamage anything and i havent oc a cpu before
@@ZFGFZDGDFG Yes it is safe. AMD’s marketing says up to 5 GHz.
@@ZFGFZDGDFG You're not increasing the voltage, all it does is tell it to run faster using the same voltage curve.