Why have more than 500 Belgian Catholics asked to be “de-baptized” after the Pope's trip?

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  • Опубликовано: 4 ноя 2024

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  • @James-fk2ki
    @James-fk2ki 4 дня назад +196

    Now this is what I call courage. The Pope being the Pope. Bravo Papa Francis. Viva Papa

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  • @rayre3617
    @rayre3617 4 дня назад +95

    These protesters don’t understand baptism and Who it is that they are rejecting.

    • @SegundaEtapa-r8w
      @SegundaEtapa-r8w 4 дня назад

      The Catholic Church people doesn’t let people understand anything in the first place.
      How can people understand baptism if the church allows infant baptism and, not to mention, catholic families baptize their 12 year olds even if the kids don’t care about it?

    • @beenbeatenbybishops5845
      @beenbeatenbybishops5845 2 дня назад +1

      Or, they do. Perhaps it would be a charitable act to pray for their souls.

  • @HolyKhaaaaan
    @HolyKhaaaaan 4 дня назад +102

    This is a hard saying. And they left. And Jesus said to his apostles who remained, "will you also leave?"

    • @RedRiverMan
      @RedRiverMan 4 дня назад +16

      and Peter replied, "Where would we go Lord? You have the words of everlasting life." Amen. With all my issues with our Church I know there is nowhere else to go.

    • @deutschermichel5807
      @deutschermichel5807 3 дня назад +3

      ​@@RedRiverManGod bless you

    • @agatatres9076
      @agatatres9076 3 дня назад +2

      Quo Vadis

    • @whatsup3270
      @whatsup3270 3 дня назад +1

      That wasn't about the Church and its keys.

    • @busrifin4142
      @busrifin4142 3 дня назад +1

      John 6
      65 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning, who they were that did not believe, and who he was, that would betray him.
      66 And he said: Therefore did I say to you, that no man can come to me, unless it be given him by my Father.
      67 After this many of his disciples went back; and walked no more with him.
      68 Then Jesus said to the twelve: Will you also go away?
      69 And Simon Peter answered him: Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.
      70 And we have believed and have known, that thou art the Christ, the Son of God.

  • @mjplate1311
    @mjplate1311 4 дня назад +134

    Unfortunately, they didn't hear what they wanted to hear. And they think THEY know better or more? It's sad that these people choose ideology over Truth, over God. May God help these people find their way back to God. The Church is never going to bow down to man-made ideologies, because the Church was instituted by God. This is why we need to bring Catholic education back into schools, and this was at a Catholic university. Total insanity.

    • @nicholas4727
      @nicholas4727 4 дня назад

      I don't understand if they believe in all of these things so much why don't they just start up their own church? It's clear that their intention is to destroy the true church from within.

    • @ilonkastille2993
      @ilonkastille2993 3 дня назад

      They are ignorant. That is all!

  • @firefly3196
    @firefly3196 4 дня назад +341

    So they weren’t Catholic in the first place.

    • @loveisall5520
      @loveisall5520 4 дня назад

      I so agree. These people whose faith is built on shifting sands want the Church to be the same. Wrong. This, unfortunately, is a demonstration of how Europe has strayed from its Catholic roots. Let them leave.

    • @kp9894
      @kp9894 4 дня назад +42

      They want a type of Cafeteria Catholicism that only appeals to their ideologies and whims, which is sad and arrogant of them at the same time. Obviously the Church wouldn't be pressured by them because we have and knew the truth all along. No evil shall prevail in the end no matter how popular it is.

    • @SecureInMyHead
      @SecureInMyHead 4 дня назад +6

      Or the pope isn’t.

    • @donshotland2503
      @donshotland2503 4 дня назад

      Once Catholic , Always Catholic
      Good or Bad
      Their lack of Faith makes them rebellious.

    • @HolyKhaaaaan
      @HolyKhaaaaan 4 дня назад +22

      They're baptized Catholics forever. They are simply choosing to reject the gift that was given them.

  • @richarddunn9286
    @richarddunn9286 4 дня назад +30

    All Catholics take a vow to submit to the Church's teaching. I can't imagine doing that and then calling a fundamental teaching from that same Church "deplorable."

  • @QuickWorkouts
    @QuickWorkouts 4 дня назад +93

    I live in Belgium, the church here is wandering away from Christ, with doctrines that appetite sin, told by bishops and priests who are progressive. Please pray for our country.

    • @isaiah3872
      @isaiah3872 4 дня назад +5

      Hi brother/sister, it's nice to come across a presumably practising Belgian Catholic, since stats often describe your nation as barely observant Christians. If you don't mind, I have a few questions about the Church in Belgium:
      1) Are there many orthodox (doctrinally sound) Catholic priests outside of traditionalist circles?
      2) Is there any real effort by the dioceses to evangelize immigrant groups & re-evangelize the unaffiliated?
      3) Is Wallonia more/less religious than Flanders?
      4) What's the state of religious education/catechism at parishes, for adults?
      5) Are African (e.g. Rwandan & Congolese) Catholic immigrants involved in the life of the Church, at least in Brussels?
      6) How do you cultivate your own spiritual life in light of all these issues? Do you have a small group of parishioners or friends for support on your journey of faith?

    • @deutschermichel5807
      @deutschermichel5807 3 дня назад

      This unfaithfulness in the Belgian clergy only reveals the wickedness of the Belgian nation

    • @ShamrockRagEll
      @ShamrockRagEll 3 дня назад +5

      Same in Germany. The Catholic Church here feels Protestant at best, like a political party at worst. I feel with you.

    • @deutschermichel5807
      @deutschermichel5807 3 дня назад +3

      @ShamrockRagEll übergeneralisiere nicht den ganzen Klerus. Die Hoffnung aufgeben ist eine Sünde

    • @ShamrockRagEll
      @ShamrockRagEll 3 дня назад +3

      @@deutschermichel5807 ich habe nicht aufgegeben und bete regelmäßig für eine wirklich katholische Kirche in Deutschland.

  • @ChristosYpiretis
    @ChristosYpiretis 4 дня назад +22

    As an Orthodox Christian, I actually agree with francis for once.

    • @Zach-mw5so
      @Zach-mw5so 3 дня назад +2

      I’m not the biggest fan of Francis as a Catholic either, but good gracious, he didn’t say anything controversial. Men can’t be women is controversial now apparently

  • @thunderhawk5232
    @thunderhawk5232 4 дня назад +179

    The arrogance of them

  • @eduardomarquesf
    @eduardomarquesf 4 дня назад +82

    The world has to follow the Church not the Church to follow the world!

    • @Keith-qj5dp
      @Keith-qj5dp 4 дня назад

      Well it looks like you are wrong. Sodomites are in the church, baby killers are in the church, sodomite orgies are in the church. Paganism and worshiping false gods is in the church
      Maybe the world is following the church

    • @SegundaEtapa-r8w
      @SegundaEtapa-r8w 4 дня назад

      The world doesn’t follow anything. That attitude of “the world should do our bidding” is straight up awful.

    • @eduardomarquesf
      @eduardomarquesf 4 дня назад +1

      Oh yeah, the World is doing well. A great place to live.

    • @yimjong
      @yimjong 3 дня назад +2

      Not any church but Christ only

  • @Pluviophile218
    @Pluviophile218 3 дня назад +24

    Not very often I agree with this pope, but he is right on this one. The Church cannot change to suit people's whims.

  • @ChaChaDancin
    @ChaChaDancin 4 дня назад +46

    Requesting apostasy because they didn’t like something the Pope said? So sad for them.

    • @SegundaEtapa-r8w
      @SegundaEtapa-r8w 4 дня назад +1

      If you want those people to stay what would you do for them?
      You’re acting terribly with that selfish and indifferent attitude of others.
      Wouldn’t you agree that maybe the group they were supposed to have support from is making millions leave?

    • @ChaChaDancin
      @ChaChaDancin 4 дня назад +6

      @@SegundaEtapa-r8w indifferent? I expressed sadness for them.
      The Church isn’t about doing things for people. It’s about worshipping God and drawing near to Him. And that’s what these misled people, and you apparently, have missed.
      It’s a fairly big miss.

    • @SegundaEtapa-r8w
      @SegundaEtapa-r8w 4 дня назад

      @@ChaChaDancin yeah, I’m sure you felt really sad for them with that contemptuously sarcastic comment.
      But seriously, do you really think what you said will draw anyone near God?
      Aren’t you God’s church? If so, then why are you treating these people indifferently over some mere differences?
      If you are demanding that these people follow the God’s law to perfection, then why do you not do it yourself?

    • @--Mar
      @--Mar 3 дня назад +3

      ​@@SegundaEtapa-r8wIt's not for an individual to be responsible for everybody else's state of soul. That's playing the Saviour, which is God's role. Look after your own soul first by loving God, and then love your neighbour by acting towards those around you according to the law of God.
      If sympathy for the wrongdoer leads to a mentality of downplaying wrongdoing and making excuses for it, then it is not a good thing.

    • @SegundaEtapa-r8w
      @SegundaEtapa-r8w 3 дня назад

      @@--Mar it’s called having compassion. And being responsible for the state of ppl’s souls is exactly what most of the ppl in this whole comment section is trying to do by laying heavy burdens they can’t even do because they know nobody is perfect. It’s hypocrisy and a fear of losing control at its best.

  • @mikie123
    @mikie123 4 дня назад +16

    God is cleansing the Belgian Church by separating the weed from the chaff. As strange as it sounds, this is a fruit of Pope Francis' trip.
    These people weren't very Catholic to begin with and now they no longer decay the Church from within.

  • @joshuamorgan4984
    @joshuamorgan4984 4 дня назад +34

    It’s better to be a small Church with firm believers who actually accept and follow the Church’s teachings than a large Church with people who believe anything. If you don’t stand for something, you fall for anything.

  • @kp9894
    @kp9894 4 дня назад +28

    It's truly sad they're entertaining the idea to leave the Catholic faith because they cannot accept the true teachings of the Church. But no matter what happens, the Church will still stand against evil no matter how popular it is. Will pray for their reversion...

  • @mjplate1311
    @mjplate1311 4 дня назад +72

    Someone needs to tell (remind) the youth/younger generations that being Catholic is supposed to be hard, to become a Saint is the most difficult thing you are being asked to do. You don't become a Saint by giving in to the erroneous ways of the world. You don't conform to the fallen world. God has given you everything you will ever need to become a Saint. But go ahead, turn your backs on God if you like, let us know how that works out for you. May God's grace lead you back one day, may your lives be enlightened once again with Truth. Praying for you all. 🙏🙏🙏✝️✝️✝️

    • @loveisall5520
      @loveisall5520 4 дня назад +8

      The problem we're seeing here is the same one we see in so many families now, with parents choosing to not be firm and forthright but instead trying to adapt and compromise principles. I'm so proud of His Holiness! Like you, I wish them well in their divergent faith journey and they can hopefully be comfortable in knowing that our Church will be waiting for them, built on the rock, when they grow tired of constantly blowing this way and that. Best wishes from Texas!

    • @Keith-qj5dp
      @Keith-qj5dp 4 дня назад

      Not according to the vicar of Lucifer on Earth He says everyone goes to Heaven including the atheist He also said all religions are a pathway to Heaven And the big one? Sodomites can union and their sodomy gets a blessing

    • @SegundaEtapa-r8w
      @SegundaEtapa-r8w 4 дня назад +1

      No one gets to impose this heavy burden onto others unless they were given permission to.
      The fact that people like you think it’s okay to baptize your children and babies or your family members impose onto them this heavy burden without letting them live first is a great shame.
      As a Catholic you’re supposed to make it easier for others to be Catholic.
      But you like imposing your beliefs onto random people because you think it’s a good thing.

    • @danielvulaj1463
      @danielvulaj1463 4 дня назад +1

      ​@@SegundaEtapa-r8w what are you talking about! So you are suggesting a life of sin to get it out of the way before becoming Catholic? What an absurd statement! Catholics MUST raise their children to be Catholic, there is no other choice. Whether you like it or not, whether your realize and accept it or not, God's law is universal and applies to all of us regardless of what you believe!

    • @SegundaEtapa-r8w
      @SegundaEtapa-r8w 4 дня назад +1

      @@danielvulaj1463 No, I’m saying to practice what you preach. You’re supposed to love others like God loves you. So if God didn’t force you to be Catholic then neither should his church force others.

  • @jacquelineharrod6386
    @jacquelineharrod6386 4 дня назад +38

    Bravo Pope Francis. The Almighty reward you.

    • @johncawley5579
      @johncawley5579 4 дня назад

      The pope who said all religions lead to god denying what the lord jesus said in John 14.6

  • @Episcopalianacolyte
    @Episcopalianacolyte 4 дня назад +10

    The pope is right ❤❤❤

  • @nilshubinette4932
    @nilshubinette4932 4 дня назад +9

    We need to pray for them to repent and come back! 🙏

  • @Highestintheroom12
    @Highestintheroom12 3 дня назад +6

    The Pope speaks nothing but the truth.

  • @patrickh9937
    @patrickh9937 3 дня назад +4

    "In keeping with the evolution of the world" That says it all.
    I suppose we should all pray for them.

    • @BabyBugBug
      @BabyBugBug 2 дня назад

      The secularist dogma has taken hold in the minds of our people. Look at what it’s done. It is awful. Progress? Is it really?

  • @JohnLaRuffa
    @JohnLaRuffa 4 дня назад +6

    You cannot remove the indelible mark of baptism. However, you can certainly turn your back on God and His church at your own peril. Good luck with that…

  • @stanislauslee9298
    @stanislauslee9298 3 дня назад +2

    Catholics are not people who choose something to believe, but those who belive as the Church, the mystical body of Christ, does. If someone chooses only those things which please him/her, this person is not a real christian. So let’s pray for these people who abandon their faith.

  • @StephaneBrissette-p1n
    @StephaneBrissette-p1n 4 дня назад +20

    We have to change our sinful ways, not the Church of our Savior Jesus Christ.
    May the Holy Spirit open the eyes of the blind and their ears to the message of God.
    🙏 ✝️

    • @arthurgouvet9606
      @arthurgouvet9606 4 дня назад +1

      Thank You for this relevant comment. God bless You

  • @heathsavage4852
    @heathsavage4852 3 дня назад +3

    They want a social club, not the Church of Christ.

  • @ShirleyPotts-ud3nb
    @ShirleyPotts-ud3nb 4 дня назад +5

    Pope Francis is very special

  • @crushtheserpent
    @crushtheserpent 4 дня назад +4

    "... in keeping with the evolution of the world"
    Sums up their position nicely!

  • @ifeanyimaduagwu3705
    @ifeanyimaduagwu3705 4 дня назад +30

    The church mustn't succumb to pressures, we should pressure the world in charity. God guide the pope, bishops and all who teach the faith.
    The church needs faithfuls (good and bad) not audience.

    • @idi3284
      @idi3284 4 дня назад +2

      Amen

    • @James-fk2ki
      @James-fk2ki 4 дня назад +2

      Amen

    • @davidschick6951
      @davidschick6951 4 дня назад

      We should pressure the world hard.

    • @SegundaEtapa-r8w
      @SegundaEtapa-r8w 4 дня назад +1

      The church needs perfect people. Something that 99% of followers aren’t.

    • @ifeanyimaduagwu3705
      @ifeanyimaduagwu3705 4 дня назад +1

      @SegundaEtapa-r8w There's no perfect person on the face of the earth.

  • @MrLucasonline
    @MrLucasonline 4 дня назад +10

    I stand for the Pope Francis

  • @vclazlo929
    @vclazlo929 4 дня назад +5

    Pray to our Holy Mother, St. Joseph, and St. Thomas Aquinas that they will see the error they are in.

  • @nealsilkman6014
    @nealsilkman6014 4 дня назад +5

    They are like vandals. They were always going to leave Jesus. They just want to smash up some of His stuff on the way out.
    I am sticking with the true, the good and the beautiful in His church.

  • @Victor-z6e9q
    @Victor-z6e9q 4 дня назад +9

    They were Catholics and didn't know that you CAN'T be "de-baptized"? Even in hell you are still baptized. Apostates who were baptized before falling out are still baptized. Odd thing to ask.

    • @kenofken9458
      @kenofken9458 4 дня назад +1

      True there is no formal way to un-baptize.
      There was however a formal way to leave the church. It was called an Act of Formal Defection and existed from I think 1983 to 2010 or so. I know about it because I used it myself. You had to write a letter to the diocese in which you were baptized basically telling them you were leaving, and leaving because you really wanted to, not just to get out of a church tax like they have in Germany. Supposedly the entered a notation in your baptism records that you left. I have no idea if they actually did, but they sent a letter back to that effect.
      They abolished the procedure after thousands of people in Ireland and elsewhere began using it and I guess they found that embarrassing.

    • @StanleyPinchak
      @StanleyPinchak 4 дня назад

      ​@@kenofken9458Baptism leaves an indelible mark on one's soul. You can not undo a Baptism.
      Prior to Baptism your actions were judged by the moral Law written on your heart.
      “14. For when the Gentiles, who have not the law, do by nature those things that are of the law; these, having not the law, are a law to themselves. 15. Who shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness to them: and their thoughts between themselves accusing or also defending one another,” (Rom 2:14-15, DRC)
      After Baptism you are dependent on the Church for the remission of your sins and access to the gates of Heaven.
      “Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them: and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.” (Joh 20:23, DRC)
      “And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.” (Mat 16:19, DRC)
      After coming to the knowledge of Christ there is no excuse.
      “Jesus said to them: If you were blind, you should not have sin: but now you say: We see. Your sin remaineth.” (Joh 9:41, DRC)

  • @notdonaldst
    @notdonaldst 3 дня назад +3

    Like I say to my adult children and non-practicing siblings, there are some rare occasions that I might disagree with the Church’s stand on some issue, but then I have to remind myself that there are billions of other Catholics that have held to that belief over the centuries and - well - maybe I’m not actually smarter than all of them…oh, and there is that thing about The Holy Spirit being sent to guide the Church. So, even though I take pains to study philosophy and theology, and consider myself pretty much “on the right track”, I have to make sure eat my share of humble pie on occasion (and go to confession regularly 😂)

  • @MAP2023
    @MAP2023 4 дня назад +20

    I laugh at these "progressives". Abortion is murder. Props to the Pope.

  • @mariobonnici5272
    @mariobonnici5272 4 дня назад +8

    They refuse God and his commandment so will God refuse them in eternity.

  • @ShamrockRagEll
    @ShamrockRagEll 3 дня назад +4

    That’s not how baptism (or other sacraments work). Those people don’t know their own faith and seem to be Catholic only on paper. Good news: if you want to be in eternal separation from god, you don’t need to „de-baptize“ - you just have to go on living with your false morals.

  • @alicianatividad5658
    @alicianatividad5658 4 дня назад +4

    Oh.. oh no need because "sacrament of baptism can only be administered once. For offenses after baptism, remedy is the Sacrament of Reconciliation or Confession.
    Usually, First confession is done before a faithful's first Communion. After that, according to church law, Confession should be done regularly according to person's circumstances or at least once a Year.

  • @Munklers
    @Munklers 4 дня назад +4

    the progressiveness of the world......
    Nah, not for me thanks.
    Why do young people think they know better than a 2000 year old Church?

  • @sherrycatanese4312
    @sherrycatanese4312 3 дня назад +1

    We are not to conform to the worlds ways, but to GODS! Jesus Christ is Lord. Please Holy Father do not conform to the world and leave Gods commandments behind.

  • @nevillesaldanha1566
    @nevillesaldanha1566 4 дня назад +4

    These students should devote their energies to getting a better education & being useful members of society.

    • @SegundaEtapa-r8w
      @SegundaEtapa-r8w 4 дня назад

      Why judge them for speaking out their minds like they should?

    • @StanleyPinchak
      @StanleyPinchak 4 дня назад

      ​@@SegundaEtapa-r8w we correct the young and foolish if we care for them.
      “1. He that loveth his son, frequently chastiseth him, that he may rejoice in his latter end, and not grope after the doors of his neighbours. 2. He that instructeth his son shall be praised in him, and shall glory in him in the midst of them of his household. 3. He that teacheth his son, maketh his enemy jealous, and in the midst of his friends he shall glory in him.” (Sir 30:1-3, DRC)

    • @SegundaEtapa-r8w
      @SegundaEtapa-r8w 4 дня назад

      @@StanleyPinchak but you don’t know these people. Why should you correct what isn’t yours?

    • @StanleyPinchak
      @StanleyPinchak 3 дня назад

      @@SegundaEtapa-r8w Are you also silent when they murder your preborn neighbors?

  • @ktthomas9775
    @ktthomas9775 3 дня назад +2

    Truth is eternal, it shouldn't be altered or compromised. After the discourse on the bread of life many left Jesus saying that it was difficult and hard to accept. But Jesus did not retract or modify his teaching!

  • @Owondr
    @Owondr 4 дня назад +3

    It’s Belgium…seriously…Belgium. What did we expect? 😂😂😂

  • @taylorblonde9438
    @taylorblonde9438 2 дня назад +1

    Abortion is killing or murder and woman is forever a woman … ❤

  • @ThePa1riot
    @ThePa1riot 4 дня назад +2

    1:54 “We do not want, as the newspapers say, a church that will move with the world. We want a church that will move the world.”
    ~GK Chesterton

  • @Servus-Dei83
    @Servus-Dei83 4 дня назад +2

    If you disagree wit the teaching of the church you are not Catholic, and you do not hold the truth with you.

  • @andrewpaul3130
    @andrewpaul3130 3 дня назад +1

    "In the end my Immaculate Heart will Triumph"
    Our Lady of Fatima

  • @jboycaceres2871
    @jboycaceres2871 4 дня назад +7

    May the Lord have mercy on their souls, for pride their souls has fallen. Rebellion against the Lord and the Holy Spirit is a very terrible sin.

    • @SegundaEtapa-r8w
      @SegundaEtapa-r8w 4 дня назад

      What are you talking about? The church gave a heavy burden to a bunch of unprepared people by a bunch of terrible leaders.

  • @johnnotrealname8168
    @johnnotrealname8168 4 дня назад +7

    I do not even understand what they were annoyed about.

  • @johncawley5579
    @johncawley5579 4 дня назад +3

    Acts 2:38 KJV
    [38] Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

  • @artifexdei3671
    @artifexdei3671 4 дня назад +5

    Belgium and Holland were at the forefront of changes after vatican 2. this has led to wokeness across the entire society.

  • @JeffersonElder
    @JeffersonElder 4 дня назад +4

    it is so clear that they were not even catholic! If they were they would have a slight idea that baptism can not be reversed. Apostatize and go your own way dudes

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    • @AndreaBeth-wo5dt
      @AndreaBeth-wo5dt 4 дня назад

      Hello, how do you achieve such biweekly returns? As a single parent i haven't been able to get my own house due to financial struggles, but my faith in God remains strong.

    • @JulieBrenda-zx3jv
      @JulieBrenda-zx3jv 4 дня назад

      I'm inspired.
      Please spill some sugar about the biweekly stuff you mentioned

    • @JudithGloria-ex1vk
      @JudithGloria-ex1vk 4 дня назад

      This is a definition of God's unending provisions for his people. God remains faithful to his words. 🙏 I receive this for my household

    • @TaresaNancy
      @TaresaNancy 4 дня назад

      Wow 😱I know her too
      Miss Kate Elizabeth Becherer is a remarkable individual who has brought immense positivity and inspiration into my life.

    • @ChristopherKenneth-ox3tv
      @ChristopherKenneth-ox3tv 4 дня назад

      I started with a miserly $1500. The results have been mind blowing I must say TBH

  • @SupaKio
    @SupaKio 4 дня назад +2

    Viva il Papa 🤩

  • @ClintGreen-nv3xr
    @ClintGreen-nv3xr 4 дня назад +2

    If they are not willing to accept that they are not the center of the universe, that the Church is bigger than then and their ideologies, that Christ is King and they are not, then leave they should.

  • @263sparky3
    @263sparky3 4 дня назад +3

    What faith did they have?

  • @PaulMcDonald-d6n
    @PaulMcDonald-d6n 4 дня назад +6

    The letter is proof that the *already* lost their Faith and already had left the Church and Our Lord.

    • @SegundaEtapa-r8w
      @SegundaEtapa-r8w 4 дня назад

      Everytime I see comments like this I just see how many of you are the ones that left the church and God.

  • @notdonaldst
    @notdonaldst 3 дня назад +2

    “De-baptized?”…what in the world is that supposed to mean? Didn’t anybody teach these kids basic theology? It’s not like leaving a club. Nobody can “undo” a baptism.

    • @dragonmartijn
      @dragonmartijn 3 дня назад

      These people were baptized while being babies, when it was a social duty to do it. Now, growing older, they think of themselves as being “enlightened” and want to distance themselves from the church. They lacked a religious upbringing.

  • @atoyebichris4444
    @atoyebichris4444 3 дня назад +2

    Viva Papa Francesco

  • @brianharoldvidal2374
    @brianharoldvidal2374 3 дня назад +1

    I am in the Catholic church not because of the Pope or magisterium but because of Christ Himself.

  • @PotatoBandana
    @PotatoBandana 3 дня назад +1

    "Asking to be de-baptized" shows about the level of catechetical formation I'd expect from people who think what they're asking for is at all compatible with Christianity.

  • @jodeneny2252
    @jodeneny2252 4 дня назад +4

    They don't have to ask its their free will to not participate. I hope they truly know what they are asking for. To reject what Jesus did on the Cross for us is rejecting The Holy Spirit and their Salvation. To spend eternity seperated from God is beyond belief.

  • @James-fk2ki
    @James-fk2ki 4 дня назад +5

    With or without you the Church will remain strong. It is upto you to choose your eternal place. Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever. The church reflects Christ. And the gates of hell shall not prevail over it. Let them leave, they know their ending.

    • @SegundaEtapa-r8w
      @SegundaEtapa-r8w 4 дня назад

      That’s a pretty strong judgement over some strangers. Be careful, unless you’ll be the one heavily judged.

  • @ernestannapetrone7106
    @ernestannapetrone7106 3 дня назад

    The Church is the foundation of a never changing Faith. We do not bow to the times of man but to our Lord Jesus Christ who from the beginning is the same!!!

  • @IRELANDEllen
    @IRELANDEllen 4 дня назад +1

    Good morning Holy Papa Fransiskus.

  • @DanielVillar-yc2zr
    @DanielVillar-yc2zr 3 дня назад +1

    I tell people who feel and think like these particular Belgians do. Would you rather have and trust someone in your life who is a "yes" person and is a wishy-washy person who changes at the whim of every situation or circumstance or would you rather have someone who is consistent, trustworthy, and will always be honest with you. I wouldn't want to be part of a religion that changes itself to make people feel better and satisfy the egos of the believers. I want to be part of a religion that stems from objective truth, and through that truth, the branches of that tree reflect the fullness of the fruit it was meant to bear.

  • @TOTAL457
    @TOTAL457 4 дня назад +2

    Apostasy? They are playing with fire with pun intended.

  • @michaellong9526
    @michaellong9526 4 дня назад +3

    When the crowds did not want to follow what Jesus preached he did not run after them reframing his message , he let them go. We should learn from our Lord, more will leave and fall away than will follow, we do not move off of truth to pander to those with sensitive ears.

  • @KnightGeneral
    @KnightGeneral 3 дня назад +1

    Wow The Audacity. Makes me ponder more on how God sees the arrogance of demons and why there is Hell.

  • @benedictchinweuba5820
    @benedictchinweuba5820 4 дня назад +3

    You can’t be de-baptized.

  • @kuyskoko00
    @kuyskoko00 3 дня назад +1

    That's okay. They are not a lost to the catholic church

  • @marvinleonardojerio1033
    @marvinleonardojerio1033 3 дня назад +1

    You do not bite the hand that feeds your soul.

  • @rubilsj4241
    @rubilsj4241 3 дня назад +1

    Pope Francis here reminds me of Jesus. Jesus asked his Disciples: Do you also want to leave.

  • @victoriaa9107
    @victoriaa9107 4 дня назад +1

    Have they never heard church teaching on those subjects ever before in their lives? They are just doing that to make a stunt.

  • @dhavid2430
    @dhavid2430 3 дня назад +1

    Let them be at least in this way the Church gets rid of some absurd so-called Catholics.

  • @bobbyflores220
    @bobbyflores220 3 дня назад +1

    Ill formed "Catholics" instead of being "De Baptized" they need to learn their faith💯 There is no "Mob Rule" in Gods Church...

  • @Al88633
    @Al88633 3 дня назад

    What the Church needs is "Renewal of the mind" as mentioned in Rom 12:2. When we "format" our minds we start thinking right. When we think right we practice right. Masculinisation of women resulted in denial of love to the children. Denial of love affects our thinking and we become materialistic focused only on sensory satisfaction. We will not understand matters of the spiritual realm and even if it is spelt out to us we will not be able to comprehend it. This is why "Renewal of the mind" is so important in the church. Ideally this should be done before administering the Sacrament of Conformation.

  • @Zack-f6p
    @Zack-f6p 2 дня назад

    Once baptized always baptized, there’s no practice to debaptize, how would that even happen

  • @whatsup3270
    @whatsup3270 3 дня назад

    I love this Pope and he has no place judging others. I suspect a lot of this is to appease his "conservatives".

  • @zr3755
    @zr3755 2 дня назад

    Good on Frank for supporting the Tradition, for once

  • @JaylenPotts-zs2qw
    @JaylenPotts-zs2qw 2 дня назад

    Pope Francis is very special and powerful

  • @vladuhi1723
    @vladuhi1723 4 дня назад +1

    Debaptised? They are catholics? So, they throw away Jesus's gift for humanity? This is I think, the worst sin, against the Holy Spirit.

    • @RedRiverMan
      @RedRiverMan 4 дня назад

      for their sake and ours I hope theres was not the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost that Jesus mentioned in the gospels....it won't be forgiven.

    • @vladuhi1723
      @vladuhi1723 3 дня назад

      @RedRiverMan You said it, brother. I also hope it!

  • @alexm.tellez.4893
    @alexm.tellez.4893 2 дня назад

    They see Baptism as the membership of a local swimming pool, they're completely lost.

  • @isabonita6779
    @isabonita6779 3 дня назад

    Prayers for the Pope, he is sifting the wheat.

  • @pamelahermano9298
    @pamelahermano9298 4 дня назад +5

    You can’t be debaptized. Just saying

  • @anionchloriou3483
    @anionchloriou3483 19 часов назад

    The pope is right in this matter.

  • @SweetUncleG
    @SweetUncleG День назад

    Its better for them to leave rather than contaminating the other...cause many still belive in those values...and those value are there for a reason...they will learnt that later in live

  • @beenbeatenbybishops5845
    @beenbeatenbybishops5845 2 дня назад

    Frankly, I am shocked by two things. That Bergoglio said anything close to being the truth and that anyone listened to what he said.

  • @SPECIALmouTH
    @SPECIALmouTH 3 дня назад

    I'm with Pope Francis

  • @paramedic135
    @paramedic135 4 дня назад +4

    They were never catholics to begin with and desperately need to repent. Also, 500? In a religion of 1.3B? Ok

  • @bhgtree
    @bhgtree 4 дня назад +2

    I feel sorry for those people, they don't know what they believe or what they want. The Church must stand up firm and True for all time.

  • @johnjoyce1958
    @johnjoyce1958 2 дня назад

    A baptized Catholic cannot be unbaptized. It's like a Priest once you are consecrated you are always a Priest even if you leave the priesthood.

  • @CatholicIrish11
    @CatholicIrish11 День назад

    The Church is meant to be a guide for people's morals and do the right thing not to change to the whims of a few protestors

  • @piusochigbochristian1079
    @piusochigbochristian1079 3 дня назад

    No body should cry for people who want to leave the church because they don't like Church teachings or can't comform to the teachings of Christ.
    You don't force anyone to get salvation. It's a choice.

  • @Good_gnat
    @Good_gnat 2 дня назад

    The ego to want to be de-Baptized would mean you value political sentiment and melodrama over deep spiritual truth and ecclesial authority.

  • @TyroneBeiron
    @TyroneBeiron 2 дня назад

    Let them be apostate, as it is out of their own free will. It is not as if this is unusual. Hundreds of Catholics who adopt strenuous positions against church teaching in a public way also give themselves to being out of communion with the Church. As painful as it may seem, this is a clear choice made.

  • @Thomas_Guida
    @Thomas_Guida 4 дня назад +1

    I think the most funny part to me at least is that in the current church climate I think that letter would actually cause our "church leaders" to rethink the dogmas and teachings of the Church 😂 Imagine if the Church said "maybe Luther was right. We should get rid of those seven books of the Bible". I think it will get there the way we're going, maybe 20-40 years if the church isn't force to go underground before.

    • @ChaChaDancin
      @ChaChaDancin 4 дня назад +1

      Interesting, even on a video showing the Pope fighting for truth, there are still some who are compelled to attack him and the Church.

    • @Thomas_Guida
      @Thomas_Guida 4 дня назад

      @ChaChaDancin interesting that you spin my words to "attack on the pope and church". No where did I mention Pope Francis and no where did I even remotely "attack" the church. Those students attacked the church, so maybe you think I'm an apostate? Do people really not think before commenting? Sorry if you felt that way, that you can't see anything but "attacker" at the slightest comment. I'm just remarking/finding levity in that now, when the church is more and more progressively liberal is the most likely time that the church would actually entertain and consider changing teachings. I got a good laugh from that. It's bad when almost every major act by a Pope is controversy among moderate catholics who I personally know (because the radicals on both sides are hysterical). And lastly, it's my personal belief that the church *will* go underground in the next 50 years or so regardless. Europe's faith is declining, if even existent anymore, and with communist China, Russia, etc ... threatening the world with world war, it's very possible. Oh, and just so we're clear, I never said anything about Pope Francis. In fact, good on him for saying what he said to them and you can see those students discovering that their "faith" is not what they thought it was. But I wonder who put that in their heads in the first place 🤔

    • @ChaChaDancin
      @ChaChaDancin 4 дня назад +1

      @@Thomas_Guida a long but ultimately unpersuasive explanation. Yes, you did attack the church and our “church leaders”. Own it at your next confession.

    • @Thomas_Guida
      @Thomas_Guida 4 дня назад

      @@ChaChaDancin how Christian of you 😂 judging others. Just like every rad trad and liberal whacko in the church. Who are you to judge? Get off your high horse. Take the log out your eye before you take the splinter from others. I believe the Pope sides with me on that one too. So how about you say that at your next confession. You are the very problem that plagues the church today.

    • @SegundaEtapa-r8w
      @SegundaEtapa-r8w 4 дня назад

      The Catholic church did change things because of his letter. Maybe they should give these students demands a look and decide what’s best.

  • @swoosh1mil
    @swoosh1mil 3 дня назад

    It’s funny that they are asking for it; rather than just rejecting their baptism. 😂

  • @starglow3684
    @starglow3684 4 дня назад +2

    That is why we are in war in this time….
    God have mercy on us 🙏🏻

  • @NicholasPowers
    @NicholasPowers 3 дня назад

    Pope Francis have said Abortion that He has to pray for his resignation many countries He said to Ban abortion it's illegal for such thing that pope Francis did to women 0:15