BM tier is designed to only have your latest Dire Beast obey Kill Command, Kill Cleave & Beast Cleave. Otherwise with all dire beasts doing that, it'd be completely broken and we'd get nerfed to the floor. Again! So yeah, it's not a bug, it's designed like that and they've updated the tier bonus tooltip to reflect that.
Arcane is a turret spec which in M+ is not always good when it works you can see huge dmg but as soon as something interupt you your dmg plummets. Also this set bonus with it's changes makes your ST burst insanely strong but actually fully casting missiles feels weird again.since we clip RN
I have so much fun on my MM hunter. Not saying your tier list is wrong, I may just have to try some other classes as I’ve only played resto druid , disc priest, and arms warrior. But from my experience mm hunter is fun.
You definitely have to get rid of Unerring Vision in favor of Calling The Shots. You get full value of the new 4pc with the reduced CD trueshot. The current sim differences between the two is less than 10%-- the increased value of the tier set will make it worth it. Plus with 39 more ilvl next tier, we dont really need the crit strike chance-- most MM in BiS will actually be over 45-50% crit next tier.
Hey thanks for all the great information. Arcane main here. Was curious how competitive Arcane is in M+ next season currently? The 4p alone will still make me main it regardless but I'm a little worried about having mana problems again without the current 4p.
Elemental Shaman has always been my first alt after my Ret paladin main. Lava burst has a cd unlike many other dots. How bad is the ramp up time trying to get out those extra lava bursts with the tier set?
My main has changed three times in the last 3 days this is exhausting! I've seen you on your Augmentation Evoker a LOT recently so even though it's sharing the top spot with Outlaw rogue I think I might have to pick it for my main! Honestly after maining BM hunter in season 2 I'm looking for an easier spec for next season anyway, playing the hardest spec in the game was getting pretty taxing! Was hoping to play MM but if its looking that weak then I don't think I'll bother! Thankyou for helping me pick my main for a third season in a row VagineralTV your knowledge of the power of specs in this game is unparalleled you bloody pogchamp!
That's not a good tuning effort, literally cutting out anything that makes MM somewhat "difficult" to play AND literally easy mode on focus generation won't fix the problem but make this spec ridiculous. Multi AND arcane shot focus generator, only ONE spender left, literally the only spender with cast time, castable while moving, nothing to choose from, nothing making it special or unique, no restrictions, no difficulty, 2 buttons to push in single, 4 at best in multitarget scenarios, yeah, that sounds like a fun spec. Very unqualified comment. Redesigning the entire trick shot mechanic/fantasy will have a greater impact without thinning the gameplay, dmg tuning accordingly + instead of making AS baseline castable while moving they maybe should have it benefit from trueshot with some "aspect of the eagle"-like fantasy where MM can AS while moving for the duration of trueshot. If they'd do what you say they could easily just give him a "dmg" button, remove focus entirely and emote /applause to every successful push of the only damage button he has.
There really shouldn't be a world where BM is more fun than this many other classes, even after finally getting a dps spike CD. BM's attacks feel like slapping trash/bosses with a wet noodle and tracking two buffs with a 3 button rotation is really not fun - it's pretty dreadful. Take it from a hunter main.
Warlock is d tier for everything. Frankly speaking, there wasn't a single change in dragonflight that was positive, aside maybe a few affliction changes. It's an inferior version to s4 shadowlands in every way. Just really bad. Utterly unfun in every way compared to what it used to be. Then we have s priest. Terrible. The rework gameplay is not that good, and now they nerfed it, so nothing remains.
BM tier is designed to only have your latest Dire Beast obey Kill Command, Kill Cleave & Beast Cleave. Otherwise with all dire beasts doing that, it'd be completely broken and we'd get nerfed to the floor.
Again!
So yeah, it's not a bug, it's designed like that and they've updated the tier bonus tooltip to reflect that.
I miss legion MM. Remember getting lots of procs on serpent shot and then launching like 10 aim shots off? Good times.
Arcane is a turret spec which in M+ is not always good when it works you can see huge dmg but as soon as something interupt you your dmg plummets. Also this set bonus with it's changes makes your ST burst insanely strong but actually fully casting missiles feels weird again.since we clip RN
yeah definitely agree!
I have so much fun on my MM hunter. Not saying your tier list is wrong, I may just have to try some other classes as I’ve only played resto druid , disc priest, and arms warrior. But from my experience mm hunter is fun.
the base gameplay is fun but the changes for next season are so bad :(
MM hunter is super strong currently...
... on lowlevel scaling during event bosses
😂😂
I’m praying they help MM hunters out. It’s my favorite Hunter spec to play and it’s looking to be the worst spec in 10.2.
i hope so too man:(
They killed mm in end of the legion expansion and make hunter just an alt char for pve
Same… been maining it for a good while and I am sad for the spec.
You definitely have to get rid of Unerring Vision in favor of Calling The Shots. You get full value of the new 4pc with the reduced CD trueshot. The current sim differences between the two is less than 10%-- the increased value of the tier set will make it worth it.
Plus with 39 more ilvl next tier, we dont really need the crit strike chance-- most MM in BiS will actually be over 45-50% crit next tier.
Would be helpful if u could put up the tier sets on screen when talking about em 😀
Hey thanks for all the great information. Arcane main here. Was curious how competitive Arcane is in M+ next season currently? The 4p alone will still make me main it regardless but I'm a little worried about having mana problems again without the current 4p.
i think arcane will be decent bro
@@VesperalTV Hope so. Ready for those giga buffed Arcane Missiles
Elemental Shaman has always been my first alt after my Ret paladin main. Lava burst has a cd unlike many other dots. How bad is the ramp up time trying to get out those extra lava bursts with the tier set?
Lava burst build its the only what make fun i never understand why this lighning build make fun .... Proc classes make most fun!
You literally have a video from a couple weeks ago named "MM hunter is giga fun"........
Vesperal 2 weeks ago saying how much fun he has playing MM hunter. Then proceeds ranking him to D tier in "fun" tier list
A lot of these guys just watch top player streams like Maximum and just copy paste.
Elem Shaman ❤❤❤❤ Im just right now rerolled to Elem Shamy and its so fun ❤❤❤
its legit the most fun ive had dude
Ele is fun af but man they need to rework that goofy ascendant look... its been this shit since cata and doesn't look shamanic AT ALL...
My main has changed three times in the last 3 days this is exhausting! I've seen you on your Augmentation Evoker a LOT recently so even though it's sharing the top spot with Outlaw rogue I think I might have to pick it for my main! Honestly after maining BM hunter in season 2 I'm looking for an easier spec for next season anyway, playing the hardest spec in the game was getting pretty taxing! Was hoping to play MM but if its looking that weak then I don't think I'll bother! Thankyou for helping me pick my main for a third season in a row VagineralTV your knowledge of the power of specs in this game is unparalleled you bloody pogchamp!
thankyou although my evoker, arcane mage and ret pala takes were sussy
😂 strong bait!
Lol cringe af
Lmfaoooo tf
Putting BM hunter over any other hunter spec is hilarious 😂😂
The most braindead spec is not fun at allll
make aim shot castable while moving and get rid of steady shot and make multi-shot and arcane shot focus generators, then we are good
That's not a good tuning effort, literally cutting out anything that makes MM somewhat "difficult" to play AND literally easy mode on focus generation won't fix the problem but make this spec ridiculous. Multi AND arcane shot focus generator, only ONE spender left, literally the only spender with cast time, castable while moving, nothing to choose from, nothing making it special or unique, no restrictions, no difficulty, 2 buttons to push in single, 4 at best in multitarget scenarios, yeah, that sounds like a fun spec.
Very unqualified comment.
Redesigning the entire trick shot mechanic/fantasy will have a greater impact without thinning the gameplay, dmg tuning accordingly + instead of making AS baseline castable while moving they maybe should have it benefit from trueshot with some "aspect of the eagle"-like fantasy where MM can AS while moving for the duration of trueshot.
If they'd do what you say they could easily just give him a "dmg" button, remove focus entirely and emote /applause to every successful push of the only damage button he has.
Rogue (Outlaw and Assa), Ret, and Enhance for me.
great choices!
Havoc DH Tier B??? WHAT THE FUCK LMAO
can you not read the title? It is MOST FUN not best
the wizard better than the dh? in 10.2?😂😂😂😂
Literally says most fun tier list, not what's gunna be good you donut
There really shouldn't be a world where BM is more fun than this many other classes, even after finally getting a dps spike CD. BM's attacks feel like slapping trash/bosses with a wet noodle and tracking two buffs with a 3 button rotation is really not fun - it's pretty dreadful. Take it from a hunter main.
Warlock is d tier for everything.
Frankly speaking, there wasn't a single change in dragonflight that was positive, aside maybe a few affliction changes.
It's an inferior version to s4 shadowlands in every way.
Just really bad. Utterly unfun in every way compared to what it used to be.
Then we have s priest. Terrible. The rework gameplay is not that good, and now they nerfed it, so nothing remains.
perkin ql