Facts. Joe always stressed he didn’t want to be a music podcast. It makes sense now. Everything worked out the way it had to. Hopefully 1 day the can hash it out like men and let bygones be bygones. May be a while hopefully we get to see that 1 day
@@GoldenChild100k I think it’s a possibility with Rory but Mal is too deep in his feeling plus Joe torched him so bad! His ego won’t let that happen right now.
What ish is saying is so true. The pod before was just really funny. If it got serious, then it would be joe speaking on a rant. Now, ish and ice can actually bring mature conversations where mal and rory weren't going to do that. It had to be funny then. now it can be both, and I enjoy that versatility and that's expanded even more with Mel and flip
They could be serious, the difference now vs then is that is during a serious conversation. Joes doesn't just rant & bulldoze anyone else's opinion. Joe had to grow as a podcaster, which is a credit to him, but that is the difference. If Mal disagreed w/ Joe he was lying or being "too cool". If Rory disagreed w/ Joe, Joe dismissed his opinion.
The story of Antwan, the Joe Budden random dancing, random rapping, random story telling, the Mal calling out Joe for doing Lisa Evers, etc. The Rory Mal and Joe era is unmatched. I always said the shit is so funny but I knew it was gonna end one day......
I been listening since the beginning and for me the pod is better now even tho I do sometimes miss how funny it use to be but also since I’ve been a listener I’ve graduated high school & college, getting into my career and wants to hear about different life experiences & possible game now compared to when I was in my late teens & early 20s
ish 10000% right and thats why is say joe is the best and the JBP is the best podcast in the world because all the other podcast are interview base and The JBP rarely have interviews is just them talking and it be great all the time they got a special group
IMO this pod version is waaaaaaay better than the old. It seemed to me like they low key hated on joe this ish and ice bring a different dynamic. For example that joe going off on em pod wouldn’t of happened they not going to let they boy jump off the pourch on some crazy shit or some of his other takes, it appears to be more professional and entertaining now
That part you gotta give them credit for the work effort. I truly believe Joe is very aware of his product. This show is actually produced content they make it look like friends just be on a couch this is a production
I fw Ish but Rory definitely was in corporate America lol I often hear him say he worked in corporate America and owned his own business where as they didn't but rory worked at a label and plus helped run dussepalooza
Rory worked for Sony before the JBP ,also Joe was trying to get Rory and Mal to do a lot of the episodes on Patreon before the break up so they would be doing the same thing too , maybe not as much because them niggaz wasn’t letting Joe slave them like he does yah lol.
Ish has to stop saying Him and Ice brought more to talk about on the pod. The old show was more than just jokes. Mal was 1 of the first people to take a stance against Tory bs Meg. They discussed serious stuff all the time
@@onemanarmy1873 I didn’t say he didn’t, I agree he is very intelligent. I was only talking about him saying the old show was just all jokes. And it wasnt
Ish and ice are more diverse, mature and transparent Rory and mal were a tad bit limited. Joes business model and strategy when it comes to podding might not be really appreciated for another decade but he definitely sees the big picture versus the rest of these podcasters who are trendy, chasing the bag and assuming all it takes is a microphone, opinions on hot topics a few famous guests and a couple hours a week
Joe Biden is not a good friend that Nzinga is narcissistic and it doesn’t even hide that shit is gloom glaring not to be too critical on him that Niga need therapy
He's wrong here about a few things but I get the points he was trying to make. The old cast definitely had serious talks and definitely use to work really hard
I agree. Ish has a few good points but I feel like he’s maybe a bit biased & or stretching the truth. I feel like the old cast just hit a bump in the road that literally couldn’t be amended. I think they went through a lot of BS & got sick & tired of each other. That’s why the ending was a complete mess. Also, it doesn’t help that Joe owed them money because he was playing with the accounting & probably* stole $ because he felt that they didn’t even deserve what they agreed upon. Narcissistic Joe
I appreciate yall for speaking the truth. ... everybody tries to discredit Mal... but Joe still hasn't recreated his sauce. Joe ain't even the same since then.
@thelastkingofjune6460 it's an entertainment podcast and he made me laugh hard all the time. .. I'm here for the jokes. Him and Joe together was something special. My opinion
Rory and mal had better chemistry. That’s why joe had to add Melissa and flip them niggas was boring. Life is already serious I just wanna laugh at homies cracking on each other
Ish is right, the old pod was more comedy based and thats why I tuned in cuz it sounded like real friends chopping it up. I cant stand the new one because its too boring and sounds rehearsed
everyone has their own taste, but Rory was never the funny one, he was the butt of jokes. Flip is so fake its not funny anymore. Its for sure more mature though now w deeper conversations, but thats not why I would listen@@mississippibilly_
Ish is my favorite member of the JBP now, but I do hate when he says that he & Ice can talk about more things that Rory and Mal couldn’t because that’s just not true. No they didn’t have children, but it was so many more things they brought. Like R&M were well updated on all the topics, Ish being older rarely knows what’s going on in the Hip Hop news cycle..
"so many more things they brought" exampel "whats going on in the hip hop news cycle" rory and mal were aware of pop culture, rarely would they go outside of that. I started watching in the early 100's. This version is the better iteration.
@@NotoriousBreed well I wasn’t just going to sit up here and name 10 examples… but it’s true Ish comes in all the time and not even know about the topics they have to talk about. That’s not bringing more, he’s just very well spoken
@gamefantasticcuz right very different. I'm seeing all the time whenever Ish says this ppl taking it way too literally he's speaking more in general overall. Like when ish get into that real estate and construction bag. The old cast would need a guest for a conversation like that. Even ice with the nerdy tech, stuff they would need a guest for that. What I feel he's saying is the things Rory and Mal but moreso Mal could give in depth conversation about ie music industry shit, street shit etc. Those type of topics speak to a smaller demo. The corporate experience, parenting experience, etc those things are relatable to more people
No lie. When I first heard Rory and Mal left I stopped watching for a while. But not I’m back a ice and ish are great co host. I will say though Joe need to let other people talk more
It was a music podcast with r&m. Joe was getting tired of music so needed to make the switch to more life and culture. Ish be making it sound like the new crew changing the pod game. And I’m not just caping for R&M, they shit not hitting like the old days either. Joe should of tried to keep both pod crews and 2nd mic/ host one of them. 😢
Honestly Joe wasn't gonna let Rory and Mal scream back on him now he's gotten older realize I can do the same things I did with the old cast and the pod would go off the rails when he got on his rant wave that Eminem rant was annoying as hell, but he's gotten better and learned he's running out of friends to pod with also 😂😂😂
I think Ish is stretching the truth. Joe, Rory & Mal definitely had serious, real talk conversations dispersed through the hilarious, comedic stretches. I would like someone to do a video essay on a Before vs. Now of the JBP. Like the JBP has gone through like 5-6 iterations when you really think of it. Joe is definitely a pioneer & unique talent but I feel like he definitely stole from them, played with the numbers etc.
Rory,Mal, and Rory played out. It was getting so predictable and stale. I'm glad Joe changed it up. The content is much better now. Joe has the results no matter what you want to say about him.
I remember looking in the comments and people would celebrate when they would stand up to joe on some versus vibe. The music orientation was great, but that chemistry always had some weird tension that made it seem fake.
Ish keep saying that him and Ice brought something different to the show but I don't agree. Rory had a corporate job and he was college educated too. The topics aren't any more serious now than they were before
Ish and Ice will shoot rory and mal all kinda bail but them two never have anything positive to say about them. And when they do it's only to make it appear as though they're not hating so it comes off as fake to a person that can really read that type of shyt
Just in case anyone's reading before watching, Ish NEVRR said Joe made Rory and Mal". That clickbait picture editing shows a lack of integrity and I can only assume it is to compensate for the lack of quality of this podcast. I will absolutely not support a black podcast that uses deception to manipulate its views at the expense of its own guests. 👎🏽
@1:40 “didn’t never work in corporate America”? With that grammar, neither did he lol. I digress…Rory worked at music labels. Why is he saying neither had corporate experience?
Ish ass don't even be at the Pod now, I'm sure for the two days a week you come in for 6-8 hours you make more than the person working 5-7 days 8 hours a day. Don't Gas it my G
Mann … this guy ish, i fucks with him but let’s be serious, podcasting is a not physical labor job, you getting paid to talk for a 2 days out the week, I get it, it’s long hours but come on ish
To all the Ishrealytes💪🏿
😂😂😂
Ew.
😂😂
Okay. I like it…
Nah this crazy dicksucking 💀
This is the vision that Joe wanted years ago with the old staff! Shoutout for this interview!🫵🏾
Facts. Joe always stressed he didn’t want to be a music podcast. It makes sense now. Everything worked out the way it had to. Hopefully 1 day the can hash it out like men and let bygones be bygones. May be a while hopefully we get to see that 1 day
@@GoldenChild100k I think it’s a possibility with Rory but Mal is too deep in his feeling plus Joe torched him so bad! His ego won’t let that happen right now.
*People keep leaving out Parks! He's really low-key, the B mic*
Ish is speaking facts. The talk became different.
If u hate Ish you're just a hater. That's a smart brother, super perceptive.
What ish is saying is so true. The pod before was just really funny. If it got serious, then it would be joe speaking on a rant. Now, ish and ice can actually bring mature conversations where mal and rory weren't going to do that. It had to be funny then. now it can be both, and I enjoy that versatility and that's expanded even more with Mel and flip
They could be serious, the difference now vs then is that is during a serious conversation. Joes doesn't just rant & bulldoze anyone else's opinion. Joe had to grow as a podcaster, which is a credit to him, but that is the difference. If Mal disagreed w/ Joe he was lying or being "too cool". If Rory disagreed w/ Joe, Joe dismissed his opinion.
I ain't gone lie. The other guests dont bring me in to want to view. Now, this was a good move for the pod. I clicked immediately.
I’m waiting for the full interview ish is that dude 💯
I like both versions but I used to fall over laughing with Rory and mal. Y’all remember the Durex conversation is the most funny segment ever
Those pods were crazy, it’s hard for me to look at either shows now.
Top 10 funniest old JBP moments EVER 😂😂😂
Nah you remember the “Trey songz have 20 minutes of hits” segment 🤣🤣🤣
They're honestly not even the same type of podcast
The story of Antwan, the Joe Budden random dancing, random rapping, random story telling, the Mal calling out Joe for doing Lisa Evers, etc. The Rory Mal and Joe era is unmatched. I always said the shit is so funny but I knew it was gonna end one day......
I agree with his break down of the old pod it was comedic relief
Joe Budden's ego is insane 🤣. But Joe is a legend!!!!! Salute to Ish for acknowledging my dude. "ARE YOU IN THAT MOOD YET?!!"
I'm happy ish respectfully touched on the 1st version of the podcast.
I been listening since the beginning and for me the pod is better now even tho I do sometimes miss how funny it use to be but also since I’ve been a listener I’ve graduated high school & college, getting into my career and wants to hear about different life experiences & possible game now compared to when I was in my late teens & early 20s
As a independent podcaster that did 100 episodes this is real talk
Not too much on Ish!💪🏿
Ish spittin 💪🏿
ish 10000% right and thats why is say joe is the best and the JBP is the best podcast in the world because all the other podcast are interview base and The JBP rarely have interviews is just them talking and it be great all the time they got a special group
Ish carries the JBP
Ngl when flip came on it made it a lot better imo
Ish been on a run!
A real one I mess with ish Joe to them boys cool and showing the world how to hold it down
IMO this pod version is waaaaaaay better than the old. It seemed to me like they low key hated on joe this ish and ice bring a different dynamic. For example that joe going off on em pod wouldn’t of happened they not going to let they boy jump off the pourch on some crazy shit or some of his other takes, it appears to be more professional and entertaining now
Ish everywhere but at the JBP 😂😂
It would be amazing for Ice Ish Rory Mal & Joe to have one huge ass podcast together.
Respect to Combat Jack.
This is real talk. They do be working like crazy. Ima proud Patrony. And it do be dark as shit a lot of the episodes 😂😂😂😂😂
its funny how ish signs more here than on the pod - id like to see more of this ish on the pod.
That part you gotta give them credit for the work effort. I truly believe Joe is very aware of his product. This show is actually produced content they make it look like friends just be on a couch this is a production
The show is WAY better with ish and the new cast these old joe fanatics need to chill & leave it alone, it’s DONE
As a father and husband I prefer the new pod
I fw Ish but Rory definitely was in corporate America lol I often hear him say he worked in corporate America and owned his own business where as they didn't but rory worked at a label and plus helped run dussepalooza
Rory worked for Sony before the JBP ,also Joe was trying to get Rory and Mal to do a lot of the episodes on Patreon before the break up so they would be doing the same thing too , maybe not as much because them niggaz wasn’t letting Joe slave them like he does yah lol.
But Ish already made millions in real estate, according to him. He does it because he loves it and gets paid.
@@dlkc2000 my point was he knew about corporate.
These Ish interviews doing numbers, I gotta get him on my show while this press run is going on 😂
Ish has to stop saying Him and Ice brought more to talk about on the pod. The old show was more than just jokes. Mal was 1 of the first people to take a stance against Tory bs Meg. They discussed serious stuff all the time
I prefer the new one.
That’s one topic most of it was clowning Joe or crazy hypothetical situations. It’s more serious grown topics
LOL DUDE SAID THE TORY SITUATION LOL SMH 🤦♂️ ISH BRINGS MUCH MORE GAME / KNOWLEDGE TO THE POD & IM NOT BIASED I MISS THE OLD PODCAST!
@@onemanarmy1873 I didn’t say he didn’t, I agree he is very intelligent. I was only talking about him saying the old show was just all jokes. And it wasnt
You missed the context thats why ppl not just agreeing
Ish and ice are more diverse, mature and transparent Rory and mal were a tad bit limited. Joes business model and strategy when it comes to podding might not be really appreciated for another decade but he definitely sees the big picture versus the rest of these podcasters who are trendy, chasing the bag and assuming all it takes is a microphone, opinions on hot topics a few famous guests and a couple hours a week
Aunt Viv 😂🤣
He basically jus said Rory and mal was comic relief lol
Ish on a press run or something? Couple of articles, and a couple of podcasts as of late
I think his star power is just rising. Real recognize real 🤷🏿♂️
Libary spreading his wings
Facts ….Joe open the lane
Yo they said Joe name and the lights started flickering 😭 the Podfather
I never accepted the new Aunt Viv.
me either
Joe Biden is not a good friend that Nzinga is narcissistic and it doesn’t even hide that shit is gloom glaring not to be too critical on him that Niga need therapy
He's wrong here about a few things but I get the points he was trying to make. The old cast definitely had serious talks and definitely use to work really hard
All Mal did was sit there looking bored on his fcking phone!!! He should have gotten rid of them a LONG time ago!!
@@KO-OG-Passport-Bro-1997facts, he started being serious when the pod was profiting
I agree. Ish has a few good points but I feel like he’s maybe a bit biased & or stretching the truth.
I feel like the old cast just hit a bump in the road that literally couldn’t be amended. I think they went through a lot of BS & got sick & tired of each other.
That’s why the ending was a complete mess.
Also, it doesn’t help that Joe owed them money because he was playing with the accounting & probably* stole $ because he felt that they didn’t even deserve what they agreed upon.
Narcissistic Joe
I appreciate yall for speaking the truth. ... everybody tries to discredit Mal... but Joe still hasn't recreated his sauce. Joe ain't even the same since then.
What was his sauce just clowning Joe? He never added anything but that’s crazy.
@thelastkingofjune6460 it's an entertainment podcast and he made me laugh hard all the time. .. I'm here for the jokes. Him and Joe together was something special. My opinion
Mal ain’t recreate that sauce either lol he’s mad mid now and got horrible takes most of the time
@@cs5315the only real comment
@@cs5315right
Rory and mal had better chemistry. That’s why joe had to add Melissa and flip them niggas was boring. Life is already serious I just wanna laugh at homies cracking on each other
This is great stuff!!
With the current cast Mal would still be a great addition to the JBP…..
Love Ish!
Library that Nigga 💯💯💯
King Ish
Ish that dude
RESPECT 🫡 ✊🏾
Dope 💯💣💥👌🏿👊🏿👏🏿👏🏿👍🏾👍🏾👏🏿. He dropped mad jewels. LISTEN!😮😂😂
Ish is right, the old pod was more comedy based and thats why I tuned in cuz it sounded like real friends chopping it up. I cant stand the new one because its too boring and sounds rehearsed
But Ish is his childhood friend too
@@MrKevy40no he didn’t he knew him when they were older
everyone has their own taste, but Rory was never the funny one, he was the butt of jokes. Flip is so fake its not funny anymore. Its for sure more mature though now w deeper conversations, but thats not why I would listen@@mississippibilly_
I never liked the new aunt Viv. The original one was beautiful, elegant, talented and educated. The new one was just loud.
The Newark boys 💯
I wonder how Mal and Ish relationship is
Ish brings that old head vibe to the JBP! Don't know they're history but it beings value to the show and they argue like friends.
Y’all niggas on the comeback
Hynaken takes be weird as fuck 😂😂😂
Ish is my favorite member of the JBP now, but I do hate when he says that he & Ice can talk about more things that Rory and Mal couldn’t because that’s just not true. No they didn’t have children, but it was so many more things they brought. Like R&M were well updated on all the topics, Ish being older rarely knows what’s going on in the Hip Hop news cycle..
"so many more things they brought" exampel "whats going on in the hip hop news cycle" rory and mal were aware of pop culture, rarely would they go outside of that. I started watching in the early 100's. This version is the better iteration.
@@NotoriousBreed well I wasn’t just going to sit up here and name 10 examples… but it’s true Ish comes in all the time and not even know about the topics they have to talk about. That’s not bringing more, he’s just very well spoken
@@KDot-un8gdwell it is bringing more simply because whatever he is saying is him reacting to the news in real time basically
Didn't Rory work for big music labels, that's corporate America right ? ✌🏾✌🏽✌🏼❤️
Yeah I think he used to have some position at Sony..
actually its Combat Jack but go off tho
He dissed y’all on y’all own pod “we not guest based 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 y’all got quietttttt
Deam who the heck has the time to watch that much content?
Wonder if flip will bring this up lol
Ish a dope dude. but I really wish Rory and Mal was still with Joe I had some gut busting laughs when they was
Joe used to argue with Rory and Mal all the time. Too many comps to prove it
Not like Ish and Joe. You can’t find a video that compares.
Yeah Ish admits all the time he didn’t watch the old show and it shows sometimes. Mal definitely would challenge Joe on some bs
The arguments are different though, Joe was always on attack. Now Joe is on defense more, if you get what I’m saying the dynamic is more balanced.
Joe Rory and Mal, argued for almost 30 mins about what double/triple or nothing meant because of a bet....
@gamefantasticcuz right very different. I'm seeing all the time whenever Ish says this ppl taking it way too literally he's speaking more in general overall. Like when ish get into that real estate and construction bag. The old cast would need a guest for a conversation like that. Even ice with the nerdy tech, stuff they would need a guest for that. What I feel he's saying is the things Rory and Mal but moreso Mal could give in depth conversation about ie music industry shit, street shit etc. Those type of topics speak to a smaller demo. The corporate experience, parenting experience, etc those things are relatable to more people
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Why y’all still be talking bout Rory and mal
I fuck wit Ish bro like fr fr I be hurt when he say shit I don’t agree wit cause he such a thorough nigga
Ishrealytes / The Ishsues
No lie. When I first heard Rory and Mal left I stopped watching for a while. But not I’m back a ice and ish are great co host. I will say though Joe need to let other people talk more
It was a music podcast with r&m. Joe was getting tired of music so needed to make the switch to more life and culture. Ish be making it sound like the new crew changing the pod game.
And I’m not just caping for R&M, they shit not hitting like the old days either. Joe should of tried to keep both pod crews and 2nd mic/ host one of them. 😢
Ish better watch joe gone start hating soon Lmaooo and it’s kinda crazy how ish on a press run ever since Cesar been scamming 😭😭😭😭😭
Joe wants this. Ish is bigging Joe up everywhere he goes. He has a publicist now...that's why he's going all over the place
Too late.
Sounds like he found his master.
Can't get pass your boss trying to link with your ex of 9yrs..
Every comment of yours to Ish is like this. Who’s master is who?
I didn’t get into JBP until Ish and Ice joined. Pod was too immature for my liking before they got there
Library
Honestly Joe wasn't gonna let Rory and Mal scream back on him now he's gotten older realize I can do the same things I did with the old cast and the pod would go off the rails when he got on his rant wave that Eminem rant was annoying as hell, but he's gotten better and learned he's running out of friends to pod with also 😂😂😂
I think Ish is stretching the truth.
Joe, Rory & Mal definitely had serious, real talk conversations dispersed through the hilarious, comedic stretches.
I would like someone to do a video essay on a Before vs. Now of the JBP.
Like the JBP has gone through like 5-6 iterations when you really think of it.
Joe is definitely a pioneer & unique talent but I feel like he definitely stole from them, played with the numbers etc.
Rory,Mal, and Rory played out. It was getting so predictable and stale. I'm glad Joe changed it up. The content is much better now. Joe has the results no matter what you want to say about him.
Talk your stuff
Ice and Ish came in on a podcast that was already successful thanks to Rory and Mal...period!!!
The old pod is cemented as probably the greatest podcast ever this new iteration is good but nothing to close to the chemistry of the last pod
The old pod is the best pod ever. I knew it would one day end.. I still can't remember them having a bad episode of the old era..
I remember looking in the comments and people would celebrate when they would stand up to joe on some versus vibe. The music orientation was great, but that chemistry always had some weird tension that made it seem fake.
Corey Holcolmb is the Father of the video podcast for any urban podder. Joe is the one that leveled it up and broke through to the top .
Joe Budden TV
5150 nation
I'll raise you a combat jack or even a tariq nasheed.
Combat Jack. RIP the OG Pod Father.
Technically Joe has been vlogging since the mid to late 2000’s & the Podding since 2015
LET The GuEst TALK 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Ish keep saying that him and Ice brought something different to the show but I don't agree. Rory had a corporate job and he was college educated too. The topics aren't any more serious now than they were before
Ish and Ice will shoot rory and mal all kinda bail but them two never have anything positive to say about them. And when they do it's only to make it appear as though they're not hating so it comes off as fake to a person that can really read that type of shyt
If they made a path TOGETHER... Rory and Mal deserve their flowers as well
Just in case anyone's reading before watching, Ish NEVRR said Joe made Rory and Mal". That clickbait picture editing shows a lack of integrity and I can only assume it is to compensate for the lack of quality of this podcast. I will absolutely not support a black podcast that uses deception to manipulate its views at the expense of its own guests. 👎🏽
Nobody asks Ish & Ice about Joe's history of public breakups/bad business.
I don’t agree with ish at as far them never talking about anything serious and them never arguing with Joe. The dynamic changed but nahhhh
Rory did work in corporate and Ish doesnt take care of his kid allegedly 😂
So can Rory say the “n-word” since he’s always referred to as a “n-word”??
Where did this come from?
Ish and Ice >>>> rory and mal
Hell no
Esso start the interview off trying compare they not the same my nigga ice & ish are older & better
@@EARiot that’s true too
Definitely not better
@@EARiot Yeah without Flip coming I would been gone Ish and Ice were boring and predictable.....
@1:40 “didn’t never work in corporate America”? With that grammar, neither did he lol. I digress…Rory worked at music labels. Why is he saying neither had corporate experience?
Ish ass don't even be at the Pod now, I'm sure for the two days a week you come in for 6-8 hours you make more than the person working 5-7 days 8 hours a day. Don't Gas it my G
Mann … this guy ish, i fucks with him but let’s be serious, podcasting is a not physical labor job, you getting paid to talk for a 2 days out the week, I get it, it’s long hours but come on ish