Put me in the Brilliant camp. I honestly think with few tweaks this movie could release today and get an incredibly warm critical reappraisal. Then again I also think the same thing about Superman Returns so…
I love this movie, because in school there were only two movies played when it rained during recess and we had to stay in the auditorium. The two movies were this and the scooby doo movie with monsters, a spider lady, and a red shirted shaggy.
I have a very love-hate relationship with this movie. When I was younger, I was like, a HUGE Hulk fan so I really wanted to watch this, and in hindsight, the idea of a character-study of Bruce and his past trauma and how it links to the Hulk is a super brilliant idea. It's mostly just brought down by some of the weird directing choices and admittedly really lackluster acting. I can even excuse the iffy cgi since the way Hulk moves in this movie is super well-animated. So yeah, not a very good movie, but I'd be lying if I said that I really wanted (and still do) to love it.
I had the novelization of this movie for some reason and used to read it all the time, but never got around to watching it until a year or so go. I thought it was... well, not good, but charming in certain aspects and even when it was bad, it was definitely entertaining.
I actually liked the movie mostly because it probably gave us the Dr.. Banner that is closest to the comic book version. I admit I sometimes find it annoying when people say things like: "Of the (three) live action versions of Dr. Banner- Eric Bana, Edward Norton, and Mark Ruffalo- which do you like the most?" My response is: Of the (four) live action versions of Dr. banner, the one I like the most is Bill Bixby.
I have a soft spot for this movie, not because of the movie itself, but because marketed with it was the PS2 game Hulk: Ultimate Destruction which was so much fun to play.
I know this movie is a hot mess, but I have a certain affection for it. The "sins of the fathers" theme remain damn compelling no matter how much iffy CGI is in this movie, and while it may be a mess, it is memorable in the way the MCU's "The Incredible Hulk" isn't. "The Incredible Hulk" disappears from my memory almost as soon as the credits roll; it's the equivalent of a carnival ride, where you get on it, enjoy the dips and turns and whatnot, get off it and say, "Well that was fun," before immediately moving onto the next ride, leaving you with only the vaguest of memories regarding it.
Well, you already know how I feel about Fant4stic (in that it's my favorite). So you will interested to know that, for the most part, I dislike every other non-MCU Marvel movie. The exceptions being the first two Blade films, most of the X-men and X-men adjacent films (there are only a handful I adamantly dislike), and the Andrew Garfield Spider-Man films. So unfortunately, as much as I've seen Daredevil, Hulk, the first two Fantastic Four movies (not counting the old one because nobody counts that), the Ghost Rider films, or even Hulk... I don't like them. But I still rewatch them regularly for nostalgia. Oh, and the Raimi Spider-Man trilogy? Spider-Man 2 is okay, I guess. The others can stop. Existing, I mean. I will not elaborate on any of my opinions. Edit: Also, the Daredevil spin-off/sequel Elektra exists. I have seen it. It's not as good as Daredevil. There's also Man-Thing, which I have not had the chance of seeing. Edit 2: 29:30 No. No. No. No. No. No.
Followup on my earlier comment- I actually really like that there’s no clear delineation between Bruce and Hulk in this movie. The idea that Hulk is “just Bruce” but in a state of manic rage strikes me as a really interesting and unique take. I saw a video long ago that compared this film’s take on Hulk to bipolar disorder, and it’s a reading I’ve never been able to let go of since. Obviously it’s interesting when Hulk is a literal other personality but I also like the idea that Hulk is closer to the physical manifestation of an “episode”.
Interesting. Idk how in love I am with the idea of the hulk being a representation of an actual mental illness but this is a cool perspective nonetheless
Buddy Bruce banner has DID. Also if the hulk is just an “episode” whag about Bruce’s other alters? What would grey hulk, devil hulk, green scar, etc… be?R Also just read two face if you want a character with BPD, ‘face the face’ is a really good comic of his that focuses more on his psychology
I'm really getting tired of people referring to movies as good or bad like they have to be one or the other. Why can't a movie just be a movie. No one has ever seen a good movie, no one's ever seen a bad movie, you've only ever seen a movie. At this point, referring to movies (or any other art for that matter) as good or bad just feels like a form of authoritarianism.
Hulk good.
Hulk is the strongest there is
Hulk… complex
Agreed
I actually enjoyed the She Hulk show more than this movie. Idk what that says about me lol
now watch the cinematic masterpiece Super Mario Bros. (1993)
6:14 the guardians of the galaxy refrance was hilarious 😂
Put me in the Brilliant camp. I honestly think with few tweaks this movie could release today and get an incredibly warm critical reappraisal. Then again I also think the same thing about Superman Returns so…
Valid!
I love this movie, because in school there were only two movies played when it rained during recess and we had to stay in the auditorium.
The two movies were this and the scooby doo movie with monsters, a spider lady, and a red shirted shaggy.
The shaggy variant!!
Hulk more like Colk
Real
I have a very love-hate relationship with this movie. When I was younger, I was like, a HUGE Hulk fan so I really wanted to watch this, and in hindsight, the idea of a character-study of Bruce and his past trauma and how it links to the Hulk is a super brilliant idea. It's mostly just brought down by some of the weird directing choices and admittedly really lackluster acting. I can even excuse the iffy cgi since the way Hulk moves in this movie is super well-animated.
So yeah, not a very good movie, but I'd be lying if I said that I really wanted (and still do) to love it.
4:18 Do you know that the man next to him is Lou Ferrigno who played Hulk (Not Bruce, specificallyh hulking Hulk) from 1977 TO 1982?
I had the novelization of this movie for some reason and used to read it all the time, but never got around to watching it until a year or so go. I thought it was... well, not good, but charming in certain aspects and even when it was bad, it was definitely entertaining.
I actually liked the movie mostly because it probably gave us the Dr.. Banner that is closest to the comic book version. I admit I sometimes find it annoying when people say things like: "Of the (three) live action versions of Dr. Banner- Eric Bana, Edward Norton, and Mark Ruffalo- which do you like the most?" My response is: Of the (four) live action versions of Dr. banner, the one I like the most is Bill Bixby.
Good video. I don’t agree with all you said but still good video.
I broadly prefer Hulk 2003 over how the MCU handled Hulk in later parts of the franchise.
I hope when you get to Daredevil you cover Trial of the Incredible Hulk, the 89 Daredevil-Hulk crossover
I have a soft spot for this movie, not because of the movie itself, but because marketed with it was the PS2 game Hulk: Ultimate Destruction which was so much fun to play.
I know this movie is a hot mess, but I have a certain affection for it. The "sins of the fathers" theme remain damn compelling no matter how much iffy CGI is in this movie, and while it may be a mess, it is memorable in the way the MCU's "The Incredible Hulk" isn't. "The Incredible Hulk" disappears from my memory almost as soon as the credits roll; it's the equivalent of a carnival ride, where you get on it, enjoy the dips and turns and whatnot, get off it and say, "Well that was fun," before immediately moving onto the next ride, leaving you with only the vaguest of memories regarding it.
Well, you already know how I feel about Fant4stic (in that it's my favorite). So you will interested to know that, for the most part, I dislike every other non-MCU Marvel movie. The exceptions being the first two Blade films, most of the X-men and X-men adjacent films (there are only a handful I adamantly dislike), and the Andrew Garfield Spider-Man films. So unfortunately, as much as I've seen Daredevil, Hulk, the first two Fantastic Four movies (not counting the old one because nobody counts that), the Ghost Rider films, or even Hulk... I don't like them. But I still rewatch them regularly for nostalgia.
Oh, and the Raimi Spider-Man trilogy? Spider-Man 2 is okay, I guess. The others can stop. Existing, I mean. I will not elaborate on any of my opinions.
Edit: Also, the Daredevil spin-off/sequel Elektra exists. I have seen it. It's not as good as Daredevil. There's also Man-Thing, which I have not had the chance of seeing.
Edit 2: 29:30 No. No. No. No. No.
No.
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Yes.
Followup on my earlier comment- I actually really like that there’s no clear delineation between Bruce and Hulk in this movie. The idea that Hulk is “just Bruce” but in a state of manic rage strikes me as a really interesting and unique take. I saw a video long ago that compared this film’s take on Hulk to bipolar disorder, and it’s a reading I’ve never been able to let go of since. Obviously it’s interesting when Hulk is a literal other personality but I also like the idea that Hulk is closer to the physical manifestation of an “episode”.
Interesting. Idk how in love I am with the idea of the hulk being a representation of an actual mental illness but this is a cool perspective nonetheless
@@TSDTalks22I’d definitely say it’s allegorical before it’s literal in the text, if that helps.
Buddy Bruce banner has DID. Also if the hulk is just an “episode” whag about Bruce’s other alters? What would grey hulk, devil hulk, green scar, etc… be?R
Also just read two face if you want a character with BPD, ‘face the face’ is a really good comic of his that focuses more on his psychology
I'm really getting tired of people referring to movies as good or bad like they have to be one or the other. Why can't a movie just be a movie. No one has ever seen a good movie, no one's ever seen a bad movie, you've only ever seen a movie. At this point, referring to movies (or any other art for that matter) as good or bad just feels like a form of authoritarianism.
Spirit Of Vengeance and this are masterpieces compared to the homogenised AI ass slops disney puts out