Chauncey Billups' SAVAGE Take On '04 Pistons vs Warriors Debate!
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- Chauncey Billups came on to Sheed and Tyler to talk about his current role in the NBA as the Trail Blazers head coach. He also weighs in on Draymond Green vs Rasheed Wallace beef over who would win between the 2004 Pistons and 2015/2017 Warriors.
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Bonzi always hating on the Pistons lol he still mad they traded his ass😂
04 pistons would’ve been an even bigger dynasty if they wouldn’t have messed up with that number two draft pick
Facts
They weren't a dynasty!!! They won 1 ring!!! Stop it buddy!!! LeBron ended them boys reign 😂😂😂
They would have never gotten Sheed if they did that
@@machobandzsavage281They were there they went to 2 Finals and a lot of conference finals
Melo wouldn’t be who we know him as back then, so 👎🏾
Ben Wallace would have stopped all of Draymond's antics.
Dray would be ejected every game within 5 minutes because of actual physicality.
Golden state esposws him as a horrific ft shooter. He wouldn’t be useful. He’s be pulled out of the paint on defense and a liability on offense.
These guys beat Lakers with Kobe and Shaq... Never forget that.
And lost the spurs .. what's your point ?
@brianerisca6822 rules changed, and team changed, and sheed left Horry wide open.
And Gary Payton and Karl Malone
😂 The old Lakers team that tried to build a super team. Remember kobe and Shaq started it
@@brianerisca6822spurs were great. Spurs would of waxed them warriors to. Soft era today
Rasheed is so underrated, no one on that team can guard him
No one on that team can guard Durant or curry or klay
@@Infinitefuture6and curry would get eaten up by Chauncey, big time. Prince stopped Kobe, I'm sure he'd do alright against KD. Play ain't doing squat offensively after having to chase rip through a million screens every game. Rasheed is the x factor because he would eat draymond up, big time
@@joshlewis575Chauncey ain’t doing shit with Steph. Tayshaun would get 30 on his head. Too small for KD. Klay would win the matchup vs Rip. Sheed would win the Draymond matchup but it wouldn’t be enough. Ben Wallace is the X Factor here
@@omare6452that's why he said he wouldn't have fun guarding steph coach would've put rip on him and Chauncey would guard klay Rasheed can guard kd and he can defend guards like he said they can switch and before you comment watch they're games
@@kaygriffin984 I watched them play live bruh. Chauncey is giving up 6 inches of height to Klay. & KD would give Rasheed 40 easily. I sat lower level at games in the early 2000s. Not floor seats but great seats. They couldn’t beat 2017 Warriors in a series but wouldn’t get swept
Does everyone forget they had Okur off the bench?
And 6th man of the year Corless Williamson. And two of the best on ball defenders in Mike James/Lindsey Hunter. And a steady Elden Campbell who post and shoot that mid range. Great bench.
That pistons team was deep af but warriors had an amazing bench too
@@Travdustneither can put up with them screens
Yeah people forget that Okur started for that team half of the year before the Rasheed Wallace trade.
Okur was a beast he was a all star with utah when he left Detroit
I think Bonzi just be saying stuff to troll Sheed
lol 100%
Every group got that one ass hole, aka that one Skip Bayless, aka that one Rashad Mccants
consider the source..... what was Wells' career "highlight"...?
Plus They forgot about Prince
Thank you!
Thank you for this comment, dude could guard 1-3 back then so 1-4 or 1-5 on some teams or line ups today.
@@Red-ul9ukand scored 9 points a game
For good reason
@@prestonstrong7040 Back on a team that used to constantly keep people under 85 points constantly. Multiple under 75 points games. People also forget his play style translates better to today than some others because of how mobile and inversely was on defense as well as offense. They just shot less.
This podcast should be just as big as Gil’s Arena
Hell naw it’s boring af
far superior
@@Atribecalledsuccessbut you here watching this boring shit pal..
@@Kelthagreat97 I stopped half way ma’am
People like foolishness
Big Shot Chauncey Finals MVP!!!!!
Chauncey know damn well ain’t no coach giving him the green light for no 15 3pt attempts 😂😂😂
Dude thinks he’s curry
The capping is nasty in this clip
You guys must not know Chauncey 🤣🤣🤣. He was was clutch..steph is not and has never been. Pistons would definitely beat that Warriors team
@@mareq323 Steph not clutch? Man stop it. COUNTLESS games where he’s made big shots. Chauncey slow ass wouldn’t be able to keep up wit Steph wtf😂😂😂 and u must not no Chauncey cuz when in the fucc was he ever a major threat from deep🤦🏽♂️
That old head delusion
At least Chauncey in being reasonable. The 2017 Warriors just have too many weapons. It doesn't matter how great your defense is.
The 2018 Warriors had the same team but the Rockets took them to 7 games with CP3 leading and very good defense even though their main player (Harden) played like hot garbage. Once CP3 got hurt, it was over and they couldn't buy just 1 3pt-er in game 7. Also, I think the Spurs were beating the 2017 Warriors by 20+ in the 1st game until Kawhi got hurt. They were not un-beatable.
Sunday with kd didn't do sht lmaooo
@@jtremaine23 That Rockets team would have beaten the Pistons too
@@jtremaine23 James Harden
@@Steve_R418Not with Harden leading and the team shooting 0-27 from 3 lol
Warriors Steph and Klay plus with Durant 7 FT raining shots from anywhere, Great defense by Dray, 6’6 Iggy high IQ , 6’7 PG Livingston Hitting Middies, 6’11 270 IBS Physical Zaza with 7FT Athletic Mcgee. Dubs in 5
Dont forget Livingston off the bench
@@JoeScott22 I know I said “Livingston hitting those middies”
Not only Shaun Livingston Leandro Barbosa don't forget Andrew Bogut and David West
@@David-qp4jq Definitely the early Dubs teams had Size
@@JoeScott22 I said Livingston hitting Middies
If it’s played in the old rules. The warriors can get away with even more harder and more moving screens and get more open 3s but people never talk about that
That Detroit team that won win 04’ was legendary don’t get me wrong, but if they were so great why didn’t they win multiple titles? We’re talking about the Warriors with KD vs that pistons team. Warriors are arguably considered the greatest team of all time. So if those Pistons players say they could best that warriors team doesn’t that make them the greatest team of all time? Not even close. You can’t compare two teams when one team hasn’t even won multiple titles. As far as IQ? Steph Dray KD Dwest and Andre, Sdot? Yeah I’ll take the warriors.
Very good point
What is Chauncey talking about letting Sheed shoot 10+ threes a game. The man was a career 32% shooter from deep. You'd be handing the Warriors the game. 🤣
2015 and 2022 can be a debate but 2016-2019 Warriors will destroy 04 Pistons. It doesn't matter what rules.
You must be 20.
@@NeighborTom been watchin nba since 1995
@@NeighborTomBot
@@MrSilus2000 butt!
The only time warriors really looked beatable were against tough defense like 18 rockets before cp3 got hurt, and 2016 Cavaliers. This pistons team was the toughest defensive team I've ever seen. It would be a great series and Billups would have to be big against curry on offense. Warriors also wouldn't be able to abuse the death lineup because all 5 pistons could guard the perimeter.
2004 Detroit Pistons would have a difficult time going up against back 2 back champions the original Detroit Pistons the Bad Boys
facts as well, the bad boys were deeper than even the 04 pistons
Nope! 04 pistons is far better than the bad boy pistons. It's a game between real defensive players against slow bully kids. 04 pistons anytime!
@@paulvicentevcurimao5596 naw zeke takes it personal
bro any team after like 2000 would have a difficult time going up against any team from the 90s or before. Teams played D back then, and they actually could score. any team nowadays would be waxed by teams back then. Pistons, spurs, and pacers in the mid 2000s were only teams that resembled old school
These old heads need to quit living the good ole days. Sheed saying they were more talented is crazy 😂.
Young lebron alone destroyed them😂
Its crazy for players from 2004 to say they have better skillset than players in 2024. No one on that Pistons team is stopping KD, mans dropping 40pts easyyy, and i watched Pistons beat Lakers in 2004. 2017-2019 warriors is a different type of animal!
Yeah saying their more skilled was a wild statement and just proves these guys are extremely biased and their opinion shouldn’t be taken as fact
Smh it’s sickening. They only won one damn ring talking like this smh
04 Pistons would bring it any era
Tayshawn Prince would've been able to put some effective defensive pressure on KD. Prince was a defensive cyborg with those long arms, the quickness, and the height.
😂😂😂😂😂
Facts!! Ppl sleep on Tayshaun Prince. He started the chase down block shot back in the 2000's..he shut down prime tmac in the playoffs! His length definitely would of bothered Kevin Durant
I mean Tayshaun played against KD. KD averaged 26 ppg
@@Steve_R418right!
KD is 6’11…stop it
This aint triangle, this is GSW motion offense with the 3 of the best shooters to touch a basketball. 😂 Yall tripping.
You’re a kid. You don’t know real basketball
@@allenparedes6132 "get off my lawn!"
He's telling the truth, Curry, Thompson, Green, Livingston, Basbosa, Bogut, Barnes, Igy is too much for Pistons. I love Pistons but they will not, there's a reason why Curry's Warriors has more title.
3 of the best shooter ? Kd not no top 3 shooter all time u just talking 🤡
@NoMask23 I said "3 of the best shooters" , not "the 3 best shooters" reading, comprehend. 🤡
Everyone talking ish about the warriors until them 3s start raining down
Facts😂
can't rain down threes when you're getting locked up by real defense.
@nocturne87 oh, please. Indiana did and the warriors have 3 of the best shooters on 1 team. Rip wasnt a great defender. Billups can't guard curry. Prince can't do anything with kd. 😆
How many more dpoy steph gotta light up before you guys stop diminishing him 😆
Yall smoking if you think that Pistons team is beating the 17 Warriors. Not only do they have a superior offense, but they were also an elite defense. Steph is cooking every single person they put to guard him, Klay is outshooting Rip, KD is destroying Prince, and the bench is taking over. What yall scored in a game, GS is scoring by halftime. Yall gas that one chip up like the 08 Boston Celtics team. If they were so dominant, yall should have won more.
& Sheed keep saying they was small
If I'm not mistaken Shaun Livingston
Iggy
Javale & David West were all on that team
Steph prime Klay
KD
Detroit getting smacked on
@@ChuckaVsTheWorld They had more taller players than the Pistons did.
Steph and Chauncy are the same height
Klay is taller than Rip
KD is taller than Prince
Sheed is taller than Dray
Zaza/McGhee are taller than Ben
Iggy is 6'6 and Livingston is 6'7. The Pistons are getting dog walked.
@@remnant8898 badly lmfao
You sound crazy Detroit defense was the best all time they not shooting on them like you think 😂
@@jaybrick8973 u smoking that same bullshit sheed on...
If they was so elite as u claim y they only got that 1 title? Greatest all time u must b talmbout the bad boys pistons lmfao... Gsw in 5 foh
The pistons saying they scored so few points bc it's how the league was isnt accurate. They were 18th in the league in offense. They only had one guy who shot 50% or better, corliss. The warriors as a team shot 50%. There's no planet, solar system, universe, multiverse, alternate reality in which the pistons come close to winning.
Unless they're playing with the 04 rules. Then in this very universe they kill em. Draymond would go into full on meltdown with big Ben getting physical with him. I can see the constant crying on every possession now
@joshlewis575 they also played when the rules changed the following year and shot about the same low percentage as a team. The 04 rules doesn't stop the blowout that's going to occur. It takes the game from being 110-80 to 104 to 74. The pistons couldn't score lol
@@edwardcoward1062yea the more I thought about it even the 15 warriors I got them winning in 6 maybe 5. The reason curry struggled in 16 is because of kyrie. You can’t guard kyrie and go get 30 on the other end that’s too hard. Billups and Hamilton aren’t volume scorers or shooters so curry won’t have to play defense like that. And I don’t anticipate Detroit posting up Billups 10 to 20 times a game tryna get curry in foul trouble. Stuck with. Also putting prince on him won’t because curry can just guard him offense and not guard him.
The 04 pistons been living off that bs title for years smh they didn't beat the lakers the lakers beat themselves they had no team chemistry shaq n kobe was tryin to kill each other etc hints why they never won shit else
But they made it to the finals with that same team chemistry🤷🏿♂️
A title isn’t bs.
@@derellbillings3960 and lost to a team that wasn't half as good as that lakers team
@killaseason82 those spurs teams with Parker ginobili and Timmy aren't just some random scrub team. Isn't that the argument as to why LeBron got waxed by the same core ? And they had that chip too if sheed here doesn't leave Robert fucking Horry wide open.
@@joshlewis575 shaq n kobe n the spurs team won multiple. How many did that fluke pistons team win? I'll wait
The KD Warriors was the greatest team in NBA history. It was a cheat code with no answer.
The 04 pistons lost to many role players after the 04 season.
facts, plus Larry Brown was gone after 05, and they changed rules again in 05 to stop this brand of basketball further.
Facts @@smokescreenOG
So basically C. B just said if we can't foul them we probably couldn't beat them. After he said that all I hear is pride. 🤷🏾♂️
Wells bringing up him beating billups when Billups wasnt even starting had me rolling
Shout out to Tyler but , why is it the sheer and Tyler show? It should be sheed and bonzi WITH Tyler
unfortunately once the NCAA season picks up we won't have Bonzi on as much since he's on the Georgia Tech staff
@@SheedandTyler he working wit Mighty Mouse?????
Mane the warriors are cooking the pistons even without kd
Are they though? Curry, klay, iggy, dray, and bogut vs Chauncey, rip, prince, sheed and Ben. I'm taking that 04 pistons line up to win that. Especially if they're playing by the 04 defensive rules
KD their only hope
What nobody talks about is that while the older teams couldn't have been as physical now, the stepback woulda been travelling 7 days a week back then. Today's players woulda been crying like babies in the 80's and 90's.
You do understand players adapt plus these teams today are fast. Old heads would be mad because they can't foul the entire time.
@@TheTaekwon3 If you noticed in these past playoffs, more defense was played and allowed so teams were hitting around 90 points sometimes (which is rare in this era). I hadn't seen so many under 100 point scores in a while. I kept telling people, players don't look as good when you let the other team be more physical.
A step back move is not a travel just like a euro step isn’t a travel 😂 older player just wasn’t creative , iverson did one crossover and everybody lost their mjnds 😂
@@curtiszyrthe globetrotters have been doing kyries "handles" for 70 years now. How creative these new guys are😂😂😂😂😂
@@curtiszyr I get what you're saying but you're a bit off. A stepback is not a travel NOW. You have to know basketball to understand, so let me help you. You are given two steps after you pick up your dribble because the intent of the rule was to compensate for forward motion, not to just move two steps in any direction. The league adapted the new, looser definition because it is more exciting. The same thing applies in a foul going from a foul to a flagrant to a flagrant 1/2/3, etc. Back when it started players were playing bleeding and it was just a foul...sometimes.
Best to learn the history of a subject before you speak on it, no disrespect intended.
The Pistons won one ring and came up short everytime after that...But they talk like they were a dynasty 😂
A blown defensive rotation from winning back to back, and 6 straight eastern conference finals.
6 straight and one ring to show for it..Lesser talented teams beat the Pistons.....But yea sure they'll beat 2017 dubs😂
@@warrencook8738 the 04 pistons was the best team, they lost key role players after that year and eventually Ben Wallace left too. It's not like it was the same team, magically getting worse or just losing year after year.
I don't know how the 2017 warriors can beat about beating anyone, they ruined the game of basketball, the NBA, and then teaming up was the softest shit I've ever seen.
Dummy, they lost to eventual champions - the 2005 Spurs and the 2006 Heat. There's no shame in being 2nd place against the toughest competition. Plus they went to ECF consecutive years while losing key players year after year, most especially Ben.
No they don’t, they talk about thier championship every once in a while . But the Celtics team of Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett be talking like they a dynasty 😂
It’s amazing I lived to see both of these teams play at their prime. And being from Michigan I’m biased af, but I’m tryna tell yall them 04 boys was a different breed.
Pistons had Larry Brown too. That matters
Larry Brown was a-GREAT-coach too,LOVED that guy.
Warriors got Kerr df
@mercisaint2506 lol Kerr is so overrated.
@@davidporter671
Lol how??? Actually give a good reason besides what you have seen in the internet
Big Shot made the biggest point. They were different without Big Ben. They no longer were the best 5 alive. With Ben Wallace and the addition of Carmelo that group's story is bigger in history.
Nobody will fking go toe to toe with 04 Ben Wallace nuff said.
Bonzi is an elite level troll😂😂😂
I loved this convo !
People they beat Kobe and Shaq in their prime convincingly
No one else on that team was good. They were old.
Spurs beat Kobe and Shaq twice
And got waxed by the spurs
@@Evroyalfound yo ass again like I said that spurs team would beat warriors as well ur a fucking child u don’t know ball
Colorado + Shaq vs Kobe beef + Karl Malone’s injury = Detroit Championship
Sheed would average a healthy 40 on Draymond with today's rules
Absolutely not both would be watching from the locker room. Two guys know most for technical fouls and ejections. Not to mention sheed scored over 39 one time in his whole career that being a whole 42. 😂 he could barely get 35. No way in hell they beat kd's warriors even Chauncey knows that.
We not gonna talk about how Bron beat y’all single handed 🤣🤣🤣
Here's the deal, when you play defense the way they played defense, your legs start to give out. So all them shots start to be just that much, and it's a different game. Those low scoring games were a joy to watch.
Dude was on Brons nuts whole conversation lol
Exactly!
Some of these old school black players look at Steph and Clay and immediately think "soft....i can't lose to someone soft impossible".
1 ring 😂
Nobody outside of Detroit believes this lol
That 04’ Pistons team kept a Prime Kobe Bryant from scoring above average. They kept Kobe at 22 PPG.
Cause a prime Kobe didn't have a team.
@@BenGettinit204 I didn't hear Kobe make any excuses when he lost in 04'. You laker fans are something else. You can lose but great players can't be averaging 22PPG in any series.
@@peat381low8he didn’t complain because he’s not Lebron still doesn’t mean him not having a team isn’t facts
@@dloftan5539 Kobe averaged 35ppg for an entire season. You guys will do anything to avoid giving credit to a defensive Pistons team holding Kobe to 22PPG. That takes a special type of talent.
@@peat381low8 I'm GSW S30 ALL DAY
You’ll never see a older dude ,, say that these younger dudes are better😂😂 . Even though they are
"Y'all couldn't score"
Neither could our opponents
Durant enters the chat
If you played by today’s rules, Ben Wallace would look like a juggernaut in that series. He would’ve averaged 5 steals a game.
sheed "we shut you down"
Talking about being one of the greatest teams of all time in the NBA? You weren't even the greatest team of all time in Detroit. 🤣
They talking like they won more then ONE chip 😂😂😂
Everybody thinks they could've beat the Warriors.
I think they forget how demoralizing it was to play the warriors. I remember watching entire teams giving up because they were down 15-20 by the second half, knowing the game was gonna end with them down 30.
The 15-16 warriors dominated the league that year. Coaches gave up, players gave up, the warriors took hearts that year. The pistons wouldn't be any different. Not enough shooting
2017 warriors never losing… let’s be real please
As a fan that saw that Piston team - THAT was an extremely balanced and talented team !
With front line of Sheed , Ben Wallace and Taeshaun Prince - with Chauncey and Rip Hamilton at guards.... that's a tough match up for anybody.
They're delusional as hell y'all aren't beating any of the warriors teams
Who the hell is that in between Sheed and Bonzi?
They would have got the asses blown off the court by the warriors.
Steph changed basketball culture forever in terms of making it okay to shoot 3's at a high volume. I would LOVE to see a world where Chauncey had that kind of freedom to jack it up. Obviously no one will ever know "who would win" because those games can never be played.
So I don't know who would win, but I am confident Draymond Green would have a really hard time with Rasheed Wallace. Rasheed would get into another gear whenever he got mad and you better believe Draymond would make him mad.
What no one talks about with that 04 team, was just how deep they were. Deepest bench in the league with a bench unit that could match up with most squads starting 5
I remember when I was 8years old, and my 2nd grade teacher would come in and write on the board, each of the pistons name who did the best every game that year in the finals…. Then I remember watching the parade😭😭🫶. It’s crazy cus I was born in Nashville but my mom side of the family way from Detroit and that’s where we lived that year. Pistons needa come back to the light
The 04 Pistons are athletic to switch
Sad ending on this one talking about Big Ben leaving for Chicago. Let's take a moment of silence for the dynasty they would have had if only they drafted Mello instead of Darko.
Nah. If they would have drafted melo, the defense would have went south. Plus they never would of traded for sheed who a better player
Don’t forget Bonzi was drafted by the a Detroit Pistons. ! He wished he won a championship with his home drafted team
Right lol
LMAO Pistons have a higher basketball IQ than the Dubs..... FOH
They did tho
@@alexanderadonyae7937 They did not , though. Nobody on that team has a better hoop IQ than Steph or Dray ... period.
@@RK-ry1vzBig Ben and Rasheed alone. Those are the post defenders. What about Tayshaun Prince? He'd make Klay and KD work for EVERY basket
Not to mention RIP off the screens and Chauncey's play on both sides of the court.
@@raybrooks1717 That is a lie. Chauncey is overrated. He averaged what... 1 steal and he is lockdown or a two way threat averaging maybe 17-18 pts a game??? That's Wiggins type numbers. And Rip off a screen wouldn't do a thing either with his little 19 pts a game. I think you forgot how low of a scoring squad they had. Nobody on that team can guard Steph or KD and stay with Klay all game long and there is no way they'd even score enough points to stop the Dubs. It's a great "what if" for Detroit fans but that is hilarious.
Ben Wallace would have shut Draymond's B.S down as soon as the game started 😂
People stop changing the narrative by using another year team.
The teams are 04 Pistons vs 2017 Warriors...
Not 2007 Pistons, not 2019 nor 2022 Warriors
Keep the team and year the same please, otherwise it is changing the narrative
Please trying to say Lebron beat the Pistons, which is false because the 04 Piston won the Championship which mean NOBODY BEAT THEM.
Also Lebron was a Rookie in 2004 and did NOT make the playoffs
How about the 05 Pistons almost losing to the Heat with a 2nd yr D Wade and losing in 6 the following year against a 3rd yr Wade? Note that the free throw issue for Wade was only during the Finals, none during the ECF.
@julio.t.rethey still won tho💯yes.ii.22
I said that to Sheed. I said that that Detroit team will not let Steph run around like that. Different era
You Brothers have some of the greatest ball content. thankh you for all yall did and do!!!
Well what happen in 05 when they lost to the spurs Duncan only averaged 20 points a game and y’all still lost to them in game one they scored 69 points how in the hell would they keep up with the warriors come on Chauncey stop it
This is why I’m upset Sheed isn’t in 2K
And Tayshaun
Draymond missed free throw....
"BALL DON'T LIE!!!!!....THAT BALL DON'T LIE!!!"
These old heads talkin like theyre on level of great dynasty like lakers, bulls, etc. that one chip is nice tho but the warriors can beat yo ass by 100. saying yall got a higher iq than the warriors. the 2017-18 warriors bench is better than your championship team startin lineup. 😂😂😂
These guys Trippen 😂😂
Bonzi looks like Cederic
Chauncey know they couldn't beat that 2017 & 2018 team😂
Chauncey can’t do nothing with Steph, prime Klay over RIP, Tayshaun Prince would’ve been an X factor , Sheed and Draymond would’ve been an hilarious matchup, both ejected by halftime 😂
The Pistons was to physical.. They beat my Lakers with Kobe and Shaq
They couldnt beat the Cavs when Lebron was a kid
I hate conversations like this, think about it one player left and the entire team fell apart where young lebron dominated this detroit team yet they can go against anyone, mehn please.
Pistons not beating the Bucks teams that won a championship wit Giannis
Pistons team was so big and tough. They had Okur, Corliss, Ben, Sheed, Prince. I think they even had Campbell at one point.
Man Billups is capping worse than the Game!!! The Pistons won 1 ring in that era!!! They didn't have the size or fire power to beat Western Conference teams. LeBron finished them off. They weren't a dynasty. Dude talking like they were dominating for a 4,5 year stretch. The Warriors would crush them.
You sound silly
They went to 5 straight east finals show respect 💯
Bron would've did that to Ben Wallace too💯
Hell nah
This is comical. The Pre KD Warriors averaged 70 wins in two years. The Piston team that won the title only had 54 wins and did not even win their division. The Dubs were up 3-1 with two blowout wins as every one knows when they just hit a bad streak.
04 pistons would've given the warriors hell. Just an overall great team. Rip Hamilton would've tired Klay out with his off all play.
The 04 Pistons wouldn't have made it out of the ECF if so many Pacers weren't playing hurt. They definitely wouldn't have made it past Indiana the next year if not for that brawl. Pacers blew their chance at back-to-back rings.
i got the the og bad boys beating those dub teams, even with kd on them...
No they wouldn't....😂 be real
Straight facts
@@5lime9ordoprobably not but it really depends on the officiating tho. Sheed and Ben were excellent screen setters and I’m not sure I’ve ever seen Draymond set a legal screen. Literally just call moving screens and the Warriors probably lose.
@@icemancometh1188 f all that , yall bringing up every thing but the problem... who's stopping Steph and Kd ? RIP himself runs all day on offense , you expect him to do that 7 games ? Prince can be long or what ever. Doesn't matter , KDs getting his shot
@@5lime9ordo way more offensive talent for sure, 17 Warriors probably win in most scenarios. Not every scenario tho, that’s all I’m saying.
A tough one is a very nice way of saying KD warriors would’ve beat the brakes off yall. 😂
I wanna see this or 04 pistons vs 10 Lakers . I I still think in another universe Kobe get revenge on the pistons lol
With the league's help 😂
they lose vs pisons just becasue of kobe
Hell naw lol
@bubot17 Exactly the league changed the rules to stop the Pistons dynasty and help their overrated "Superstars" ROFL
Going from Ben Wallace to Jason Maxiell is a major fall-off. Granted, Big Ben didn't "shut down" Shaq, yet he contained him, do you really think Him vs Tayshaun Prince wouldn't make it hard for KD??
Nice talk. The real question who was a better defensive team, them or the '19 Raptors
take it EAASY!! Black Mamba & Shaq was busy fighting with each other vs fighting against Pistons!!!
You guys talk like you’re that good.
You won 1 championship.
I cheers for you guys to get that rematch with spurs in 07 when you’re the #1 seed.
That’s still hurts to this day