Sigma 70-200 2.8 DG DN vs Tamron 70-180 2.8 G2 REVIEW: Who Did It BETTER? (vs Sony 70-200 2.8 GM II)
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This is a Review and comparison between the Sigma 70-200 2.8 DG DN for Sony E Mount vs the Tamron 70-180 2.8 G2. I also showcase Sony's 70-200 2.8 GM II. Which lens is the right one for you?
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Which would you go with???
Tamron 35-150 f2-2.8 😅 because that’s what I went with after looking at some of those zoom ranges for my sony a7iii.
Got sigma :)
SiGMA
Tamron
hands down SIGMA
Even as a photographer, it's so refreshing to see a report from a real colleague instead of the smart-ass influencers that are everywhere. I can confirm everything you say in the video 100%.
@@SebastianWorldwidereach out to wherever you bought it from
SIGMA... for now. 🙂
I would prefer to see a test of these lenses on a camera that will be a real target at this price scale. If you have an A1 or A9 III, you don't use Sigma or Tamron lenses (in most cases). Therefore, a more objective test of these glasses would be a combination with A7 III or A 7 IV, because these are the target users. Of course, I understand the approach, a camera for professionals will compensate for the optical deficiencies of cheaper cameras and show what is best in these lenses, but the question is whether it would be better to do these tests in the configuration in which they will be used by probably 75-85 percent of users and show what they will get (or not) by entering any of these systems.
Well, not necessarily. A1 is much higher resolution than A7 series, so you can test lens optical performance better. On lower resolution there may not be much difference in sharpness, but if you use higher resolution camera, you may notice it. And that's important thing to know.
@@Stasiek_Zabojca If you need high res, the A7cr is 60mp, and is less than half the price of the A1. So if your goal is high resolution for lens testing, it's certainly more affordable. You could buy a GM lens or two, for the price difference. Jared has the A1, because he shoots sports, but if you don't NEED high burst rates, either A7cr or A7RV give higher res, and better AF, for less money.
I mean I have a a9 and a7r4 and I still went with the sigma over the Sony. I can still shoot 15fps on the A9 and also 10fps at 61mpx
I have the Tamrron 17-28 and the 70-180 which fit most of my zoom needs. Rather than getting the center lens of the trinity, I got a fast prime and zoom with my feet. I also have the EF Sigma 70-200 which I use with a speed booster on for my MFT cameras which makes it a 90-256 F1.8 FF equivalent. On my GH5s that thing can practically record video in the dark.
One of the reasons I got the Tamron 100-400 over the Sigma version was the noticeable superiority of its zoom ring. So smooth. The overall build quality was also better in my opinion. Here, the build quality is obviously inferior. But that matters less than usability and feel. Along with Sigma's cropped off zoom ring, I would go for the Tamron.
I've decided to go with the Tamron lens. The total weight, including the hood and tripod collar, is around 600 grams. This becomes a significant factor after a full day of shooting or traveling. While it's true that the Sigma offers slightly better quality, I personally don't find it worth the extra weight.
Canon shooter here. Although, I'm not in the market for these lenses, I really did learn some things. Maybe down the road, Canon will open the RF mount to Sigma and/or Tamron. I might be looking at a 70-200 f/2.8 at that point. You've given me some things to think about. Thanks, Jared!
Thanks for this! Just bought an A7IV and considering my lens options 😅
20:50 i think it may be best for someone to start with a "vacation lens". Something that can go wide and zoom. This allows a cheaper entry and lets the shooter figure out how they want to capture life around them. ❤️🙂
Love your videos!
Greg In the reverse prone position?
Great Comparison of lenses!
Hi Jared, A very useful review that said I wonder how the Lumix S Pro F 2.8 70-200mm stacks up against these two lenses.I wait a very long time for the Sigma 70-200 to come out I could wait no longer so I bought the Lumix not cheap.I saw your review at the time it came out and it seemed favourable.Please let me know what you think now. Many thanks AL
I have the Tamron 70-180 G1, and as a Sony Aps-c shooter it's the perfect size for the those cameras and have given me great results
Honestly, I would appreciate any of these. I'm really hoping to one day get one for my Nikon but that day isn't in the foreseeable future. But you never know where the photography journey will take you. Did you guys know Fro shoots raw?
Dan finally finished this video!! (From photo news fix a few weeks ago (?) Jared said it)
I have the 28-75 Tamron, and one of the main point for me (besides cost) is weight and portability. I guess I would make that same tradeoff when looking into this range.
You had me at Bernie. I'm going to get the older tamron 70-180 since I'm just starting off with enthusiast shooting. I got an A6400 a few years ago and I've tucked it into storage because well, I didn't feel confident taking it out... but this year is the year of change.
The best lens is the one you have with you. The Tamron only takes up 1/3 of a Peak Design 6L bag. You can fit it, a full-frame body, and two compact primes in the Peak Design 6L bag. With either the Sigma or the Sony, you're basically looking at a backpack. For a lot of applications (particularly street/urban landscape), you want to be lower-profile. And hell, who wants to carry a humungous backpack, when you can carry what you need in a smaller, less conspicuous bag.
That's why I got it over the Sony - size and weight.
Also, I have a Sony 200 - 600 if I want to do serious telephoto. 🤷
would these lenses be better for than the 35-150mm 2-2.8. I'm planning on doing a bunch of mountain bike photography in the rainforest?
How does the Sigma perform in video mode with AF-C on, while pulling zoom? Does it mantain focus on the subject, or it struggles to keep it in focus?
Got the sigma preordered a few weeks back. I rented the 70-200 version 2 from Sony before to test and while the focus and the weight are amazing, it’s hard to justify almost 2x price point here in Canada land for the Sony given how close sigma comes to it for A7iv.
Also good point on the Sony keeping focus when zooming, it’s not so much the focusing motors that are the issue but rather Sony being a parafocal lens which you alluded to. Meaning focus doesn’t change as you zoom, while with sigma that’s not the case and there will deviations in focus throughout the zoom range. I think I recall Sony making their version 2 more video capable, and the parafocal characteristic is one of the features.
I think that the problem of the non-parfocal lens was mostly visible on the Tamron lens and the Sigma did a much better job. To me it looks like the Sigma is parfocal or at least close to it, but the Tamron definitely not. As I shoot video a lot, for me this puts the Tamron out of the equation.
i don't think gm is parfocal all the way. if i recall correctly it's only parfocal from 135 to 200 the rest is fast af motors
@@sergeyzakharov7326Interesting…
I love the aperture rings!
I got the Tamron G2 it works great for my needs. If need that extra crop, I use clear image zoom.
Have you got issues with zoom in zoom out ?
New firmware from Sigma for this lens:
Ver.02 2024.04.18
・The operational noise during video recording has been reduced.
・Compatibility with continuous shooting of up to approximately 120 frames per second has been added for the focus modes (AF-S/DMF/MF) on Sony α9 III cameras.
Picked up the sigma yesterday. Zoom ring is indeed quirky, but photo quality is terrific. (And I shot my kid’s soccer game on the A7IV and got some real keepers)
I recently bought the brand new Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 DG DN OS | Sport Sony FE mount, but unfortunately it keeps making relatively audible noises when it is connected to the camera and the camera is on.
The noise is comparable to when an external hard drive is connected to a laptop and you click through the files. In other words, like when an external hard drive is running. The noises are similar. If I turn off the image stabilisation switch on the lens, the noise is just the same. Even if I don't press the camera's shutter release button halfway, the noises are audible. They are permanently audible, regardless of whether I am taking photos.
Can someone please give me some feedback as to whether this is normal with this lens. I would hate to have bought a defective lens for so much money. Many thanks in advance.
Greg is clearly doing some isometric ab exercises while doing photography work, and it’s something called a stretched-hamstring half-crunch hold. You can try it yourself. You’re welcome.
The fact that I could get the Tamron refurbished/used for the 900 ballpark feels like a no-brainer. The significantly lighter weight will have my back thanking me too.
As a canon camera body owner, I buy Sigma's because the focus and zoom turn in the same direction as Canon lenses
I had zero issues with my GM!, it was razor sharp, didn't miss. But, it was too heavy. the GMII is a no brainer. But it used if you have to.
I'm curious what you think about the Sony 70-200 f4 vs. the Sigma or Tamron. Obviously you loose the extra light but you gain the 4 focusing motors and macro (if you are into that)
It's not the same lens category... You don't compare sport motorcycle with something designed for daily commute.
I bought a Tamron 18-300 f3.5-6.3, and while its not nearly as good, it is helping me work on basic fundamentals before committing to some expensive glass.
Going to buy the Tamron 35-150 becasue I have the Sigma 150-600 sports. Then just need to pick up 16-35 😅
I’d like to know how the sigma would work adapted to Nikon Z.
Sigma has an amazing 16-28 2.8 native for E mount :)
Greg's shooting position is called the "rising monopod"
I had the tamron 70-180 g1. The amount of dust inside of it was horrible. Now I have got 35-150 since 4 months and it already collecting dust inside. I love the results though. It's super versatile and it almost replaced my favorite sigma 105mm in my bag. Maybe I should conduct the wind tunnel test to get rid of the dust 😂?
I have the Tamron 70-180 g1 as well and while it is my favorite lens, I notice it collects dust quite a bit as well. I also have tamrons 28-200 and 17-28, and they aren't immune either. It is definitely concerning to me, and causes extra work in post processing, but I have yet to decide if its worth replacing them. Sigmas build quality is so much better ( I have their 100-400 DG DN) but they are also so much larger and heavier.
Are you shooting in the Sahara desert ?
I have G1 too and working in extreme weather like dust, sand, dirt, rain… and nothing is inside
@@meow8743 don't know how to explain it. I have recently discovered some minor dust particles inside of my sony 200-600 also. 😔
The Tamron is also available for Nikon, just rebadged as the Nikon Z 70-180.
I currently have the Tamron 35-150. the goal is to do this as a profession. so I guess I will make a business case and either go for the sony, or for the tamron
Greg was using the "teepee rest" method to balance that beast of a lens.
More like a "peepee rest" 😂
Did you mention the zoom and focus direction?
I'm considering the sigma but been trying to find a comparison between the sony gm1 and the sigma. I've been swaying more towards the sigma but having never tried the Sony didn't know what to do.
Hello sir i have one Question I don't know which calculation is correct in terms of
aps f 2.66×1.5=f 3.99 &
full frame
f4 -1.5= 2.5 😅 which is Right ?😅
Tbh if you don’t own any of the native 70-200 yet, the best bang for your buck would be the tamron’s 70-180 (short of 20mm), but if you really need that internal zoom go for the sigma.
"Every millimeter counts."
That's what she said.
Nice nod to Barry Horowitz. Thanks for the video.
Isn’t there a lens hood replacement for the sigma lens?
its actually a custom switch overall on the tamron lens, not a VR specific switch.
I think that pose is called 'The Compensator'
It's all about what you want to do with it... I'm not a pro photographer but just want some amazing photos so the native Sony glass with their billion dollar price tag is out of the window. For me I just looked at my needs. For me I take 90% of my pictures while travelling and if I'm in some tropical country I don't like the idea of carrying an extra 800gr around my neck in the case of the midrange and long-range zoom combo of the sigma compared to the tamron. I prefer to stay slightly more discreet so I have an A7C and the compactness of the tamron lenses fits more with that discreet aesthetic.
The reclined shooting position is called the "Plunkett position." I recognized it immediately. Of course, with a long-barreled rifle, the shooter can rest the firearm on a thigh, shin, or knee for better support. Don't know how stable this is for photography, compared to how other shooting positions might work, in particular the kneeling supported position.
Just bought into Sony system (A7IV) partly for 3rd party lens options, and I'm very happy with Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 and 85mm f/1.4. Was looking at Sigma 70-200, but now leaning towards Sony 70-200 II if I can get a good condition used for $2,000 or less. Although Jared doesn't like teleconverters, I think the Sony with a 1.4 TC would be a decent option for soccer. I rented the Sony 100-400 f/4.5-5.6 but didn't like the zoom ring feel (not smooth), and it is also expensive.
The Sony 70-200 II is perfect, it's so good i can't think of a way Sony can improve it in the future unless they make it f2.
A TC only helps if the lens is sharper than the megapixels on your sensor can show. As for the A7IV this is the case because the lens has a sharpness of little over 50mp. I own a 1.4 TC and the 70-200 II and it works great together and has really good image quality. Not as sharp as without the TC but definitly sharper if you would crop your image to 280mm and you got more background blur with the TC. Can highly recommend!
@@Whatsgoodmydude2222 not saying I would want one but I know the canon 28-70 is popular and that thing is a tank of a lens. Sony will have to do something to make 70-200II owners like me upgrade. It's hard to think how they can make it better other than wider or longer 70-240 maybe? who knows
Thanks for this vid. I hate to be negative about the Sigma but I have to say the design choices are baffling. They've got what's intended to be a non-removable tripod collar (though thankfully as you mentioned it does look like it can be unscrewed) and the lens hood, why? Plus good construction is nice, but for me the weight saving matters more. If I shot Sony I'd probably just opt for the Tamron, lighter and less faffing around with it lol.
How useful is a focus limiter switch on the lens? Can this function be done in camera?
It's lens only for sony. I really find it useful! It decreases hunting close up
You need lens with a switch, can't do it in camera settings. It really does a lot. If you set limiter on lenses to focus only on far, it will find focus even ~twice as fast, because it won't be looking for anything at close distance.
Additionally for a majority of the lineup, Sports indicates actual weather sealing. Sigma Contemporary and Art lenses are technically not sealed.
The contemporary line has a mount gasket, but no internal seals. All of the art line for mirrorless have internal seals for dust and moisture resistance, just like the sport line. The art and sport lines are built to professional grade, where as the contemporary line is geared towards hobbyists and enthusiasts. Primes and zooms under 200mm are art and anything that hits 200mm and longer are sport.
so Sigma has a 70-200 2.8 sport lens so not sure why you would say that. per my training with sigma, sport indicates weather sealing and art series are not weather sealed. you'll see in the actual marketing/tech specs the use of "weather resistant" not weather sealed for Art lenses. @@leagueop2399
Finally!!
I am struggling to decide because I can't afford the Sony FE 70-200mm f 2.8 GM Mark II BUT I want to do professional work, mainly dog action/outdoors/play portraits and get into local sports as well, and I would like to get the Sony a9 Mark I second hand but then I lose the 20 FPS and the other one I would prefer would be the Sony a7C II for the new dedicated AF chip but then I'm stuck at 10 FPS and I have found from my past experience that it's just not enough to get the right moment. I had the Tamron 70-180mm f 2.8 G1 and I ABSOLUTLY LOVED THAT LENS so ... stick with 10 FPS and Tamy or 15 FPS with Tamy and hope that I can one day get a used Sony FE 70-200mm GM II?
Refurb Z8 is $3200 + etz21 + 70-200 gm ii (greatest zoom ever) = Best of All Worlds
I will stick with my 70-200 / 2,8 GM I :) because I bought it preowned for good money :) and with latest FW update, it focuses correctly :)
But I guess I will end in bed with Tamron because of zoom ring. And I am Sigma fanboy with 14-24 and 24-70 and 105 Macro and 14/1,4 :)
Tamron's smaller size makes it a very attractive buy, but the Sigma lineup in general seems better for me. I also already own a Sigma lens, so might as well stick with it. The only things i dislike are the lens hood covering the zoom ring and the unremovable lens collar.
I have the Tamron 17-28 f2.8 but instead of the 28-75 f2.8 from Tamron Id rather their 35-150 f2-2.8. I also own the Sony 70-300 G OSS f4.5-5.6 meaning if I got the Tamron 35-150 there would be some over lapping until I get the Sony 200-600 and trade in my 70-300.
Greg: forgets tripod at home
Also Greg: that’s ok, I’m something of a tripod myself
Sigma’s zoom rings turning the opposite direction to Sony’s zoom rings is enough to make me not use their zooms. Almost all of my lenses are Sony (except the Tamron 35-150) and having to adjust my muscle memory for zoom direction absolutely drives me insane every time I try to use a Sigma zoom.
Good point
Wierd as my other Tamron zoom (28-70 and 17-28) zoom backwards to Sony.
Really sucks, enough to make sure I don't buy a backwards again. But 70-200 is my bread and butter, 85/20 1.8.
Hi @@froknowsphoto I'm starting with videography and I want to record my teams soccer matches with a Sony ZV E-10, would you recommend the Tamron 70-180mm 2.8f G2 over the Sony FE 70-200mm f/2.8 GM OSS (SEL70200GM.SYX) lense, regarding the auto focus, (+ mainting autofocus while zooming in and out) etc.
😂🎉 but you saving over 1000 dollars 🎉😂
A Canon user who switches to Sony will definitely love it.
Went with the Tamron 17-28 and 70-180 G1. Most likely will get the 28-75, but if the dust issue is resolved on the Sigma 24-70, I may go with that.
that issue was resolved long ago though? the ones with serial numbers starting with "56" and later no longer have that problem
Do also keep the Sigma 16-28 F2.8 and Sigma 28-70 F2.8 for your consideration.
Go with the Tamron. Smaller and lighter and the filters all match.
I have the same 2 lenses, but went with primes for the middle range figuring that is more of a portrait range and if I am shooting portraits I would rather have a F1.4 lens.
I was excited for the sigma, because ever since coming from Canon, I just can’t get used to the “backwards” focus ring of my Sony 70-200 2.8 version 1. My other zooms are Sigma, and zoom the same as canon. I think Sigma dropped the ball on this one though.
I think the more important decision to make is do you want castle greyskull or snake mountain.
Sony 70-200 f2.8 G2 on my a1, or my a7R IV, all the time.
most sports shooters run their 70-200 on a shoulder strap with the connector on the tripod foot
So whilst i agree that having it removable on the sigma would be useful, i'd rather have one than none at all like the Tamron
And yeah the screw style hood is stupid....
Size and weight matters, thats why the Tamron wins. Using as Zooms: Sony 12-24/4, Tamron 20-40/2.8, 28-75/2.8, 70-180/2.8 and Sigma 100-400 DG DN....
Referees walking into the frame are a fact of sports photography life. I have too many ref butt shots from football... with basketball the ref will sometimes apologize and I just laugh and say "Hey, it's part of the game -- we both have a job and yours requires you to go where you need to go, it's all good!" That said, the "ref butt" shots are kinda rare in the final count of what I shoot.
Greg is shooting in what is called the “lazy boy” style haha
Steven: Party at the new place while Fro is in Africa? I just traded the Tammy for the SONY GM ii. IQ seemed comparable, but AF with GMii is much better. Tammy missing 20 mm is no issue. Take a step closer. I also have shot a Canon 70-200 L adapted to SONY. Great IQ, but heavy and AF lacking. SONY is pricey, but AF/IQ/TC compatible/fps/build quality etc are compelling.
I love the Tamron 👏😍
Prefer internal zoom ring! :)
As a professional photographer currently using Nikon, I am considering switiching to Sony. I was seriously considering the Tamron 35-150mm f/2-2.8 but not many people bring this lens up when discussing other lenses. Is there something wrong with it? There will be frames limitation, unfortunately and might need an additional longer lenses for shooting sports.
I have the Tamron 35-150 for my Sony A7RV & A7IV. It’s a workhorse for my portrait shoots. I know they just released a Nikon z mount version that’s getting stellar reviews. I don’t know if you’re fully integrated to mirrorless or do you still shoot Nikon DSLR? They just updated the firmware on the 35-150 to improve sports shooting, but haven’t tried it yet. I’m capped at 10 fps on my bodies.
@@rickt.8866 I have a mix of DSRL and Z lenses but easily upgradable.
I am tempted to buy the Z8, but I would prefer a smaller body. Even though the Z8 has been a great improvement from previous Nikon cameras, it still feels like Nikon is always a step back in terms of AF (photos and videos) and innovation.
On the other hand, the only camera that piqued my interest is the A9III but the price tag...
I have the Tamron 35-150 with the A7RV (10fps camera limit) - it’s the greatest! Many pro’s use it for weddings, events, portraits, etc. and rave about it, so it’s totally worth owning. I have used it for family, landscapes, some indoor and small field sports situations, but I typically use the Tamron 50-400 for outdoor & large field sports. It’s a variable aperture lens, though. The 35-150 could very well have been used in this video (from an aperture and focus motor perspective) but I think Jared was trying to stick to the exact same minimum focal length of 70mm across the three lenses he was comparing. Sigma and Sony don’t have a lens to directly compare to the 35-150.
I have a z8 with this 35-150 tamron and it is fantastic! Very nice bokeh and compression! I am in love with it!
@@sokkerjeff Thank you for your reply. It's a pity that using such a capable camera, even though not known for its high-speed shooting, there is a 10fps camera limit.
I wonder if owning the 35-150mm might still be short for certain situations. Just thinking about what would the other long-range lens be, whether a 200-600mm or perhaps a 200mm or 300mm fixed lens...
Right.. the 70-200GMii just beast... 1 of the best GM Sony ever created.. it just has all.. except price but if price is no issue.. no reason not to get it.
Got mine😊
That is called the upskirt shooting style
As an enthusiast, I have decided to go with sigma 14-24 and with tamron 70-180 G1. Sigma is a higher quality lens and sigma produces higher quality photos. Tamron proved to be almost unusable for me beyond 150mm. Chromatic aberration, problems with focusing. This time I'm gonna go with Sigma 70-200.
Never got the memo that I was suppose to pick all tamron or all sigma lenses, damn
i think u can take off the tripod collar foot on the sigma lens by unscrewing the bottom bits with an allen key, not the easiest but could be done.
7:04
For the size and mobility, being a Sigma, gonna have to lean towards Tamron.
The pose is “The Laying King”
It’s just a shame that the limit of 15fps is imposed by Sony and not a limitation to what the Sigma and Tamron could do. Sony doesn’t want the consumer to have the choice of a much closer performing lens at a considerably lower price. With the ability of third-party lens manufacturers to often produce glass as good, (or at least so close that you won’t normally be able to tell the difference) Sony has to give more reason to justify spending nearly twice as much. Other camera makers don’t impose limitations like this and instead work to produce lenses that are perceptibly better in various aspects to justify the higher cost for their lenses. Sony has decided to hamstring the competition by imposing certain limits. Jared should clearly say the limitation is imposed by Sony and not leave viewers to believe it’s Sigma or Tamron that can’t achieve X level of performance. I know he knows this so why not say why the limit is there?
Yes Canon certainly doesn't impose limitations like this for their RF mount.
Yep. It is kind of unfair competition. Moreover, I suggest Sony has influence on Sigma and Tamron lens release policy, why do you think there were almost none good 50mm lenses for a while? Shitty 50 1.8, bulky and pricy Zeiss 50 1.4, slow macro 50 2.8, shitty but small 50 2.5 G and super expensive and heavy 50 1.2? and then BOOM and we have 50 1.4 GM and 50 1.4 Art? I think it is kind of agreement for to do not let 3rd party lens manufactures to take all sour from Sony cake. Because when there is no good alternative, people are buying 50 1.2. The same with Sigma 70-200 f/2.8. They released it AFTER Sony
😂@@mattdp846
what was Speed doing in the basketball game :D
Sigma also has a nice 16-28 f2.8. Having the 16-28, 24-70 and now the new 70-200 f2.8 is fantastic.
I recently bought the brand new Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 DG DN OS | Sport Sony FE mount, but unfortunately it keeps making relatively audible noises when it is connected to the camera and the camera is on.
The noise is comparable to when an external hard drive is connected to a laptop and you click through the files. In other words, like when an external hard drive is running. The noises are similar. If I turn off the image stabilisation switch on the lens, the noise is just the same. Even if I don't press the camera's shutter release button halfway, the noises are audible. They are permanently audible, regardless of whether I am taking photos.
Can someone please give me some feedback as to whether this is normal with this lens. I would hate to have bought a defective lens for so much money. Many thanks in advance.
The new Sigma says it is actually 1,805g* which makes it actually insane.. I was going to jump all over it, but that seems crazy to carry for sports or weddings.
Is it better to get the tamron 28-75 + 70-180 or the 35-150?
Up to you. You lose out on 37mm in total, but you gain an f2 aperture on the wide end and the capability of having the zoom range in a single lens.
Great Review Jared but in the End, I much prefer the new Sony G 70-200 F4 macro Lens for the size and versatility
I wish Sony would make a g master 35-150.
Greg is obviously using the Graveyard shooting position
"and the final thing that I photographed was a kid out in the park because that's something that you would use a lens like this for" my brother in christ I spit up my coffee all over myself laughing why'd you have to hit me with that
I have a Nikon N7 ii are they both available for the Z
There is the Nikon rebranded 70-180. Both can be adapted using Megadap etz
In my mind, there’s only one circumstance that I think someone should use a 3rd party lense on an A9 or A1. And that’s if Sony does not make that lense such as the Sigma 35mm f1.2 or Tamron 35-150 f2-2.8. Otherwise, If you’re going to pay for 20/30/120 fps you should buy the lenses to get you the 20/30/120 fps or look at another body.
What if you do landscapes wildlife? You get a 200-600mm Sony with full fps for wildlife but you use sharp 3rd party when you go shoot landscapes. Just a thought..
I would say it depends on your use case. Say someone has an A1 or A9III and 95% of the time they do not need a 70-200m, it might not be financially justifiable in that case then to spend extra for the Sony for the 5% of the time they use it.
@@craigmantle5362 That’s honestly a very fair scenario that I hadn’t thought of. Tbh, I was talking more about sports, wildlife and other fast action, but sure! Absolutely, if you’re in a situation where you would be using the camera for both purposes, it makes total sense.
@@AmaraARW tbch, I can’t think of a single photographer who would use an A9 or A1 and not need or use a 70-200 outside of 5% of the time 🤔 maybe a super dedicated wildlife photographer, I guess? Regardless, if you spend the 6000+ on either of these bodies, you should also be ready to spend the money on the lenses to get the most out of those bodies. And now that I think about it, if you have a lens you only need 5% of the time, you should probably just rent it instead of buying it flat out.
@@craigmantle5362 If you are doing landscapes and wildlife I would probably go with the A7RV for higher resolution, and the ability to switch to APS-C in that higher resolution to get a little more reach for wildlife. That is unless you are shooting really fast motion wildlife, in which case the 10fps and rolling shutter could be an issue, but I shoot those same things and it hasn't been an issue. I also can't afford the Sony telephoto lenses, so I am not going to pay for more fps on a more expensive camera knowing I can't get those rates without buying a $12,000 sony lens.
The 'L-MOUNT ALLIANCE' never gets old lol
What i really want to know is if the g2 tamron 70-180 is significantly better than the g1
G2 100% better. Better af, has image stabilization for low light or video. Sharper just overall much better
@Cydu06 I have the g1 and felt I couldn't justify reinvesting in the same length lens from the same company. I know the Sony 70-200 GM 2 compared to the G1 is miles better due to the back focusing issue. I just hoped it wouldn't be that much better. Plus, that Tamron 35- 150 2 -2.8 makes the 70-180 seem obsolete but is costly....Its the G.A.S
Is the dust issues fixed on the G2?
Ima call his shooting position the Burt Reynolds
Tamron, all the way! The best thing is from their smallest lens to their 50-400 they all use the same filter size!
I'll just stick with the 70-180 orginal, I haven't found something it doesn't do well.
Also, is the child the same kid that you shot at the beach a few years ago? She was still a baby then I think.
Wonder if they’re on canon rf? No? What a shame.
Why is it that third party lens manufacturers always make black lenses? I prefer black, but you know when you see a white first-party lens, that it's the "professional" model. Does Sony have some sort of agreement that third-party lenses can't be white? It sounds dumb, but it would seem to me that the perception of their sports lenses would be higher if they matched the color of Sony's high end lenses.
Tamron all the way for the quality combined with the weight. I hate heavy lenses.
I am sad that I waited so long for the Sigma. Just no way I could buy it. Big, heavy, screw on hood, zoom on the end, non removable tripod mount... etc. I would sacrifice the 20mm and get the Tamron.
I was watching another comparison and he said that because the sigma has so much focus breathing, the 20mm is actually a lot less. They magnify almost the same. I think it was Dustin Abbott. Watch that video and you'll see.